D-backs Pitcher’s Stirrups Lead to On-Air Hosiery Discussion

Good morning! Hope everyone had a good weekend, especially those of you who were observing Orthodox Easter.

Now then: Phil mentioned in yesterday’s Ticker that Diamondbacks reliever Noé Ramirez has been wearing some pretty sweet stirrups lately. As it happens, Ramirez’s hosiery stylings were the subject of some chatter between Mets broadcasters Gary Cohen and Ron Darling during the top of the sixth inning of Saturday night’s Mets/D-backs game. Here’s how it unfolded:

Gary Cohen: Noé Ramirez going with the traditional stirrups.

Ron Darling: I saw that last night. [At this point the camera obligingly focuses on Ramirez’s shins.]

Cohen: The Sean Gilmartin look. [This is a fairly obscure reference to journeyman pitcher Sean Gilmartin, who last pitched for the Mets in 2017. He did wear stirrups, but much lower-cut than Ramirez’s. — PL]

Darling [not understanding the difference between knitting and painting]: Yeah, and they really are stirrups because we’ve seen guys that have socks that are kind of painted to look like the stirrups.

Cohen [trying but failing to recall the term “two-in-one”]: Well, remember when the socks came out — because guys started wearing the stirrups high, so that you didn’t see any of the top of the stirrup, you only saw the line along the side of the white.

Darling [uttering his two favorite words]: That’s right.

Cohen: And then they started making the socks that just have the lines on the side.

Darling [again giving his blessing to what Cohen just said]: You’re right. So the stirrup — and I used to wear stirrups — the lower part goes in the front, the higher part goes in the back. And then there’s a couple of different ways to keep them up. You can fold them under the pant. Some guys use tape. So a lot of different ways to do it. It looks like Ramirez probably uses tape, because you can see the bottom of his pants over the sock. There was a whole way that older players would teach you how to put those socks up correctly.

Cohen: Of course, the sanitary sock came into being in the early days of baseball, because the colored socks had dye in it [sic], which was poisonous. So if you got spiked, the dye could go into your skin and you could, you know, you could get serious illness or die. So they put the sanitary socks into the mix to keep the dye from getting into your leg. But the whole thing about the stirrup being low in the front, high in the back, that’s one of the first things they teach you in Little League. [Camera now shows D-backs second baseman Katel Marte, who’s going high-cuffed with red socks.]

Darling [inaccurately]: And then you could be like Katel Marte — I think he goes with the stirrups, but all the way down.

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And that was that. Despite a few bits of awkward phrasing (Cohen twice said “lines” when he really meant stripes, and he said the dye could get into a player’s “skin,” when the real problem was blood poisoning), that was some pretty good on-air stirrup banter. Good to see my favorite uni element being the subject of some chatter!

One thing: Was everyone really taught in Little League to wear the smaller stirrup opening in the front? I don’t think I was — I just figured it out by watching big-leaguers. What about you folks?

Meanwhile, speaking of Ramirez: He’s played for three teams since making his MLB debut in 2015 — the Red Sox, Angels, and D-backs — and has always worn stirrups, but until now he’d almost always gone with the low-cut variety, or what I think of as “Why even bother?” stirrups. I mean, it’s better than nothing, but not by much:

The only exception I could find, at least prior to the last few days, was a 2018 throwback game when he was with the Angels. For that game, he went with high-cut stirrups:

Aside from that, he always wore low-cuts, even for his first five appearances of this season, until switching to high-cuts on April 21. He’s now gone three consecutive appearances with the high-cuts. I strongly approve of this move — Ramirez is our latest Uni Watch hosiery hero!

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On a serious note: Kayla Vucinich, daughter of longtime A’s equipment manager Steve Vucinich, announced yesterday that her dad suffered a heart attack on Saturday but was recovering in the hospital and doing well. I spoke to someone else close to the family yesterday afternoon and was told that Vuc should be okay. Phew!

Vuc, who’s been a good friend to Uni Watch for many years (and was the subject of a lengthy Uni Watch interview last summer), had just retired at the end of spring training. Clearly, being away from the game does not agree with him! That said, I hope he’ll be back home soon and will get to enjoy the next chapter in his life. Vuc, if you’re reading this, hang in there — big hugs from Uni Watch to you, buddy.

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And just like that … they’re gone: We awoke on Saturday morning to find that the dove family had left the nest. We knew this would happen at some point, but we were hoping we might get to witness the babies’ first flight. Dang.

I grew very emotionally attached to the doves over the past month, and it’s sad not to have them as part of our extended family anymore. Empty nest syndrome indeed.

According to what we’ve read, the same two adult doves, if left to their own devices, will return to this nest and have two or three more broods. That might be fun, but we’ve decided that we’d like the feeder to be a feeder for all the other birds again, so we’ve taken it down for now and will put it back up sometime next month, by which time we figure the doves will have found a new nesting spot.

Thanks for all the interest in the dove saga. It’s been fun sharing it with you.

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The Ticker
By Jamie Rathjen

Baseball News: Yankees P Nestor Cortés ended up with the rare dirty jersey on Saturday when he dove to make a putout (from @maybeifollowyou). … We mentioned a few months ago that the Triple-A Worcester Red Sox were planning to wear jerseys with “WooSox” written in American Sign Language for a promotion this season. That promotion is coming this Friday (thanks, Phil). … The Single-A Vancouver Canadians wore throwbacks yesterday (from Wade Heidt). … After Texas baseball assistant coach Sean Allen was hit by a foul ball last week, the team borrowed a football helmet for him but ended up not needing it, so players used it for home run celebrations instead (from Kary Klismet). … Oklahoma wore their home whites for a road game at Kansas (from Derek House). … Angels DH Shohei Ohtani wore red stirrups over red sanitaries yesterday (from @dikpose). …

Football News: Two FCS teams received championship rings this weekend: North Dakota State for winning the division’s championship and South Carolina State for becoming the HBCU national champion (from Kary Klismet).

Hockey News: The Golden Knights announced a jersey ad yesterday, but what is probably more interesting to many of you is that the article introducing it uses the team’s gold alternate jersey to model it, not the grey primary, which could indicate that the team plans to redesignate the gold design as its home jersey next season (from multiple readers). … Ducks players all wore retiring captain Ryan Getzlaf’s No. 15 in warm-ups yesterday (from Wade Heidt). … The Canadiens went without board ads as part of their Guy Lafleur tribute yesterday (from @ColHapablap).

Basketball News: A YouTube video posted yesterday shows some Spurs players wearing silver masks in 1997 to protect against facial injuries (from Mike Chamernik). … The protester who disrupted the Timberwolves’ game on Saturday was wearing a lookalike NBA referee jersey that was numbered 5.3, which reader Dan Kennedy partially got a picture of. … The trailer for the new Apple TV+ documentary on Magic Johnson shows him wearing the Lakers’ mismatched purple uniforms from the ’80s (from Kary Klismet).

Soccer News: In the Bundesliga yesterday, both Hertha BSC and VfB Stuttgart wore their second kits apparently to avoid a color clash, which was a bit odd because there wouldn’t have been a clash between Hertha’s first kit, which is white and blue, and Stuttgart’s second, which is the red one shown there (from Ed Żelaski). … Two teams playing each other in England’s Women’s Super League, Birmingham City and Brighton and Hove Albion, wore warm-up shirts supporting Amnesty International’s Football Welcomes Refugees campaign. … In the NWSL, Washington Spirit coach Kris Ward wore a T-shirt saying “Invest in women. Pay women. Hire women” for Saturday’s game on national TV. He explained afterwards it represented a push for equality. … Meanwhile, the Spirit apparently are revealing the design of their 2021 championship rings today. … Chile’s Universidad Católica’s men’s team wore an 85th anniversary shirt yesterday (from Kary Klismet). … Olympique Lyonnais/Iceland midfielder Sara Björk Gunnarsdóttir criticized last week the choice of Manchester City’s Academy Stadium as one of the venues for the women’s Euro 2022 in England. City’s women’s team does play there but it’s much smaller than most of the other venues being used.

Grab Bag: W Series driver Alice Powell has a new helmet for this season. … In English field hockey, the Women’s Premier Division’s Loughbourough Students added a sleeve patch for a charity founded in memory of former reserve team coach Andy Gibson. … These two are from Kary Klismet: Adidas apparently tweaked its logo recently. … Here are a design site’s choices for the worst new logos of 2022 so far.

37 comments to D-backs Pitcher’s Stirrups Lead to On-Air Hosiery Discussion

  • R. Scott Rogers | April 25, 2022 at 8:28 am |

    I don’t recall any stirrups instruction, from coaches or players, in youth baseball. What I do remember is merciless mocking if you were seen to have gotten it wrong. But I didn’t have an older brother, which I suspect would have made a difference.

  • Martin Hick | April 25, 2022 at 9:07 am |

    Congratulations on the doves.

    • Phil Hecken | April 25, 2022 at 10:03 am |

      Dream, if you can, a courtyard
      An ocean of violets in bloom

      • mike 2 | April 25, 2022 at 10:39 am |

        Animals strike curious poses

      • Martin Hick | April 25, 2022 at 11:15 am |

        “So this is what it sounds like… when the doves cry.”
        -Milhouse Van Houten (AKA Thrillhouse)

  • Wade Heidt | April 25, 2022 at 10:06 am |

    If the Golden Knights are switching to the gold uniforms for their primary home uniform, one must assume that they will start wearing their dark grey pants with their white road uniforms instead of the black pants. Black eliminated as a trim colour for the team.

  • Obbs | April 25, 2022 at 10:08 am |

    Lol at Darling’s “That’s right”. Whenever he appears on MLB Network or does a radio interview he has three favorite words: “That being said “

    • Brian E | April 25, 2022 at 10:19 am |

      I’m not specifically calling out you or Paul, but sometimes I think people forget how difficult it is to have impromptu conversations that are broadcast to millions of people, some of whom are exceedingly excited to find your specific language tick.

  • Jason | April 25, 2022 at 10:37 am |

    KC Connect jerseys and shirts released this morning. UGH

    https://www.mlbshop.com/kansas-city-royals/city-connect/t-14998665+c-5625118552+z-97-3992401768?ab={wt-static_graphic}{pt-tlp}{al-aspot}{ct-CityConnect_kan}

    • walter | April 25, 2022 at 12:48 pm |

      I like ’em fine. Also glad to see the Royals unretiring the “R” insignia.

      • Jason | April 25, 2022 at 1:20 pm |

        I do like the R

    • Al | April 25, 2022 at 1:32 pm |

      The replica jerseys without the front number are a huge improvement over the on-field version.

  • ChrisH | April 25, 2022 at 11:06 am |

    Wishing a Speedy Recovery to Steve Vucinich!

  • Ingmar | April 25, 2022 at 11:25 am |

    That KC CC is really underwhelming. I like the KC logo, even with that weirdly placed crown in it, and I like the R made out of streams, but a blue pullover with just that logo is a very lazy design and looks totally amateur league. Like most CC uniforms so at least it is consistent in its cheap knockoff look.

  • Greg | April 25, 2022 at 11:28 am |

    Have to say the high stirrups in the first few photos look pretty ridiculous to me, with the stretched bottom, the photos with him in the Red Sox or red Angels’ uniform look much more appropriate for stirrup presentation.
    I had never heard the reasoning for sanitary socks until now. Given the dye is no longer poisonous (I would hope), seems like a very practical reason of function as to why today most players just go with colored socks as opposed to sanitary socks and stirrups.

    • Paul Lukas | April 25, 2022 at 2:36 pm |

      Yes, stirrups long ago became a skeuomorph. (And then two-in-ones are a skeuomorph of a skeuomorph!) Once functional, now just decorative. But I still love Ramirez’s new style!

  • mike 2 | April 25, 2022 at 12:21 pm |

    “Was everyone really taught in Little League to wear the smaller stirrup opening in the front? I don’t think I was — I just figured it out by watching big-leaguers. What about you folks?”

    If you’re under 50 you’ve hardly seen a big-leaguer wearing stirrups properly. Its either been long pants, solid colour socks, or (if you’re old enough) ribbon stirrups.

    I converted my kid and a bunch of kids on his team to stirrups a few years back. They learned from me and I learned from uni-watch.

    “high hole goes in the back”
    “why?”
    “it just does”

    • MJ | April 25, 2022 at 1:06 pm |

      I’m 46, but your point is more or less on the mark.
      I was taught to wear stirrups and to wear them the right way in Little League. By high school, I got long, black racing stripe stirrups but wrapped them around my feet to show more sock and less stripe. But there was still some white sani beneath the black, as it should be. Pant cuffs below the knee. I wasn’t the only one, and this was almost 30 years ago. I had an old-school coach in high school.

      • Dootie Bubble | April 25, 2022 at 4:31 pm |

        I’m mid-40s too and we had stirrups in my Florida hometown’s youth baseball league (was county run not Little League affiliated). I remember thinking it was exciting to have the new interesting piece of equiptment. I don’t remember anyone telling us how to wear them and didn’t know the front/back thing so I’m assuming we all, or at least me, just put them on whichever way they came out of the drawer and nobody made any corrections.

    • Paul Lukas | April 25, 2022 at 2:37 pm |

      If you’re under 50 you’ve hardly seen a big-leaguer wearing stirrups properly.

      Yeah, but Gary Cohen isn’t under 50, and he was clearly implying that that’s what he himself had been taught. (Today’s kids, obviously, aren’t even issued stirrups to begin with.)

      • Tim | April 25, 2022 at 3:20 pm |

        Today’s kids, obviously, aren’t even issued stirrups to begin with.

        Yet another sign of the apocalypse. :-D

      • mike 2 | April 25, 2022 at 3:51 pm |

        You’re right, I’m just directly addressing the “what about you folks” question you posed. I don’t know anything about Gary Cohen.

  • Chris H | April 25, 2022 at 12:54 pm |

    Darling brought up the Vucinich thing on the Mets game yesterday.

  • Le Cracquere | April 25, 2022 at 1:14 pm |

    Nobody ever gave me instructions on which side faced the front. They just handed them out, and seemed satisfied if you put them on.

    I’ll have to respectfully differ with Paul on the low-cut stirrups, though: those seem to be how they were originally designed to look, and the way most players seemed to wear them through mid-century. They also meant enough real estate on the sock to include stripes! To me, at least, the high-cut stirrups were a fashionable affectation that led to further affectations (the two-in-one, etc.), and that ultimately led us to where we are now. Tough to feel nostalgic for a fashion that, in retrospect, seems like the first pull of the proverbial thread.

  • Curt | April 25, 2022 at 1:29 pm |

    Not sure if anyone else is experiencing this, but over the last 10 days or so, as I’m scrolling the site, I’m getting kicked off UniWatch altogether and to some ad site, usually for McAfee software, occasionally other things. It’s not a pop-up ad, it leaves UniWatch completely.

    It’s not a big deal, just annoying, so thought I should mention it. It usually happens when I hit one of the embedded ads between sections. It happened on the three separate occasions on either Thursday or Friday last week, and has happened at least once every day since last Monday.

    • MJ | April 26, 2022 at 7:32 am |

      Happened to me too, especially if I am on my iPhone. Multiple times.

      • Paul Lukas | April 26, 2022 at 8:04 am |

        Thanks for letting us know. Will try to diagnose/fix.

  • Coach Batt | April 25, 2022 at 2:02 pm |

    Always enjoy a solid stirrup conversation!

    Regarding the teaching of proper stirrup-wear, I have to do a full tutorial to my HS baseball team..(including how to fold pant cuffs inside-out for perfect blousing!!) My teaching trick regarding the half-moon is: “big in the back”. The team seems to remember that!

    Almost 100% of players, when they reach me in 9th grade, have no idea about stirrups…let alone how to wear them properly. So, here in the Wilmington, Del. area, it’s definitely not being taught in LL.

  • rpm | April 25, 2022 at 4:57 pm |

    how to correctly wear stirrups was 100% taught by my coach in little league. anyone who wore them, or one of them, backward was quickly corrected. that hazing continued from players up through the ranks.

    in my book, the lower the opening lands, the better the look. the big red machine wore them best during an era whose ribbon style would ultimately kill them. and why bother? because it’s the right proper thing to do, and it doesn’t really matter if anybody else notices, YOU know how uncomfortable it is.

  • Kek | April 25, 2022 at 6:07 pm |

    Thanks for the Orthodox Easter shoutout Paul!

    Speedy recovery for Vuc.

  • Patrick_in_Mi | April 25, 2022 at 7:24 pm |

    I don’t recall being issued stirrups back in 1981 but I ended up wearing tube socks with Northwestern stripes in team colors (blue, yellow, blue). Some of my teammates did have stirrups though as they were more experienced. Our uniforms consisted of cap (all teams had the same cap), polyester pullover jersey in team color and white pants.

  • Greg Riff | April 25, 2022 at 7:39 pm |

    As a kid playing baseball in the mid-90s, stirrups were long out of standard practice. I do remember having a couple pairs but no one showed me how to use them. I still don’t understand why one side would be wider than the other. Symmetry seems so easy and logical for stirrups! :P My clearest memory though is seeing Chipper Jones’ look and thinking it was so unique and cool and trying to replicate that. It seems like that first impression becomes your standard for “best look” so I always thought his low symmetrical execution was the best way. I recall getting the 2-in-1s with the stripe but they never quite had the look I wanted.

  • Greg Riff | April 25, 2022 at 7:39 pm |

    As a kid playing baseball in the mid-90s, stirrups were long out of standard practice. I do remember having a couple pairs but no one showed me how to use them. I still don’t understand why one side would be wider than the other. Symmetry seems so easy and logical for stirrups! :P My clearest memory though is seeing Chipper Jones’ look and thinking it was so unique and cool and trying to replicate that. It seems like that first impression becomes your standard for “best look” so I always thought his low symmetrical execution was the best way. I recall getting the 2-in-1s with the stripe but they never quite had the look I wanted.

  • Mark Ramos | April 28, 2022 at 9:45 pm |

    My Dad taught me how to wear my first Little League uniform in 1969. I distinctly remember his guidance about the stirrups, low in the front, high in the back. A key part of the guidance is how to cuff them: turn your pants inside out and put your feet in, pull them up to just below the knee, fold the stirrup down over the pant leg, and then pull up the pants. Perfect cuff! I and my siblings passed this trick down to all of our kids. I still wear stirrups while playing adult baseball, but it is easier with knicker-length pants.