By Phil Hecken, with Jimmer Vilk
Good morning and Happy Saturday, Uni Watchers. I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving and you’re enjoying the holiday weekend so far.
A couple weeks ago, Jimmer and I did a post on our proposals for NFC TV number “improvements,” (click here). The intro to that article explains the premise, but basically “For the purposes of this piece, we decided to review the NFC (AFC soon!) to see which teams have ‘adequate’ or good TV numbers, and which could be improved. We’ve also assumed that TV numbers must appear somewhere on the uniform. Due to shrinking sleeve lengths and the prominence of the maker’s mark on the sleeve cap, it will sometimes be necessary to suggest TV numbers in locations other than the sleeve or shoulder. In at least one instance (in the AFC), I will suggest removing the swoosh from the sleeve and moving it to the front of the jersey.” We get to that today. Last time, I had the “first” word, but today Jim’s going to go first. Here we go…
JV: They’re fine as is.
PH: Yep. Throwbacks are good too.
JV: The TVs are too small and the sleeve logo is ridiculously small. Lose it and put larger TVs there.
JV: Elvis on the helmet is enough. Do the same as Miami with the TVs.
PH: One of the few teams that doesn’t have TVs. So, it makes sense to add them to the sleeve (and I agree with Jimmer — ditch the sleeve logo to do so).
JV: They’re… can’t say fine… but they’re not in need of changing.
PH: There’s nothing wrong with the TVs. The same cannot be said for the rest of the uni.
JV: I don’t have a problem with what they have.
PH: Yep, we’re good here.
JV: Put TVs in the sleeve stripes.
PH: Another team without TVs. Unlike Jim, I wouldn’t force them on the sleeve. I don’t really think the team needs them, but if they must have them, put ’em on the shoulders, like they did with the prior CR set.
JV: Either move the TVs to the helmet or leave well enough alone. I’m fine with either.
PH: Their TVs are fine on the shoulder. As much as I like helmet numbers, they really don’t need them.
JV: Don’t mess, but feel free to keep the CR jersey for all home games. Alternatively, move the swoosh and put TVs on the sleeve stripes.
PH: Because the MOTB causes almost every player’s classic sleeve stripe design to be truncated, I’d actually advocate for moving the swoosh to the jersey and regaining full sleeve stripes (just like Iowa does). I know that has nothing to do with TVs (which are fine), but I hate the sleeve cap design. Fix that.
JV: Houston – We don’t have a problem.
PH: They’re a little scrunched, particularly on the down linemen. There’s room on the shoulders — I’d move them up there.
JV: I wouldn’t dream of messing around with this classic.
PH: The Colts have the same problem as Houston. With the swoosh on the sleeve cap, the TVs are too small and tight. However, with the shoulder loops, you can’t move them to the top of the jersey. But…they do have some pretty big helmet numbers, so I’m ok with their setup.
JV: Just make the TVs a little bigger.
PH: These are just fine.
JV: The TVs need to get off the shoulder and move to the hip.
PH: Tennessee’s problem isn’t the TVs…it’s the stupid “sword” yoke. And the fonts. And a lot of other stuff too. But that’s for another day.
JV: Move them down to the sleeve caps.
JV: Don’t touch the best jersey in the league.
PH: Jerseys are fine (but not the best in the league), but they need to remove the Native American iconography on the hat. One could put TVs there, but I’d rather they just add the interlocking KC.
JV: Bring back black helmet #s, and add them to the hips as well.
PH: They don’t need them on the hips, but I’d like them to use black numbers on the helmets as well.
JV: Just leave them alone, baby.
PH: Agreed. They are perfect.
And there you have it — the end of the TV numbers “suggestions”. These may not be ideal solutions (in some cases, it might just be best for teams to eliminate TV numbers altogether, but that’s not an option for this exercise). What do you think? Should “hip” TV numbers come back? Should more NFL teams use helmet TV numbers? Do teams even need TV numbers at all? Love to hear your thoughts and suggestions.
Pittsburgh Steelers Logo Update
I get many concepts sent to me (keep ’em coming!), including the above “logo update” you see for the Pittsburgh Steelers. However, in what is most definitely a first, our featured artist Jordan Grimes has not only updated the logo, but he’s given a step-by-step tutorial, complete with a video, showing his thought process. I’m sure many of you are thinking “but the Steelers’ logo is perfect” — and I wouldn’t disagree — but Jordan has made a fantastic case for his proposal. Let me turn it over to him now.
Steelers Logo Update
by Jordan Grimes
Design critique never stops for me. So when I kept seeing the Pittsburgh Steelers logo used on T.V. and online it made me question why the logo has not been simplified.
An 8-letter work set in one half of a circle? We can do better.
The Pittsburgh Steelers logo is iconic, unique, and stable enough for an update for the future. Follow me on my logo update journey for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Simplify the Pittsburgh Steelers logo so it’s more legible.
Current logo history and examples
Viewing the logo in multiple sizes shows legibility in the big areas, but once it gets smaller the letterforms start to bleed together and become illegible.
Logo simplification evolution
By simplifying the color and winnowing down to just an “s” this mark is getting somewhere.
“S” Evolution & Logotype
This inspiration for this logotype were the three stars in the primary Steelers logo.
The cross bars of the “E” are actually those same stars but cut in half. With that treatment it was fitting to bring the three star colors over to the three “E”s in the logotype.
Logo at scale
Guess The Game…
from the scoreboard
Today’s scoreboard comes from John Benal.
The premise of the game (GTGFTS) is simple: I’ll post a scoreboard and you guys simply identify the game depicted. In the past, I don’t know if I’ve ever completely stumped you (some are easier than others).
Here’s the Scoreboard. In the comments below, try to identify the game (date & location, as well as final score). If anything noteworthy occurred during the game, please add that in (and if you were AT the game, well bonus points for you!):
Please continue sending these in! You’re welcome to send me any scoreboard photos (with answers please), and I’ll keep running them.
Uni Tweet of the Day
The Splinter was always splendid!
Very very young Ted Williams wearing a San Diego uniform. Year is 1936 if I’m not mistaken pic.twitter.com/82hSAcIU4R
— BaseballHistoryNut (@nut_history) November 23, 2021
And finally… that’s going to to it for today. Sorry there was no ticker, but Anthony has the holiday weekend off. I’ll have a full ticker tomorrow.
Hope everyone had a safe and good Thanksgiving, with plenty of leftovers to tide you through! I’ll be back with the SMUW Crew tomorrow as we put a bow on the regular season for College football, with lots and lots of good (and hopefully good looking) rivalry games. Catch you then.