Witih Brett Favre’s situation finally resolved, Roger Goodell decided it was OK for the world to start spinning again. Among other edicts (like finally allowing NFL employees to go to the bathroom instead of watching the non-stop Brett coverage on that TV station I work for), he came down from the mountaintop with two tablets that read, “OK, you can start the preseason now (not that anyone really cares, but it’s a fun way to bilk some extra change from our season ticket holders).” And so it came to pass that several teams descended upon that gridiron last night.
As you know, this is shaping up as a quiet season uni-wise, but I spotted a few noteworthy items in last night’s action:
• Good to see the Bears are still using that horizontal yoke darting. (If you’re not familiar with it, look here for further details.)
• Sure enough, the logo-emblazoned green helmet dot just looks dirty or smudgy when viewed from a distance. Doesn’t look so great up close either. Lame. (I couldn’t find a photo of a defensive helmet dot — anyone..?)
• Here are our first in-game views of the Lions’ 75th-season patch. Can’t stand how much black it adds to the proceedings. Kinda big too, no?
• Man, those new black stripes on the officials’ pants sure are heavy.
• Didn’t watch this game, but it sure looks like it was easy on the eyes. Very nice.
• You don’t need to hate purple as much as I do to be alarmed by this.
• His future looks, uh, bright.
And finally, although it didn’t take place on the field, take a look at this shot. As several commenters noted last night, the two microphones show two different versions of the NFL Network logo.
Whitewash: Reader Tim Brulia has undertaken a Herculean research project: He and some friends have documented every single instance of NFL teams wearing white at home since 1957. He’s offered this database to me, and I’ve uploaded it onto this page — enjoy.
Olympix Outreach: I will not be near a TV set tonight or during the weekend, so I’ll miss all the bullshit the opening ceremonies and the several days’ worth of competition. Won’t be near a computer either, so I won’t be able to check in on the comments to see what you folks are noticing over the weekend. I am interested in compiling a record of what’s going on in Beijing, however. So if you see anything noteworthy over the next few days, don’t assume that I’m watching it too — instead, send me an e-mail with “Olympics” in the subject line. I’ll start sifting through the material once I get back to civilization on Sunday night.
Raffle Reminder: Today’s the last day for the SoccerPro.com $100 gift card raffle. If you haven’t done so already, you can enter by sending a blank e-mail with your name in the subject line to the raffle address (not to the usual Uni Watch e-mail address, please) by 10pm eastern tonight. One entry per person, unless you’re enrolled in the Uni Watch membership program, in which case you can send up to four entries. I’ll announce the winner next Monday, when I’ll also be announcing yet another raffle.
Uni Watch News Ticker: The USA men’s soccer team is also playing without the USA soccer crest, just like the women. Further info here (although I’m not sure how accurate the writer’s assessment is). ”¦ A Washington letter carrier wants to trade in his uniform pants for a kilt, which would certainly give new meaning to the term “going postal.” Details here (with thanks to Brinke Guthrie). ”¦ Speaking of non-sports uniforms, here’s a note from frequent flier Minna H.: “Here’s an interesting article about a Frank Lloyd Wright gas station in Cloquet, Minnesota that’s celebrating its 50th anniversary. The attendants will be wearing period unis, and anyone driving a classic car gets gas at 1950s prices.” ”¦ Joel Kirstein has created a three-part survey of Olympics logos. Check it out here, here, and here. ”¦ Lincoln King spotted the Astros’ strength and conditioning coach, Gene Coleman, wearing a jersey and shorts prior to Wednesday’s ’Stros/Cubs game. His jersey had an NOB but no number. ”¦ Equipment note from Jacob Little, who writes: “During Wednesday’s White Sox game, color man Steve Stone mentioned a new method to organize the players bats in the dugout. Instead of being listed by name or number on the cubby, they’re listed by the player’s country of origin (or in the U.S. players’ case, by state of origin). I’ll be at two games during this homestand, so I’ll try to grab a picture.” ”¦ Another guy with a pin on his cap: Frank Robinson during his Giants managerial stint. Hard to tell if it’s the old Croix de Candlestick pin (full details on that are here), but it probably is — the timeline matches up (with thanks to Andy Chalifour). ”¦ Latest awesome photo contribution from Jared Wheeler: Monte Cross of the Philadelphia A’s wearing a killer sweater. ”¦ You knew Johnny U. finished his career with the Chargers. But did you know he wore blue high-tops? (Thanks to Matt Mitchell.) ”¦ Lots of the Ravens are wearing that Gouge-Gard protective helmet film, as seen here, here, here, here, and here (with thanks to Jack Krabbe). ”¦ Good thing the Yankees are such a classy organization (with thanks to Steven Samuels). ”¦ Big article here about Under Armour. ”¦ Here’s the new Colorado jersey — interesting. Kinda need to see it with pads, but I’m actually more intrigued than appalled. Additional pics here (with thanks to Robert Andrew Powell). ”¦ New design for Houston too, going from this to this. ”¦ Wanna see something really, really cool? Go here and move the slider from year to year (big thanks to KJ Kearney). ”¦ Doesn’t really look so weird. ”¦ Appalachian State will be wearing throwbacks on September 6th to mark coach Jerry Moore’s 20th year. Additional pics here. ”¦ Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Check out Fernando Tatis from Wednesday night’s Mets/Padres game — for once, a helmet dot Ticker item that has nothing to do with the NFL. ”¦ “Okay,” says Nile Smith, “so last year and the year before you might have noticed how Ohio State players changed from wearing white socks to black. But during yesterday’s team photo, almost everyone had white socks. Hopefully this doesn’t change back during the season. It sounds tiny and odd, but Ohio State fans went ballistic when they switched from white socks to black.” … I’m deeply saddened — and, frankly, a little offended — to report that Len Kasper and Bob Brenly did not mention Uni Watch on the air yesterday. The fact that the Cubs had an off day is no excuse.
Wanna see something really, really cool? Go here and move the slider from year to year
I love 1904, did the rest of the countries forget there was an Olympics that year? ha ha
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Doubtful Pennington makes an impact this year. If the Bears and Lovie have a nutsack at all,they’ll give the ball to Kyle Orton and unleash him … assuming he’s shaved that scraggly beard!
Guy has a gun, just needs some consistent reps, instead of always having to look over his shoulder or wait for Rexy to be Rexy.
I can’t believe you’d make fun of a poor, innocent kid like that. You’re such a heartless bastard. Uni Watch is going down the crapper. Bring back Vince!
[quote comment=”283864″]I can’t believe you’d make fun of a poor, innocent kid like that. You’re such a heartless bastard. Uni Watch is going down the crapper. Bring back Vince![/quote]
Uhh … Bryan … wake up Bryan … you’re having a nightmare.
Shame about the Postal Service not allowing the kilts. For one thing, the UtiliKilt brand kilts in the photo are really comfortable. For another, the Post Office already has its own registered tartan:
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What’s the point of having your own official registered tartan if you won’t allow your people to wear a kilt?
Now if only we could get a sports team to use plaid instead of stripes …
This guy had no interest in a “gouge-guard”
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I’m missing something… how are the two NFL logos on the mikes in that picture different? They look the same to me, though the blues and reds appear to be ever so slightly different (which could be due to different glare, since they are at slightly different angles?)
Several commenters apparently noted something, but I can’t spot the difference. I must be missing something incredibly obvious. What’s the deal?
[quote comment=”283872″]I’m missing something… how are the two NFL logos on the mikes in that picture different? They look the same to me, though the blues and reds appear to be ever so slightly different (which could be due to different glare, since they are at slightly different angles?)
Several commenters apparently noted something, but I can’t spot the difference. I must be missing something incredibly obvious. What’s the deal?[/quote]
Look at the font.
The back of Ken Wisenhunt’s hat still had the old NFL logo last night. I wasn’t able to get a screen shot of the back, but I’m guess this is just last year’s hat design.
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[quote comment=”283864″]I can’t believe you’d make fun of a poor, innocent kid like that. You’re such a heartless bastard. Uni Watch is going down the crapper. Bring back Vince![/quote]
See, now that is funny. Nice, Bryan. In the words of Billy Joel “Don’t take no shit from nobody!”
~E~
[quote comment=”283873″][quote comment=”283872″]I’m missing something… how are the two NFL logos on the mikes in that picture different? They look the same to me, though the blues and reds appear to be ever so slightly different (which could be due to different glare, since they are at slightly different angles?)
Several commenters apparently noted something, but I can’t spot the difference. I must be missing something incredibly obvious. What’s the deal?[/quote]
Look at the font.[/quote]
Especially the “L”
What is the timeline for the “Croix”? The link currently contains no info. Since that picture was taken in 1982 (perhaps in Spring Training) would the timeline still fit. I don’t have the card but slightly larger images make it look like a odd shaped pin, not a button.
In any case, I did stumble on this photo of Frank managing winter ball, nice ‘stach:
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I’m getting the Australian (or possibly South African) feed of the Olympic opening ceremonies on my hotel TV right now. The Brazilian team just marched in wearing a BRASIL T-Shirt, green blazer (with black collar) and white floppy fishing hat. Looked more “Spaulding Smails” than an Olympic contingent.
Gas is expensive, the economy sucks, Forbes just said your state (Ohio) has the fastest dying cities in the country, and what are people writing letters to editor of the Columbus Dispatch complaining about? The color of Ohio State football teams socks. Jim Tressel and Gene Smith (AD) must read the papers! Maybe they boosted ticket prices to $70 to pay for the white socks!
Love those Appalachian State throwbacks …
USA Today article about the Ralph Lauren opening ceremony uniforms for US athletes. Ya think the polo logo is big enough?
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[quote comment=”283871″]This guy had no interest in a “gouge-guard”
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Before I even clicked on the link, I knew it would be a picture of Dave Butts…weird…
I’m sorry but what is the point of having opening ceremonies if there is already Olypmic events going on? Stupid. Should be first thing that happans, if the Opening Ceremomies aren’t the first thing to happan, then it’s just ‘a ceremony’…
[quote comment=”283864″]I can’t believe you’d make fun of a poor, innocent kid like that. You’re such a heartless bastard. Uni Watch is going down the crapper. Bring back Vince![/quote]
Good one!!!! (I’m sure you’ve been waiting a long time to unload that one!)
Valid point…doesn’t seem to be much outrage but i can only imagine what would have happen if that was posted tomo…..you know what, you should post THAT photo as the lead on tomorrow’s post and just see what happens!!!!
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OH MY HEAVENS!!! Where is the outrage with this terrible logo creep. Ralph Lauren Polo horseys on the athlete’s blazers. Oh no, the world is coming to an end!
[quote comment=”283885″]http://www.usatoday.com/life/lifestyle/fashion/2008-08-08-olympic-uniforms_N.htm
OH MY HEAVENS!!! Where is the outrage with this terrible logo creep. Ralph Lauren Polo horseys on the athlete’s blazers. Oh no, the world is coming to an end![/quote]
Nike seems to be the only company that gets Uniwatcher’s blood boiling.
[quote comment=\”283885\”]http://www.usatoday.com/life/lifestyle/fashion/2008-08-08-olympic-uniforms_N.htm
OH MY HEAVENS!!! Where is the outrage with this terrible logo creep. Ralph Lauren Polo horseys on the athlete\’s blazers. Oh no, the world is coming to an end![/quote]
At least the Bill Blass blazers from 2000 were classy. Only logo was on the pocket.
Props to that all white at home database…holy crap that had to be a time-consuming research project.
Thanks Timothy, you’ve created a reference page of all of us to have in our uni-centric arsenal!
So the kid’s Black Youth Lions jersey even emulates the original by having the “sleeve” “stripe” go just halfway around.
I give up.
Why do I keep thinking Roger Clemens every time I see/hear Brett Favre? They both “retired” but never missed a game; both from the South’ both show up to unretire and forget to shave; both have special transportation (Learjet/Hummer) that wastes fuel.
[quote comment=”283890″]Why do I keep thinking Roger Clemens every time I see/hear Brett Favre? They both “retired” but never missed a game; both from the South’ both show up to unretire and forget to shave; both have special transportation (Learjet/Hummer) that wastes fuel.[/quote]
Well, the first time.
The second time, Roger Clemens missed the first month and a half of the season before coming back.
[quote comment=”283882″][quote comment=”283871″]This guy had no interest in a “gouge-guard”
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Before I even clicked on the link, I knew it would be a picture of Dave Butts…weird…[/quote]
The first shot (1987) shows that someone insisted that he paint in the scar marks. This is from 1982:
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Spaulding!
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Funny it hasn’t gone mentioned, but apparently the NFL is so insecure about its new logo that the crest is now plastered dead center on every NFL official’s hat:
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I’ve always liked the fact that the referee’s hat is white, while other officials’ hats are black. The logo emblazoned on the hats ruins this classy and subtle move. As if we spectators will be watching TV and utter, “Now, what professional football league is this again?”
[quote comment=”283890″]Why do I keep thinking Roger Clemens every time I see/hear Brett Favre? They both “retired” but never missed a game; both from the South’ both show up to unretire and forget to shave; both have special transportation (Learjet/Hummer) that wastes fuel.[/quote]
It reminds me of Dominik Hasek:
Wins Cup in 2002
Retires
Wants to come back year later, wings kind of force to take him, causes lockerroom hell, plays 14 games, rips groin in half.
Retires (2)
Comes back after lockout, plays for OTT, plays in Olympics rips groin in half again.
Retir….. NOPE! Comes BACK to DET for 2 years, wins cup as backup in 08.
Retires (3)
[quote comment=”283869″]Shame about the Postal Service not allowing the kilts. For one thing, the UtiliKilt brand kilts in the photo are really comfortable. For another, the Post Office already has its own registered tartan:
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What’s the point of having your own official registered tartan if you won’t allow your people to wear a kilt?
Now if only we could get a sports team to use plaid instead of stripes …[/quote]
Not to rain on anyone’s parade, but they have a uniform. That’s the standard. Not someone in a kilt, not someone in a Hawaiian print shirt because they work on the islands – wear the uniform.
It’s a uniform, with “uni” meaning one. One look, one standard. Easily recognizable. No confusion as to who is walking up your sidewalk with a package tucked under his arm (and under his kilt). ;o)
[quote comment=”283894″]Funny it hasn’t gone mentioned, but apparently the NFL is so insecure about its new logo that the crest is now plastered dead center on every NFL official’s hat:
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I’ve always liked the fact that the referee’s hat is white, while other officials’ hats are black. The logo emblazoned on the hats ruins this classy and subtle move. As if we spectators will be watching TV and utter, “Now, what professional football league is this again?”[/quote]
NFL logo has been on officials’ caps for several years now.
[quote comment=”283891″][quote comment=”283890″]Why do I keep thinking Roger Clemens every time I see/hear Brett Favre? They both “retired” but never missed a game; both from the South’ both show up to unretire and forget to shave; both have special transportation (Learjet/Hummer) that wastes fuel.[/quote]
Well, the first time.
The second time, Roger Clemens missed the first month and a half of the season before coming back.[/quote]
He missed it because he wanted an extended vacation and show up when it was getting interesting. Brett wanted to take training camp off (“I just can’t do ‘all the other stuff'”). So in my book they are alot alike. Transformed at some point from the hardest working athletes in their sport to divas insisting on separate rules.
Did anybody else notice Jose Reyes was wearing his pants with the cuffs up? He didn’t wear them up when the Mets played against the NYY’s at Yankee Stadium and wore blue: link (Fourth photo)
[quote comment=”283893″]Spaulding!
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“I want a hamburger, no wait…”
I appreciate the effort that went into that NFL home white database research, but it would be a lot easier to digest if it was in some kind of chart format…
-Jet
When I was playing college football (and even in high school), playing in black socks was a big deal for us too. But we were players…I didn’t know fans cared.
But I think Ohio State looks good in the black on black. And besides, it doesn’t matter what color socks they rock–if they make it to the National Championship against a SEC team, they could wear Superman’s cape and they still will get busted!
[quote comment=”283896″][quote comment=”283869″]Shame about the Postal Service not allowing the kilts. For one thing, the UtiliKilt brand kilts in the photo are really comfortable. For another, the Post Office already has its own registered tartan:
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What’s the point of having your own official registered tartan if you won’t allow your people to wear a kilt?
Now if only we could get a sports team to use plaid instead of stripes …[/quote]
Not to rain on anyone’s parade, but they have a uniform. That’s the standard. Not someone in a kilt, not someone in a Hawaiian print shirt because they work on the islands – wear the uniform.
It’s a uniform, with “uni” meaning one. One look, one standard. Easily recognizable. No confusion as to who is walking up your sidewalk with a package tucked under his arm (and under his kilt). ;o)[/quote]
I agree totally. The post office has enough problems (just reported $1.1B loss) to worry about. They did what they should have done, squashed this and moved on.
[quote comment=”283898″][quote comment=”283891″][quote comment=”283890″]Why do I keep thinking Roger Clemens every time I see/hear Brett Favre? They both “retired” but never missed a game; both from the South’ both show up to unretire and forget to shave; both have special transportation (Learjet/Hummer) that wastes fuel.[/quote]
Well, the first time.
The second time, Roger Clemens missed the first month and a half of the season before coming back.[/quote]
He missed it because he wanted an extended vacation and show up when it was getting interesting. Brett wanted to take training camp off (“I just can’t do ‘all the other stuff'”). So in my book they are alot alike. Transformed at some point from the hardest working athletes in their sport to divas insisting on separate rules.[/quote]
Don’t compare Clemens to Favre, that’s a ridiculous insult. Clemens was/is a loud-mouthed steriod-fuled idiot who’ll be known for the rest of his life as a no-class cheater. Favre is a flip-flopper, he’ll be known as a great QB that couldn’t make up his mind. There’s a pretty large difference there.I’m not sure why people try so hard to compare people, especially sports figures, all the time. People are just one of a kind, leave it that way, stop trying to pretend that, “oh….he’s just like _____, blah blah blah!” No, Favre’s just like Favre, the end. Go Jets, BTW! Lets get that draft pick as high as possible.
stupid quote of the week (from NYT article on UA)
Wow, holy hyperbole. Deos someone want to get Ms. Faludi a book of sports metaphors (I’m sure there is an online glossary to help her out). To compare the “protect this house” concept (i.e. not getting beat on one’s home venue) to 9/11 is quite the stretch (and I’m being polite).
Pullitzer Prize winner or not, this is ther reason why I don’t like academics writing about sports, because most times, they miss the point.
[quote comment=”283904″][quote comment=”283898″][quote comment=”283891″][quote comment=”283890″]Why do I keep thinking Roger Clemens every time I see/hear Brett Favre? They both “retired” but never missed a game; both from the South’ both show up to unretire and forget to shave; both have special transportation (Learjet/Hummer) that wastes fuel.[/quote]
Well, the first time.
The second time, Roger Clemens missed the first month and a half of the season before coming back.[/quote]
He missed it because he wanted an extended vacation and show up when it was getting interesting. Brett wanted to take training camp off (“I just can’t do ‘all the other stuff'”). So in my book they are alot alike. Transformed at some point from the hardest working athletes in their sport to divas insisting on separate rules.[/quote]
Don’t compare Clemens to Favre, that’s a ridiculous insult. Clemens was/is a loud-mouthed steriod-fuled idiot who’ll be known for the rest of his life as a no-class cheater. Favre is a flip-flopper, he’ll be known as a great QB that couldn’t make up his mind. There’s a pretty large difference there.I’m not sure why people try so hard to compare people, especially sports figures, all the time. People are just one of a kind, leave it that way, stop trying to pretend that, “oh….he’s just like _____, blah blah blah!” No, Favre’s just like Favre, the end. Go Jets, BTW! Lets get that draft pick as high as possible.[/quote]
I don’t think Brett should have retired if he really didn’t want to retire. But, the feel I get from all of this is that the Packers really didn’t want him back for the last two years of his contract and pushed the issue. I think the whole mess was handled poorly from both sides. But, I’m going to come down on Brett’s side because through all of this mess his focus seemed to be on playing.
By the way … what happens if the Jets cut Brett before the season starts and Brett signs with Minnesota? Do the jets owe Green Bay a fourth round pick? Does Ted Thompson’s head explode?
Don’t know if this has been mentioned before, but…
Trot Nixon wore stirrups with the Sox, but not the kind with the stripes.
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[quote comment=”283907″]Don’t know if this has been mentioned before, but…
Trot Nixon wore stirrups with the Sox, but not the kind with the stripes.
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[quote comment=”283904″]He missed it because he wanted an extended vacation and show up when it was getting interesting. Brett wanted to take training camp off (“I just can’t do ‘all the other stuff'”). So in my book they are alot alike. Transformed at some point from the hardest working athletes in their sport to divas insisting on separate rules.[/quote]
I find it amusing that Michael Strahan basically did that last year: decided, oh hell no I ain’t going to training camp, and just waltzed in when the season began. And yet at the end of the season far from being labeled a “diva who insists on separate rules” was actually lauded as a pretty smart guy for avoiding two-a-days and winning himself a ring.
Brett went about this the wrong way. I think he knew at his retirement press conference that he didn’t want to call it quits permanently. It was just that he didn’t want to go through the whole training camp experience again. He should have gone to Packers’ management and told them that. That would have put the ball in the Packers court and would have forced them to either let Brett slide on the basis that he’s a legend and deserves the break from training camp or refuse and risk the possible fallout from the Green Bay media and fans.
So, why is the US nixing the crest this year? They wore the US Soccer logo in 2004 in Athens:
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and in 2000 in Sydney:
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[quote comment=”283862″]Doubtful Pennington makes an impact this year. If the Bears and Lovie have a nutsack at all,they’ll give the ball to Kyle Orton and unleash him … assuming he’s shaved that scraggly beard!
Guy has a gun, just needs some consistent reps, instead of always having to look over his shoulder or wait for Rexy to be Rexy.[/quote]
in reality Rex has a far better arm and ability, unfortunatley he can’t figure out how to use either of those things so he’s not the better QB
Paul may not be appalled by the new Colorado jerseys, but I am. While I do not mind that team looking bad, I fear they might again start a horrible trend.
It took years for college football to undo the damage done by CU’s stripe-free black pants and the fad that followed, and I would hate to see such a travesty occur again.
Nice short blog entry on the NY Times baseball blog today on the history of facial hair in baseball, with a nice shout-out to Uni Watch
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[quote comment=”283904″][quote comment=”283898″][quote comment=”283891″][quote comment=”283890″]Why do I keep thinking Roger Clemens every time I see/hear Brett Favre? They both “retired” but never missed a game; both from the South’ both show up to unretire and forget to shave; both have special transportation (Learjet/Hummer) that wastes fuel.[/quote]
Well, the first time.
The second time, Roger Clemens missed the first month and a half of the season before coming back.[/quote]
He missed it because he wanted an extended vacation and show up when it was getting interesting. Brett wanted to take training camp off (“I just can’t do ‘all the other stuff'”). So in my book they are alot alike. Transformed at some point from the hardest working athletes in their sport to divas insisting on separate rules.[/quote]
Don’t compare Clemens to Favre, that’s a ridiculous insult. Clemens was/is a loud-mouthed steriod-fuled idiot who’ll be known for the rest of his life as a no-class cheater. Favre is a flip-flopper, he’ll be known as a great QB that couldn’t make up his mind. There’s a pretty large difference there.I’m not sure why people try so hard to compare people, especially sports figures, all the time. People are just one of a kind, leave it that way, stop trying to pretend that, “oh….he’s just like _____, blah blah blah!” No, Favre’s just like Favre, the end. Go Jets, BTW! Lets get that draft pick as high as possible.[/quote]
Favre will be remembered as a guy who for several years debated retiring, held the fudge packers hostage with the draft by not giving them answers for several years, finally retires then the packers move on and he decides they he wants to come back even though the team is moving on. He then complains that he shouldn’t have to compete for the job and it should just be his when the team needs to move on.
[quote comment=”283911″][quote comment=”283862″]Doubtful Pennington makes an impact this year. If the Bears and Lovie have a nutsack at all,they’ll give the ball to Kyle Orton and unleash him … assuming he’s shaved that scraggly beard!
Guy has a gun, just needs some consistent reps, instead of always having to look over his shoulder or wait for Rexy to be Rexy.[/quote]
in reality Rex has a far better arm and ability, unfortunatley he can’t figure out how to use either of those things so he’s not the better QB[/quote]
Grossman would have been one of the best QBs ever if Ron Zook had not been his coach. He teaches quarterbacks that they can fit a football into a hole the size of a baseball. He did the same thing to Chris Leak, or started to before Urban Meyer came in and returned Leak to the QB that he was. Zook also had stupid plays that involved the quarterback becoming a receiver of a pass from a runningback or from a wide receiver on a reverse. Grossman would have won the Heisman as a redshirt freshman, not Couch. Zook then ruined his career.
[/quote]By the way … what happens if the Jets cut Brett before the season starts and Brett signs with Minnesota? Do the jets owe Green Bay a fourth round pick? Does Ted Thompson’s head explode?[/quote]
If the Jets trade Favre to Minnesota the Packers get 4 number 1 draft picks from the Jets. Thompson put that clause in the trade agreement.
[quote comment=”283916″][/quote]By the way … what happens if the Jets cut Brett before the season starts and Brett signs with Minnesota? Do the jets owe Green Bay a fourth round pick? Does Ted Thompson’s head explode?[/quote]
If the Jets trade Favre to Minnesota the Packers get 4 number 1 draft picks from the Jets. Thompson put that clause in the trade agreement.[/quote]
They just released their starting quarterback, I doubt they would release Favreand let Clemens start with no backup.
[quote comment=”283912″]Paul may not be appalled by the new Colorado jerseys, but I am. While I do not mind that team looking bad, I fear they might again start a horrible trend.
It took years for college football to undo the damage done by CU’s stripe-free black pants and the fad that followed, and I would hate to see such a travesty occur again.[/quote]
What exactly is that strange pattern on the shoulders? I’m working with a pretty pterrible screen here at work.
Well done, Timothy Brulia. I had no idea white-at-home has been such a commonplace practice thru the years. Or that some teams, like the Dolphins, reversed this tendency during certain years (btw I think you skipped the ’85 Dolphins – didn’t they wear aqua at home when giving the Bears their only loss?).
Are you the guy who posts as “TimmyB”? If so, my ultimate uni watcher wish is for you to get together with Ricko to produce & publish the definitive historical guide to NFL/AFL uniforms.
The announcers on CBC Sports just commented about the British uniforms having little Union Jacks on the buttons and if they were there or not.
Is their an anti-purple bias with the white at home list, it appears that the Ravens are missing from the list and I assume that they are probably w-a-h virgins with the raiders/seahawks.
[quote comment=”283916″][/quote]By the way … what happens if the Jets cut Brett before the season starts and Brett signs with Minnesota? Do the jets owe Green Bay a fourth round pick? Does Ted Thompson’s head explode?[/quote]
If the Jets trade Favre to Minnesota the Packers get 4 number 1 draft picks from the Jets. Thompson put that clause in the trade agreement.[/quote]
Cutting a QB is different from trading him, no? Obviously the Jets can’t trade Brett, but what if they cut him?
Not that they’re going, as someone already pointed out that they released Pennington yesterday……
Wow.
Partick Thistle F.C., soccer club from Scotland, traditionally wears kits like link at home, a classic look with red and gold hoops. Nice!
Check out the unveiling of their new change/away kit for the upcoming season in this gallery. Ye gods!
Light pink and heather grey!
[quote comment=”283917″][quote comment=”283916″][/quote]By the way … what happens if the Jets cut Brett before the season starts and Brett signs with Minnesota? Do the jets owe Green Bay a fourth round pick? Does Ted Thompson’s head explode?[/quote]
If the Jets trade Favre to Minnesota the Packers get 4 number 1 draft picks from the Jets. Thompson put that clause in the trade agreement.[/quote]
They just released their starting quarterback, I doubt they would release Favreand let Clemens start with no backup.[/quote]
Two things:
1) Packers obviously scared shitless of Favre coming Vikings. And why shouldn’t they be. On paper–and to a great extent on the field–Vikings have a decent chance to run off and hide with NFC title…even without Favre. With him, as Chris Carter said on Mike & Mike, “They’d be frightening.”
2) Can’t really blame Packers for moving on. Local sportstalk station here played sound bites of Favre going back to ’03, and every year he talks about not knowing if he’ll come back. I imagine that got a little old for Packer management and coaches after awhile.
Sorry…/here/ is the link to the pink and heather grey for Partick Thistle F.C.
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Damn it! Just go here for the Partick Thistle!
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I really miss the quick link buttons. :(
If this has been commented on already sorry for the repeat – On Monday Night Football last night the broadcasters were talking about the stripes on the Refs pants. One of them commented they liked it as they were now one step closer to really looking like Zebra’s.
[quote comment=”283903″][quote comment=”283896″][quote comment=”283869″]Shame about the Postal Service not allowing the kilts. For one thing, the UtiliKilt brand kilts in the photo are really comfortable. For another, the Post Office already has its own registered tartan:
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What’s the point of having your own official registered tartan if you won’t allow your people to wear a kilt?
Now if only we could get a sports team to use plaid instead of stripes …[/quote]
Not to rain on anyone’s parade, but they have a uniform. That’s the standard. Not someone in a kilt, not someone in a Hawaiian print shirt because they work on the islands – wear the uniform.
It’s a uniform, with “uni” meaning one. One look, one standard. Easily recognizable. No confusion as to who is walking up your sidewalk with a package tucked under his arm (and under his kilt). ;o)[/quote]
I agree totally. The post office has enough problems (just reported $1.1B loss) to worry about. They did what they should have done, squashed this and moved on.[/quote]
He can just wear a USPS Skort in Rosie O’Donnell size and be done with it…
However, if the USPS allows this: Pith Helmet; then why a kilt?
[quote comment=”283924″]Two things:
1) Packers obviously scared shitless of Favre coming Vikings. And why shouldn’t they be. On paper–and to a great extent on the field–Vikings have a decent chance to run off and hide with NFC title…even without Favre. With him, as Chris Carter said on Mike & Mike, “They’d be frightening.”
2) Can’t really blame Packers for moving on. Local sportstalk station here played sound bites of Favre going back to ’03, and every year he talks about not knowing if he’ll come back. I imagine that got a little old for Packer management and coaches after awhile.[/quote]
The original question was whether the Packers had any recourse if Favre was cut. Someone responded with the penalty if the Jets traded Favre.
Can something be put into a contract not allowing a team to release someone? I can’t believe the NFL would allow another team to dictate what player a club could cut from its roster. I guess there’s always the risk to the Packers that the Jets conceivably could cut Favre and he would sign with the Vikings. But I can’t believe that the NFL would allow some sort of clause that says “The Jets cannot release Brett Favre or else they would have to send X number of picks to the Packers in return”. What happens if Brett just doesn’t work out?
Interesting hockey face mask. link|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14.l1318
frank’s pin on ’83 donruss not croix de candlestick. too small and not orange enough.
[quote comment=”283929″][quote comment=”283924″]Two things:
1) Packers obviously scared shitless of Favre coming Vikings. And why shouldn’t they be. On paper–and to a great extent on the field–Vikings have a decent chance to run off and hide with NFC title…even without Favre. With him, as Chris Carter said on Mike & Mike, “They’d be frightening.”
2) Can’t really blame Packers for moving on. Local sportstalk station here played sound bites of Favre going back to ’03, and every year he talks about not knowing if he’ll come back. I imagine that got a little old for Packer management and coaches after awhile.[/quote]
The original question was whether the Packers had any recourse if Favre was cut. Someone responded with the penalty if the Jets traded Favre.
Can something be put into a contract not allowing a team to release someone? I can’t believe the NFL would allow another team to dictate what player a club could cut from its roster. I guess there’s always the risk to the Packers that the Jets conceivably could cut Favre and he would sign with the Vikings. But I can’t believe that the NFL would allow some sort of clause that says “The Jets cannot release Brett Favre or else they would have to send X number of picks to the Packers in return”. What happens if Brett just doesn’t work out?[/quote]
I seriously doubt that the Jets would cut Brett. But, it’s a hell of a lot of fun thinking about the reaction the Packers would have if it did happen. That said, it’s always possible that the Jets could release Brett after the season.
[quote comment=”283929″][quote comment=”283924″]Two things:
1) Packers obviously scared shitless of Favre coming Vikings. And why shouldn’t they be. On paper–and to a great extent on the field–Vikings have a decent chance to run off and hide with NFC title…even without Favre. With him, as Chris Carter said on Mike & Mike, “They’d be frightening.”
2) Can’t really blame Packers for moving on. Local sportstalk station here played sound bites of Favre going back to ’03, and every year he talks about not knowing if he’ll come back. I imagine that got a little old for Packer management and coaches after awhile.[/quote]
The original question was whether the Packers had any recourse if Favre was cut. Someone responded with the penalty if the Jets traded Favre.
Can something be put into a contract not allowing a team to release someone? I can’t believe the NFL would allow another team to dictate what player a club could cut from its roster. I guess there’s always the risk to the Packers that the Jets conceivably could cut Favre and he would sign with the Vikings. But I can’t believe that the NFL would allow some sort of clause that says “The Jets cannot release Brett Favre or else they would have to send X number of picks to the Packers in return”. What happens if Brett just doesn’t work out?[/quote]
Yeah, they can release him. That stuff about draft choices only relates to a trade. Limiting a team’s ability to cut a player is indirectly forcing them to keep him. You can put conditions on a trade because it implies the player still has value to the team, because they want something in return. But, if they think he’s valuelss to them, they have every right to cut him.
[quote comment=”283911″][quote comment=”283862″]Doubtful Pennington makes an impact this year. If the Bears and Lovie have a nutsack at all,they’ll give the ball to Kyle Orton and unleash him … assuming he’s shaved that scraggly beard!
Guy has a gun, just needs some consistent reps, instead of always having to look over his shoulder or wait for Rexy to be Rexy.[/quote]
in reality Rex has a far better arm and ability, unfortunatley he can’t figure out how to use either of those things so he’s not the better QB[/quote]
If an arm was all that it took to be a QB, Ken O’Brien would be in the Hall of Fame.
Last night, during the Saints Cardinals game, the punter for the Saints, Steve Weatherford, was wearing a watch during the game. I didn’t have my camera to get a screen shot, but I’m working on it.
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[quote comment=”283927″]If this has been commented on already sorry for the repeat – On Monday Night Football last night the broadcasters were talking about the stripes on the Refs pants. One of them commented they liked it as they were now one step closer to really looking like Zebra’s.[/quote]
Those stripes are horrible!
Postal Carrier Dean Peterson should have spent his family’s $1,800 economic stimulus tax rebate on a gym membership and then maybe he wouldn’t have so much chaffing just from wearing pants.
[quote comment=”283935″]Last night, during the Saints Cardinals game, the punter for the Saints, Steve Weatherford, was wearing a watch during the game. I didn’t have my camera to get a screen shot, but I’m working on it.
Z[/quote]
Reggie Roby wore a watch his whole career – supposedly to check his hang time.. not sure why someone else on the sidelines wasn’t doing it.
[quote comment=”283936″][quote comment=”283927″]If this has been commented on already sorry for the repeat – On Monday Night Football last night the broadcasters were talking about the stripes on the Refs pants. One of them commented they liked it as they were now one step closer to really looking like Zebra’s.[/quote]
Those stripes are horrible![/quote]
The white stripe on the blacks isn’t so bad, but these really are ghastly, aren’t they. All those stripes. Do like Zebras now.
Or clowns. Anybody notice, did they all arrive in one tiny car?
[quote comment=”283937″]Postal Carrier Dean Peterson should have spent his family’s $1,800 economic stimulus tax rebate on a gym membership and then maybe he wouldn’t have so much chaffing just from wearing pants.[/quote]
Fat jokes… how original here in Uni-Watch
[quote comment=”283926″]Damn it! Just go here for the Partick Thistle!
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I really miss the quick link buttons. :([/quote]
Miami Vice FC?
[quote comment=”283934″][quote comment=”283911″][quote comment=”283862″]Doubtful Pennington makes an impact this year. If the Bears and Lovie have a nutsack at all,they’ll give the ball to Kyle Orton and unleash him … assuming he’s shaved that scraggly beard!
Guy has a gun, just needs some consistent reps, instead of always having to look over his shoulder or wait for Rexy to be Rexy.[/quote]
in reality Rex has a far better arm and ability, unfortunatley he can’t figure out how to use either of those things so he’s not the better QB[/quote]
If an arm was all that it took to be a QB, Ken O’Brien would be in the Hall of Fame.[/quote]
Or Vince Evans.
[quote comment=”283921″]Is their an anti-purple bias with the white at home list, it appears that the Ravens are missing from the list and I assume that they are probably w-a-h virgins with the raiders/seahawks.[/quote]
very observant. the ravens are missing from the list. however, i believe they have worn white at home from time to time. it’s up to the guys who made the list to document it for us.
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App State throwbacks..
Gee, how old-fashioned. No zigs, zags, piping, fangs, claw marks, tire treadmarks, sports bra, armpit circles or team NOF.
And what appear to be…stripes of some sort, even apparently on the pants.
Why’d anybody wanna wear THAT.
(ooo, the sarcasm drips)
[quote comment=”283888″]Props to that all white at home database…holy crap that had to be a time-consuming research project.
Thanks Timothy, you’ve created a reference page of all of us to have in our uni-centric arsenal![/quote]
kek,
You’re welcome. MUCH credit has to go to Kyle, who compiled much of the info from the 80’s to present as well as Kevin who is also deeply involved in football uni research.
One little tidbit is the fact that for a three year stretch (1968-1970) the Rams never wore their blue jerseys.
Ravens were on the white jersey list, the team name wasn’t boldened… From said list
Ravens; 2002 vs. Bucs; 2003 vs. Browns; 2004 vs. Steelers; 2006 vs. Raiders
Not uni-related, but tonight’s/today’s order of nations for the opening ceromonies is pretty unique…
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Paul:
I just came across this on a phobia website:
Porphyrophobia- Fear of the color purple.
Ravens were on the white jersey list, the team name wasn’t boldened… From said list
Ravens; 2002 vs. Bucs; 2003 vs. Browns; 2004 vs. Steelers; 2006 vs. Raiders
*All of those games were their season home opener. It can still be really hot in mid September in Baltimore so going with the all white should be cooler than the dark jerseys.
[quote comment=”283856″][quote comment=”283855″]Betemit link again Thursday night.
Do the Yankees even have Cool-base jerseys? It doesn’t seem like they wore them in Texas, despite the heat.[/quote]
As far as I know, the Yankees have NEVER worn cool base jerseys during a game. The do sell them though, like anything else….[/quote]
Are the Yankees the only team that doesn’t sport Cool-Base jerseys?
On another Yankees-related note, link. That patch on the sleeve looks like it’s hanging really low, but that could be a result of the huge sleeve.
[quote comment=”283948″]*All of those games were their season home opener. It can still be really hot in mid September in Baltimore so going with the all white should be cooler than the dark jerseys.[/quote]
I’m slightly surprised given that, the Ravens haven’t worn white at home more. With their first game at home at 1:00 this season I’ll wager a nickel they’ll be wearing white then.
[quote comment=”283943″][quote comment=”283921″]Is their an anti-purple bias with the white at home list, it appears that the Ravens are missing from the list and I assume that they are probably w-a-h virgins with the raiders/seahawks.[/quote]
very observant. the ravens are missing from the list. however, i believe they have worn white at home from time to time. it’s up to the guys who made the list to document it for us.[/quote]
Ravens are not missing from the list — their heading just wasn’t in boldface, so it was harder to make out (same with the Lions). Now fixed.
Check out this hockey facemask worn by Paul Henderson with the Toronto Maple Leafs: link
eBay Auction (not mine): link
Ives Galarcep is an established soccer writer who has good sources. I trust him on this if he says we can blame the IOC for the lack of a crest on the US uniforms (or, alternatively, USSF for not figuring out that a non-official crest wouldn’t violate the stupid rule).
Joey Cora wore pins on his cap while he was with the mariners
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re: Discussion of Chicago Cougars jerseys yesterday. As I thought, the three-stripe pattern was on the shoulder yoke, too.
Gold…with the KELLY (not dark/forest) breezers.
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Black breezers shown in a b&w photo…
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More Cougars, this for example…
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…is wrong. Stripes were white. And can’t tell but should, of course, be three stripes on shoulder yoke.
Thanks for the edits, Paul!
[quote comment=\”283881\”]USA Today article about the Ralph Lauren opening ceremony uniforms for US athletes. Ya think the polo logo is big enough?
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Why do designers hate these teams? Would it be too hard to make the uniforms pleasing to the eye? The designers should look at tradition and not making our athletes look like tools.
Forgot to mention this, but the downfall began when the American olympic committee chose a Canadian designer, but the Americans aren’t doing much better.
[quote comment=”283959″][quote comment=\”283881\”]USA Today article about the Ralph Lauren opening ceremony uniforms for US athletes. Ya think the polo logo is big enough?
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Why do designers hate these teams? Would it be too hard to make the uniforms pleasing to the eye? The designers should look at tradition and not making our athletes look like tools.[/quote]
Kinda fun 30’s-40’s look, but two logos on a blazer? I think not. AND THE HORSEY MAN’S JUST A TAD BIG, THERE, RALPHIE!
The mesh on the back of Eli’s jersey here runs all the way up to the collar, rather than ending before the nameplate:
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Is this a permanent switch for the Giants or just an experiment?
[quote comment=”283961″][quote comment=”283959″][quote comment=\”283881\”]USA Today article about the Ralph Lauren opening ceremony uniforms for US athletes. Ya think the polo logo is big enough?
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Why do designers hate these teams? Would it be too hard to make the uniforms pleasing to the eye? The designers should look at tradition and not making our athletes look like tools.[/quote]
Kinda fun 30’s-40’s look, but two logos on a blazer? I think not. AND THE HORSEY MAN’S JUST A TAD BIG, THERE, RALPHIE![/quote]
Those unis made think of something, so this isn’t uni-related, but rather uni-inspired. In CHARLIE CHAN AT THE OLYMPICS (1937), Charlie discovers he needs to leave for Berlin long after the Olympic team has left, travelling by ship. Typically panicky No. 1 Son asks, “But, Pop, how’re we gonna get there before them???” Chan replies calmly, “Fly to New Jersey. Take airship Hindenburg to Berlin.”
—Ricko
The road Giants jerseys have always looked like this:
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The Lions 75th patch is so big because they want to make it absolutely clear that despite what their quality of play might indicate, they aren’t an expansion team, than you very much…
[quote comment=”283952″]Check out this hockey facemask worn by Paul Henderson with the Toronto Maple Leafs: link
eBay Auction (not mine): link
That mask looks like something you’d find on a kid’s playset football uniform. One slapshot would smash that things to pieces.
[quote comment=”283963″][quote comment=”283961″][quote comment=”283959″][quote comment=\”283881\”]USA Today article about the Ralph Lauren opening ceremony uniforms for US athletes. Ya think the polo logo is big enough?
link
Why do designers hate these teams? Would it be too hard to make the uniforms pleasing to the eye? The designers should look at tradition and not making our athletes look like tools.[/quote]
Kinda fun 30’s-40’s look, but two logos on a blazer? I think not. AND THE HORSEY MAN’S JUST A TAD BIG, THERE, RALPHIE![/quote]
Those unis made think of something, so this isn’t uni-related, but rather uni-inspired. In CHARLIE CHAN AT THE OLYMPICS (1937), Charlie discovers he needs to leave for Berlin long after the Olympic team has left, travelling by ship. Typically panicky No. 1 Son asks, “But, Pop, how’re we gonna get there before them???” Chan replies calmly, “Fly to New Jersey. Take airship Hindenburg to Berlin.”
—Ricko[/quote]
Of course, in May of ’37, the Hindenburg exploded on landing at Lakehurst, N.J.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”283962″]The mesh on the back of Eli’s jersey here runs all the way up to the collar, rather than ending before the nameplate:
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Is this a permanent switch for the Giants or just an experiment?[/quote]
Maybe this is what Joe Skiba was hinting about at the end of last year, which never materialized?
….Vikings: 1964 every home game except only in the 1st quarter of their game vs. the Lions….
The White at Home db has the above entry. I’m curious as to what the heck the story is.
[quote comment=”283969″]….Vikings: 1964 every home game except only in the 1st quarter of their game vs. the Lions….
The White at Home db has the above entry. I’m curious as to what the heck the story is.[/quote]
Isn’t that the story where both teams showed up with white jerseys and the Vikes were forced to switch to their purple?
[quote comment=”283967″]
Of course, in May of ’37, the Hindenburg exploded on landing at Lakehurst, N.J.
—Ricko[/quote]
Oh the humanity!
[quote comment=”283970″][quote comment=”283969″]….Vikings: 1964 every home game except only in the 1st quarter of their game vs. the Lions….
The White at Home db has the above entry. I’m curious as to what the heck the story is.[/quote]
Isn’t that the story where both teams showed up with white jerseys and the Vikes were forced to switch to their purple?[/quote]
Yup, Vikes wore white at home that year, and Lions got messed up. Vikes staff hustled over to team team’s training facility in St. Paul to fetch the purple jerseys. Is only time in the first “Purple Pants Era” they ever wore all purple.
–Ricko
[quote comment=”283972″][quote comment=”283970″][quote comment=”283969″]….Vikings: 1964 every home game except only in the 1st quarter of their game vs. the Lions….
The White at Home db has the above entry. I’m curious as to what the heck the story is.[/quote]
Isn’t that the story where both teams showed up with white jerseys and the Vikes were forced to switch to their purple?[/quote]
Yup, Vikes wore white at home that year, and Lions got messed up. Vikes staff hustled over to team team’s training facility in St. Paul to fetch the purple jerseys. Is only time in the first “Purple Pants Era” they ever wore all purple.
–Ricko[/quote]
Wish I could say I saw it on TV, but that was in days of home game blackouts.
[quote comment=”283972″][quote comment=”283970″][quote comment=”283969″]….Vikings: 1964 every home game except only in the 1st quarter of their game vs. the Lions….
The White at Home db has the above entry. I’m curious as to what the heck the story is.[/quote]
Isn’t that the story where both teams showed up with white jerseys and the Vikes were forced to switch to their purple?[/quote]
Yup, Vikes wore white at home that year, and Lions got messed up. Vikes staff hustled over to team team’s training facility in St. Paul to fetch the purple jerseys. Is only time in the first “Purple Pants Era” they ever wore all purple.
–Ricko[/quote]
Damn Ricko, I KNEW you’d have the knowledge. I don’t like citing wikipedia because of the “take it with a grain of salt” factor, but on the Vikes page, they state that in ’64 several NFL teams wore white at home so the fans could see the other team’s colored jerseys. Was that the case?
[quote comment=”283912″]Paul may not be appalled by the new Colorado jerseys, but I am. While I do not mind that team looking bad, I fear they might again start a horrible trend.
It took years for college football to undo the damage done by CU’s stripe-free black pants and the fad that followed, and I would hate to see such a travesty occur again.[/quote]
I actuallu like them. They are not too Nike-ified and the shoulder detail is unique without being ridiculous.
Would love for he buffs to darken the Gold, and perhaps incorporate an Old Gold jersey.
1930’s through 1950’s the often wore Gold jerseys and they were great.
[quote comment=”283974″][quote comment=”283972″][quote comment=”283970″][quote comment=”283969″]….Vikings: 1964 every home game except only in the 1st quarter of their game vs. the Lions….
The White at Home db has the above entry. I’m curious as to what the heck the story is.[/quote]
Isn’t that the story where both teams showed up with white jerseys and the Vikes were forced to switch to their purple?[/quote]
Yup, Vikes wore white at home that year, and Lions got messed up. Vikes staff hustled over to team team’s training facility in St. Paul to fetch the purple jerseys. Is only time in the first “Purple Pants Era” they ever wore all purple.
–Ricko[/quote]
Damn Ricko, I KNEW you’d have the knowledge. I don’t like citing wikipedia because of the “take it with a grain of salt” factor, but on the Vikes page, they state that in ’64 several NFL teams wore white at home so the fans could see the other team’s colored jerseys. Was that the case?[/quote]
Yeah, but check that amazing chart mentioned earlier today (which haven’t had the time to look over yet, sad to say). Off top of my head, besides Cowboys and Vikings, I wanna suggest that maybe Browns, Cardinals, Rams and Saints were on that list.
Ooops, Saints wore white later, as in first season of ’67, maybe. Weren’t around in ’64.
[quote comment=”283975″][quote comment=”283912″]Paul may not be appalled by the new Colorado jerseys, but I am. While I do not mind that team looking bad, I fear they might again start a horrible trend.
It took years for college football to undo the damage done by CU’s stripe-free black pants and the fad that followed, and I would hate to see such a travesty occur again.[/quote]
I actuallu like them. They are not too Nike-ified and the shoulder detail is unique without being ridiculous.
Would love for he buffs to darken the Gold, and perhaps incorporate an Old Gold jersey.
1930’s through 1950’s the often wore Gold jerseys and they were great.[/quote]
Gold jersey would be great! The biggest other change I’d like to see is getting rid of weird details on the numbers. These aren’t as bad as the tractor style numbers of the late 90s, but they’re still over-the-top.
I know that someone can answer this question… I thought that in the NFL receivers had to wear a number between 80 and 89, unless listed as an emergency quarterback. However, the Browns have Joshua Cribbs in #16 (could be qb excuse), Braylon Edwards in #17, and Donte Stallworth in #18. This in addition to Efram Hill (#5), Lance Leggett (#9), and Syndric Steptoe (#12). Granted it’s the preseason and there are obviously more receivers than available numbers right now, but still, Edwards, Cribbs, Stallworth, and Steptoe are essentially assured roster spots. I know that UniWatch readers are more observant than about anyone else around (see NFL microphone example… took me about 10 minutes to spot it!), so someone has to have this answer!
Remember Colorado in Black and SILVER?
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B&W look at unis here…
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[quote comment=”283979″]I know that someone can answer this question… I thought that in the NFL receivers had to wear a number between 80 and 89, unless listed as an emergency quarterback. However, the Browns have Joshua Cribbs in #16 (could be qb excuse), Braylon Edwards in #17, and Donte Stallworth in #18. This in addition to Efram Hill (#5), Lance Leggett (#9), and Syndric Steptoe (#12). Granted it’s the preseason and there are obviously more receivers than available numbers right now, but still, Edwards, Cribbs, Stallworth, and Steptoe are essentially assured roster spots. I know that UniWatch readers are more observant than about anyone else around (see NFL microphone example… took me about 10 minutes to spot it!), so someone has to have this answer![/quote]
NFL opened the teens to receivers link.
[quote comment=”283980″]Remember Colorado in Black and SILVER?
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B&W look at unis here…
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Gold edge on numbers and between black stripes on pants, btw.
We were discussing the other day that George Mira-era Miami used to wear kelly and light gold, as opposed to the orange and forest green of today.
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(can u tell it’s a slow Friday afternoon at my office?)
[quote comment=”283972″][quote comment=”283970″][quote comment=”283969″]….Vikings: 1964 every home game except only in the 1st quarter of their game vs. the Lions….
The White at Home db has the above entry. I’m curious as to what the heck the story is.[/quote]
Isn’t that the story where both teams showed up with white jerseys and the Vikes were forced to switch to their purple?[/quote]
Yup, Vikes wore white at home that year, and Lions got messed up. Vikes staff hustled over to team team’s training facility in St. Paul to fetch the purple jerseys. Is only time in the first “Purple Pants Era” they ever wore all purple.
–Ricko[/quote]
thats interesting, I’d never heard that story. Thanks Ricko. Would be cool to see a picture of white vs white unis.
[quote comment=”283984″][quote comment=”283972″][quote comment=”283970″][quote comment=”283969″]….Vikings: 1964 every home game except only in the 1st quarter of their game vs. the Lions….
The White at Home db has the above entry. I’m curious as to what the heck the story is.[/quote]
Isn’t that the story where both teams showed up with white jerseys and the Vikes were forced to switch to their purple?[/quote]
Yup, Vikes wore white at home that year, and Lions got messed up. Vikes staff hustled over to team team’s training facility in St. Paul to fetch the purple jerseys. Is only time in the first “Purple Pants Era” they ever wore all purple.
–Ricko[/quote]
thats interesting, I’d never heard that story. Thanks Ricko. Would be cool to see a picture of white vs white unis.[/quote]
Well, while I watch Vikings tonight perhaps I shall dig a little. Someone mentioned here that the game is featured in one of the “NFL Hidden Treasures” shows.
a note from last night’s giant game.. it seems like the giants’ northwestern striping on their road unis is arched this year. this applies to most of the team whom do not have sleeves. contrarily eli manning, who wears sleeves, has the straight, around-the-arm striping, but the rest are noticably vertically arched. last year’s road unis featured straight NW’ern striping on the sleevelss.
initially I did not like the change, but studying them for three hours they grew on me.
[quote comment=”283934″][quote comment=”283911″][quote comment=”283862″]Doubtful Pennington makes an impact this year. If the Bears and Lovie have a nutsack at all,they’ll give the ball to Kyle Orton and unleash him … assuming he’s shaved that scraggly beard!
Guy has a gun, just needs some consistent reps, instead of always having to look over his shoulder or wait for Rexy to be Rexy.[/quote]
in reality Rex has a far better arm and ability, unfortunatley he can’t figure out how to use either of those things so he’s not the better QB[/quote]
If an arm was all that it took to be a QB, Ken O’Brien would be in the Hall of Fame.[/quote]
POST OF THE DAY nominee right here.
[quote comment=”283965″]The Lions 75th patch is so big because
they want to make it absolutely clear that despite what their quality of play might indicate, they aren’t an expansion team,Matt Millen doesn’t know how to run a football organization, thank you very much…”[/quote]Fixed with [sarcasm][/sarcasm] tag.
For the record about white at home in 1964:
This was the year the NFL allowed teams to choose to wear white or dark at home. Fully half of the 14 teams decided to go with white at home: Colts, Browns, Cowboys, Rams, Vikings, Cardinals and Redskins. I guess the Lions equipment manager forgot to check to make sure the Vikes were one of the teams to wear white. So they showed up in white, too. “Uh-oh”, I guess said the refs and I guess not to delay the proceedings, decided to go on with the game, since at least the helmets and pants were different. Meanwhile, a call was put in to somebody to get the purple shirts to Metropolitan Stadium a.s.a.p. They arrived in time for the second quarter (it MAY have been the second half). The equipment guys brought them to the sidelines and the Vikes changed the jerseys right there, not in the dressing room, but on the field.
This gave the Vikes an all purple look (except for white socks). Then the rains came and for the second half, the Vikes had their all purple look soiled with mud.
A quote from Vikes head coach Norm Van Brocklin: “We looked like a bunch of Easter eggs out there!”
Yes, this was a part of NFL Films’ “Lost Tresures” series.
[quote comment=”283985″][quote comment=”283984″][quote comment=”283972″][quote comment=”283970″][quote comment=”283969″]….Vikings: 1964 every home game except only in the 1st quarter of their game vs. the Lions….
The White at Home db has the above entry. I’m curious as to what the heck the story is.[/quote]
Isn’t that the story where both teams showed up with white jerseys and the Vikes were forced to switch to their purple?[/quote]
Yup, Vikes wore white at home that year, and Lions got messed up. Vikes staff hustled over to team team’s training facility in St. Paul to fetch the purple jerseys. Is only time in the first “Purple Pants Era” they ever wore all purple.
–Ricko[/quote]
thats interesting, I’d never heard that story. Thanks Ricko. Would be cool to see a picture of white vs white unis.[/quote]
Well, while I watch Vikings tonight perhaps I shall dig a little. Someone mentioned here that the game is featured in one of the “NFL Hidden Treasures” shows.[/quote]
It may have been others but I mentioned it a month or two ago. I have the episode and will at least get some screen grabs and if I can figure how to clip off the video and upload, I’ll do that to.
Paul… looks like Pat Forde is trying to steal some of your thunder over on ESPN.com… You might have an ass or 2 to kick when you see this…
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[quote comment=”283902″]When I was playing college football (and even in high school), playing in black socks was a big deal for us too. But we were players…I didn’t know fans cared.
But I think Ohio State looks good in the black on black. And besides, it doesn’t matter what color socks they rock–if they make it to the National Championship against a SEC team, they could wear Superman’s cape and they still will get busted![/quote]
I think black on black looks best. White socks with black shoes (especially high tops) looks, how do I say it, like something my grandfather would wear. Also, black on black looks kinda old school, even though I know it’s not.
I couldn’t get a screen shot, but with about a minute left in the first quarter of the Saints Cardinals game last night, When the Saints punt you briefly see the punter wearing both a wedding band AND a sports watch right before he punts.
Brazilian soccer teams wore the CFB logo on their uniforms for the first game but were forced to give it up for the next games by the IOC. They will now wear an improvised brazilian flag, which will be pretty strange for us brazilians to see.
Tatis’ dot is still off-center as of Friday night.
Kudos to Tim Brulia and his buds! Outstanding.
timmy b beat me to the all-purple Vikings story from the “Lost Treasures” series. It’s there, with footage, on the “NFL Films: Inside the Vault Vols 1-3” DVD set.
1957 is well-chosen as a starting point, as that is the year that the league mandated that every team wear white jerseys on the road. For a few years before that, you’d have the Packers and Bears play each other, and both teams would be in dark-blue jerseys.
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Sorry. Click on “Gallery,” then on Picture 10.
That’s an amazing book, by the way. One of the biggest coffee-table books I’ve seen, with full-page photos.
Is this the only uni with the full team name?
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[quote comment=”283998″]Is this the only uni with the full team name?
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Nope…
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[quote comment=”283999″][quote comment=”283998″]Is this the only uni with the full team name?
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Nope…
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Also ’57 Cubs road…
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—Ricko
[quote comment=”284000″][quote comment=”283999″][quote comment=”283998″]Is this the only uni with the full team name?
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Also ’57 Cubs road…
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[quote comment=”283959″][quote comment=\”283881\”]USA Today article about the Ralph Lauren opening ceremony uniforms for US athletes. Ya think the polo logo is big enough?
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Why do designers hate these teams? Would it be too hard to make the uniforms pleasing to the eye? The designers should look at tradition and not making our athletes look like tools.[/quote]
I am actually a big fan of these outfits!
[quote comment=”283980″]Remember Colorado in Black and SILVER?
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B&W look at unis here…
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Wow, I have never seen those before! Much better than their hideous aqua blue period!
Love the horns!
[quote comment=”284002″][quote comment=”283959″][quote comment=\”283881\”]USA Today article about the Ralph Lauren opening ceremony uniforms for US athletes. Ya think the polo logo is big enough?
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Why do designers hate these teams? Would it be too hard to make the uniforms pleasing to the eye? The designers should look at tradition and not making our athletes look like tools.[/quote]
I am actually a big fan of these outfits![/quote]
Me, too, except for two logos on the front. Seems to me it would have be classier (at least would have showed a little restraint from self-promotion) to put U.S. logo on left breast pocket where it belongs and Polo logo somewhere else…at base of right sleeve near cuff or on right bicept, for example (I think origin of traditional left-chest placement of logo has to do with being over the heart).
am not kidding – the Olympic team from Bermuda just made their way in the parade of nations wearing (but of course) BERMUDA shorts. uh-mazing. sort of.
I have no idea if this has been mentioned, but I had heard that there is a lot of significance to the USA logo for these 2008 Summer games.
Here is the logo:
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Any onw know what significance it has> I had heard it resembles a Chinese character or something… i could be way off though.
Any help on this would be appreciated.
[quote comment=”284007″]I have no idea if this has been mentioned, but I had heard that there is a lot of significance to the USA logo for these 2008 Summer games.
Here is the logo:
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Any onw know what significance it has> I had heard it resembles a Chinese character or something… i could be way off though.
Any help on this would be appreciated.[/quote]
Well, here’s one theory…(including ref. to actual origin…
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[quote comment=”284008″][quote comment=”284007″]I have no idea if this has been mentioned, but I had heard that there is a lot of significance to the USA logo for these 2008 Summer games.
Here is the logo:
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Any onw know what significance it has> I had heard it resembles a Chinese character or something… i could be way off though.
Any help on this would be appreciated.[/quote]
Well, here’s one theory…(including ref. to actual origin…
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Sorry…thought this was on that page…
“The official logo for the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games depicts a Chinese seal inscribed with the character ‘jing’ (from the word Beijing), altered slightly to resemble a dancing figure… Or at least that is how the official story goes.”
US Olympic logo looks like the US Air Force’s logo… does this bode well for our basketball team?
[quote comment=”283996″]Kudos to Tim Brulia and his buds! Outstanding.
timmy b beat me to the all-purple Vikings story from the “Lost Treasures” series. It’s there, with footage, on the “NFL Films: Inside the Vault Vols 1-3” DVD set.
1957 is well-chosen as a starting point, as that is the year that the league mandated that every team wear white jerseys on the road. For a few years before that, you’d have the Packers and Bears play each other, and both teams would be in dark-blue jerseys.
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Timothy, are you sure about that DVD set? I own it and have been going through it THe first DVD 1962-65, the second is strictly AFL and the third is after merger. I’m not seeing the footage on the all-purple
Kek, that was me. My mistake. It’s on a different DVD. I’ll verify and come back.
[quote comment=”284007″]I have no idea if this has been mentioned, but I had heard that there is a lot of significance to the USA logo for these 2008 Summer games.
Here is the logo:
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Any onw know what significance it has> I had heard it resembles a Chinese character or something… i could be way off though.
Any help on this would be appreciated.[/quote]
To kind of answer my own question, they just said on the Opening Ceremony Broadcast that over 16,000 marriage licenses were applied for today in Beijing, not only because of the opening of the Olympics, but because of 8-8-08. Numerology is very important in the Chinese culture, and the number 8 means prosperity. If I had to guess, I would say that the USA logo went off of that to create their logo which does look like an “8”.
The all-purple incident is on the DVD “Legends of Autumn Vol II: The Men Who Played The Game.” It’s in the extras; the “Lost Treasures” episode called “The Players.” I just watched it; it’s in chapter 6.
Sorry for the earlier bad information.
[quote comment=”284014″]The all-purple incident is on the DVD “Legends of Autumn Vol II: The Men Who Played The Game.” It’s in the extras; the “Lost Treasures” episode called “The Players.” I just watched it; it’s in chapter 6.
Sorry for the earlier bad information.[/quote]
No prob Tom, as this discussion was going on today at work I was thinking of checking this set on my own.
I took somc caps of some good stuff but they didn’t come out. Inside the Vault is a goldmine. Great shots of refs in stirrups and using white flags and shooting final guns, awesome 60s era pro bowl unis (classic, understated with no wordmarks or helmet logos, just blue and red), past stadia like the Steelers playing at Pitt Stadium. I could go on and on.
Random question but does anybody know why Dressed to the Nines doesn’t list alternate uniforms?
Gene Coleman’s been wearing short shorts forever….almost as long as ‘Stros assistant trainer Rex Jones has sported the “Guy from Mythbusters” mustache.
Here’s my uni pet peeve this year..saw the Brownies on TV and they still wear those ugly brown socks with their white unis. The white sock with brown/orange stripes is sooo traditional—goes back forever!!!The brown socks ruins the whole look…
I assume this has already been covered, but the right-shoulder Captain’s patch must be officially retired… nowhere to be found on Matt Hasselbeck in Saturday’s game.
Cool Seahawks uni site I just stumbled upon: link
…states that, “The green dot has the NFL logo and a lightning bolt added to it.” link
erp, I meant FRIDAY… link