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Inside The Steelers Throwback Jersey


By Phil Hecken

Saturdays in the fall are usually reserved for College Football here on Uni Watch, and with good reason — the colleges play on Saturday. But with Sunday Morning Uni Watch reviewing the Saturday action, and teams churning out new uniforms at an alarming clip…I’m going to turn today into NFL Saturday. And we have an extra special day today, because the Pittsburgh Steelers will be throwing back to these “1934” uniforms when they face the Washington football club tomorrow. You can see more photos from the fashion shoot this week here. (Why is “1934” in quotes? You’ll just have to read on.)

But that’s not just why today is special.

It’s a really special day because we have a post authored by one of the foremost football historians out there, Tim Brulia, and Tim was ably assisted in his research by three of the best out there, Rob Holecko, Bill Schaefer (those three form the “Gridiron Uniform Database” triumvirate), and BucTracker Jerry Wolper. So, without further ado, please let me now turn this over to Tim, as he takes you…

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Inside The Steelers Throwback Jersey
by Tim Brulia

Earlier this year the Pittsburgh Steelers unveiled a new throwback jersey for this season that they will debut tomorrow against the Washington Redskins. It will be replacing the 1962 style that they have worn since 2007. In 1994, for the NFL’s 75th Anniversary, the Steelers wore a throwback to the 1933 uniform that featured the city of Pittsburgh’s city seal. At the unveiling of the new throwback, the Steelers stated that this throwback would hearken back to the 1934 season. The design, by anyone’s standards, is pretty wild. It features yellow and black stripes throughout, with the players’ numbers in black set inside a white rectangle per each digit surrounded by a think black outline. The name on back (NOB) is in black set inside a yellow nameplate.


The throwback’s most well known visual comes from the team photo of the 1934 Pittsburgh Pirates, what the team was called before changing their name to the Steelers in 1940.

As a founder of the Gridiron Uniform Database, and as one who claims himself as a Steeler fan, I take particular interest in the Steelers’ uniform history. About six or seven years ago, when I began my original research into the team’s uniform history, I utilized the facilities of the Pennsylvania State Library in Harrisburg and dug into the microfilm collection of Pittsburgh newspapers. To update those findings with the new 2012 throwback, I decided to make another trip the PA State Library a few days ago to confirm what I found. I searched the archives of the three Pittsburgh daily newspapers: The Pittsburgh Press, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and Pittsburgh Sun-Telegraph. For extra measure, I also searched the archives of the three daily Philadelphia papers from 1933 and 1934, the Philadelphia Inquirer, The (Philadelphia) Bulletin and the Philadelphia Record. Specifically, I wanted to nail down exactly when the Pirates wore the striped (or “prisoner”, “convict”, “bumblebee”) jerseys purported to be from 1934 in an actual game. I wasn’t able to make photos from the microfilm on this trip, and the quality of online photos you see linked in the following paragraphs isn’t indicative of the photos that I was able to view at the library. As with all of our research at The Gridiron Uniform Database, we are always open to further refinement with new documentation, but what we have presented here is what we believe to be fact, to the extent that we have been able to prove within our research.


Here are the results:



Photographs were found for four of the five Pirates home games that season. The game without a pic was the 10/11 game against the Cincinnati Reds. The first four games (including this Sept. 20 game against the Giants) were played under the portable lights at Forbes Field, because up until November 7th, the Pirates could not play at home on Sunday due to Pennsylvania’s blue laws. Each of the three night games discovered clearly showed the Pirates in the city seal jerseys. For the last home game in ’33, a Sunday afternoon game played on 11/12 against the Brooklyn Dodgers, the Pirates DID WEAR the bumblebee jerseys. Google archives has the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (as well as the Pittsburgh Press) in its online archives. There was no photo in the 11/13 Press from the game, but there was a photo of game action in the P-G. While the pic of the Google archive is too dark to tell, the microfilm image at the state library does show the evidence of horizontal stripes on the sleeves. The city seal jersey only has two vertical grip strips on the sleeves. The confirming evidence comes from a beautiful shot found on page 23 of the 11/13/33 edition of the city’s third daily at the time, the Sun-Telegraph. There, two Pirates are clearly seen in the prisoner jersey and the stripes clearly extend on the players’ jersey backs. While not clearly visible, there is no evidence at all of the players numbers inside of white blocks on the jersey fronts. As for away games, I have been able to gather evidence from three of those games, 10/29 at Boston (courtesy Boston Herald), 11/19 at Philadelphia (courtesy of the Phila. Inquirer, Bulletin and Record) and 12/3 at New York (courtesy New York Times and via the nicely colorized photo that recently made its rounds on Uni Watch and which is seen above). I have not been able to find any photos from the 10/15 game at Green Bay, 10/22 game at Cincinnati or the 11/5 game at Brooklyn. So in conclusion, of the 11 games the Bucs played in 1933, we have documentation of seven games: six games in the city seal jersey, and one game in the striped/convict jersey. There are four games that we have no confirmation of what was worn.



The Pirates played six home games in 1934. We found photographic evidence of what jerseys they wore for four games, the missing game being the two Wednesday nighters; ironically against the NFL’s two best teams, 10/3 against the Giants and 10/10 against the Bears. In the 9/9 home opener against the Cincinnati Reds, the Pirates wore a plain yellow jersey. Likewise for the 9/16 game against the Boston Redskins, the Bucs wore a plain yellow jersey. For the 9/26 Wednesday night game with the Eagles, the Pirates sported a black jersey with a thin batch of yellow northwestern stripes positioned near the elbow. For the last home game (11/18) against Brooklyn, the Bucs wore yellow jerseys, but this set of yellow jerseys featured larger black NW stripes on the sleeves. As for the road games, I was able to gather photographic information from the following games: The Bucs wore black jerseys with yellow NW stripes 10/7 in Philly (courtesy of Phila Inquirer and Record), 10/14 in Boston, they wore plain yellow (courtesy Boston Globe), 10/21 in New York, while there is a photo of game action against the Giants in the New York Times, the jersey is too dark to tell what the Pirates wore, 11/4 at Detroit, the Bucs wore black jerseys with yellow NW stripes (courtesy Detroit Free Press) and for the 11/11 game at St. Louis, the Pirates wore black jerseys with the yellow NW sleeve stripes (courtesy St. Louis Post-Dispatch). As of now, there was one road game that I have no info for, the 10/28 game at Brooklyn. So for ’34, of the 12 games the Pirates played, we have confirmation of 8 games: Three games in the plain yellow jerseys, one game in yellow jerseys with large black NW sleeve stripes, and four games in black jerseys with small yellow NW sleeve stripes. There are four games that the exact combo that they wore is unknown, however, it seems unlikely that they would have worn either the jersey with the city seal that they wore in 1933, or the bumblebee/convict jersey from the team photo that the current throwback is based on.


For some games, in the day of the game edition of the newspapers, the paper would usually run a publicity photo of a couple players of the opponent. One paper, the Philladelphia Record, ran a series of three individual pub shots of Pirate players on page (S)7 in its 10/7/34 edition. One player, Warren Heller, was clearly posed in his “convict” jersey. His number in the pic, 34, was clearly black, with the 3 and the 4 inside of YELLOW blocks superimposed over the black and yellow stripes! This football card of Heller is likely redone from the publicity photo found in the Record.

Our Conclusion:

In spite of all of the publicity of the throwback jersey and the labeling of it as from 1934 by the Steelers, it seems to be based on ONE photograph, the team photo shot supposedly from 1934, and perhaps some surviving posed publicity photos taken before the season. I would surmise that the team picture is indeed from 1934, taken likely before the season started. For whatever reason, the Bucs decided to go with rather generic yellow jerseys and black jerseys for gamewear in 1934. From all of the research we have done of the Pirates for these two seasons, we can confirm only ONE time that the throwback jersey was worn, the 11/12/1933 encounter with Shipwreck Kelly’s Brooklyn Dodgers who, for the record, won 32-0.

Unless the Steelers know something we do not know, this particular game is the only known game that the stripes saw action in a competitive game. I even dug through a rather surprisingly hyped game the Pirates played a week after the 1934 season closed, a charity game played against local collegiate All-Stars, and even there the Buccos wore the blacks they wore in ’34.


As for the current throwback, this being 2012, an NOB is added, the Nike swoosh is present and perhaps for the sake of clarity, the numbers are in white blocks as opposed to the yellow blocks that our research has indicated were actually worn on the original jerseys. Just yesterday however, the Steelers posted this picture on their Facebook page that apparently shows an authentic prisoner jersey with white number blocks that is on display at the team’s office at Heinz Field. Part of the caption that specifically mentions the uniform says, ‘Check out an authentic 1934 uniform that is on display in the [Steelers] offices in Heinz Field.” Earlier when Heinz Field was relatively new, the Steelers had a jersey on display in the concourse that was in the style of the prisoner jersey, but the striping was black and white as opposed to black and yellow. While the homage to these jerseys is laudable, it is a little disappointing personally that the Steelers apparently did not research this style as thoroughly as they could and should have, at least as far as when the uniform actually saw game action. If they could have called them “1933-1934 vintage” jerseys, I could live with that. Perhaps they just wanted to identify them as simply being from 1934 both because of the team photo and because of the 1994 throwbacks also being from the 1933 season. Or maybe the organization simply wasn’t aware how specifically inaccurate they were about what year the jersey was worn. That they were from a “1934 preseason team photo” was good enough to call them “1934” jerseys in their book. If indeed the jersey on display is of 1933 and 1934 vintage, then it appears that we seem to have a discrepancy as to whether or not the jersey had black and white stripes (which now seems to be fully discounted by all), or black and yellow stripes with numbers in yellow squares, or black and yellow stripes with numbers in white squares. If it can be confirmed that this is indeed a truly authentic jersey in display at the Steeler office, then the GUD will adjust its database accordingly. If not, we will stand by the Warren Heller photo as the correct convict jersey worn only in a game in 1933 against the Dodgers, yet in 1934 in the team photo and various publicity photos.

In any event, to publicly portray them as jerseys that were worn specifically during the 1934 season, we believe to be factually in err. Historical inaccuracies notwithstanding, these jerseys are sure to be an eye-popper when the Steelers take the field wearing them tomorrow!

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Thanks Tim (and Rob, Bill & Jerry)! Tremendous job. And quite a fine bit of research there lads — I’m smell a “I’m Still Calling Them the ’34 Pirates” tee shirt in the offing. Readers, what say you?

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50 Years Ago This Week

50 Years Ago…This Weekend

Last year, Rick Pearson took us “back in time” to bring us his look at the featured television college football match-up from 50 years ago. (If you’re not familiar with it, this was the inaugural post of “50 Years Ago” from last year — after that, it became a recurring feature on UW for the remainder of the season). Last year, Rick looked at the 1961 season, and fortunately for us, he “uni tracked” the games from 1962 as well, documenting the game via his “kid cards”. Each week this fall, he’ll do the same, again.


62 Wk 7 Card

Oct. 27, 1962…Ohio State 14, Wisconsin 7 at Columbus on CBS

The Big Ten was big time in 1962, and Saturday’s only games for the next few weeks will reflect that. … This week, we saw Wisconsin travel to Ohio State, with future NFL Hall of Fame WR Paul Warfield as a Buckeye running back on account of Woody Hayes didn’t think much of throwing the ball: “Three things can happen on a forward pass, and two of them are bad” (I believe it was he who said that). … Most noteworthy, uni-wise, were the helmets. Ohio State chose exterior padding (here’s the MacGregor version of same). … Wisconsin had their big Scrabble “W”. … Warfield, of course, went on to the Browns, the Dolphins and, after time in the WFL, back to the Browns in time wear the orange pants. … Richter had a fine career as a TE and punter with the Redskins. … After a time with Oscar Meyer, served as Wisconsin’s Athletic Director for 14 years.

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Thanks Rick! Great job with that as always. And way to work the Wienermobile into that writeup, too! Apparently that vehicle (or a replacement?) is still making the rounds about the country. Interestingly, while searching for something else, I landed upon this track-the-wienermobile weblog. In fact, there is actually a Hotdogger Blog detailing life inside the “Wienermobile”. Interesting that the website owner(s) spells “weiner” wrong…however, I’m sure Jim “I like catsup on my weiner” Vilk approves.

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“Benchies” first appeared at U-W in 2008, and has been a Saturday & Sunday feature here for the past two years.

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Hope he isn’t planning on taking the bus in that costume…

10-27-12 d-Oz costume

Click to enlarge

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New ‘stros logo…


Little by little the Astros are showing off their uniform, although this one was more of an accident (or was it)? Yesterday, this photo was tweeted (here is a full-size shot of just the shirt).

Actually, the Creamer board had the first scoop on the new logo, with a pretty interesting writeup. That was followed shortly by an update confirming the “beveled” nature of the logo.

It’s not much to go off in terms of what the new uni will look like (I’m still hoping for the full 1965 shooting star — rumors persist that the font will be the same as the 1965 uniform, but without the actual shooting star graphic). As far as the logo — I’m excited (because it means they’re probably definitely throwing back or harking back in some way), but it’s nothing to write home about … yet. But an orange star with a white “H” on a blue field may indicate blue caps. Which would be sweet.

Maybe the Astros are getting screwed by MLB and Selig by having to move to the AL (and causing at least one interplague series for every set of series played), but at least they will look good. Fingers crossed.

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all sport uni tweaks

Uni Tweaks Concepts

We have another new set of tweaks, er…concepts today. After discussion with a number of readers, it’s probably more apropos to call most of the reader submissions “concepts” rather than tweaks. So that’s that.

So if you’ve concept for any sport, or just a tweak or wholesale revision, send them my way.

Please do try to keep your descriptions to ~50 words (give or take) per image — if you have three uniform concepts in one image, then obviously, you can go a little over, but no novels, OK? OK!. You guys have usually been good with keeping the descriptions pretty short, and I thank you for that.

Like the colorizations, I’m going to run these as inline pics — click on each one to enlarge.

And so, lets begin:


astros - Greg Seher

First up is Greg Seher, who has an entire set of the MLB, but I’m just going to post one — the rest are directly linked to his blog:

Phil, thanks for posting my NFL concepts earlier this year, it was funny to see the website with the images suddenly get tons of hits once you posted the link. So I’m back now with a complete league wide uniform / logo set for baseball. Similar to my NFL set, not every team is changing, but its comprehensive set and league wide, since in a lot of ways what makes a good uniform is that it is recognizable compared to the others in the league.

Link to my blog

Greg Seher

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Next up is Glenn Simpkins with two diamond and one gridiron concepts:


Some more Uni tweaks and concepts to share with you.

FauxBack - Glenn Simpkins

70’s Rockies & the set of uniforms that I’d like the SF Giants to wear. (Bring back the round patch on the grey jerseys!):

SFGiants4Jerseys - Glenn Simpkins

HoustonTexansHelmet - Glenn Simpkins

The Houston Texans ought to make their helmet more symmetrical, like so:

Glenn Simpkins


We close with a logo from KC Tyler for the Big XII:

Big12logo - KC Tyler


Just little design I did, big 12 need something new for real.

KC Tyler

And that’s it for today. Back with more next time.

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Stirrup Friday

Stirrup Fridays…

Because we love the stirrup here at Uni Watch, this section is devoted to those of us who sport the beautiful hose on Fridays — a trend popularized many years ago by Robert P. Marshall, III. For many of us, it’s become a bit of an obsession, but a harmless one — a reflection of our times. Where we once had Friday ties, which has been replaced by Casual Friday — we now have Stirrup Fridays. It’s an endearingly simple concept — no matter where you work (or even if you don’t) — break out a fresh pair of rups to compliment (or clash with) your Friday attire.

So, in the order in which they were received (and unfortunately for our first submitter, they weren’t good luck) … here we go (click on each thumbnail for a glorious, full size image):

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Em Hunt - Cardinals

Em Hunt:


I’m a Cardinals fan through and through. Certainly you’re receiving several photos of the readership wearing these fine things this week, but here, have another.

I work in a highly visible job and have the type of bosses who allow me to blouse out some pants and spend my day displaying my Cardinal pride (it helps to be located in the heart of Cardinal country.)

Hoping for 12 in 12!

Em Hunt

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Max Weintraub - 1967 Senators

Max Weintraub:


what goes better with a DIY Senators t-shirt than stirrups to commemorate the 1967 Sens!

DC Baseball 2013!
Max Weintraub

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James Poisso - Halloween Rups

James Poisso:


Today’s stirrups are my Halloween stirrups.

Wearing them today as I will be wearing different stirrups on All Hallow’s Eve.

James Poisso

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Sooners - Yogi Combs

Yogi Combs:


A Robert Marshall special in honor of the impending Sooners victory over the visiting Irish tomorrow!

Yogi Combs

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Ben Traxel - Tigers

Ben Traxel:


Tigers need all the help they can get.


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John Kimmerlein - "Tigers"

John K.:


Trying to support the Tigers with my stirrup selection this week. It’s not a direct match, but close enough to what they wore at least once sometime in the last 100 years. Plenty of others have over time, also: I think that RPM has listed them variously as the Homestead Grays, Cleveland Naps, and old-time Yankees.

John K

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Coach King - 08Cubs

Coach King:


My first foray into Stirrup Friday ”“ I went with the 1908 Cubs. I just wish the cut was a 7 inch opening. The cut barely gets above the lip of my shoe.

Coach King

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And that ends today’s look at Stirrup Friday — all of you who participate, send me your pics and a brief (~50 words) description of their relevance, and I’ll run ’em here on Saturday (and sometimes Sunday too!).

If you’re not a member of Stirrup Nation and want to join, just visit Comrade Marshall’s house of hose (and you can see the available selections here) or if you have any questions about the availability of stirrups, drop him a line at

So, comrades — why don’t you pick up a pair or three and show us your rups!


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That’s all for today folks. Or, as I’m calling it…the day before Sandy kicks some ass up and down the coast. Enjoy the college football today. Back tomorrow with more good stuff (including Colorize This!, I promise). Everyone on the East Coast prepare now and get ready to hunker down tomorrow. And everyone be safe.

Because if you’re not dressed like this, then clearly you hate America. Yes, for everyone interested, that game will mercifully be on ESPN3 only (apparently) today. I’m sure Terry will have all the gory details tomorrow.

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Does anyone else see blood splattered on the stripes of flag, on those Boston College wounded warrior uniforms?
–Shane Miley

Comments (106)

    “Maybe the Astros are getting screwed by MLB and Selig by having to move to the AL”

    There’s no maybe to it. Selig is the worst.

    Agreed! Bud hates the Astros for some reason. I love the updated logo. Not much longer till all is revealed…

    I think the Astros are just ungrateful.. Selig even let them play a home game in his stadium in Milwaukee when they had a hurricane go through Houston. And then they had the nerve to go out and not even get a hit against Carlos Zambrano, like they didn’t even appreciate the hospitality.

    Wow. What happened there? Was supposed to say “Please don’t introduce me to Betteman”. Or that tool ruining the NFL either.

    The work of the guys at the GUD continues to be absolutely extraordinary.

    The effort, the execution, the expertise…simply awesome.

    GUD guys and site should somehow get more credit and publicity.

    I am thankful for all the work they do.

    Ya know, I laid off the Wounded Warrior uniform comments the first few times it was mentioned, but I got to thinking about it when seeing it again this morning. I’m pretty sure a flag in that “tattered” condition should be retired. And the only proper way to do that? Burn it with fire, of course. It and the designers.

    Re the latest Steelers photo, even if the jersey is authentic, we can’t assume that the apparently white number blocks were white in 1933/34. Could be that they are a different material or dye than the jersey, and were originally yellow but have faded to a much greater degree than the yellow stripes on the jersey. We’d need to see a clear photograph that shows a visible difference in gray tones between the stripes and the number blocks to be more confident that the numbers really were on white at the time.

    After all, if surviving artifacts are taken at face value, prior to about 1930, no baseball team wore either red or blue. Every team just wore various shades of light lavender, as we can clearly see from the color of surviving felt lettering.

    The Astros H logo is promising in two regards.

    First, the beveling. Now, I’m not usually a huge fan of beveling anywhere, but at least it’s something to set the new unis apart from the too-drab plain block letters that previous leaks have suggested. The old shooting-star jersey script is awesome because of the link. An Astros jersey with the block letters and not the shooting star will, simply, suck. It will be a crappy uniform, at least for a team named the Astros. But if the lettering includes the kind of subtle beveling we see on the cap logo, that will be a significant improvement on plain block letters. That alone should take the unmeteored jersey from suck to meh.

    Second, the serif on the H doesn’t have quite the rakish serifs of the original shooting-star jersey lettering, but it’s a bit more stylish than a plain, every-corner-a-right-angle block lettering. If the jersey script has the same style of serifs as the cap logo, then that would also take the unmeteored jersey from suck to meh.

    Taken together, if the new jersey script has both subtle beveling and angly serifs, it will go from suck to OK.

    It’s a nice update. I like the “H” but the star just looks weird to me. I liked the guestimate that was posted on the Creamer site better.


    Is there a beveling craze in Texas or something? Hell the Rangers did that shit in 1994 (tho the Mariners in 1993). I just don’t see the logic behind that H-star beveling, and I highly doubt some designers are doing these based on 3-D clay models.

    I was hoping the star would get bigger or the H got smaller. But this “update” is the best we can get these days.

    Pittsburgh likes to use black and gold. Maybe all the Houston teams want to unite with the beveling. The Texans can be next and the Rockets can bring the pajamas back full time too.

    I know the numbers with me in this are the same as the ones with me that liked the Gortons look. But this is still my favorite Astros look:


    Even if they want to go back to blue and orange that set would still look nice. Somebody with better skills at that than I have using Paintbrush take that 1994 look and turn change it to the current blue and orange. It’ll still look good.

    “Somebody with better skills at that than I have using Paintbrush”

    As a hint from someone who’s been using MS Paint since 1994:

    Cut out the area you want to edit
    Paste it in a new MS paint window
    “Stretch/Skew” it to 500% / 500% (may have to do it twice or different numbers. The key here is drawing at a much bigger size)
    Do your drawing/editing; save in 24-bit Bitmap format (different names so you have different stages saved)
    “Stretch/Skew” it to 20% / 20% back to original size

    It won’t be perfect but it’ll be a lot smoother & won’t look “bitmapped”.

    TY! I’ll have to work on that. There’s a few ideas I have bouncing around in my head I’ve been meaning to try to get to play well with Paintbrush. Paintbrush is terrible, but it was free.

    Agree with Arr. In fact, maybe it is just the photo, but those blocks actually look like they have a yellow tint suggesting they were yellow and faded.

    If Boston College is wearing those Captain America uniforms today, where in the world are they going to place their pink accessories to show off that they also love breast cancer research?

    Oh man, the Steelers too, with all the interspersion of pink amongst the old skool black and yellow striping…… FahhhhhK!

    “+1 of the week” hands down, and maybe the season. Cable providers should display the emergency broadcast tone for five seconds to give people a chance to turn away.

    It looks like the Stillers “1934” jerseys don’t have double shoulders. Makes one wonder how those single-mesh shoulders will hold up during the game(s).

    And an interesting fact in the fine print of the MacGregor helmet ad mentions that the padding was developed with the aid of the Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory. The Cornell Big Red wore White with Red-padded MacGregor helmets from around 1960 through the mid-’60s.

    As the research indicates, the Steelers have a tenuous connection with those jerseys, which makes the decision even more baffling. A far better choice would have been the 1934 gold jersey with black northwestern stripes.

    Hopefully this season will be a one off for this garb, which also bears a resemblance to jerseys The Three Stooges wore once.

    I knew several teams wore the padded helmet including Cornell. I was not aware of the tie in they had in the padding.

    Nice job by Ricko on the 50 years ago unis and helmets today.


    did you really think the NFL would allow a bumblebee vs. maroon game? while it would probably be easy enough to tell the teams apart, (i mean, who’s gonna look remotely like the stillers?) i could see that matchup requiring a *white* jersey

    course, the washington team also wants to maximize their own throwback for their own fans, too, so unless the NFL wanted to let them wear it a third time, i doubt they’d “waste” it on the road anyway

    True that, though I can wait a year or so when Madden’s 10-15 bucks a pop at pawn shops.

    Great shot of the Rams helmet and uni at the 3:29 mark, Elby Reece. So, what team history does he fall into? Nothing in the Rams or Cleveland all time roster for an Elby Reece.

    In my 1976 NFL Encyclopedia, he’s listed as playing for the Los Angeles Rams by the name Albert Reisz.

    Such a GORGEOUS looking game and Chicago running that tasty T formation (only HS I know that runs that today is Servite). Thanks Ricko for that!

    Turned on college gameday and the 4 hosts were all dressed as different college coaches, with masks and jackets for their respective school. All 4 happened to be Nike schools. From off stage another host came walking up dressed as Brian Kelley from Norte Dame who wears Adidas. Not sure which one said it, but one of the hosts said “this is a swoosh party, not a 3 stripes party” or something very similar.

    I’m digging those white crew socks worn by the Badgers in 1962 with the “W” on them (in the one b & w photo). With black cleats…….sweet. My T sweet

    Illinois in mono navy, Indiana in mono white.
    First non-orange helmet for the Illini in the TV era, right?


    I read that in a Blanche Knott’s Truly Tasteless Jokes book about 16 years ago.

    Well there’s a nice looking matchup in Pittsburgh today between the Panthers and the Owls.
    It’d look better if the Panthers put the names back on and kept to the gold pants at home and blue pants on the road where they belong (while burning the white pants). But it could’ve looked much worse if both teams broke out the white pants.

    The Astros have such a cool, unique theming opportunity — there is certainly no other MLB team that has anything to do with space in their name. They could do all kinds of distinctive futuristic, retro-futuristic, you name it things that other teams couldn’t get away with, but instead they’ll just be stuck with this (in my opinion) very drab throwback. The only Astros set that has come close to taking advantage of the “Astros” name, in my opinion, is their ’94-’99 set.

    It’s not a cool opinion around here, but I agree with you. While the Astros’ original unis were indeed a “good” baseball uniform, they just don’t seem to work (to me) for the Astros. If any team needs to wear something futuristic, it’s the ‘Stros.

    You mean something craptacular like the Turn Ahead The Clock unis? Those all looked tacky & terrible. Anything with gradients of space, planets, rocket ships, LCD fonts would look totally Minor League.

    I agree with Ricko. We’re well beyond the whole futuristic 2001: A Space Odyssey thing & Americans aren’t interested in NASA anymore.

    If anything, I’d like to see the old Colt 45’s unis come back & a new Western nickname. But my favorite Astros set is still their 1965-70. Clean & classic.

    Could’ve been a perfect cap logo right here… If more than 3 people still remember him… LOL


    And yes, that was meant as a joke… But it would be one of the few times I wouldn’t totally hate a corporate tie-in happening…

    Totally agree with the ideal Giants Uniform Set. Bring back the road greys from the past several years and get rid of the piping. I don’t mind the alternate. The only thing that bugs me is the grey space at the end of the sleeve past the orange strip on the road jerseys. It should be more like the home jersey.

    My OCD hates that placket piping that’s been added. Either add the orange to match the sleeves and pants or drop the orange on the sleeves and pants to match that. I hated the old “SF” road uniforms because of that mismatch. It just never looked right to me.

    North Carolina sporting new combination. Chrome/mirrored helmets with a baby blue footprint decal over navy on navy. If the ACC isn’t going for the worst kitted conference, its definitely the most unconventional. 39 points scored by both teams in the first quarter: the quality of play matches the unis.

    i am calling this the battle of the ugly alt helmets. Both schools have great looking primary helmets, it’s a shame they couldn’t have worn those instead.

    i guess thats what i get for expecting too much from the ACC..year in and year out, they just prove they shouldn’t be a major conference in terms of football

    If they wore their diamond nSc with their white lids, that wouldn’t be so bad. Or that S from the 60s, now that would be a good white lid!

    Outstanding looking game on YES right now – Yale at Columbia. Yale I’m the all whites, Columnia with a white helmet, light blue C decal, light blue jerseys, white pants. Awesome looking game

    When did the football Texas Longhorns start wearing white pants with no trim? It does not look right to me.

    I wonder how they’re going to get the helmet to stay on after the pitcher delivers, or how hot it could get in the summer.

    I guess an idea is to build a reinforced frame within the cap’s inner panel piping, but there are only 6 panels and spaced out & wouldn’t offer much protection & wouldn’t be comfortable, either. Maybe an 8 or 10 panel cap? link is what I’m thinking of but built inside.

    Pads would look bulky & would get hot as well. Maybe some kind of Reebok pump thing.

    Maybe raising the mound would help. Or not.

    If you think Under Armor puts big logos on their products – check out this BYU under armor hat. It looks like Under Armor is the team and BYU is the maker. link

    I think Adidas shorted St. Mary’s women’s soccer unis on their number font. They have such a great basketball font and it is a shame they couldn’t have brought that to the ladies soccer kits.

    I wonder what those helmet wings would look like with yellow wings. It might be overkill.

    “It might be overkill.”


    im not sure that noun is in the oregon vocabulary

    I was just looking at one of my Astros H-star throwback hats, and the star is sewn in such a way that it already appears beveled. Maybe they’re just making the logo reflect the way it’s done on the hats.

    This isn’t the first time they’ve done that – isn’t that one of their old school colors?

    The poor Astros. They might as well just do what the Knicks did and be done with it already. Just saw this on Chris Creamer’s FB:


    Link isn’t working but Google cache is.

    Come on, another round logo with text & a simplistic / barely original logo in the middle??

    2012 Padres
    2012 Blue Jays (letting that slide because that was an update)
    2011 Nationals
    2010 Twins
    2003 Texas Rangers
    1993 A’s
    1993 Mariners
    1992 Expos

    Does nobody design logos anymore?? Bring back mascots & state logos ASAP.

    Some people like those round logos because they’re simple but I find a lot of the recent ones boring–especially the 2012 Padres one.

    Also the Pittsburgh Pirates have a boring circle logo too, but it’s an alternate. But I’ve a feeling it’ll reach primary status soon enough. link

    For what it’s worth, I caught a bit of the BC-Maryland game on ESPN Goal Line. I think it was the play-by-play announcer asking the color man what the prospects were for BC to win the first ACC game of the season. The color man’s response was “if they can out-ugly them, they have a chance.” I don’t think they were referring to the style of play.

    The NCAA needs to create a football uniform “taste committee” and stop the colleges from this UGLYFEST teams and outfitters are bestowing upon the land.

    Greg Seher’s are interesting…..

    Cubs: They need a pants strip on the gray roads. A different shade of gray might be good too, it looks dingy…I don’t agree with the red alt. We already have the Redbirds and the Cincinnati Reds in the division. We don’t like red. At all.

    White Sox – really wish they’d get away from the black and silver.

    The Rays unis are beautiful. They need to go back to green. The orange sells it.

    Don’t like the Red/Yellow combos for the Angels and Nationals. Nats need to be red, white and blue. Yellow and red just screams Redskins and isn’t my favorite combo.

    Pittsburgh….maybe a yellow cap to wear with the black alts? (dear lord, not mustard!)

    I love green, just not for Milwaukee.

    Love the snake logo for the D-Backs. I have the old teal and purple one on a black cap. I love it.

    Friars – hmm….not sure. I don’t think the MLB teams need to mirror the NFL teams…..(some cases, like Pitt, OK, but….)

    All in all, great job!

    I REALLY enjoyed reading this article. A fiend sent this to me because my grandfather, Silvio “Sil” Zaninelli, was on the Pirates from 1934-1937 years. In 1934 he was #33 which was worn by Isaac Redman when they revealed the throwbacks for 2012. He passed away in 1979 but I had four years of knowing him. I believe he was a kicker. Thank you for letting people know about the history of the uniforms. They may not be the coolest looking uniforms but if you are a true fan, what they wear on the field shouldn’t matter. Thank you.

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