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The Tao of Steve — Part I

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By Phil Hecken

If you like baseball, and you like color photography — and you love baseball uniforms of the 60’s and 70’s — then I hope you have a couple of hours handy today.

Several years ago, old Uni Watch readers (or should I say, “long-time” Uni Watch readers) will remember, we frequently made reference to a site, called “Steve’s Baseball Photography Pages (A pictoral history of baseball in the 1960s and 70s” or thatsmyboy03.com. Like the name implies, it contains thousands of beautiful color photographs (posed, game action, non-game photos) from those two colorful decades, chronicling every team and various different uniforms worn during those two decades. You can get lost in there, literally — I remember spending hours upon hours just checking out the photos.

If you look at the home page, you’ll note that Steve’s last update was July 4, 2009. I’m not sure what happened since then (and I believe at one time that site was listed under the Uni Watch Recommends [a/k/a “links”] section of this blog). But there are probably thousands of readers who’ve come aboard UW since 2009 who have never experienced SBPP. It’s incredible.

The site is basically divided into two sections — the “team pages” (Boston Red Sox, Detroit, Houston and Kansas City, and Philadelphia and Pittsburgh just to name a few), and then there are the “blog”-ish posts — which in my mind is where the real gems reside. I’ll be taking a look at some of the more awesome pics in the first half of those today, just to whet your appetites.

Anyone who loves baseball (or even doesn’t, since the photography is outstanding) really should spend a bunch of time on this site. If you’re like me, in your mid-to-late 40s, and you grew up with most of these uniforms, then this will be both a trip down memory lane and a look back at the time when baseball was transitioning from wool flannel to double-knits, color tv was coming into vogue, and almost anything went when it came to fashion both on and off the field. If you’re younger, this is going to be quite a history lesson for you, and one which I’m sure you’ll enjoy.

OK, enough of my yakking — lets take some looks at some of the more awesome shots contained in SBPP:

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• Steve has several photographs of Boog Powell — but I bet not a lot of you will remember (or think of him) as a Dodger! (And thanks to the Cleveland Indians all-red ‘blood clots’, a none-too-flattering pic in that uni as well.)

• “Getting it right the first time:” The Minnesota Twins road uniform was perfect from the get-go, and has never looked as good as the first years.

• The Brewers, who moved from Seattle after just one season, basically kept the road and home uniforms from the Seattle Pilots. Yes, there are lots of Pilots photos. Lots and lots — loved those scrambled eggs on the brim.

• I’m not a big fan of vests (or sleeveless jerseys, nowadays), but for some reason, I always loved the Cleveland Indians look — they wore those from 1963-1969, although with a blue cap and (and red sleeves) in 1963 & 1964.

• There are a couple of sections with great shots of the 1972 All Star Game. There were a few good hitters at that game…for both sides. I hope the Astros return to the blue-dominate “shooting star” uni next season, but even I’ll admit, the orange looked pretty fine too.

• For the monochrome uniform lovers, there are dozens of photos of the Padres in their gold (they wore that in 1972 & 1973, although in ’73 they wore the roads with white sanis) — and look at how empty Fulton County stadium appears there. Plus the Fathers in brown tops and gold tops over white pants with gold sanis/brown stirrups.

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• It might be the color filter, but look how blue the Phillies powder blues were.

• Hmmmm…signs of the times — what’s that in the background? Yes, less enlightened times back then.

• Not a big fan of this Cubs sleeve patch, although others disagree.

• On the other hand, I loved this White Sox uniform (worn in 1969-70) — probably because they paired it with blue sanitaries.

• The Reds wore this pinstriped vest with matching cap from 1961-66 (and the sleeve hems were black — a very interesting quirk begun in 1961, when the originally plain vests had one single black piece of piping, begun as a memorial for team owner Powell Crosley). They added the reciprocal stripe in 1962 and kept it there for five years. But the “C-reds” patch was navy blue (sometimes mistakenly depicted as black in throwbacks).

• Lots of photos of the Senators (1968-71), including the blue script and block “W” cap home and road (1959-60,), as well as the pinstripes & blue curly W cap home and road (with dropshadow “W” and soutache!).

• Some great shots of the KC Athletics (look at the TV number), which they wore only in 1961, the sleeveless vest & white crown cap (a rare 1962 alt), and then green and white (and sometimes green and gold), when Charles O. Finley began making his mark on baseball (they began wearing green/gold in 1963, and added the green & white in 1964 and wore it through 1967).

• Many of Steve’s shots are from Spring Training, and it’s always jarring to see jackets underneath uniforms, particularly when they’re in different colors from what the sleeves would be.

• The Orioles used to have an odd-looking sleeve patch, which to my knowledge, never brought back through all their uniform iterations over the years.

• More monochrome: sprinkled throughout the website are photos of the bloodclot Indians and the all-orange Baltimore Orioles.

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• LOVE this photo of Larry Doby, wearing a special coaches soutache cap — speaking of special caps for coaches, the Oakland A’s manager and coaches wore white caps for years to distinguish them from players.

• You guys know the Pirates wore a “21” patch for Roberto Clemente, but prior to the patch, in one of the first uni-memorial gestures, the simply wore a black ribbon (I believe) safety-pinned to their sleeves. And how great were those flocked helmets?

• I know a lot of folks don’t like the Braves wearing the solid blue cap with their roads, but it’s actually a harkback to 1968-71 unis, before they went to the wild feather-on-sleeve look.

• When did the Padres (top row, center) wear this? Not in the bigs — that’s a shot of the PCL Padres, in a uniform that looked similar to this 1952 one — anyone have an idea of the date on this one? Ricko?

• I’m not sure if this is a goof or not but look at the size of that glove (on Fritz Peterson — bottom row, left)!

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That’s going to do it for this installment of the Tao of Steve. If you spend the rest of the day on that site, don’t say I didn’t warn you!

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#NoUniAds Campaign…Day 28

This will be a regular feature on Uni Watch until the NBA rescinds its incredibly offensive and stupid proposal to place corporate advertising on uniforms.

And now, a personal note from Paul:

It’s important that we keep making our voices heard: Call the NBA’s publicly listed phone number (212-407-8000), ask for Adam Silver’s and/or David Stern’s office), e-mail deputy commissioner Adam Silver at his his publicly listed address (asilver@nba.com), and tweet to @NBA with the hashtag #NoUniAds. Do it now.

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READER SHOUT-OUT TODAY: Dan Bewley is a reporter with the CBS television affiliate in Tulsa, OK. He’s also an avid reader of Uni Watch.

He writes, “I’m curious about your campaign to stop the NBA from putting ads on NBA jerseys. I was wondering if you’ve had any contact with NBA fans here in Oklahoma who are upset. I’d like to do a story on that but I would need to speak with a local fan.”

So, If you’re on board with the #NoUniAds movement and live in or near Oklahoma City, drop us a line! OK? OK!!!

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Now, more of your letters to the NBA:

Gabe Billig (who has a unique twist to the campaign, although I’m uncertain as to its efficacy):

dear “Mr.” Silver
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Matt “Chicago Shep” Shepardson (who writes not to Mr. Silver, but the UW community with this admonition):

The more I think about the NBA survey about adding ads that they sent yesterday, the more sick I get about it. I mentioned in the comments section yesterday that I didn’t fill it out because it didn’t have a “no ads” option in the questions and I didn’t want to be part of the spin that the survey results will surely borne. I was being slightly smartly about the spin, but as I’ve thought about it, I really think that the questions have been designed in a way as to facilitate provide either a supporting info set for their chosen outcome, or a facilitate a response similar to “it isn’t as bad as people thought… the ads we’re *actually* using are so much less obtrusive than people assumed they would be”.

I know that it’s fallen off the front page, but I’m afraid if we don’t come up with some new angle (I’m not sure how many more emails/phone calls/tweets I can make without being classified as a stalker,) we will discover that the NBA is moving forward with what will change the aesthetic of every American sports league forever. I’m not sure I have any concrete ideas, but there has to be a way to make a point and utilize the larger media to make our point for us. I’m hoping that we haven’t list this already…

Good points, Chicago Shep. But we can’t approach this with the attitude that the NBA has already decided to move forward with the ads. Perhaps a new and different campaign is needed — if anyone out there has any new ideas, please share them in the comments.

Thanks for keeping the faith readers! We can stop the NBA if we can keep up the pressure.

#NoUniAds!

Thanks to Tim E. O’Brien and Chris Giorgio for the image in the upper right of this section!

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Attention! Stirrups!

This past Monday we had a fantastic lede from Comrade Robert Marshall. If you haven’t read that, do yourself a favor and do so now. In case you missed it, Robert is back with more stirrup offerings, and he discusses them below:

* As far as “new” offerings go, I have a feeling interest will be underwhelming, but that has to come with the territory every now and again. On the bright side the latest crop were shipped to me last Thursday, and will be in Chicago on Tuesday 9-15, at the latest, so there is that bonus.

* Some have asked me what the “official” stirrup of the Revolution is, and I say Nap gave us the stirrup and called it good, so they are all good, book closed. but I need/want to reissue the Nap for those who say, yeah, I dig what Nap put down. Even if it wasn’t the “first” stirrup, it was what started the revolution, and at conception was navy and white hose in a style vastly under appreciated, love the single fat stripe. And it is a early 1900’s 4″ instead of the usual 5″, sorry 7ist counter revolutionaries.

* I feel the need to say thank you to Kansas City and the wonderful people I met there, so why not a Monarch in navy and gold?

* Reissue “new” choices include the Bravos, Phillies, and Athletics (also a KC shout out, but in dark green).

* If there is anything else you are looking for maybe I can help at robertmarshallart.com

from each according their stirrvp,
to each according their strype.

comrade 91200

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“Benchies” first appeared at U-W in 2008, and has been a Saturday & Sunday feature here for the past two years.

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You win some, you lose some, sometimes you dodge a big ol’ bullet…

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Uni Watch News Ticker: Lukas Hoffland was reading through his copy of the 2012 Green Bay Packers yearbook this evening when he noticed something odd. The jerseys in the yearbook photos looked awfully clean. Like, pre-logo-creep-era clean. The cover of the 2012 yearbook has a Reebok and a no-Reebok version. From the Packers Pro Shop website, the cover WITH the Reebok logo, and, from the Packerville, U.S.A. blog, the cover WITHOUT the Reebok logo. … “Hanley’s lower leg stylings,” says Dustin Kline. “The Dodgers posted this picture on their facebook page on Aug. 9. I know things are laid back in LA, but no socks at all? C’mon man!” … More “same logos” from Alexander Tsipis: Eagan High School looks almost identical to KSU. … Paul Lee says, “I know this is an article from March of last year, but since Carmelo was late in filing for number 15 for the 2011-12 season, is it possible that he filed to wear number 15 before March 1, 2012 for the upcoming 2012-13 season to coincide with the new NYK jerseys?” … From the “Ah, isn’t that cute” file: Coleman Mullins found this old photo of himself in Little League (’88?). Look close, stirrups! … A couple of people noticed Yankees Manager Joe Girardi was wearing a Yankees jersey with the Majestic logo. On the field – Two nights in a row. Says Paul, who forwarded that to me, “Scandalous!” … Doug Keklak grabbed this shot of former Pirates reliever Kent Tekulve with his name misspelled on his jersey at Pirates’ Fantasy Camp. … Check out this video of names being added to Penn State jerseys (thanks to Andrew Hoenig). … Yesterday, I ticker-linked to WarBlogles old Auburn jerseys. He forgot to send the link to his original post showing all of Auburn’s uniforms. … Eddie (Atari) Westfield notes the Giants have blue Nike-swooshes on their white practice jerseys. Will this carry over to their gameday whites? … Matt Daley notes Bowling Green is an Adidas school. On Monday at BGSU’s football practice, one of the coaches came out wearing Nike gear. This mistake earned a post-practice punishment, where the coach had to run a drill normally reserved for players who mess up in practice. … Jonathan Mayer says there are a couple uni-notable things in this picture. We all know college teams have multiple players with the same number, but it still looks strange to see all the duplicate numbers. Also, they went with the monochrome blue look, and the rumored matte blue helmet is shown up front. … Chris Mahr informs us UMass Football Gets All-Black Helmets for 2012. Sweet. We need more BFBS. This was also noted by Joe Condon, and seconded by John Glynn. … “Nike to make a run at taking over Wilson as NFL football manufacturer?” asks Justin Howland. “Rubber laces. Footballs color-coded to match teams. swooshes everywhere. groan.” (also spotted by Dan Rakowski) … Rick Friedel saw these All America game caps on UA’s facebook page. “I think its a nice touch that they used Maryland’s state colors,” he says. … Jason Mott found this photo of Cal Ripken in a Rays jersey. Odd. … Interesting find from Daniel Rerko on synthetically laced footballs. From the article, it seems that quarterbacks have been having trouble with new synthetic laces on the preseason game balls. He adds, “Sounds a whole lot like thee NBA’s issues with switching from leather to synthetic basketballs.” … “Fi+SrNOB” alert from Alex Skelton who notes Pierre Allen Sr. is a defensive Lineman for the Nebraska Cornhuskers, and who features a first initial AND “SR.” on his jersey. … Donnie Gould “Found this interesting when I was surfing around the Premier League team pages. If you scroll down it will show you all of the team kits, plus both the club sponsor and the kit supplier which are both links to their respective websites.” … Shouldn’t the Cardinals pennant only be found in Somalia?: Ben Ford “went to a pizza place in Kansas City today that had World Series champion pennants for BOTH the Royals and Cardinals. (The Royals actually won.) The restaurant (www.waldopizza.net) sells “St. Louis-style” pizza, so maybe the owners are Cards fans and it’s a bit of wishful thinking on their part. Don’t know where they would have bought the pennant, though.” … Condoleeza Rice claims the Browns as her team (thanks Brinke. … “Ever see this before…pretty cool early technology” writes Alan Tompas, referring to this very early helmet-cam (too bad those aren’t blue brown Bronco helmets. … Richard Drummond is a student at CMU. “We just unveiled our new football unis and I have to say, I really like the gold alternate. I don’t know how I feel about the black yet though! Here’s the hype video.” Thanks to Jeff Ash, we learn the Old Expos logo has become a fashion statement, for younger hipsters, according to the CBC. … It’s one thing to outsource your USA Olympics unis to China, like Ralph Lauren did. This is quite a bit worse. From Mike Wissman: “Saw this at Macy’s on Saturday in the section with all of their overpriced Olympic gear. There were several countries represented but I found it rather appalling that in this case, given the year they’d select Germany. 1934 wasn’t exactly a year to celebrate in German (or world) history. And if Lauren had chosen to ‘recognize’ that great year of 1935 instead, that flag of Germany would have looked much different. Surprised they can get away with this. Completely insensitive to those still living today who were impacted by the horror of the Nazi regime.” … More on the Irish in Ireland from Warren Junium: New Adidas pant and jersey for ND.

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That’s it for this fine Thursday, everyone. Thanks to my guest wri…wait, I actually did this one all by myself. Anyway, make sure you read the #NoUniAds section, if you haven’t, and if you live in the OKC area and are on board with our campaign, be sure to drop us a line. Thanks to Ricko, as always, for the Frisbee chronicles, and make sure you buy a pair or three of stirrups from Comrade Marshall. I want to warn everyone in advance that today is going to be a personal day-from-hell for me (at least a 14-15 hour workday, among other things — and if you saw my comment total yesterday, that was no picnic either), so hopefully the ticker submissions will be light (and I hope to get to all of them for Friday). But Morris Levin will have another great lede for you tomorrow, as usual. Everyone have a great day.

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“In the entire interest of clarity, I knew what you meant (being that I’m a guy), but there is a good percentage of the population (>50%, if I recall correctly) that don’t get a guy’s perspective.”
–Teebz

 
  
 
Comments (178)

    DAMN! Incessant meetings ruined my productivity yesterday. Now Steve’s website will suck the time out of today. How will I explain this to my boss?

    Love Steve’s site. Have since the moment I stumbled onto it about four years ago.

    This, btw…
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    …isn’t an Alt as we know an Alt today.

    That was the A’s uni for every other road game in ’62 (stirrups were red, too).
    The other road version was the navy hat with red visor worn with navy sleeves and stirrups.
    Went to a double header vs. Twins at the Met just so I could see both unis on the same day.

    Don’t know that they ever wore the red sleeves and stirrups at home.

    Another oddity from Steve’s site is the photo of Bill Mazeroski and another player wearing the black hat with the 1970-1976 mustard uniforms. I had never seen that before, and didn’t know MLB had different batting practice or spring training hats in the early 70s. Very unusual.

    It was my recollection the black hats were shelved completely until the mid 1980s after the club left Forbes Field in mid 1970.

    Things were pretty loose in spring training back then.
    For one thing, visual coverage was next to zero so there wasn’t much focus on packaging/marketing as it related to unis, merchandise, etc.

    I mean, teams didn’t even have a new logo for spring training every year. :)

    re: this Padres uni…
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    That’s probably the last PCL Padres uni in ’68.
    Billy Cowan tied for most hits in the PCL that year playing in San Diego.

    It was the last uniform they worn in the PCL, 1954-1968
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    ’53 as well, but it was an all white “SD” on the hat.

    According to Baseball Reference, Cowan played for the Padres in ’67 and ’68, but ’68 was the only year that they played at San Diego/Jack Murphy/Qualcomm stadium, and he’s plainly standing by the fight field fence before all of the football seating was added. Thus, the picture has to be 1968.

    Steve’s photos are excellent! The satin jacket under the jersey is absolutely stunning/bizarre in full color!

    Phil’s running late this a.m. so he doesn’t have time to fix this, so we’ll do it here. Reference to Senators 59-60 should be 61-62.
    This…
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    …is a spring training shot, showing the expansion Senators wearing gear the new Twins left behind for them to use (the hat is new, the jersey old).
    This…
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    …is what they wore when the season started (Cool to see Bennie Daniels; I went to second Twins home game ever, and he started for the Senators).

    Great catch. The expansion Senators ditched the script in favor of this tuscan-style home jersey in ’61, right? Seen here:

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    Did the 1960 Senators have a white outline on their caps? I have the vague impression that the Senators I left DC with a red W, no outline, and the Senators II added the outline.

    Yes to both.

    Of the four expansion teams in ’61 and ’62, three of them used Tuscan (Senators home, Mets road, Angels home & road).

    White outline on hat came with the expansion Senators.

    Also, Griffith Senators had the script Senators and the pitching Senator shoulder patch only for the final two seasons in D.C. Or maybe last three. But wasn’t for long, anyway. Before that was the white drop shadow “W” at home.

    Thanks – teenchy below too! Thought so. What that means, then, is that the Senators II were using leftover Senators I uniforms in spring 1961, but already had their own caps in hand.

    Doubt there’s any significance to it. But it does seem to point to the idea that the cap is really the core of a baseball team’s identity and sense of self.

    Also because MLB was scared shitless that if they took baseball out of Washington Congress would decide to take another look at the game’s anti-trust exemption.

    They didn’t want the Senators to disappear even for a heartbeat. Always figured leaving the name and, by extension, the gear behind was a condition of Griffith getting the votes to move his team.

    Sort of early version of the Browns Anomaly.

    And how quickly times change. By 1971, baseball must not have been afraid of Congress. Or maybe by then they realized the exemption is mostly a creation of the judicial branch, not Congress, and finally realized that they didn’t have to toady to any mere legislator.

    By the end of the 1970s, MLB had realized that it was more valuable to be able to threaten other cities with relocation to Washington in order to extort public subsidies than to have a team in Washington. By the 1990s, MLB went so far as to put an expansion team in Tampa-St. Pete, where it was all but guaranteed to be a financial failure, rather than put one in DC and lose Washington as a relocation threat. The Expos were only allowed to move after (A) courts prevented MLB from disbanding teams and (B) pretty much every team that wanted a new post-1970s ballpark had one.

    Washington without baseball no longer had extortion value for other teams, and almost instantly baseball was allowed back in DC. An amazing coincidence!

    Yup.

    Also, Curt Flood had initiated his legal action in 1969 so, yes, MLB was full-on into being “re-examined” by the time the expansion Senators left town.

    Supposedly, senators like Symington and Scoop Jackson making noises about anti-trust hearings had a lot to do with baseball finding its way back into Kansas City and Seattle. (If only Quebec had U.S. senators…)

    You’re correct. ’60 Senators (Nats v1.0) wore solid red block “W”s on their caps. ’61 Senators (Nats v2.0) introduced the white outline to the red block “W” and wore those for ’61-62.

    I figured you two would be right on these! ;-)

    Yes, Ricko, script “Senators” and shoulder patch were ’59-60 only. The 3D block “W” on left chest was used ’56-58. The numbers on back were 3D block as well, as can be seen link – another reason the Okkonen database needs to be update to show the backs of unis as well.

    I frickin’ LOVED that Senators uni with the 3D letter and numbers.
    Good look at it used by Hollywood…
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    3D numbers need to make a comeback. NOBs would look ridiculous like this, but with a number-only jerseyit would be awesome.

    As can be seen here:

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    and here:

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    The blue curly W Senators cap had a white outline, not a drop shadow. The illusion of a drop shadow in this picture:

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    Results either from the oblique angle of the photo, or from the red stitching having a more thickness to it than the white. From other photos I’ve seen, including some memorabilia auction sites, I suspect the former. But if the latter, we could be looking at an early example of MLB’s move toward puffy cap embroidery.

    I think that with the older technology the outline color was stitched first, entirely covering the the area, then the inner color stitched over it. That gave it a “raised up” look.

    Was common to all such two-color logo hats of the time (Cardinals, Indians, Angels, Red Sox, etc.).

    Maybe more obvious on the curly W because it was a bit wider that most hat letter. Just has a larger mass.

    Fascinating. In the late 1980s, the couple of times I got to see Twins players’ caps up close, the red M and white outline were clearly separate bits of stitching, with the white abutting the red. That is, the red didn’t sit atop the white. Very flat stitching. Which made it all the more visually shocking to me when MLB introduced the current foam-core embroidery, and suddenly video and photos would only ever show the near half of the outline on Twins caps because the M was raised so high.

    That’s true about Twins.
    I was talking about outlines…but I suspect you figured that out.

    Right. I meant to suggest that perhaps the embroidery techniques for MLB caps evolved. By the 1980s, there was probably either computer-aided embroidery, or at least more sophisticated analog mechanization, so outlines could reliably be set down next to the inner shape without leaving gaps between, say, a red M and a white outline.

    Whereas it would make sense to me that in earlier eras, to get a consistent outline, you’d start by putting down a larger white area, then stitching the red letter on top. Much more forgiving method for work done by hand, I assume.

    Ed Ott with his shoes taped…
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    Did the same when he was with the Angels.
    There was an brief time in late ’70s when taping cleats a la football was in vogue. Stargell did it. Parker did it. Jay Johnstone did it. Others, too. Even, for a game here and there, so did Joe Rudi, Ken Landreaux, Frank Taveras and Reggie Jackson…
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    I think those are “Brooks” cleats. For awhile in the late 70s..Brooks took OVER. Nike? Forget it. Brooks was everywhere, all at once.

    PS: Nice ‘No profanity’ sign in the Bucs dugout. Riiight.

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    I -do not- like the backward swoosh. When they first did NFL, I thought they should look like they do now. Wrong.

    Money quote:
    A football jersey is not a shoe, and the manufacturer’s tag is supposed to be subordinate to the uniform design. Unless you’re Nike.

    And man, are these or are these not the best sleeves in baseball history?

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    The current generation Braves uni – well, before they f’ed with the road cap and all the crappy alts and so forth – is one of the best in baseball history. But they really should find a way to work that sleeve style back into their set.

    I hated that jersey back then, but I love it now.

    Not only are those great sleeves, but Davey J’s jersey…FITS CORRECTLY! So odd to see a baseball jersey that shows some triceps.

    It’s a shame that the updates stopped, but it’s also kismet that they stopped on July 4, 2009. In baseball, it should always be the Fourth of July.

    There’s my fundamental problem with stars & stripes caps. It’s baseball. The national pastime. America’s game. Every team’s regular cap already is patriotic!

    It’s like, how much more patriotic could this be? And the answer is none. None more patriotic.

    Fascinating: Always bet on the west coast team on Monday Night Football:

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    Wonder if this analysis holds true for east-west Super Bowls as well (also played at night), of if the pool of data is just too small there.

    Off the top of my head, Super Bowl XXXVII was:

    1. In San Diego.
    2. Played by a West Coast team, the Raiders.
    3. Beaten by an East Coast team,the Buccaneers.
    4. Game started at 3:17 pm PST.

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers – 48
    Oakland Raiders – 21

    Off the top of my head:

    Super Bowl XXXVII was:

    1. Played in San Diego.
    2. Game time started at 3:17 pm PST.
    3. Played by an West Coast team, the Raiders.
    4. Involved an East Coast team, the Buccaneers. (West Coast of Florida.)

    Tampa Bay – 48
    Oakland – 21

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    Sea pitcher threw a perfect game against an east coast team yesterday. wonder if sleep was a factor there?

    KSU charges schools and organizations $500 annually for use of their “Power Cat” logo. Of course, that assumes that the organization does the right thing. If not, I’m sure the CLC will send Eagan High a “cease & desist” letter.

    It’s not $500, but $1 every other year. K-State also stipulates schools that use the Powercat on T-shirts or apparel for sale it must use one of the university’s 400 licensed vendors, who pay Kansas State a 10 percent royalty for the orders.

    There’s also one additional restriction: While schools are free to use whatever colors they want with the logo – even an exact replica of K-State’s purple and silver – red and blue, KU’s colors, cannot be used.

    I’m from Oklahoma. I hate the Texas Rangers. The only baseball hat I own is an Expos hat. I love that design.

    Heard on the radio that MLB commissioner is okay with entire team wearing #6 for a game in Pesky’s honor. Red Sox president said that Sox just have to get formal approval.

    Somehow they won’t, and the media will find a way to blame Bobby Valentine and/or Adrian Gonzalez for it.

    On the Cardinals and Royals pennants…

    The Cardinals pennant has a little black MLB logo at the top. The Royals doesn’t. I presume because the Royal logo takes up more space there. But I don’t see a little black MLB logo anywhere else.

    I grew up in STL and now live in KC. 1985 is always heavily debated here in KC because Cards fans will always remember how we got ripped off by a blown call in the ninth inning of Game 6. Royals fans remember it as their only World Series championship

    This blown call is consider by many to be the worst blown call in the history of MLB. Listed as number 1 in the below link.

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    I always find this funny. KC fans will hold on to 1985 because since then the fanchise has fallen apart and has been one of the worst franchises in all sports, while the Cardinals have gone on to play in multiple World Series and win two.

    Ok, so it’s been a while. Yeah, I’m still around, just been….well….ya know….

    Anyways, It’s funny how Cards fans cannot let this go. I’m a huge Cardinals fan myself but absolutely cringe every time this is brought up. To this day one cannot go one week without hearing about Denkinger in St. Louis somewhere. Cards fans never bring up losing game 7 by a score of 11-ZERO and also never remember the passed ball and dropped foul by Darrell Porter in the same inning as the bad call in game 6. It seems to make them happier by bashing KC every way they can but it’s nothing but sour grapes.

    Exactly. Orta would have been the first out of that inning. The Cardinals squandered many, many chances to make that blown call meaningless.

    True champions don’t fall apart when one thing doesn’t go their way.

    (And “St Louis style” pizza is an abomination, too.)

    yeah, I caught that too. How do things like that even happen?….how drunk was the seamstress? I mean even after 4 Martinis I would know a backward 4 from a forward one.

    Or maybe it’s supposed to be a stylized “P” for Paul :/

    Hey guys, I’ve submitted my letter to link, but it hasn’t been posted yet.

    I’m not sure if it’s because you’re only posting 2 or 3 a day and you are backlogged, or that I don’t 100% support this movement.

    So here’s my letter:

    Dear Mr. Silver,

    I am an avid reader of Uni Watch Blog, and am aware of their stance against the possibilities of ads on NBA uniforms. While I am usually in agreement with most of Uni Watch’s opinions/taste, I disagree here…to a point.

    While I’d prefer pro sports uniforms without ads, I understand why leagues/teams would at least look into this. I do however think there should be some sort of regulations and/or limitations. Who the sponsor is, the size, location and quantity of the ads should be subject to approval to some sort of ‘Uniform Police’ (for lack of a better term).

    A good example is European League soccer. Each of those teams have ads, and in most cases, it’s tastefully done.

    Thank you for your time.

    Actually a thoughtful response. If only the NBA would be as thoughtful in implementing uni ads! I hope they listen to you.

    But one quibble. It’s very lazy thinking and writing to speak to the NBA about “Uni Watch … their stance” and “Uni Watch’s opinions/taste.” Do you seriously think anyone in the NBA office cares about UW, or attributes the volume of correspondence they’re receiving to some little blog? Come on, you know better than that. By leading with a UW reference that I’m sure even you know to be an irrelevant distraction, you detract from your own argument, and make it all but certain that nobody in the NBA office will read past your first paragraph to the important points you make in your second and third.

    The place to argue with UniWatch or with Paul is here, in the comments, or in a letter to Paul. Not in a letter to some third party who doesn’t know or care what you’re talking about. If you have a point to make to Mr. Silver – and you do, and it’s an important one! – then that’s what you need to focus on when you write Mr. Silver.

    Also, as a general rule, never start an argument by naming the other argument you disagree with. Jump right in and state your case. If it’s appropriate to engage with other arguments, do so after first establishing your own ground.

    Define tasteful.

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    It could become a slippery slope. If you can get a little extra revenue from a sponsorship, why not two, or three?

    Perhaps we should just start sending the NBA images like that and asking them to identify what team it belongs to.

    Maybe they’d understand that diluting their brand identity is a bad thing. The more ads you have on the jersey, the harder it is to identify the team.

    ““Ever see this before…pretty cool early technology” writes Alan Tompas, referring to this very early helmet-cam”

    stevesie approves:

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    Are there any other cases in MLB history of special coaches caps other than the A’s and Indians referenced in today’s entry?

    You’d think MLB and New Era would pounce on this as yet another way to bleed $30+ out of fans!

    Also, is Central Michigan commonly referred to as CMU? I have to say, the yinzer in me saw that ticker item and thought Carnegie Mellon got new football unis!

    “Are there any other cases in MLB history of special coaches caps other than the A’s and Indians referenced in today’s entry?”

    None come to mind quickly, so I’d say I don’t think so.

    Unless we count Connie Mack’s straw skimmer.

    Buck Showalter usually wears a different hat than what the O’s are wearing on the field, the “O’s” cap when they’re in the panels and vice versa.

    Not a specific coach cap, per se, but different from what the players have.

    I could have swore the Red Sox coaches wore different caps in the 70s. Or quite possibly I’m mixing that up with the fact that the entire team switched to red caps with navy bills around that time.

    I always thought that the Phillies Powder Blues were a darker blue than everyone else’s. I thought it looked good with the burgundy trim, but always wondered if the contrast between the burgundy and the blue just made it seem darker. Also loved the zipper front. These should definitely be brought back as an alt.

    What do they mean by “synthetic laces” on the NFL footballs? Are these the pebble grain like laces
    that Wilson puts on its GST and CFL footballs?

    Wilson has not used leather laces on NFL footballs since the mid 1980s when they replaced it with
    flat synthetic laces which they combined with cloth laces. Since about 1995,Wilson changed the way they laced their footballs by using one long flat synthetic lace instead of a shorter synthetic and
    a shorter cloth lace.

    That picture of Cal Ripken Jr. is from just after Ripken Baseball group acquired the Charlotte Stone Crabs(Single A affiliate for the Rays)

    Phil, Phil, Phil. There’s only one Cub logo that makes sense. If I were a Cubbies fan, I’d lobby incessantly for this one: link

    Yes. That shoulder patch is one of the greatest images in the history of mlb. Bring it back.

    What a great time to be a kid, baseball fan and most importantly, a uniform geek. God love the graphics of the ’60’s and ’70’s.

    No, that shoulder patch is 100% “It was there when I grew up and its old and it’s great.”

    Absolutely the opposite. If that shoulder patch was introduced today it would be insulted to no end. So many times on this website its “old and it’s awesome” or it’s “new and it’s crappy”. That logo is old and crappy.

    Tom V., I respect that you dislike that Cubbie head. And, you’re right, a lot of older designs appeal to me vs. newer stuff. Maybe nostalgia plays into that, I can’t deny it.

    However, I do appeciate strong design–ancient, the recent past, or today. And in my eyes this image…

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    …looks as good today as it did back in Ron Santo’s playing days.

    Clean, striking and playful. Perfect for a team from Chicago. Perfect for a team named the Cubs, the Cubbies.

    I’m a fan of the “walking Cub” logo……..

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    I’m also in the camp that thinks the primary logo needs an overhaul – the blue is just too much…..Honestly, it looks cheap or something – I can’t put my finger on it.

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    Don’t get me started on the TM, either…..

    I *love* the walking bear logo. It looks a little more powerful than the cartoony ’70s bear (and the bear-holding-a-bat that they used from the early 1900s on and off until the ’30s), and it’s a little more bear-like than the glowering ’80s face. I think there was another bear face in the mid-’90s that looked a lot like the ’80s one.

    With the current one they’ve really got things right. I say keep it for a long time.

    Phil,
    Hope you can find out what happened to Steve. I have enjoyed his site for many years….color photos (mostly) from the “golden era.” Thanks for reintroducing Steve’s site to new fans.

    re: Braves all-navy hats.
    This was, indeed, the road look from ’68-’71.
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    With the home pins, however, they wore the red visor hat in ’68 and ’69..
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    1969 patch on sleeve in small photo…
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    Paul Powell’s photo is reversed. Note the backward “TC” logo on the cap. He is on the same page as the pitcher with the huge glove.

    Don’t know what the need for all the duplicate numbers in Illinois football is for. There are 106 players in the picture, so at most, 7 numbers need to be duplicated. I’m sure there’s a reason some numbers are left out, but 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 17, and 18 are all duplicated. That’s 14 of 19 numbers. 45 players wear 1-29 (29 available numbers). That means 61 players wear 30-99 (69 available numbers). Doesn’t seem like an even number distribution to me.

    I’d guess that the NFL’s numbering system plays a part here. Even though the NCAA doesn’t actually have number rules, I’m sure that plenty of players are going to want to mimic their professional counterparts. For example, if you’re a running back, you’ll probably want to wear something between 20 and 49, even if there isn’t any rule to prevent you from wearing a number like 74 or 93. Combine that with the fact that there’s a good number of players who won’t actually see action this year for various reasons, and the number of duplicates isn’t that surprising.

    The NCAA still has numbering rules. 50-79 are “ineligible” numbers and you must have 5 such numbers on the line of scrimmage.

    So a running back probably shouldn’t wear 74.

    Heh… I didn’t know that, but I’d love to see the NFL adapt that rule… nonetheless, I think my point is still mostly valid. Why put a 5th string RB in 81 just to shift him back to 21 when the current Juniors/Seniors graduate/get drafted?

    It seems to me that most skill position players in college want to wear the lowest possible number (just my observation, there’s a lot of RBs and WRs that wear single digit numbers), I think that may be why the lower quarter of numbers is heavily duplicated.

    That was more my thought. Seemed like there were plenty of numbers in the 30s available to spread out that glut in the aughts and 10s and 20s.

    A lot of student-athletes (HA!) want a specific number before they will sign with a school.

    And it appears that they get it.

    Carmelo Anthony is NOT changing his number to 15 because it’s retired TWICE by the Knicks. DUUUHUHUHUHUH.

    While I am no longer going to root for the Knicks and seemingly shouldn’t care, I will always be a fan of the old Knicks and if he takes 15, I will be further outraged. You can’t have a ceremony, retire numbers, celebrate how great the players were and how great a franchise you are to recognize them and then unretire the number.

    Retired numbers shouldn’t exist. Have a ceremony, hang the player’s jersey up in the rafters – that’s fine – but don’t ban anyone else from ever wearing the number again. There’s only so many numbers available. What’s so horrible about having multiple great players who all shared the same number? As we move forward in time, it’s easier to forget the greats of the past, especially if their numbers aren’t used. What starts as “(insert number) will always be Player X” eventually devolves into “why doesn’t anyone wear (insert number)”?

    Your opinion is interesting…certainly some teams have gone overboard retiring numbers. The concept was started with Lou Gehrig who died tragically…I can see retiring that. I can also see retiring the players who put your franchise on the map for the first time…but retired numbers do exist and not retiring Player X when Player Y was retired might be taken as a slight. I don’t see unretiring numbers though…what if Anthony wears 15 and is a selfish player who destroys team chemistry and never wins here? Now you have created a total mess.

    What about the other side of the argument? What if you put a guy in your stadium’s “Ring of Honor”, and a couple of decades later, he stabs to death his wife and an innocent bystander? What if you retire the number of a popular first baseman and three years later he’s widely thought to have taken steroids? What if you immortalize a beloved coach with an on-campus statue, and he is shortly thereafter the central figure in the biggest scandal in the college sports history?

    And The Jeff make a great point: growing up in Buffalo, everybody wanted to wear #11 — it was Gil Perrault’s number (and Bob McAdoo’s, too). Had the number not been retired, every guy who ever wore that number for the Sabres would feel like he was part of the club’s history, that he had a tradition to uphold.
    Brazil’s international soccer team has established that sort of tradition with the #10 shirt.

    I’m totally with The Jeff. If anything, the best way to memorialize past greats is to make their numbers “mandatory numbers” and make sure someone on the rositer is always wearing them so that we can think back to the legend who once wore it, with an unbroken string of players.

    I agree with Mark totally. What a better way to honor someone’s playing history than to keep that jersey number active and “bestow” the honor of wearing that number to someone.

    Why the hell would they need to cut them off instead of just asking him to remove them?

    Regardless, it seems a bit silly to bother with something like that while allowing the pajama pants & baggy jerseys.

    It’s not a fashion thing. Or a uniform-wearing thing.

    Right or wrong, it goes to the rules about pitchers not wearing something that could distract the hitter. And, yes, some of it is dumb (that would be a different discussion).

    No one notices that pitches never wear wristbands or a batting glove inside their glove? Same reason.

    Surprisingly, it even applies to softball.
    At the right time, you can really piss off a softball pitcher by having the ump ask him to remove a wristband or a batting glove. :)

    “it goes to the rules about pitchers not wearing something that could distract the hitter.”

    Well, and also anything that could be used to aid in doctoring the ball.

    I think I’ll just say that “stupid rules are stupid” and leave it at that for today.

    /I mean, if you can seriously claim that a wristband or a bracelet on a pitcher is distracting, but the fact that he can throw a white ball while wearing a white uniform isn’t… I just don’t have words.

    Wasn’t supporting anything.
    Just explaining that it isn’t about aesthetics.

    And sometimes rules are stringent, yes. If for no other reason than compiling and then having to drag out the Official Big Book of Exceptions would be a huge pain in the ass.

    I don’t remember the year, but in a post-season game, the umpires considered forcing Ron Guidry to remove an undershirt, because there was a big hole in the sleeve of his pitching arm, and the opposing manager argued that the flash of skin was distracting his batters. I remember Billy Martin going apoplectic over it.

    You could argue that a pitcher wearing a bunch of bracelets would have a distracting effect on batters.

    You could also argue that some guy in the centerfield bleachers with a clever sign is distracting to the batter. If you’re playing Major League Baseball and you’re “distracted” by the pitcher wearing a freakin bracelet, you should be cut. You’re making how much money to play a game? Pay attention, dumbass.

    The Jeff, these are not ragamuffs, scraping along in some sandlot. These are Sensitive Artistes, who require the proper environment to practice their craft.

    How can a finely tuned athlete like Prince Fielder, or Carlos Lee be expected to properly time his swing, if the guy throwing the ball has some dangly bits of string tied to his wrist? It’s unjust, I tell you.

    On looking for a no “angle” for the #nouniads campaign, I have an idea but not the technical skill to make it happen. What if we could show how stupid and inappropriate uni ads would look on other uniforms that are related to a national or city entity. Like guys in Army fatigues with Haliburton logos over the front, or firemen with ads on their helmets, or Miss America contestants with Maybeline ads on their dresses or the President at a podium with both the Presidential logo and a Pepsi logo.

    Obviously those things are all of varying significance, but they are all examples of individuals representing a group of people, and they are all examples where ads would seem misplaced.

    All that said, if the NBA owners would approve the mess that is WNBA jersey policy, don’t know if we really can appeal to their sense of taste or tact.

    Thanks for reminding us of Steve’s killer website, had it bookmarked but forgot it amidst the hundreds of similar cool bookmarks!

    I get misty-eyed looking at those old unis; each one just looks so right, so appropriate, brings back so many memories of baseball cards and Baseball Digest and all the other baseball accoutrements of an endless summer.

    This Orioles one however looks so jarring, so incongruent to have a serious bird on the cap and a rather large cartoon bird on the sleeve:
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    -Jet

    Pierre Allen, Sr. graduated from Nebraska after the 2010 season so he is not a current player.

    But one interesting side note regarding the first initial: during his NU playing career (2006 – 2010) there was not another “Allen” on the NU roster, so I’m not sure why he got the first initial treatment.

    Surprised you don’t like the non-angry Cubbie. They need to put the sanguine bear back on their shoulders right away.

    Regarding the Jeff Ash linked article on the Expos cap, is it foolish to think that major league baseball could ever return to Montreal and be successful (whatever that means these days)?

    Seems incredibly unlikely. However, I think that AAA ball can and eventually will return there, once feelings have had longer to cool.

    Great twitpics from the Texas A&M Equipment page. Includes White, Maroon, flat maroon, and even a pink helmet. Also some neat practice uni pics.

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    Michigan State Athletic Director Mark Hollis has organized a 16 Nike-sponsored Team tournament in 2017 in honor of Phil Knight’s 80th Birthday.

    Some big programs are scheduled to compete. I am sure we will see some interesting uniforms for the occasion

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    With the Summer Olympics over, my thoughts turn to the next winter games in Sochi, Russia in 2014. I wonder if, in the Opening Ceremonies, the host country will pay tribute to the Trololo guy.

    Who is Steve? I didn’t see an “about” page. Was he a Topps photographer? Did he personally take all those photos?

    Love the old photos too. Seems like the majority of batting shots are sans batting glove(s). Awesome.

    The Macy’s item is appalling…and innacurate. According to a couple of sources I found, the Nazi’s switched to the flag of Prussia/the Empire….Black/white/red horizontal stripes, shortly after taking power in 1933, prior to adopting the swastika in 1935. Conservatives (inluding Hindenburg) skewered the Republican Flag (calling it the piss flag, or black red and chicken-shit) and rallied around its removal. It symoblically marked the end of the Republic. So the item is doubly stupid: insulting/appling, and innacurate.

    What is great about Steve’s photos is the brilliance of colors. As kids we thought the 70’s uni’s were great at the time because of the bright colors. Based on poor baseball card reproductions (and inferior color TV), the Twins, for example, looked like dark grey trimmed in dull red. When you see how those flannels really looked, with the Navy on red, it pops. It is fun to trace the flannels/haircuts/stadia (and artifical turf vs. grass), and how quickly they changed within, say, 5 years. The evolution of double-kints (the striping, etc.), how some were just new versions of the flannels, how some started with buttons, then went to pullovers, etc. is also interesting.

    Love the character of the 70s baseball uniforms. They had such identity and pizzazz. You can tell, with only a few exceptions, that today’s teams yearn to do something “out there” like they did in the 70s. But many just don’t have the guts to pull the trigger and stand out in the crowd. Instead, they do Softball Sundays alternates.

    Love the Padres, love the Braves, love the Pirates, love the Cleveland C and the mono-reds, love the Astros … all just remarkably full of energy and character. This is simply NOT the case today.

    Miami is certainly the exception. Hopefully Houston will follow suit and return to their forward-thinking ways next year.

    From yesterday’s StarTribune…

    “The Vikings have only one game outdoors between now and November—a Week 6 game at Washington. During the regular season, 12 of the team’s 16 games will be played indoors.”

    Hmmm. I might have to go ahead and order NFL Sunday Ticket after all.

    I left the state before the Vikings claimed the indoors as their home so my memories of the team are locked in the frozen confines of the old Met, where ice and snow and mud were factors which played into the teams success. Fans came.

    I just can’t wrap my head around indoor football.

    Only time I’ll ever agree with a Vikings fan. Give me The Frozen Tundra over the best indoor stadium any day of the week, especially Sunday ;)

    The pictures of the ND Ireland uniforms give me hope. The pants look like they might actually be closer to old gold than the vegas gold (tan in non-marketing speak). ND and Pitt might as well wear white pants if they’re going to keep rolling those out.

    These aren’t the uniforms to be worn in Ireland (Navy is the home team for that game, and Notre Dame will presumably wear white). They are the uniforms for ND’s off-site home game; this year it will be in Chicago against Miami.

    Is it too late for Notre Dame to borrow a set of Baylor’s uniform’s for the Chicago game?

    Well, those ND uniforms for the game in Chicago are…different.

    The helmet will get the most discussion.

    More from the girls in the design departments at the major uni suppliers.

    Seriously, could we get ONE of these unis that doesn’t look like it was designed by someone who needs to find another gas station because the restrooms in this one are “icky”?

    They suck. Most of ’em do.

    And I’m sorry, but they look something the sixth grade girls would have dreamed up when I was a kid. Granted, times were different then, but it’s a reaction that’s tough to shake.

    Okay, okay…so as not to offend anyone I’ll update the observation to 2012: Most of them look to be designed either by someone who has never seen a football game…or has decided every football game ever played looked bad and, by god, they’re gonna show us what unis SHOULD look like.

    That makes them either ignorant or presumptuous.
    Or both.

    Not qualities that should be particularly welcome in a professional designer.

    Wow, talk about shitty, Ricko…..backtrack all you want, but it doesn’t take away that your first inclination was to rip on women, not once, but twice, in one post.

    You’re right. My brain replays old tapes sometimes. Goes back to an era when girls all took Home Ec and learned how to sit properly with their hands folded in the laps. And, because of that, they either cared little about, or weren’t allowed to care about, sports. As such, if you’d asked 1950’s Home Ec classes to design football unis, most results likely would have been…odd. And that, whether anyone wants to accept it or not, was the reality of times.

    So I apologize for not applying a “time-filter adjustment” before I typed.

    But, still, most of these TATC unis (and that’s what they really are, btw; someone’s “vision”) look like they were designed out of ignorance or arrogance.

    So let me put it these way…
    We need more uniform designers and fewer uniform fashionistas (and that’s ONLY a reference to attitude, nothing else).

    It’s like Adidas started with an already complete Nike Pro Combat uniform design, identified all the bits that could be considered charming or classy, and removed them.

    And setting aside gender politics – this work screams males of a very particular age cohort, college background, and videogaming preference, actually – I echo Ricko’s WTF at the staging of the photos. What is a Notre Dame football player doing standing around in an abandoned gas station at night? Got lost on the way to the game, decided to go terrorize some hobos instead? Why are these special unis never photographed on a football field, with the model doing football things?

    Whole thing makes the model in the uniform look like one of those jump-up targets they train cops with, only this is one of the ones you’re supposed to shoot at.

    From Twitter and Tim Siedell (‏@badbanana)
    I kindly ask the college football uniform design team at adidas to go have rigorous relations with itself.

    if that is what recruits want you can kick me in the nuts. there is no way in hell anybody can look at that notre dame uni and say “that’s fucking cool”, i don’t care how young and dumb you are. and if you can, i’m sorry, you’re daft. just because the technology exists does not mean you use it. shit, we can drop the damn bomb on anybody we want, but do we?! no, because it’s a bad idea.

    i’m not against everything new, but for corn’s sake, this is just crap. is it so horrible to expect teams to once in a while play as themselves? it seems to me anytime there is even remotely anything special about a game, the corpos ruin it. fuck all this shit man, they are killing uni watching, and i have nearly had enough.

    “For corn’s sake” is now my favorite phrase…..It may be my nom de plume…..

    …i am ashamed to take it in vain

    …the irish uni is rancid beyond belief. you can make an argument for say the O rose bowl helmet being “cool” last year. now i don’t go for the super hero crap, but i can see how someone could like that. but this is just stupid, and if you like it, you are daft. this is such a case of black and white.

    and as an aside, i showed it to pineapple, and her take was essentially paul’s. “Make all of the elements part-gold and part-navy — otherwise your imbalance is out of balance! ” but with a couple more scathing comments about the font, etc.

    The truly unfortunate thing about it is how great the jersey is. I mean, it’s near perfect with the reflective numbers matching the reflective (part of the) helmet.

    …no kidding, right? it really does make it tough.

    …um, tim, the jersey is just a bad version of their current jersey, which was just fine. the numbers matching the helmet is not what is lost in this set, i think it may be your mind.

    When Shane Victorino got traded to the Dodgers, it was reported that skipper Don Mattingly would vacate #8 in favor of #12.
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    Apparently, it was easier to change his #8 on his shower sandals to #88 instead.

    They DFAed Bobby Abreu who was wearing the 23 that Donnie Baseball was famous for wearing at his previous team. Surprised he didn’t take it. Oh well, it leaves a couple of lower numbers open for the players.

    The Football Giants road white/red jerseys have the red Nike check… debuted last weekend in Jacksonville.

    I’m imagining a meeting at ND….Know what we need to do to help turn this crapwagon around? We need to rip off what they’re doing over at Maryland!

    I learned something today: what I thought of as an ‘Old English’ variant is actually called Tuscan. And there’s an MLB Tuscan font, which I downloaded.

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