Marlins Wordmark

By Phil Hecken


Those were the three words Florida Miami Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria used to describe the new uniforms of the South Florida baseball team.

So…how’d they do?

Let’s start with the logo, which isn’t exactly breaking news, since it leaked quite some time ago. It’s a very distinctive, four-color, beveled “M”, featuring gold, orange, aqua and black (outlined in gray), with an image of a marlin atop the “M”. It’s a rather bold statement, but it looks like the 2012 Marlins aren’t your father’s Marlins. When I first saw this, I didn’t really like it, but it’s grown on me. A lot.

OK … onto the uniforms:

Home Whites: We got a bit of a preview of the homes yesterday, but last night was the official unveiling. It’s different, but it still looks like a baseball uniform. It takes the aforementioned wordmark and puts it on a white uniform, with thin orange piping around the neck, sleeve ends, and pants. At the unveiling, Loria explained that “Miami” will be very prominent, and that both the homes and roads will have “MIAMI” emblazoned on the chest. It’s not bad — I’d prefer “Marlins” on the chest, and perhaps in a year or two, they’ll do it, but for their inaugural season in the as-yet-to-be-corporately-named ballpark, they’ll be the Miami Miamis. Gone are the pinstripes, the block “F,” the teal…and Jack McKeon. In with the Ozzie.

Road Grays: Almost the reciprocal of the home whites, the jersey wordmark will be in white, with black piping, also with “MIAMI” on the chest.

Alternate Black: Never have been a fan of the Marlins with a black top (and cap), but it looks like the team will be keeping that element going forward. I mean, nothing says “South Florida” like a black uniform, right? Seems like most of the models were wearing the black top with gray pants, so hopefully this will only be used as a road alternate. Still not a fan of the black cap & top, but what’re ya gonna do?

Now…if that were it, I’d be pretty disappointed, but the Marlins aren’t done. Now, they’ve already shown us one alternate too many, but what’s one more right? We knew yesterday, when this was leaked there would be an orange top. But what we didn’t know was…

Orange Alternate: The spec sheet would show an orange cap! It’s a GREAT alternate (if you have to have an alternate). Unfortunately, the players only came out wearing the black cap with the orange top. Let’s hope that’s just for show. Unlike the white, gray and black jerseys, the orange jersey says “MARLINS” and features the flying fish jumping between the “L” and the “I”. I like it.

The Marlins really had a chance to stand out from other clubs with this unveil, and to a certain extent (read: look at the orange tops), they did. Unfortunately, they still seem to have a heavy preponderance of black. Their pullovers and dugout jackets are both black, and I believe their BP jerseys are as well.

One thing I also like are the unique number fonts, although I can’t see why they need the drop shadow. Oh well, it is Miami. It’s hard to tell from this screen grab, but it appears the orange tops may be drop-shadowless. Maybe.

So, they’ve got a new uniform set, a new stadium, a new city-name…and it looks like they’re trying to make a big splash in the free agent market. Reports are they met with and offered contracts to both Albert Pujols and Jose Reyes. In fact, by the time you read this, Reyes may be a Marlin. These are not your father’s Marlins, no sir.

Overall, I’d give the uniforms a B+. Not because they’re great, but because they’re much more reflective of South Florida — the boldly colored “M” and wordmark are certainly unique without being completely overboard, and even though I hate softball tops, I hope to see that orange alt as often as possible next season. Good job, Miami Miamis, you’ve done South Florida proud.


67274162All Hands on Deck…

Yesterday afternoon, the Tar Heels and Spartans hooked up in a camouflage-themed duel atop a carrier deck.

If that wasn’t surreal enough, the game was kicked off by Commander-in-Chief, who watched the game with First Lady Michelle Obama. It was all part of the Veterans Day festivities that featured the number one ranked Tar Heels and Spartans playing on the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson.

Say what you will about the unnecessary gimmicky uniforms or the long sleeves (it was outdoors, ya know), this was quite possibly the most beautiful outdoor playground most of us will ever see. I was just hoping that someone would see if they could kick the ball into the water. No such luck.

I bet Roy Williams (pictured with some guy who looks familiar) could have done it with those steel-toed boots.

Lots and lots more photos here and here.

Some good closeups of the uniforms (prior to the game being played) in the video below:


50 Years Ago This Week50 Years Ago…This Weekend

Back again with Rick Pearson who is here to bring us his look at the featured ABC television college football matchup from 50 years ago. As always, Rick documented the game via his “kid cards”. Here’s Rick to tell us about it.


Nov. 11, 1961”¦Minnesota at Iowa

Wk9 61 Card

How ”˜bout that. Gophers the one and only TV game two weeks in a row, this time against the other Big Team powerhouse. … Gophers changed their road unis as much as anyone, switching to gold pants and adding UCLA jersey stripes/loops. … Not a bad idea; their first roads with that set were a tad nondescript. … Iowa in their typical Iowa look, using the standard template that had been employed by the Steelers, Packers, Oklahoma, Michigan State and plenty of others (including Minnesota) in the early 1950s. … The players? HB Bill Munsey was drafted by the Detroit Lions, but spent four seasons with the B.C. Lions. … Cloyd Webb? Oh, man, one of my favorite college players ever. … Played DE, too, cuz most players still played on both sides of the ball. … Drafted by Bears and Bills; signed with Bills but also ended up in CFL. … Had short career that included a few games for Winnipeg and then a year or two with Hamilton.


Great job, once again, Rick. Loved your “painting” of Cloyd Webb!


all sport uni tweaksUni Tweaks

We have another new set of tweaks today.

If you have a tweak, change or concept for any sport, send them my way.

Remember, if possible, try to keep your descriptions to ~50 words (give or take) per tweak. You guys have been great at keeping to that, and it’s much appreciated!

And so, lets begin:


We start with Adam Walter, who takes a comical look at the Winter Classic…


If the NFL got to design the jerseys for the NHL Winter Classic



Next up is Jordan Woodson, with the first of some Tar Heel tweaks:

First, modified UNC sweatback. The sweatbacks are bad, but if UNC had to do them, they could have at least used some design sense in the pattern used. Simplified it, and made it more ‘classic’… if that is possible.

Second, UNC procombats. Not much to it here, just using some sublimated argyle.

Third, a mock of a potential UNC digital camo, similar to the ones possible leaked for Mich. St for the upcoming Carrier Classic.


And closing down today is Andy Miller, who also has some UNC concepts:

Hey Phil,

Love the site. I have some concepts for The University of North Carolina’s football program. For years I’ve thought that North Carolina has had an opportunity to use their classic basketball uniform designs on the football uniforms, in order to bring some symmetry to the jerseys of the university’s major programs. The part that stands out the most on North Carolina’s basketball jerseys is, of course, the side inserts with the diamonds. So, I transferred those to the football uniforms and added an alternate uniform that incorporates the school’s use of navy blue in their colors.

The jerseys follow the same pattern for home, away and alternate. White helmets, white face masks, for a cleaner look. (Though, I don’t have it illustrated, they would have one of the old school Carolina logos on the side… either the Tarheel foot, or the Old School Ram, both of which I’ve included), and each jersey has the side insert with the diamond-design.

– Andy Miller


Thanks fellas. Back with more tomorrow.


Benchies HeaderBenchies

by Rick Pearson


Ah, Ol’ Eddie, he knew ye well…

11-12-11 d-thorpe

And the full-size.


Got a funny E-mail yesterday, making a prediction for tomorrow’s “5 & 1.” Dig:

I’ve gone to the trouble of predicting the 5 & 1 for tomorrow’s games.

5, in no particular order:
-Tulane and whoever they are playing
-Random SEC match-up and/or
-A couple teams with stripes
-Two teams with nothing special about their uniforms or full of grey
-Two teams that actually look good

1. Maryland/Notre Dame, even though…

Terp Tracker: Best uniform of the season

-Rex Henry

Thanks Rex. Perhaps you can fill in for Jim every week some time.


That’s going to do it for today folks. For anyone who isn’t aware, we’re having the annual Uni Watch gathering today at Sheep Station in beautiful downtown Brooklyn, in the Park Slope section, from 2:00 till whenever. C’mon down if you’re around, get yourself a Uni Watch sticker (right after you watch the Penn State/Nebraska game–I’m not sure, but that one might be somewhat interesting), and have a drink with this guy. And if you didn’t get a chance to check out yesterday’s post, give it a read. Paul gives us a preview of the special uniform Notre Dame will be wearing today — and he’ll be bringing it down to Sheep Station (yet another reason to stop by). See (some of) you in a few hours.


“Penn State Football Promo Box includes:

1) Stop Snitchin’ T-shirt
2) Bucket of sand (to bury one’s head in)
3) “See no evil, Hear no Evil, Say no Evil” monkey figurines made in China”

–The Ratner Factor


And now, your moment of zen:

250 comments to ‘Cool…Miami…International’

  • Louis | November 12, 2011 at 7:22 am |

    I like the new Marlins’ logo, and I too like the orange alt. An orange cap would great. As for the black alt, I have to say the logo stands out nicer against the black. In all, the new look is a nice departure from the old look.

  • DJ | November 12, 2011 at 7:27 am |

    When you went to the Marlins’ online store, the photo of a personalized orange jersey seemed to look like the drop shadow on the black numbers was aqua. I didn’t look on a blown-up shot of it, though.

  • odessasteps | November 12, 2011 at 7:28 am |

    Scotland had a poppy malfunction during their international match Friday. The poppies were not sticking to their armbands the Scottish team was wearing.


  • Keith | November 12, 2011 at 7:29 am |

    Is it me, or does the logo on the Marlins caps seem waaaaaay too big?

    • Ferguson D. | November 12, 2011 at 9:11 am |

      Definitely. ~1992 cheap knock-off big.

    • lemonverbena_ | November 12, 2011 at 10:27 am |

      Oversize logos on caps seems to be a thing right now.

    • pushbutton | November 12, 2011 at 11:12 am |

      My biggest peeve. A half-inch smaller would look so much classier.

    • Chicago Shep | November 12, 2011 at 2:19 pm |

      Fashion cap big. It reminds me of a turn ahead the clock cap. The rest of the unis are ok, the orange being my fave due to the flying marlin, but the caps look ridiculous as is. Let’s hope for a last-second fix!

    • chuck | November 12, 2011 at 3:30 pm |

      The cap would look good if the M were smaller. The huge M looks cartoonish to me.

  • Oakville Endive | November 12, 2011 at 7:30 am |

    Is it a B+ because so many of the recent baseball uniforms unveilings have been utterly boring, that in contrast, at least there was something “new” and fresh with this uniform.

    I wonder if the “away” uni, will also have white numbers?

    • Simply Moono | November 12, 2011 at 7:39 am |

      “I wonder if the “away” uni, will also have white numbers?”

      *Good Burger cashier voice* Uh… no?

      • Oakville Endive | November 12, 2011 at 7:51 am |

        OK, I had a duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh moment, white numbers would have been more interesting.

    • DJ | November 12, 2011 at 11:07 am |

      Black numbers on the away grays.

    • concealed78 | November 12, 2011 at 12:20 pm |

      B+ is an awfully generous grade for the new Marlins look; especially for a Southern Florida team in predominately black. B+ would had been reserved for a primary orange (again, would had been bold and unique). I think there’s a fine line between being different and being bad, and the new Marlins look is more on the bad. They have four colors on top of black which they really don’t emphasis much at all. Just seems like a lot of excess secondary colors.

  • Graf Zeppelin | November 12, 2011 at 7:35 am |

    Not a big fan of the orange alt, but if anyone’s going to have an orange alt, it might as well be the Miamis. Also not a fan of the numeral font; it looks top-heavy to me.

    On the positive side, the multi-colored logo and script doesn’t look nearly as bad as we thought it would, and actually looks pretty nice from a distance. They certainly do the multi-colored thing better than the original Devil Rays.

    Generally, I concur with Phil; this is a pretty good uni set. I think it’s on par with the previous unis; not a noticeable improvement, but not a downgrade either.

  • Simply Moono | November 12, 2011 at 7:35 am |

    “C’mon down if your around…”

    Contagious, innit?

    • Phil Hecken | November 12, 2011 at 8:49 am |


      now fixed (that’s what i get for writing that line at about 2 AM)

      • Tim E. O'B | November 12, 2011 at 9:40 am |

        Well lookie lookie, seems Phil has made a mistake he enjoys correcting me on.

        I don’t care if I have to wait 10 years, I will watch you mess up pear and pare and I will com down on you with the vengeance of a man with too much free time.

        • The Jeff | November 12, 2011 at 9:46 am |


          /you fail

  • teenchy | November 12, 2011 at 7:38 am |

    I’m no expert on fonts but having the “A” in MIAMI and MARLINS squared off at the top while the “M”s aren’t seems inconsistent. Rationale?

    • The Jeff | November 12, 2011 at 8:09 am |

      If I had to guess, I’d say it’s to keep the angles more consistent. A pointed A with that thickness would need to either be taller than the M or at a wider angle.

    • Jet | November 12, 2011 at 12:04 pm |

      Jeff has a point (haha) but I tend to agree, Teenchy, if you were designing the entire alphabet of that font, it would seem logical for the A’s to be pointed at the top.


  • JT Orlando | November 12, 2011 at 7:52 am |


    I hadn’t noticed that inconsistency before you mentioned it. Great, now that’s gonna bug me every time I see the wordmark.

    I think it IS inconsistent and the “A” should come to a point at the top to match the “M.” Although, lacking graphics skillz (that’s how the kids say it these days, right?), I don’t know what it would look like with a properly pointy “A”…

  • Bluehen | November 12, 2011 at 8:02 am |

    One of the design elements Miami got wrong is the size of the cap logo – its 20 percent too large. . The bad result is a cap that looks like some mutant NFL sideline ballcap. The batting helmet logo appears to be sized correctly.

    • Louis | November 12, 2011 at 8:32 am |

      Agreed. I remember the Mariners did the same thing, when they first moved away from the trident-style “M” and put an “S” on the cap. The S was huge. Shrink it down a bit.

  • BDanner | November 12, 2011 at 8:04 am |

    Overall not bad…the home whites are really nice, but I would prefer a Marlins wordmark instead of the Miami. The logo on the hats is way too big. Also could tone down the black a bit.

  • scott | November 12, 2011 at 8:11 am |

    Is Billy the Marlin still the team’s mascot?

  • Chris Holder | November 12, 2011 at 8:21 am |

    I just don’t get the black. As an accent, MAYBE. But come on. Look at that logo, and think about how much more fun some other colors could be. Why not have an aqua top? Or a yellow top? Why can’t the cap be orange at home? It just doesn’t make any sense, unless… here we go… “they” think the black will sell more.

    I like the orange top in a vacuum, but we already have the Giants and Orioles wearing one. They should have went with aqua. That looks to be a unique shade that nobody else uses. Of course, we’re talking about the team that had teal and phased it out for black and silver. Sigh.

    That being said, I like the design. Just kill the black!

    • The Jeff | November 12, 2011 at 8:27 am |

      Yeah, they’re nowhere near as colorful as they should be with a logo like that.

    • Bill Brauner | November 12, 2011 at 9:58 am |

      I agree – Too much black, especially for a team based in sunny, tropical Miami. Why wear black hats? Be bold and make them orange.

    • a starlit carrilon | November 12, 2011 at 11:21 am |

      Better plan: have the Giants and O’s stop wearing orange tops.

      • The Jeff | November 12, 2011 at 11:43 am |

        Agreed on the Giants, their alt should be black. The O’s on the other hand, should be wearing orange pants to go with their orange jerseys.

        • Oakville Endive | November 12, 2011 at 12:40 pm |

          Ugh – The Jeff being the Jeff.

        • The Jeff | November 12, 2011 at 12:49 pm |

          I am what I am.

          (insert Popeye cartoon here)

    • Jet | November 12, 2011 at 12:07 pm |

      Agreed, Chris. I have mixed feelings about this logo. It doesn’t really look like it should be a logo of a sports team… maybe a fruit drink instead.

      However, it is…different… in a 70’s Houston Astros rainbow-guts kinda way.

      So given that, yeah, why isn’t the ENTIRE uniform just a tad more colorful?? You’re just going to lose those fine gradations of color from a distance. Especially with the black jerseys…. which shouldn’t even exist to begin with.

      Oh well


  • Luke | November 12, 2011 at 8:40 am |


    Here’s a cool EFLI Sri Lanka article!!!!

  • daveclt | November 12, 2011 at 9:11 am |

    I give the Marlins a C or C-.

    1. I don’t really like the logo. Too abstract. Too faddish. Too 70s. The worst part is the M is “modern”, and the MARLINS above it is old school. They look totally out of place together.

    2. The whole design is too period-specific (I guess it’s modern, but it looks 70s to me). It reminds me of the initial Devil Rays design. Like Tampa Bay, this look will not last the test of time.

    3. They tried to be refreshing and colorful, but all I see is a black and white uniform. Like the prior Marlin uniforms, they reduced the unique/bright colors to just trim.

    • a starlit carrilon | November 12, 2011 at 11:26 am |

      What’s the opposite of “70s faddish” to you? Plain block? Dodgers script?

    • jdreyfuss | November 12, 2011 at 1:34 pm |

      The M doesn’t look ’70s at all to me. It’s very Miami Art Deco; ’30s to ’50s.

      • Arr Scott | November 12, 2011 at 4:06 pm |

        Zactly. The M is very midcentury deco, the coloring is more early 70s mod, and the abstract apostrofish is very 1991 shopping mall food court. None is necessarily bad on its own*, but together the mishmash overpowers any sense of unity or context.

        *I lied. The apostrofish is just bad. But even if it were good, it still wouldn’t work.

        • jdreyfuss | November 12, 2011 at 9:23 pm |

          Apostrofish (apostrophish?). I like that.

    • Pepe Silvia | November 12, 2011 at 6:36 pm |

      The “MARLINS” type above the logo isn’t an actual team woodmark. That’s the template for a t shirt (or something?) design with which every team uses block lettering, I can’t remember exactly from where…

  • Tim E. O'B | November 12, 2011 at 9:28 am |

    Who’s got two thumbs and is wearing an ugly uniform? This guy.

  • Dan | November 12, 2011 at 9:34 am |

    for the carrier classic unis…do we need to add another term to glossary? USAOB- USA on back? i think ive actually seen that on other minor league unis and such, but im not sure

  • ScottyM | November 12, 2011 at 9:53 am |

    I give the Marlins credit because they’ve gone against the grain to incorporate these colors (which nicely represent the South Florida feel, btw).

    The orange is a nice.
    The whites are nice.
    The blacks look hot but seem to fit that appeal of So.Flo.
    The grays are nice … the rainbow of colors work well on all these.

    The dropshadows on the numerals are completely unnecessary.

    All in all the logo and accompanying uniforms are a successful nod to the art deco the So.Beach area is known for. Kudos for having the nutsack to represent their market without being pigeon-holed by what’s “in” in MLB today … yes, talking to you San Diego and Houston, among others. Takes balls to go against the plain, ol’, pinstriped blue, dark blue, navy blue, lite blue, royal blue, blue blue … blue that permeates the league.

    • Winter | November 12, 2011 at 3:16 pm |

      What’s more prevalent in the MLB, blue or red?

  • bradsbeard | November 12, 2011 at 9:57 am |

    Overall, the Marlins unis are not terrible. As some have said, they’re a bit of a breath of fresh air after the Padres bleh job. I think there is some group think going on in a lot of the blogs that are criticizing them. I mean, nobodies gonna click on the RSS feed if the headline is “Marlins unveil satisfactory new uniforms.” It has to be “Marlins unveil the worst clown suits ever worn on a baseball diamond!”

    That said, I have a couple critiques that I hope get ironed out in a couple years. 1) the “M” with the flying Marlin appears not once, not twice, but THREE times on all of the uniform combos except the Orange tops! Eventually they’ll roll out a secondary logo I guess, but for now it looks kind of uncreative. 2) the white lettering on the road greys doesn’t look right to me at all. 3)I still don’t think there is any need for the color yellow to make an appearance here. Cut it out and the rainbow effect is decreased dramatically. Yes, we know you play in Florida, the land of the sun. But contrary to popular belief, the sun shines in states other than Florida. In fact, there will now be much less sun at Marlins games due to the retractable roof. But I digress…

    • Tim Morgan | November 12, 2011 at 11:05 am |

      I call the multiple logos used too many times on a jersey the “Carolina Panthers” effect.

      Surely there’s a Field patch that could go in place of the logo sleeve patch, or a patch celebrating that Jeff Loria is one of the worst people in the world or something like that. Anything, really.

      Cap logo is too way large, but I think it’ll be right-sized next to Ozzie Guillen’s enlarged ego.

      My biggest problem with the wordmark is the inconsistency of the M versus the IAMI in terms of the drop shadow. I fixed it here.

      • bradsbeard | November 12, 2011 at 11:21 am |

        Nice tweak! Replace the yellow on the first M with blue and you’ve got it.

        • jdreyfuss | November 12, 2011 at 1:41 pm |

          The yellow is there for a reason and it looks good. It’s Art Deco, so the first principle is symmetry, not consistency.

  • Winter | November 12, 2011 at 10:03 am |

    I’m not horrified at the Marlins’ unis, but there was one element that I think is better in concept than in reality, and that’s the orange cap. I know that may be an unpopular position around here, but I tend to like caps that I would wear as a fan, and I don’t think I’d wear the orange. I could never wear the old Astros orange either (although I love the dark version of that hat, and hope that Crane goes back to that logo when they go to the AL).

    To be honest, I’m just looking forward to seeing the backstop aquariums.

    • Wheels | November 12, 2011 at 12:01 pm |

      The denizens of those aquariums are going to be rudely disturbed when foul balls smack into them.

      • The Jeff | November 12, 2011 at 12:38 pm |

        Those poor fish. I kinda wonder how they’re gonna stop the fans from destroying those aquariums while still properly maintaining them. Aquariums aren’t exactly low maintenance, and fish have a bad habit of dying for seemingly no reason. The last thing they need is a televised game where half those fish are dead and floating.

        Unless they’re not real, and just LCD screens with a fish tank screensaver.

    • jdreyfuss | November 12, 2011 at 1:45 pm |

      The orange hat with the blue star is the best hat in the Astros’ history. I hope that’s what they go back to.

    • Jeff P | November 13, 2011 at 12:37 am |

      I just recently bought an orange cap for the local A ball team (oddly enough, a marlins farm), the Greensboro Grasshoppers, who just won the Sally League Championship. It’s a fun color to wear. It may seem like an odd idea, but with light clothing on a summer day, it works great. White linen pants, sandals, short sleeve sport shirt in a light color, orange miami ballcap. Perfect outfit for a ballgame.

  • JT Orlando | November 12, 2011 at 10:26 am |

    I would wear the orange hat, and I’m not even a Marlins fan. (That might be because I’m an Orioles fan…so I’ve always had a soft spot for the color orange…) I guess reasonable minds may differ…

    • Jim Vilk (from his secured 5&1 bunker) | November 12, 2011 at 11:49 am |

      I’d wear an orange hat, too!

  • johnj | November 12, 2011 at 10:35 am |

    Just saw a commercial for this….



  • Russ | November 12, 2011 at 10:44 am |

    And now a full 12 hours after the unveiling, I’d say it’s about time for a full Miami Marlins rebrand because they officially have the worst logo and uniform in MLB.

    How is this logo “growing” on people? It belongs on a “Turn Ahead the Clock” uniform.

    Worst Uniform set in each league in need of a change:
    -Miami Marlins
    -Seattle Seahawks
    -Toronto Raptors
    -Columbus Blue Jackets
    -Seattle Sounders

    • The Jeff | November 12, 2011 at 11:07 am |

      The Seahawks are not the worst uniform in the NFL…and they’re going to be changing anyway. You’re better off putting Bengals, Cardinals or Browns in that spot.

      • Phil Hecken | November 12, 2011 at 11:18 am |

        “You’re better off putting Bengals, Cardinals or Browns Vikings in that spot.”



        THE…the browns? seriously? i know you hate cleveland in general and blank helmets in particular, but that uniform is one of the all-time classics, then or now

        • The Jeff | November 12, 2011 at 11:26 am |

          Just seeing if you were paying attention. ;)

          The Browns, even with their ultra lame blank helmet, aren’t *that* far down on my list.

        • johnj | November 12, 2011 at 11:43 am |

          Unique colors are always a win in my book… the leagues have enough blues and reds, but orange and brown? yes and please.

        • Andrew Seagraves | November 12, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
        • The Jeff | November 12, 2011 at 1:11 pm |

          I’m waiting for a team to use tarnished silver

          Given the general standardization of sports team colors, the Tampa Bay Bucs or Oregon Ducks are probably the closest you’ll ever get.

        • Andrew Seagraves | November 12, 2011 at 2:13 pm |

          Very true THE – very true. I guess that’s why I enjoy making up my own uniforms where I can pick the combos. It’s my world and only one person knows me there, and I’m not sure how decent our relationship is ;)

    • Wheels | November 12, 2011 at 12:09 pm |

      The Arizona Diamondbacks top the list for me. Those unis are so nasty.

      • jdreyfuss | November 12, 2011 at 1:48 pm |

        Aren’t those basically the Astros’ current unis with a logo swap?

        • Wheels | November 12, 2011 at 2:18 pm |

          Yup pretty much… theirs suck too.

      • Jeff P | November 13, 2011 at 12:44 am |

        The diamondbacks are bleh at best, but I still hate the Jays unis with a fiery passion. Apart from the retros, which are the only thing they have going for them. But I don’t really count those, since the whole point is that those aren’t part of their current identity.

        They need to wear blue, and they need to wear the stripy lettering. It’s awesome, and a distinctive style that more teams need to use.

        Of course, they’re getting new ones in a few days, and we’ll see if they’re any better. They damn well better be.

        If the Jays do the right thing, worst uniform goes to the rockies.

  • Graham Jaunts | November 12, 2011 at 10:49 am |

    I don’t LOVE the Marlins’ uniforms but I am impressed: they could have gone boring and safe on us, as seemingly every team does nowadays, but they took some chances.

    I really like the orange unis and orange hat and I really hope they wear the orange hat with the home uniforms at some point. And hopefully it becomes the default home hat. I think that would look waaaaay better than a black hat.

  • Ram27 | November 12, 2011 at 10:54 am |

    I really wish they had the aqua blue as their primary color so they don’t look like the Giants if you ignore the wordmark.
    And the hats would’ve looked better with either the M or the swfish thing, not both.

    • xavier | November 12, 2011 at 6:16 pm |

      Exactly, the Marlins are going from being the Florida White Sox to the Miami Giants.

      • Glenn Simpkins | November 13, 2011 at 1:54 am |


        In a vacuum, the Marlins New uni’s aren’t as bad a downgrade as I thought they’d be, only dropping from B- to C.

        However, as a Giants Fan, I must say…
        Who the #$@% do the Marlins think they are!? Stepping into the colorspace that we and the Orioles share? I’m a tense cross with them.

  • Chris in Nashville | November 12, 2011 at 10:58 am |

    That guy who looks familiar with Roy Williams is James Worthy

  • interlockingtc | November 12, 2011 at 11:11 am |

    I think we (those who love design and sports uniforms) are starved for something innovative and bold. We WANT a new design to blow us away. Are our perceptions clouded by that desire? I think that’s the case here with the Marlins. Some are giving this set more praise than they deserve, I think.

    After a day of digesting the introduction, I find this outfit to be a poorly executed mess. Yeah, they’ve tossed in the wild rainbow of colors, but it makes no sense and doesn’t bring together a cohesive look. And all this black everywhere—blah. They tried something different, I’ll give them that, but it doesn’t work. Excessive trim of many colors that’s difficult to see is not innovative. It’s stupid.

    I do like the font, I will say. But why not limit your palette to two colors (aqua and orange, say) and work with that. Clean up this mess and you’ll do yourself proud.

    And that number font is cartoonish. Just standard block, please.

    • Arr Scott | November 12, 2011 at 4:15 pm |

      Agreed about everything except the numbers. Like the font, like the 12 o’clock drop shadow. But yeah, what a mess. Some good thinking went into this, but I get the feeling that the team (A) lacked the courage to see i old ideas through and (B) lacked the competence to execute the watered down vision it settled on.

      All told, not only would I grade the Padres refresh higher than the Marlins rebrand, but as a fan or a team owner, I’d be much prouder to be identified with a team that looks like the Padres than the Marlins. Unimaginative but well executed beats imaginative but poorly executed for me. On the other hand, the Marlins have room for significant improvement with minimal effort. Not that teams ever do so, but at least the potential is there. These unis are sort of the Phantom Menace of uni design: Basically a failure as-is, but only a few small decisions away from something that could have been great.

  • Michael A.R. | November 12, 2011 at 11:15 am |

    The blue on the uniforms and team logo is nowhere close to aqua. It’s actually more of a “sky blue” or “powder blue”. It’s a refreshing departure from all things teal and aqua.

  • Rob H. | November 12, 2011 at 11:16 am |

    A uni-related sign by a Stanford fan behind Lee Corso on College Gameday appears to be questioning Oregon’s manhood:

    “512 Uniform Combos? Aren’t these Outfits?! What’s next, stilettos?”


    • Phil Hecken | November 12, 2011 at 11:24 am |

      perhaps the *students* need a refresher course on stanford uniform history past and future


  • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 11:23 am |

    re: Marlins’ ultra large hat logo.

    Let’s wait.

    If the Marlins wear their hats slightly rotated to one side with all the stickers still on, the brims perfectly flat and their ears tucked inside they’ll have nailed the Williamsburg look really well.

    • Paul Lukas | November 12, 2011 at 11:38 am |

      Um, no. That’s not Williamsburg, Ricko. That’s, like, Brownsville or East New York.

      • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 11:54 am |

        Oh, I know.

        Was just surprised how much of that look I saw on TV from Willamsburg this year.

        And I was kinda saying, “What MLB team doesn’t aspire for a great Little League hat styling” (even though you’d think it would be the other way around).

    • johnj | November 12, 2011 at 11:47 am |
      • BurghFan | November 12, 2011 at 2:10 pm |

        Or this.

        I think Ricko means Williamsport.

        • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 2:34 pm |

          forehead smack.
          Hard one, too.

  • Jim Vilk (from his secured 5&1 bunker) | November 12, 2011 at 11:46 am |

    It’s different, but it still looks like a baseball uniform.

    Bingo. That’s what I was thinking, too. A nice regional flair. Would I want all 30 teams to look like this? No, but it’s great for Miami.

    Probably the last thing we’ll agree on today, Phil…

    Oh, and congrats to Rex Henry. You’ve broken the 5&1 code! If I’m ever outta town, you’re the backup guy. ;)

    Although, Tulane won’t make it this week.
    As much as I love the colors and the contrast for both teams, Houston’s Mizzou-ish jersey template disqualifies this matchup.

    • Jim Vilk (from his secured 5&1 bunker) | November 12, 2011 at 11:56 am |

      One thing I also like are the unique number fonts

      Wow, that’s two things we agree on today…

      • The Jeff | November 12, 2011 at 12:15 pm |

        Since when do you like unique number fonts, Mr. I-Hate-Bellotti-Bold?

        • Jim Vilk (from his secured 5&1 bunker) | November 12, 2011 at 6:06 pm |

          I like *good* unique number fonts.

    • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 12:04 pm |

      “A nice regional flair. Would I want all 30 teams to look like this? No, but it’s great for Miami.”

      Zackly. Said last night, a bit mindful of the Floridians, in broad brush terms. Bright, symbolic Florida colors (some say cliche and predictable, but that’s sort of the point, and no more wrong that Pittsburgh teams wearing black and gold) generally set up against a background of black or white (and, yes, gray and orange, no need for the arbitrary pointing out of that by the nitpickers).

    • concealed78 | November 12, 2011 at 4:01 pm |

      You know this argument reminds me of the Padres: is the city catering to the team, or is the team catering to the city? I think it was stated that the Padres owner likes the color navy blue, and it’s a salute to the Navy base in San Diego, right? But doesn’t a team with a pretty specific mascot of “padres” generally should look a bit more like “team Padres” & its history, rather than say “team San Diego”, at least color-wise?

      • nobody | November 12, 2011 at 4:54 pm |

        Here’s an interesting thought: What if the Padres ditched the Padres nickname and went whole-hog Navy support? Change the name to the Sailors, make the unis look like naval uniforms, everything.

        Not that I think it’d be a good idea (I’d rather they go back to brown and gold/yellow), just an interesting concept.

  • hodges14 | November 12, 2011 at 12:00 pm |

    When I originally saw the Marlins logo, I was thinking to myself: Oh no, here goes the neighborhood. After I saw the uni unveiling, I honestly would like a jersey or cap. Nice job, design team.

  • M.Princip | November 12, 2011 at 12:02 pm |

    Really dig those UNC mocks by Jordan Woodson. Very cool template, and the way you applied the patterned sections. In my opinion, the more subtle the better on those areas, otherwise you might end up with a shitty zubaz look. I believe Maryland and Georgia had something like that going on a little while back?

    • Andrew Seagraves | November 12, 2011 at 1:04 pm |

      Agreed. I love the argyle! and both UNC concepts were cool – just not sure how well the Carolina blue foot on a white helmet would turn out on teh TVs.

  • Jim Vilk (from his secured 5&1 bunker) | November 12, 2011 at 12:04 pm |

    This just became my computer’s desktop background. What a great shot.

    • johnj | November 12, 2011 at 12:11 pm |

      I really don’t think there’s anything cooler than the giant ’70’ lit up on the side of the tower

      …Well maybe Obama’s bomber jacket

  • interlockingtc | November 12, 2011 at 12:36 pm |

    When you see the logo in the context of the other mlb logos…


    …it stands out. It looks pretty sharp. Distinctive.

    Too bad that distinctiveness of the logo wasn’t successfully to translated to the uniforms.

    • teenchy | November 12, 2011 at 1:33 pm |

      Reviewing all the MLB logos together leaves me a bit disturbed at how similar Nats v1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 are.

    • mtjaws | November 12, 2011 at 11:00 pm |

      I know the Blue Jays are revealing a new logo next week, but why are the Diamondbacks also missing from that list?

  • interlockingtc | November 12, 2011 at 12:37 pm |

    …i need an editor… :[

  • Christopher F. | November 12, 2011 at 12:50 pm |

    Love everything about the new Marlins unis except the black alternate. With so many colors to choose from (and I love the palatte) the black should only ever be a small accent, if anything.

    I was really, really hoping for a yellow alternate. And/or the really nice blue they’re using. Totally need to represent those colors.

    Lets hope they don’t go all White Sox and overuse the black alt.

  • pushbutton | November 12, 2011 at 12:55 pm |

    Love the white MIAMI on the grey roads, but the numbers should be white, too. C’mon Marlins, follow through and do something no one else is doing!

    What I hate is that template. Looks like a dorky first base coach. Who wears skinny drainpipe trousers tucked into hightops anymore?

    • bradsbeard | November 12, 2011 at 1:02 pm |

      Yeah, I’ve always thought that template was tacky. Always reminds me of Jim Riggleman for some reason.

      • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 1:14 pm |

        Hate that template. Have from the moment I saw it.
        For one thing (among many) doesn’t show the side of the pantlegs. Y’know, for stripe-viewing purposes.

        • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 1:16 pm |

          It’s original incarnation, that is, which was only front and back views.

    • Michael Emody | November 12, 2011 at 8:36 pm |

      When the White Sox had a white “Chicago” script on their grey road jerseys, the names and numbers on the back were blue. Precedent.

      • pushbutton | November 12, 2011 at 9:07 pm |

        Well, precedent counts for something, so I feel better. But I also think the Sox would’ve looked great with white numbers below their blue NOBs.

        • Michael Emody | November 12, 2011 at 9:20 pm |

          Yes, that would’ve rocked. But I guess, people would’ve complained that they couldn’t read the player’s numbers. The team was so bad those two years that most Chicagoans wouldn’t have cared if “Chicago” was the same color as the jersey.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | November 12, 2011 at 1:50 pm |

    I LIKE! But enough with the black! Ugh!

    The number typeface might need some getting used to but I like the home and roadies…the orange alts are sweet. But some more emphasis on the teal please!

    I like the direction of these unis. Definitely feels South Beach. The logo has also grown on me….I would just do without the Deco-Marlin on the cap.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | November 12, 2011 at 1:54 pm |

    Oh and not 100% sold on the wordmark featured on the orange jersey.

  • JGB | November 12, 2011 at 2:01 pm |

    re: the Marlins new threads, is anyone else annoyed by the overuse of the “M” with the abstract fish logo? It’s on the jersey’s front. It’s on the sleeve. It’s on the hat. I know other teams have repetition, too (e.g. the same Yankees logo on the hat and jersey). But in this case it strikes me as overload, boring to look at. And it makes me wonder if the design team was just unable to think up something else: “What should we put here?” “An M!” “What about here?” “Another M, damnit, until it’s COOL enough!”

    • concealed78 | November 12, 2011 at 3:21 pm |

      That seems to be the trend in sports uniforms – redundant repetition of putting the same logo everywhere on a uniform. The 2011 Angels were an obvious example of this. The New Orleans Saints particularly stick out in my mind, that fleur-de-lis looks great on the helmet, but they don’t need it on the shoulders which creates close double showcasing. Again, that particular jersey was probably designed with branding & fans in mind first.

      The Marlins could have come up with an alternate logo to put on the sleeve. That would certainly be more interesting than repeating the cap logo.

      • Wheels | November 12, 2011 at 3:40 pm |

        It drives me nuts with the new Bills uniforms too, with the needless helmet logo above the nameplate, and two more on the hips- just in case we forgot who the team was. Jeez

  • Jim Hayden | November 12, 2011 at 2:02 pm |

    Miami’s new unis are sweet – although to my eye their overall look does kind of resemble an Orioles minor league affiliate (which would be historically correct – Miami was an O’s affiliate in the ’60’s and ’70’s)…

  • BurghFan | November 12, 2011 at 2:07 pm |

    With the possible exception of the “1”, the Marlin numbers are very reminiscent of the orange and Blue Cavaliers.

  • Pat | November 12, 2011 at 2:07 pm |

    Orange alts have a blue drop shadow, just as I thought I saw from the screen grab.

    Someone already mentioned it but that guy next to Roy Williams is James Worthy.

    And thanks Paul for posting that video of Jon Stewart. I think a lot of people were either completely misinformed on the facts of the case, as I was while watching the riots on tv which led me to reading a few articles to catch myself up on what was really going on, or perhaps they are just that brainwashed into believing that their football team and JoePa should be bigger than a scandal this large. I think the point that Stewart made of why didn’t McQueary do something initially is the most important one. I’d like to hope that if I walked in on something like that the perpetrator would be receiving a roundhouse kick to the face and then I’d be calling the police after helping the child get their clothes back on and getting them the heck out of there. The fact that the University required threats against McQueary to put him on leave, which haven’t been elaborated on but I’m assuming were of the “why did you ruin this for JoePa and snitch on the program so I’m going to kill you” variety, is just more proof that the whole University leadership needs to be looked at as culpable. I am in a Christian ministry where we occasionally deal with a lot of these types of issues many years after the fact. The people who were victimized, however normal of a life that they’ve led after the crime, are scarred and believe lies about their own value until they can find any sense of healing from these incidents. It’s horrible, sad and downright disgusting that anybody would be siding with anyone other than the victims here.

    • Rob H. | November 12, 2011 at 4:59 pm |

      required threats against McQueary to put him on leave, which haven’t been elaborated on but I’m assuming were of the “why did you ruin this for JoePa and snitch on the program so I’m going to kill you” variety,

      I think the threats against McQueary were more of the “how come your sorry-ass, who was the one who actually witnessed the incident first-hand and didn’t intervene and stop a predator from raping a 10-year-old boy, still has a job while the legendary coach, who also failed to do enough, doesn’t” Not trying to defend JoePa’s insufficient actions, I believe the thought was that McQueary should have at least had the same punishment as him, and it wasn’t of the “his snitching led to JoePa’s getting fired” variety.

      • Pat | November 13, 2011 at 1:55 am |

        Either way the dude should have been fired as well without public pressure. The University not only screwed things up when they attempted to cover it up or sweep it under the rug nine years ago, but they’ve completely botched the aftermath as well.

  • iLO | November 12, 2011 at 2:14 pm |

    As a Marlins fan and South Floridian, I have to say that I am a bit disappointed–not surprising. My friends knew it. Fellow fans saw it coming. The moment we saw the leaked logo a while back, we thought….oh boy, this is gonna be interesting. I hoped for something we saw Paul Soto come up with a while back. In fact, I sent a e-mail to David Samson with those concepts (with credit of course) about the time it was shown here at Uni-Watch. Of course, no reply. They never do. That’s why I’m not surprised with what we have now. Now, I’m not so disappointed in the logo or word mark as much as I am pissed off about the color BLACK still being a dominant color for this team. WHY?! Why isn’t there a dominant teal uniform???

    Oh, Mr. Loria. Many of us are excited about the team with the new stadium and possible new additions, but dude, you could have dotted the exclamation point on this hype surge with a real identifying uniform. LOOK ….Just bring a teal top, with teal hat….and I’ll be as accepting as I was when I saw the original “Florida” Marlins uniform back in 1993.

    • mtjaws | November 12, 2011 at 11:03 pm |

      Amen, fellow Marlins fan. I love the recent black/silver, but would totally welcome back the dominant teal. Someday it’ll come back. I hope.

  • HHH | November 12, 2011 at 2:15 pm |

    Hey Ricko, in today’s Benchies I noticed on the tv with the pic of Jim Thorpe there is an NFL Network logo with alternating color panels on the football shape. A couple weeks ago I made a tweak of the NFL Network logo that looked almost exactly like that and I sent it to Phil. He hasn’t run it yet on Uni-Watch, so I was wondering: did he show you my tweak before you made today’s strip or did you make this alternating-color NFL Network logo on your own?

    • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 2:20 pm |

      I just picked it up by googling it. Did I maybe stumble upon your tweak?

      • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 2:31 pm |

        Just found same one again. Google Image Search “NFL Network logo vector” and it’s the first one that comes up.

        • HHH | November 12, 2011 at 5:58 pm |

          How funny, someone else also thought the logo would look better with alternating-color panels on the football shape. Strange coincidence!

  • Jake Hurley | November 12, 2011 at 2:22 pm |

    I wanted to let everyone know that that you shouldn’t miss tomorrows installment of the Duck Tracker. It will be extremely historical (well in the modern era of the “wings” at least). I am compiling a chart of every combo the ducks have ever worn in the modern era, and breaking down the numbers for everyone. It will hopefully set many misinformed people straight.

  • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 2:27 pm |

    Anyone checked out Tulsa today?
    I’m getting Marshall/Tulsa on Fox Sports North.

    “T” on front of helmets and the rather uncommon look of a royal center stripe on the tri-color-striped scarlet jerseys.

    Also, from a colors-only standpoint (not details) Purdue today gives us kinda the feel of the Raiders had they not changed to silver and black in ’63. Yeah, I know, so did Army until a couple years ago, but they had some white striping on the jerseys. Purdue’s strictly black and gold.

    • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 2:41 pm |

      ” royal center stripe on the tri-color-striped scarlet jerseys.”

      Without some white between the red and the blue, that is.

      I haven’t forgotten the Steve Grogan-era Patriots.

    • LarryB | November 12, 2011 at 8:40 pm |

      I turned that on and did not get a good look at the T helmet.I saw it though.

      So why did they do that.

  • Saints Fan | November 12, 2011 at 2:49 pm |

    the MLB shop is selling official on-field miami marlins orange caps. This is a good sign, Paul…..


  • Winter | November 12, 2011 at 3:10 pm |

    Any information on when the Jays’ new uniforms are going to be unveiled?

    • jdreyfuss | November 12, 2011 at 3:25 pm |

      Didn’t they already announce it? I think it was either the 17th or the 19th.

  • Anthony | November 12, 2011 at 3:45 pm |

    Boise in white helmets, orange jersey and orange pants. TCU in purple helmets and all white. Why is BSU all about the mono combos? Pair an orange jersey with white pants

    • Rob H. | November 12, 2011 at 5:01 pm |

      They should have had volunteers paint the field all-orange last night. The rules just said they couldn’t wear mono-blue on the blue turf. Didn’t say nothing about wearing mono-Orange on an orange turf. They could’ve gotten away with that at least once.

  • Leo | November 12, 2011 at 3:58 pm |

    Auburn changed their pant stripes I see

    • Simply Moono | November 12, 2011 at 4:19 pm |

      Been like that all season.

      • Leo | November 12, 2011 at 4:28 pm |

        My mistake lol

  • Tim E. O'B | November 12, 2011 at 4:49 pm |

    Good looking game I just came from – http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/photos?gameId=313160077&photoId=1679390#photo_1679381

    Too bad NU doesn’t wear the white pants at home, and too bad people here – who will remain nameless – are anti-purple bigots.

    …The nameless person is Paul.

    • jdreyfuss | November 12, 2011 at 6:41 pm |

      The game looked really good to me right up to the point that Rice got blown off the field.

      But yeah, maybe we’ll finally make the 5&1 instead of constantly getting an honorable mention.

      • Jim Vilk (from his secured 5&1 bunker) | November 12, 2011 at 8:58 pm |

        Black pants on a purple and white team…BUZZ.
        Ah, sorry. Thanks for playing.
        Loved all the purple, though.

        • Tim E. O'B | November 12, 2011 at 9:29 pm |

          We’re a purple black and white team. Have been since early 90s. the entire university has adopted the color black. BFBS now a school color.

        • jdreyfuss | November 12, 2011 at 9:32 pm |

          C’mon Jimbo, you know you love the Gothic ‘R’ too much to leave us off the list all year.

        • Jim Vilk (from his secured 5&1 bunker) | November 12, 2011 at 11:30 pm |

          Someday, j…

  • Will S | November 12, 2011 at 5:40 pm |

    I never realized how much I liked Boise’s all-blues until I saw their all-oranges. I agree with the no blue on blue turf rule, but can we get a fund going to give Boise a green field so they don’t have to wear these things?

    • Simply Moono | November 12, 2011 at 5:55 pm |

      Boise State should keep the blue turf. That’s them. Everyone else is a copycat that’s ruining the fun for the Broncos. However, Boise State should wear their version of the uniform worn by their NFL counterparts a long time ago:


      • NickV | November 12, 2011 at 10:20 pm |

        Back in the 1980s I believe they did. My recollection was Orange jerseys over White pants, Blue helmet – all colors were pretty basic, therefore close to the same era’s Broncos ….

      • Jeff P | November 13, 2011 at 12:51 am |

        It’s them, but it sucks.

        I wouldn’t mind it so much if it weren’t so saturated. If it were green, it would be neon. Way too jarring a color for my eyes.

    • Jim Vilk (from his secured 5&1 bunker) | November 12, 2011 at 6:21 pm |

      Blue turf + orange unis = awesome.

      Too bad TCU couldn’t have worn last year’s unis.

      • Jim Vilk (from his secured 5&1 bunker) | November 12, 2011 at 6:25 pm |
        • jdreyfuss | November 12, 2011 at 6:42 pm |

          The tramp stamp or the leg writing?

        • Jim Vilk (from his secured 5&1 bunker) | November 12, 2011 at 8:59 pm |

          Tramp stamp. I dont’ have a problem with names on pant legs.

        • Phil Hecken | November 12, 2011 at 9:07 pm |

          “Tramp stamp. I dont’ have a problem with names on pant legs.”


          as usual, you got that semi-backwards

          the tramp stamp sucks, but the TNOL is worse

        • Tim E. O'B | November 12, 2011 at 9:17 pm |

          TNOL is fine, I don’t see the problem with that, not for every team, but an ok modern uni design feature.

          Trampstamp is way worse.

      • M.Princip | November 12, 2011 at 6:46 pm |

        I really like what TCU is wearing today. This team rocks the purple.

  • Derek | November 12, 2011 at 6:06 pm |

    it looks like michigan have switched back to the “rich rod” road uniforms since they dont have the M on the back of the jersey like the new ones this year had. anyone else confrim?

    • Simply Moono | November 12, 2011 at 6:23 pm |

      Yes. The story is that the TechFit jerseys were too easy to grab on to, so they switched back to last year’s model for both home and road. I wish Michigan would just switch back to Nike already… they looked so much better back then.

      • Rob S | November 12, 2011 at 7:14 pm |

        I wholeheartedly agree with you, Moono.

  • Tim E. O'B | November 12, 2011 at 6:31 pm |

    My Hoosiers are losing 37-6 to their bye week. Can’t buy a win.

  • jdreyfuss | November 12, 2011 at 6:44 pm |

    Can the Mountain West please let the schools render the MW logo in school colors, like MLB does? The purple on orange thing really isn’t working.

  • nobody | November 12, 2011 at 6:52 pm |

    something everybody missed: Arizona State basketball’s new shorts have the pitchfork only on the right leg. You can barely see it on the white set, but the maroon and black each show each side


  • S. | November 12, 2011 at 7:42 pm |

    This Notre Dame game is one of the best-looking games I’ve even seen.

  • mmwatkin | November 12, 2011 at 7:43 pm |

    Lucky Charms vs. the Test Pattern.

  • Johnny O | November 12, 2011 at 7:44 pm |

    I really like Miami’s logo. However, that is where it ends for me. These new uniforms are brutal in my opinion. I hate the multi-colors, and the incorporated black. No team in Florida should include black in their uniforms. I understand the bright colors, but I don’t like it. It’s too busy.

    The thing that gets me is that there are many people sitting in a room going over designs and at some point the majority agreed on this design to be their new identity. The thing that upsets me even more is that those same people make a lot more money than I do.

    Sorry for the rant, but I really disagree ging Miami a pass on these uniforms. I give them a solid D+ on this set. Too busy, too many colors, too many alternates. Had a very solid logo, and ruined it with the multi-colors.

    On the other end of the spectrum… Notre Dame looks great tonight, but Maryland are wearing their “flag esecration threads.

    • Johnny O | November 12, 2011 at 7:45 pm |

      “Flag Desecration” threads*

  • Johnny O | November 12, 2011 at 7:46 pm |

    Notre Dame going with their word mark in the end zone along with their golden domes. I like the “slashes” better myself.

    • nobody | November 12, 2011 at 7:53 pm |

      I think they had to go with the wordmark or the redskins design would show through too much

      • Tim E. O'B | November 12, 2011 at 8:11 pm |

        why bother with doing the endzones? the midfield logo is still the redskins’ logo.

        • DJ | November 12, 2011 at 10:11 pm |

          When ND played at San Antonio and Yankee Stadium, the fields were decorated just like Notre Dame Stadium (white diagonal hashes in the end zone, and that’s all). Tonight, they’re in an NFL stadium that has a lot of field decoration. My guess is that they re-decorated just enough so they could make it look Notre Dame-like, but not enough to make it hard to switch back to Redskins logos.

          I think if the circular part of the Redskins’ logo was actually centered on the 50 (as opposed to the entire logo–feathers and all) they might have whited it out and pained an ND monogram. Kind of like how Heinz Field does it for Pitt.

          Man, I dred what the Park District will make Soldier Field look like next year when ND plays Miami.

  • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 8:05 pm |


    The Notre Dame Fighting Golden Golf Balls.

    • Phil Hecken | November 12, 2011 at 8:19 pm |

      the helmet looks pretty cool in person…even though i could not really care less about helmets

      surprisingly, powers was unable to swipe it

    • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 8:27 pm |

      Seriously, I have a gold golf ball right here and, from even the slightest distance, those frickin’ helmets look just like it.

      Well, the golf ball isn’t really gold, of course. I’m sure we’ve all seen such a thing. Probably on the Participation Trophy we got from a golf tournament somewhere along the way.

  • inkracer | November 12, 2011 at 8:06 pm |

    Watching the ND/MD game, and I still can’t stand the Maryland “pride” unis. As for the Irish, I don’t mind the Shamrocks, but seeing as we have seen them already this year (against Michigan) and they “Threw back” for that game, I’d rather see a home version of that design rather than just their normal green unis. I’m also not a fan of the tan (guess it’s supposed to be gold) compression sleeves. The Leprechaun logo really doesn’t work there. It’s also hard to tell if the facemasks are black or a REALLY dark green.

  • Tim E. O'B | November 12, 2011 at 8:07 pm |

    What’s with the nude ND sleeves, adidas?

    And stop putting slogans/logos in people’s armpits.

    • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 8:19 pm |

      Yeah, because green sleeves would look really stupid.


      Like we can’t tell the idea is to get us to focus on the jerseys and therefore, their manufacturer?

      Seriously, enough with using games as marketing platforms or 3-hour ads.

      Although, given the state of college football, schools whoring themselves out and telling us it’s nothing more than good ol’ “fun” for fans and players shouldn’t surprise us, should it.

      • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 8:24 pm |

        At least NASCAR sponsors don’t claim the logos make the car faster.

        • jdreyfuss | November 12, 2011 at 9:27 pm |

          I just flashed back to the Simpsons and speed holes.

        • Wheels | November 12, 2011 at 10:04 pm |

          You want my advice… I think you should buy this car

  • Rob S | November 12, 2011 at 8:23 pm |

    Flipping between Oregon-Stanford and Notre Dame-Maryland, it’s just amazing to me how much better the Nike unis look compared to UA’s and Adidas’ super-stretchies. Football players just look so much better when they’re not trying to look like crappy 90s superheroes.

    And the Trippy Domers vs. the Flag-Crazy helmets just looks like a total mess.

  • Phil Hecken | November 12, 2011 at 8:24 pm |

    personal line(s) of the day:

    me: “i don’t really want to try on the ND helmet.”

    pl: “why not, everyone else has already tried it on.”

    together: “exactly”

    • Rob S | November 12, 2011 at 8:26 pm |

      Definitely would help to have a skullcap in that case…

    • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 8:32 pm |

      Hey, Phil, with your haircut, if your scalp picks up any cooties you can just spear ’em with an x-acto or something, so what’s the worry?


  • Phil Hecken | November 12, 2011 at 8:30 pm |

    is this another new helmet for the ducks? it’s got a jaguars color/shift thing going on…yes?

    • Tim E. O'B | November 12, 2011 at 8:37 pm |

      Great minds, right?

    • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 8:39 pm |

      I won’t pretend to keeping up with Oregon (or even trying) but, yeah, don’t their normal green helmets have a yellow zero?

    • Eric | November 13, 2011 at 1:30 am |

      Their green helmets have been like that since they went to that helmet in 1999. They use a multi-layer paint process that reproduces the effect you see on actual mallard ducks’ heads.

  • Tim E. O'B | November 12, 2011 at 8:37 pm |

    Oregon wearing Jacksonville Jaguars’ helmets.

  • Michael Emody | November 12, 2011 at 8:39 pm |

    I flipped on the Maryland/Notre Dame game to check the bling, and I see Maryland’s got the flag jerseys on again. Which I really like, except for one irritating point:

    Is it dyslexia? ADD? Ass burger?

    I know it’s been brought up before, but, again, WTF can’t the helmets be the reverse of the shoulder pattern? I think they’re a great design, ruined by one weenie-headed decision. But old news; they can’t fix it just for today’s game.

    Now… isn’t Notre Dame supposed to wear the green for “special” games? Like for moral boosting purposes? Maybe whip them out in the second half, to win one for the gipper. So why today? They’re nice, except for: LAZY-ASS NUMBER PLACEMENT! I’m pretty sure NNOB was included in the work order. So why do the number’s hang around their ass like the pants of some dumb ass gangbanger? Oh, I get it: you want us to believe you might wear the jerseys next year, and maybe that’ll be a NOB year. Sure, they’ll be packed away to be used over and over again, being such an investment for the university…

    You know Addidas reads this blog. They must have read about how low number placement, with NNOB, looks like shit. So… I don’t get it.

    I guess I’m not enamored by shiny objects. I never cared much for stage hypnotists, either.

    • Phil Hecken | November 12, 2011 at 8:53 pm |

      this game is inducing seizures…

      why is the ND guy wearing green & brown socks? or does the player have corderoy-textured legs?

      • Tim E. O'B | November 12, 2011 at 8:56 pm |

        Corderoy textured legs, I don’t have a short socks version of the legs and almost every ND player is wearing mid calf socks.

        • Tim E. O'B | November 12, 2011 at 9:11 pm |

          Should be fixed, just refresh the link to the image

    • Kyle B | November 12, 2011 at 8:55 pm |

      Am I the only person on earth that is actually enjoying this? Not the shitty football, but the uniforms?

      • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 9:01 pm |

        Not the football, but the uniforms.

        That’s kinda the marketing position they’re selling these days, isn’t it?

        • Kyle B | November 12, 2011 at 9:12 pm |

          Well i mean if maryland and notre dame were actually good then that would be nice. Instead i just look at it the game and go “oh, cool uniforms” and then change the channel haha.

      • Michael Emody | November 12, 2011 at 9:26 pm |

        Yeah, I’m just in a foul mood. I kinda like ND in green, and think the MD jersey would be cool if… wait- I must have Asperger. That must be it.

      • LarryB | November 12, 2011 at 9:32 pm |

        I think Notre Dame looks better in these than their regular plain blue boring uniforms.

        • Rob S | November 12, 2011 at 9:37 pm |

          I still think the super-stretchies make them look not as good as they could be.

        • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 9:37 pm |

          Oh, I’m liking the green.

          It’s those Maxfli helmets that have a sort of “Let’s try THIS and see if it works” look to them.

          SpaceGolfBalls vs. Gem City Roller Girls.

          Damn, now THAT’s football.

        • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 9:46 pm |

          The way it’s going, we could come to this conclusion…

          A team wearing helmets that look like the complexion of a meth addict will beat a team wearing helmets that look like the brain of a meth addict.

  • JAson | November 12, 2011 at 9:04 pm |

    Braxton Miller wearing his dark gray Pro Combat undershirt & black Nike elite socks http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/photos?gameId=313162509&photoId=1680117

    Jordan Hall had one Pro Combat sleeve, Pro Combat shoes & gray Pro Combat socks

  • jdreyfuss | November 12, 2011 at 9:20 pm |

    The refs in the Stanford-Oregon game just made a Bellotti Bold mistake. They called a penalty on number 96, even though the offending player was number 46.

    • Tim E. O'B | November 12, 2011 at 9:25 pm |
    • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 9:32 pm |

      Wait. Numbers are supposed to be legible?

      Who knew.

      • Ricko | November 12, 2011 at 9:33 pm |

        Without, y’know, having to study them for a couple seconds and determine the number by process of elimination.

        • jdreyfuss | November 12, 2011 at 10:08 pm |

          I actually like Bellotti as a font. It just doesn’t work for sports uniforms because it’s functionally useless in that capacity.

        • Phil Hecken | November 12, 2011 at 10:14 pm |

          it’s not unreadable

          vilk just can’t stand anything that’s not varsity block

          now…if you put silver numbers on a white jersey…NO font is going to be readable…even da raiders recognized this and added black outlines to theirs

      • Jim Vilk (from his secured 5&1 bunker) | November 12, 2011 at 10:57 pm |

        Don’t put words in my mouth. Oregon State has a good font. New Mexico has a great font. jdreyfuss has made my point.

        • Jim Vilk (from his secured 5&1 bunker) | November 12, 2011 at 10:58 pm |

          That’s meant for Phil…obviously.

  • LarryB | November 12, 2011 at 9:54 pm |

    Anybody know how many Pro Combat games are left?

    • Phil Hecken | November 12, 2011 at 10:00 pm |


      stanford (vs. ND)

      and army vs navy (both in ap)

      • LarryB | November 12, 2011 at 10:17 pm |

        Thanks, I was think Standford was one. I forgot about the Army Navy game. Those Navy unis looked good when they released the pictures.

        • LarryB | November 12, 2011 at 10:32 pm |

          My brother said New Mexico had white helmets and red tapered stripe. Maybe same logo. Not sure about the unis. He gets Mountain West network.

      • Tim E. O'B | November 12, 2011 at 10:30 pm |

        I think i heard something about that second game being played on a boat…?

        • jdreyfuss | November 12, 2011 at 10:34 pm |

          Ooh, is T-Pain gonna be there?

        • Phil Hecken | November 12, 2011 at 10:39 pm |
  • NickV | November 12, 2011 at 10:26 pm |

    I was really hoping for Stanford to run the table and play a (hpoefully) undefeated LSU in the BCS championship game.

    Instead, my guess is that we MAY get an undefeated LSU, and about EIGHT 11-1 and 12-1 teams below them … with an unbearable six weeks of bitching and carping as to who truly deserves to play for the Crystal Vase or whatever it is. And if Arkansas beats LSU ( possible) then we’ll have 8 or 9 teams at 11-1 to cry about BCS/NCAA conspiracies and the like.

    When that crap starts – and it will – I’ll thank God for the Fox Soccer Channel and tune in again in January when the BCS game finally kicks off ….

    • jdreyfuss | November 12, 2011 at 10:39 pm |

      Okie State is still undefeated and looked pretty stout today. If they make it past Oklahoma in a couple weeks, there’s no reason they shouldn’t stay at number 2.

    • Phil Hecken | November 12, 2011 at 10:41 pm |

      i never thought i’d say this until they screwed me twice in the CorC pool…

      “im glad boise community college lost”

    • LarryB | November 12, 2011 at 11:04 pm |

      I was hoping Stanford won it all. Be nice to see a different team win championship.

      But that is not going to happen now.

      So now I root for Oklahoma State I guess.

  • Simply Moono | November 12, 2011 at 10:31 pm |

    So here’s four of my guesses for the 5&1 in no particular order:

    -Nebraska/Penn State
    -Texas A&M/Kansas State

    And the bad one being:

    -Boise State/TCU

    • Phil Hecken | November 12, 2011 at 10:34 pm |

      any normal person would include stanford/oregon, but we know that won’t sniff the 5…not even an honourable mention

    • jdreyfuss | November 12, 2011 at 10:40 pm |

      Are you sure Boise/TCU won’t be the color palette special? I know he doesn’t like the tramp stamp, but he does still love colorful matchups.

      • Simply Moono | November 12, 2011 at 10:43 pm |

        He hates Boise State’s file tab unis from last year (they wore the orange file tab tops today), and doesn’t like TCU’s unis, mainly because of the number font.

    • Simply Moono | November 12, 2011 at 11:03 pm |

      Add one to the 5:


      Even with the Cougars’ font, this is a good matchup.

  • Phil Hecken | November 12, 2011 at 10:47 pm |

    hey movi…

    not only do they not get the &1…

    but the cougs are going gray-red-gray against sparky in gold-white-gold

    might actually deserve “5” consideration…

  • Tim E. O'B | November 12, 2011 at 10:59 pm |

    Phil Knight sighting!

  • mtjaws | November 12, 2011 at 11:28 pm |

    I’ve been a Florida Marlins fan from the very start. I thought the teal was unique and Floridy, but loved the black and silver era of recent years. I’ve dreaded these new changes, and these reveals confirm my feelings.

    Sure orange, blue, and yellow are similar to the Art Deco colors of South Beach, and that could be how the rest of the country sees Miami, but I sure don’t. (I don’t live in Miami, but am a native Floridian.) I also don’t associate the team with South Beach, so why should they have the same colors? Stupid.

    There are some good elements to some of these uniforms, but overall, I give them an F. And not just because that was the old hat logo. Art “dealer” Jeffrey Loria doesn’t know a thing about baseball, and knows even less about designing uniforms. I can’t wait until he sells the team and someone better takes over.

    I’ll still root for my team to win, but they’ll always be the black & teal-clad Florida Marlins to me. Go Fish.

  • Kyle Allebach | November 13, 2011 at 12:12 am |

    I think the Orange alt has some blue/aqua drop shadow. Lame.

  • Kyle M | November 13, 2011 at 12:30 am |

    tcu qb is #4 and he had a block “4” shaved into the side of his head. saw it during an interview after the game.

    • Tim E. O'B | November 13, 2011 at 2:12 am |

      and TCU like on the helmet on the other.

  • nobody | November 13, 2011 at 2:12 am |
  • Keepin' It Teal | November 14, 2011 at 12:26 am |

    Note how out of all these comments, the 3 previous Marlins fans generally hate the look. Add a 4th.

    I’ve seen commentary from all over the country on the new Marlins identity. It’s easy to praise them for “doing something different”, being “unique”, breaking from the “bleh” safe designs of recent rebrands… if you’re not a Marlins fan. Imagine it was your team that threw all of it’s history out the window and unveiled some of the gaudiest kits in history?

    This set represents everything about Miami that gives this sports market a bad name. The flashy colors of South Beach celebrate the kind of crowd that shows up in the 2nd quarter of Heat games and leaves early, the crowd that is more interested in the “Orange Carpet” at Dolphins games then the football, and totally ignores the Panthers and previously, the Marlins. The Marlins have embraced the tacky, fairweather side of South Florida and alienated their most dedicated fans.

    Besides that it’s simply bad design. The inconsistencies in the set make no sense. First off the “primary” logo changes colors depending on the background. The marlin, which they ripped off from the short lived Dolphin Stadium logo, flips colors when displayed on orange. I’m a graphic designer and that’s the first thing you try to avoid. You want a logo that works on all applications. The drop shadow on the “Miami” wordmarks does not match up, the bottom of the “M” is a different color from “IAMI”. On the road and two alts the number font is not the same color(s) as the wordmark. And white letters on the front of the road grey, hard to read. The list goes on. How anyone can praise this set is beyond me.

    Perhaps worst of all is that this all came about because of one man, Jeffrey Loria, and his horrible taste. He never liked teal, claimed it was an “80s color”, and that “you have to be cognizant of your time”. Yet he cooks up something that Sonny Crockett would be embarrassed to wear. Never took into account the opinion of season ticket holders/fans, i.e. his somehow still loyal customers after years of embarrassing team operations on his part.

    Again, imagine it was your team. Not a campy, wacky look you want to add to your cap collection. Not a XXXL jersey that matches the crazy ass shoes for a hip hop video. Your beloved childhood team. Imagine it was the Yankees or Cubs. We had one of the classiest, most unique sets in baseball before Loria got here. Then he took the teal out, and now throws this crap at us. The new stadium is bathed in a multi-colored wash of his egotism as well, with the insane home run “celebration” and swaths of bright red/green/yellow/blue bus stop bathroom style tiles. Whoever the next owner is, I’m sure Loria will eventually sell and make some hefty profits, will have some serious remodeling to do at the ballpark.

    Just because the Marlins never drew big crowds at the worst stadium in baseball in the rain and heat does not mean there aren’t fans down here that truly love(d) this team. Real Marlins fans are heartbroken. It’s like they did move away to Portland or San Antonio, because there is nothing recognizable about this team.