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History Mystery: A New Version of the Old English ‘D’

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The photo above shows Tigers designated hitter Luis Polonia legging out a triple on April 11, 2000. It was the first base hit in Comerica Park. Notice anything amiss?

It’s a very subtle nuance, but the “D” logo on Polonia’s jersey is a little bit off. Here’s a side-by-side comparison — Polonia’s logo on the left, the standard logo from a game-used Tigers jersey on the right (click to enlarge):

Weird, right? They’re similar but definitely not the same. Sharp-eyed reader and longtime Tigers fan Jeffrey Sak noticed the difference while watching a replay of that 2000 game last night. He says six of the Tigers’ 10 starters that day (catcher Brad Ausmus, second baseman Gregg Jefferies, shortstop Deivi Cruz, third baseman Dean Palmer, right fielder Karim Garcia, and Polonia) were wearing the incorrect logo, along with two of the three relief pitchers who later appeared in the game (Danny Patterson and Doug Brocail).

But he says four of the starters (first baseman Tony Clark, left fielder Bobby Higginson, center fielder Juan Encarnación, and pitcher Brian Moehler) wore the standard logo, as did reliever Todd Jones.

Here’s a comparison of Palmer wearing the incorrect logo and Moehler wearing the correct logo — Palmer on the left, Moehler on the right:

Although you can’t see it because of the cropping, Palmer and Moehler both had the Russell Athletic maker’s mark on their left sleeve, so this wasn’t a “slightly different logos due to a different manufacturers” situation.

We all know the Tigers’ jersey and cap logos didn’t match for many years. But now it turns out that some of the jersey logos didn’t even match each other!

“I can’t say for sure that this was the only game that this discrepancy existed,” says Jeffrey. “But as a diehard Tiger fan since 1981 who noticed the jersey/hat logo discrepancy in 1982 as a nine-year-old [this was noted as how Jeffrey first Got It™ in yesterday’s blog post — PL], I’ve never noticed anything like it, so I think it’s a very rare quirk.”

Anyone know more? If so, do tell.

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The color(s) of money: The map above shows the color of a $20 or £20 note in various countries around the world. It’s from a faaaaascinating article about currency design that includes info on currency Pantone colors, which categories of people, animals, and buildings, are featured most often on currency, and more. Really great stuff — check it out here.

(Big thanks to my longtime pal Rob Walker for this one.)

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This will be a one-day raffle. To enter, send an email to the raffle address by 8pm Eastern tonight. One entry per person. I’ll announce the winner tomorrow.

Big thanks to Matthew for sponsoring this one!

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The Ticker
By Paul

Working Class Wannabes™: The coach of the D-3 football program at the Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology describes one of his former players as “blue-collar tough and nasty.” Footnote: Rose-Hulman’s teams are called the Fightin’ Engineers — a white-collar occupation. … South Carolina defensive coordinator Travaris Robinson says he wants his team to have “a blue collar mentality.” … An article about Purdue’s new defensive coordinator says (paywalled), “Nothing glorious or glamorous about playing the nose tackle spot. It’s dirty, blue-collar work for tough men who need to tie up blockers.” … An article about high school football in Virginia begins, “When you think of Galax [High School] football, you think of a rugged, hard-working, blue-collar style of play.” … An article about Virginia football DL Jowon Briggs says he brings a “blue-collar mentality” to the defensive line. … A highly recruited high school football player from Yelma, Wash., says Boise State is one of the schools he’s considering because “they really sold me the emphasis on family, offensive line tradition and blue collar work ethic.” … An article about the WVU football team’s upcoming season quotes an anonymous coach who says, “They [WVU] want to be blue-collar; they want to be disciplined.” … MLB prospect Zach McCambley, who pitches for Coastal Carolina, says, “I think coming to Coastal, you’ve got to be a blue-collar type of guy. You’ve got to be a hard worker.” … An article about another MLB propect, Arizona C Austin Wells, describes him as having a “blue-collar approach to his craft.” … A high school baseball coach in Florida says, “[W]e’re looking to get Crystal River baseball where it used to be; good, hard-nosed, blue-collar work ethic.” … An article about Boston Bruins D Kevan Miller describes him as having a “a blue collar career.” … An article about the NHL’s Columbus Blue Jackets describes them as “the blue-collar Blue Jackets.” … New Mexico basketball coach Paul Weir, engaging in a bit of working class lingo bingo, says one of his new recruits will bring “a blue-collar, hard hat energy and work ethic” to the team. … An article about the Duke baseball program describes the team as a “group of Blue Collar players who had to scratch and claw for so much.” … An article about new Sul Ross State basketball commit Matthew Simpson says he has a “blue collar mentality” that will fit in with the school’s “strong work ethic.” … An article about Big East soccer teams describes Butler as a “blue-collar unit.” … Boston Red Sox director of amateur scouting Paul Toboni says the team’s top draft pick in last night’s MLB draft, 2B Nick Yorke, is a “blue-collar baseball rat.” … In another article about Yorke, he describes himself as a “blue-collar player.” … In yet another article about Yorke, he describes himself as “more of a blue-collar, put your head down and go to work kind of guy.” … Meanwhile, an article about the Diamondbacks’ top pick, who played college ball at Duke, says he “embodied the blue-collar spirit of the squad.” … The new coach of the Hastings College women’s soccer team says, “I want to come in and sort of have that blue collar type attitude that has got that program to where it is in the first place.”

Baseball News: MLB lettered up some jerseys for the top picks in last night’s MLB draft, but the jerseys didn’t have numbers — just NOBs. Looks weird, no? (From Phil Spain.) … This is pretty awesome: the cast of Happy Days in softball uniforms, complete with Northwestern-striped stirrups. And at Wrigley Field, too! (Big thanks to K. Richardson.)

NFL News: The Panthers have moved their statue of former owner Jerry Richardson to protect it from potential damage amidst civil unrest. Richardson sold the team in 2018 after allegations of racial and sexual misconduct. The terms of the sale included a clause stipulating that the new owners could not remove the statue. … Here’s the stupidest thing you’ll read today: Two youth football organizations in Park Ridge, Ill., are squabbling over which one of them has the rights to poach the Atlanta Falcons’ old logo (from Eric Bangeman).

College and High School Football News: Oregon’s “O” logo almost didn’t make it onto the Ducks’ helmets because Nike honcho Phil Knight didn’t want it there (from @ianb78). … Administrators from Bear River and Box Elder High Schools are holding a logo design contest for the 100th annual Golden Spike football game this Septeumber. The game is the longest uninterrupted football series in Utah (from Timmy Donahue). … New helmet for Cumberland Valley High School in Pennsylvania (from Kary Klismet).

Hockey News: Sacrilege, or just sacré bleu? Canadiens owner Geoff Molson says the team may add an alternate uniform next season (from Moe Khan). … The ECHL’s Maine Mariners are auctioning off jerseys with proceeds going to pandemic relief. … New 10th-anniversary logo and slogan for the North Iowa Bulls, a junior team in the NA3HL (from Timmy Donahue). … New 50th-season logo for the WHL’s Prince Albert Raiders (from Wade Heidt). … Speaking of Wade, he was walking past the Canucks’ arena and noticed a banner showing G Jacob Markstrom wearing a mask and jersey that he’s never actually worn together. “That’s his old mask that he wore with the previous jersey, which had the ‘Vancouver’ lettering above the Orca logo. Never been worn with the newer jersey.”

Soccer News: U.S. Soccer has voted to rescind its rule that had required players to stand during the national anthem (from our own Jamie Rathjen). … Also from Jamie: Players on at least two EPL teams — Arsenal and Tottenham — want to kneel in protest before kickoff when the league resumes play. The matter will be discussed at an EPL shareholders’ meeting today. … EPL players also want to replace their NOBs with “Black Lives Matter” for the opening round of matches next week. … One more from Jamie: MLS’s return tournament has its own logo. … Eintracht Frankfurt wore a Black Lives Matter shirt yesterday (from Football Kit Watch). … The NWSL’s Utah Royals FC will release a new home kit on June 17 (Jamie again). … Looks like Barcelona F Lionel Messi may have been wearing teammate Luis Suárez’s warmup top. … New away kit for Belfast side Linfield. “The colors match the flag of the Ulster Volunteer Force, a Protestant paramilitary group in Northern Ireland,” notes Ed Zelaski. “Linfield is known as a Protestant club, and supporters have gotten in trouble for sectarian chanting, so that hardly seems accidental.” …

Grab Bag: In the “I never thought I’d live to see the day” department: Two days after driver Bubba Wallace called for the Confederate battle flag to be banned at NASCAR events, NASCAR has done just that. Amazing. … In a related item, the U.S. Army appears to be following the lead of the Marine Corps and the Navy by preparing to ban the Confederate battle flag. That article says the Army would then take up the issue of renaming the 10 bases currently named for Confederate generals, but President Trump then ruled that out yesterday, saying that the bases are part of a “history of Winning.” Whatever one thinks about the issue of the base names, citing “Winning” is a puzzling rationale for justifying the names, since Confederate generals were losers, in the most literal sense of the term, on the battlefield (from Timmy Donahue). … In a further related item, about 100 students, teachers, and parents in Hanover County, Va., protested outside a school board meeting earlier this week, demanding new names for two schools that are named after prominent figures from the Confederacy (from Tom Turner). … Here’s an article, with lots of photos, about how rappers used to wear sports jerseys. … A U.S. Marine veteran protested for racial justice outside the Utah state capitol in full uniform. More info here. … The city of Poughkeepsie, N.Y., has a new logo for its reopening. … Looks like Syracuse’s Carrier Dome no longer has a formal name (from Jeff Sharon). … Here’s one branding expert’s take on how the pandemic will affect logos and branding. … A school district in Texas has spent nearly $100K on legal and related fees fighting a group of parents who created a rainbow/pride-themed version of the district’s logo. … Lots of different U.S. Postal Service uniform components shown in this photo essay featuring employees at one Queens post office. … Rugby league team the Toronto Wolfpack has announced a plan to have staff and eventually fans wear contract tracing bracelets to help inhibit the spread of the coronavirus. … Comic book writer and Punisher co-creator Gerry Conway, who has previously criticized police officers who’ve used the Punisher logo, is now looking to repurpose the logo for the Black Lives Matter movement. … Although the 2020 Olympics were postponed until next year, Olympic-themed sneakers are still hitting the market now (from Asa Domolky). … New primary athletics logo for D2 school Assumption University. … One sportswriter thinks it’s time for the sports world to stop having police appreciation promotions (WaPo link). … Speaking of the police, George Floyd’s uncle wants his town of Gettysburg, S.D., to remove the Confederate flag from its police department logo. The town was founded in 1883 by Union and Confederate Civil War veterans and named for the Battle of Gettysburg, although the police logo with the Confederate flag wasn’t adopted until 2009 (from Timmy Donahue). … Good article about how Felix the Cat became the mascot of an Indiana high school. … Aussie rules football resumed last night, with an extra guernsey ad above the number (from @maclovenotwar).

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What Paul did last night: Perfect weather yesterday — mid-70s, low humidity, a bit of a breeze. I spent most of the day working out on the porch, then went for a Perfect bike ride, and then back to the porch for an extremely pleasant Pandemic Porch Cocktails™ session. It was almost enough to make me forget that the world is such a mess.

Here’s the latest candy bar-themed tumbler:

Fun fact: The 3 Musketeers bar got its name because it originally came in three pieces — one chocolate, one vanilla, and one strawberry, like Neapolitan ice cream. The vanilla and strawberry components were phased out due to wartime ingredient shortages during World War II.

Only one more candy bar-themed tumbler to go. Can you guess which candy bar it will be?

Meanwhile: The branch is still there.

As always, you can see the full set of Pandemic Porch Cocktails™ photos here.

76 comments to History Mystery: A New Version of the Old English ‘D’

  • Adam Walter | June 11, 2020 at 8:54 am |

    I hope almond joy, but I’m guessing Twix.

    • Matt Beahan | June 11, 2020 at 9:09 am |

      Mars maybe?

      Fun fact – here in the UK our Milky Way bars are the same as your 3 Musketeers, whilst our Mars Bar is the equivalent of the American Milky Way. We don’t really have a version of the American Mars Bar. This is something that confused me greatly the first time I travelled to the USA!

      • Munch Suchland | June 11, 2020 at 9:37 am |

        I don’t think it can be Mars because he has a Milky Way glass earlier this week. And that, as you noted, is our version of the Mars bar. I was thinking M&M’s but he said candy-bar themed so that probably isn’t it either. Maybe Twix?

        • Munch Suchland | June 11, 2020 at 9:41 am |

          So 2 guesses for Twix. And now I read below and see not so. And in true-form, I over-thought the whole process and came up with reasons why the right answer (Mars) couldn’t be correct.
          People on my Trivia teams love it when I do this. Ugh… :)

        • Brett Alan | June 11, 2020 at 6:14 pm |

          There used to be an American Mars bar, which was nothing like the overseas Mars bar. It had almonds, and was eventually replaced by the Snickers Almond bar. When my wife, who is from overseas, asked whether she could get a Mars bar here, she was very confused when I said I never ate Mars bars because of the nuts.

  • Brian | June 11, 2020 at 9:03 am |

    Why would a police department in South Dakota be using the Confederate Battle flag? Their state is about 1000 miles from any part of the Confederacy.

    This kind of thing really puts the kibosh on that whole “Heritage not Hate” angle. South Dakota’s heritage doesn’t even remotely include being part of the Confederacy, so guess what you’re left with…

    • Paul Lukas | June 11, 2020 at 9:04 am |

      Did you read the article?

      I’m not defending the use of the flag in the logo, but the article does explain it. Personally, I think the explanation is weak, but it’s not like they just chose the flag out of nowhere.

    • Chris Weber | June 11, 2020 at 1:20 pm |

      Please give the article a read.

  • Jon | June 11, 2020 at 9:05 am |

    Mars bar?

    • Paul Lukas | June 11, 2020 at 9:08 am |

      Ding-ding-ding! Yes, that’s it. Honestly, I didn’t think anyone would guess it correctly. Good job!

      I’ll have more to say about that tomorrow.

      • Jon | June 11, 2020 at 9:21 am |

        I’ve always seen them as variations on the same candy.

        3 Musketeers is the base

        + caramel = Milky Way
        Milky Way + peanuts = Snickers
        Milky Way + almonds = Mars

        • StLMarty | June 11, 2020 at 9:28 am |

          Mad disagree.
          Snickers nougat is way more dense than the other two. Tastes way different too.

        • TIm | June 11, 2020 at 10:43 am |

          I described the candy bars to my sons that way, blew their minds. Sort of a progression from Three Musketeers to Snickers. I agree, the nugats are not exactly the same, but generally speaking, Jon’s take is accurate.

        • StLMarty | June 11, 2020 at 11:22 am |

          You could never have a Three Musketeers style bar made with Snickers nougat. It would be too much. Same reason The Costanzas was never a spin-off.

        • RS Rogers | June 11, 2020 at 11:25 am |

          Once I realized this as a child, I basically turned my back on 3 Musketeers (which had been my favorite) forever. It just seems like such a poor value! Just one ingredient, when for the same portion of a dollar (in 1980s money) you could get caramel too and/or caramel and nuts? On its own, a 3 Musketeers was fine, but once I realized the progression, every bite reminded me of the opportunity cost of the caramel and nuts not present.

          I long ago abandoned that whole class of candy bar, but I recently had a dark chocolate Milky Way and it was surprisingly good.

        • StLMarty | June 11, 2020 at 6:35 pm |

          And the plural for Snickers is Snicki.

  • Peter | June 11, 2020 at 9:10 am |

    It’s the City of Poughkeepsie, not town.
    The city is separate from the town and the article specifically mentions City of Poughkeepsie.

    • Paul Lukas | June 11, 2020 at 9:20 am |

      OK. Fixed.

  • Glenn | June 11, 2020 at 9:12 am |

    Footage of the Happy Days softball team in a different uni at Candlestick in 1977 (including Henry Winkler wearing #31 1\2) here: https://diva.sfsu.edu/collections/sfbatv/bundles/232397

  • Mike | June 11, 2020 at 9:15 am |

    I was pulling for a York Peppermint Pattie tumbler.

  • Wade Heidt | June 11, 2020 at 9:16 am |

    If the Canadiens must have a third uniform, I vote they go with the white throwback. The logical choice.

    https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/patrice-brisebois-of-the-montreal-canadiens-watches-the-play-against-picture-id2697866

    • Skott S. | June 11, 2020 at 10:55 am |

      You beat me to it, Wade!

      The white version of the chest stripe Habs jerseys are in my top 3 all time sweaters. Absolutely gorgeous.

  • Anthony Verna | June 11, 2020 at 9:20 am |

    Modern 3 Musketeers facts:

    In the U.S., Snickers, Milky Way, and 3 Musketeers are engineered/cooked for age groups.

    3 Musketeers has the most sugar of the three. This is because it’s aimed at children, whose taste buds want the sweetness.

    Milky Way has less sugar (not a ton of less sugar). This is because it’s aimed at teenagers and young adults, whose taste buds want sweetness, but a little less.

    Snickers has the least amount of sugar because it is aimed at adults, who tend to want even less sweetness once taste buds mature.

    (This was the story that was told to me by my former business partner, who used to be in-house counsel at many NYC advertising agencies.)

  • WFY | June 11, 2020 at 9:25 am |

    What makes a perfect bike ride?

    • Paul Lukas | June 11, 2020 at 9:29 am |

      Mostly the weather and the degree to which I clear my head.

      • Greg | June 11, 2020 at 9:48 am |

        Once we get back to normal I highly recommend you take a ride down to Cape May, NJ and take your bike on the ferry over to Delaware. There is a great state park right by the ferry port in Delaware you can ride your bikes through, which takes you into a little beach town. It is an excellent ride for clearing your head. Especially if you hit the right day in fall or spring when there are few people and the weather is just right. Also riding the ferry is always fun.

        • Paul Lukas | June 11, 2020 at 9:51 am |

          I love the Cape May ferry and have been on it quite a few times (although never with my bike). A post from 2017 even had a header photo of me and my friend Carrie on the ferry!:
          https://uni-watch.com/2017/11/28/of-oysters-and-obelisks-november-road-trips-report/

        • Michael | June 11, 2020 at 8:24 pm |

          I went back to read the Cape May ferry/oyster roast post, and boy does this sentence seem like it’s from a different universe:

          “And then everyone just dug in. With their bare hands. Simple as that! No chairs, no utensils — just a bunch of people standing outside, shoulder to shoulder, reaching in for a few more oysters and devouring them.”

  • Robert Erdtmann | June 11, 2020 at 9:45 am |

    Typo Alert

    “It was the first base hit in Comeria Park”

    Comerica Park

    • Paul Lukas | June 11, 2020 at 9:47 am |

      Thanks. Fixed.

  • AlMaFi | June 11, 2020 at 9:49 am |

    Re: MLB draft picks

    If they take the time to apply the NOB to the MLB jersey, why not slap the number of their draft placement (e.g. #1 for Torkelson) on the shirts? It makes little practical sense to leave it blank so I wonder if it was a logistical glitch. Like the person who put the jerseys together will get their package of numbers in the mail today instead of yesterday.

    • Paul Lukas | June 11, 2020 at 9:50 am |

      Either that or just make them all No. 20, for 2020.

      • Dave R | June 11, 2020 at 10:48 am |

        That what the Tigers did when they produced a wallpaper of Torkelson’s Jersey. http://twitter.com/tigers/status/1270903695484628994

        • boxcarvibe | June 12, 2020 at 8:14 am |

          …and in typical Detroit Tiger fashion, they didn’t use their own fonts for numbers, nor font-size for lettering. They definitely do NOT get it. Their retired numbers on the outfield wall are in a font never used by the team.

  • Greg | June 11, 2020 at 9:56 am |

    Love that bit of 3 Musketeers trivia. Definitely going to work that into conversations over the weekend.
    As a big fan of Neapolitan ice cream I a little bummed they have never brought back the original variety pack.

  • Taha | June 11, 2020 at 9:56 am |

    I don’t understand why they didn’t iron the jerseys. Someone else commented similarly on twitter. Gives it an amateur look

    Also, on Torkelson’s jersey, does it look like there is a space between the K and the E?

    • Mark in Shiga | June 11, 2020 at 10:45 am |

      The spacing is off there, and also on the Orioles jersey there is a big gap between the collar and the NOB, as if they knew they would never be putting a number there.

  • StAugustine | June 11, 2020 at 10:36 am |

    I did not like the first-round pick my Red Sox made until I saw him described by the Scouting Director this way:

    “He’s a blue-collar baseball rat,” Toboni said.

    So, he’s blue-collar AND a rodent. A sure superstar.

  • Matt | June 11, 2020 at 11:12 am |

    If anyone is looking for something to listen to, I recommend listening to today’s NBC Sports Sports Uncovered Podcast. It’s all about how Oregon’s college uniforms came to be.

  • AJ Kane | June 11, 2020 at 11:18 am |

    Food for thought: what would a white collar player be in each major sport?

    • RS Rogers | June 11, 2020 at 11:30 am |

      I think this could go two ways: On the plus side, players who embrace advanced stats and deeply study opponents before games to gain an edge. Who “work smarter, not harder.” Preferably who wear glasses.

      Alternately, there’s the Office or Office Space approach of using it as a label for layabouts or lazy players who coast on talent rather than hard work. The guys who don’t run out fouls or bloops or always look to pass on first contact with the ball/puck instead of advancing with it and/or taking a shot.

      • Mike Engle | June 11, 2020 at 11:39 am |

        Or, maybe a white-collar worker is an “itinerant leader.” Somebody who’s always getting brought in to show the young kids how to win or to be an example. In hockey (that’s the sport I think I know best), some examples I’m thinking of might be Mike Sillinger, Joe Nieuwendyk, Mark Recchi, or Jaromir Jagr.

        • Paul Lukas | June 11, 2020 at 11:42 am |

          I was thinking white collar could also be a team based on speed instead of “grit” — Greatest Show on Turf, e.g. No gritty work ethic needed, just razzle-dazzle!

      • Mike Engle | June 11, 2020 at 11:55 am |

        arr-Scott, if we go with your idea of “white-collar” meaning “deep study,” then I can’t think of a better example than Greg Maddux. Legend says that leading up to the 1996 World Series, he insisted that all the scouting reports on Bernie Williams were wrong, so Leo Mazzone let him rewrite the Braves’ approach against him. Bernie only had 4 hits, but one of them was a clutch homer…also, if complete game shutouts in 100 pitches or less isn’t “work smarter, not harder,” I don’t know what is. PLUS, he wore glasses! (Alas, only when not pitching. I loved seeing Maddux out of the game in his glasses, as if he took his game face off and he knew he wouldn’t need his game face for the rest of the night.)

        • AJ Kane | June 11, 2020 at 2:23 pm |

          Anytime they showed Maddox with his glasses on in the dugout on an off day, it always looked like he got lost on his way to his seat and wound up sitting with the players.

      • Bay To Bourbon | June 11, 2020 at 1:01 pm |

        White Collar Baseball Player? Gotta go with Roger “Effin'” Dorn.

      • AJ Kane | June 11, 2020 at 2:30 pm |

        I like the “smarter, not harder” thinking! To me, really creative players probably fall into “white collar” player as well.

    • RICKAZ | June 11, 2020 at 1:06 pm |

      I think a white collar team might be a team that has all the advantages, privileges, of a rich owner and large market. Some examples are MLB = Yankees, NFL = Cowboys, NBA = Lakers.

      • AJ Kane | June 11, 2020 at 2:22 pm |

        RICKAZ, I like this–I was thinking more like what the conversation above is focused on–advanced metrics, etc…

        I think both definitions have merit!

  • Zane | June 11, 2020 at 11:22 am |

    Two youth teams squabbling over a poached logo is far from the dumbest thing I’ll read today.

  • ChrisH | June 11, 2020 at 12:06 pm |

    “U.S. Soccer has voted to rescind its rule that had required players to stand during the national anthem”.

    NASCAR has announced a similar policy:

    https://nascar.nbcsports.com/2020/06/10/nascar-to-allow-peaceful-protests-during-national-anthem/

  • J | June 11, 2020 at 12:35 pm |

    My grandfather was in the 82nd airborne, stationed in Fort Bragg NC. The fort is named after Braxton Bragg, whom is regarded as a bad general. Definitely not winners.

    Quite honestly, I do understand those who want to keep the fort names, and the Confederate flag, and the monuments. I get the connection/nostalgia feeling of it.

    I understand those who feel that way, but I don’t agree with them. “My history” is different from our collective history as a nation. The Confederacy was on the wrong side of history. As a kid I was able to walk by Silent Sam at UNC’s campus and not think about slavery because I had a privileged status of being white. We as a nation must move forward, and to do so we must separate history and myth.

    To borrow a phrase from Indiana Jones, “It belongs in a museum!”

    • Chris Weber | June 11, 2020 at 1:23 pm |

      Weren’t the forts named at the time in the spirit of reconciliation?

      • J | June 11, 2020 at 1:55 pm |

        I am a huge fan of studying reconstruction, which is just as important as understanding what caused the war!

        But no, most of these camps/forts were established around WW1. Fort Bragg was named in the 1920s, which is where a lot of Civil War monuments went up. Right around the height of the KKK.

    • RS Rogers | June 11, 2020 at 2:44 pm |

      Most of the Confederate generals after whom Army bases are named were unsuccessful or unlucky, not necessarily bad generals. Except John Bell Hood of Fort Hood. That guy was a terrible leader. I’m unaware of any other American general who lost a larger percentage of his command in a single battle.

      Reconciliation was the overt justification for the namings, and also the Army’s general preference for adopting local or near-local names. Also, prior to the Cold War, federal military installations were (A) Not seen as desirable by local communities; and (B) Placed in part to “show the flag,” both of which tended to result in their placement in the South and West, so the Confederate names were political fig leafs as well as gestures of 50th-anniversary reconciliation. (Reconciliation among white men, it must be noted.) None of which applies today. There are no Civil War veterans to be reconciled. Military installations are highly prized by states and localities such that we could call one Forty McFortface or Fort Baal and local governments would battle to get and keep the fort. And the federal government no longer regards the placement of federal military installations as part of a soft strategy of deterring rebellion. So whatever one thinks of the original justifications for naming Army bases after Confederate officers, those justifications no longer apply.

      Personally, I would start the negotiation from the position of demanding that every Army base in the former Confederacy be named Fort Sherman, and then talk down to a middle ground of naming forts for locally relevant military heroes who never served the Confederacy.

      • Eltee of DC | June 12, 2020 at 1:09 pm |

        Well said Mr. RS Rogers.

        I spent a summer in Ft. Benning GA learning how to fall out of perfectly good airplanes as a newly minted 2nd Lt.

        I brought up that very same point to one of our Commanders. He summed the whole thing up by saying “We needed to get the dirt for big bases in the south and placating the rascists politicians was easiest way to get it done.” That answer only cost me 20 pushups. All I basically remember about jump school was doing a butt load of pushups in hot humid weather.

  • Scott Rothbart | June 11, 2020 at 1:01 pm |

    Paul, on my mobile site the 7 keeps interchanging with a 15 under the magnifying lens. Sorry if you have already done it, but can you explain the reference.

    • Paul Lukas | June 11, 2020 at 1:36 pm |

      For many years it was 7. On the site’s 15th anniversary, it changed to 15. At some point a tech glitch resulted in it flip-flopping back and forth, which it continues to do.

      • Scott Rothbart | June 11, 2020 at 2:58 pm |

        Thank you, Paul. But that brings the question, why 7 in the 1st place, curious any significance?

        • Paul Lukas | June 11, 2020 at 3:17 pm |

          It’s the number on my membership card. I’m a fan of odd numbers in general and prime numbers in particular.

        • Christopher Falvey | June 11, 2020 at 3:52 pm |

          Which is why my card number (from so many years ago) is 97. Largest 2-digit prime.

  • Chris Cruz | June 11, 2020 at 1:06 pm |

    I really had no idea that Syracuse’s Stadium was called the Carrier Dome due to a naming rights agreement. All this time I had simply assumed Carrier was someone important in the history of the school. Can folks think of any other examples of really long-standing arrangements like this?

    • Mike Engle | June 11, 2020 at 2:46 pm |

      I just Googled, so maybe what I’m thinking of isn’t as “longstanding” as I thought, but I’m thinking of the Mellon Arena. AKA Pittsburgh Civic Arena, AKA The Igloo, and the initial home of the Pittsburgh Penguins before they got a new barn. For the longest time, I assumed that Mellon, for Mellon Arena, had something to do with Pittsburgh. Carnegie Mellon University is in Pittsburgh, so I thought it was geographical. Nope. Mellon is a financial services company. Imagine my surprise when those naming rights expired! For reference, I’m a 1989 birth and I only came into hockey fandom at the age of 8, maybe 7 at the very youngest.

      • P. | June 11, 2020 at 4:03 pm |

        Mellon Arena was technically a naming-rights deal with the financial services company, as you said. However, the company itself is named for and was started by the Mellon family, who is from Pittsburgh. (That’s also where Carnegie Mellon gets its name.) Andrew Mellon was the Treasury Secretary of the US around the time of the Depression.

  • Joe Hickey | June 11, 2020 at 1:27 pm |

    Boy, the arching on the MLB draft NOBs sure is jacked up, too. Looks less like an arch and more like a wedge.

  • Lee | June 11, 2020 at 2:26 pm |

    I love that in the Park Ridge story, there isn’t a single mention that the logo in question actually belongs to neither side, but the Atlanta Falcons.
    If I were the Falcons, I go in and be all “you know what? NEITHER of you can use the logo. How’s that?”
    I’d do the same with the name if possible.

    Lee

  • Wade Heidt | June 11, 2020 at 2:56 pm |

    A matter of interest about the Prince Albert Raiders for those who did not know. 50th season coming up, but that was not all in the WCHL/WHL. They started as a tier 2 junior A team in the Saskatchewan Junior Hockey League. The organization remained intact when it was essentially “promoted” to the major junior WHL as an expansion team in 1982-83.

    Took only 3 seasons in major junior before they won the Memorial Cup in 1985. Winning that Memorial Cup in awesome green Cooperalls with yellow and white striping!

    https://i.cbc.ca/1.2992745.1426189250!/fileImage/httpImage/image.png_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/pa-raiders-championship.png

  • RobYaz | June 11, 2020 at 3:05 pm |

    Seems that practically every team under the sun has been declared “blue collar” by now. Has a player ever declined to sign with/commit to a team, or just attempted to disparage them in general, by saying they’re “not blue collar”?

  • Christopher Falvey | June 11, 2020 at 3:52 pm |

    Also Bubba Wallace had a Black Lives Matter livery for the NASCAR race yesterday

  • r4pm | June 11, 2020 at 6:50 pm |

    mother of corn! i didn’t know that about the those 3 musketeers. i just figured it was the answer to a question, like “out of three musketeers surveyed, how many agree that this bar sucks?”

    butterfinger, hands down, all in.

  • Dwayne Stern | June 11, 2020 at 8:04 pm |

    Maybe those two football organizations should play a game of “rock, paper, scissors to decide who gets to use the Falcons logo. Or maybe they should use their imaginations and come up with something on their own. Oh – my purple cap came today. A thing of beauty.

    • Paul Lukas | June 11, 2020 at 8:12 pm |

      I laminated your membership card today, Dwayne — will mail out tomorrow!

  • Patrick in MI | June 11, 2020 at 9:52 pm |

    I was hoping for Clark bar, possibly my favorite candy bar ever. Also, Necco wafers are coming back so I’ll be on the lookout for those soon.