What's Wrong with This Picture?

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What you see above is the scrum on the mound a few moments after Johan Santana put the finishing touches on Friday night’s no-hitter. I assume you’ve all spotted the rogue element: Who’s that guy in the pinstriped Gary Carter jersey?

Turns out it was a fan named Rafael Diaz, who ran onto the field and joined the celebration. You can see his route to the mound in these screen shots:





Diaz managed to join the celebration for a few seconds before a pair of maroon-jacketed security staffers separated him from the players and wrestled him to the ground:

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You can see the video from which I took those screen shots here. As for Diaz, he spent two nights in the clink and missed his son’s first birthday party.

All of which raises an interesting question: When did teams start cracking down on fans storming the field for celebrations? To put this in some historical perspective, a few obvious benchmarks come to mind:

• When Bill Mazeroski hit his World Series-winning homer in 1960, there were loads of fans on the field well before he made it to home plate.

• When the Mets won the 1969 World Series, so many fans spilled out on the field that the sod was torn up, which turned out to be a major pain for the Jets for the rest of that season.

• Four years later, in 1973, fans again poured out onto the Shea Stadium diamond when the Mets won the fifth and deciding game of the 1973 NLCS against the Reds.

• Six months after that, on April 8, 1974, Hank Aaron hit his 715th home run and was joined by two fans during his home run trot.

•  Two and a half years after that, in October of 1976, Chris Chambliss hit a walk-off homer to win the ALCS for the Yankees and was mobbed by fans as he circled the bases.

All those scenarios are unthinkable today. For that matter, it’s pretty astonishing that Diaz managed to get onto the field on Friday night. When did teams start getting serious about security? I’m not sure, although I remember reading an interview with Tug McGraw in which he recalled being on the mound to close out the 1980 World Series and said there were horse-mounted police ringing the field. So apparently things were getting a bit less fan-friendly at that point (at least in Philly). If anyone knows more, fill us in.

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In case you missed it yesterday, Phil had tremendous coverage of Saturday’s Giants/Cubs throwback game. Check it out here.

In addition, photographer and Uni Watch fan Brad Mangin was working that game and took nearly 200 killer photos. Enjoy them here — they’re a feast for the eyes.

One other note regarding that game: “Giants radio broadcasters Duane Kiper and Dave Flemming mentioned the Giants had planned on having Bochy wear a suit to manage the game and he agreed to go along with it,” says reader MIchael Haug. “But then someone did some research and found the manager back then actually wore a uniform.” The manager in question, of course, was John McGraw, who sometimes managed in street clothes but often wore a uniform — including, I guess, in 1912. Too bad, since it would’ve been cool to have Bochy skippering in a suit.

Of course, even if Bochy had worn a suit, one element on the field still would have stuck out: the umpires. When will we have a throwback game with period-appropriate ump attire?

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Flap Jacks: I feel like I’ve lost track of who is and isn’t going double-flapped in MLB at the moment. There are these guys (but not Willie Harris, who was demoted to the minors by the Reds a few weeks ago) — and who else? Anyone?

While we’re at it: Who’s currently batting bare-handed besides these guys? And does anyone wear one glove other than Hunter Pence? And who’s still wearing their pockets inside-out besides Jose Reyes, Hanley Ramirez, and AJ Pierzynski?

Thanks in advance for your help, which will be put to good use in an ESPN piece I’m working on.

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Uni Watch News Ticker: Total Wilponian clusterfuck last night at Shea. John Franco was being inducted into the Mets Hall of Fame, so the team decided to “honor” him by wearing the black jerseys for the first time this season (even though we’d previously been told they wouldn’t be worn at home this year). Now, all the other jerseys the Mets are wearing this year have the team’s 50th-anniversary patch on the left sleeve and the Gary Carter memorial patch on the right. But the black jerseys have the team’s skyline logo patch on the left sleeve (completely unnecessary) and the anniversary patch on the right, so they decided to move the Carter memorial to the upper-right chest area. Embarrassing. ”¦ Speaking of that Mets/Cards game, here’s something unusual: Both starting centerfielders — Andres Torres and Adron Chambers — wore No. 56. ”¦ New color scheme apparently in the works for the Bobcats. ”¦ Speaking of color schemes, a jpeg of a black Maryland football field has been circulating for about two weeks now. I’ve been ignoring it, since it’s obviously just some kid’s concept image. But now comes word that it might be legit — or it might not (read the update at the bottom of that page). Personally, I don’t buy it, but ya never know. … New red helmet apparently on tap for Arizona football. ”¦ “At last week’s U.S./Brazil friendly, they followed the custom of having kids walk out with the players,” says Austin Chen. “But instead of having the kids wear the uniforms of the two teams, they had them wear McDonald’s jerseys, completely ruining the entire gesture.” … Michael Frick has made some Steelers and Panthers Cubees. … “I know the Red Wings are ‘presented by Amway,’ but geez — check out this mic cover,” says Jason Heminger. … Very nice historical gallery of Seattle baseball uniforms here (from Steve Ramsey). … Check this out: The San Jose Giants are wearing an “SJ” logo on their striped socks. Seems a bit like overkill, plus it looks like a dollar sign (from C. Trent Rosecrans). … This is weird: a set of baseball cap-themed playing cards, from New Era (from Kenny Loo). … Chris Wautel notes that Shane Victorino has “Kalo Kingston” stitched onto his glove — apparently a reference to the Soul Caliber IV video game. … The current issue of Slam shows Anthony Davis in a Hornets jersey, even though he hasn’t been drafted yet (from Jeff Downe). … Latest MLB team to join the bat knob decal bandwagon: the Giants. … Matthew Algeo found a 1907 Cincinnati Enquirer article about baseball equipment up to that point in time. Great quote: “Up to 1877, all the catchers thought of for protection was a hunk of rubber to hold between the teeth.” Also, there’s a mention of Fred Parent, a Boston Americans (later Red Sox) shortstop who had recently started wearing a crude batting helmet, described as a “pad … about three inches thick and plastered on the side of the head from the shoulder to the top of the head.” According to the article’s author, “[T]he whole thing makes it plain that Parent has grown cowardly.” … A Coca-Cola blog recently ran a series of entries about old Coke delivery uniforms. Click the links at the top of the page to see the whole series. Awesome stuff (big thanks, Kirsten). … Turns out there’s been an Orioles jersey with JrOB — but it wasn’t worn by Cal Ripken Jr. (fun find by Joe Hilseberg). … New home kit for Liverpool. … New logo set for North Dakota State. “That page also includes a link to an interesting 17-page graphic standards manual,” notes proud NDSU alum Andrew Wrucke. ”¦ The Japanese Olympic swimming team is using a banned swimsuit design for training, but not for races (from Jeremy Brahm). ”¦ Also from Jeremy: Here are Jamaica’s Olympic track uniforms. ”¦ Ted Bloss made himself an Art Monk Cubee. ”¦ “I was watching the crew work on A.J. Viso’s car after qualifying for the Belle Isle Grand Prix on Saturday afternoon and did a double-take when I saw ‘Detroit’ misspelled on both sides of the wing,” says Scott Held. “About 30 minutes later, a crewman was applying a new MGM Grand decal, but with the ‘O’ and ‘I’ cut out, presumably to rearrange them. I’m assuming this was a one-race sponsorship, so perhaps their printer sent them a stack of labels with the misspelled word.” ”¦ While looking for something else, I came across this shot of former A’s catcher Adam Melhuse wearing an odd cap. The photo is from May 15, 2005, so I assume the “15” on the cap relates to the date somehow. Anyone know more? ”¦ ” My dad played in the Astros’ organization from 1970-1973,” says Brett Crane. “At some point along the way — he doesn’t recall exactly when — he was issued this 1965 shooting star jersey.” Man, look at that chain-stitching! ”¦ Baylor’s baseball team is outfitted by Under Armour, which may explain why Jake Miller was wearing Nike cleats with the swooshes blacked out the other day (good spot by Drew Mastin). ”¦ Mets catcher Josh Thole, who returned from a lengthy concussion-induced DL stint just in time to catch Johan Santana’s no-hitter on Friday, has switched to the hockey-style mask. ”¦ While looking for something else, I came upon a shot of Jose Cruz in an Alaska Goldpanners uni. I’ve seen lots of famous players in Goldpanners garb before, but not Cruz. ”¦ Good story about how the Twins have been wearing their old “M” cap over the past week (from David Teigland). ”¦ Here’s something I don’t recall having noticed before: Last Sept. 11, hosiery hero Josh Outman, who was then with the A’s, wore little American flag patches on his stirrups. That seems like, um, a bit much. ”¦ Teamo Bigg was doing some thrift-shopping in Clinton, Maryland, and spotted a football helmet with an NFL Players Association logo and another with a patch instead of a decal.

291 comments to What’s Wrong with This Picture?

  • Jason | June 4, 2012 at 7:22 am |

    I was going to say an asterisk…

    • X | June 4, 2012 at 11:06 am |

      Keep it classy, St. Louis fans. Overrated fans, overrated town.

      • Caleb | June 4, 2012 at 12:39 pm |

        Whoa,whoa, whoa. The Post-Dispatch put the asterisk on it, not the fans.

      • rdb | June 5, 2012 at 12:10 am |

        You take the internet a little too seriously.

  • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 7:35 am |

    MEMO TO: Rafael Diaz

    You ain’t part of the team. You’ve never been part of the team. You never will be part of the team.

    Get a grip.

    • Phil Hecken | June 4, 2012 at 8:02 am |

      oh, c’mon rick…you remember rushing the field after the last cubs world series win wearing a THREE FINGERS waistcoat and top hat

      let the kids live a little

    • Graf Zeppelin | June 4, 2012 at 10:34 am |

      I have to agree, Ricko. My thought at the time was that he was arrogantly and improperly injecting himself into a celebration and a moment in history that belonged to the team. This was their moment, not his.

      Maybe I’d have felt differently if there was a whole mob of fans there, and not just this one guy.

    • JenInChicago | June 4, 2012 at 11:20 am |

      My thoughts exactly, Rick.

  • Connie | June 4, 2012 at 7:40 am |

    The employment of children as walking billboards for the opening ceremonies of international soccer games – the ticker mentions McDonald’s shirts at US vs Brazil – was repeated at Dallas yesterday for Mexico vs Brazil. Yesterday’s vision of peace and innocence was brought to you by Home Depot.

    In a related story, the financially-troubled Arcdiocese of New York has announced a new program to attract corporate sponsors to be featured on the backs of altar boys.

    • Arr Scott | June 4, 2012 at 8:00 am |

      “Employment” is a good word there. The kids were clearly being employed as advertising performers, just as if they were actors in a TV commercial. Which means that labor laws out to apply to this sort of situation. That is, they must be paid, their pay must be subject to the same oversight as any other child actor, and work conditions must meet the standards for employment by minors.

      There’s a world of difference between a company sponsoring a youth-league’s uniforms and using kids as advertising performers.

    • Brent | June 4, 2012 at 9:43 am |

      Cowboys Stadium is not in Dallas.

      • Arr Scott | June 4, 2012 at 10:00 am |

        But it is at Dallas, “at” and “in” being two different words.

        Get back to us when the NFL stops referring to teams that visit the Cowboys as plating “at Dallas” and the grammar courts will reconsider the verdict.

        • timdub70 | June 4, 2012 at 2:00 pm |

          The last time the Super Bowl was played at Cowboys Stadium it was referred to as “North Texas” and not Dallas. The last one at Joe Robbie Stadium or whatever it’s called now was referred to as “South Florida”. But the last Super Bowl was played in downtown Indianapolis, so it was “Indianapois” instead of “Central Indiana”.

      • Brinke | June 4, 2012 at 7:28 pm |

        not since fall of 71 and the Cotton Bowl.

    • 1vox | June 4, 2012 at 2:08 pm |

      i watched usa v brazil, and girlfriend pointed out the mcd’s kids before i saw them…which led to the question, WHY is McDONALD’S sponsoring our national SOCCER club…?

      kids, wanna grow up to be like landon…?

      keep eatin’ them mcnuggets…

  • JAson | June 4, 2012 at 7:40 am |

    KC catcher Brayan Pena is a member of the two-flap family


    • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2012 at 8:04 am |

      Thank you!

  • ajr | June 4, 2012 at 7:42 am |

    Juan Pierre of the Phillies goes with the double flaps. Zach Lutz of the Mets did, but he was only up for a few games.

    Matt Carpenter of the Cardinals bats with no gloves.

    • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2012 at 7:53 am |

      Juan Pierre of the Phillies goes with the double flaps.

      I believe you are mistaken.

  • Gordon | June 4, 2012 at 7:42 am |

    Typo on Gary Cater.

    • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2012 at 7:54 am |

      Thanks. Now fixed.

  • ajr | June 4, 2012 at 7:50 am |

    OK, I could have sworn I saw Juan Pierre using a two-flapped helmet this year against the Mets, but the pictures online are making a liar of me. Retracted.

  • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 7:51 am |

    Best thing about the “M” cap on the road for the Twins?

    No red brim that…
    a) has been a fan cap for about, I dunno, almost 40 years now.
    b) doesn’t look they’re trying oh-so-hard trying to make the road uni “different”.

    • Arr Scott | June 4, 2012 at 10:41 am |

      Ricko, what do you mean about the “fan cap thing? Were there M-logo fan caps prior to 1986?

      If they’re going to wear the M cap on the road, then they desperately need to design a new road script that matches the home script and the cap logo. Well, they need to do that anyway, since it’s a terrible script, but it clashes badly with the M logo. It’s on the edge of a Nats curly-W/block script situation.

      • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 11:11 am |

        I meant the TC hat with the red brim.

  • BurghFan | June 4, 2012 at 7:56 am |

    I hope the real New Era cards have a diamond suit instead of 26 hearts.

    • Simply Moono | June 4, 2012 at 9:04 am |

      My mouth… you took the words right out of them.

    • Ry Co 40 | June 4, 2012 at 9:19 am |

      ohhh… i just can’t wait until new era sells a $40 red hat with a white diamond on it!!!

    • Arr Scott | June 4, 2012 at 9:30 am |

      Strange, since New Era is usually all about BFBS, yet it’s turned the normally black suits blue.

  • Mike W. | June 4, 2012 at 8:00 am |
    • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2012 at 8:05 am |

      Duh — can’t believe I forgot him. He’s been doing it for years.

  • Padday | June 4, 2012 at 8:00 am |

    I was watching it at the time and my first reaction was something along the lines of “oh dear some idiot has got onto the field.” But then I thought about it for a moment, and then I remembered all of those times you mentioned, Bill Mazeroski and Hank Aaron et al. and I thought about how seeing the fans on the field was a nice little reminder that a large part of any team’s vitality and subsequent success is it’s fans. Rafael Diaz was, in effect, the fan representative at the celebrations on the mound.

    What really got me annoyed then was that while this one fan ended up being mercilessly tackled to the ground, the obnoxious cameramen with their heavy equipment and wires and everything else were allowed to barge their way into the scrum. A fan has more right to be in that scrum than a bloody cameraman wearing a Texas sweater.

    • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 8:06 am |

      “A fan has more right to be in that scrum than a bloody cameraman wearing a Texas sweater.”

      No, he doesn’t. A fan has NO right to be on the field…unless given permission.

      If a player goes into the stands, we give him hell.
      It’s a two-way street.

      • Padday | June 4, 2012 at 8:12 am |

        Explain. Why does a fan have no right to be on the field?

        • Phil Hecken | June 4, 2012 at 8:16 am |

          mlb regs, for one:

          “- Fan Interference: Major League Baseball rules require that fans not go onto the field”

        • Mike V. | June 4, 2012 at 8:29 am |

          I’m with Ricko. Fans belong in the stands unless invited on the field. Players belong on the field. I’m sure if you ask any player, they would agree. Hank and Maz didn’t look to excited to have the fans around them. Same with Fisk with his homerun in 1975. He was throwing elbows at the fans that were trying to surround him. Buying a ticket gives you a right to sit in your designated seat…it’s not an all access pass.

          What’s the best way you can earn the right to be on the field? Practice.

        • Mike V. | June 4, 2012 at 8:36 am |

          Also, the guy was not mercilessly tackled. You run on the field, don’t expect to be asked nice first. The cameramen were just doing their jobs. Why are they obnoxious? The fans don’t need a rep on the mound, they have enough reps right in the stands.

        • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 8:40 am |

          Does a member of the crowd have a right to run onstage at a concert? Or a play?

        • Padday | June 4, 2012 at 8:46 am |

          If it happens during the play then fair enough but the game was over. The fan no longer posed a threat to the outcome of the game vis-á-vis fan interference. Also, if the player is getting elbowy during a moment of supposed jubilation like that, then what does that say about the player? If he can’t just realise that the fan is merely expressing joy and offering his congratulations then he needs to get the stick out of his ass.

          Anyway, back to my original point – who has more right to be in that scrum, one fan who simply wants to join the celebration or five cameramen who want to get paid for a better shot?

        • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 8:51 am |

          You’re missing the point. The media covering the event IS part of the event, especially in sports.

          Fans are NOT part of the team, or the event. They are spectators. They celebrate in the stands.

          If nothing else is simply a question of good manners, which of course is irrelevant, isn’t it.

        • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2012 at 8:52 am |

          Of course he had no right to be there — which is exactly why it’s sort of cool that he did it.

          Trespassing is fun. It’s fun because it’s transgressive. On the grand scale of transgressions, it’s relatively minor. Yes, you can get caught (esp. if you do it in a place with a heavy security contingent and no easy means of egress, like a baseball field), and that’s part of the kick. So you get your kicks, you get caught, you get punished, although not too severely. Seems like a fair deal all around to me.

        • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 8:55 am |

          By your logic, it should be okay for audience members to run up onstage at a play to be part of the curtain call.

        • Mike V. | June 4, 2012 at 8:58 am |

          I usually view these people as idiots. I hear what you’re saying Paul, I just don’t see the point of wanting to do it. If someone wants to do it, even though they know what will happen as soon as their foot hits the grass, then I guess they have a right to express their stupidity. To me, it’s not worth it.

        • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2012 at 8:59 am |

          I’m not saying it’s okay. He should be punished. And when you say “by my logic,” I will happily concede that there isn’t much logic to what I’m saying.

          We talk all the time about how sports is a civic enterprise, how the fan/team bond is special, etc. A no-hitter or a championship isn’t the same as seeing a play — it’s a lot more emotional than that. Everyone here has experienced that in some way.

          That doesn’t make it “okay” to run onto the field. But I can understand why it happens. And it doesn’t bother me nearly as much as, say, the wave. Or people jibber-jabbering on their cell phones during the game. Or any of a million other fan behaviors that are more annoying than some guy running onto the field.

        • Padday | June 4, 2012 at 9:07 am |

          If we’re getting into semantics Ricko then how does documenting an event make you part of the event and spectating not? If anything, somebody who interferes with an event they are documenting is contaminating it and ruining it to a certain extent. In the shots above you’ve got five cameramen not celebrating but still part of the scrum. Kinda ruins the shot no?

          Of course there’s no official right for the fan to be there. But if we come at it from a fan point of view (as we all are) when we celebrate, we do it as if we are part of the team. We didn’t actually do anything, but that’s part of the beauty of supporting a sports team. As fans, why should we find it so objectionable that one of us should, in a completely unmalicious or non threatening act, take that to it’s most literal conclusion? Salute the man for being a fan, just like you.

        • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 9:17 am |

          Ever seen old footage of MLB, where photographers with their big ol’ cameras gather about about 15 feet from the hitter?

        • Ry Co 40 | June 4, 2012 at 9:25 am |

          i celebrate with other fans (high-5, jump up and down, hug, scream, etc…) because… 90-some-percent of what i’m rooting for… is laundry.

          plain and simple, stay in your (overpriced) seats

        • Kyle Allebach | June 4, 2012 at 9:41 am |

          I was gonna say that the Mets security didn’t need to tackle the guy like they did, then I remember that the Phillies tazed some kid ’cause he ran out on the field.

          It’s getting kind of annoying. With the way everybody is handling security now (not saying it’s without reason), seeing the kind of reaction isn’t really a big deal. Then again, if you run out on to the field, I hope you know what a tazer feels like.

          Then again, people do this to end up on the news half the time.

        • Mike V. | June 4, 2012 at 10:00 am |

          I endorse cruel and unusual punishment for anyone talking on cellphones during a game in a non-emergency situation. They should be hit over the head, tazered, and then covered on honey and have fire ants dropped on them. At least the people who run on the field are showing that they are watching the game.

        • Mike V. | June 4, 2012 at 10:03 am |


          I will have to admit that I find it highly amusing when fans run on the field. There is nothing better than watching the chase, tackle, and beating. If the guy ends up being able to run from security for long enough, he actually gets the fans on his side. I just disagree with the notion that a fan has a right to be on the field.

        • Padday | June 4, 2012 at 10:10 am |

          “Ever seen old footage of MLB, where photographers with their big ol’ cameras gather about about 15 feet from the hitter?”

          I don’t see what your point is Ricko. Any cameraman who interferes with or gets too close to what they are documenting, regardless of the era or equipment they are using, is committing the same documentarian’s sin of contamination. I don’t discriminate.

        • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 10:19 am |

          “Ever seen old footage of MLB, where photographers with their big ol’ cameras gather about about 15 feet from the hitter?”

          “I don’t see what your point is Ricko.”

          Didn’t think you would. But I took a chance you might.

        • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 10:24 am |

          “Explain. Why does a fan have no right to be on the field?”

          You’re kidding, right?

          Real fans do not run onto the field. That’s not your place. It belongs to the players & that’s where they do their work. It’s also a huge safety risk to the players. You don’t know if that fan has a knife, drunk or bad intentions. It is behavior that should not ever be tolerated.

          Fans who run on the field should be permanently banned from the stadium.

        • Padday | June 4, 2012 at 10:25 am |

          So? Enlighten me as to what the point was rather than act all high and mighty on your cloud of understanding from which you can shoot you’re lightning bolts of condescension. I can hardly respond otherwise.

        • Graf Zeppelin | June 4, 2012 at 10:39 am |

          Trespassing is one of the oldest common-law intentional torts. Simply put, for the purposes of a MLB game, the field is private property. Anyone who enters that property without a license to do so is trespassing. A ticket to a MLB game gives you a license to enter the stadium and all areas designated for ticket-holders, which do not include the field.

        • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 10:47 am |

          Simple. The media that captures visual images has long functioned around the edges of sporting events. The methodology has changed over the years, that’s all.

          To claim they “don’t belong there” is arriving seriously late to the party.

          In fact, introducing it into a discussion of fans on the field is virtually irrelevant.

        • Padday | June 4, 2012 at 11:02 am |

          OK, so I did understand your point the first time around and I answered it – regardless of the context I oppose that kind of media interference out of hand. I don’t care that it’s been around for ages, I oppose it regardless.

          My original point was that it’s hypocritical to kick fans off the field when you allow cameramen to invade and directly interfere with the celebrations on the field. If it’s about that space being exclusively for the players then the set of players excludes cameramen as well as fans equally. Similarly, if fans can be a safety risk then why not cameramen wielding large pieces of electrical equipment and trailing wires? At the very least, the fan fits in with both the look and atmosphere of the scene (wearing a Mets jersey, celebrating jubilantly), wheras the cameramen are little more than vultures.

        • Shane | June 4, 2012 at 11:05 am |

          “Does a member of the crowd have a right to run onstage at a concert?”

          Ah Ricko, I forgot you were too old for punk rock.

          (that said, as an ardent fan of punk rock, fuck stage diving)

        • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 11:11 am |

          “Similarly, if fans can be a safety risk then why not cameramen wielding large pieces of electrical equipment and trailing wires? At the very least, the fan fits in with both the look and atmosphere of the scene (wearing a Mets jersey, celebrating jubilantly), wheras the cameramen are little more than vultures.”

          You’re comparing somebody who is at work doing his JOB to a fan NOT on a job taking in a game?

          Oh so a fan is wearing a jersey, it is almost okay or somehow better because he “fits in”? Where do people come up with this shit?!

        • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 11:16 am |

          “Does a member of the crowd have a right to run onstage at a concert?”

          “Ah Ricko, I forgot you were too old for punk rock.

          “(that said, as an ardent fan of punk rock, fuck stage diving)”

          To make a point, there are many forms of concerts. To make another, just because one particularly boorish version accepts such behavior doesn’t mean the rest of the world should say, “Oh, I guess we were wrong; it’s okay after all.”

        • Padday | June 4, 2012 at 11:17 am |

          Cameraman runs onto the field to get a good shot of the scrum, trips over somebody else’s wire, drops camera onto a player causing him serious injury. That scenario is just about as likely (if not more likely) as that fan causing anybody injury.

          And yes, while we’re discussing this on a website which discusses aesthetics in sports I’m going to say that a fan, in proper attire is a more aesthetically pleasing sight in a celebration scrum than cameramen dressed in black jackets and headphones wielding machinery.

        • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 11:27 am |

          “My original point was that it’s hypocritical to kick fans off the field when you allow cameramen to invade and directly interfere with the celebrations on the field.”

          Huh? Covering the celebration is part of covering the event. And sometimes cameramen get tangled in it. You’ve never seen such a thing before?

          It sounds a bit like you’re saying, “Well, if the media gets to be down on the field, why can’t WE be down on the field?”

          Which, quite frankly, is a question we’d expect from a nine-year-old. So I honestly hope you aren’t asking it.

        • Padday | June 4, 2012 at 11:33 am |

          “Covering the celebration is part of covering the event. And sometimes cameramen get tangled in it. You’ve never seen such a thing before?”

          Hence they have cameras in the stands and on the edge of the field of play. If the fan is to be content with that vantage, why not the cameramen? Frankly those really close in shots always end up looking like shit anyway.

        • Graf Zeppelin | June 4, 2012 at 11:52 am |

          Cameramen have a license to enter the field, by virtue of having been issued press credentials that expressly grant such license by the club and/or MLB which, for the purposes of the game, “own” the field. Fans do not have a license to enter the field; their tickets grant only a license to enter the stands, concourses, concession facilities, ramps/stairwells, and other designated areas.

          Put simply, cameramen have a right to enter the field because they have been granted that right by the owner of the property. Fans do not have a right to enter the field because they have not been granted that right by the owner of the property.

        • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 11:52 am |

          Apparently somebody really hates cameramen.

        • Padday | June 4, 2012 at 11:56 am |

          I need to come clean: as a child I was raped by a cameraman.

        • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 12:00 pm |

          Full circle now.
          You’d have bitched about a cadre pf the photographers 15 feet from the hitter back in the day, too.

          That’s what I wanted to know.

          Moving on.

        • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 12:09 pm |

          No TMZ allowed in Padday’s house (tho that’s a good rule for everyone).

          Damn them molesting cameramen & their sweaty hands.

        • Ryan | June 4, 2012 at 1:40 pm |

          I don’t recall any cameramen coming out onto the field and kicking the crap out of one of the players or coaches. This has happened a few times. September of 2002, that moronic father/son duo of Chicago Whitesox fans jump onto the field just to beat the crap out of the Royals first base coach. Fans do not belong on the field, and you have no idea what their intention is when they do step onto the field. Cameramen, I tend to think their intention is to do their job.

        • rdb | June 5, 2012 at 12:11 am |

          You can’t be serious.

        • Paul Q. | June 5, 2012 at 2:23 am |

          Why isn’t there this kind of uproar when hundreds of college students rush a football field after a big win and tear down the goalposts?

      • Jason | June 4, 2012 at 8:56 am |

        …and money belongs in fans wallets…pure elitism at its finest, just missing the cages to separate the poor from the very poor…

        • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 9:04 am |

          Smacks of Participation Trophy thinking.

          “What, there’s something I don’t get to be part of? I have EARN my right to be somewhere? That sucks, and I refuse to accept it. Life shouldn’t deny me anything.”

        • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 10:56 am |

          And say at concerts where the closest seats cost more, because not everyone is entitled to the front row?

          Give me a break. Jason sounds like a Communist or a lazy chronic whiner.

        • rdb | June 5, 2012 at 12:12 am |

          The “hate the rich people” mantra on the internet is getting very old. Quit bitching about “elitism” and do something to make your own life better.

      • ChrisH | June 4, 2012 at 9:12 am |
        • Kyle Allebach | June 4, 2012 at 9:49 am |

          Security uses tasers because they’re not athletic enough to chase them down. Which I find pathetic; there are many places where using a taser is acceptable, but a fan running out on a baseball field, otherwise not being a threat? Better start working these guys out so they can actually catch the next delinquent teenager.

        • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 10:36 am |

          Kyle, do you not understand what a intentionally dangerous risk a fan running onto the field is? Don’t make me bring up what happened at New Comiskey Park.

          “September 19, 2002: Kansas City Royals First base coach Tom Gamboa was attacked on the field by two fans, William Ligue Jr. and son, during a game against the White Sox. The father and son, highly intoxicated, ran onto the field unprovoked, tackled Gamboa, and threw several punches before being restrained by players and security. Ligue Jr. was later found to have been possessing a knife. Gamboa suffered permanent hearing loss as a result of the attack.”

          It’s not the main issue (tho it can be) of the security not being athletic enough, it’s about acting quickly enough to stop a situation from spiraling out of control.

          I for one do not want to see nets put up all around the ballpark just because some jackass can’t stay their seat where they belong.

        • ChrisH | June 4, 2012 at 11:13 am |


          Not even nets would stop some fans from acting on impulse, intoxication, or potential internet notoriety:



        • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 11:48 am |

          Let’s hear it for Mike Curtis…

        • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 12:11 pm |

          Mike Curtis: thumbs up

        • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 12:12 pm |

          “Not even nets would stop some fans from acting on impulse, intoxication, or potential internet notoriety”

          No, but an electric fence might.

    • Seth H | June 4, 2012 at 8:53 am |

      Wanna know why fans can never be allowed on the field? Four words: Monica Seles; Laz Diaz.

      • George N. | June 4, 2012 at 10:36 am |

        You can add Tom Gamboa to that list.

      • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 10:38 am |

        09/19/02 New Comiskey Park

        • Phil Hecken | June 4, 2012 at 10:52 am |

          or this

      • Jimbo | June 4, 2012 at 10:57 am |

        And in the NHL, if a fan gets on the ice, they get an unfriendly reception:

        Even the refs occasionally get to bring the hammer down:

        • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 12:14 pm |

          I couldn’t even IMAGINE running onto the slippery ice with guys in razor-sharp skates, carrying sticks & strung out on steroids & meds.

          That’s a whole new level of stupid right there.

    • Luther Mahoney | June 4, 2012 at 9:46 am |

      Fans storming the field after games is still common in college football and basketball. Also,when
      Manchester City won of English Premier League three weeks ago,the fans stormed the field to
      celebrate but,were back in the stands for the trophy presentation.

      • Mike MIller | June 4, 2012 at 10:26 am |

        Southampton fans invaded the pitch after clinching promotion to the Premier League this past season.


      • Matt Beahan | June 4, 2012 at 11:52 am |

        It’s a fairly common thing to invade the pitch here when your team wins the title – it’s seen as a (mostly) harmless tradition.

        I remember the one and only time I ran onto the pitch – last game of the ’93-’94 season, and my hometown Kidderminster Harriers had just clinched the league championship. All of the fans stood around the pitch ran out to celebrate – the officials tried to keep us off at first, but eventually gave up and let us carry on. About half of the total crowd must have ended up on the pitch, but it was all good-natured and there wasn’t any trouble…

    • Bernard | June 4, 2012 at 10:02 am |

      I’m okay with a random fan running onto the field. It’s a bit of a “stick it to the man” kind of moment, and I love watching the guy try to outrun/juke security. I wouldn’t want to see it become (more of) an epidemic, and I certainly don’t want to see anybody get hurt, but as it is, when it happens, I think it’s kinda fun.

      • pushbutton | June 4, 2012 at 11:38 am |

        I think of the old footage of Don Cardwell being mobbed after his 1960 no-hitter at Wrigley Field. It looked like the entire crowd emptied onto the field. Innocent times.

    • Graham Jaunts | June 4, 2012 at 12:55 pm |

      Some of you guys are taking the “EVERYTHING OLD-TIMEY IS AWESOME!” thing a little too far.

      Fans don’t belong on the field. It’s not a good thing, it’s a dangerous thing. They should be tackled, arrested, and sent to the clink for being idiots.

      Besides, aren’t we usually against “LOOK AT ME!!!” things here at Uni-Watch? Fans don’t run on the field to celebrate because they are overcome with joy and emotion, they run on the field because they are drunk and want to cause a scene.

  • Ryan L | June 4, 2012 at 8:01 am |

    Orlando Hudson of the Padres/nowChiSox goes double flapped

    • JTH | June 4, 2012 at 10:48 am |

      Padres/nowChiSox? I’m not familiar with that team. What league do they play in?

  • JamesP. | June 4, 2012 at 8:05 am |

    Paul – Jed Lowrie of the Astros is double-flapped

  • Dom | June 4, 2012 at 8:14 am |

    In the famous “Havlicek Stole the Ball” game for the Boston Celtics the fans rushed the court too. After the final shot you can see a fan grab the ball and run away with it. I think it’s pretty funny. That ball is probably worth some good money today.

    Watch the video to see the fan steal the ball here:

    • BurghFan | June 4, 2012 at 8:23 am |

      Although fans didn’t get the game ball in either case, they surrounded the Boston Garden court as the Celts were about to win the ’84 and ’86 championships, and rushed it as the game ended.

      I remember Chambliss not being able to touch the plate in ’76, and I’m sure there was fear of violence breaking out (possibly toward a visiting player) in one of those celebrations.

  • Dumb Guy | June 4, 2012 at 8:18 am |
  • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2012 at 8:21 am |

    While we’re at it: Who’s still wearing the pockets inside out besides Jose Reyes, Hanley Ramirez, and AJ Pierzynski?

    • Paul Q. | June 5, 2012 at 2:26 am |

      A better question is WHY are they wearing their pockets inside out?

  • Jeff Katz | June 4, 2012 at 8:40 am |

    When the Philly police lined the field on horseback in ’80, it was a pretty big deal. That may have been the beginning of the fan crackdown.

    • ChrisH | June 4, 2012 at 8:53 am |

      The Philly PD had K9’s on the field for Game 6 too!

      From this article:


      “But the inimitable McGraw found inspiration from the animal kingdom of all places. ‘I’m drained. And then I notice the mounted police are circling the field along with German shepherds to keep the fans from storming the diamond. All of a sudden, one of the horses makes a `deposit’ on the turf and I thought `If I don’t get Wilson out that’s what I’ll be in this town!'”.

      • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2012 at 9:04 am |

        That’s exactly the quote I was thinking of, the one I referred to in today’s main entry!

    • Jimbo | June 4, 2012 at 10:45 am |

      The Yankees had “dozens of mounted police officers” around the field in 1977, according to the memory of a photographer Chris Stanley who was there: http://thirty7thframe.blogspot.com/2008/09/yankee-stadium-1977.html

  • Because Japan | June 4, 2012 at 8:41 am |

    Paul, there has to be a better explanation for “Kalo Kingston” on Victorino’s glove. There was no such character in Soul Calibur IV, but the game lets you create your own character. The Google result that mentions SCIV is definitely a product of that game feature, unless Victorino runs his own DeviantArt site and draws anime characters on notebook paper during his downtime on team flights.

    • wautel | June 4, 2012 at 9:12 am |

      That was my fault. I was checking with the photographer of the picture, he thought it was a Soul Caliber IV player. Seeing the image, I was under impression that it was. Since it’s not, I have no clue why he has it on his glove now, unless he’s truly an ubernerd…

    • Chip | June 4, 2012 at 10:38 am |

      Shane has two children – Kali’a and Kingston.

  • Unknown DIY'er | June 4, 2012 at 8:41 am |

    The cap A’s that Melhuse is wearing looks to be similar to the old line of “Signature Caps” that AJD put out in the late 80’s or early 90’s. The signature on the cap Looks like Rene Lachemann’s, who may have worn number 15 as a coach with the Athletics during that time period when these caps were produced.

    • John Zajac | June 4, 2012 at 3:59 pm |

      Yeah, that was my thought too. It reminded me of the Don Mattingly hat that I had growing up. They were snapback hats, which it looks like this Melhuse hat is as well. I don’t know what surprises me more: this picture, or the fact that I can’t find a single picture of any of these caps from back then.

  • jtv108 | June 4, 2012 at 8:46 am |

    I wonder if anyone tried to run onto the field after a celebration with a full fledged uniform (jersey, pants, stirrups, hat) would Security be keen enough to notice.

    I am almost tempted to try.

    • pushbutton | June 4, 2012 at 4:09 pm |

      Stirrups would give you away.


    • Matt Beahan | June 4, 2012 at 4:32 pm |

      A chap called Karl Power has become notorious for that kind of thing over here:


  • Rob S | June 4, 2012 at 8:47 am |

    How can you have that thorough of a Seattle uni history and not include the TATCs?

  • Dumb Guy | June 4, 2012 at 8:51 am |

    I think the final straw that led to fans being (officially) barred from the field was when KC coach Tom Gamboa was attacked by a couple of fans while coaching first base. 2002-ish.

  • Duncan | June 4, 2012 at 8:59 am |

    black field would be WAY too hot in September, completely unusable in the summer, and would almost have to fade quickly.

  • John Q | June 4, 2012 at 9:00 am |

    I think there’s a difference between running on to a field during a game and after the game is finished. It’s hard to remember now but people actually used to leave Yankee Stadium by walking onto the field and exiting through the outfield gates.

    It seems like the crowds were really becoming completely out of control by the 1970’s with people stealing hats and uniform parts and bases as souvenirs. I mean Chambliss looks like he’s being mugged in that photo. You can see the end of the 1979 world series on YouTube and Pirates catcher Steve Nicosia is beating the hell out of some fan who was trying to take his mask or helmet.

    I seems like teams were becoming less tolerant of this behavior in the 1980’s and it seems like letting crowds onto the field after a game was phased out by the early 1990’s.

    • Rob S | June 4, 2012 at 9:43 am |

      Not too surprised the attitude toward fans on the field had particularly soured by the end of the 1970s, given what happened during that decade:

      1971: The final game of the Senators ended in a forfeit due to fans pouring onto the field with one out left, the crowd pissed off at the recent announcement of the team’s pending move to Texas. The forfeit negated a game effort by the Sens (who were themselves not happy with the situation), who’d mounted a comeback in an otherwise meaningless season finale.

      1974: Ten Cent Beer Night. Fans kept getting onto the field at various points of the game, with various amounts of flashing going on. Finally, with the game tied up in the bottom of the ninth, one fan went after a Rangers outfielder. As the Rangers came out to defend their guy, the floodgates opened, and the Indians had to come out and help defend the Rangers from the drunken mob. Cleveland ended up forfeiting.

      1979: Disco Demolition Night. This happened between games of a doubleheader (which had resulted from a rainout earlier in the season). However, the White Sox players had started to take the field for warmups after the stunt was completed when fans started storming the field. The second game was originally postponed due to the destruction of the field, but it was ruled a forfeit the next day.

      • Joseph Gerard | June 4, 2012 at 11:26 am |

        I wish I would’ve been alive and old enough to drink in 1974 for Ten Cent Beer Night. Only in Cleveland…

      • mike 2 | June 4, 2012 at 1:26 pm |

        Well timed – today is the 38th anniversary of ten cent beer night.

        Carry on.

  • Simply Moono | June 4, 2012 at 9:02 am |

    “- Four years later, in 1973, fans again poured out onto the Shea Stadium diamond when the Mets won the fifth and deciding game of the 1973 NLCS against the reds.”

    “reds” should have a capital ‘R’.

    Also, I’m sure this was Leo’s face when he saw that misspelled MGM Grand logo.

  • Rick | June 4, 2012 at 9:04 am |

    “I don’t see anything wrong with fans on the field”-Monica Seles

    • pushbutton | June 4, 2012 at 4:12 pm |

      Wasn’t he actually in the stands? Reaching over them?

  • Pedro | June 4, 2012 at 9:15 am |

    I was at the last game ever in old Comiskey Park in 1990 (both Griffeys were in the outfield for the Mariners). The Chicago Police had paddy wagons and cops on horses all over the warning track before the final out. Somewhere I have pictures.

    I was also at the last baseball game ever at RFK in 2007. Some fans who said they flew in from San Francisco and had created the original “Short Stinks” banners at the last Senators game tried to unravel banners that said “Short Still Stinks.” Nats security made them take those down after about 5 minutes. And that had nothing to do with storming the field.

    • Ry Co 40 | June 4, 2012 at 9:32 am |

      “Nats security made them take those down after about 5 minutes”

      shoulda slapped a swoosh on it…

  • Pedro | June 4, 2012 at 9:18 am |

    Keith Richards has the right idea: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyK0y02HvVc

    • Shane | June 4, 2012 at 11:12 am |

      I’ve always said that in case of a zombie apocalypse, a Telecaster is probably your best choice of weapon. Built like tanks.

  • Michael C | June 4, 2012 at 9:19 am |

    The 15 on the A’s cap is in reference to former A’s 3rd base coach Rene Lachemann; you can see his signature above the 15. (although at some point he wore #16 as well)

  • DJ | June 4, 2012 at 9:20 am |

    Whats wrong with the picture? Snow white Mets jerseys forever memoralized in a classic game. We are seeing these far too frequently, IMO. I’ve heard of the unofficial “schedule”…i thought Pins were for night games….(i guess Santana has something to do with this?) How about Pins during a day game please? First we got rid of the black (almost)…..next should be Snow whites! “Ditch the Snow Whites!!!”

    • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2012 at 9:24 am |

      Santana doesn’t like the pins, so they wear white at home whenever he pitches, day or night.

      • DJ | June 4, 2012 at 10:03 am |

        Thanks Paul. Anyone else besides me have a problem with players determining what gets worn? I mean…i like Santana as a Met….but does he really have any emotional investment in the uniforms like the fans do? It kind of pisses me off that he gets to decide……however, they did wear the pins for Opening Day….obviously someone overruled him on that one. I kind of feel that players should have no say on what gets worn.

        • A.J. | June 4, 2012 at 11:57 am |

          I don’t mind it. I actually like the all white jerseys. As long as they keep wearing blue hats, it doesn’t matter to me. If you want to watch a team wear pinstripes every game, go 40 minutes north of Shea. And you say he doesn’t have any investment in it, but clearly he does, otherwise he wouldn’t care what he wears.

        • knucka11 | June 4, 2012 at 1:14 pm |

          The Twins starting pitcher picks the uniform every game. I think the players should almost more than anyone have a say because they’re the ones who have to perform in them, and if they do not feel comfortable or something bugs them with them and it is not a special occasion, they should wear whatever is best for their performance. I know I’ve heard a couple times this season that the Twins don’t wear their cream pinstripes because they’re not as comfortable or breathable as the white pinstripes or their blue tops.

          This does come back to though, why are these jerseys coming out not being effectively the same comfort-wise? It’s not like we have multiple companies producing each uniform, it’s all Majestic.

        • DJ | June 4, 2012 at 2:08 pm |

          Hey A.J. I’ve been watching the Mets for 30 years and for the first 15 or so, all i saw at home was blue hats and pinstripes. The notion that the Yankees “own” the pinstripes is ludicrous. Mets wore them exclusively for their first 35 years of existence!! If you want to see a clean home white jersey, watch the Dodgers. Now look at todays game…fourth straight home game without pinstripes. Just retire the pinstripes already if they wont wear them as the primary home uniform. This way people like myself wont be as angry about it.

  • Jason M (DC) | June 4, 2012 at 9:23 am |

    Lombardozzi’s name is misspelled in the photo of the four double-flapped players.

    • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2012 at 9:26 am |

      [Head-slap] Thanks!

  • Arr Scott | June 4, 2012 at 9:28 am |

    So the Mets were back in black on the same weekend that Bill Maher announced he’d purchased a minority share in the team and showed up at Citi wearing a black Mets cap:


    Coincidence, or pandering to the new limited partner?

    • Phil Hecken | June 4, 2012 at 10:39 am |

      two words: johnny franco

      • Arr Scott | June 4, 2012 at 10:43 am |

        Yeah, that’s the cover story, but I suspect a deeper and more troubling conspiracy that could lead to black returning.

  • Luke | June 4, 2012 at 9:35 am |

    So the Bobcats are going with a dark blue/light blue color scheme? How original.

  • Ry Co 40 | June 4, 2012 at 9:36 am |

    “New logo set for North Dakota State”

    congrats on your new Biso-Slug logo! worked out well for the Sab… ummm… GL! TTYL!

    • Mike MIller | June 4, 2012 at 10:20 am |

      Actually, NDSU’s logo is just a cleanup of the previous logo, not really a major change.

      Here’s the old logo.


    • James A | June 4, 2012 at 11:02 am |

      I wonder how long it will take before one of the school’s teams will force black into their jerseys and/or logos. Or gray gor gray’s sake.

  • Lose Rem | June 4, 2012 at 9:42 am |

    I’m thinking back to some “celebrations” in the Motor City, and I’m not so sure Detriot is wrong.

    Probably proofread by the same guy who approved Amercia for Romney last week.

    • Rob S | June 4, 2012 at 9:54 am |

      Detroit will never live down that 1984 mess, even though we’ve learned our freaking lesson and haven’t rioted in “celebration” of a championship since, while other cities have made fools of themselves “celebrating”, or even rioting when losing!

      • mike 2 | June 4, 2012 at 1:29 pm |

        The people killed in the riots after various Pistons championships would disagree with you

  • teenchy | June 4, 2012 at 9:42 am |

    “When did teams start getting serious about security?”

    A complete WAG, but maybe after Rick Monday foiled the flag-burning attempt at Dodger Stadium in 1976?

  • Ry Co 40 | June 4, 2012 at 9:42 am |

    i can say with great confidence, the Charlotte Bobcats logo is one of the worst fuckin logos in sports…

    it’s so bad, that it kinda makes me like that Beyonce Nets logo.

  • quiet seattle | June 4, 2012 at 9:45 am |

    The Charolette Bobcats, already so dull and irrelevant in every aspect of identity, opt to go with dark blue and light blue. What a surprise.

    • SoCalDrew | June 4, 2012 at 1:10 pm |

      Do the Bobcats really function as much besides a Michael Jordan vanity project?

  • steven | June 4, 2012 at 9:46 am |

    this is well after the 1980 World Series, but maybe things got really serious after the Monica Seles stabbing

  • BigBirdie | June 4, 2012 at 9:50 am |

    I’d have to say that MLB changed its views about fans on the field the minute these two morons jumped over the wall:


    From that moment on, fans actually became a threat instead of a curious diversion. As they say, “It only takes one bad apple…”.

    Of course, two years later MLB had no problem diverting attention from perhaps the most notable storyline of the decade for shameless self-promotional purposes:


    • Chance Michaels | June 4, 2012 at 11:07 am |

      I think you’re being a little hard on the Red Sox. Considering the source material, they were lucky to get the film’s ending.

  • Brett | June 4, 2012 at 9:50 am |

    Rafael Furcal wore one batting glove a week back against Atlanta, but that seemed to be a one day thing


    • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2012 at 9:55 am |

      Oooh, and he wore it on his *top* hand — unusual!

  • Bernard | June 4, 2012 at 9:59 am |

    I look at the Bobcats going dark blue/light blue, and I see them attempting to appeal directly to Duke and UNC fans. Kinda like the Atlanta Falcons with UGA and GT.

  • Kyle Allebach | June 4, 2012 at 9:59 am |

    Did Ju Know? Bill Maher bought a minority share of the Mets?

  • DonS | June 4, 2012 at 10:01 am |

    Mr. Diaz should consider himself lucky that he wasn’t “tagged and bagged” in addition to the two nights in the clink. (A question, was it “Met’s Jail” like the one Kevin James and Leah Remini wound up in?) All stadiums have a zero tolerance for any fans coming onto the field after what happened in Chicago when the KC 1st base coach got involved in a father-son outing.

    Its bad enough that one of the Mets hurt himself in the post “Nohan” celebration – can you imagine the fallout if it happened because of a fan on the field? And I am not talking about K-Rod’s father-in-law.

    Oh yes, a note to St. Louis Post-Dispatch – I am ok with the asterisk you put on Johan’s No-No as long as you do the same for the ’85 World Series and McGuire’s HR he hit while juiced up.

    • Perry | June 4, 2012 at 10:41 am |

      Oh, Cardinals fans definitely have an asterisk on the ’85 Series.

      • Phil Hecken | June 4, 2012 at 10:46 am |

        even armando gallaraga says “STFU”

        there is probably at least one-two bad calls PER MLB game…you really want to complain about shit, go over every game and watch replay and you’ll find “blown” calls

        the only time anyone ever bitches about them is when a) their team got “robbed” (and umps never make up for blown calls later on) or when it happened in a “big” game

        deal with it…umps make mistakes (and most times they’ll admit to it afterwards — see joyce, jim or denkinger, don) but that’s part of the game

        to say no-han deserved an asterisk is fair only if you want to put an asterisk on virtually EVERY MLB game ever played for the past 112 years

        • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 11:05 am |

          If people want a perfectly umpired game, go play a fucking video game.

          I swear all this new technology has turned people into a bunch of chronic whiners.

        • Joseph Gerard | June 4, 2012 at 11:09 am |

          Umps making mistakes. This reminds me of a passage in Pete Rose’s book “My Prison Without Bars”, when he talks about his time in federal prison for tax evasion. Long story short, Rose compared his first few nights in prison staying in a room next to the toilets to a Reds-Pirates game at Three Rivers Stadium when Pirates catcher Manny Sanguillen had eaten Dominican tacos before the game and had so much bad gas that the umpire wanted to get out of that game ASAP, and was calling “every pitch a strike” against the Reds. According to Rose, the game lasted an hour and forty minutes, which he said was at the time the shortest nine-inning game in MLB history.

          And no, I would NOT suggest asking Sanguillen at the next Pirates home game when in line to get food from his restaurant at PNC Park. To be honest, when I went up to him last season that passage NEVER crossed my mind.

        • DonS | June 4, 2012 at 11:38 am |

          I was being facetious there on the asterisk, ok? The Post Dispatch can kiss my Met loving ass.

      • Joseph Gerard | June 4, 2012 at 11:16 am |

        “Oh, Cardinals fans definitely have an asterisk on the ’85 Series.”

        If that was the case, then we would have an asterik for Neil O’Donnell throwing those interceptions to Larry Brown in Super Bowl XXX. (Some of us still dispute that, although I’ll be the first to admit, we did deserve to lose to the Packers in Super Bowl XLV.) I love my Steelers to death, and the Cardinals remind me as MLB’s equivalent of the Steelers (small-market team with national rabid fanbase, consistently in contention, multiple championships, city lives for the team, etc…), so despite playing in the NL Central with the Buccos I have nothing against the Cards BECAUSE they remind me of the Steelers. With that said, Cards fans need to get over themselves. I was just being born when they lost the World Series back in ’85. They’ve won TWO World Championships since then. I’m sure all parties involved have moved on. And let the Royals have their day in the sun. Pretty sure they’re not going back to the World Series anytime soon.

    • George N. | June 4, 2012 at 10:55 am |

      Yeah, if we’re going to be talking about an asterisk on a World Series, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch should put one on Game 3 of the 2011 WS, when Ron Kulpa’s blown-call against the Rangers swung the momentum of the game, and possibly the whole Series, in favor of the Cards.

      I don’t begrudge the Cardinals their success; on the other hand, the St. Louis Post-Disptach makes itself look like a rinky-dink operation when it runs an article slamming A-Roid for his steroid use and cheesy apology when they themselves buried their collective heads in the sand about Big Mac and then proceeded to excoriate anyone who dared to question Tony “Smartest Man in Baseball” LaRussa when he pleaded ignorance about McGwire’s steroid use.

    • Robert | June 4, 2012 at 3:07 pm |

      As a Dallas sports fan, I’ve been on both sides of this. The Colts got into field goal range on a blown call to win Super Bowl V. Then Brett Hull stuck the toe of his skate in the crease against Buffalo to win the Stanley Cup. And I’m SICK of hearing how the Stars shouldn’t have their name on the cup. Since I don’t like hearing it, I don’t dish it out.

      But that ignores all the other crap that goes on to influence games. I’m way more offended that baseball’s record book and who knows how many results were altered due to steroids than I am about a blown call here or there.

  • Mike MIller | June 4, 2012 at 10:23 am |

    The IndyCar driver whose car is pictured is E.J. Viso, not A.J. Viso.


  • Joseph Gerard | June 4, 2012 at 10:38 am |

    Even if the Giants had decided to let Bruce Bochy wear a suit as a direct throwback to John McGraw, didn’t MLB effectively ban managers wearing suits after Connie Mack retired? Personally, I’m not opposed to managers wearing suits. (If anything, I think MLB and NFL need to REQUIRE it. At least the NFL flirted with it a few years back when they let Mike Nolan and Jack Del Rio wear suits.) But I think the official MLB rule book states that any manager that is in the dugout has to wear a baseball uniform. Theoretically, suits are still allowed, but wouldn’t it be impractical for managers to manage a baseball game from the stands when they are needed in the dugout?

    • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2012 at 10:47 am |

      There is nothing in the *rulebook* requiring the manager to wear a uniform. There has been an edict to that effect from the Commissioner’s office, however (as Terry Francona and Joe Maddon can attest).

      Still, I suspect they’d waive it for a throwback game.

      • Geoff | June 4, 2012 at 11:52 am |

        I don’t have the reference handy, but there is a baseball rule that states that anyone who comes on the field (other than medical/training personnel) must wear a uniform. It’s been emphasized by the NFHS for the HS level in recent years and I’m pretty sure that’s why Maddon and Francona got the memo from the Commish’s office.

        So, in practice, the managers could wear suits and ties (or jeans and a ripped t-shirt, for that matter) but they wouldn’t be able to come on the field to change a pitcher, argue a call, etc.

        In football, the coach (officially) never steps on the field of play, so they don’t need to wear a uniform. (Same with basketball, hockey, soccer, etc.) I do personally think that NFL coaches should be required to wear suits and ties. You want to celebrate the history of your amazing game? Remind us of Halas/Lombardi/Landry whenever possible.

        • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2012 at 12:08 pm |

          The MLB rulebook is silent on the subject of managers’ attire. Trust me on this — it’s come up, oh, once or twice in the course of my career.

        • Joseph Gerard | June 4, 2012 at 2:39 pm |

          I think Mike Ditka was the only active head coach still wearing a suit when the NFL started requiring head coaches to wear team apparel issued by the respective teams athletic supplier in 1991. You can thank douchebaggery for NFL head coaches no longer wearing suits, although it had already fallen out of favor anyways. You know, I don’t think Chuck Noll ever wore a suit on the sidelines. He was always in a polo shirt and a windbreaker–a good 20 years before it became a requirement. And he was probably the one guy who would wear a suit when you factor in his off-the-field interests, none of which involved football or any blue-collar activities associated with the game.

          I should note too that the only reason Nolan and Del Rio (both of whom are now back to being assistants) were even allowed to wear suits was because Reebok was actually in the process of launching a men’s suit line when Nolan started petitioning the NFL and both were allowed to wear a suit as long as it was a home game and it was the Reebok-issued suit. As far as I’m aware, Nike doesn’t have a suit line.

        • Chance Michaels | June 4, 2012 at 4:39 pm |

          Ditka was full of interesting fashion statements.

        • timmy b | June 4, 2012 at 7:49 pm |

          Isn’t a big part of the reason that MLB managers wore a uniform was because – in most cases – they also doubled up as third base coaches?? I know Leo Durocher doubled up as third base coach and I’m thinking this was the case for many managers until the early 50’s.

          As for Chuck Noll, he actually did wear a dress shirt and tie in 1969 and early in 1970, before going polo shirt. I think he usually wore a windbreaker over his shirt/tie as opposed to a sport coat.

          Bud Grant was the first coach to break the dress shirt & tie dress code in 1967.

  • Gusto44 | June 4, 2012 at 10:39 am |

    In terms of World Series security, MLB saw the ruckus and lack of security after Game 7 at Baltimore. It wasn’t just the fan who was bowled over by Pirates catcher Steve Nicosia, there were other fans who had stormed the field after the Bucs had defeated Baltimore for the second time for the Fall Classic. Both Game 7 clinchers were at Baltimore, which ticked off some people.

    This is clearly evident in the TV coverage of the aftermath, you can see the concern of the Pirate players getting back to the dugout past the disgruntled Oriole fans. Afterward, MLB expressed its concern over the lack of security, and everyone knew 1980 would be different.

    • Joseph Gerard | June 4, 2012 at 10:44 am |

      Well, Philadelphia should have security regardless. IDK, if Pirates fans would’ve known it would be the team’s last World Series appearance for the foreseeable future (although they came close 13 years later), the Pirates fans who made the short trip to Baltimore would’ve probably fought off the Orioles fans in a prelude to the best rivalry in sports back when Baltimore still had the Colts.

    • mjprigge | June 8, 2012 at 1:11 pm |

      In ’82, Brewers fans stormed the field after the team won the AL title. http://tinyurl.com/bs3qoqo

      And while this and running onto the field DURING a game are two different things, Milwaukee also had a long tradition of drunken idiots running onto the field on Opening Day at old County Stadium. At least two per opener. However, that entirely stopped at Miller Park.

  • random reader | June 4, 2012 at 10:48 am |

    About the Giants-Cubs throwback game yesterday, any thoughts about Sergio Romo cutting the loops on his stirrups, leaving the cut loops hanging loose? http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0c1S7JG5nd3nW/610x.jpg

    • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2012 at 10:55 am |

      Wow — I missed that. I assume he found the strap under his sole to be uncomfy. Never seen that before.

      • random reader | June 4, 2012 at 12:04 pm |

        Could have been something he did for personal comfort. I remember reading a quote from a player who said wearing stirrups felt like walking with extension cords in his shoes.

      • Frankie | June 4, 2012 at 8:26 pm |

        I’m fairly certain it’s been featured on here before, but Mark Appel of Stanford (just drafted by the Pirates tonight) wears his stirrups in the same manner…


    • George N. | June 4, 2012 at 10:58 am |

      Did he cut them, or just not loop them under his sanitary sock?

      • Chance Michaels | June 4, 2012 at 11:16 am |

        That’s what it looks like to me.

  • Sean Thompson | June 4, 2012 at 11:05 am |

    The new Liverpool kits cited in the ticker have been out for nearly a month, and have been attracting criticism for about as long for controversially removing a tribute to fans killed in the Hillsborough Stadium disaster from the badge.


  • James A | June 4, 2012 at 11:06 am |

    “…and this would not be relished by the fans, who must have their baseball from the Everglades of Florida to the icy peaks of the North.”

    East Coast bias back in 1907.

  • Wes | June 4, 2012 at 11:21 am |

    The reference to the guys who ran along with Hank Aaron after #715 made me wonder who those guys were. I googled it and found this article. Turns out they were both arrested trying to get off the field…


  • Kek | June 4, 2012 at 11:28 am |

    Paul, I watched a lot of Mets’ games on WWOR during the ’86 season. The fans tore up the field pretty bad at Shea when they clinched the NL East IIRC.

    Now they won the NLCS in Houston, but when they were ready to clinch the WS at home, I remember horseback policemen lining the field so that fans wouldn’t come on then.

    • Pedro | June 4, 2012 at 11:42 am |

      I wonder if at the time Hank Aaron had the slightest concern about the two guys approaching him on the base path. He had been receiving plenty of death threats at the time. And those were the “good old days.”

      Now you can’t assume anything about the guy on the field, even if he’s wearing a wedding dress. http://deadspin.com/5822195/baseball-game-interrupted-by-man-in-wedding-dress

      Want to take your chances jumping on the field during or after the game, fine. But don’t be surprised that security is trained to assume you’re armed and dangerous.

      Diaz only made it to the Mets scrum because no one knew Santana was going to make history. Levels are obviously higher during planned big games like in postseason. But I bet the Mets step things up another notch for regular season.

      • Kek | June 4, 2012 at 12:12 pm |

        I harken back to a time when Morganna could just run on the field and kiss a player.

      • Ben Fortney | June 4, 2012 at 12:46 pm |

        There was an article about this in the last year or two, in depth interview with the two of them and Hammerin’

        • Ben Fortney | June 4, 2012 at 12:47 pm |

          about hank and the 2 fans… not morganna.

      • Lee | June 4, 2012 at 1:08 pm |

        From the article: “Play was stopped at the Nationals-Braves game in Atlanta on Saturday evening so that police officers could take down a streaking fan in a wedding dress.”

        I think someone doesn’t know what “streaking” is.


      • Biff Pocoroba | June 4, 2012 at 1:36 pm |

        Yeah, the Mets Division win in 1986 seems to be the final major fan celebration in MLB. I remember in the post game, after the field was just cratered, Pete Flynn on the 11:00 news said something like “These fans don’t deserve a winning team.”. It was like Groundskeeper Willie was invented right there and then.

        I think nowadays it comes down to: liability, and organizations are doing everything they can to cut down on it. Whoever gets even slightly hurt in situations like that can sue the bejesus out of the host of the event. It’s too bad in a way. The Chambliss home rum is so seered in the memory with the fans swarming the field, all the Mets clinchers in ’69, etc. It seemed to me back then, the fans pay the salaries so that should be the fans’ pay off – to celebrate with the team. Oh well.

    • edgardo2b | June 4, 2012 at 12:18 pm |

      Kek – you are 100% correct about 1986. The fans overran Shea when the Mets clinched the division. During late innings of Game 7 of the World Series, the bullpens were turned into stables and at one point, there was a horse parade as a show of force. Vin Scully made a point to talk about it during the game. I do not recall any on-field fan “celebrations” in baseball after the Mets clinched the 1986 NL East. I think this puts the 1980 Phillies theory to bed.

  • Stirrup Jake | June 4, 2012 at 11:33 am |

    Does anyone have any info for me about MLB sock rules? FYI it’s for Josh Outman, I’ll post the full story on my site later. But the reason is that Josh Outman said he would wear my stirrups on off days but not on the mound because he though it would be against MLB rules. Is this true? The more info the better. Please help!

    Thanks everyone,


    • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2012 at 11:43 am |

      As we’ve discussed several times here on the site, hosiery used to be considered part of the uniform (in which case Outman couldn’t wear just any old stirrups), but now it’s becoming more like equipment (in which case he could theoretically wear anything he wanted).

      It’s not surprising that a player like Outman, in his first season with a new team, wouldn’t want to rock the boat. He already dresses differently than everyone else; he doesn’t want to push it too far, doesn’t want to get on the wrong side of the equipment manager, etc., etc.

      • Stirrup Jake | June 4, 2012 at 12:16 pm |

        Thanks Paul,

        I guess I was wondering if there is any “official” documents that say what you have been saying all along.

        It’s what I thought and also what I told him. But he already does more than enough for all us stirrup lovers. I would hate for anything bad to happen to any player that chooses to wear them. But since the Rockies let Jamie Moyer go he has taken the open spot in the lineup so now there will be a healthy does of Outmania every week!

        This photo was taken just moments before he signed my sign. But I’m linking to it to show two new details that I added.

        1. Added a Uni Watch Sticker
        2. Blacked out the Shooshies logo


  • geronimo | June 4, 2012 at 11:51 am |
  • Jason | June 4, 2012 at 11:56 am |

    Came across this today: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/index.jsp?tcid=mm_mlb_standings

    Looks like they have primary logo’s for everyone except the Indians, where they’ve gone with the C instead of Wahoo? If you click through to each team’s page they use the same logo in the “upcoming matchups”, but the Indians use Wahoo as their “primary” logo on the team site. Is this a disconnect between MLB and the Indians, or is it a subtle transition away from Wahoo?

  • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 12:05 pm |

    Okay, speaking of the playing surface as we are, help me out with this.

    Scott Diamond pitched for Twins last night.

    How many other athletes have had the same name as where they played?

    I can think of Margaret Court (tennis).

    And, of course, Diamond.

    There MUST be more.

    • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 1:18 pm |

      Lots of ones with Field/Fields.

      • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 1:57 pm |

        Yeah, that one I figured was kind of a slam dunk.

    • Mark K | June 4, 2012 at 2:56 pm |

      Gilbert Arenas?

    • teenchy | June 4, 2012 at 4:16 pm |

      Chan Ho Park?

      • pushbutton | June 4, 2012 at 4:26 pm |

        Great minds.

    • pushbutton | June 4, 2012 at 4:25 pm |

      Chan Ho Park

  • Mallrat92204 | June 4, 2012 at 12:16 pm |

    I can’t find any pictures, but I swear I’ve seen Matt Kemp have his pocket inside out like that. I thought it happened when he took his batting gloves out of his back pocket because I only saw it when he was going to bat, not running the bases or in the field.

  • elgato11x | June 4, 2012 at 12:18 pm |

    In 1998, the Cardinals clinched a wild card spot by beating the Chargers, and the fans stormed the field to celebrate. This is the most recent example of storming the field at the NFL level that I can think of.

    Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkVZFIlJKCs

  • Tyson | June 4, 2012 at 12:28 pm |

    If only that Mets fan had ripped off his jersey and painted “Soy Bomb” on his chest..Things mights have ended better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_RIGzk3iTQ

  • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 12:35 pm |

    Let’s imagine what might have been going through Mr. Diaz’ mind as he rushed onto the field, shall we?

    (huffing and puffing) “I don’t care if they tazer me. It’s my team, my life, so much a part of me. They NEED me now, to celebrate WITH them! I just can’t HELP myself. So much JOY in me right now!!! I’m coming, men, let me share the joy!!!”

    That’s one possibility.

    Another is…

    “I’m gonna be on fucking TV !!!!”

    Now let’s search for something positive and/or admirable in either of them.

    • Ry Co 40 | June 4, 2012 at 1:19 pm |

      well, we’ve all been in long enough relationships right? maybe he took a different route…

      “lady friend” at the game:

      “tomorrow night we need to go to home depot and pick up mulch, bricks, plants, weed killer, nalis, trim, paint… my mother is coming over at 9am. let’s build frames, then we can till the yard, then spread mulch. how many beers is that? this game is SO boring! oh, saturday night were going out with sally & jim, you remember jim, you like them! those hot dogs made me bloated, do i look fat? you need to get back into the gym mister. sunday morning you’re gonna fix that board on the porch. how many more miles till i need an oil change? where are you going?!?! you’re stupid! don’t jump over that… i’m calling your mother!!!”

      seems about right, no?

      • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 1:37 pm |

        “OMG, taser me, PLEASE!!!” ?

        I suppose that is a third possible mindset.

    • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 2:29 pm |

      Well Diaz got banned for life at Shea. Good. This stuff needs to stop. *points to lede pic* It’s still disturbing how close he got.

      • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 3:29 pm |

        from article…
        says he “couldn’t help” running on the field.

        Well, that you have it. He needed to share the joy with his, um, teammates. “Look, I’m wearing my Gary Carter jersey n’ everything,” we can imagine he may have been thinking.

        • Ricko | June 4, 2012 at 3:36 pm |

          Can’t speak for anyone else, but I’ve always kinda figured that self-control was part of being an adult.

          Stupid, I know. Must be my older generation that believes in such nonsense.

    • Arr Scott | June 4, 2012 at 5:56 pm |

      Ricko, I think you err by assuming calculation and a sequence of rational thought.

  • Tyson | June 4, 2012 at 12:42 pm |

    Also I’m not sure about other conferences, but the SEC has a policy to fine the schools $50,000 in any instance where fans run onto the field or court..When UK beat Tennessee in football last year for the first time since 1984 they had to pony up, and many UK fans say the fine was worth it..

  • Ben Fortney | June 4, 2012 at 12:48 pm |

    Was Diaz’ move d!ckish? Sure.

    But seeing the sight of a #8 Gary Carter jersey once again celebrating on the field made me smile.

  • Alan | June 4, 2012 at 12:59 pm |

    I remember vividly after the Yankees won the World Series in 1977 and 1978 there were a lot more concerns about security. The Phillies pioneered the security over kill in 1980 with police dogs and cops on horseback. Things really did not tighten up until after the 1986 Eastern Division clinching..I was there..the field got ripped up pretty good..the cops marched everybody out through center field. Met management was pissed off at the condition of the field and they really began to have a no tolerance policy on fans storming the field. I remember in 1999 watching the cops very quietly assemble on horseback behind the Met bullpen. It’s sad really..it’s fun to watch everybody go batshit crazy with joy..but unfortunately a lot of people use it as an excuse to be destructive or steal shit. It could be worse..they could build moats around the field like they do at soccer stadiums

    • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2012 at 1:09 pm |

      Things really did not tighten up until after the 1986 Eastern Division clinching..I was there..the field got ripped up pretty good..

      My friend Eric was there, too. Instead of tearing up the field, he went straight for the bullpen and got behind the wheel of the bullpen buggy for a photo-op:

    • mike 2 | June 4, 2012 at 1:34 pm |

      My recollection is the same. I distinctly remember Reggie heading back out to play the last inning in the field with a helmet and the bedlam after the last out.


    • Valjean | June 4, 2012 at 5:23 pm |

      I share your sadness and sentiments. I think growing up with sports in the ’70s — with all the various incidents mentioned in the comments today, “good” and “bad” — softened me up to fans storming the field, especially in baseball.

      I remember the 1980 WS all too well: the Phils winning it all for the first time in forever … and the field looking like something out of a fascist state: mounted police (perfectly spaced, every 50 feet or so) in full regalia, guard dogs, the works. Tug & Co. jumped up and down on the mound, but the feeling was very weird, even quiet and subdued (at least for Philly fans). Seems like that was when It All Changed — but nostalgia does funny things.

  • ChrisH | June 4, 2012 at 12:59 pm |

    Raphael Diaz, as selfish and stupid as his actions were, is no Chad Kohl.
    You might be wondering who the heck Chad Kohl is.
    His was perhaps the dumbest and most dangerous act of fan mischief at a major sporting event:


    • SoCalDrew | June 4, 2012 at 1:21 pm |

      I dunno, Emily Davison deserves a mention… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Davison

    • Mark W | June 4, 2012 at 3:25 pm |

      The arson felony seems excessive.

      • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 6:37 pm |

        I don’t think so. At 100mph cars are extremely dangerous & highly flammable.

        • Phil Hecken | June 4, 2012 at 7:52 pm |

          “At 100mph cars are extremely dangerous & highly flammable.”


          and i think that is the reason about 99% of people watch racing

        • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 9:54 pm |

          “and i think that is the reason about 99% of people watch racing”

          I thought it was all the left turns. WTF do I know.

        • Phil Hecken | June 4, 2012 at 10:01 pm |

          im pretty sure that on any given day, someone has better than a 50% chance of dying in a fiery blaze…

          what else would make anyone watch?

  • mike 2 | June 4, 2012 at 1:39 pm |

    As somebody said upthread, this usually doesn’t happen in hockey for obvious reasons.

    I was at a game here in Calgary about ten years ago where one moron found out why. He found out how slippery ice is, knocked himself unconscious and had to be taken off on a backboard.



  • Christopher F. | June 4, 2012 at 1:45 pm |

    When the White Sox clinched the division in 1983, fans ran onto the field. It was clearly expected and tolerated because security roped off the infield. At least that’s my recollection.

    • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 2:01 pm |


      They need to rebuild that stadium.

      • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 2:06 pm |

        @ 2:51 Watch out, Tony! That asshole is going to fire you on 06/19/86!

  • Pat C. | June 4, 2012 at 1:56 pm |

    Could this many people even get on a field anymore? Totally unreal

    • Pat C. | June 4, 2012 at 1:58 pm |

      plus some great Uni’s on display

    • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 2:10 pm |

      Steve Dahl, Jay Mariotti & Hawk Harrelson: the Unholy Trinity.

    • Jim Vilk | June 4, 2012 at 4:23 pm |

      There was nothing wrong with disco. Worst promotion ever.

      • concealed78 | June 4, 2012 at 4:43 pm |

        “There was nothing wrong with disco”

        You lost me there, Jim. Disco will always suck.

      • JTH | June 4, 2012 at 4:54 pm |

        Jim, I believe this comment calls for one of these.

        • Phil Hecken | June 4, 2012 at 7:53 pm |

          I believe this comment calls for one of these.


          i see what you did there

          well played, sir

        • Jim Vilk | June 4, 2012 at 10:11 pm |

          My day is complete now.

          Lemme guess…you guys don’t like Manilow either?

        • JTH | June 4, 2012 at 11:32 pm |

          I don’t even know how to respond to that. I guess I’ll have to make do with this.

        • Jim Vilk | June 4, 2012 at 11:43 pm |

          Wow. I never saw that show. I see why, now.

          Guilty pleasure of yours, or did you just stumble across that on youtube?

        • JTH | June 4, 2012 at 11:53 pm |


    • Kyle Allebach | June 4, 2012 at 4:42 pm |

      When do we get Dubstep Demolition Night? Bring in your iPod/laptop full of Dupstep songs (pirated, of course), and we’ll destroy it. Tickets are still full price.

      /What happened to if you don’t like it don’t listen to it?

  • Brock | June 4, 2012 at 2:12 pm |

    Orlando Hudson of the White sox is a double flapper.

  • bob | June 4, 2012 at 2:24 pm |

    If you are looking for a (moderate) hockey example, the 1981 Islanders had quite a few fans storm the ice after game 5 against the North Stars.

  • Todd | June 4, 2012 at 3:40 pm |

    Apologies if this has been mentioned before, but:

    Royals C Brayan Pena goes double-flapped.

    Royals 2B Johnny Giovatella went gloveless when he was first called up, but has since switched back.

  • Graf Zeppelin | June 4, 2012 at 3:40 pm |

    OK, I saw a cardboard standee at Dunkin Donuts this morning, showing Terry Collins and Joe Girardi in their respective home pinstriped unis. I just saw a commercial on TV with the two of them similarly attired.

    Maybe it’s me, but the uniform Collins is wearing appears to be white, rather than off-white. I noticed it on the standee, and the TV commercial looks that way as well.

    Anybody else see this?

    • Mike Engle | June 4, 2012 at 4:58 pm |

      I was in a NY-area DD lately too, and I can confirm that it’s not just your eyes. Terry Collins’ pinstriped uniform looks awfully white, not creamy. But it’s all good, since there’s no black!

  • Mark W | June 4, 2012 at 3:54 pm |

    Giants announcer is Duane Kuiper (not Kiper). No relation to Mel.

  • Jim from Arkansas | June 4, 2012 at 4:37 pm |

    A better look at Arkansas’ white and black (puke!) jerseys.



  • TA | June 4, 2012 at 4:43 pm |

    The last World Series with a field invasion was Detroit in 1984, which carried over to a riot in the city. I believe there was a concerted effort to end that tradition in Kansas City in 1985 and New York in 1986.

  • 1vox | June 4, 2012 at 4:44 pm |

    don’t know if anyone has mentioned it yet (man, there is a shitload of comments/opinions on this story), but fox sports is reporting that rafael diaz not only missed his son’s birthday party, but is also “banned from Mets home games for life.”


  • Eric C. | June 4, 2012 at 5:18 pm |

    Didn’t see any mention of Arkanas’ new uniforms (supposedly)

    Red, Gray (black), & White with alternate helmets also.


  • Derek | June 4, 2012 at 5:38 pm |

    The Twins should stick with the classic “TC” logo’d hats. The “M” is pretty lame.

    • Phil Hecken | June 4, 2012 at 7:55 pm |

      good luck with that

      the twinkies have a way of winning in their shittiest uniforms

      • Jim Vilk | June 4, 2012 at 10:08 pm |

        That explains why they never won anything in their Best. Unis. Ever.

        • Jim Vilk | June 4, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
        • Phil Hecken | June 4, 2012 at 10:11 pm |

          it’s scary how much we’re agreeing lately

        • Jim Vilk | June 4, 2012 at 10:12 pm |

          Except when it comes to disco…

        • Phil Hecken | June 4, 2012 at 10:19 pm |

          “Except when it comes to disco…”


          where did that come from?

        • Jim Vilk | June 4, 2012 at 10:26 pm |

          Scroll up.

        • concealed78 | June 5, 2012 at 11:14 am |

          “I said, Best. Unis. Ever.”

          (in Al Borland voice) I don’t think so, Jim.

  • Matt McLaughlin | June 4, 2012 at 6:09 pm |

    Johnny Giavotella started the year barehanded (when he was called up), but then after losing his bat twice in one at bat returned to wearing gloves a few weeks ago.

  • Patrick_in_MI | June 4, 2012 at 8:10 pm |

    I seem to recall Carlos Guillen wearing his back pockets inside-out and subsequently being told not to or risk fines, etc.

    Edit…story from 2007 here, with pic:


  • Oakville Endive | June 4, 2012 at 8:30 pm |

    The baseball draft tracker on CNNSI has the old Jays logo, it gave me the hee-bee jee-bees seeing it again.

  • Ryan B. | June 4, 2012 at 10:23 pm |

    Here’s an interesting thought. I can’t find a screen grab, but Carlos Correa was selected 1st in the MLB Draft by the Houston Astros. He posed with Bud Selig wearing the black Astros cap and holding up the pinstriped home Astros jersey.

    Correa will NEVER wear this uniform, as the Astros are rebranding for next season.

    Can anyone else think of other instances like this (due to redesign, etc.–I don’t think the image of Eli Manning in a Chargers hat counts, for example)?

    • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2012 at 11:45 pm |

      The Bills’ first draft pick prior to their retro redesign was in the same boat. I’m sure there have been others.

      • Phil Hecken | June 5, 2012 at 12:00 am |
  • DJMFF9 | June 4, 2012 at 10:30 pm |

    I haven’t read all the comments – but someone may want to tell that dude to go back to that thrift store cuz that looks like a game-used NFLPA 1982 strike season helmet …

  • teamo bigg | June 6, 2012 at 5:12 am |

    …dude notified.

  • Donald Buhl | June 7, 2012 at 4:32 am |

    Orlando Hudson of the White Sox goes double flaps.

  • Chad | June 8, 2012 at 10:12 am |

    Not sure if it matters since he’s a pitcher, but the Reds’ Homer Bailey doesn’t wear batting gloves