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A Coach Who Removed Native Imagery from His Team’s Uniforms

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In yesterday’s ’Skins Watch report, I mentioned the new inflatable tunnel that the football team at South Grand Prairie High School in Texas had recently unveiled (see above). I learned about that tunnel last weekend from longtime reader Chris Mycoskie, who pointed me toward a photo of it on Twitter. It seemed so over the top that I simply quote-tweeted it with the words “Holy shite” and no further comment.

Amidst the somewhat predictable responses — some lamenting that the school would take this route, others mocking me for being “woke” — was a tweet from someone named Art Senato. It read, “I’m the head baseball coach at this school. I can only speak for my program. I eliminated the spear and tomahawk from our baseball uniforms in an attempt to get ahead of what I know is coming. We have to be better.”

I wanted to learn more, so I asked Senato if he’d consent to an interview. After some scheduling hiccups, we spoke by Zoom yesterday evening. Here’s a transcript of our conversation (edited and condensed for clarity and length).

Uni Watch: First, please tell me a little bit about South Grand Prairie High School. How many students are there? What sort of community is the school part of? Give me a sense of the context in which you work.

Art Senato [shown at right]: Sure. Our enrollment is right around 3,400 in a normal school year, which this isn’t. We’re a very diverse school, majority Hispanic. We’re definitely a majority-minority school. Blue collar in regards to socioeconomic status.

The school was built in 1969. And the city of Grand Prairie has changed a bunch since then. But a lot of our kids, their parents went to school here, their grandparents went to school here. So it’s a pretty tight community. I grew up in Arlington, not very far away, but my dad worked in Grand Prairie.

UW: And for people who don’t know where Grand Prairie is — and I didn’t know myself, frankly, until I looked it up — would it be fair to say you’re a part of the Dallas suburbs?

AS: Oh, yes. Yes, we’re definitely a suburb of Dallas.

UW: How long have you been coaching baseball there?

AS: This is my sixth year coaching here, and my 29th in education.

UW: You teach as well as coach.

AS: Yes, I’ve taught American government up until this year. This year I’m working with kids who have failed classes in the past and I’m trying to help them recover the credit.

UW: Have the school’s teams always been called the Warriors?

AS: Yes, they’ve always been the warriors. School colors are red and gold. As far back as I can remember, we’ve always had the Native American imagery. Probably in the last couple of years you tend to see a little bit less of it than in the past. Some years we have a live mascot, some years we don’t. It just depends on whether kids try out for it. But the community — especially, you know, the older alumni — they’re very proud of the Warrior mascot. They’re very very proud of the Native American imagery.

UW: Before you made the recent change to your uniforms, what did they look like?

AS: One jersey says “South” and one says “Warriors.” For our hat, we’ve had the “S” with a tomahawk on it, very similar to the Atlanta Braves. We haven’t really had any any Native imagery on the jerseys. Our practice shirts had a spear.

UW: So when did you decide to change that, and why?

AS: This summer we talked about it — my assistant coach, who graduated from here, and I. We’d talked about it in the past. There was talk about maybe getting the “S” with the tomahawk on our left chest of the jersey — like, it’s already on the cap and now I’m going to put on the jersey. I didn’t feel good about that. Then this summer, with the whole Redskins thing, as soon as Daniel Snyder finally decided to drop “Redskins,” I picked up my phone and sent a text to my assistant coach and said, “Hey, we probably need to drop this.” Take the spear off of our practice T-shirts and take the tomahawk off the hat and just go with “SGP” on it.

Because you know there’s been little rumbles here and there about it. Martin High School in Arlington, they’re also the Warriors, and they dropped the Native American headdress from their logo. It was part of their logo, and they dropped it and their alumni went absolutely nuts about it. So between them dropping theirs and then the Redskins, I felt we needed to get out ahead of this. I just said, “I think that’s the right thing to do.” And I’d rather get ahead and be ahead of the curve.

UW: Prior to the Redskins changing their team name, did you have some misgiving about this imagery on the cap and on the practice shirt? Like, was this something you had been thinking about, and maybe had an inclination to do something about even before the Redskins made their change?

AS: You know, when I got hired here six years ago, one of the things I was really kind of surprised about was that the Native American imagery was still used so much — not just here, but in other schools. And this is the first time that I’ve been in a school that’s used Native American imagery. So I was kind of surprised that there’s still a lot of that going on, to be honest with you. But when you get in here, and you see it all over the place, I mean, that’s just who we are, the Warriors.

UW: It normalizes it, right?

AS: Right, exactly. I’m not saying it’s right. But you become normalized to it. And then it takes something like the Redskins to just make you sit back and say, “Wait a minute, we’re not really doing the right thing. We need to do the right thing.” So as a coach I said, “Look, all we can control is what we do in baseball.” So we’re not going to have it, we’re going to get rid of it. We can control our hats. We can control our website. If we’ve got some wind screen that decorates the bleachers that we’ve got, either take it down or get something to put over it. Because we need to get out in front of this and take care of what we can control. We can definitely be a leader and take control.

UW: There are lots of different stakeholders in a situation like this. Let’s start with the players themselves — the students who wear the uniforms. How did they respond to your move? And did you talk to them about it?

AS: They asked why. And that’s good — I want them to ask why, I want them to ask questions. I explained to them that if it offends people, even if it’s a small minority of people, we need to be sensitive to that. You know, we just need to be better, meaning better in everything that we do, and that includes our new hats. And they’re still gonna look good, you know, it’s still gonna be the school colors. And if anything, like I explained to my assistant coach, the cap with the “S” and the tomahawk, people didn’t always know that that stands for South Grand Prairie. But if we put the “SGP” on there, that identifies us. “Oh, yeah, that’s South Grand Prairie.” I want our brand to be identifiable — identifiable in a good way.

UW: What about the school administration?

AS: I shared it with our principal and he was like, “Yeah, that’s probably a good idea. And you’re right, you’re making the right decision to get out in front of this.” You know, I’m not a decision maker in the school building when it comes that kind of stuff. But I think I kind of get the feeling that at some point, in the near future, that more people are gonna get involved in that discussion. The easiest thing to do would be just to, you know, rebrand the logo and just have one logo and just “SGP” and that’s it. But that’s not my decision. All I can do is take care of my sport.

UW: What about parents and other members of the community? How have they responded?

AS: Some of them responded positively and some, you know, they don’t understand. “I think we should keep the Native American imagery” or “It’s part of the school’s history and tradition.” I mean, I agree it’s tradition. But sometimes not all traditions are good. I mean, hazing in fraternities, that’s a tradition. But that doesn’t mean it’s a good tradition. I mean, the world’s changed and things that were acceptable to the majority of people 20, 30, 40 years ago, they’re not acceptable today. Things have changed in the way people think. And the last thing I want, for any organization I’m a part of, is to be linked with something that would make people have a negative perception of us because of, you know, a logo, or what we’re wearing. I mean, that’s something we can control, right? So I’m gonna lead from the front and be the example.

UW: Fans of teams that use Native American imagery, like the Braves or the Kansas City Chiefs, sometimes do things like the tomahawk chop, or wearing headdresses, or doing Indian war whoops, and things of that nature. Have South Grand Prairie fans done things like that over the years? And if so, have they continued to do it even after you changed the uniform?

AS: I think that’s been something that’s happened in the past. I don’t see it very often now. I mean, the tomahawk chop, you won’t see that at any of our baseball games. Football, you may see it every once in a while, but I don’t think it’s near as prevalent as what it was. I know when we played them when I was in high school, it was there. I mean, it was very prevalent, but that’s, 32, 33 years ago.

UW: What about the coaches for the other sports at the school? Have any of them said anything to you, either positively or negatively? Have any of them said they want to follow your lead?

AS: No, no one’s said anything to me.

UW: It seems like the football team might be doubling down on the Native American imagery, at least based on that new inflatable tunnel they were recently showing off.

AS: When we saw the picture of the tunnel — actually, my wife saw it first. And I didn’t know what she was watching, because the football game was a live feed from out of town last week. And I just heard her say, “Whoa — they got a new run-through tunnel, you might want to take a look at it.” And then I saw it. I also saw a tweet from one of our school board members and I know it’s been brought to the school board’s attention.

And once again, it’s not my sport, so I don’t know all the details about about that. But it was just kind of an “Oh boy” moment. When I saw your tweet, I wasn’t surprised. I was like, “Man, this is not the look we want for our school, in our community.” Just my opinion.

UW: When you responded to my tweet, you said you removed the Native imagery from the baseball uniforms. And then you said — and you’ve also said it in the course of this conversation — you said, “We have to be better.” What do you mean by that?

AS: We want people to respect how we think. You always want someone to respect how you think, respect your feelings, right? Well, we need to reciprocate that. We need to give that back. And just because one group of people says it’s okay to use it, that doesn’t mean that other groups of people are gonna think it’s okay. And we just, we have to be better. We need to be aware of the world we’re living in. Things you could get away with more 30 years ago — it wasn’t recorded, it wasn’t reported. But now [holds up cell phone], everyone’s a reporter.

So we need to have tough conversations. And it’s okay to hear the other side. And if you disagree, that’s fine, but we need to have level-headed conversations. Both sides need to listen to each other. And we need to have some kind of common ground about what’s what’s going to be the best thing for the school, for the community. And you know, what I’ve explained to some alumni who have talked to me about it is “Hey, we can still be the Warriors. If we need to have some kind of a logo or mascot, we can have like a Spartan-looking dude as our mascot.” Instead of using the Native American imagery. And as a government teacher, I mean, that’s something that I used to always drive home to my students about how Native Americans were treated by by our government. And, you know, I love my country. But there are some things we’ve done in the past that make you shake your head. And we need to acknowledge those things, and we just need to be more sensitive. Yeah. And that doesn’t make you soft. I mean, I think it just makes you a good person.

UW: I think that’s everything from my end. Is there anything I haven’t asked you about that you want me to know?

AS: I responded to your tweet because I wanted the world to know that there are people here who do get it and who are making an effort and are trying. Because something we all do, and I know I’m guilty of it at times myself, is painting with a broad stroke. I mean, I have pride in being a South Grand Prairie Warrior, and when we’re attacked, if I feel like we’re being attacked, I want to come to our defense as much as I can. And as much as I can, some things are indefensible, but as much as I can, to not let there be a perception of our school and our community that’s, like, “What are they thinking there?” So once again, I’m trying to lead from the front and and be an example for the for the kids who I coach.

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Faaaascinating. Interestingly, the photo of Senato on the baseball team’s website shows him wearing the old tomahawk cap. He said he’s working to get that photo changed, along with other staff photos on the site. Update: He’s now removed the photo.

I want to thank Senato for his time and for sharing his story, and also for being a coach and teacher during this uniquely challenging year.

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The Ticker
By Anthony Emerson

Baseball News: The Prospect League, which is a summer collegiate wooden bat league, has unveiled the identity of their newest team, the Johnstown Mill Rats (Erik Spoonmore).
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College/High School Football News: Georgia State certainly has some unique helmets, with a traditional-style logo on one side and a wordmark/uni number mashup on the other (from Mike Chamernik). … Virginia Tech DL Amaré Barno has earned Frank Beamer’s No. 25 jersey this weekend, as Tech goes white-maroon-white against BC (from Andrew Cosentino). … Speaking of BC, they have a new equipment trailer (from Bill Abley). … Red-red-grey for Troy this weekend (from Ben Whitehead). … UNC is going blue-white-blue tomorrow against Florida State (from James Gilbert). … Virginia is going mono-white against Wake Forest (thanks, Jamie). … Georgia Southern is wearing white at home tomorrow because their opponent, UMass, hasn’t yet received their full road uniform set (from Shane Bua).

Hockey News: A newspaper deliverer in Orcas Island, Wash., wore a different hockey jersey every day to cheer up people along his route (from Dustin Jensen). … New Canucks signings G Braden Holtby and D Nate Schmidt will wear No. 49 and No. 88, respectively (from Wade Heidt). … Avalanche alternate captain Nathan MacKinnon has hinted that the Avs’ new alternate uni will feature the colors of the Québec Nordiques. Of course, the Nordiques relocated from Quebec City to Denver in 1995 (from Moe Khan).

Soccer News: The Scottish Challenge Cup has a new name — the SPFL Trust Trophy — and logo (thanks, Jamie). … New third kit for Argentine side San Lorenzo, which is Pope Francis’s favorite club (from Ed Żelaski). … Also from Ed: Mexican side Pumas UNAM, which is closely associated with the National Autonomous University of Mexico, is honoring former university president Guillermo Soberón Acevedo with a memorial patch, something rarely seen in soccer.

Grab Bag: Dublin GAA has unveiled their new kits (from Phillip Santos). … New logo for restaurant chain Chester’s Chicken (from John Cerone). … Here’s a question for you: Would you buy supermarket-branded shoes? If you’re European and a fan of the Lidl chain, the answer is apparently yes. And I can’t really blame them — they’re dynamite! (From James Gilbert.) … Here’s a great article about Penn’s bowling teams, dating to the 19th century (from Kary Klismet). … Also from Kary: new athletics logo for Rhodes College (also from Joe Cody). … One more from Kary: Syracuse’s Carrier Dome’s new roof has developed a leak.

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That’s it for this week. Enjoy Phil’s weekend content, stay well, and I’ll see you back here on Monday. — Paul

48 comments to A Coach Who Removed Native Imagery from His Uniforms

  • Defo Maitland | October 16, 2020 at 8:46 am | Reply

    Correction to the hockey section – Nathan MacKinnon is an alternate captain. Gabriel Landeskog wears the “C”

  • BurghFan | October 16, 2020 at 8:48 am | Reply

    A tip of the (black and gold Uni Watch) cap to Coach Senato for a very reasonable discussion of what he did.

  • Victor DiGiovanni | October 16, 2020 at 9:05 am | Reply

    I 1000% agree that we need to move completely away from Native American imagery. It’s just branding. We’ve shown as a society that we can adjust overnight to anew brand if needed. We’ll be fine. New traditions will be made.

    One unintended consequence I’m wondering about is how much this erases Native American culture from the average citizen’s view? Outside of sports mascots and the occasional western, I don’t see Native Americans portrayed ANYwhere.

      • victor.digiovanni | October 16, 2020 at 7:41 pm | Reply

        lol. I meant currently. Or ongoing. Yes, of course, there are umpteen fictional stories that have been produced over the decades. But 98% of those are of the stereotype that we’re striving to eliminate nowadays. And today’s kneejerk social media criticism to anything depicting non-white cultures is going to make a lot of filmmakers shy away from tackling those themes. Unless that filmmaker is a Native American, but that’s a super-tiny subset of directors who have enough clout to make anything but the smallest of indie films. I suppose we could make a new big-budget Tonto movie starring Johnny Depp’s version of the character. People liked that, didn’t they?

        • Paul Lukas | October 16, 2020 at 8:01 pm |

          Sigh. There are plenty of movies, books, TV shows, etc. featuring characters who are, you know, NORMAL FUCKING PEOPLE who just happen to be Native Americans. No headdresses, no totem poles — just NORMAL FUCKING PEOPLE.

          As I already explained in another comment thread:

          There are no teams wearing depictions of Asians on their uniforms. Is that a problem?

          There are no teams wearing depictions of Hispanics on their uniforms. Is that a problem?

          I could go on, but I think you get the idea.

          But somehow you think removing depictions of Native Americans from uniforms is a problem.

          The notion that the proper way to elevate and respect a culture’s status is to slap a cartoon version of it on the side of a football helmet, and that the culture will somehow be bereft if that treatment isn’t given, is beneath the dignity of this discussion. Let’s please move on. Thanks.

  • Forde | October 16, 2020 at 9:47 am | Reply

    Art Senato has a very impressive managerial resume. Kudos to him.

  • ThatRodneyGuy | October 16, 2020 at 10:06 am | Reply

    Update to the lede: Coach Senato’s photo appears to have been removed from the linked SGP webpage. I assume it is the one inline above in the text.

    Great story. Well reasoned and stated, Coach!

    • Paul Lukas | October 16, 2020 at 10:15 am | Reply

      The one inline is not him. It’s one of his assistants.

  • Daniel E | October 16, 2020 at 10:23 am | Reply

    I have no doubt Senato’s heart is in the right place, so this isn’t meant as a criticism of his intentions. But at risk of sounding like a cynical broken record, again I ask…

    Why are no actual Native Americans being consulted in these decisions? Again, it seems that white people are assuming that they’re saving non-white people from offense, but how do we really know if we don’t actually talk to them?

    I’m also kind of confused about why Spartan imagery is OK but Native American imagery isn’t. Is it just because Spartans don’t exist anymore? But surely their descendants do, just like the descendants of ancient Native American nations.

    • ThePonchat | October 16, 2020 at 11:50 am | Reply

      I often wonder the same thing, why is Spartans okay but Native Americans are not? What usage of “Warrior” is okay at all? No spear or tomahawk. But, just a sword?

      Before anyone wants to bring it up, I know the history with Native Americans.

    • BDanner | October 16, 2020 at 12:05 pm | Reply

      Native Americans have, by and large, made their feelings known on the issue as a whole.

    • marchingkazoo | October 16, 2020 at 1:10 pm | Reply

      In re: I’m also kind of confused about why Spartan imagery is OK but Native American imagery isn’t.

      I propose that it’s a mite complicated. There was one, and only one, Sparta. That city-state negotiated the Peace of Antalcidas treaty and voluntarily subjugated themselves to the Persians as a matter of policy. That said, commemorating the glory days of Spartans before said treaty could be acceptable. There have been at least dozens, perhaps hundreds of Native American tribes in what is now the continental United States. Scattershot treaties leave the political state of those tribes in a shambles. We know that some of those tribes were oppressed, sometimes fatally. I’m saying that lumping the notion of all Native Americans into a single team mascot ignores that distinction.

  • Jim Howicz | October 16, 2020 at 10:25 am | Reply

    “It’s part of the school’s history and tradition.” I mean, I agree it’s tradition. But sometimes not all traditions are good. I mean, hazing in fraternities, that’s a tradition. But that doesn’t mean it’s a good tradition.

    I think Coach Gets It(TM).

  • Leah | October 16, 2020 at 10:45 am | Reply

    Great interview today. I admire the leadership displayed by Coach Senato.

    My cousin did a similar thing with his baseball team at a former “Redskins” high school about six or seven years before the mascot was changed. One of his big motivations was keeping the cost of gear down for both himself and his families. By the time the mascot was changed, the baseball gear was all good looking and up to date still, as it just had the name of the school on it. One of the big upsides in all of this, whether planned or unplanned, was that when the backlash came for changing the name, baseball was left completely out of it. If a student wanted to wear a Redskins hoodie or something “in protest,” the only baseball gear available was several years old.

  • Kek | October 16, 2020 at 11:07 am | Reply

    As a native Johnstowner and uni watcher from way back, I am embarrassed someone else beat me to the punch on the Mill Rats ticker item!

    Do I save face by mentioning the Hickory Street Bridge will be renamed in honor Carlton Haselrig?

    • Kek | October 16, 2020 at 11:26 am | Reply

      More on the Mill Rats, if you still do the “Working Class Wannabees” stuff… from this article: https://www.tribdem.com/sports/johnstown-chooses-mill-rats-as-baseball-team-name/article_054d29ac-0f36-11eb-9f55-63182ddd848d.html

      “Back then, the term mill rat had a more derogatory tone, but the current mascot is a nod to both a blue-collar past and the determination of the working class people who made the mills run, according to Davidson. It’s also supposed to be fun.”

      • Kek | October 16, 2020 at 11:35 am | Reply

        Another takeaway from that article was them mentioning the “name the team” “contest”. I use quotes because I guarantee not one person actually said “Mill Rats” in their form. If this was anything like the team that launched in 1995 that I was a part-time employee of, they just got themselves a 350 person list to call and solicit season ticket packages to.

        • ThatRodneyGuy | October 16, 2020 at 12:03 pm |

          A rare Kek sighting!

          Wow! It’s like Christmas!

    • Erik S | October 16, 2020 at 1:39 pm | Reply

      I follow the Prospect League on Twitter since my current city and hometown are both in the league. I just happened to be on twitter when the news came out .. Erik

      • Kek | October 16, 2020 at 2:00 pm | Reply

        Good on ya Erik! I look forward to following the league!

        Rodney, you’re too funny!

    • Patrick in MI | October 16, 2020 at 5:31 pm | Reply

      They should have been named the Johnstown Frackers.

  • MJ | October 16, 2020 at 11:28 am | Reply

    Great interview today. Props to the coach.

  • gashouseILM | October 16, 2020 at 11:38 am | Reply

    What about a Brannock Device UniWatch pin?

  • Ron Ruelle | October 16, 2020 at 11:48 am | Reply

    For once, a coach uses “blue collar” to actually mean something accurate.

  • Rick | October 16, 2020 at 11:52 am | Reply

    As an old mailman I was interested how Jerry wore a different hockey jersey each day…must be a rural route carrier. Reading it, I see he is a newspaper deliverer. Still cool.

  • Ben | October 16, 2020 at 12:16 pm | Reply

    It’s so jarring in this age of college uniform design to see the Georgisa State unis–virtually generic branding from a UA school?

    I guess ‘wordmarks as logos’ is a key element…

  • JessMan | October 16, 2020 at 12:31 pm | Reply

    And I thought 70 was a strange goalie number, but at least in ends in a 0. Wonder what the significance of 49 is to Holtby.

    Also love the story and screamin eagle Caps jersey in the delivery man article

  • Ethan | October 16, 2020 at 12:40 pm | Reply

    I agree with Daniel E up above, and I want to further elaborate on his point. As I was reading the interview, I was thinking to myself “if a team named the Warriors isn’t okay just because of the native imagery, how are team names like Spartans, Vikings, or even Patriots deemed alright?” Because the thing is, they’re all the same sort of mascot. They’re all caricatures of those that killed other groups in the past. I ask in a rhetorical way, because I know why. The Vikings and Patriots were white, and the Spartans, while darker, were not in American history for people to get offended about. I just wish us Americans were a little more aware of the blatant inequity regarding these issues.

    • Paul Lukas | October 16, 2020 at 12:44 pm | Reply

      Actually, Ethan, they’re not the same at all. Patriots and Vikings are examples of a culture *celebrating itself,* not misappropriating someone else’s culture.

      I agree that Spartans is a poor substitute.

    • Vic DiGital | October 16, 2020 at 7:59 pm | Reply

      Even more than appropriation, what sets Native American imagery apart from Vikings, Spartans, etc, is that none of those ethnicities were persecuted or slaughtered or driven from their American homes by conquering nations. And on top of that, Vikings and Spartans aren’t words that have been used to marginalize or demean Nordic or Greek Americans. There’s just no history of subjugation at all, much less that compares to what Native Americans went through. If a Native American team comes out with a name for themselves, GREAT. But if it’s a white-owned team that chooses to go all-in on Native American imagery in 2020? They get every bit of heat that comes their way.

  • Memal | October 16, 2020 at 12:51 pm | Reply

    What a great interview. Thank you Coach Senato for sharing your well thought out and well delivered message of change!

  • Andrew Schmidt | October 16, 2020 at 1:00 pm | Reply

    With removing native American iconography, I have a question. What happens in twenty years when there’s literally no representation of native Americans in our culture? The idea that names like chiefs or braves is insulting confuses me. Like, we named a baseball team after the best perceived value of people that are native to this country. Or naming a team after their name for a leader of society. I don’t even buy that all forms of native based logos are bad. I mean the warrior on the front of that inflatable looked pretty menacing and badass to me. For a culture with many ugly associations that aren’t entirely untrue (from someone who works in tribal lands daily) I believe that most of the representations are flattering. The sports representations tend to paint a picture of an exaggeratedly glorious past. For a culture (or group of cultures before someone calls me out on that) with so many ugly realities, the teams and logos give a far better picture than reality does.

    • Paul Lukas | October 16, 2020 at 1:05 pm | Reply

      Actually, Andrew, you’re working off of a faulty premise here, because there’s zero indication that there will be “literally no representation of native Americans in our culture” in 20 years (or at any other time). There are Native American characters in movies, TV shows, and books, there are museums featuring Native American history and heritage, there are countless Native-based websites, and so on, and there’s no indication that any of that will be going away. I’m not sure why you think putting a cartoon Native American character on the side of a football helmet or on a giant inflatable tunnel is somehow a better “representation” than the examples I just cited, or why a representation that’s “menacing and badass” is automatically a positive thing, but I strongly disagree on both of those points.

      • Andrew Schmidt | October 16, 2020 at 1:43 pm | Reply

        I think that my point about representation stands because the sports teams on local and national levels are far and away the most common representation of native iconography in America and it isn’t even close. I don’t think it would be a stretch to say that they make up north of 90% of what a typical American sees of native iconography. Outside of the exceptionally academic, well read, or historical film nut most Americans see almost no representation outside of sports teams and casinos. I mean I live in a city named for a tribe and work the tribal lands and that’s most of what I see.

        • Paul Lukas | October 16, 2020 at 1:47 pm |

          With all due respect, Andrew, this is an absurd argument.

          There are no teams wearing depictions of Asians on their uniforms. Is that a problem?

          There are no teams wearing depictions of Hispanics on their uniforms. Is that a problem?

          I could go on, but I think you get the idea.

          But somehow you think removing depictions of Native Americans from uniforms is a problem.

          The notion that the proper way to elevate and respect a culture’s status is to slap a cartoon version of it on the side of a football helmet (or on a “menacing and badass” inflatable tunnel), and that the culture will be somehow bereft if that treatment isn’t given, is beneath the dignity of this discussion. Let’s please move on. Thanks.

  • Max W. | October 16, 2020 at 1:06 pm | Reply

    Ticker correction: per the article, the Penn bowling team dates back to the late 1800’s (19th Century)

  • Peter | October 16, 2020 at 3:13 pm | Reply

    What is the gross financial cutoff for using the term “blue-collar”

    • Paul Lukas | October 16, 2020 at 3:14 pm | Reply

      As someone else has already noted in another comment, this interview was a rare instance of a coach using the term “blue collar” appropriately (and literally, not metaphorically).

  • Andrew H | October 16, 2020 at 3:30 pm | Reply

    Wow. Unexpectedly seeing Coach Senato on this site reminds me of one my favorite uni-related Halloween costumes and memories. You see, Art was my 8th grade football coach. As we gathered to start practice one Oct 31st, onto the field came Coach Senato dressed, fully-padded, in a homemade Nebraska uniform. He’d applied red electrical tape to our plain white helmets to create the stripe and N. I have no idea where the red jersey came from. When asked what he was dressed as, his response was “I’m undefeated” (this was a long time ago). He couldn’t resist himself and did take a snap or two at RB. Obviously there were more than a few Derrick Henry-like stiff arms. It’s a shame we couldn’t convince him to conceal his identity for actual games because we definitely would have been able beat St Monica in the playoffs that year.

    Best to you, Coach Senato. Not surprised to see you’re still setting such a great example to those that look up to you.

    • Chris | October 17, 2020 at 10:14 am | Reply

      I love this comment. Coach Senato seems like a really great guy.

  • walter | October 16, 2020 at 9:06 pm | Reply

    I have a recommendation for anybody who thinks it’s a good idea to name teams after Indians: It’s a good idea when the team itself is made up of Native Americans, aboriginal Americans, and inhabitants of reservations. Shoot, such teams could probably use support because chances are they are somewhat challenged in terms of resources. Do some research of Indian charities and make it a point to support, spiritually and financially, athletic (and philanthropic and cultural) programs which help the reservations of our diverse and varied country. I say, if you like Indians, put your money where your mouth is; help some real Indians.

  • Brian | October 17, 2020 at 12:51 am | Reply

    I used to love this site, but it’s so constantly woke now that it has become unreadable. You’d think people would learn from the mistakes of the NBA, but I suppose not. I won’t be back to the site again, but let me be clear about why I’m leaving. I agree that blatantly offensive Native American imagery should not be used, but I’m just sick of reading about it virtually every time that I come to the site. I get it, it’s not good… stop telling me over and over.

    • Chris | October 17, 2020 at 10:19 am | Reply

      Lol. What mistakes of the NBA were everyone supposed to learn from?
      Brian, if we know anything about Paul, it’s that he’s going to continue to address the issue until it is no longer an issue. And we also know that he likely feels you are welcome to scroll past any content that doesn’t appeal to you, or to stop visiting if you choose. Free country and all, working both ways.

    • Scottie | October 17, 2020 at 10:31 am | Reply

      So you think use of the imagery is not good but you don’t want to read about it because it upsets you? Such a burden for you. What a hard life you must live.

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