‘It was a pleasure to meet me’: C-Town Party Report

At longtime readers may recall, three years ago I attended the “Super Flush” event, in which a select group of Mets fans got to test the toilets for the team’s new stadium. Each of us was given a Super Flush T-shirt, but the tees were all XL, so I put mine up for sale on eBay, where it sold for, I believe, $49.

Last Tuesday night I had an odd reunion of sorts with that T-shirt, because Brad Francis — the eBay bidder who bought it from me back in 2009 — wore it to the Uni Watch party in Cleveland (for all of these photos, you can click to see a larger version):


Kind of surreal. Brad, who drove three and a half hours to attend the party (and who was wearing the Super Flush tee underneath a Penguins jersey), was part of a small but enthusiastic group that gathered together at Prosperity last Tuesday. And he wasn’t the only one who drove a long way to get there — also on hand was Doug Keklak, who came in from the Steel City and wore this bitchin’ Pittsburgh Condors T-shirt and a Pittsburg State cap:


Kek was accompanied by fellow Yinzer Ryan Connelly, who wore an Indians jersey (when in Rome, right?) and an Invaders cap of his own design, both of which looked swell as he and I engaged in a bit of arcade bowling:




Yes, I did a really shitty job of fixing the red-eye factor in those pics, but whaddaya gonna do.

Here’s Matt Soja, who wore a simple but very nice Browns windbreaker:


Slightly bolder, but still with that sense of elemental simplicity, was Rodney Gallaway and his Cavs T-shirt, which he said was from roughly 1985:


Next up: Mr. “5 +1” and “I’d Wear That” himself, Jim Vilk, who looked sharp in his Baltimore Blast tee and official Uni Watch stirrups (although I don’t know about those red sannies):



I’m not sure how this happened, but I somehow neglected to take any pics of my good friend and former intern Vince Grzegorek (sorry, buddy — serious blunder on my part). I did, however, get a shot of his friend Aaron Sechrist, who works with Vince at Scene, Cleveland’s alt-weekly paper:


I’ve saved the best for last. The two guys you see below are Chris Tletski (in the Avangard Omsk Russian hockey jersey) and Gene Biros (in the plain gray pullover):



Why were Chris and Gene the best? Because they both brought a stash of jerseys for show-and-tell. As the evening unfolded, it was almost like a game of “I’ll see ya and raise ya!,” as the two of them kept trying to top each other by pulling new jerseys out of their respective goodie bags while the rest of us oohed and ahhed:








Those last three photos show the Browns’ short-lived orange-numbered brown jersey (which was only worn during the 1984 preseason, after which the numbers were changed to white, because the orange numbers were too hard to read from the stands and the pressbox) and its white counterpart (which, to my knowledge, was never worn on the field, even during the preseason). Very nice bits of Cleveland uni esoterica right there.

As always, my thanks to everyone who attended — it’s always a privilege to meet the Uni Watch readership. Hope you all had as much fun as I did. Meanwhile, I had another blog-worthy experience while I was in Cleveland — one that I’ll be describing in detail shortly (maybe as soon as tomorrow).


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Collector’s Corner

By Brinke Guthrie

At Paul’s suggestion, I’m taking a detour from eBay this week take a look at the sports-related offerings on Etsy. Unlike eBay, Etsy doesn’t do auctions — the seller just picks a set price [and you can sometimes dicker ”” PL]. Note: If you’re using the site’s search function to search on “baseball,” or whatever, be sure to use the drop-down menu to specify that you’re searching on “Vintage.”

Okay, here’s a good sampling of what I found:

• Nice Mariners Starter jacket. What’s the era for that M’s logo?

• Fantastic logos on this 1970s NHL pillowcase.

• Never seen one of these before! A gray Champion sweatshirt with the old MLB Diamond Collection logo. I’d buy this in a second if it fit me.

• Here’s a complete set of AFC West beer mugs! Or maybe just get the entire league.

• Here’s a weird one: MLB concrete baseballs (or basketballs, your pick).

• We’ve got a 1970s Steve Bartkowski NFLPA T-shirt, brought to you by Coca-Cola.

• Classic-looking 1960s 49ers bobblehead. These Packers
and Bears guys are in super shape, too.

These 1970s Seattle Seahawks suspenders will hold things up rather nicely.

• Love the traditional look to this 1980s Cleveland Browns T-shirt from Champion. Pair it with this Russell Athletic hoodie!

Seen something on eBay or Etsy (or anywhere else) that you think would make good Collector’s Corner fodder? Send your submissions here.

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Designer label clothing — literally: As longtime readers are aware, I’m a big fan of vintage clothing labels. It recently occurred to me that these old clothing tags could form the basis for a good line of T-shirts, so I’ve taken the most sports-centric ones in my collection and done just that. Here’s what I’ve set up so far:

Ruby’s: The late, lamented sporting goods king of Rochester, where Terry Proctor used to work. Awesome label design.

Puckmaster: Even if you’re not a hockey fan, you have to love this one.

Fenton’s: I don’t know much about this shop, but I really like that script logo.

Pace-Setter: Not often that you see thoroughbred racing depicted on a clothing label. This one might look better on a black tee, which you can choose as one of the many options that Zazzle offers.

Exec-U-Line: This one isn’t sports-related — I just like the label design and thought it’d make a good T-shirt.

In case you want to revisit these later on, they’re all available in the Uni Watch shop on Zazzle. I hope to be adding more label designs soon — stay tuned.

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Uni Watch News Ticker: Major news on the stirrups front as Josh Outman has been traded, which means nobody will be wearing the A’s yellow sannies this year. … Jacksonville QB Blaine Gabbert has seen next season’s Jags uniforms and he likes them. Now, keep in mind that Jags equipment manager Drew Hampton has already stated that the team’s 2012 uniform won’t have any design changes, so I’m not sure what Gabbert means by “new uni’s” [sic], aside from “I’m spreading the Nike gospel cuz that’s what they want me to do” (from Patrick Sokolowski). … For years people have been sending me the photo of these two WVU players. I suspect that will now be supplanted by this Ole Miss hoops shot. … A recruit visiting Mississippi State tweeted this uniform image. “Chest logo and pant logo are the same one on the ‘Battle for the Golden Egg 2011’ unis,” notes Alec Romanoff. “Probably just a mock-up. No rumors on new unis, but also no changes in three years.” … In a vaguely related item, a Pitt football player has tweeted a photo of a gold jersey. Not clear if it’s slated for on-field use (from J. Sebastian Smelko). … Here’s a look at someone’s extensive sports patch collection. Good stuff. … Northwestern hoops wore black at home on Saturday (from Bob Morgan). … Crystal Palace is letting season ticket holders vote on the team’s new crest (from Scott Schroder). … Matt Holt recented visited the North Carolina Sports Hall of Fame, where he saw this old N.C. State letterman sweater and a Jim Valvano warm-up suit. … Not sure how I’ve never seen this shot of the Giants’ 1986 linebackers dressed as Superman. Or would that be Supermen? Either way, Andy Headen gets docked a few points for not wearing blue socks (great find by Josh Neisler). … James Laky notes that several Giants players, including FB Henry Hinosky, had two snap clips on their lower chinstrap. I’ve asked Joe Skiba for more info on this. … “In case you forgot that Novak Djokovic won the Australian Open, Wimbledon, and the U.S. Open in 2011, he’s reminding you on his shoes,” says Brinke. “Never seen different Slam icons on the same shoe before.” … Also from Brinke: a site about logos that I hadn’t seen before. … Here’s a video clip about the Pistons’ newly remodeled locker room (from Nick Phillips). … When the Dodgers won the N.L. pennant in 1966, they received team-branded Rolex watches instead of rings. The one in those photos belonged to pitcher Jim Brewer (from Paul Hirsch). … “The Dartmouth women’s hockey team played Providence at Fenway Park last weekend,” says Tris Wykes. “Walking out to the ice, some players wore traditional skate guards and some simply wrapped old hockey socks around their skates and blades.” … Marquette and Louisville went color-on-color yesterday (from Will McGillis). … Douochebaggery alert: Missouri hoops coach Frank Haith was wearing a swoosh lapel pin yesterday (from Riley Danford). … Dig this: A company called Perfect Compass had a baseball team, and look at their chest logo. Scroll down for a close-up. ”¦ A new inaugural-season stadium logo for the Marlins is floating around. Not sure yet if it’s legit. No sign of it in the MLB Style Guide, although that doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t the real deal. ”¦ Tyler Kepner pointed me toward this video of John Lennon wearing an Easton High School baseball jersey on The Mike Douglas Show. Ebbets Field Flannels even sells a repro of the jersey! “I don’t know why he would have worn an Easton jersey,” says Tyler. “Maybe because the show was filmed in Philadelphia, it was lying around, or someone asked him. But as a Beatles fan and a baseball nut, I’d love to hear the story behind it.” Anyone know more? ”¦ Justin Forres found this rather amusing Lightning sweater at a Goodwill shop. ”¦ With Valentine’s Day fast approaching, we could all do a lot worse than to receive this on Feb. 14. ”¦ This is sort of funny but also sort of fascinating: David Lipscomb University is lettering fans vote on whether they should change the school’s team name from “Bisons” to “Bison.” No word on whether the Maple Leafs are pondering a change to Maple Leaves (from Lee David Wilds). ”¦ New 60th-anniversary patch for the Billings Mustangs (from Alan Poff). ”¦ The Rangers are awarding a beat-up fedora as an in-house postgame award (from Mike McLaughlin).

114 comments to ‘It was a pleasure to meet me’: C-Town Party Report

  • JamesP. | January 17, 2012 at 7:34 am |

    Jerry had a blog entry about the Lennon Easton jersey: http://flannelofthemonth.blogspot.com/2009/10/imagine-john-lennon-jersey.html

    • teenchy | January 17, 2012 at 8:28 am |

      Speaking of Jerry: I don’t mean to be a wet blanket but isn’t Stall and Dean still a going concern? At one time they had merged with/acquired EFF, but a visit to their website suggests that S&D may now be an EFF brand.

  • Dumb Guy | January 17, 2012 at 8:12 am |

    I think it would be Supermans. Like Goldmans or Zimmeremans. (not Goldmen or Zimmermen). Or maybe it should say “each is dressed like Superman”. or I need coffee now.

    • The Jeff | January 17, 2012 at 8:38 am |

      Well the S was just his family crest, wasn’t it? So let’s just say they’re Krytonians.

    • Craig D | January 17, 2012 at 11:09 am |

      That would be a good redesign for Supes himself. Ditch the red undies and blue tights. Wear white knickers and pair them with blue boots. Ok I am putting way too much thought into this.

  • Andy L. | January 17, 2012 at 8:16 am |

    That M’s logo looks like it’s late ’80s. I remember it when I went saw 4 games against Minnesota in my first visit to the Metrodome in August of ’87.

    • Ryan B | January 17, 2012 at 8:27 am |

      Yep – 1987-1992 for that Mariners jacket.

      • concealed78 | January 17, 2012 at 9:24 am |

        That was from Jr. Griffey’s rookie era. Was all over the place back in the day.

        Speaking of the Jr/surname topic from yesterday, did anybody stop calling him “Cal Ripken Jr.” once his father passed away? It just seems strange to suddenly stop saying “Ripken Jr” or “Griffey Jr”, and I think not him calling “Tony Gynnn Jr” could lead to quick confusion if not done in the proper context. Plus you never know, his old man could end up back in MLB someday.

      • remarkablyadept | January 17, 2012 at 1:33 pm |

        Yep. The Langston Years. Otherwise known as the “Buy a ticket for the 300 level, sit anywhere you like” years.

      • lemonverbena | January 17, 2012 at 7:46 pm |

        Randy Johnson in the away grays from the M’s ball-logo era: http://marinersblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/johnson_283061.jpg?w=444&h=661

  • Dumb Guy | January 17, 2012 at 8:29 am |

    Are Vilk’s stirrups on backwards?

    • Jim Vilk | January 17, 2012 at 1:53 pm |

      Could be. I just took the best-looking ends and wore those in the front.

      And the Twins hat (mesh-back and adjustable, naturally) was a shout out to Ricko. You were there in spirit, good sir.

  • Paul Lukas | January 17, 2012 at 8:33 am |

    This year just keeps getting better and better:

    • Silver Creek Dawg | January 17, 2012 at 1:07 pm |

      Is that sarcasm on your part Paul?

      I kinda like Lewin; he’s a homer, but in a knowledgeable way.

      • Paul Lukas | January 17, 2012 at 1:57 pm |

        What sarcasm? My favorite two teams are about to play each other for a chance to go to the Super Bowl, and my most hated broadcaster is about to replaced. And the year has barely started!

  • Juke Early | January 17, 2012 at 8:44 am |

    About that John Lennon/Mike Douglas show. I know that currently there seems to be a mystery as to why the Easton baseball shirt. I recall watching it that day & wishing I could get one, or at least my old HS uni back to use on my own gigs. I can say that there was a used clothing store not far from the WCAU studios. They weren’t labeled “vintage” yet. Always a chance Lennon saw it, bought it & wore it that day. A few years later I lived in Bucks County & kept trying to get one, but failed to find one. I can’t afford Ebbets stuff — but it is one of the great looking uni tops & 100% accurate of that era when I played HS ball.

  • Bchamp | January 17, 2012 at 8:47 am |

    My guess would be that Gabbert is talking about the Mizzou uniforms.

    • The Jeff | January 17, 2012 at 8:55 am |

      Or he could be talking about how they fit/feel.

      He says they’ll “be nice”, he doesn’t say they “look nice”.

    • Dante | January 17, 2012 at 11:44 am |

      Looking at the EM’s tweets is somewhat confusing. In one tweet he says there will be no design changes, but in the next one he says there will be.

  • Kevin Poss | January 17, 2012 at 9:01 am |

    Re: the Browns’ orange-numbered unis.. did you mean to say they changed the numbers to BROWN (not white)? White #s on white jersey would be mighty hard to read from the press box; possibly even harder than orange-on-white ;)

    • Tom V. | January 17, 2012 at 9:07 am |

      I had to read it twice too. It says the “orange numbered brown jersey” (first of three pics) had the numbers changed to white. The orange numbered white jerseys (2nd and 3rd pics) were never worn on field.

      • Andy | January 17, 2012 at 9:35 am |

        Correct. The orange-numbered white jerseys were switched over to brown numbers before ever being worn, as far as I can tell.

  • Kevin Poss | January 17, 2012 at 9:03 am |

    Or were you referring to just the actual brown (the color) jersey? Sorry, maybe I was confused..

  • Flip | January 17, 2012 at 9:05 am |

    Other than the too-large chest logo, what’s not to like about those Mississippi State football unis?

    • Chris Holder | January 17, 2012 at 9:28 am |

      I like the design in theory, it the logo just does NOTHING for me. Something about its shape just doesn’t work on a football jersey. I’m not sure if any of the MSU logos would look better, though. Hey… this would probably still be an improvement over what they’re wearing now. And this would be infinity times better than that black jersey they occasionally break out. Yeesh.

      Meanwhile, that gold Pitt jersey? BYOO-TEE-FULL. If only that blue was a bit of a lighter shade. They should wear that instead of white on the road.

  • Kevin Poss | January 17, 2012 at 9:06 am |

    Yep, just re-read the whole paragraph.. a thousand apologies. Its early, I don’t have my glasses on, yadda, yadda, yadda haha.. I’m an idiot.

  • UpJohnDikeNovels | January 17, 2012 at 9:20 am |
  • JamesP. | January 17, 2012 at 9:23 am |

    I think I know the Easton and Lennon connection. Tom Dawes and Don Dannemann of the 60s group The Cyrkle ( #1 hit “Red Rubber Ball”) graduated from Easton and John Lennon actually named their group “the Cyrkle”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cyrkle

  • Mark K | January 17, 2012 at 9:28 am |

    Always loved that Baltimore Blast logo.

  • Brett | January 17, 2012 at 9:46 am |

    University of Manitoba is also nicknamed the “Bisons”

  • Bernard | January 17, 2012 at 9:56 am |

    Paul- is the size of the print on the designer label shirts a deliberate choice, to be more label-y, or were you limited size-wise by how much distortion you would accept as the images were expanded?

    • Paul Lukas | January 17, 2012 at 10:05 am |

      A little bit of both. They’re actually fairly big on the shirt!

      • Bernard | January 17, 2012 at 10:14 am |

        Gotcha. I think the Ruby’s, Puckmaster and Fenton’s designs would look really good expanded over the entire chest, but I also understand the limitations of distortion.

        • Paul Lukas | January 17, 2012 at 10:23 am |

          Looks like someone already bought a Puckmaster this morning — very cool!

  • Matt S | January 17, 2012 at 9:59 am |

    Today, while half-asleep, I was surprised/alarmed to see a photo of myself making an unintentionally funny face on UniWatch… Vanity aside though, the important part was that Paul got a good shot of my Browns jacket.

    Otherwise, it was good to meet Paul, Vince, Vilk, and the other uniwatchers that congregated in Cleveland last week. I’m not much of a poster, more of a lurker, but I’ve been lurking since pre-blog and it was neat to put some faces to the names, not to mention seeing those great ’84 orange-numbered Browns jerseys which, for me, are the Holy Grail of Cleveland uni-ism.

    • Jim Vilk | January 17, 2012 at 3:03 pm |

      Good to meet you, too, Matt!

    • LMK | January 18, 2012 at 12:41 am |

      I love your jacket, along with those orange numbered jerseys! Where’d you find it at?

  • traxel | January 17, 2012 at 10:03 am |

    Looks like a fun time in Cleveland. Wish I coulda been there. Never expected to see Ryco in anything native of that city but I guess the Pirates don’t have the hate for the Indians like the Steelers have for the Browns.

    No H in the Kansas version of Pittsburg. I was verifying this fact when I found some interesting Pittsburgh PA info on the Wiki…

    “Perhaps the most familiar reference to the Pittsburg spelling is on the renowned 1909 T-206 baseball card of Pittsburgh Pirates legend Honus Wagner, printed two years before the spelling of the city was reverted to Pittsburgh. Its scarcity, even at the time, combined with Wagner’s reputation as one of the greatest players in baseball history, made it the most valuable sports card of all time, with one pristine specimen yielding $2.8 million at auction.[11] It has been characterized as the “Holy Grail” of baseball cards.[12] The Pirates’ uniforms of the time displayed “PITTSBURG” across the chest. The portrait of Wagner makes it appear as if there could be an H on the end, cut off by the border of the picture, but the caption beneath it is “WAGNER, PITTSBURG”, confirming that the omission of the H was intentional.”


    • LarryB | January 17, 2012 at 4:49 pm |

      I always enjoy reading about the get togethers. I hope to make one some day. Cleveland or Pittsburgh are about same distance away from me.

      Nice to see the Pittsburgh guys make the trip over.

  • Joseph Gerard | January 17, 2012 at 10:18 am |

    1. Pittsburg State is in Pittsburg, Kansas. Not a Pittsburgh (notice the “H”)-related uni-item.

    2. While on the subject of Cleveland, I saw that the “White at home in the NFL” project updated the page to say that the Browns wore their white unis at home in 2011, but it left out that the brown jerseys weren’t worn at all (except in preseason, which doesn’t count) this past season. Just an FYI.

    • Kek | January 17, 2012 at 3:00 pm |

      Yeah, I’m aware of it being Pittsburg State and from Kansas (also, do you know how hard it is for someone from Pittsburgh to type any place that ends in “burg” without instinctively adding the “h”?! I can’t tell you how many times I’ve typed “Harrisburgh” or “Hollidaysburgh” only to have to correct!). A couple of notes on that hat:

      1. I’ve always been fond of the Gorillas and known them to at times be a D2 power. Mainly from following IUP and some other local D2 schools. I also can remember when Kendall Gammon was the longsnapper for the Steelers and going to training camp and hearing him tell fans he played at Pittsburg State in Kansas.

      2. I always wanted some kind of Pitt State gear…years ago I came across one of those old Bar caps by “The Game” that said GORILLAS across it. Always been bummed I passed on that one.

      3. I found the hat I have on a few months ago at a TJ Maxx in Johnstown and cracked up. It seemed to me that someone bought these hats and thought they were for Pitt then noticed they were RED!!!! It was originally tagged at $18, then marked down to $6.99 and finally, what I got it for: $3. Couldn’t pass it up. It’s Adidas and has the nice, golf-style closure rather than velcro or snapback. And I failed to show for the cameras, the boss Gorilla head on the back (this logo: http://www.sportsblink.com/product_images/pittsburg-state-gorillas-wool-team-color-one-fit-hat-3178055.jpg).

      4. Last and certainly not least, it just seemed to go well with the Condors shirt, the red and yellow really popped off, at least I think!

      • ryanat | January 17, 2012 at 8:43 pm |

        I’m a Pitt State grad, cover the Gorillas for the nearby Joplin (Mo.) Globe and live just south of Pittsburg. I’ll gladly hook you up with some Pittsburg State national championship gear from this season.

        • Kek | January 18, 2012 at 9:39 am |

          ryanat, i’d be glad to take you up on that! go to my link to my website, you’ll be able to find my email address from that.

    • jdreyfuss | January 17, 2012 at 4:56 pm |

      Pittsburg, Texas also leaves off the H. Incidentally, there’s a Cleveland, Texas and the two high schools are rivals.

    • timmy b | January 17, 2012 at 8:16 pm |

      I will submit a post season update to Paul after the Super Bowl, which will include the Browns 100% white in 2011 in the footnotes.

      • Phil Hecken | January 17, 2012 at 8:39 pm |

        best looking white home uniform in the bigs

  • Rob S | January 17, 2012 at 10:24 am |

    Wow. Looking through that logo site… and it’d be a great site if not for several entries being riddled with factual errors (usually dealing with dates). The best era for the Steelers was the 1960s? WHAT???

    Plus, what the crap is going on with that collection of logos on the front page?

    • Rob S | January 17, 2012 at 10:27 am |

      Oh, and they’re “astroids”, not “asteroids”.

      Then there’s the Eagles page, which suggests they’ve had the midnight green since 1960, and then later calls the color used in the logo “blue”.


  • John Przebieglec | January 17, 2012 at 10:35 am |

    The M’s logo on the Jacket is circa 1987-1991, replaced by the current logo.

  • interlockingtc | January 17, 2012 at 10:43 am |

    Love that Perfect Compass logo!

    • Paul Lukas | January 17, 2012 at 10:52 am |

      Ha! I knew you’d like that one, Jim….

  • Russ | January 17, 2012 at 11:10 am |

    Awesome jerseys Chris! Love the Port Adelaide.

  • Richard Weis | January 17, 2012 at 12:00 pm |

    The Amherst Fenton’s was just down the street from the bike shop I used to work at, next to Bruno’s pizza. I bought my 175g Frisbee there, and got my skates sharpened occasionally. They closed in Amherst probably 15 years ago, and the storefront is now a hippy-dippy day spa.

    The Emily Dickinson home is diagonally across the intersection.

    • Fred | January 17, 2012 at 3:19 pm |

      Got my first football cup and my lacrosse gear at Fenton’s. It was a nice little mom n pop shop but I didn’t realize that the spa is the one that replaced it. Always thought it was the bike store?

      • Richard Weis | January 17, 2012 at 7:37 pm |

        Fenton’s was at 377 Main; Valley Bicycles was at 319 Main, and went out of business a few years later. Amherst is nothing but spas, bars, and bookstores at this point.

  • Kyle Allebach #school | January 17, 2012 at 12:07 pm |

    I love those Browns jersey’s with the orange numbers. They should have kept them.

    • Gusto44 | January 17, 2012 at 12:14 pm |

      You have to wonder if those 1984 uniforms would have met a different fate if the Browns had kept them for the 1985-89 playoff run. If nothing else, those uniforms would have made a fine alternate.

    • The Jeff | January 17, 2012 at 1:21 pm |

      I still don’t buy the “too hard to read” excuse for changing the numbers. The Lions had silver numbers on their blue jerseys for decades, and there’s less contrast there than the orange on brown. The orange on brown would also be rather close to the gold on black of the Saints, and I’ve never seen anyone complain about reading that.

      I think it was just Browns fans whining because the jersey was different than what Jim Brown wore.

      • Andy | January 17, 2012 at 1:37 pm |

        Two separate events. The numerals were changes at the request of the spotters and press box folk. The uniforms were scrapped at the request of the fans.

      • Ricko | January 17, 2012 at 1:39 pm |

        How ’bout “not as easy” to read as the white on brown, or the brown on white?
        Cuz that would be true.
        And therefore valid.

        • Arr Scott | January 17, 2012 at 4:49 pm |

          True. But I wonder whether the same reaction would have happened today, when HD video makes close colors much easier for fans (and any officials watching a screen) to differentiate.

        • Phil Hecken | January 17, 2012 at 8:42 pm |

          “How ’bout “not as easy” to read as the white on brown, or the brown on white?
          Cuz that would be true.
          And therefore valid.”


          i move that from now on all numbers be larger than they are, and all jerseys be black with white numbers or white with black numbers

          after all, some of us still watch on black & white 12″ tv’s with antennae and snow

          /what, we don’t?
          //how bout unis just look good then


          on another note, there was no reason to go with orange numbers either on the homes or roads

          but that’s no reason to hate them…

        • Ricko | January 17, 2012 at 9:39 pm |

          Not nice to words in someone’s mouth.
          Just said the white likely was easier to read than the orange on the brown background, which it is.

          That was the subject up for discussion. That decision made at that time.

          Of course (as some here are wont to point out endlessly), why so much orange? The Browns had recently changed back to white pants, and perhaps they thought that combined with orange helmets it was just too much emphasis on orange.

        • Phil Hecken | January 17, 2012 at 10:09 pm |

          totally agree the orange wasn’t necessary

          the uniform is/was perfect with white numbers on brown jerseys and brown numbers on white shirts

          my point was that there is no difficulty reading the orange numbers

          but that is no reason to have them (meant so say “have” not “hate” above, btw, although i guess hate works too)

          sometimes you don’t fuck with perfection…but legibility issues don’t come into play…if some new team wanted orange #’s on brown (or white), those would have been fine…on the browns?


      • walter | January 17, 2012 at 4:45 pm |

        The orange-numbered jerseys are eye-popping and beautiful; that said, form needs to follow function on the gridiron. I wish I had a dime for every time a snazzy design for a football uniform got shot down over the need for high-contrast color. In a perfect world, the Raiders would put silver numerals on their white shirts. But you and I know football graphics serve their purpose best using their darkest color vs. white, and vice versa. That’s simply a real-world consideration.


  • Mark K | January 17, 2012 at 12:14 pm |


    • Paul Lukas | January 17, 2012 at 12:29 pm |

      Thanks. Now fixed.

  • StLMarty | January 17, 2012 at 12:16 pm |

    Is that a Replacements reference? Pleased to Meet Me was the first thing that came to mind.

    • Paul Lukas | January 17, 2012 at 12:29 pm |

      Private joke between myself and one of the attendees.

  • Rob S | January 17, 2012 at 12:42 pm |

    So, Paul, considering joining in on the SOPA Strike tomorrow?

    • Paul Lukas | January 17, 2012 at 1:02 pm |

      You’ll have to wait and see, won’t you….

  • Zach Rieger | January 17, 2012 at 12:57 pm |


    I’m wondering if anyone has made mention of this yet. I was watching the Michigan v. Ohio State hockey game from the Jake and I noticed that although Michigan is an adidas school and has worn adidas in the past (ie Big Chill at the Big House) they were wearing reebok uni’s this year http://www.greenwichtime.com/sports/article/Ohio-State-and-Michigan-face-off-outdoors-2550943.php#photo-2073952 is this new for this year?


    • DJ | January 17, 2012 at 2:41 pm |

      At least three Adidas schools (Michigan, Notre Dame, and Wisconsin) are wearing Reebok hockey gear this season — uniforms and equipment. The uniforms are the Reebok Edge types worn by the NHL. Reebok is, of course, owned by Adidas.

      Other Adidas schools, such as Nebraska-Omaha and Western Michigan, may also be involved.

  • Michael Emody | January 17, 2012 at 1:02 pm |

    From Famous logo’s web page:
    “The Philadelphia Eagles was established in 1933. It is a famous American football team with headquarters based in Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. After the merger of National Football League (NFL) with American Football League in 1970, Philadelphia Eagles joined the East Division of the National Football Conference (NFC). The merger was prompted when the Frankford Yellow Jackets, Philadelphia’s chief representative in the NFL, went bust.”

    I almost bookmarked their site. Phew.

    And while I’m being a snarky critic, the Ebbets Field/Easton jersey: um, why is the patch so… off? What does the back half of the Ebbets Field rendition look like? I guess there are no answers to this. Ok, no answer to the first question. Aaahhh… walking into a thrift shop and buying a cool jersey for less than the price of a lid… nice.

    Anyone care to try and contact Yoko Ono? She might remember the story, and might actually speak with Uni Watch. The worst that can happen is: she ignores you.

    On the positive side: hearing John Lennon first thing in the morning: nice x 2.

  • JTH | January 17, 2012 at 1:23 pm |

    Regarding the use of “[sic]” when quoting Gabbert’s tweet: isn’t the apostrophe in “uni’s” technically correct since it could be considered a contraction of “uniforms” rather than an actual plural noun?

    • Paul Lukas | January 17, 2012 at 1:32 pm |

      Sure — if we routinely used the term uni’ (singular) instead of uni.

      But we don’t.

      • JTH | January 17, 2012 at 1:43 pm |

        Can you be sure that he doesn’t?

        • jdreyfuss | January 17, 2012 at 5:12 pm |

          It’s not a matter of the person’s preference. Grammar rules in general are in place to standardize common usage. Since apostrophe usage can have two disparate meanings (contraction or possession), and the majority standard is to use the apostrophe only for possession, it’s not a matter of preference.

  • Freeb | January 17, 2012 at 1:50 pm |

    Watched The Battle Of The Network Stars last night from 1977.

    The comedians/actors/writers from the old “three major networks” were squaring off in athletic competition wearing some pretty gaudy gear from Head.

    CBS looked like something out of the Houston Astros — indeed, the men’s tennis shirts looked like something the Astros baseball team would start wearing in 1980 — the rainbows on the sleeves and a solid body.

    I wonder how many nips Howard Cosell and Telly Savalas had before they went on the air ….

    • Ricko | January 17, 2012 at 2:01 pm |

      Three things I remember from that series…

      Linda Carter in a clingy one-piece swimsuit.
      Tom Selleck making some diving catches in a touch football game.

      • Gusto44 | January 17, 2012 at 2:07 pm |

        And Robert Conrad went ballistic over some event, he didn’t appear to be acting, either.

    • Mike 2 | January 17, 2012 at 4:17 pm |

      Battle of the Network Stars – I think this clip has just about everything.


    • pushbutton | January 17, 2012 at 4:49 pm |

      “I believe that the Battle Of The Network Stars should be fought with guns.”

      -Steve Martin

  • Freeb | January 17, 2012 at 1:50 pm |

    (it was on ESPN Classic)

  • hodges14 | January 17, 2012 at 2:08 pm |

    I would love for there to be a Uni Watch Party in DC in the spring. Is that a possibility?

  • Wheels | January 17, 2012 at 2:08 pm |

    That navy blue Indians pullover is so cool.

    • walter | January 17, 2012 at 4:27 pm |

      Those half-blue/half-white Indians’ uniforms are one of my favorite things about the 1970s. The team was lousy, the stadium was a mess, but they *looked* great!


    • Arr Scott | January 17, 2012 at 4:51 pm |

      Easily my favorite now-unused script in baseball.

    • jdreyfuss | January 17, 2012 at 5:13 pm |

      They should go back to the caveman C. I like the block C, but it’s not distinctive at all.

      • SoCalDrew | January 17, 2012 at 10:47 pm |

        “They should go back to the caveman C. I like the block C, but it’s not distinctive at all.”


  • Chris Hilf | January 17, 2012 at 2:44 pm |

    Pitt wore gold football jerseys in the past:
    But they weren’t introduced with the current uni redesign.
    Also, Cam Saddler mentioned in a radio interview in February of 2011 that Pitt would have Oregon-like uni combinations under Todd Graham, but that never happened.

    • Kek | January 17, 2012 at 4:09 pm |

      Yeah, that version of the gold uni was no good…I do remember them going with a gold over blue for one game, pretty sure I have a photo at home.

      Paul Zeise, the PG beat writer, mentioned in a chat that they have the white-blue-gold in jerseys and pants (in this generation of the uniform) but this is the first photographic evidence I’ve seen of it.

      I remember Saddler saying that stuff, then backpedalling a little on twitter. I think had Graham stuck around he would have made some of those changes/additions….and I guess he’s at a great school for it now as Arizona State started the mix and match business this year.

  • DJ | January 17, 2012 at 3:04 pm |

    New athletic logo for Loyola University Chicago:


    Also in Chicago, the Chicago Fire of MLS announced a multi-year jersey sponsorship deal with Chicago-based Quaker (as in Quaker Oats).

  • Elliott Josypenko | January 17, 2012 at 3:48 pm |

    I’m a Crystal Palace fan from England, and there’s actually even more to this story than it says in the ticker.

    In August, the club did a vote for members and ST holders, and everyone complained, and so the owners said they would have a rethink.

    On the clubs forum (the largest club football forum in England) there were hundreds of designs from supporters, many of whom are graphic designers.

    And so, now they have come back with 6 designs, ALL DESIGNED BY SUPPORTERS.

    I think that this is unique. A professional soccer club (ranked around the 30th best in England to get some context) who will have a club logo designed by a fan.

  • Jonathan Goupil | January 17, 2012 at 4:37 pm |

    Don’t have time to go through all the comments above, so maybe this was posted before…

    After Slovenia skier Tina Maze got 2nd place in a race last weekend, swiss team protested she was wearing an illegal long underwear (containing ”too much” plastic fibers!) which gave her an aerodynamic advantage. She responded this weekend after her 3rd place finish in an unexpected fashion…

    I’ll let you look at it, as my words won’t quite tell it right.


  • Jonathan Goupil | January 17, 2012 at 4:43 pm |

    Now you got the story, but not th picture… Damn it!

    About this one


    • Paul Lukas | January 17, 2012 at 4:58 pm |

      Too bad the “Not” reads like “Hot.”

      Execution, execution, execution….

    • jdreyfuss | January 17, 2012 at 5:32 pm |

      Either way, we lost the original headline, which given the original story’s URL was apparently “Slovenian Skier Strips to Deliver Message in Underwear Flap,” which I nominate for headline of the month.

      • Jonathan Goupil | January 17, 2012 at 6:36 pm |

        Great headline indeed!

    • Phil Hecken | January 17, 2012 at 8:47 pm |

      i’d wear that

  • CrazyAnna | January 17, 2012 at 6:44 pm |

    I believe Gabbert was talking about the Jaguars new black alternate that is going to be worn during the 2012 season.

  • Patrick_in_MI | January 17, 2012 at 7:18 pm |

    Typical etsy stuff, overpriced! http://www.etsy.com/listing/82614026/nfl-drinking-glasses-complete-set-of-afc?ref=sr_gallery_3&sref=&ga_search_submit=&ga_search_query=vintage+MLB&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_ship_to=US&ga_page=10&ga_search_type=all&ga_facet=
    I have several of these glass tankards (Cowboys, Seahawks, Redskins, Raiders) I found at the local thrift store for $2.99 each. I also have a bunch of other NFL glassware, should probably send in some photos of my collection.

    • Gordon | January 19, 2012 at 6:43 pm |

      My family has the Seahawks tankard. That complete AFC West set is missing its 5th team from the 1980s (AFC West: 1978 – 2001; NFC West: 1976, 2002 – present).

  • Wheels | January 17, 2012 at 7:36 pm |

    I’m thinking about getting the Baltimore Elite Giants 1949 road jersey from Ebbets Field Flannels, or maybe the Buffalo Bisons jersey… they’re both only 99 bucks. Lots of other good ones too. Any thoughts?



  • Pat | January 17, 2012 at 8:38 pm |

    Chicago Fire get new kits and a new kit sponsor. They had previously had Best Buy as a sponsor but went sponsorless last year. They now have Quaker Oats as their sponsor. New kits look nice. The change kit has a nice homage to the flag of Chicago in the small stripes. You can see it if you click on the drawing of the uni.

    • DJ | January 17, 2012 at 9:05 pm |

      One of the ways you can tell if an MLS jersey is an authentic (as opposed to a replica) is the presence of the team’s logo, wordmark, or motto on the back of the neck. Last year the Fire went with their fireman’s badge on the back; this year, they go with the club motto “Tradition, Honor, Passion” in their club script. Very nice.