About two years ago, I attended a media event at the NBA Shop in Manhattan. On my way out, I noticed some interesting T-shirts and sweatshirts — most of them with a retro-ish feel — from a company called ’47 Brand, which I’d never heard of before. Since I’m often behind the curve when it comes to merchandising and retailing, I figured the company had probably been around for a while and I just hadn’t noticed.
As it turned out, ’47 Brand had just made its debut that year. The company, which is based just outside of Boston, has since elevated its profile, most notably by scoring a new licensing deal with the NFL (you can see some of their new NFL product here. Rather amazingly, this makes them the only wholesaler with licenses for all of the Big Four leagues.
As most of you know, I don’t get too excited about T-shirts, jerseys, caps, and the like. But as far as such things go, I tend to like ’47 Brand’s stuff more than I like a lot of other stuff I see out there. So when I was offered the chance to speak with the company’s creative director, Craig Rodia (shown at right; click to enlarge), I said sure. Here’s how our recent conversation went.
Uni Watch: I’m told that you got your start at Brooks Brothers. That seems like an odd starting point for someone who ends up in licensed sports apparel.
Craig Rodia: I had no intention of ending up in this industry. I just wanted to live in New York City after college, and an opportunity came up at Brooks Brothers. I love design, so I went for it, and I loved it. I eventually moved on to Lids, back when they were still small, so that was my introduction to licensed apparel.
UW: When was the ’47 Brand officially “born,” so to speak?
CR: In 2010.
UW: What does the 47 stand for?
CR: The brand emerged from a partnership I had with another company, called Twins, and they were founded in 1947.
UW: Give me an elevator pitch of the brand’s style, or mission.
CR: We started out more on the vintage side of things, and that’s still near and dear and us. But now I’d say we’re a fashion brand that happens to do licensed product, as opposed to other companies that do licensed stuff in order to be fashionable. We’re looking at the latest trends out there — the street market, the skate market, the teen market. We’re all over the blogs, looking for inspiration. Everybody on my team reads your stuff religiously. So the stuff we put out is very detail-oriented. And when I say details, I mean the fonts, the appliquÃ©s, the construction and fit. We like to say we’re a lifestyle brand.
UW: How would you describe your licensed apparel as compared to what’s produced by Nike, Reebok, or Adidas?
CR: I would say we’re more lifestyle. And we spend a lot more time on the details — the fabric, fit, and finish. The fabrics that we use have taken a long time to develop. In some cases, we’re still perfecting it. We spend so much time on things like where we buy the cotton from. It bugs me when I see someone from the competition who takes a normal T-shirt and dips it in silicone to soften it. We don’t do that; we use good materials.
UW: I’m sure the other companies would say they use good materials and sweat the details too.
CR: Sure. But another thing separates us is that we have a very wide-ranging line, from headwear and T-shirts to sweaters and dresses. That’s part of what makes us more lifestyle.
UW: You’ve used that term “lifestyle” a few times now. What do you mean when you say that?
CR: My goal is to get people to say, “Holy crap, I love that shirt because it looks cool,” not necessarily because they’re a fan of that team.
UW: So you’re not after the hardcore fan, necessarily. You’re looking to seduce the more casual fan.
CR: Exactly. For example, half of the apparel we sell is to women. I think that’s attractive to a league, and that’s part of why the NFL chose to work with us.
UW: One thing I notice is that those other companies tend to put their own logos very prominently on their apparel, but you guys don’t do that. Your logo only appears on inside back collar, where you list the size, the fabric content, and so on. That’s obviously a conscious choice on your part.
CR: It is, but we’re changing that.
UW: Oh, really?
CR: Yeah. It’s something we’ve been talking about for a long time here internally. We are going to start putting a small “47” on the side of our hats and on the apparel pieces. It’s gonna be a little tab label.
UW: Where will that be located on, say, a T-shirt?
CR: It’ll be on the bottom left, by the hemline.
UW: That’s still much less prominent than where the other companies typically put their logos. So what was the thinking on that? Like, was the lack of the logo hurting you from a branding standpoint?
CR: Exactly. We were looking for ad agencies to work with, and they all said, “We had no idea who you were. Then we went to our closet and realized you had made all our favorite hats and T-shirts, but we had no idea who you were.”
UW: Why had you previously made the choice not to put your logo on your product?
CR: Because I’m a “Less is more” guy, I’m a real traditional guy, and I don’t love that approach. The stuff I normally wear — I don’t think I wear anything that’s branded. So for me, it’s a little bit tough. But as a business decision, I think it’s the right thing to do.
UW: So that was hard for you?
CR: Very hard. Still is.
UW: I like that you use sewn lettering and patches for a lot of your shirts. Have you always done that?
CR: Yes. I’d say more than half of our stuff is printed, not sewn. But I really like the sewn stuff, because it’s all hand-cut, hand-done. And I like mixing sewn appliquÃ©s with printed stuff, because it creates a sense of dimension and depth — I love that. And the sewn pieces are the same fabric as the shirt, so when you wash it, it all shrinks at the same rate.
UW: No puckering.
CR: Right. And it’s all dyed the same, too.
UW: You guys have a very retro feel. I know you said you were moving away from that, but I still see it in your designs. How do you achieve a retro look for a team that’s fairly new, like the Houston Texans?
CR: It’s difficult. Like, on the NBA side, we’ve been trying to come up with designs for the Oklahoma City Thunder. That’s a real struggle for us.
UW: It’s not an obvious fit for you.
CR: It’s not, no.
UW: So what do you do?
CR: We find a way. It’s more of a challenge, but we find a way to interpret their logo in a way that makes sense for us. As long as it looks good, that’s what I care about.
UW: Tell me about this new deal you have with the NFL.
CR: The NFL deal basically makes us a year-round business, which really takes us to a new level. So we can go to a place like Nordstrom now and say, “We have every league,” which makes it much easier for them to buy from us. And our head.
As you can probably guess, I was disappointed to hear that the company will be introducing logo creep to its product (although the little hemline tab sounds like it might be easy enough to remove with scissors or a seam ripper), and I was also uneasy with Rodia’s repeated use of the term “lifestyle.” Still, I like the look and feel of a lot of the company’s product. My thanks to Craig for an interesting discussion.
ESPN reminder: In case you missed it yesterday, my latest ESPN column is a look at Native American imagery in sports. I know we’ve talked about that quite a bit here on the blog, but I went out of my way to take a more reserved tone in this ESPN column, plus I had some new (if limited) research to contribute to the discussion. Check it out here.
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