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The new issue of SABR’s Baseball Research Journal has an incredible photo of Billy Martin on the back cover, dating back to his early-’70s stint managing the Tigers — check it out.

That pipe is just amazing, no? It may end up replacing this as my brain’s reflexive go-to image whenever Billy’s name comes up (although the go-to words will always be “Ed Whitson” and “marshmallow salesman”). It also got me thinking that the Tigers’ current manager is known to be a smoker, too. And that in turn got me thinking about images of sports figures and smoking.

Leyland and Martin are hardly the only managers and coaches who’ve been known to light up. Back in the 1970s, Earl Weaver nicknamed erratic Orioles closer Don Stanhouse “Full Pack,” because that’s how many cigs Weaver nervously went through during one of Stanhouse’s tight-wire appearances. And I know I’ve seen pics of NFL coaches smoking, although I can’t find any at the moment.

Much more interesting are shots of smoking athletes. Nowadays, of course, it would be unthinkable for an player to appear with a cigarette dangling from his lip, but that wasn’t always the case. A quick search of the blog’s archives turned up the following:

• One of the classic SI covers of all time.

• What did Don Meredith do after losing the Ice Bowl? He lit up, of course.

• Roger Maris smoked during his epic 1961 season.

• Here’s a postgame celebration from the Kansas City Chiefs’ AFL days (not sure which year). That’s Sherrill Headrick with the coffin nail.

• Not sure who this curler is, but his use of the broom was particularly apropos.

I’m sure I’ve also seen pics of Guy LaFleur and Keith Hernandez smoking, but I can’t find them at the moment.

As for today’s athletes, I know Marlins pitcher Scott Olsen smokes, as does boxer Ricardo Mayorga, but I’ve never seen either of them — or any other current athlete I can think of — photographed with a cigarette. But cigars are apparently more acceptable — so acceptable, in fact, that even Mr. Wholesome White Boy himself, David Wright, appeared with a stogie after the Mets clinched the N.L. East title in 2006.

Sports and tobacco have a long, intertwined history. Most early baseball cards were promotional giveaways to boost sales of tobacco products. History’s most famous baseball card, in fact, owes its scarcity to the fact that Honus Wagner was a non-smoker and didn’t want his likeness used to promote tobacco, so he had the card taken out of production (or at least that’s the prevailing rationale — there are some competing theories as well).

Later on, tobacco companies used sports imagery in their print ads — sometimes just generic illustrations but more often in the form of celebrity endorsements by famous baseball or football players. As for broadcast media, I’m just barely old enough to have seen televised cigarette ads before they were banned, although I don’t recall athletes appearing in the televised spots. Anyone know more about that?

It’s also worth noting that loads of athletes smoke weed, although former Mets pitcher Grant Roberts is the only one I can think of who’s been stupid enough to get photographed in the act. (Roberts shouldn’t be confused with former Mets Tony Tarasco and Mark Corey, who had to admit that they’d been smoking pot shortly after a 2002 game when Corey went into a seizure and collapsed, leaving Tarasco to face the EMTs who asked, “Did he ingest anything unusual in the past hour or so?” Since Corey was still, like, convulsing on the floor, Tarasco figured he’d better tell the truth instead of blaming it on a bad oyster or something like that.)

Of course, there’s also the issue of baseball players who chew tobacco (easily identified by the telltale round canister in their back pockets), but that’s another topic for another day.

Research Project: Yesterday I linked to a photo of Jim Kyte blow-drying his hearing aid. That led to a handful of really interesting notes — some in the comments section, some e-mailed to me directly — about deaf athletes and their specialized equipment needs, a topic I’d never thought about before.

I’d like to explore this subject in more detail. If anyone knows more about it, please get in touch.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Great article here about the guy who designed the leather football helmets for the upcoming Leatherheads flick. ”¦ Also from yesterday: Under Armour has gotten into the chest protector biz (which means they’re basically making outer armor). ”¦ First pics of the Giants’ starting pitchers wearing stirrups are here, here, and here. I’d prefer to see a lot more white showing, but it’s a good start (with thanks to Jamie Costello). ”¦ Some of the subtlest uniform branding I’ve ever seen was on Dale Ernhardt Jr.’s fire suit at the Daytona 500 on Sunday,” writes Greg Riffenburgh. “As you may know, he recently signed a contract to be outfitted by Adidas. But since so many other brands have their logos on the suit, Adidas used a triple-stiching quilt pattern.” ”¦ While researching something else, I came across a great site featuring military ribbon insignia — fun to click through. ”¦ Rutgers has unveiled new baseball uniforms. Note the distinction between the new cap logo and last year’s model (with thanks to David Berger). ”¦ The Pirates’ spring training 40th-anniversary patch is really, uh, subtle. ”¦ Lots of surprisingly interesting arena football helmet details available in item No. 18 on this list (with thanks to Neal Shaffer). ”¦ Christopher Drouin reports that Michigan State’s lacrosse team puts the players’ names on the back of the helmets. … Kenn Tomasch spent yesterday at Cubs camp, where he snapped this shot of Alfonso Soriano inspecting an unidentified teammate’s collar tag, while the teammate appears to be examining his shirttail tag. Odd. ”¦ Third question on this Q&A page features some news regarding Reds uni numbers (with thanks to David Sonny). ”¦ Interesting article here about high-tech performance gear in many different sports (as spotted by Patrick Baude).

 
  
 
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Comments (248)

    Good research project, Paul. In looking for other hockey players who have suffered from hearing loss from yesterday’s topic, Steve Downie of the Philadelphia Flyers has some sort of hearing loss. I’ve been searching for others, but have had no such luck yet.

    I’ll keep you posted if I find any.

    The most link in sports history.

    Also, Tommy Heinsohn was known to smoke a lot as well. I know I’ve seen locker room pics of him ripping butts but I can’t seem to find one online.

    [quote comment=”227629″]Good research project, Paul. In looking for other hockey players who have suffered from hearing loss from yesterday’s topic, Steve Downie of the Philadelphia Flyers has some sort of hearing loss. I’ve been searching for others, but have had no such luck yet.

    I’ll keep you posted if I find any.[/quote]

    Think that’s why Downie apparantly can’t hear people telling him to stop playing so dirty this season?!?

    I have worn hearing aids since I was 3. Played high school football. Fortunately for the hearing aid, I wasn’t very good. So there was no danger of too much sweat shorting it out or a major collision or anything. Biggest worry for me was having the stupid battery run out during practice and having to say “WHAT?” every 5 seconds.

    Reminds me of an article I saw somewhere (sorry, don’t remember) about John Kruk. Some lady was criticizing him for smoking, and said something about how athlete’s shouldn’t smoke, etc., and he told her “I’m not an athlete, I’m a baseball player.”
    :-)

    I couldn’t find it this morning, but I know I once saw a picture of Michael Vick smoking what appears to be a blunt with a female companion in the back of a limo. I’ll continue my search…

    You can see the three stripe Adidas on Jr’s pants here: link

    During the race you could see he had gloves with the three stripes on them…..

    [quote comment=”227643″]I couldn’t find it this morning, but I know I once saw a picture of Michael Vick smoking what appears to be a blunt with a female companion in the back of a limo. I’ll continue my search…[/quote]

    link

    Paul –

    Yesterday I thought that UA Chest Protector was a fake that was really a butchered link but then I found link…you would think UA would come up with their own look for the link.

    By the way, did you get the package I sent?

    [quote comment=”227649″]Does this count as an athlete with a cigarette, or are we not counting golf?

    link

    Dang! Look at the scratches on his face!

    [quote comment=”227660″][quote comment=”227649″]Does this count as an athlete with a cigarette, or are we not counting golf?

    link

    Dang! Look at the scratches on his face![/quote]

    supposedly his wife attacked him with a knife…police were called…daly’s wife, children, the knife and whatever remained of his manhood, were never found

    I’m sure I’ve also seen pics of Guy LaFleur and Keith Hernandez smoking, but I can’t find them at the moment.

    Best link ever!

    I’ll bet you that the picture of the Chiefs celebrating a championship actually was from 1962, when they were the Dallas Texans, and they defeated the Houston Oilers 20-17 in what is still the longest professional football game ever.

    I remember former Cowboy (and I guess rodeo star)Walt Garrison doing TV ads for Skoal, Copenhagen and Happy Days smokeless tobacco in the 70s. Here’s a link.

    Also, I don’t think link awesome picture has been linked yet. Sorry if it has.

    One of the classic shots of all is Dave Parker in the canary Pirate uni taking a deep drag.

    Lenny Dykstra sez: “Those wimpy little canisters are smokeless tobacco, not chewing tobacco, trust me.”

    link

    I’m at work, so I can’t make a screen cap, but you can catch Keith Hernandez smoking on Seinfeld.

    Of course the Babe was known to smoke a few cigars…wchihc I if I am not mistaken was a cause of his throat cancer. But who knew he rolled his own:

    Bambino!

    Damned tripod and hotlinking, link is the page with a Chesterfield multi-sport ad (and a lot of other good stuff as well).

    [quote comment=”227672″]One of the classic shots of all is Dave Parker in the canary Pirate uni taking a deep drag.[/quote]The funny thing about the Dave Parker pic I linked in Comment #23 is that The player wearing #23 in the background is also firing it up, just more discreetly.

    I saw an interview with Hank Aaron on ESPN during Bonds chase. It was a replay of Hank in 1973 when he was chasing Ruth, a few times they showed him sitting in the lockerroom smoking during the interview.

    [quote comment=”227675″]Lenny Dykstra sez: “Those wimpy little canisters are smokeless tobacco, not chewing tobacco, trust me.”

    link[/quote]

    There is a big difference. You try chewing on a lip of skoal or coppenhagen. Good luck to you. Red Man chews much better. But skoal is more delicious.

    My comment was really to say that I love the opening picture. Rene Magritte does some genious work, the least of which being The Treachery of Images. Thanks, Paul, for bringing me back to my 20th Century Art class in college. Magritte was one of my favorites. Very nice.

    This is not a pipe.

    Vlade Divac was notorious for smoking before/after Charlotte Hornets games.

    Can’t find a pic, though

    [quote comment=”227671″]I remember former Cowboy (and I guess rodeo star)Walt Garrison doing TV ads for Skoal, Copenhagen and Happy Days smokeless tobacco in the 70s. Here’s a link.

    Also, I don’t think link awesome picture has been linked yet. Sorry if it has.[/quote]
    Carlton Fisk did similar ads. The catchline, issued as he was chopping down a tree, was “I hope it clears the fence,” an obvious reference to his theatrics in the 1975 World Series.

    dick trickle used to smoke in his car during nascar caution laps (back in the day. google “dick trickle smoking”. couldn’t find pictures).

    and i remember seeing a picture of al iafrate of the cpaitals lighting a cig with the blow torch he used to fix the curve on his stick. can’t find the picture though.

    phil? anything on either???

    dick trickle used to smoke in his car during nascar caution laps (back in the day. google “dick trickle smoking”. couldn’t find pictures).

    and i remember seeing a picture of al iafrate of the cpaital lighting a cig with the blow torch he used to fix the curve on his stick. can’t find the picture though.

    phil? anything on either???

    DEAF NFL PLAYERS

    St. Louis NFL Cardinals DL Bonnie Sloan played in the 1970s and I believe was the only deaf player in the NFL at that time.

    ________________________________

    SMOKING COACHES IN THE NFL

    Cardinals OL Coach, later Head Coach Jim Hanifan was the ALL-TIME SMOKING KING of the NFL. He would often be seen by the TV cameras smoking on the sidelines, one after another.

    Hanifan was the Kobiashi of NFL smoking !!!!

    In the 1970s Dick Nolan smoked alot while coaching the 49ers in his sharp-looking SUIT !!!
    He resembled an NFL version of Dean Martin !!!

    DEAF NFL PLAYERS

    St. Louis NFL Cardinals DL Bonnie Sloan played in the 1970s and I believe was the only deaf player in the NFL at that time.

    ________________________________

    SMOKING COACHES IN THE NFL

    Cardinals OL Coach, later Head Coach Jim Hanifan was the ALL-TIME SMOKING KING of the NFL. He would often be seen by the TV cameras smoking on the sidelines, one after another.

    Hanifan was the Kobiashi of NFL smoking !!!!

    In the 1970s Dick Nolan smoked alot while coaching the 49ers in his sharp-looking SUIT !!!
    He resembled an NFL version of Dean Martin !!!

    as a lifelong asthmatic, and one who has recently been diagnosed with the inflammatory lung disorder sarcoidosis, i cant help but shudder any time i see anyone, let alone an athlete smoke.

    its interesting how i pay hundreds of dollars a month just so i can inhale air somewhat normally, while these guys, who need to rely on their lungs for stamina, pay hundreds of dollars per month just so they can inhale smoke.

    however i did have a habit of chewing kodiak for 15 years. on thursday, it will be 1 year that i quit cold turkey.

    Junior’s firesuit stitching subtle?????

    I guess my logo creep detector is much too sensitive…

    I hope it doesn’t pose a problem for me in life.

    Let us not forget that link was moved from Wake Forest, NC to Winston-Salem, NC because the link basically paid for the move.

    All of the schools major athletic facilities are right next door to the RJ Reynolds plant and you can often smell the tobacco from the plants when at fall afternoon football games.

    I can’t find any pics but did you see the Sharks/Islanders game yesterday? Nabokov took one in the mask – the cage broke and cut him in the cheek. He came back to start the third period.

    Go to: link

    Click on “TSN Broadband” and choose Sharks/Islanders Highlights. Good stuff.

    lemuix did smoke a lot, but later quit. I remember him talking about it on the old NHL Cool Shots show. Blackhawks coach Denis Savard is a heavy smoker too.

    Thanks for the shoutout Paul but all the credit goes to GiantFan9 who writes a great spring training blog where those pictures come from:

    link

    [quote comment=”227664″][quote comment=”227660″][quote comment=”227649″]Does this count as an athlete with a cigarette, or are we not counting golf?

    link

    Dang! Look at the scratches on his face![/quote]

    supposedly his wife attacked him with a knife…police were called…daly’s wife, children, the knife and whatever remained of his manhood, were never found[/quote]

    Are you sure those aren’t stretch marks? ;)

    on a curious note … what’s with comments in recent days that are just quotes attributed back to what Paul says without any comment or reference of any kind (with the comment attributed to a user name = that days post headline)?

    Also, as long as we’re on the topic we should remember that most of us are not advocating smoking or chewing of anything. We are merely displaying the acts that have previously been documented.

    With that in mind never forget people like link whose own choices led to him having to link caused by link. He lost part of his tongue and jaw in surgeries.

    there is a difference between cigar smokers.

    you have the cigar smoker. the guy who just smokes cigars… just like they are cigarettes.

    the event cigar smoker. the guy who smokes at events. golf, race track, etc.

    the celebration cigar smoker. the guy who smokes in celebration of something. bachelor party, wedding, baby, championship, etc.

    you have to distinguish which is which. i used to be an event and celebration smoker.

    one man who was all 3 at once was larry laoretti. winner of the 1992 us senior open.

    [quote comment=”227731″]Also, as long as we’re on the topic we should remember that most of us are not advocating smoking or chewing of anything. We are merely displaying the acts that have previously been documented.

    With that in mind never forget people like link whose own choices led to him having to link caused by link. He lost part of his tongue and jaw in surgeries.[/quote]

    Good call. I flat out quit at midnight New Years Day. It’s tough. My friends still dip when we go out and as soon as they open a tin I can smell it and crave it. Seeing that guy and a few others with faces like his scared me straight.

    I’ll always love the smell, just like he said. And I’ll always want a lip when someone opens a tin.

    I don’t know if there is anymore, but I used to see a ton of skoal and copenhagen ads in Sports Illustrated (I don’t get it anymore). The ones I remember didn’t use athletes, but a I remember a lot of them used NASCAR (or NASCAR-like) images.

    All I ever remember is “Always there in a pinch.” I never really got that until many years later.

    Here’s a classic shot of Super Mario smoking during a race long after cyclists stopped believing that cigarettes, “opened up the lungs”:
    link

    I am pretty sure there is a pic of Kieth Hernandez smoking in the Jeff Pearlman book, “The Bad Guys Won.”

    Along with link I think it is pretty common for golfers to smoke…especially on the European Tour. For example; link link link link And then there is lesser known link Last but not least, Ben Hogan usually was smoking, and in link it shows Hogan lighting up with Arnie. It’s actually called “The smoking picture”.

    [quote comment=”227740″]Here’s a classic shot of Super Mario smoking during a race long after cyclists stopped believing that cigarettes, “opened up the lungs”:
    link

    I believe you meant to link to link.

    i started in college. sophomore year.
    a friend worked for skoal in the summer and he would come to our apt and drop off duffle bags of sleeves of straight, mint, and cherry (which had just come out at that time).
    during IM softball i jumped to levi garrett which turned to red man golden blend and then to one of my favorites, lancaster.
    it just became a habit after that. my tin was no different than my watch or my keys. had to have it with me.

    finally i gave it up for lent last year.
    90% of my friends still chew and id be lying if i said that in the summer at softball, or at an outdoor picnic, i dont want to snag a lip.

    my dentist has noticed a recognizeable difference. he always had said to me, “you need to lay off of the, ‘ahem’, candy.”

    [quote comment=”227708″]as a lifelong asthmatic, and one who has recently been diagnosed with the inflammatory lung disorder sarcoidosis, i cant help but shudder any time i see anyone, let alone an athlete smoke.

    its interesting how i pay hundreds of dollars a month just so i can inhale air somewhat normally, while these guys, who need to rely on their lungs for stamina, pay hundreds of dollars per month just so they can inhale smoke.

    however i did have a habit of chewing kodiak for 15 years. on thursday, it will be 1 year that i quit cold turkey.[/quote]

    I’ll admitt that up until the middle of December I was a pack-a-day smoker. And I have chronic bronchitis, basically I have bronchitis about 4-5 months out of the year. Stupid, but I still rationalized why I needed to smoke for about 8 years.

    [quote comment=”227686″]Everybody loves a smoke!

    link[/quote]
    Oddly enough, Stan “The Man” Musial (the guy in the center of the photo) wasn’t a smoker…

    Musial became a wealthy man due to his restaurant and hotel businesses following his playing career. While still a player, he’d show up at “Stan Musial and Biggie’s” to meet-and-greet; he avoided the constant offers of “Lemme buy you a drink!” by walking about with an ice-filled glass in his hand, smiling, and saying, “Thanks! Already got one!”

    Mr. Musial autographed a baseball and a B&W “glossy” of himself for me at that restaurant — those items won’t be seen on E-Bay until I’ve shuffled off this mortal coil!

    If you look closely at the link in post #16, it appears the catcher is wearing an Under Armour link as well. Makes sense, if UA is making chest protectors, they probably are doing masks and shin guards as well.

    Also, didn’t get a chance to post yesterday, but those NBA All-Star Uni’s were an utter and absolute abomination. I didn’t watch the game live, but when the highlights were on SportsCenter later that night, it literally took me a couple of minutes to figure out what the hell was going on! It was totally unwatchable. Add Steven A. Smith to the mix and it was unlistenble too!

    [quote comment=”227666″]I’m sure I’ve also seen pics of Guy LaFleur and Keith Hernandez smoking, but I can’t find them at the moment.

    Best link ever![/quote]

    No play for Mister Gray…..

    link

    [quote comment=”227751″]If you look closely at the link in post #16, it appears the catcher is wearing an Under Armour link as well. Makes sense, if UA is making chest protectors, they probably are doing masks and shin guards as well.

    quote] Any idea what is written on the lowest part of the mask?

    I know this has nothing to do with the smoking, but I remember watching one of the Reds’ World Series from ’75 or ’76 on ESPN Classic and one of the Reds players (can’t remember who) was chewing on a toothpick while he was up to bat.

    Weird to see someone with something dangling from his mouth swinging the bat…

    Dale Jr. has a Redskin’s logo on his glasses?

    Looks like a Chevy logo to me.

    You would not be far off…

    Might not be the Redskins logo but Jr. is a huge Redskins fan. When we were working with Dan Snyder on the Redskins black alternate uni, we met with Dan and he had a replica Dale Jr car (small scale of course) in his office and mentioned Dale’s passion for the Redskins. Not sure if there’s a Gibbs tie in there or not?

    link

    [quote comment=”227759″][quote comment=”227751″]If you look closely at the link in post #16, it appears the catcher is wearing an Under Armour link as well. Makes sense, if UA is making chest protectors, they probably are doing masks and shin guards as well.

    quote] Any idea what is written on the lowest part of the mask?[/quote]

    It looks like it says: IBAR VISION

    [quote comment=”227761″]I know this has nothing to do with the smoking, but I remember watching one of the Reds’ World Series from ’75 or ’76 on ESPN Classic and one of the Reds players (can’t remember who) was chewing on a toothpick while he was up to bat.

    Weird to see someone with something dangling from his mouth swinging the bat…[/quote]
    UL Washington of the 1980 Royals always had a toothpick in his mouth. It can sort of be seen on link baseball card.

    [quote comment=”227763″]Dale Jr. has a Redskin’s logo on his glasses?

    Looks like a Chevy logo to me.

    You would not be far off…

    Might not be the Redskins logo but Jr. is a huge Redskins fan. When we were working with Dan Snyder on the Redskins black alternate uni, we met with Dan and he had a replica Dale Jr car (small scale of course) in his office and mentioned Dale’s passion for the Redskins. Not sure if there’s a Gibbs tie in there or not?

    link
    They are Spy glasses
    link

    At work so no pics, but Glenallen Hill, Mark Grace, Kaz Ishii and Orlando “El Duque” Hernandez were/are all smokers… El Duque was the best- a few years ago (99-00) at Yankee Spring Training, the guy ripped butts like it was going out of style. In the bullpen, outside of the stadium… everywhere. Gotta love that guy.

    [quote comment=”227746″]i started in college. sophomore year.
    a friend worked for skoal in the summer and he would come to our apt and drop off duffle bags of sleeves of straight, mint, and cherry (which had just come out at that time).
    during IM softball i jumped to levi garrett which turned to red man golden blend and then to one of my favorites, lancaster.
    it just became a habit after that. my tin was no different than my watch or my keys. had to have it with me.

    finally i gave it up for lent last year.
    90% of my friends still chew and id be lying if i said that in the summer at softball, or at an outdoor picnic, i dont want to snag a lip.

    my dentist has noticed a recognizeable difference. he always had said to me, “you need to lay off of the, ‘ahem’, candy.”[/quote]

    mnmm…..levi garrett. i too quite, 3 years ago, but just the sound of it makes me want a plug.

    I seem to recall Lou Pinella smoking a cigarette a few years back in the dugout. Can’t find any pictures though.

    [quote comment=”227670″]I’ll bet you that the picture of the Chiefs celebrating a championship actually was from 1962, when they were the Dallas Texans, and they defeated the Houston Oilers 20-17 in what is still the longest professional football game ever.[/quote]

    That’s not even the longest game played by the Texans/Chiefs franchise. December 25, 1971 when the Dolphins beat the Chiefs 27-24 in double overtime – that game went 82:40 (Texans/Oilers went 77:54).

    And, if you’re like me and you consider the USFL to have been “professional football” (though not NFL calibre), on June 30, 1984, the Los Angeles Express/Arizona Wranglers USFL playoff game that went into a third overtime for a total playing time of 93:33.

    That’s the longest professional football game ever.

    OK, I sent the comment onto Paul that I remember seeing a picture of Stan Mikita smoking after a game, but I can’t find it and neither can he. Anybody out there have any luck finding it?

    Original Six uniforms on the big screen?

    Blackhawks uniforms
    Wayne’s World 2
    link

    Clark Griswold // Natonal Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation
    link

    Red Wings
    Gordie Howe // Ferris Buller’s Day Off
    link

    Other recollections of NHL O-6 in the movies???

    The pic below sent shockwaves through the international media covering the ’06 World Cup in Germany… of course many already knew Zizou enjoyed his a nic fix.

    link

    [quote comment=”227789″]Original Six uniforms on the big screen?

    Blackhawks uniforms
    Wayne’s World 2
    link

    Clark Griswold // Natonal Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation
    link

    Red Wings
    Gordie Howe // Ferris Buller’s Day Off
    link

    Other recollections of NHL O-6 in the movies???[/quote]

    Blackhawks played the Pens in Sudden Death if I am not mistaken.

    [quote comment=”227795″][quote comment=”227789″]Original Six uniforms on the big screen?

    Blackhawks uniforms
    Wayne’s World 2
    link

    Clark Griswold // Natonal Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation
    link

    Red Wings
    Gordie Howe // Ferris Buller’s Day Off
    link

    Other recollections of NHL O-6 in the movies???[/quote]

    Blackhawks played the Pens in Sudden Death if I am not mistaken.[/quote]
    The charecter Doug in Cutting Edge had a Hull Hawks Jersey

    Let’s not forget the movie the Mighty Ducks 3 when the JV team comes out in the 3rd period wearing the NHL team’s jerseys, only to go on and beat the mighty varsity. Who saw that one coming?

    The movie The Rocket had some nice views of original 6 teams too as it is the story of Henri Richard. Kinda weird watching a French movie with English dubbing though

    On the All-Star game, checked the comments and didn’t see a mention of the Kevin Durant ad, which was pretty cool for uni-watchers

    link

    With St. Patricks day upon us, we get the usual Green treatment, nhl shop has a whole section for green wear(UGH!!)

    link

    [quote comment=”227743″]Along with link I think it is pretty common for golfers to smoke…especially on the European Tour. For example; link link link link And then there is lesser known link Last but not least, Ben Hogan usually was smoking, and in link it shows Hogan lighting up with Arnie. It’s actually called “The smoking picture”.[/quote]

    I was at the Phoenix Open about 10 years ago – #1 tee box. Fuzzy Zoeller is introduced, he walks up to the tee box, puts his cigarette on the grass, tees up, drives the ball about 290 down the middle (no practice swing), picks up the cig and walks down the fairway… classic.

    [quote comment=”227759″][quote comment=”227751″]If you look closely at the link in post #16, it appears the catcher is wearing an Under Armour link as well. Makes sense, if UA is making chest protectors, they probably are doing masks and shin guards as well.

    quote] Any idea what is written on the lowest part of the mask?[/quote]

    Is Under Armour the mother company for All-Star or Vice-Versa b/c that catcher’s gear is the same gear that All-Star sells, except the logos. Take a look at link from last year.

    John Kruk was (is?) a smoker. He even named his autobiography after an incident in which a woman told him he shouldn’t be smoking as he was a professional athlete. His reply was, of course “I ain’t an athlete, lady; I play baseball.”

    One thing regarding Adidas logo creep.

    Nike had its logos on the race shoes of Al Unser Jr. and Dale Earnhardt, but who knows if these were made by Beaverton, Ore., or were commissioned to Bill Simpson to make a fireproof shoe?

    Also, those Adidas stripes had to have been quilted in and not sewn in; the construction of those full suits changed after Tom Sneva’s fiery crash at Indy in 1975. Sneva was OK except for pinhole-sized burn marks around his shoulders.

    Seems that epaulets were made mandatory in USAC racing at the time to help rescue workers pull drivers out of the cars, but the people making Sneva’s suit sewed the epaulets onto the suit by stitching all the way through the suit instead of fastening it to the outer skin.

    I can’t believe Jersey Joe is still a UW sponsor … a GREEN METS BP JERSEY in an ad? What the?

    Heresy!!

    I believe that is Felix Pie that Soriano is looking at. They have a brother-like relationship, so maybe he is making sure Pie is dressed properly.

    The Chicago Rush need your help, UniWatch loyalists!!! Paul’s ticker item on the new Arena League helmets got me looking at the Rush site. They’re letting the public vote on whether they should go monochrome black with their third uniform this year. Please go to link and vote for silver pants … PLEASE!!!!

    [quote comment=”227823″]The Chicago Rush need your help, UniWatch loyalists!!! Paul’s ticker item on the new Arena League helmets got me looking at the Rush site. They’re letting the public vote on whether they should go monochrome black with their third uniform this year. Please go to link and vote for silver pants … PLEASE!!!![/quote]
    I’ve done my civic duty today and voted against the black.

    [quote comment=”227789″]Original Six uniforms on the big screen?

    Blackhawks uniforms
    Wayne’s World 2
    link

    Clark Griswold // Natonal Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation
    link

    Red Wings
    Gordie Howe // Ferris Buller’s Day Off
    link

    Other recollections of NHL O-6 in the movies???[/quote]
    Boston Bruins – Happy Gilmore (especially in the Sandler/Bob Barker fight scene)

    I can’t believe nobody thought of that one before now!

    [quote comment=”227799″]On the All-Star game, checked the comments and didn’t see a mention of the Kevin Durant ad, which was pretty cool for uni-watchers

    link

    That ad has been on since at least November, when it was posted to YouTube.

    From the Washington Post’s Capitals Blog:

    *Olie Kolzig is wearing a special jersey today. On the back, it’s got his No. 37 over a puzzle piece. The jersey will be auctioned off to support Kolzig’s charity, Athletes Against Autism. The other players will wear a similar jersey for the morning skate on Wednesday.

    Wasn’t there an SI cover of a baseball player smoking, I’m too young to remember his name, I think it was Dick Allen. I think someone posted a pic of him with the A’s the other day with Sachem, the name of his high school, as his nameplate.

    link

    from the main article:

    [quote]- One of the link of all time.[/quote]

    [quote comment=”227833″]Wasn’t there an SI cover of a baseball player smoking, I’m too young to remember his name, I think it was Dick Allen. I think someone posted a pic of him with the A’s the other day with Sachem, the name of his high school, as his nameplate.

    link[/quote]

    coincidence?

    [quote comment=”227833″]Wasn’t there an SI cover of a baseball player smoking, I’m too young to remember his name, I think it was Dick Allen. I think someone posted a pic of him with the A’s the other day with Sachem, the name of his high school, as his nameplate.

    link[/quote]
    Hmmm. Wherever did you find it? :^J

    [quote comment=”227826″][quote comment=”227823″]The Chicago Rush need your help, UniWatch loyalists!!! Paul’s ticker item on the new Arena League helmets got me looking at the Rush site. They’re letting the public vote on whether they should go monochrome black with their third uniform this year. Please go to link and vote for silver pants … PLEASE!!!![/quote]
    I’ve done my civic duty today and voted against the black.[/quote]

    Me too.

    I think we all know that MLB base coaches will be wearing helmets next year. I just read that they will have the choice of ear flaps, or no flaps.
    I’m sure Paul will have a field day breaking down who chose what. Also will 1st base coaches get left ear flaps while third base coaches get right ear flaps?
    See Helmets section of this link.

    [quote comment=”227848″]I heard a rumour about link but without evidence I wouldn’t want to besmirch his good name…

    SB[/quote]

    link

    “that bong is so dope…wait…what was i talking about?”

    [quote comment=”227845″]South Dakota State University unveils link.[/quote]

    “…Come nay further, for death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth!”

    [quote comment=”227850″]I think we all know that MLB base coaches will be wearing helmets next year. I just read that they will have the choice of ear flaps, or no flaps.
    I’m sure Paul will have a field day breaking down who chose what. Also will 1st base coaches get left ear flaps while third base coaches get right ear flaps?
    See Helmets section of this link.[/quote]

    Yeah, we talked about that when it was first announced.

    MLB’s hysterical over-reaction to a non-existent problem.

    [quote comment=”227789″]
    Other recollections of NHL O-6 in the movies???[/quote]

    John Candy in summer rental
    link

    [quote comment=”227853″]MLB’s hysterical over-reaction to a non-existent problem.[/quote]

    That’s what they all said right up until August 17, 1920.

    I used to go to school at York College, and one of the teams in our conference (Capital athletic conference) was Gallaudet, who I remember seeing an old picture of a few days ago. Their entire school is deaf, and they still participate regularly in normal division III athletics.

    Interesting pictures from some Arena Football spring training. The first picture shows the new helmets a couple of NFL guys used last year. Also interesting to see the Arena guys practicing outside.

    Do most football players look way down on the AFL, or do they look at it as another option if they can’t make it into the NFL. I was in the Orlando airport a year or so ago and the whole Dallas team was there to board their commercial filght back home.

    link

    [quote comment=”227864″]Okay, this is too strange. I’m getting the hell out of here, stat![/quote]

    It’s not strange at all. I used your quote and added the link in case some people did not understand the date as the reference.

    So with J-Kidd officially becoming a Mav, what are they going to do about his number situation? J-Ho already wears number 5. Does he give up the number or does J-Kidd go back to wearing 32 like in his Suns days?

    Anyone know this already?

    On a side note… if you are in the Badger State or the Aloha State, please go vote today no matter who your choice is. Every vote counts.

    [quote comment=”227868″]So with J-Kidd officially becoming a Mav, what are they going to do about his number situation? J-Ho already wears number 5. Does he give up the number or does J-Kidd go back to wearing 32 like in his Suns days?

    Anyone know this already?[/quote]

    And what number, if any, will Van Horn be assigned? Will he really play after sitting out 2 years? The NBA’s trade rules are strange and convoluted. But, entertaining.

    [quote comment=”227833″]Wasn’t there an SI cover of a baseball player smoking, I’m too young to remember his name, I think it was Dick Allen. I think someone posted a pic of him with the A’s the other day with Sachem, the name of his high school, as his nameplate.

    link[/quote]

    And now since you pissed me off…Read the entry, it’s right there for you

    [quote comment=”227872″][quote comment=”227868″]So with J-Kidd officially becoming a Mav, what are they going to do about his number situation? J-Ho already wears number 5. Does he give up the number or does J-Kidd go back to wearing 32 like in his Suns days?

    Anyone know this already?[/quote]

    And what number, if any, will Van Horn be assigned? Will he really play after sitting out 2 years? The NBA’s trade rules are strange and convoluted. But, entertaining.[/quote]

    Van Horn should go back to his 44 that he was when the Nets drafted him. But he’s never going to see the floor so it doesn’t matter

    [quote comment=”227865″]Interesting pictures from some Arena Football spring training. The first picture shows the new helmets a couple of NFL guys used last year. Also interesting to see the Arena guys practicing outside.

    Do most football players look way down on the AFL, or do they look at it as another option if they can’t make it into the NFL. I was in the Orlando airport a year or so ago and the whole Dallas team was there to board their commercial filght back home.

    link

    I’m guessing outside practices because it is harder to get time in the arena. Plus the time it takes to set up the arena for football pitted against the other events in the arena.

    Those helmets look like an evolutionary step between today and the ‘helmet of the future’ that we talked about previously.

    [quote comment=”227876″][quote comment=”227869″][quote comment=”227822″][quote comment=”227794″][quote comment=”227776″]As far as branding goes, isn’t this a bit much…?

    link[/quote]

    X marks the spot[/quote]

    The U and A are interlocking, not an X.[/quote]

    No shit, i don’t live under a rock…but it kinda looks like an X and it was a damn joke[/quote]

    Actually, it DOES look like an X..and I do not live under a rock either.[/quote]

    just closing the tags…carry on

    [quote comment=”227867″][quote comment=”227864″]Okay, this is too strange. I’m getting the hell out of here, stat![/quote]

    It’s not strange at all. I used your quote and added the link in case some people did not understand the date as the reference.[/quote]

    Ah, okay. I thought you had the exact same brainstorm I did.

    See, I wanted them to actually do the work themselves if they didn’t know. Subtlety. Mike Coolbaugh would have been an easy reference, but Ray Chapman required a little bit more.

    Every safety invention ever in sports, I think, was surrounded by the “how unnecessary is that?” thing. From batters helmets to hockey goalie masks to the Steve Yeager throat guard thing. It’s only unnecessary until someone needs it.

    And how many guys have to die? How many kids have to end up fatherless? Is one too few but two too many?

    You’re not even going to notice base coaches wearing helmets after about two weeks. And about ten years from now, someone will say “Hey, they didn’t always wear helmets, did they?”

    [quote comment=”227881″][quote comment=”227867″][quote comment=”227864″]Okay, this is too strange. I’m getting the hell out of here, stat![/quote]

    It’s not strange at all. I used your quote and added the link in case some people did not understand the date as the reference.[/quote]

    Ah, okay. I thought you had the exact same brainstorm I did.

    See, I wanted them to actually do the work themselves if they didn’t know. Subtlety. Mike Coolbaugh would have been an easy reference, but Ray Chapman required a little bit more.

    Every safety invention ever in sports, I think, was surrounded by the “how unnecessary is that?” thing. From batters helmets to hockey goalie masks to the Steve Yeager throat guard thing. It’s only unnecessary until someone needs it.

    And how many guys have to die? How many kids have to end up fatherless? Is one too few but two too many?

    You’re not even going to notice base coaches wearing helmets after about two weeks. And about ten years from now, someone will say “Hey, they didn’t always wear helmets, did they?”[/quote]

    I agree with you. I also look at the risk to reward ratio. It’s not that big of a deal to wear the helmet and who knows when it might come into play. I understand that there are people that feel a helmet would not have even helped Coolbaugh and I’m not going to say that you are right or wrong, but might wearing the helmet help a coach in the future? I know that I would wear one, mandated or not.

    [quote comment=”227855″][quote comment=”227789″]
    Other recollections of NHL O-6 in the movies???[/quote]

    John Candy in summer rental
    link[/quote]

    Joey Lauren Adams in “Chasing Amy” wearing a Leafs Felix Potvin jersey.

    Also, word is that Viggo Mortensen would often show up on the Toronto set of A “History Of Violence” wearing a Habs jersey.

    [quote comment=”227863″][quote comment=”227857″]MLB’s hysterical over-reaction to a non-existent problem.[/quote]

    That’s what they all said right up until link.[/quote]

    Ray Chapman was a base coach?

    [quote comment=”227881″]And how many guys have to die? How many kids have to end up fatherless? Is one too few but two too many?
    [/quote]

    Who’s died? No helmet would have saved Mike Coolbaugh, who was struck in the neck.

    That’s why this is an hysterical over-reaction: it makes good copy, it makes people feel better, but it doesn’t actually address a real problem. Empty window dressing.

    Mike Bossy of the Islanders was a known smoker. The fourth paragraph from the bottom from his Hockey Hall of Fame page mentions it. No photos.

    link

    Marlins manager Jack McKeon skippered the team to the World Series title link.

    In a past issue of Sports Illustrated, there’s also a great picture of Sparky Anderson filling out his lineup card while he’s smoking a pipe.

    [quote comment=”227797″][quote comment=”227795″][quote comment=”227789″]Original Six uniforms on the big screen?

    Blackhawks uniforms
    Wayne’s World 2
    link

    Clark Griswold // Natonal Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation
    link

    Red Wings
    Gordie Howe // Ferris Buller’s Day Off
    link

    Other recollections of NHL O-6 in the movies???[/quote]

    Blackhawks played the Pens in Sudden Death if I am not mistaken.[/quote]
    The charecter Doug in Cutting Edge had a Hull Hawks Jersey

    Let’s not forget the movie the Mighty Ducks 3 when the JV team comes out in the 3rd period wearing the NHL team’s jerseys, only to go on and beat the mighty varsity. Who saw that one coming?

    The movie The Rocket had some nice views of original 6 teams too as it is the story of Henri Richard. Kinda weird watching a French movie with English dubbing though[/quote]

    Also I think it was in Mighty Ducks 2 or the first that they got to meet the Minnesota North Stars…… Oscar winning material by Mike Modono if I say so myself…… God I hate thise movies.

    With all the talk of the deaf playing sports, how abotu this one posted on CNN – Blind vet learns to ski.

    link

    [quote comment=”227890″][quote comment=”227881″]And how many guys have to die? How many kids have to end up fatherless? Is one too few but two too many?
    [/quote]

    Who’s died? No helmet would have saved Mike Coolbaugh, who was struck in the neck.

    That’s why this is an hysterical over-reaction: it makes good copy, it makes people feel better, but it doesn’t actually address a real problem. Empty window dressing.[/quote]

    As I said above, I’m not going to agree or disagree that a Helmet would have saved Coolbaugh, but if we have the technology to help make someone safer and that technology is not too intrusive then what is the harm when the reward COULD BE great?

    link is non intrusive. (I support wearing this on the field)

    link would be the opposite. (This would be going overboard.)

    [quote comment=”227835″]any chance for a UW petition to get this guy to link?[/quote]
    Good luck! Maybe when he’s pitching for the Dodgers in a couple of years

    [quote comment=”227846″][quote]I’ve done my civic duty today and voted against the black.[/quote]

    Me too.[/quote]

    Thank You America!

    [quote comment=”227890″][quote comment=”227881″]And how many guys have to die? How many kids have to end up fatherless? Is one too few but two too many?
    [/quote]

    Who’s died? No helmet would have saved Mike Coolbaugh, who was struck in the neck.

    That’s why this is an hysterical over-reaction: it makes good copy, it makes people feel better, but it doesn’t actually address a real problem. Empty window dressing.[/quote]

    Over reaction… maybe. But, hysterical, or stupid (as you insinuated)… no. What’s wrong with a little preventative maintenance… or preventative protection in this case. I’ve been playing baseball for many years, but have never been hit in the nuts… yet I wear a cup. Seems kind of stupid to to NOT wear a helmet. The base coach is not always looking at the batter and won’t have reaction time like a pitcher, baseman, or base runner will. This means they will have much less reaction time. Why not wear a helmet?

    We all know that Coolbaugh may have lived without a helmet since he got hit in the neck, but what happens in the future if someone does die from a baseball to the head? People will be asking why they hadn’t been wearing helmets all along.

    Seems like an insignificant detail that won’t affect the game negatively at all and has a chance to affect it positively by protecting lives.

    I don’t understand what the argument against it could possibly be.

    The argument against it is simple – there isn’t the slightest documented need. It’s empty-headed, fuzzy, feel-good nonsense.

    Why not make every single spectator wear a protective helmet? Surely they’re in greater danger than base coaches – a greater number of fans have been hit by bats and balls.

    Stripes! Check out the new (this season) link worn by the Tennessee men’s basketball team…this is old news but they’ve just recently been for sale to the general public.

    [quote comment=”227812″][quote comment=”227759″][quote comment=”227751″]If you look closely at the link in post #16, it appears the catcher is wearing an Under Armour link as well. Makes sense, if UA is making chest protectors, they probably are doing masks and shin guards as well.

    [quote]Any idea what is written on the lowest part of the mask?

    Is Under Armour the mother company for All-Star or Vice-Versa b/c that catcher’s gear is the same gear that All-Star sells, except the logos. Take a look at link from last year.[/quote][/quote][/quote]

    I thought that too, but I looked into it and All Star is apparently part of Ampac Enterprises, which has no relation whatsoever to Under Armour. It does look exactly the same though, from the arrangement of the chest pads even down to the binding on the shoulders. What I’m really interested in seeing is the back of that chest protector… if it has the weird triangle look of the All Star ones, then it really will seem like a rip.

    In other spring training news, Miguel Tejada might be giving us a reason to forgive him for his Mitchell Report appearance… link.

    [quote comment=”227842″][quote comment=”227833″]Wasn’t there an SI cover of a baseball player smoking, I’m too young to remember his name, I think it was Dick Allen. I think someone posted a pic of him with the A’s the other day with Sachem, the name of his high school, as his nameplate.

    link[/quote]
    Hmmm. Wherever did you find it? :^J[/quote]

    I have in fact, committed the number one cardinal sin of Uni-Watch and not read through the opening entirely. Shame on me, but please pardon me for I am home this week at the beckon call of my bosswife and do not possess the time necessary for such behaviors. Next week, when I am back at work ,with time aplenty, I will atone for my sins.

    P.S. Sorry about the Under Armour thing, again I assumed that I was being helpful!

    [quote comment=”227868″]So with J-Kidd officially becoming a Mav, what are they going to do about his number situation? J-Ho already wears number 5. Does he give up the number or does J-Kidd go back to wearing 32 like in his Suns days?

    Anyone know this already?[/quote]

    Get yours now at the Mavs’ online store

    link

    [quote comment=”227885″][quote comment=”227855″][quote comment=”227789″]
    Other recollections of NHL O-6 in the movies???[/quote]

    John Candy in summer rental
    link[/quote]

    Joey Lauren Adams in “Chasing Amy” wearing a Leafs Felix Potvin jersey.

    Also, word is that Viggo Mortensen would often show up on the Toronto set of A “History Of Violence” wearing a Habs jersey.[/quote]

    “Chasing Amy” in my mind, the bst of the Kevin Smith films. However, in another of his, “Dogma”, I believe there are evil, hockey playing minions who don Hockey sweaters, are any of them Original SIx?

    [quote comment=”227812″][quote comment=”227759″][quote comment=”227751″]If you look closely at the link in post #16, it appears the catcher is wearing an Under Armour link as well. Makes sense, if UA is making chest protectors, they probably are doing masks and shin guards as well.

    quote] Any idea what is written on the lowest part of the mask?[/quote]

    Is Under Armour the mother company for All-Star or Vice-Versa b/c that catcher’s gear is the same gear that All-Star sells, except the logos. Take a look at link from last year.[/quote]

    All Star has been having some financial problems the past few years and Under Armour has wanted to enter the protective business…wouldnt surprise me if UA sub-contracted AS out to make their gear this year….you would think that they would do something (anything) to change it up a little though

    [quote comment=”227845″]South Dakota State University unveils link.[/quote]
    All-in-all, I like it. I remember the concepts that they were letting people vote on. This is exponentially better than any of those choices. It looks good…very good.

    [quote comment=”227919″]The argument against it is simple – there isn’t the slightest documented need. It’s empty-headed, fuzzy, feel-good nonsense.

    Why not make every single spectator wear a protective helmet? Surely they’re in greater danger than base coaches – a greater number of fans have been hit by bats and balls.[/quote]

    This may be the dumbest argument against base coaches wearing helmets and I’ve heard it from several people. Are you going to tell me that since it hasn’t happened before it will never happen in the future?

    How many people thought face masks were dumb when they were first used in a football game? Now we know that they prevent a lot of injuries. How many people fought against batting helmets. Now imagine in players were not wearing helmets when they stepped into the box. I can’t imagine what would happen to all the players that are plunked in the head.

    What about the net behind the plate?

    Sometimes you need to add something whether there has been an incident or not. Sometimes just a scare of an incident (like with Coolbaugh) can trigger the reaction to start preventing future problems. What would Juan Encarnacion be doing right now if it weren’t for the helmet he was wearing in the on deck circle? Nobody knows because he WAS wearing the helmet. But, there is proof that helmets can protect you if you do get hit. So why NOT wear one.

    Also, since the base coach is under contract with a team and thus MLB in general the powers that be can make a rule saying that they have to wear a helmet. You can’t make a rule saying that people that are paying to go to a baseball game have to wear a helmet…. so there goes that theory too.

    [quote comment=”227935″][quote comment=”227919″]The argument against it is simple – there isn’t the slightest documented need. It’s empty-headed, fuzzy, feel-good nonsense.

    Why not make every single spectator wear a protective helmet? Surely they’re in greater danger than base coaches – a greater number of fans have been hit by bats and balls.[/quote]

    This may be the dumbest argument against base coaches wearing helmets and I’ve heard it from several people. Are you going to tell me that since it hasn’t happened before it will never happen in the future?

    How many people thought face masks were dumb when they were first used in a football game? Now we know that they prevent a lot of injuries. How many people fought against batting helmets. Now imagine in players were not wearing helmets when they stepped into the box. I can’t imagine what would happen to all the players that are plunked in the head.

    What about the net behind the plate?

    Sometimes you need to add something whether there has been an incident or not. Sometimes just a scare of an incident (like with Coolbaugh) can trigger the reaction to start preventing future problems. What would Juan Encarnacion be doing right now if it weren’t for the helmet he was wearing in the on deck circle? Nobody knows because he WAS wearing the helmet. But, there is proof that helmets can protect you if you do get hit. So why NOT wear one.

    Also, since the base coach is under contract with a team and thus MLB in general the powers that be can make a rule saying that they have to wear a helmet. You can’t make a rule saying that people that are paying to go to a baseball game have to wear a helmet…. so there goes that theory too.[/quote]

    Oh and don’t you think the parents of the girl who was killed when a puck hit her in the face wish the NHL had thought to put nets behind the glass a few years earlier? People probably would have said there was no reason to put nets up there since no one had been hit and died before.

    [quote comment=”227915″]ok…so it’s not a original six…but it is link

    /classic gretz la la sweater[/quote]

    So who’s idea do you think it is when Vince Vaughn plays sports video games in his movies? He played Madden in The Break-Up

    i’m not going to rehash all the helmets-on-coaches arguments, since i already said my piece way back when…

    i simply want to say this

    has a base coach ever…EVER…been prevented from wearing a helmet?

    no?

    didn’t think so

    see…the argument is akin to seatbelts (although i recall catching shit for that analogy)…i want them in my car, but it’s MY CHOICE not to use them…we are not prohibiting coaches (and never have) from wearing helmets…it should be their choice to wear them

    …and after i said this i got hammered with comments such as “people are stupid…and athletes are especially stupid” (to justify the MANDATORY wearing of the helmets)

    there is, i guess, no gray area with this…either you favor the MANDATORY use of helmets for coaches or you don’t…but NO ONE is arguing that coaches shouldn’t be ALLOWED to wear one…only that it be made mandatory

    /done

    Entertaining little story from the Boston Herald:

    [quote]Two members of the Red Sox outfield made appearances, with center fielder Jacoby Ellsbury swinging by the complex to drop his things off in the morning… When Ellsbury went to organize his things in his locker, he was presented with a subtle reminder that he still maintains rookie status despite his late-season success in 2007. The glove left by Rawlings with his name on it was for the wrong hand. Ironically, it was the second time the outfielder has been given a personalized glove for a right-handed-throwing fielder instead of the left-handed model he uses… Needless to say, the mistake didn’t go unnoticed. A group of players including Schilling, Tim Wakefield and Doug Mirabelli took the opportunity to give some good-natured ribbing to well-respected Rawlings representative Steve Cohen.[/quote]

    From link.

    [quote comment=”227894″]Also I think it was in Mighty Ducks 2 or the first that they got to meet the Minnesota North Stars…… Oscar winning material by Mike Modono if I say so myself…… God I hate thise movies.[/quote]
    It was in the first Mighty Ducks movie that they met Basil McCrae & Mike Modano. They were in the area as a treat from their coach, Gordon Bombay (Emilio Esteves)for making the playoffs.

    D2: The Mighty Ducks is when the team travels to LA to compete in an international competition like the Junior Olympics.

    God I LOVE those movies.

    Looks like Gagne is forgoing the BP hat. Doesn’t he usually go without?

    link

    PS-I love Spring Training if for nothing else, a slew of these types of action photos.

    [quote comment=”227954″]Sorry, didn’t include the quote.

    LI Phil, well put. that’s wxactly what I’m talking about.[/quote]

    thanks…i seem to recall you and i were one of the few who agreed on the mandatory wearing of helmets…and how it was really a non-issue

    link

    [quote comment=”227761″]I know this has nothing to do with the smoking, but I remember watching one of the Reds’ World Series from ’75 or ’76 on ESPN Classic and one of the Reds players (can’t remember who) was chewing on a toothpick while he was up to bat.

    Weird to see someone with something dangling from his mouth swinging the bat…[/quote]
    U.L. Washington of the KC Royals used to ALWAYS have a toothpick in his mouth.

    COACHES HELMETS

    What do you honestly think is more likely to happen in the next 10 years: A) A first- or third-base coach being killed by a line drive, or B) A terrorist attack at a professional sporting event?

    If your answer is B, and you still think coaches should have helmets (because of the “what if” factor) then you must believe that all professional sporting events should be televised without any spectators in the stands.

    Just in case.

    Somebody might have linked this already, but the Kissing Suzy Kolber blog posted this hilarious NFL promotional commercial, and Deadspin linked it too. I don’t know if it’s simply a huge coincidence or one blog influenced the other. It’s a fun clip with a whole bunch of fun cartoon depictions of football mascots and old tobacco ad clichés.

    link

    [quote comment=”227894″][quote comment=”227797″][quote comment=”227795″][quote comment=”227789″]Original Six uniforms on the big screen?

    Blackhawks uniforms
    Wayne’s World 2
    link

    Clark Griswold // Natonal Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation
    link

    Red Wings
    Gordie Howe // Ferris Buller’s Day Off
    link

    Other recollections of NHL O-6 in the movies???[/quote]

    Blackhawks played the Pens in Sudden Death if I am not mistaken.[/quote]
    The charecter Doug in Cutting Edge had a Hull Hawks Jersey

    Let’s not forget the movie the Mighty Ducks 3 when the JV team comes out in the 3rd period wearing the NHL team’s jerseys, only to go on and beat the mighty varsity. Who saw that one coming?

    The movie The Rocket had some nice views of original 6 teams too as it is the story of Henri Richard. Kinda weird watching a French movie with English dubbing though[/quote]

    Also I think it was in Mighty Ducks 2 or the first that they got to meet the Minnesota North Stars…… Oscar winning material by Mike Modono if I say so myself…… God I hate thise movies.[/quote]
    The original Mighty Ducks – they met the North Stars – however – the North Stars are not Original 6.

    [quote comment=”227868″]So with J-Kidd officially becoming a Mav, what are they going to do about his number situation? J-Ho already wears number 5. Does he give up the number or does J-Kidd go back to wearing 32 like in his Suns days?

    Anyone know this already?[/quote]

    I’m watching the news conference and kidd just received a number 2 jersey.

    [quote comment=”227935″]

    How many people thought face masks were dumb when they were first used in a football game? Now we know that they prevent a lot of injuries.

    What about the net behind the plate?
    [/quote]
    football players get hit in the face routinely.

    The fans in the front row at most stadiums are closer than the base coaches. The fans are turning away form the action to talk to each other and get the vendors attention. Unless the base coaches start to do those things they should be able to pay attention to where the ball is.

    [quote comment=”227936″][quote comment=”227935″][quote comment=”227919″]The argument against it is simple – there isn’t the slightest documented need. It’s empty-headed, fuzzy, feel-good nonsense.

    Why not make every single spectator wear a protective helmet? Surely they’re in greater danger than base coaches – a greater number of fans have been hit by bats and balls.[/quote]

    This may be the dumbest argument against base coaches wearing helmets and I’ve heard it from several people. Are you going to tell me that since it hasn’t happened before it will never happen in the future?

    How many people thought face masks were dumb when they were first used in a football game? Now we know that they prevent a lot of injuries. How many people fought against batting helmets. Now imagine in players were not wearing helmets when they stepped into the box. I can’t imagine what would happen to all the players that are plunked in the head.

    What about the net behind the plate?

    Sometimes you need to add something whether there has been an incident or not. Sometimes just a scare of an incident (like with Coolbaugh) can trigger the reaction to start preventing future problems. What would Juan Encarnacion be doing right now if it weren’t for the helmet he was wearing in the on deck circle? Nobody knows because he WAS wearing the helmet. But, there is proof that helmets can protect you if you do get hit. So why NOT wear one.

    Also, since the base coach is under contract with a team and thus MLB in general the powers that be can make a rule saying that they have to wear a helmet. You can’t make a rule saying that people that are paying to go to a baseball game have to wear a helmet…. so there goes that theory too.[/quote]

    Oh and don’t you think the parents of the girl who was killed when a puck hit her in the face wish the NHL had thought to put nets behind the glass a few years earlier? People probably would have said there was no reason to put nets up there since no one had been hit and died before.[/quote]

    Maybe, just maybe they should have been paying attention to the game and would have seen the puck coming. Back in ’94 at the old Chicago stadium I caught a puck that came into the stands, why, because I was following the action and saw it coming.

    Other recollections of NHL O-6 in the movies???

    John Candy in summer rental

    Joey Lauren Adams in “Chasing Amy” wearing a Leafs Felix Potvin jersey.

    Also, word is that Viggo Mortensen would often show up on the Toronto set of A “History Of Violence” wearing a Habs jersey.

    “Chasing Amy” in my mind, the bst of the Kevin Smith films. However, in another of his, “Dogma”, I believe there are evil, hockey playing minions who don Hockey sweaters, are any of them Original SIx?

    there HAS to be someone wearing an O-6 jersey on the rooftop hockey scene in clerks! i know the pens are well represented!

    [quote comment=”227996″][quote comment=”227936″][quote comment=”227935″][quote comment=”227919″]The argument against it is simple – there isn’t the slightest documented need. It’s empty-headed, fuzzy, feel-good nonsense.

    Why not make every single spectator wear a protective helmet? Surely they’re in greater danger than base coaches – a greater number of fans have been hit by bats and balls.[/quote]

    This may be the dumbest argument against base coaches wearing helmets and I’ve heard it from several people. Are you going to tell me that since it hasn’t happened before it will never happen in the future?

    How many people thought face masks were dumb when they were first used in a football game? Now we know that they prevent a lot of injuries. How many people fought against batting helmets. Now imagine in players were not wearing helmets when they stepped into the box. I can’t imagine what would happen to all the players that are plunked in the head.

    What about the net behind the plate?

    Sometimes you need to add something whether there has been an incident or not. Sometimes just a scare of an incident (like with Coolbaugh) can trigger the reaction to start preventing future problems. What would Juan Encarnacion be doing right now if it weren’t for the helmet he was wearing in the on deck circle? Nobody knows because he WAS wearing the helmet. But, there is proof that helmets can protect you if you do get hit. So why NOT wear one.

    Also, since the base coach is under contract with a team and thus MLB in general the powers that be can make a rule saying that they have to wear a helmet. You can’t make a rule saying that people that are paying to go to a baseball game have to wear a helmet…. so there goes that theory too.[/quote]

    Oh and don’t you think the parents of the girl who was killed when a puck hit her in the face wish the NHL had thought to put nets behind the glass a few years earlier? People probably would have said there was no reason to put nets up there since no one had been hit and died before.[/quote]

    Maybe, just maybe they should have been paying attention to the game and would have seen the puck coming. Back in ’94 at the old Chicago stadium I caught a puck that came into the stands, why, because I was following the action and saw it coming.[/quote]

    I was at an Islander’s game in the late 80’s or early 90’s before they had glass covering the penalty boxes and announcing area. At this game a puck flew into the announcers head and to this day I can remember him bleeding all over his suit and the ice as they walked him to the dressing room. Do you think he wasn’t paying attention? Later in the year that whole area was covered with glass and there was only a small hole for pucks to be slid through.

    Now I’m going to reiterate what I said before…

    I’m not going to agree or disagree that a Helmet would have saved Coolbaugh, but if we have the technology to help make someone safer and that technology is not too intrusive then what is the harm when the reward COULD BE great?

    link is non intrusive. (I support wearing this on the field)

    link would be the opposite. (This would be going overboard.)

    [quote comment=”227994″][quote comment=”227868″]So with J-Kidd officially becoming a Mav, what are they going to do about his number situation? J-Ho already wears number 5. Does he give up the number or does J-Kidd go back to wearing 32 like in his Suns days?

    Anyone know this already?[/quote]

    I’m watching the news conference and kidd just received a number 2 jersey.[/quote]

    Someone just asked why he chose 2. Well…
    1. It’s his second time around in Dallas.
    2. A 2 upside down, kinda looks like a 5.

    A few weeks back I was at a Caps game here in DC and a puck left the ice on a rope and woman took it in the head. Lots of blood, but she looked to be ok. She was not paying attention and the net did nothing to stop the puck. Last game I was at a puck flipped up and over the net and fell onto the head of a guy right in front me. the puck split his head wide open…LOTS of blood. Moral of the story….pay attention, the net only does so much. Base coaches…pay attention, wear the helmet if you want.

    [quote comment=”227962″][quote comment=”227761″]I know this has nothing to do with the smoking, but I remember watching one of the Reds’ World Series from ’75 or ’76 on ESPN Classic and one of the Reds players (can’t remember who) was chewing on a toothpick while he was up to bat.

    Weird to see someone with something dangling from his mouth swinging the bat…[/quote]
    U.L. Washington of the KC Royals used to ALWAYS have a toothpick in his mouth.[/quote]

    Ditto link with the toothpick.

    [quote comment=”227997″]Other recollections of NHL O-6 in the movies???

    John Candy in summer rental

    Joey Lauren Adams in “Chasing Amy” wearing a Leafs Felix Potvin jersey.

    Also, word is that Viggo Mortensen would often show up on the Toronto set of A “History Of Violence” wearing a Habs jersey.

    “Chasing Amy” in my mind, the bst of the Kevin Smith films. However, in another of his, “Dogma”, I believe there are evil, hockey playing minions who don Hockey sweaters, are any of them Original SIx?

    there HAS to be someone wearing an O-6 jersey on the rooftop hockey scene in clerks! i know the pens are well represented![/quote]

    Not O6 but David Putty in his Devils sweater and makeup is priceless

    [quote comment=”228010″]link[/quote]
    The glove forces the player to receive the ball rather then “catching” it…the fielder has to use his throwing hand and give with the ball.

    [quote comment=”228012″][quote comment=”228010″]link[/quote]
    The glove forces the player to receive the ball rather then “catching” it…the fielder has to use his throwing hand and give with the ball.[/quote]

    wouldn’t that be a “mitt”?

    [quote comment=”228014″][quote comment=”228012″][quote comment=”228010″]link[/quote]
    The glove forces the player to receive the ball rather then “catching” it…the fielder has to use his throwing hand and give with the ball.[/quote]

    wouldn’t that be a “mitt”?[/quote]

    This is a link

    [quote comment=”227763″]Dale Jr. has a Redskin’s logo on his glasses?

    Looks like a Chevy logo to me.

    You would not be far off…

    Might not be the Redskins logo but Jr. is a huge Redskins fan. When we were working with Dan Snyder on the Redskins black alternate uni, we met with Dan and he had a replica Dale Jr car (small scale of course) in his office and mentioned Dale’s passion for the Redskins. Not sure if there’s a Gibbs tie in there or not?

    link

    TOG, just wanted some extra info about the Redskins black alternate uni’s. As a big ‘Skins fan I hadn’t come across this before. Anyone?

    [quote comment=”228015″][quote comment=”228014″][quote comment=”228012″][quote comment=”228010″]link[/quote]
    The glove forces the player to receive the ball rather then “catching” it…the fielder has to use his throwing hand and give with the ball.[/quote]

    wouldn’t that be a “mitt”?[/quote]

    This is a link[/quote]

    link

    link

    /other than the dashed hopes of a commonwealth

    Hugo Sanchez – past Mexican soccer hero and current National Team manager – is notorious for his tight jeans and smokes on the sideline during the game. I wondered what would happen if he lit up during a game in the non-smoking buildings of the USA but have yet to see him do it.

    YO — Was anyone else watching SportsCenter at the beginning? Did you see how Robert Flores looked like a freaking HOBIT next to Josh Elliot??? Any information on how big Elliot is?? He looks 6’10” next to Flores. But it wasn’t just the height…Flores looked like he won a contest to be on the show as a 3rd grader….high comedy

    [quote comment=”227734″]there is a difference between cigar smokers.

    you have the cigar smoker. the guy who just smokes cigars… just like they are cigarettes.

    the event cigar smoker. the guy who smokes at events. golf, race track, etc.

    the celebration cigar smoker.

    the guy who smokes in celebration of something. bachelor party, wedding, baby, championship, etc.

    you have to distinguish which is which. i used to be an event and celebration smoker.

    one man who was all 3 at once was larry laoretti. winner of the 1992 us senior open.[/quote]

    What about the guy who just chews on a cut cigar and never lights it?

    If Leyland grows out his ‘stache a little bit more and replaces that square with a Pipe….he would be the most distinguished Manager in all of baseball!

    link

    [quote comment=”228043″][quote comment=”227734″]there is a difference between cigar smokers.

    you have the cigar smoker. the guy who just smokes cigars… just like they are cigarettes.

    the event cigar smoker. the guy who smokes at events. golf, race track, etc.

    the celebration cigar smoker.

    the guy who smokes in celebration of something. bachelor party, wedding, baby, championship, etc.

    you have to distinguish which is which. i used to be an event and celebration smoker.

    one man who was all 3 at once was larry laoretti. winner of the 1992 us senior open.[/quote]

    What about the guy who just chews on a cut cigar and never lights it?[/quote]
    There is poker player Sam Farha (Chris Moneymaker’s bridesmaid in the Main Event, IIRC), who goes through unlit cigarettes for good luck. He doesn’t smoke, and WSOP events are non-smoking, but he will literally have a cigarette dangling from his mouth for good luck.

    [quote comment=”227918″]“Is this some sort of new Maple Leafs uniform?”[/quote]
    link

    Someone, likely an O-6 anti-Leaf fan (or a Canadiens or Sens fan), posted that on the Cramer boards ages ago as a joke. The man in question has a collection of Peter Pan costumes, and before you go out there and say he’s a switch-hitter (and no, not of the baseball variety), he’s getting married soon to a gal who dresses as Tinker Bell.

    South Dakota State University (my alma mater) has unvelied their new logo(s) for the Jackrabbits. Very disappionted as they went for the pissed off look rather than the happy go lucky rabbit.
    link

    Here’s the old logo…
    link

    [quote comment=”228066″]Check out Fidel Castro in come old link link link.

    Apparently he liked the shirts link too!![/quote]
    [quote comment=”228077″]WHO SAYS THERE’S NOTHING GOOD ABOUT COMMUNISM??!!!
    link

    FAIL!

    stirrups are backwards

    [quote comment=”228068″]South Dakota State University (my alma mater) has unvelied their new logo(s) for the Jackrabbits. Very disappionted as they went for the pissed off look rather than the happy go lucky rabbit.
    link

    Here’s the old logo…
    link

    I went to SDSU as well. While I was upset they were going to change the logo and had seen the one they decided to go with it isn’t that bad. Some getting to. I do wish they would change to navy from royal blue though.

    [quote comment=”228082″]looks like the Rangers are considering going back to red uniforms.

    link[/quote]

    The Rangers are effing killing me! They were up 5-0 and now it’s 5-5 in overtime! WTF???

    The New York Rangers are effing killing me! They were up 5-0 and now it’s 5-5 in overtime! WTF???

    [quote comment=”228000″][quote comment=”227994″][quote comment=”227868″]So with J-Kidd officially becoming a Mav, what are they going to do about his number situation? J-Ho already wears number 5. Does he give up the number or does J-Kidd go back to wearing 32 like in his Suns days?

    Anyone know this already?[/quote]

    I’m watching the news conference and kidd just received a number 2 jersey.[/quote]

    Someone just asked why he chose 2. Well…
    1. It’s his second time around in Dallas.
    2. A 2 upside down, kinda looks like a 5.[/quote]
    Or he’s always so full of shit.

    Love my wife (and then beat her).

    [quote comment=”227701″]dick trickle used to smoke in his car during nascar caution laps (back in the day. google “dick trickle smoking”. couldn’t find pictures).

    and i remember seeing a picture of al iafrate of the cpaitals lighting a cig with the blow torch he used to fix the curve on his stick. can’t find the picture though.

    phil? anything on either???[/quote]

    Ah, Dick Trickle. The times when the Sportscenter guys used to crack up on that name…

    [quote comment=”228077″]WHO SAYS THERE’S NOTHING GOOD ABOUT COMMUNISM??!!!
    link
    I do !
    Tear down this island wall MR Castro.

    link It looks like Houston’s new shortstop will keep #10. Miguel Tejada wore #4 with the Oakland Athletics, but changed to #10 with the Baltimore Orioles because #4 is retired there (for Earl Weaver). He was also #10 for the Dominican WBC team. I, for one, thought he really prefered #4 and would go back to that number, but apparently, his more recent number prevailed.

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