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2016 Rio Olympics: Diving (And a Bonus Interview w/Gold Medalist Laura Wilkinson!)

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[Editor’s Note: Paul is on his annual August break from site. Deputy editor Phil Hecken is in charge from now through the end of the month, although Paul is still on the clock over at ESPN and may be popping up here occasionally.]

By Phil Hecken, with Kristina Cruz

Good morning Uni Watchers. Today we’ll be continuing with our Uni Watch “reader/correspondents” who’ll be taking a unique look at a number uniforms, and occasionally some histories and backstories, of the some of the sports being played at this year’s Games. Some of the sports are “popular” (and will be familiar to most readers) while others will be a bit more esoteric.

Today I’m pleased to introduce Kristina Cruz, who will take a look at Olympic Diving (actually, Kris has been feature on Uni Watch once before, with a terrific article on marching band uniforms). Not only that, after her overview, Kris interviewed Laura Wilkinson, who not only won a gold medal in Diving in the 2000 Sydney Olympics, she’s currently in Rio as a correspondent with NBC. So this interview is a great get by Kris, who shared some excellent perspective and insight, as you’ll see below. On that note, I’ll now turn the rest of this piece over to Kris. Enjoy!

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Olympic Diving
By Kristina Cruz

Any analysis on Olympic diving attire is going to be as much about what isn’t worn as what is. With that in mind, I’ve tried to understand not only the history of Olympic diving uniforms but also how they’ve evolved to what is worn by today’s athletes.

A little background:

“Fancy” diving dates back to the 17th century where it served as a summertime alternative to German and Swedish gymnasts. Platform diving (33 feet high or approximately 3 stories) for men made its Olympic debut in the 1904 St. Louis games. Springboard diving was added in the following 1908 games in London. Women were first participated in Olympic diving in 1912, completing only in plain high diving (no fancy diving). Springboard diving for women was added in 1920 and fancy high diving in 1928.
As can be expected, diving uniforms followed the more modest swimwear fashions of the day. The 1932 US Men’s diving team wore these interesting one piece suits.

1932 Mens Diving

For years, women wore even more modest diving wear than their male counterparts. Below is Victoria Draves, gold medal diver for the USA in the 1948 games, complete with swim cap. The chest emblem looks like looks comparable to what the men from 1932 wore.

Vicki Draves

By the 1940s, men’s diving had transitioned to shirtless uniforms, as can be seen in the image below of 1948 Olympic divers, from left: Bruce Harlan (USA), Charles Johnson (Great Britain), Sammy Lee (USA), Vicki Draves (USA), Juno Stover-Irwin (USA), and Peter Heatly (Great Britain). Sammy Lee, the first Asian-American to win a gold medal for the US in the Olympics, seemed to opt for a slightly lower on the belly and lower down the thighs version of trunks whereas the British men wore what can only be described as granny panties with a giant flag sewn on the front.

1948 Divers

By the 1980s, competition diving uniforms look much like they do today ”“ small Speedos for the men and simple one piece suits for the women, though I did think it interesting that Greg Louganis wore what almost looked like black Speedos during the 1984 games (though so did the US swim team).

GLouganis Diving

This brings us to the diving suits of today. Stars of the sport like Great Britain’s Tom Daly seem to prefer as little uniform as possible (as seen in the Great Britain uniform unveiling ceremony).

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This style is not unlike those displayed by the Australian’s in their swim team’s uniform unveiling:

Speedoaus Uniform Reveal

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Laura Wilkinson DivingTo try to better understand the nuances of current diving attire (or lack thereof), I reached out to US Olympic Gold medal diver Laura Wilkinson for some insight.

Kristina Cruz: Why do the men wear, well, so little? Is there a reason they don’t wear the longer pant type suits like many swimmers now do?

Laura Wilkinson: I’m not sure when the suits got the size they are now but mostly they don’t wear things like board shorts or shirts because the material would get in their way when they do their flips and twists. With how difficult diving is now, having a lot of material to not get in the way, much like a gymnast or the girl divers, just allows you to move more and not get caught in your material. Guys don’t need to wear compression pants like swimmers cause they’re not trying to be aerodynamic. Getting in the water with no splash is more about a timing with your hands and grab upon entry.

KC: Do they all shave their bodies? Does it make a difference?

LW: Divers don’t shave their bodies like swimmers. A guy might as a personal preference but in general they’re not trying to be aerodynamic like swimmers cause that doesn’t really make a difference for getting in the water. We’re not going for a time, its more aesthetics.

KC: Why don’t the women dive in 2 piece suits?

LW: Women don’t dive in two piece suits generally because it breaks your line. When you look at a diver in profile, there’s an aesthetic line you see so when you wear a two piece, it kind of breaks that line. We might train in one, especially if it’s outside but it would be like a Speedo drawstring, but not a skimpy little one you would wear to the beach. Mostly it’s about aesthetics. You have to have a pleasing line to the eye.

KC: In early days, it looks like women dove in swim caps. Why is that no longer done?

LW: The swim cap has actually made a big comeback, not in competition but in training. Most of the girls now, within the last 10 years, have started wearing caps again to keep the chlorine from absorbing into their hair. What they do is put a little conditioner in their hair and rinse it and put a cap over it before they get in the chlorinated water. That just keeps it from absorbing into your hair too much. It’s actually helped the divers get healthier hair and grow their hair out whereas before it was like chlorine fried and damaged. They don’t wear it in competition because it just doesn’t look as sharp. I never wore one so that’s weird to me but I guess back in the day it was more of a cultural thing that everyone (wore caps) to the pool.

KC: What USA uniform was your favorite?

LW: We have tons of types of suits so it’s usually a style or a pattern fit that I like. It’s been a while since I’ve worn a lot of those so I don’t know if I have a favorite to tell you about now but I think USA diving is sponsored by Nike right now so they wear Nike swimsuits and I know most of the divers like those a lot.

KC: Are there any suit nuances that people watching wouldn’t notice or are they just basic speedos?

LW: It just depends. Like I said, right now they’re sponsored by Nike but Speedo also has a big market in diving suits and internationally there’s ones like Li Ning and Arena so there’s just different styles and different cuts and different materials even. Some might be thicker than others and some might be tighter than others which might make your arms more sore on 10 meter (platform) like your shoulders so you have to get a right fit on what you like and what’s comfortable for you to wear.

KC: Can you recall any unusual competitor uniforms or any that particularly caught your eye?

LW: Just the different styles like the European swimsuits tend to be a very different cut from the American or the Chinese so it’s just different styles. I wouldn’t say anything’s really sticking out in my head.

KC: Why the chamois versus a towel?

LW: The chamois is because you can wring out the water and reuse it whereas a towel is going to get soaking wet by the end. A chamois you can wring it out, use it again, it’s small. It kind of becomes your safety blanket because it’s so routine to use it. And, besides getting you dry and keeping you warm, it helps to keep you from slipping. You dry your legs off so you don’t slip which a towel would do too but then you’d be carrying around a bunch of towels versus one chamois.

KC: Anything else you can think of to add about diving uniforms would be super helpful ”“ even anything historical you may know?

LW: For platform, you hit (the water) at 30 ”“ 35 miles per hour so it’s a pretty hard impact and that wears on your shoulders, like your traps (trapezius) get sore so if you have a suit that’s too tight and pulls on your traps, it’s going to be uncomfortable and make you more so you want a suit that’s comfortable but it can’t be so loose that it’s going to fall off on impact either so you want to find that right fit that works for your body type. That’s why there’s so many different cuts and styles.

What divers like to do internationally at competitions is trade suits when it’s over, and clothes too, but we love to trade so you go home and then you have like an Australian suit, a Canadian suit, and a Venezuelan suit or whatever and it’s just kind of fun to have suits from all over the world and you just remember your friends really well that way it’s just a fun tradition that we’ve always done.

KC: Did you keep the suit you wore when you won the gold?

LW: Yes I did. I’m very sentimental and have all the suits I won major events in and keep them in a box.

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Wow! Great stuff, Kris. Thanks so much not just for the overview/history, but also for the fantastic interview with Laura.

OK, readers: What say you?

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Collectors Corner
By Brinke Guthrie

On this 1960s Packers bumper sticker from Pabst Blue Ribbon- an example of using the logo as the first letter of a word — seems aesthetically confusing to me. Also the same thing here: take a look at this 1970s Mariners pennant. Anyone else besides me just see “M” and then also the “ariners?” Now for the rest of the week:

• The Pack didn’t restrict themselves to PBR. Here’s a photo repro of a 1960s ad poster from Miller High Life, “The Champagne of Bottle Beer.” (And perhaps the Official Beer of Max McGee.)

• Sharp contemporary graphics on this 1970s NHL Detroit Red Wings poster, am I right? Also on this 1970s NHL Atlanta Flames poster.

• Got a left-facing facemask going on with this 1970s-1980s Chargers promo glass from Dr. Pepper/Taco Bell.

• This Packers helmet plaque says “Officially Licensed” but in six years of doing Collector’s Corner I’ve never seen this type with the field markings on the back. Almost thought it was a DIY.

• Here’s a set of two dozen 1970s era MLB water-transfer decals.

Luv ya Blue! Nice old-time font and Pastorini-era blue helmet on this 1970s Oilers thermos.

• Always liked the 1970s NY logo for the New York Football Giants as shown on this helmet plaque. Have they ever used this in a throwback game? Here’s a better representation on this license plate. And as long as we’re on the G-Men, could this facemask be any….longer?

• People complain about how none of the colors on the Cowboys uniforms match. This 1960s bobblehead must have been the start of the trend. Notice he’s got three stripes on the sleeves, so this one dates specifically to 1965-1966.

• You’ll also get the three stripes on this 1960s Cowboys poster by The Master, Dave Boss.

• Here’s a 1970s keychain promoting WHA Indy Racers coach Jacques Demers.

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Of Weddings, Stirrups and Bobbleheads…

Few things are as popular on Uni Watch as stirrups, and bobbleheads (especially those created by Comrade Robert Marshall) are up there as well. So when you combine those two things, and throw in a wedding of a Uni Watcher…well, you get predictably awesome results.

I received this e-mail from Andrew Greenwood over the weekend, and well — I’ll just let him take it from here (you can click on any of the photos below to enlarge):

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Hey Phil,

Just thought I’d share this: Got married back in June, and convinced my bride and groomsmen that wedding stirrups was a good idea.

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Bystanders on Federal Hill in Baltimore seemed to like them, too.

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I also got a hold of Robert Marshall for those bobbleheads as groomsmen gifts (thanks for the help on that one). Pics attached. I think they were a roaring success.

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Andrew W Greenwood

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Holy shit, Greenie — that’s incredibly awesome. Thanks for sharing and a heartfelt congratulations and best wishes to you and your lovely bride!

And mucho props to Robert Marshall for the great job on the bobbles!

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Mike Chamernik
Mike Chamernik’s…

…Question of the Week

It’s been a loooooooong time since Mike Chamernik posed a question of the week for us, but he’s back from hiatus, and ready to go.

Here’s Mike:

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Setting aside all historical and socio-political context, what’s your favorite national flag design?

Since the Olympics are going on, this question was kicked around my office. Someone answered with Sri Lanka, which, if not considered beautiful, certainly has a lot of things going on. Another popular answer was Macedonia. It has a Japan-during-World-War-II vibe to it. Again, ignore all context and focus on design.

Which is your favorite? I didn’t want to go homer, but the United States has a tremendous flag, and so does Canada. My favorite flag is Uganda. I dig the grey crowned crane and the striking black-yellow-red color scheme. My next favorites are followed by Albania, because I love the menacing double-headed eagle, and Fiji. I have a thing for that particular shade of blue.

A full list of flags is available here.

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Great question, Mike. I’ll play. I’ve always loved the flag, or should I say the pennant, of Nepal. I suppose technically, it’s the world’s only non-quadrilateral national flag.

The two triangles represent the peaks of the Himalayas, and the moon and sun are for calm and resolve. If I had to quibble (and I don’t), I’d only wish it were in different colors. Imagine that in green, cream and gold!

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Splash

Grand Rapids Griffins Contest Design Reminder

I’m currently hosting a contest to redesign an alternate jersey for the Grand Rapids Griffins. All the details are here.

The deadline for all submissions is Thursday, August 11th (Midnight Eastern Time).

Remember to send all your entries to Phil.Hecken@gmail.com in the format described in the article.

Good Luck!

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The Ticker
By Mike Chamernik

Baseball News: You can vote for your favorite Cardinals jersey (from Phil). … The Norfolk Tides wore Norfolk Tars throwbacks last night. The Tars existed from 1906 to 1955 and were a Yankees affiliate for their last two decades (from @Hobotron2000, via Phil). … The Clinton LumberKings will wear 1991 championship throwbacks on August 20 (from Jason German, via Phil). … The Midland RockHounds will hold a What If Night in a few weeks, when they’ll become the Midland Millionaires. The nickname was one of the fan-submitted choices the team considered when it created a new identity in 1998. … The Rockland Boulders will host a Star Wars Night on Friday, the Springfield Cardinals will salute the Mother Road on Friday, and the Carolina Mudcats will hold a Super Hero Night on Saturday (all from OT Sports, via Phil).

NFL News: CNN ran an outdated NFL shield logo last night. As you know, the current edition has only eight stars, one for each division (from Chris Flinn). … Joe Montana wore a look-alike Niners uniform in an old Sanka ad (from Eric Wright).

College Football News: Mount Union going with the trendy helmet trifecta: BFBS, matte and chrome (from @JesseRedacted, via Phil). … New all-black uniforms for Arkansas State (from Doug Hazard, via Phil). … Coming this fall: A new look for Rex Henry‘s ACC Tracker. You can check it out here now!

Olympics News: Michael Phelps partakes in “cupping,” a recovery technique that uses suction which leaves purple dots all over his body. … Many participants from around the world get at a tattoo of the Olympic Rings on their bodies. This may cause problems in 2020, when the Games will be held in Tokyo. Authorities in Japan are trying to make tattooing illegal, and some establishments don’t allow customers with visible tattoos. … NBC correspondents and former figure skaters Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir talked Olympic athletic wear, among other topics (from Phil). … Here’s how Halston, Levi Strauss and Ralph Lauren impacted Olympic fashion during the last 40 years (from Phil). … Ibtihaj Muhammad, the first American athlete to compete in a hijab, won her first fencing bout yesterday (from Phil). … The process of designing an Olympic leotard takes around two years. That story goes into lots of detail on how the gymnasts’ outfits are made (from Phil). … An incorrect Chinese flag was lifted during a medal ceremony on Sunday (from Mark Guttag). … A French fencer’s phone popped out of his suit during his bout yesterday. And maybe this isn’t news, but I like that the fencers’ masks have their countries’ flags on them. … Chinese beach volleyballer Fan Wang wears a string bikini under normal bikini (good *ahem* spot by Chris Howell).

Hockey News: The NHL17 video game gives players the chance to relocate teams in franchise mode. The 19 destination options include small Canadian cities and Rust Belt metros. … A mask artist’s latest inspiration was the mid-1990s Blues prototype jerseys (from Phil). … New uniforms for the Hartford Wolf Pack (from Aaron Scholder, via Phil). … Jesse asks, “Do KHL refs have the year on back of jersey?

NBA News: Six incoming rookies, including No. 2 pick Brandon Ingram, signed with Adidas. … LeBron James, evidently, has a Kermit sipping the tea Cavaliers championship hat. … I forgot that Tim Hardaway threw a sideline TV monitor onto the court after he was ejected from a game in 2002.

Soccer News: Adidas launched Studio Creator, which lets fans design jerseys for the 2017-18 season (from Phil). … Here’s a MLS uni tracking update (from Kyle Burkholder, via Phil). … Dennis Hurley wrote a blog about when Ireland wore plain all-green kits for a match against France in 1973.

Grab Bag: In case we haven’t mentioned it here, Nike is partially withdrawing from the golf market. The company will still make shoes and apparel but will no longer produce clubs, golf balls and bags. On a related note, NY Post columnist Phil Mushnick called Nike and Tiger Woods out for their nonsense over the years (from Jerry Nitzh, via Phil). … Davis Love III and his wife picked out the uniforms and hats for the 2016 Ryder Cup team (from Wade Harder). … From fashion to interior decor, the more things try to look unique, the more homogenized they look (from Chris Bisbee). … Athletics at IPFW, which stands for Indiana University ”“ Purdue University Fort Wayne, will now be known just as Fort Wayne. The school’s nickname is the Mastodons (from Terry Mark, via Phil. … New logo for Subway.

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And that’s it for today. Fantastic job by Kristina on the lede, and thanks to Brinke for the Collectors Corner, Mike for compiling the ticker AND the QOTW, and Andrew Greenwood for sharing the stirrup & bobble photos/story. I’ll catch you all tomorrow, but until then…

Follow me on Twitter @PhilHecken.

Peace.

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“Good to see that Nike figured out that the US colors are not black, white and optic yellow.”

— Tim Dunn

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82 comments to 2016 Rio Olympics: Diving (And a Bonus Interview w/Gold Medalist Laura Wilkinson!)

  • Tyler | August 9, 2016 at 7:29 am |

    Always thought Seychelles had an awesome flag.

  • chris lahaye | August 9, 2016 at 8:02 am |

    Argentina,Sweden for my flags

    • Adam JK | August 9, 2016 at 9:37 am |

      I’ve got to agree with Argentina.

  • DenverGregg | August 9, 2016 at 8:20 am |

    Always love things vexillological.

    Fave current national flags from an aesthetic standpoint (alphabetical order): Jamaica, San Marino, Vatican City.

  • DenverGregg | August 9, 2016 at 8:21 am |

    Thanks for the diving feature. Had been watching lots of international diving on the BeIn channel as it’s one of the few things on TV these days that isn’t pervaded with political toxicity.

  • Dumb Guy | August 9, 2016 at 8:22 am |

    I like the Barbados flag.

    • walter | August 9, 2016 at 1:56 pm |

      That’s a good ‘un.

  • Dumb Guy | August 9, 2016 at 8:26 am |

    That Giants helmet plaque with the “long” facemask immediately reminded me of Joe Washington’s “extended” mask.

    http://www.helmethut.com/Redskins/JoeWashington.html

    • Brinke | August 9, 2016 at 12:39 pm |

      That’s who I thought of as well

  • Purple Amnesty | August 9, 2016 at 8:33 am |

    The flag of Wales is my favorite. Saudi Arabia was my favorite growing up, huge influence from Desert Storm trading cards! Anyone remember those?

    • arrScott | August 9, 2016 at 8:58 am |

      I saw a pile of those cards not long ago at an antique store. Good memories! But also depressing: Stuff that happened when I was 16 is “antique.”

      • DenverGregg | August 9, 2016 at 9:13 am |

        I knew you were a whippersnapper, RSR, but I sure didn’t think you were THAT young. Hokey smoke.

  • arrScott | August 9, 2016 at 8:56 am |

    Canada. Not even close. Then U!S!A!, Britain, Japan. There’s a special near-top group of great island flags, such as Greenland, St. Vincent, Kiribati, and Barbados.

    • Jon Rose | August 9, 2016 at 10:14 am |

      Yeah, from a pure design standpoint, you can’t beat Canada. Simple, uncluttered, immediately identifiable, and it doesn’t appear “backwards” when viewing it from the other side. Is there any other country that has such a simple, universal symbol like the red maple leaf?

  • Jake Patterson | August 9, 2016 at 8:58 am |
  • arrScott | August 9, 2016 at 9:02 am |

    Least favorite flag: Grenada. Cool little country, especially for Americans, but man, their flag is a mess. On the other hand, the gold, green, and red colors are terrific, and Grenadians like to decorate with signs and bunting in the national colors, so around holidays the whole island looks bright and fun. Simplify the flag design to focus on the nutmeg pod, and Grenada could have one of the world’s great flags.

  • Gusto4044 | August 9, 2016 at 9:02 am |

    It’s somewhat unusual to see a D3 school(even an elite program like Mount Union), roll out multiple helmets. The football budgets are tiny compared with the D1 programs, and usually the funding is needed elsewhere.

  • JohnMark | August 9, 2016 at 9:11 am |

    I love the flag of Greenland (which is probably why I am also particularly fond of the new “people’s flag of Milwaukee”). Seychelles and South Africa are also favorites of mine.

  • Mike Engle on iPhone | August 9, 2016 at 9:11 am |

    My normal answer is South Africa because in context of abolishing apartheid, going to that flag is amazingly powerful symbolism. It’s two roads merging, and all those colors somehow work together. Talk about leaving behind a colonial past–the old flag is more like a bureaucratic stamp. Ugh. South Africa has come a long way already in short time. But you said no sociopolitical history, so even though I still like South Africa on its design only…
    My next favorite is Brazil. A globe inside a diamond inside the rectangle. Bold but simple shapes. The colors are fantastic, but even on black and white TV, the flag would still be awesome. I also like Canada, Israel, and USA’s flags.

    • mike 2 | August 9, 2016 at 10:11 am |

      Agree completely. The South African flag is a great design if you don’t know the history, and once you know the history you realize how completely they nailed it.

      • arrScott | August 9, 2016 at 12:26 pm |

        Even more, the South African flag invites the viewer to learn about the history behind the symbolism. Best flag design to come out of the post-USSR global shakeup. Still doesn’t quite crack my top 3 or 5, but close, and it really puts to shame so many of its peers from the 1990s.

  • walter | August 9, 2016 at 9:16 am |

    There are so many beautiful flags, a fact redoubled by the proximity of my job to Rockefeller Plaza. I spend my lunch hours basking in the spectacle of a multitude of flapping national banners. But I’ll cast my votes for Kenya and Mongolia. A special favorite is Sicily, which features three disembodied legs (a triskelion) embellished with a Medusa head.

    • mike 2 | August 9, 2016 at 10:12 am |

      I’d go with Isle of Man over Sicily. The simpler design – one background colour, no head.

      • DenverGregg | August 9, 2016 at 11:09 am |

        I too prefer the Manx triskelion to the Sicilian.

    • Jon Rose | August 9, 2016 at 11:44 am |

      This is the first time I’ve seen the word triskelion in a non Star Trek discussion. Bravo!

      • mike 2 | August 9, 2016 at 2:27 pm |

        I wager 400 quatloos on the newcomer

        • Jon Rose | August 9, 2016 at 2:37 pm |

          Well, at least now I know I’m not the only nerd here. ;)

  • walter | August 9, 2016 at 9:24 am |

    Believe it or not, the St. Louis Cardinals, who have been around since dirt was new, have never worn a better uniform than the one they wear right now. I wouldn’t change a thing, with the possible exception of vertical-arching the player names.

    • arrScott | August 9, 2016 at 10:10 am |

      Almost agreed. The current unis need the script raised an inch or three. And they could only be improved with some kind of shoulder piping that echoes these Musial-era classics: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/130119202853-stan-musial-1960s-story-top.jpg

      Still, that’s just saying that the current Cards unis could be better, not that they’re anything other than the best the team has ever worn, which they absolutely are. Any other teams that date to the Grant administration (or in the AL, to the McKinley administration) that are currently wearing their best-ever unis? A few years ago, I’d have said the Giants and the Braves, but they’ve both screwed themselves over with terrible alts and ugly tweaks to the basic unis. Maybe the Sox, both Red and White varieties?

      • Jim Vilk | August 9, 2016 at 11:13 am |

        If the White Sox wore white socks, I’d be inclined to agree with you. But they don’t, so their best look was the era that Chris Sale doesn’t like.

    • Jim Vilk | August 9, 2016 at 11:09 am |

      Any Cardinals uni that has red caps for home AND away is my favorite. But if I had to pick one it would be the later pullover years when they had the gray road unis.

      • walter | August 9, 2016 at 1:22 pm |

        What I neglected to mention about the Cardinals is that even their accessories triumph over what had gone before: The alternate “bird” hat, the navy road cap worn only to contrast with the home team’s colors, the “St. Louis” home alt and striped stirrups all illustrate a sense of decorum and class that goes beyond mere conservatism.

    • David Cline | August 9, 2016 at 12:22 pm |

      Quote of the day: “the St. Louis Cardinals, who have been around since dirt was new …”

      I will be laughing at that well into the evening!

    • Steve D | August 9, 2016 at 7:34 pm |

      I wouldn’t vertically arch their names, as they never did so and they own that compact block font used in the 60s and 70s.

      I would go back to the larger front numbers, which they also owned from the 60s-80s…the front numbers today are wimpy.

  • Andrew Greenwood | August 9, 2016 at 9:30 am |

    Wedding photos taken by Brittany Thomas (http://brittany-thomas.com/). I meant to give her credit for that. Bobblehead photos by Robert Marshall himself.

    • JohnK | August 9, 2016 at 10:24 am |

      Congrats and great stirrups, Andrew. With the Baltimore setting and green and grey scheme, is there a Loyola connection? Lots of Greyhounds in my family for a number of generations now.

      JohnK

      • NickV | August 10, 2016 at 3:30 am |

        The first thing that I thought after seeing the stirrups and colors was remembering about the “Football Test” before the wedding in Baltimore -set movie “Diner”. The critical question in the test that the prospective bride was asked involved the “original” Colts franchise that was lost to relocation, and their original colors – Green and Silver. What a ballbuster!

  • walter | August 9, 2016 at 9:31 am |

    I’m with Brinke; I’d love to see a return to the neon-NY logo, if only for a game. But unlike other teams, the Jints seem loath to return to identities associated with their losing seasons. They couldn’t get out of their own way during the John Mendenhall years, but those were my favorite uniforms.

  • Tamaro Benz | August 9, 2016 at 9:42 am |

    Angola’s Flag has the Ginsu Knife on it. Hard to go wrong with a knife that will cut through shoes

    • hugh.c.mcbride | August 9, 2016 at 12:22 pm |

      “Hard to go wrong with a knife that will cut through shoes.”

      COTD, and words to live by.

  • Tom | August 9, 2016 at 9:51 am |

    Favorite flag is Norway. I like all of the nordic cross flags (Denmark, Sweden, Finland, etc), but the Norway of the blue/white cross on the bold red background pops. Instant recognition.

    The other two similar flags of Iceland and Faroe Islands just don’t have the same pop.

    Second favorite is Canada. Love it.

    Best city flag? Chicago. Easy to recognize and the unique six pointed stars each have historical meaning. I was convinced that Mayor Daley wanted to get the 2016 Summer Games so that the city could add a fifth star. Thankfully, the city was spared the expense and headache of the games.

    • Tom | August 9, 2016 at 9:53 am |

      Oh yeah… Jamaica! I forgot Jamaica. Great use of colors.

    • DenverGregg | August 9, 2016 at 11:24 am |

      Subnational flags? Arizona, Aruba, Newfoundland & Labrador, St. Gall . . . .

  • mike 2 | August 9, 2016 at 10:14 am |

    As long as we’re talking flags, have a listen to Roman Mars’ Ted Talk about vexillology and the five principles of flag design

    https://www.ted.com/talks/roman_mars_why_city_flags_may_be_the_worst_designed_thing_you_ve_never_noticed?language=en

  • Neeko | August 9, 2016 at 10:29 am |

    I liked the designs New Zealand came up with when they were thinking about a new flag

  • Jim Vilk | August 9, 2016 at 10:50 am |

    That’s not a full list of flags, because they left off my favorite: the Marshall Islands.
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Flag_of_the_Marshall_Islands.svg/640px-Flag_of_the_Marshall_Islands.svg.png

    I also like Brazil, Scotland, Canada and Slovakia to round out my top five.

    • Jim Vilk | August 9, 2016 at 11:53 am |

      They also left off Vatican City ( another favorite) and San Marino

      • Jim Vilk | August 9, 2016 at 11:55 am |

        My bad…they did include San Marino

  • JenInChicago | August 9, 2016 at 11:06 am |

    In regards to tattoos being an issue in Tokyo, considering cities/countries need to revise their laws to conform to the IOC’s will, I don’t believe it will be a problem.

  • Danya | August 9, 2016 at 11:11 am |

    Enjoy the Fiji flag while you can, Mike: http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=338007

    • DenverGregg | August 9, 2016 at 11:38 am |

      . . . and here are some of the contending potential replacements.

  • Jim Vilk | August 9, 2016 at 11:15 am |

    Since men’s diving is the only sport with less material than women’s beach volleyball, I didn’t think there’d be much to today’s article. I was wrong. Nice work!

    • The Jeff | August 9, 2016 at 11:24 am |

      I think it’s about time we went back to fully nude for the Olympics, like the ancient Greeks intended, don’t you?

      • Jim Vilk | August 9, 2016 at 11:32 am |

        Um, no. Especially for basketball…ESPECIALLY if Draymond Green is playing.

        • Tornaitbird | August 9, 2016 at 3:26 pm |

          Say no more. We’d lose a good chunk of the world’s future population. That and Draymond would end up having more flagrant fouls in one game than Ron Artest/Metta World Peace/The Panda’s Friend/Stop Changing Your Name Goddamit ever had in his career.

  • Macky | August 9, 2016 at 12:01 pm |

    I’m really surprised with Nike Golf selling hardgoods. Their top of the line offering is really solid as their balls are the best in the market.
    Just too bad that the golf market in the U.S. is full of pompous snubs.

    FYI, Nike and Titleist clubs are both manufactured by Endo Steel.

    • arrScott | August 9, 2016 at 12:33 pm |

      I’m hoping for some closeout deals on Nike equipment. Their last two generations of drivers – the neon yellow and the bright blue – have been the most forgiving and long-driving for my swing that I’ve ever sampled. But too spendy for my once-a-week golf habit.

      • T'Challa | August 9, 2016 at 1:49 pm |

        arr check out a Sports Authority near you they’re going out of business anyway

      • Macky | August 12, 2016 at 1:18 am |

        Vapor Fly line is already on closeout since 2 weeks ago.

  • Macky | August 9, 2016 at 12:01 pm |

    Edit* Nike Golf ceasing selling hardgoods, LoL.

  • Dan J | August 9, 2016 at 12:22 pm |

    The Fleur-de-lis has long been one of my favorite symbols so the flag for Quebec has to be in my list. The United States, Canada, Israel and France are among my favorites. If we’re going with states, we all know Colorado’s flag is the best ever!

  • Robert A. McIntyre | August 9, 2016 at 1:00 pm |

    Denmark, Faeroe Islands and the Fleur-de-Lis of the Quebec flag are my favorites.

  • Robert A. McIntyre | August 9, 2016 at 1:03 pm |

    The Georgian SSR flag I find visually appealing as well.

  • Seth | August 9, 2016 at 1:06 pm |

    That’s cool NHL17 has a relocation feature. Sega Genesis had a similar thing for “Deion Sanders’ Prime Time Football”, since that was around the time numerous teams were rumored to pull up stakes and move (and some did).
    Teams were named by city, not nickname; but if you knew the rosters, you could tell who each team was.
    I would just usually give Indianapolis back to Baltimore and move the New York AFC team to one of the non-represented locations. (I’d stick them in Hawaii a lot. IIRC, you could only have one team in Los Angeles. Think the Rams were considered “Anaheim”.)

    • T'Challa | August 9, 2016 at 1:51 pm |

      Madden has done this sporadically as well in the create a team feature

  • Andrew | August 9, 2016 at 1:34 pm |

    Two flags that I’ve always liked are those of Zambia and Burundi.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Zambia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Burundi

  • Judy A | August 9, 2016 at 2:41 pm |

    I’ve loved the Union Jack since I was a kid and I still kind of feel like it’s the Union Jack and then everything else.

    That said, I agree with everybody who mentioned the simplicity of the Canadian flag. Aesthetically I also like Iceland and Turkey. Beyond aesthetics, I love the Spanish flag so much I got a tattoo of it on my ankle when I was in my grandmother’s hometown of Seville a year ago.

    • Jon Rose | August 9, 2016 at 3:53 pm |

      The Union Jack would be PERFECT if the St. Patrick’s Cross weren’t slightly pinwheel. I’m sure it’s like that for a reason, but it triggers my OCD something awful.

      • Jon Rose | August 9, 2016 at 3:55 pm |

        PinwheelED. Stupid autocorrect.

  • Tornaitbird | August 9, 2016 at 3:22 pm |

    My favorite flag ever has to be a tie between Canada’s flag, South America, and the Union Jack. A close second would be the flag of my hometown, Los Angeles. The Galaxy’s third kit is based off of the flag, but the flag itself could do without the stupid city seal. If LA needs a new flag (which it might need, actually) then I hope they just keep those colors. The Fiesta Flag was even shown in the Olympics, as USA’s banner couldn’t, cause of Cold War crap in the 80’s… Yeah, I have lots of love and respect for my city flag. Shame it doesn’t get used often like Chicago or Washington, though, but that would mean the flag would be doing its job perfectly. Also, the Lakers need a rebrand, but that’s just my opinion. That was only tangentially related, sorry.

    • Tornaitbird | August 9, 2016 at 3:36 pm |

      Oops, meant South AFRICA, not South America. That being said, I like Brazil’s flag. In terms of Central America, Mexico. That golden eagle is beautiful. Take some notes, San Fransisco.

  • Jon Rose | August 9, 2016 at 4:03 pm |

    State flags: Ohio. Honorable mention to New Mexico.
    City flags: Chicago. Truly in a class by itself.

  • PaulS | August 9, 2016 at 5:15 pm |

    As long as we’re talking about Kristen and her piece on marching bands, it’s Drum Corps International (DCI) Finals week. Thursday night the preliminary rounds begin, with the finals on Saturday night. The preliminaries are live cast to movie theaters across the country, and the finals can be streamed live online.

  • Kris L | August 9, 2016 at 5:25 pm |

    My top 5…
    1: United Kingdom
    2. Sweden
    3. United States
    4. Dominican Republic
    5. Israel

  • Kenny Ocker | August 9, 2016 at 6:55 pm |

    Mozambique’s flag could kick your favorite country’s flag’s ass.

    Got to love any flag with an AK-47 inexplicably on it.

  • Jacob | August 9, 2016 at 7:07 pm |

    Panama
    Finland
    Cuba

    I guess I like the blues a lot

    Non-country:

    New Mexico

  • Kevin | August 9, 2016 at 9:44 pm |

    In the NHL 17 relocation video, EA uses the skyline of Columbus for Cleveland

  • Ryan Madden | August 9, 2016 at 10:27 pm |

    QotW:
    I find Albania’s flag to be particularly badass:
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Flag_of_Albania.svg/2000px-Flag_of_Albania.svg.png

    I’m also partial to Saint Lucia.

    Bonus points for Nepal for going with a distinct shape.

  • Mike Ortman | August 10, 2016 at 12:26 am |

    Yeah obviously Armenia’s version of Betsy Ross was hardcore. Before I saw that I was going to go with the “Don’t Tread on Me” snake flag from the US, or the current California flag with the bear. Setting aside all historical, sociopolitical context of course for all of the above.

  • Ken Traisman | August 10, 2016 at 7:02 am |

    The Caribbean nation of Antigua and Barbuda.

  • Negretsby | August 10, 2016 at 2:13 pm |

    Mexico, and swaziland