Good morning! Hope everyone had a good weekend and that you have your eclipse glasses ready for this afternoon.
Now then: During spring training, I wrote several times about the how the Cardinals and Phillies were having trouble with their grey jerseys not matching their grey pants. Since they were the only two teams wearing grey jerseys for spring training road games (everyone else was using softball tops), we couldn’t be sure how widespread this problem would turn out to be. But as I wrote at the time, “We’ll probably see more of this when the regular season begins and more teams start wearing their full road greys.”
And sure enough, that’s what’s happening. While I haven’t inventoried every single team’s road greys, I’ve seen enough to know that this is a widespread problem that adds yet another dimension to the Great Nike/MLB Fiasco of 2024.
The mismatched greys are sometimes very obvious to see and sometimes more subtle. The extent of the visible mismatch can vary depending on the lighting and the camera angle. A big part of the problem, in addition to the different color shades, is that the jerseys seem to give off a bit of a blue-green sheen that the pants don’t have. Tigers outfielder Mark Canha captured the situation nicely in this article, where he gave the following quote:
“You’ll notice when we play today, the grey in our tops is not really the same as the grey on the pants. It doesn’t match — this [jersey] is kind of a shiny grey, and the grey on the pants is kind of dull. They just look like different colors, slightly.”
Just to be clear: The jersey fabric has always been different from the pants fabric (well, at least in recent decades). But the old different-from-the-pants jersey fabric didn’t have the sheen. Also, as reported in my recent interview with an employee of the factory that makes the uniforms, Nike has apparently been relaxing its usual color standards for grey fabric.
In addition, as has been amply documented, the new jerseys seem to show sweat more readily than the old ones did, so that further contributes to the jersey/pants mismatch.
Here are the teams that I’ve seen exhibiting this problem so far this season. The mismatch is more evident in some pics than in others (and, in some cases, more evident in the raw image file than in the uploaded/processed version), but it’s there. All pics are from the regular season, not from spring training. Here we go:
Angels
The Angels road grey tops don’t match the road grey pants pic.twitter.com/1HKmQ4sUAk
— Mike Ryan (Ruiz) (@MichaelRyanRuiz) March 28, 2024
Cardinals
Dodgers
Blue-grey on top, gray-grey on the bottom. @MLB @Dodgers https://t.co/zb8Wipok6f
— Fanatics Sucks (@FanaticsSucks) April 5, 2024
Mets
Nationals
These Nationals jerseys and pants are two different colors. pic.twitter.com/aUoMII2gy3
— Joe Tutino (@JTutino) March 31, 2024
Derek Law looks like he went shopping at the Uniform Depot before the #Nats game hoping to find anything that works.
How is this the big leagues? pic.twitter.com/iyzZQ9STUu
— Ryan Eades (@ryan2499) March 30, 2024
what color are those tops?
what color are those bottoms? pic.twitter.com/EcbB5rPnmi— Codify (@CodifyBaseball) March 30, 2024
Phillies
Pirates
Reds
Tigers
@UniWatch depending on lighting and sun, sometimes the #Tigers jersey’s look sort of blue. #RepDetroit pic.twitter.com/oUDmVmYxxf
— (@bparsons22) April 4, 2024
Twins
Anyone else notice that the new jersey tops don’t match the pants?! Two shades of gray! @Twins @TerritoryTwins pic.twitter.com/ts48dfsWyK
— Scott Ambrosier (@sjamn14) March 30, 2024
White Sox
Yankees
oh damn, Yankees roads are two different colors too https://t.co/HTSWzVLsoC pic.twitter.com/EqC9SDgsjF
— Liz Jackson (@elizejackson) March 31, 2024
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That’s what I have so far. If you spot any additional teams with this problem (or if you have better photos than the ones I’ve posted here), you know what to do. I’ll update this post as additional examples come in.
That shirt is awesome! Great job.
The SF Giants first road game looked pretty mis-matched on the MLB.tv app then I was watching the game, but going back through the photos, they don’t look so bad. The app disables screen shots, so I never could get anything.
I second that. If you go back and look at Kyle Harrison’s start against the Padres (2nd game of the year), it’s obvious.
I thought the Giants road uniforms matched up pretty well. Any mismatch, IMO, was probably due more to the sweat issue than the fabric dyes not matching.
I’m not sure which was the worst Nike screw up? These new baseball jerseys, or the old sweatbox football jerseys from when they took over the NFL uniforms?
I mean, this is just embarrassing at this point. When do they call it a day, and go back to the old template???
When they see that sales are down badly. Profits over pride.
I think the complete radio silence from Nike has made it that much worse.
This reminds me of a kid who doesn’t own a suit, but does have a pair of blue pants and a blue blazer, so he wears them together to his eighth grade semi formal dance in the school cafeteria.
The PurpWalk Nevermore shirt is brilliant as well as beautiful. However, being born in Cleveland and a Browns fan, I could never put that on. You understand my conundrum.
Kudos to Bryan on an awesome design!
I wonder if teams will start abandoning their gray tops in favor of the softball look—gray pants with a colored top.
That’s not a bad idea, actually.
Welcome back Mike!
Thanks! Happy to be doing this again, even just for a little bit.
Good News! Welcome Back!
If your Question Of The Week feature also returns…even better news!
Ditto
Slightly unrelated, but I was listening to the Dodgers/Cubs game on MLB TV yesterday before the rain delay. They were showing puddles forming on the on deck circles and the announcers were expressing the opinion that it looked so much better when they had the Cubs and opposing teams logos as the circles instead of the corporate sponsor. Despite a lot of knee bending to the sponsor (We love you guys, you do a great job, etc), it was still nice to hear the wistful tone of “maybe selling out every square inch has its downsides after all.”
I’ve been looking at photos of Red Sox games, and the colors look pretty well-matched. But the difference in sheen is noticeable nonetheless.
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That Purp Walk t-shirt is so nice! With the tiny crabs, the reference to the Baltimore ball park in the railing on top of all the things mentioned. Really a design classic and the Ravens should take a look at this raven for a team logo.
The mismatched grays give me Dallas Cowboys pants vibes
Anyone see the Houston Roughnecks coach still wearing his USFL logo’d hat in his sideline interview yesterday?
You can add the Pittsburgh Pirates to the grAy debacle.
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Big big props to Bryan’s design for this year’s Purp Walk. One designer to another, this is just fantastic. It evokes so much about Baltimore, Paul’s departure from Uni Watch, and the history of the site’s previous and current logo elements. It’s pretty bad-ass.
And Mike, welcome back!
The Nationals road greys are the most absurd looking in sports. I mean first off, the previous road greys were great. They matched the rest of the aesthetic with the cursive. This new uniform, you have the mis-matched pants, the terrible looking jersey that’s a totally different vibe than the rest. I just don’t know what they were thinking? IDK if I’ve ever seen a team eff up a uniform so badly.
Nike is really a travesty. From a shoe company to a multi-billion multi-faceted corporation with apparel of all types. I miss the days in MLB:
1. When teams, for the most part (excluding of course, the Dodgers, Yankees, Expos, etc.) wore pullovers
2. The bright and colorful uniforms of the 1970s-mid 1980s
3. Stirrups and sanitaries. Those teams that wore colored sanitaries were very cool (A’s, Padres, Giants)
4. Pants that went down to mid-calf. Players that go high-cuffed now have the pants WAY too high, or the pajama pants are just yuck
5. Team were not bound to one specific uniform manufacturer, and you had teams going with companies such as Sand-Knit (excellent quality), Wilson, Rawlings, Spalding, Decente, etc.
The stupid narrow button placket would not be an issue if more teams re-adopted pullover style jerseys, which, as an ex-baseball player from the 1980s, the pullovers were MUCH more functional and comfortable. Now, about those mis-matched colors, Nike has a history (NFL) of not handling colors correctly, let the teams contract with whomever they wish….
Not disagreeing with you but I bet Nike (or any manufacturer) would prefer to make pullovers as they’re much simpler to design and produce. Clearly MLB and/or the individual teams do not want them.
Maybe Nike can put some of that “sheen” on their NFL pants for teams with gold or silver pants to make them look more, you know, gold and silver?
The Purp Walk shirt is brilliant. Outstanding work by the artist. The inclusion of the magnifying glass, “purple who get it”, “never more” are great, and the raven holding the stirrup is the chef’s kiss.
Just outstanding.
Mariners don’t have this problem as they don’t have a road gray top anymore. It’s either Dark Blue or “Northwest Green”. However, the pants they are wearing seem to be a much bluer shade of grey than before.
Maybe we refer to this Nike kerfuffle with mismatched greys as (with apologies to Procol Harum)
“A Whiter Shade Of Gray”
The Padres’ *tans* also mismatch like the greys of other teams. It was obvious in the sun in SF at the start of that series. The tops are almost as shiny as satin, the pants are matte.
Sub-headline: 30 shades of grey…or is it 60?
I didn’t really notice the first time I saw the Pirates grays in the sunlight. But in lower light, it’s so obvious. I also HATE the shininess of the tops, compared to the pants. And the bunching around the sleeves…and the bunching around the NOBs. They’re only slightly better than the beer league softball uniform I have in my closet from 20 years ago.
Watching every site that allows comments absorb this article and then blame Fanatics almost entirely for this mess is beyond frustrating. This is _precisely_ how Nike escapes blame year in and year out for their deep-rooted ineptitude.