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A Leo’s World Mighty Wishbone C Quiz (and Debate!)

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Greetings and a good Saturday morning. I hope everyone had a good week, and you’re not too wiped out from this past week’s uni-bonanza.

You guys will recall reader/pal Leo Strawn, Jr. recently took a deep dive into the similarities between the caps worn by the Hiroshima Carp and Cleveland, which took him down a bit of a rabbit hole in his research. Turns out that rabbit hole was a bit deeper than even he expected, as Leo has now combined two of his passions — the “Wishbone C” and quizzes — and has another very fun piece in store for all of us for today. If you’re like most of us, you’d probably know that the Chicago Cubs, Cincy Reds and Cleveland Guardians have all used (or still use) the Wishbone C as a logo — but that’s an incomplete list, as we’ll soon see.

I’ll just turn it over now, as Leo brings you …

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The Mighty Wishbone C Quiz (& Debate)
by Leo Strawn, Jr.

I’m Leo…welcome to my world!

It’s that time of year again, so buy me some peanuts and Cracker Jack!

This started as a broader cap and uniform quiz, but one question just got more and more complicated the deeper I researched, so I decided to turn that one question into a quiz of its own…which will surely open the floor up for debate.

This edition will focus on that wonder that is the wishbone C!! Just give it your best and have fun with it, okay?


First, a bit of personal history.

You might ask, “Leo, why the hell do you seem so obsessed with the wishbone C?”

My answer is “It’s my heritage, I guess.”

The first ballgame my dad ever took me to was to see our local Minor League team that wore these beauties. Now, I can barely remember even being there, but I must have wanted my dad to buy me one of those blue caps with the white wishbone C. If you read UW regularly, you know that, as it turned out, I got my first cap sometime later, and it was a red Tribe cap with the blue wishbone C in white outline that my grandpa bought for me. My dad was a Reds fan, and I was, of course, a lover of the Big Red Machine in my youth, as well. So, I developed a personal attachment to one of the most iconic sports logos of all time, very early in life.

Now, on to the question that began my venture into this wishbone shaped rabbit hole…

What Major League clubs have worn a wishbone C?

That’s it, that single question has become the entire quiz.

How many can you think of and who are they?

My answers are below and let me add that I have included the Negro Leagues as Major Leagues in this quiz, as MLB has (relatively) recently done. That being said, there is one Negro League team that may or may not have worn a wishbone C while in the NAL, but definitely did wear one, though possibly as an independent team prior to joining that league. However, it appears they may have used a wishbone C in their logo in their only season as a Negro American League club, so, while I can’t say for certain whether or not they wore a jersey featuring a wishbone C as a Major League team, I decided, nevertheless, to include them as one of my answers.

I realized my personal list of (11!) answers was going to be up for debate as I was trying to come up with all of the “correct” answers and that it was going to depend upon the strictness of one’s definition of “wishbone C”. The only definition I could find online is on Wikipedia, which defines it as “a standard letter ‘C’ that is pinched off in the middle to make it look like a sideways wishbone.” The link to that source of that definition is a 404, unfortunately.

Let me pick your brain before you start: We all know what a classically defined wishbone C looks like, but in 2023, the Reds came out with a modernized version for their City Connect uniforms that is obviously based upon Cincinnati’s everyday cap logo. Perhaps the Reds wanted to sidestep this debate because the club’s website doesn’t actually call it a “wishbone C”, describing it this way, “The classic “C” logo receives a modernized look and appears on the cap and sleeve.” Nevertheless, the Reds’ classic C logo is a wishbone C, even if it has been subsequently “modernized”.

So, do you consider the Reds City Connect version or any of the other versions in my answers that do not strictly resemble the Reds classic C logo as a wishbone C?

Additionally, does the C have to be elongated or can it be rounded? Does the addition of other elements on the logo disqualify it?

How many clubs did you come up with for this edition, who are they, and, more importantly, how broad or narrow do you think the definition should be?

Now, get a cup of java and cogitate for a bit.

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My answers…

Answer 1: MLB’s first use on cap (debatable): 1901? (photo of cap that used to be sold as 1901 cap in MLB Shop can be seen here); MLB’s first “classically defined” wishbone C: 1905

Answer 2: MLB’s first use on jersey (debatable): 1903 (team photo)

Answer 3: Club’s first use on jersey (debatable): 1907 (team photo); club’s first use of “classically defined” wishbone C: 1916 (photo)

Answer 4: Club’s use on jersey (debatable): 1914 (photo)

Answer 5: Club’s use on jersey: 1914 (photo)

Answer 6: Club’s use on jersey: 1921 team photo

Answer 7: Club’s first use: 1933 (photo)

Answer 8: Club’s use on jersey and logo: 1934? or 1937? replica jersey found here (link says “1937” which would make these NAL jerseys, but webpage says “1934” which would make them an independent squad while wearing them), photo of jersey and purported 1937 logo as a member of NAL from an article Paul wrote on the history of the wishbone C

Answer 9: Club’s first use on cap: 1961 (photo)

Answer 10: club’s first use on cap (debatable): 1965 (photo)

Answer 11: Club’s use on jersey: 2014 (photo)

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Did I miss any? Did I include too many? The great wishbone C debate is on!

Until next time…


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Thanks, Leo! Great stuff (and history) and put in the form of a fun quiz to boot.



Uniform Concepts and Tweaks

Time for more Uni Tweaks from the UW readership.

I hope you guys like this feature and will want to continue to submit your concepts and tweaks to me. If you do, Shoot me an E-mail (Phil (dot) Hecken (at) gmail (dot) com).

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Today’s concepts come from Jeffrey Kruger.

Good day!

After reading the list of five trademark applications made for this franchise, I chose VENOM for my concept.

I have always loved the look of 1969’s Salt Lake Golden Eagles, so that became the genesis for this effort.

The vertical stripes on the stockings are kind of retro/funky, with a slightly European feel. Very different.

The narrow shoulder and sleeve stripes remind me of a Jean Claude Killy-style ski jacket . . . think Grenoble ’68. LOL

Finally, the dark (home) uniform offered a bit of a Cooperall effect, with stripe continuing down from the hips to the ankles.

And on the inside of the leg as well! I discovered lots of press photos where they had players kneeling, to reveal the unusual stripes there.

My creation is attached, along with different combinations of icon and wordmarks on the bottom. A fun exercise.

With kind regards,

Las Vegas, NV

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OK readers (and concepters). If you have some tweaks or concepts, shoot ’em my way with a brief description of your creation and I’ll run ’em here.



Guess the Game from the Uniform

Based on the suggestion of long-time reader/contributor Jimmy Corcoran, we’ve introduced a new “game” on Uni Watch, which is similar to the popular “Guess the Game from the Scoreboard” (GTGFTS), only this one asked readers to identify the game based on the uniforms worn by teams.

Like GTGFTS, readers will be asked to guess the date, location and final score of the game from the clues provided in the photo. Sometimes the game should be somewhat easy to ascertain, while in other instances, it might be quite difficult. There will usually be a visual clue (something odd or unique to one or both of the uniforms) that will make a positive identification of one and only one game possible. Other times, there may be something significant about the game in question, like the last time a particular uniform was ever worn (one of Jimmy’s original suggestions). It’s up to YOU to figure out the game and date.

Today’s GTGFTU comes from Derek Smalls.

Good luck and please post your guess/answer in the comments below.



And finally...

…that’s gonna do it for the early article. Big thanks (as always) to Leo for this really fun (and informative) deep dive into the Wishbone C.

I should have at least two additional articles today (plus the Ticker), so be sure to keep checking back for more.

You guys have a great Saturday and I’ll catch you back here on the morrow.



Comments (3)

    It’s always surprised me how commonly the wishbone C is used given its distinctive character. However, I would hasten to add the Tuscan font is a different beast (the lettering on the California Angels’ hat) and is distinguished by a burr on both sides and tulip-shaped serifs.

    GTGFTU: 09/22/1963 Kansas City Chiefs (27) vs. Buffalo Bills (27); War Memorial Stadium, Buffalo NY.

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