Monday Morning Uni Watch


Uni Watch intern emeritus Vince Grzegorek, shown at right, was in town over the weekend, so we got together yesterday to watch some football, shoot some pool, and drink some beers (not necessarily in that order). At one point I mentioned how it’s almost become a job requirement for NFL coaches to be unlikeable control-freak pricks, whereupon Vince said, “What about Lovie Smith?” And it’s true: Lovie Smith appears, at least on the surface, to project an air of quiet, mature authority that’s rare in today’s NFL. Looks swell in that cap, too. I’d have a beer with Lovie Smith; I’d have a meal with Lovie Smith; I’d go fishing with Lovie Smith. Hell, I’ll go further: Lovie Smith for President! He can’t possibly be worse than anyone else who’s running.

As for yesterday’s uni-related developments:

• The Falcons wore their throwbacks, complete with the gold helmet stripes. If only they could wear that outfit every week.

• The Packers wore their “Acme Packers” throwbacks, which included a cool patch on Mike McCarthy’s jacket. Throwback cheerleading outfits, too. Very, very nice. (As an aside, at one point Rams radio broadcaster D’Marco Farr said, “We need to send a note to the league — no more yellow shoes! I keep seeing flags on the field, and it turns out its just Packer feet!”)

• The Pats wore white at home, forcing the Cowboys to wear their rarely seen blue jerseys.

•  The Bears have the best uniforms in the league — or they did, until several of their defensive backs decided to pink up their socks.

• The Bengals wore their orange alternates looked like shit, as usual.

•  I’m sure all our military personnel appreciate that Vikings lineman Anthony Herrera wears camouflage underwear.

•  Meanwhile, Herrera’s teammate Cedric Griffin wore BFBS socks.

• I know Al Davis was an important guy and all, but this is a bit much.

• Turning to Saturday’s college action, Florida running back Chris Rainey had his uni number ripped off of his back.

• When Maryland unveiled their new uni set back in August, the red jerseys had a gradation on the uni numbers. But not anymore. Legibility wins out over flash, imagine that.

• Speaking of Maryland, the problem with matte helmet finishes is that you end up with situations like this.

• Saturday was Dan “Boom” Herron’s first game of the year for Ohio State (he’d been sitting out a suspension). So why did he already have a few buckeye decals?

• And in D2 action, Slippery Rock has worn this jersey — with no logo creep! — for decades. But on Saturday they went BFBS, with logo creep to boot.

• And of course there was a lot of additional NCAA coverage in yesterday’s post.

(My thanks to all contributors, including Tim Burke, Hal Gordon, Nick Orban, Nick Schmidt, Zack Tanner, Jim Walaitis, David Westfall

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Uni Watch News Ticker: What do Todd Radom, Joan Rivers, and I have in common? We all appeared — albeit just barely in my case — in last Saturday’s College GameDay. ”¦ Word through the grapevine is that the two NFL teams that’ll be getting big Nike makeovers next season are the Seahawks and Panthers. … Everyone knows a basketball team can’t survive with only three uniforms, so Oklahoma State has added a gray one (from Arin Mitchell). … I’m still calling it Arrowhead. ”¦ Two design contests: one for a Canadian lacrosse league and one for a minor league basketball team (from Mike Sullivan and Joel Hackler, respectively). … Here’s an in-depth look at the new Easton Raptor lacrosse helmet. “Everyone and their little brother is dying for that helmet these days,” says Jeff Brunelle). … Now that’s a football uniform. Ian Wallace spotted that magazine cover illustration in the middle of an NFL Films video. Looks like a rather fanciful notion of a college all-star uni. … Chuck Berry sang the national anthem prior to Game 5 of the NLCS, and he had a killer jersey for the occasion (from Caleb Yorks). ”¦ New LeBron sneakers for Miami, Kentucky, and Ohio State. … What is this? It’s a Brian Wilson jack-o-lantern stencil (thanks, Brinke). … Pretty good MLB infographic here (from Don Gale). … Latest NHL memorials for the Russian plan crash: a Ruslan Salei jersey patch for the Ducks and a helmet decal for the Sharks. ”¦ RNOB alert! That’s John White IV of Utah (screen shot by Rob Ullman). … “The broadcast team at the Texas/Oklahoma State game was talking about OSU end Jamie Blatnick,” says James McNamara. “They mentioned that he’s a Texas native and considered going to Texas A&M, but decided against it because he didn’t like the maroon uniforms.” … The South African cricket team is sponsored by Castle Lager beer — except for Hashim Amla, whose jersey is sponsor-free. “Amla is a devout Muslim and thus objects to wearing the logo,” explains Daniel McLaughlin. … In a vaguely related item, Michael Orr reports the following: “Weird occurrence in the A-League this week as Central Coast Mariners’ Rostyn Griffiths started the game with a shirt that had a sponsor and finished it wearing a shirt without one. ”¦ Saw the tremendous London band Yuck on Friday night. If you’re not familiar with them, you can hear their entire self-titled album here. … Why would a St. Louis Blues sweatshirt have an NFL tag? Brent Bollmeier spotted that a Blues shop. ”¦ Interesting article on the marketing and pink-branding of breast cancer, plus an NPR segment on pink fatigue. ”¦ Here’s a entertaining and comprehensive view of the history, pros, and cons of wearing goggles during clubhouse celebrations. … Someone has created a line of clothing specifically for people with Down syndrome. … Inside info from Kevin Wilson, who writes: “According to a friend of mine playing for Northwestern, Adidas is planning a surprise uniform for the Wildcats just like they did for Michigan’s game against Michigan State. The uniforms are going to be worn against Penn State this upcoming Saturday, and as of last week the students were still left in the dark at to what they will look like.” ”¦ No photo, but an interesting tidbit from Brian Klejsmyt: “In Saturday night’s hockey game between Western Michigan and Union College, I noticed that Union goalie Troy Grosenick had half-circles cut into the back of his hockey pants, behind the knee and right at the hemline.” ”¦ When Yuniesky Betancourt batted in the bottom of the 9th during last night’s Brewers/Cards game, his back shirttail was completely untucked. Not a good way to end the season.

161 comments to Monday Morning Uni Watch

  • Kyle Allebach @ School | October 17, 2011 at 8:06 am |

    So now it’s the cool thing to surprise everyone with new jerseys? It’s better than making everything gray, I suppose…

  • Pierre | October 17, 2011 at 8:09 am |

    A few observations about NFL unis this weekend:

    1. The Buffalo Bills look like the Buffalo Bills again.

    2. The Atlanta Falcons throwbacks should be their regular uniforms…and the thin gold stripes on their helmets are a nice detail.

    3. The Detroit Lions uniforms have grown on me…except for the black trim. If the designer believed a darker accent trim was absolutely necessary, why not navy blue for the trim instead of black?

    4. The St. Louis Rams and the Colorado State Rams both have rams horns on their helmets. Colorado State’s rams horns are fixed at a cool angle. St. Louis’…not so much.

    5. The New Orleans Saints uniforms look so much better in natural sunlight than in the artificial light of the Superdome.

    • The Jeff | October 17, 2011 at 8:16 am |

      1. The Bills look too much like the Colts. I’m sure it’s due to my age, but I think Buffalo should be a red helmet team. In Madden I play them with their 90’s helmets on the current uniforms. It’s a much better look, IMO.

      2. The Falcons should just bring back the black jerseys that the current uniform started with and switch the helmet to red. No need for a total throwback. The gold stripes and gray facemask are lame.

      I don’t really have any comments on the rest…

      • Kyle Allebach @ School | October 17, 2011 at 8:18 am |

        I’m glad I’m not the only one who loves the Bills red helmets.

      • Pierre | October 17, 2011 at 9:02 am |

        The current Falcons uniforms have always reminded me of something a lower division college team might wear…not befitting a professional franchise.

        • Flip | October 17, 2011 at 9:58 am |

          Where’s that “like” button?

      • christian | October 17, 2011 at 9:17 pm |

        THANK YOU. I’ve always thought that the Bills should have a white helmet to go along with the red helmet before their uniform change. Now they just need to bring the red helmets back every once in a while.

      • Attila Szendrodi | October 18, 2011 at 2:25 am |

        They wouldnt look like the Colts if they wore blue pants. Just sayin…

    • Kyle Allebach @ School | October 17, 2011 at 8:16 am |

      I love the D-Lions unis. Maybe black isn’t a good color for them, but they needed a darker color with those polyester jerseys.

      (I for one like the black for the Lions. The only thing I would fix is the number font and maybe the facemask but overall I love the uni)

      • AnthonyTX | October 17, 2011 at 11:40 am |

        Agreed. They need to change that facemask to blue and fix the number font, but otherwise it’s pretty nice.

    • Dumb Guy | October 17, 2011 at 8:45 am |

      Love the Falcons throwbacks.

      Hard for me to look at Throwback uniforms sometimes when 2 foot dreds/hir/braids are hanging out the back.

  • Andrew McCarthy | October 17, 2011 at 8:22 am |

    Saw the same thing on Boom Herrons helmet…Mike Adams had 4 as well when he returned from suspension last week.I know they get awarded “team” stickers for such things as wins, winning the turnover margain,etc. Thats the only thing I could think of.

    • Scott @ WFNY | October 17, 2011 at 9:29 am |

      Yeah, the entire team gets a leaf for a win; that’s where Boom got his two.

      • Andy | October 17, 2011 at 11:19 am |

        Except the Buckeyes were 3-3 before Saturday.

  • Don S | October 17, 2011 at 8:30 am |

    I don’t know about that eternal flame for Al Davis……whose picking up the cost of the gas?

    • Rob H. | October 17, 2011 at 8:53 am |

      Yeah, when you said…

      I know Al Davis was an important guy and all, but this is a bit much.

      …I thought it would be a pic of John Madden lighting the flame. It looked like they were starting the Olympics.

      • Paul Lukas | October 17, 2011 at 8:55 am |

        Well, that wasn’t uni-related, so I didn’t go there. The cheerleaders’ uniforms, however…..

    • Pierre | October 17, 2011 at 10:10 am |

      Are they going to move the eternal flame to L.A. along with the team…?

      • The Jeff | October 17, 2011 at 10:40 am |

        It’s like the Olympic Torch. It’s always lit somewhere…

        • Pierre | October 17, 2011 at 10:57 am |

          Yea…they could do a torch relay down the Pacific Coast Highway.

  • Rob H. | October 17, 2011 at 8:55 am |

    Also, what do we call the Chuck Berry NOB? TABNOB? (Top and bottom name on back?)

    • R.S. Rogers | October 17, 2011 at 9:40 am |

      Further suggestions …

      SLOB: SLogan On Back
      RATN: Ring-Around-The-Number
      EOTN: Eye Of The Number
      Going Full Circle
      OUNOB: Over-Under NOB

    • Ben Fortney | October 17, 2011 at 10:15 am |

      HTOB – Honorary Title on Back

  • Geeman | October 17, 2011 at 9:01 am |

    College football uniforms:

    I can’t tell who’s playing anymore. I thought Iowa was playing last week when Maryland showed up in black and gold. And Michigan State looked like Notre Dame.

    Oregon’s uniforms looked great, but no school colors. They looked more like Oklahoma State — but wait, Oklahoma State’s colors are black and orange, not black and grey.

    Thumbs up on Michigan’s unis.

    • The Jeff | October 17, 2011 at 9:10 am |

      And Michigan State looked like Notre Dame

      I’m sorry, but what? When the hell have Notre Dame ever worn black pants? Michigan State may not have exactly looked like themselves, but they sure as hell didn’t look like Notre Dame.

      • Pierre | October 17, 2011 at 9:13 am |

        The green an gold (bronze?) color scheme is what I thought he meant…

        • R.S. Rogers | October 17, 2011 at 9:42 am |

          Fair enough in terms of general concept, but the point remains: Notre Dame has never looked anything like what MSU looked like on the field Saturday.

        • Pierre | October 17, 2011 at 9:52 am |

          I doubt if Michigan State has either…but I could envision a Notre Dame Nike Pro Combat uniform looking like the unis Michigan State wore Saturday.

        • The Jeff | October 17, 2011 at 9:57 am |

          Nah man… Notre Dame Pro Combat uniforms would be all about the shamrocks. Gold helmet with the green shamrock, green jerseys with white shamrocks on the shoulders, sublimated shamrocks in the numbers… but they wouldn’t go to black.

        • Pierre | October 17, 2011 at 10:00 am |

          Jeff…we are talking about Nike, right? I think your vision is way too tasteful and subdued. ;>)

        • The Jeff | October 17, 2011 at 10:10 am |

          As a counterpoint, I would like to point out Oregon State’s Pro Combat uniform of 2 years ago… and the fact that Penn State, the most plain uniform in all of NCAA football, is also a Nike uniform.

          As much as we might want to hate Nike, they do seem to be capable of both extremes – the ultra-modern and the ultra-conservative.

        • Pierre | October 17, 2011 at 10:13 am |

          Jeff, your $100 Nike gift certificate is in the mail…and go online to fill out a brief survey and get 10% off your next purchase. ;>)

          Seriously…Nike is miles ahead of Under Armour in aesthetics. I joke about Nike but, actually, I like some of their stuff.

        • Geeman | October 17, 2011 at 10:29 am |

          From the waist up, it was Notre Dame.

        • Andy | October 17, 2011 at 11:26 am |

          Nike is not capable of both extremes. No one is, as far as collegiate sports identity goes. The only reason Penn State looks the way they do is because they make the rules in their situation (i.e. they respect themselves and their fans, past and present). No one in the industry would even think of designing a brand new uniform that looks like Penn State’s if given free creative reign. Not Nike, not adidas, no one. The only way those types of uniforms happen are by special requests from the schools, and at that point it becomes, “Do we want the money and the exposure of being the official outfitter of Penn State, or do we want to dump them and give our money to someone who appreciates our super-genius, extra-progressive, ultra-creative, uber-futuristic designs?”

        • Pierre | October 17, 2011 at 11:37 am |

          I am not at liberty to say who told me this, but someone I know in a collegiate athletic department alleges that while a Nike college head coach may approve a certain design or concept for a special Nike uniform, Nike often takes the liberty of adding flourishes which it then tries to push past the coach after the fact.

      • The Jeff | October 17, 2011 at 11:35 am |

        Well of course they wouldn’t design that. There’s no designing involved. Penn State’s uniforms are a blank template. You start with that, then add your modifications.

        But the point was that they can supply/produce it. They can give you plain like Penn State or they can give you total randomness ala Oregon, or anything in between.

    • MPowers1634 | October 17, 2011 at 9:22 am |

      Well said!

  • Johnny O | October 17, 2011 at 9:03 am |

    While I am a fan of the Packer throwbacks, I can’t get past the fact that all of their throwback merchandise has an establishment date of 1921. Even the Packers official website says they were founded in 1919. I understand that 1921 is when the Packers joined the APFA (later to become the NFL) but when the established date is 1919, it should stay 1919.

    • Jeff | October 17, 2011 at 9:36 am |

      The NFL defines its own reality. Kinda like “The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.” “When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.” Another example: Curly Lambeau wasn’t the Packers’ coach until 1922 — he was only their captain from 1919 to 1921 — but he still is considered the coach. You won’t find the names of Bill Ryan, Jack Dalton or Joe Hoeffel anywhere.

      • Pierre | October 17, 2011 at 9:38 am |

        Wait…you mean Vince Lombardi wasn’t the founder of the Green Bay Packers? ;>)

        • The Jeff | October 17, 2011 at 9:50 am |

          You could say the same thing for the Raiders. You’d think Al Davis founded the team. It’s like 1960-62 didn’t happen.

        • Pierre | October 17, 2011 at 9:53 am |

          Didn’t Al Davis work as a ballboy on the original Packers team…? ;>)

        • Ricko | October 17, 2011 at 11:12 am |

          The Raiders were literally on the verge of moving or folding when Davis came to town. Lousy team, lousy field, lousy attendance. First two seasons played more games at Kezar or Candlestick than they played actually IN Oakland. When in Oakland played at Frank Youell Field. A high school field. Bleachers up from each sideline, no endzone seating.

          Given what they became under Davis’ leadership, his lofty position in the minds of the organization and fans probably is justified.

          Looking back on it, it’s entirely accurate to believe, “No Al Davis, no Raiders.” Not in Oakland, anyway.

        • Pierre | October 17, 2011 at 11:19 am |

          I can’t wait for Ghost Adventures to investigate the Raiders training facility. I’m sure they’ll pick up some EVPs (Electronic Voice Phenomenon) of Al Davis’ spirit. I just wonder what Al will say about Jamarcus Russell.

        • Ricko | October 17, 2011 at 11:38 am |
        • Ricko | October 17, 2011 at 11:39 am |

          And I guess there was a bit of end zone seating after all.

    • teenchy | October 17, 2011 at 10:20 am |

      Certainly not as egregious as any Washington Nationals apparel featuring the phrase “Established 1905.” :rolleyes:

    • Nicole | October 18, 2011 at 12:47 am |

      I just like that the Packers have always embraced the Acme Packers foundation. Long before they were wearing these throwback unis, you could buy Acme Packers stuff at Lambeau Field. There’s actually a smaller store separate from the main team store that sells all kinds of throwback-looking stuff with the Acme Packers name and logo on it.

  • Connie | October 17, 2011 at 9:06 am |

    Bills looked great, helmets included.

    That’s a shame about Slippery Rock.

    I’m working on Yuck, Paul, but it’s a job.

    • Shane | October 17, 2011 at 9:49 am |

      Their album seemed really all-over-the-place to me, but “The Wall” is a great track.

  • Rob S | October 17, 2011 at 9:08 am |

    The Cowboys with their own special deal – that would explain why they’ve got the pinkest of the NFL team websites.

  • MPowers1634 | October 17, 2011 at 9:10 am |

    I loved Michigans unis the other day.

    As for the NFL: I agree with Paul that many of the Bears ruined the best look in pro football.

    As for the pink accessories…I am done with them. Enough already.

    I officiated three AM FB games yesterday and then did a 3PM 16 and Under BB game where many of the players were wearing pink arm sleeves, wristbands, and shoelaces. I did not like them to say the least.

  • Bernard | October 17, 2011 at 9:11 am |

    Maryland’s uniforms are still horrendous, but kudos to them for making those numbers solid white (turtle shell), at least for this week. I am of the opinion that gradation has no business on athletic uniforms, anywhere, ever.

    • Andy | October 17, 2011 at 11:30 am |

      I wouldn’t go that extreme, but certainly you can’t go very far with gradation before it becomes quite tacky.

  • Bill | October 17, 2011 at 9:16 am |


    @UniViolation It’s pretty obvious that the Skins’ John Beck holds a second job as a mechanic when not at Redskins Park.!/@univiolation

  • Jeff | October 17, 2011 at 9:38 am |

    I don’t believe the unis worn by Sunday by the Packers’ cheerleaders are throwbacks in the sense of something special for that day. They wear those all the time. They may, of course, be throwbacks in the sense that no other NFL team dresses cheerleaders like that.

    • Pierre | October 17, 2011 at 9:59 am |

      Maybe teams should be required to hire throwback cheerleaders whenever they wear throwback uniforms…you know, for the sake of authenticity. ;>)

    • Colin | October 17, 2011 at 10:38 am |

      Jeff, you are 100% right. That is what they always wear.

    • NE | October 17, 2011 at 2:23 pm |

      you are correct, and correct

  • interlockingtc | October 17, 2011 at 9:39 am |

    What if every athlete, regardless of his or her religious beliefs–or lack of–objected to wearing sponsor patches on his or her uniform?

    • Paul Lukas | October 17, 2011 at 9:41 am |

      “Occupy the Clubhouse,” eh?

      Seriously: I assume every pro contract includes boilerplate language about having to wear whatever the team issues to you.

      • R.S. Rogers | October 17, 2011 at 9:44 am |

        No doubt true, and yet look at all the non-uniform crap that teams let their players get away with. Seems like a player can basically wear whatever the heck he wants, however the heck he wants to wear it, just so long as certain manufacturer/sponsor logos remain clearly visible.

        • R.S. Rogers | October 17, 2011 at 9:46 am |

          PS: Not arguing with Paul here, just griping about the state of the world today. Damn kids! Get off my lawn!

      • jdreyfuss | October 17, 2011 at 12:50 pm |

        It usually goes further than simply “you wear what the team issues you.” In the MLS and the NBA, the only reason you can give to not wear Adidas gear is if you have an endorsement contract with another company.

        It’s an interesting concession that a Muslim player was allowed to object to a jersey sponsor on religious grounds. It brings up two questions for me:

        1. Who pays the liquidated damages? Does the team pay the sponsor out of pocket or does the player have language in his contract acknowledging that he objects to sponsors whose product isn’t Halal and is willing to give up that portion of his base salary to leave his jersey blank?

        2. Would a team grant the same concession to a member of another religion with dietary restrictions, like a Jew or a Mormon? How about someone who morally objects to a sponsor on other grounds that aren’t necessarily protected by discrimination laws?

  • jwc | October 17, 2011 at 9:49 am |

    The “cuts” in the goalie pants sound like they’re probably just from skate blades. If you ever put your hockey pants on after your skates, or take ’em down to use the bathroom it is easy to get caught on your blades. If they were cleanly cut, I’d say he trimmed the frays off. Just my thoughts.

    • Ben | October 17, 2011 at 10:01 am |

      No, its for “mobility” a good number of goalie pants come with them pre-cut.

      • jwc | October 17, 2011 at 11:37 am |

        Oh, duh.

      • Ed Hughes | October 17, 2011 at 1:11 pm |

        I’m a (rec) hockey goalie and my pants have cuts something like that, in the same location. They came like that from the manufacturer. I’d always assumed that they let the pant leg expand when you drop down on your knees to stop a shot, preventing the pant from riding up and potentially exposing your quad to the puck (that REALLY hurts). The front of the pant leg isn’t going to expand at all since it’s filled with rigid pads. The back doesn’t have pads at all in the legs.

  • Kek | October 17, 2011 at 10:15 am |

    Wait, I’m still confused, Jim Harbaugh leaps and skips across the field like some preening twentysomething prick and handles the postgame handshake with about as much class [enter unclassy thing here] and Schwartz is the bad guy?

    • Paul Lukas | October 17, 2011 at 10:24 am |

      They both acted like 12-yr-olds.

      I ask you: Would Lovie Smith ever do that? Nope.

      Lovie Smith for President!

      • Geeman | October 17, 2011 at 10:30 am |

        You are right and he is a class act, but you are forgetting Jim Caldwell too.

        • Ricko | October 17, 2011 at 10:44 am |

          Man, Jerry Glanville just gets NO love at all, does he.

        • Tim E. O'B | October 17, 2011 at 12:10 pm |

          “You are right and he is a class act, but you are forgetting Jim Caldwell too.”

          Paul was talking about NFL head coaches, just because Manning is hurt doesn’t make him any less of the Head Coach of that football team.


      • Johnny O | October 17, 2011 at 10:51 am |

        No love for the charismatic, jolly, and endearing Mike McCarthy? I am a fan of Lovie Smith as a person/coach, but as the coach of the Bears, and being a Packer fan, I can’t get on the “Lovie for President” bandwagon.

      • pushbutton | October 17, 2011 at 11:31 am |

        Lovie’s cool but I have a bone to pick.

        I give Mike Ditka the blame for breaking up what should have been a Bears dynasty by dint of his fragile ego, but there’s one area in which I wish Lovie would emulate him: have those guys act like they’ve been in the endzone before. Lovie is waaaay too tolerant of on-field assholishness (see: Devin Hester penalized 15 yards for triple-somersault, etc.).

        On the Bears I can virtually pinpoint this behavior to Ditka’s exit. It’s always on the head coach.

        • Ricko | October 17, 2011 at 12:03 pm |

          I’ll probably catch all kinds of hell for this, but other than 1985 what evidence of coaching greatness have we ever seen from Ditka?

          He didn’t realize that maybe Payton should have be given the opportunity to score a Super Bowl touchdown. Say what?

          He couldn’t could along with any of his quarterbacks, ever, no matter who it was? Of course not. Quarterbacks get attention and there was only one spotlight on that stage.

        • Tim E. O'B | October 17, 2011 at 12:16 pm |

          Best coaches in bears history:
          1. Hallas
          2. Ditka
          3. Lovie

          Ditka won a super bowl so he’s numero two-o but had lovie won in 06, he’d already be abetter Head Ball Coach than Ditka. Ditka has too much personality to be respected for a long period of time, he’s a flash in the pan, rally the troops type of guy. Eventually that type of coach (esp. with Ditka’s penchant for saying stoopid shit) loses the respect of his players.

          …plus buddy ryan helped.

          But even as good as Lovie is, he still makes terrible clock management decisions multiple times a year and is one of the worse Challengers in all of the NFL. 90% of the time he throws the flag, I’m furious he’s wasting our time and he chooses not to throw the flag on some obvious MFing calls.

        • The Jeff | October 17, 2011 at 12:21 pm |

          I’m sorry Tim, but if you can’t even spell “Halas” properly… your opinion on Bears coaches is completely invalid.

        • Tim E. O'B | October 17, 2011 at 12:46 pm |

          typo. I know how to spell Halas.

      • concealed78 | October 17, 2011 at 1:02 pm |

        I know I don’t speak for all Chicago Bears fans, but I can’t stand Lovie Smith. He runs a woefully outdated Cover-2 scheme, his coaches (especially Martz) are awful, banished Ron Rivera after the Super Bowl so he could bring in his own crud coaches, extremely horrible clock management, an absolute chronic failure when it comes to challenges, mishandling of Devin Hester a few years ago from PR to WR that was a complete waste of time, terrible and beyond slow when it comes to in-game adjustments, stubborn, and his complete lack of any emotion plus GM Jerry Angelo & his craptacular drafts year after year equals one gigantic mess at Halas Hall. They are not the long-term solution of the franchise.

        And no I’m not some biased Ditka fan.

        • JTH | October 17, 2011 at 1:39 pm |

          I’m not saying that Lovie’s hands are totally clean here, but I’m pretty sure the decision to move Hester to offense came from the front office.

        • concealed78 | October 17, 2011 at 2:09 pm |

          It was still dumb. They should have never moved a strength to a weakness. 2008 & 2009 were completely wasted for no good reason.

        • JTH | October 17, 2011 at 2:25 pm |

          I didn’t say it was a good move. Clearly it wasn’t. I’m just saying you can’t really pin the move on Lovie. He’s not the one who gave Hester the big contract and wanted to justify it by making him an every-down player.

        • Csikos | October 17, 2011 at 3:48 pm |

          Took the words right out my mouth. While, based on record, Lovie is a successful coach he seems to be the polar opposite of what was exhibited by Coach Harbaugh and Coach Schwartz. The calm exterior just seems to be something of a “I don’t give a shit” vibe. The stubborn streak, as in “Rex is our Quarterback” and the outright denial of what is actually happening on the field “we get off the bus running the football” just turns me off as a Bears Fan. To bring it to this week…where were all the play calling and line adjustments displayed against the Vikings at halftime last Monday?

    • Pierre | October 17, 2011 at 10:29 am |

      Sean Payton wishes he could run across the field…

    • Ricko | October 17, 2011 at 10:29 am |

      The LAST thing I’d ever be is an apologist for Harbaugh, but at least in his post-game press conference he said it was on him, that he handled the handshake badly, essentially saying he should have calmed himself for that moment and been more professional.

      And, Schwarz? Well, sometimes you just walk away.

      And remember.

      • Kek | October 17, 2011 at 10:43 am |

        He said it with a shit-eating grin on his face and all the sincerity of a guy that was talked to prior to talking with the media.

        You all believe and think what you want, but if he’d done that to my team’s coach, I would have no problem with him handling it the way Schwartz did.

        I was shocked quite frankly at the amount of folks in the media and people in general on twitter that have taken this “they were both at fault” stance. I mean Dungy and Harrison doing a stand-up demonstration of a handshake on the Football Night in America set? You’ve got to be kidding me.

        Paul, I have no idea if Lovie would do that (most likely not) but I totally agree….that “B” hat is badass!

        • Ry Co 40 | October 17, 2011 at 11:21 am |

          win or lose, jog over to the coach, shake his hand, look him in the eye, tell him “great game” “best of luck” whatever. show respect. what Harbaugh did was just embarrassing… and Schwartz reaction wasn’t too far off.

      • Ricko | October 17, 2011 at 10:52 am |

        I’d guess I’d best re-phrase that.
        Harbaugh knew how to “act” afterwards.

        NFL coaches going all “rah-rah” just look stupid.
        Or, in Harbaugh’s case, like they need to be reminded that, no matter how much they may hate it, they ain’t players anymore.

        Side observation. Anyone else noticed how good Eric Mangini is as a talking head? Ordinary (at best so far) coach, but an exceptional analyst. Funny, intelligent, insightful. One of the pleasant surprises of the broadcasting season.

        • jdreyfuss | October 17, 2011 at 12:57 pm |

          You’re right. It’s pretty hard to find guys like Madden or Dickie V that are really good at both. If you’re good at analyzing something from one perspective it doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll be good at analyzing something from another perspective.

          It’s also interesting that Mangini was a mediocre coach first and then became a successful analyst, as opposed to someone like Matt Millen, who became a GM because of his abilities as an analyst and then tanked.

        • corndog | October 17, 2011 at 1:57 pm |

          I agree with you on the Mangini thing. Not a very good coach, but he understands and knows the game better than most.

    • =bg= | October 17, 2011 at 12:22 pm |

      Selective memory here. You refer to harbaugh as such? time to get your facts straight.

      here’s schwartz a week prior.

      all harbaugh did was show emotion after a big win. he ran over, gave him a handshake, and whacked him on the back a bit too hard, schwartz thought it was a shove.

      schwartz was the one that CHASED harbaugh down the field screaming.

      sorry you lost, schwartzy, but you need to show some restraint. you lost, you’re 5-1. better than, oh yeah, 0-16.

      • Ricko | October 17, 2011 at 12:30 pm |

        You referring to something I wrote? Hope not.
        I wasn’t forgiving Schwarz. He’s in the “rah-rah” group.
        I said he should have just walked away.

        And Harbaugh should have composed himself for all of, what, two whole seconds and then gone back to celebrating. Being a professional is more than getting paid for what you do.

        • =bg= | October 17, 2011 at 12:33 pm |

          that was was referencing @kek, and this is too, from Yahoo! Sports:

          ‘Earlier in the game, Harbaugh was penalized 15 yards for an illegal challenge.

          That delighted Schwartz, who was caught by television cameras saying something like “know the rules” toward the 49ers bench. It was hardly the calm behavior of a man who would be aghast later in the game at what he perceived was bad sportsmanship.’

          Personally, I have no problem with JH leaping up and down after a big win on the road vs a (previously) unbeaten team. Schwartz chasing him down the field like a lunatic is another thing.

      • Pat | October 17, 2011 at 3:30 pm |

        Yeah but Harbaugh has a history of being kind of jerk when it comes to coaching etiquette. Just ask Pete Carroll.

        • Jeff | October 17, 2011 at 7:33 pm |

          Why would anybody ask Pete Carroll about anything concerning etiquette?

  • Ricko | October 17, 2011 at 10:18 am |

    Let’s hear it for the talking head who, calling the highlights of Atlanta in their throwbacks, made mention of “Steve Bartkowski.” I’m not certain, but I don’t’ believe Bartkowski ever wore a black jersey with the Falcons. Maybe right at the end of his career. But he was largely the red helmet/red jersey era, and that’s certainly the way I imagine most remember him.

    Also, what’s the over-under on when Brandon Marshall gets ejected tonight?

    • The Jeff | October 17, 2011 at 10:27 am |

      Yeah, he was red all the way. He did wear both white and silver pants though, so I guess that’s something.

    • Graf Zeppelin | October 17, 2011 at 12:26 pm |

      Also, what’s the over-under on when Brandon Marshall gets ejected tonight?

      Before the Jets achieve a first down.

      • jdreyfuss | October 17, 2011 at 1:01 pm |

        He should have been fined for publicly saying he would try to get ejected, but he’ll be gone on the first personal foul since he basically put himself on notice.

        He should have been ejected after going all Boobie Clark on Mike Adams a few weeks ago.

        • corndog | October 17, 2011 at 2:00 pm |

          Personally I think he should have been suspended for this game. Don’t give this guy the thrill of ejecting himself, especially if its going to be something like throwing punches or kicking a guy in the head or something. Sometimes you need to save people from their own stupidity.

      • Ricko | October 17, 2011 at 2:05 pm |

        Has he said he intends to play dirty?

        Sounded more like he said he intends to play with emotion, maybe celebrate something by punting a ball into the stands or something.

        Hey, I’m not defending him, just wanting to be clear on what he said.

      • Graf Zeppelin | October 17, 2011 at 3:18 pm |

        I was actually snarking on the Jets’ alarming three-and-out propensity, but I digress…

  • Jeremiah | October 17, 2011 at 10:25 am |

    Thanks for the tip on Yuck. I loved listening to that this morning.

  • Ben Fortney | October 17, 2011 at 10:25 am |

    Very intrigued by a new Carolina uniform next year. They’re definitely due for an update and they’ve got some good elements to work with. Wish they’d go more Carolina baby blue than the electric shade they have now, but that might be asking too much. (Seahawks was a no-brainer.)

    Granted I didn’t watch them for more than a highlight reel, but I really like the Bengals rocking “traffic cone orange” – looks great on wide shots, contrasted great with Indy white on white.

    Didn’t get my camera out in time, but WMATA buses in #DC have an ad for U of Maryland branded Muscle Milk with the tagline “Look good in a Terps jersey. And out of it.” Provided a bit of levity on my walk to work.

    • Ricko | October 17, 2011 at 11:02 am |

      Only look I really like with the current Bengals uni is what they wore yesterday.

      I’m not going to link to a photo, because everyone should know this anyway: A tiger is an orange and white animal with black stripes. So, if you’re named after a tiger and you chose orange and black as your colors, black maybe should be the accent color, not the lead.

      Plus, the Broncos had eschewed their orange jersey lately, so leading with orange would have made the Bengals one-of-a-kind in the league.

      Not to mention clearly distinguishing them from the Browns. And I’m not saying they “should” do that. Just wishing their decision-makers had thought about it from that angle.

    • Andy | October 17, 2011 at 11:37 am |

      As long as they ditch that awful logo, I’ll be happy. Well, I’ll only be happy id the uniforms don’t suck as well. Who’m I kidding, there’s no way this is going to turn out well.

    • Joseph Gerard | October 17, 2011 at 12:23 pm |

      I’d like to see the Panthers make their blue jerseys their standard jersey and ditch the black jerseys altogether. The makeover should be interesting.

      The Seahawks already announced that they were making over their uniforms next year. Their logo is sticking around.

      I think the Bengals should make their orange jerseys their primary jersey, drop the black one altogether, and use their original black uniforms from 1968-1980 with “BENGALS” on the helmet as their third uniforms.

      The Broncos are going back to orange jerseys next year, but it’s the current design. I’m OK with that. What they need to do is to bring back their AFL Legacy gold throwbacks with the vertically-striped socks as their third uniform.

      And I like the Bills with white helmets. End of story.

      • Kyle Allebach | October 17, 2011 at 3:12 pm |

        I do like the Bengals orange (sans panels), however, seeing that the Bengals have a history wearing black, I’m willing to let it go. Just ditch the white side panels and actually make the NOB plates work on their jerseys, I think you have a decent uniform.

      • interlockingtc | October 17, 2011 at 7:45 pm |

        That orange Bengals jersey is an eyesore.

        This Bengals fan of forty years thinks they got it right the first time…

        …still stunning, still strong.

        • Joseph Gerard | October 17, 2011 at 8:53 pm |

          As a Steelers fan, I have to agree, hence why I want the Bengals to wear those as their third uniform, with the current orange alt becoming their primary home jersey.

      • christian | October 17, 2011 at 9:22 pm |

        The Panthers wear black because panthers are black. Since they have always had black in their color scheme, it’s fine with me if they keep the black jersey as an alternate and keep the Carolina blue as the primary.

        • JTH | October 17, 2011 at 11:32 pm |

          Who gives a shit if panthers are black?

          Broncos and bears wear blue & orange.

          Eagles wear green & silver.

          Lions wear blue & silver.

          Dolphins wear aqua & orange.

          Rams wear blue & gold.

          Et fucking cetera.

    • Pat | October 17, 2011 at 3:36 pm |

      Carolina needs to go all black head-to-toe like a Panther. I’m glad these two teams are getting makeovers. Two of the worst unis in the league in my opinion. Just hoping Nike doesn’t go buckwild with them.

      • JTH | October 17, 2011 at 4:03 pm |

        Carolina needs to go all black head-to-toe like a Panther.”


      • BDanner | October 17, 2011 at 4:44 pm |

        Hate that nike’s gonna screw up the panthers. Their Black/Blue over silver is a great look and i wish they’d wear it more. There is no way that they’re gonna make it thru a Nike makeover and not end up looking like the Jags. And if they go black over black with a black lid, i may have to stop rooting for them all together.

    • nico | October 17, 2011 at 5:37 pm |

      Interesting to see what will happen to the Panthers, especially what will happen to the baywatch woodmark. I have mixed feeling on this one, I like the carolina blue, but a panther should be black…

    • concealed78 | October 17, 2011 at 6:11 pm |

      A new Seahawks uni, eh? Well there’s two ways they could go about this: traditional and clean, or modern & cluttered. As much as I’d hate to see another blue & silver team, I’d much prefer it over say navy & neon green or some uni with neon green dominating.

      I don’t think blue with green dominating would work at all (or even worse, sky blue & forest green). But they’ll probably go with black, dark navy and neon green ::puke

  • Dave Zalatoris | October 17, 2011 at 10:52 am |

    Not uniform related, but I’m sure Mr. Lukas will cringe.

  • All The Way Ray | October 17, 2011 at 12:06 pm |

    I like the basic properties of the Packers throwbacks but not the way the NFL forces teams to bastardize the end products. NNOB would really help.

  • Tim E. O'B | October 17, 2011 at 12:37 pm |

    Once again, I have to be the IU graduate juiced for Northwestern news…

    OK, so this particular news frightens and excites me. For the Black Unis, (against U of I at Wrigley and this year against UM) I predicted NU would wear black because their current jersey set is so similar 95-96 and the black pants were a give away that black was prolly in the makings.

    I went to both black jersey games and wore my actually-from-1995 #24 Darnell Autry black jersey (read: my older brother’s jersey, my children’s size jersey from 95 barely fits but only because I weigh 150 pounds) to both games because I figured NU would want to wear the “tougher” black jerseys (I think this is complete BS, but athletes don’t) for the biggest/primetime games of their seasons.

    So with the Cats in need of a win, and the fact that they only wear white, purple or black and we’ve seen all three of those iterations so far, I can only think of two likely possibilities.

    1. Throwback/Fauxback: I’m ok with this – ) but other than 95-96 or maybe 2000 ( ) I don’t know what you’d throwback to that was a winning era.

    2. Gray Alternate: Wildcats, especially NU’s mascot Willie, are gray. Gray is the new BFBS and I really don’t want the Cats to buy into this fad, but they bought in to BFBS pretty hard in the early 90s when that was just beginning to become popular.

    I could be a third option, but I would be pretty surprised if it isn’t one of those two options.

  • Cordell | October 17, 2011 at 12:37 pm |

    with regards to the PINK in the NFL

    the NFL could do a better/more consistent job if rather than having the players do it piecemeal (some have pink accessories, some do not), the teams did something like PINK yard #’s (10,20,30, etc) or hash marks or TD pylons or goal posts

    heck, the network could use PINK first down lines (or line of scrimmage) for the TV telecast

    this way it would a) be consistent on all games and b) it would be even more visable since there would rarely be a tv shot that wouldn’t have the field in

  • JTH | October 17, 2011 at 1:17 pm |

    Don’t let that taciturn appearance fool you, Paul. Lovie’s a control freak for sure.

    And in response to pushbutton’s comment above about the tolerance of onfield celebrations: Hester scored twice last night. How outlandish were those touchdown celebrations? Did you see Roy Williams doing his first down signals?

    Really, other than that idiotic triple somersault, how often do you see a Bears player going apeshit after a touchdown?

    • Phil Hecken | October 17, 2011 at 2:50 pm |

      well, how often does that actually happen, anyway?

    • Tim E. O'B | October 17, 2011 at 2:55 pm |

      Roy Williams (whom, even though he’s on my team, I LOATH) may have done his first down signals, but NBC seemed to purposefully cut away from him immediately so as to not show it. Which would be awesome.

      • JTH | October 17, 2011 at 3:54 pm |

        There was one time last night where the cameras followed him as he got up and trotted back to the huddle — no first down signal. I think maybe it was after his third catch.

        So maybe they were actually cutting away from him early on but the crew figured that if he didn’t do it after the first two, he wasn’t going to do it at all.

  • Morris Levin | October 17, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
    • Tim E. O'B | October 17, 2011 at 3:02 pm |

      there is no proof these are real. In fact, their presentations make me think that they’re fake. Now they could be based on actual information gathered and could be an excellent hypothesized guess of a jersey, but they’re already wrong because Claude Giroux is not an Alternate Captain.

      Wait and see until the official announcement is the only way to know for sure.

    • Phil Hecken | October 17, 2011 at 3:02 pm |
    • JTH | October 17, 2011 at 3:45 pm |

      Inspired by the old Quakers’ sweaters, no doubt.

      If that’s legit, what a cop-out.

      Something like this would be so much better.

  • Logan | October 17, 2011 at 2:59 pm |

    I have been a reader of this website for a few years now and I have only posted once or twice. I really appreciate all the content presented and find myself noticing uni-notable items when watching sporting events. Couple of things I noticed (though wouldn’t know how to find or link the the website):

    1. Last week the women’s volleyball coach at Tennessee wore those orange pants during their game.

    2. The SF 49ers and Oakland Raiders are very plain in their sporting of the pink accessories this year. Is this left to personal decision or might there have been a directive within the organization?

    3. I think Paul has linked to it before, but NCAA referees are now wearing hats with logo creep on the side. I have seen adidas and nike hats. Does anyone know if their are sponsorship deals with certain conferences for their referees? Has anyone thought about doing a piece on which referees are sponsored by which brand? How that relates to the conference (in terms of geography, # of teams in the conference with that same brand, etc).

  • Joseph Gerard | October 17, 2011 at 3:19 pm |

    I just emailed Paul, I got word from the Steelers store up in Grove City, PA that they team is replacing their throwbacks next season with their 1933 throwbacks they wore back in 1994. God I hope this isn’t true. I’m OK with the current throwbacks being retired. Not so much replacing them with prison uniforms…

  • Kyle Allebach | October 17, 2011 at 3:21 pm |

    So Yahoo! is telling me that the Sixers are playing today.

  • Adam | October 17, 2011 at 5:39 pm |

    RE: Dan Herron’s pride stickers

    My high school did the pride sticker thing, and there were some team achievements (a win, shut-out, no turnovers, and others) that earned everyone a sticker. My guess is that’s what’s up here.

    • Matt Robida | October 17, 2011 at 8:43 pm |

      Yes, I have to agree with Adam on this. It looks like he has three, so he probably has one for every win that Ohio State had.

      I also found this chart of ways for a player to earn a sticker. These are from the Tressel era, but I cant believe that the requirements are that much different.

  • Joel | October 17, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
    • Joel | October 17, 2011 at 5:49 pm |


    • Paul Lukas | October 17, 2011 at 6:01 pm |

      I’ve seen the same reports you have. I’ve heard conflicting things on their legitimacy — some say yes, some say no.

      Bottom line: It’s one fucking game. We’ll all find out what’s legit when they officially announce it. Until then, chill.

      • Shane | October 17, 2011 at 9:46 pm |

        The funny thing is, talking to a Flyers and Rangers fan over the weekend, we speculated, and came up with that white Rangers jersey, almost dead on.


      • JTH | October 17, 2011 at 11:54 pm |

        Bottom line: It’s one fucking game. We’ll all find out what’s legit when they officially announce it. Until then, chill.

        You’re new here, right?

  • Mike N. | October 17, 2011 at 5:53 pm |

    Just found something curious on the Coliseum Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum website. There is an Athletics logo on the main page that has baseball stitching… and as far as I know, that does not exist on any of their current logos. Is this a tweak for 2012, or just an inaccurate rendering?

    • concealed78 | October 18, 2011 at 1:39 pm |

      That logo has been around since at least May of 2007 when I saved these pics. Their former Class-A affiliate Kane County Cougars used that logo too in its promotions. It’s just an alternate logo or two, I guess.

  • nobody | October 17, 2011 at 8:30 pm |

    the first item on this list seems like a worthy reason for a trip to japan. 2 cheeseburger patties, bacon, and chicken breast on a hamburger bun

  • christian | October 17, 2011 at 9:26 pm |

    Wait, since Nike is taking over the NFL next year, does that mean that every team will have the glove thing? IMO, I think those look cool and would look cool for every NFL team.

  • daveclt | October 17, 2011 at 9:47 pm |

    The Panthers could use some tweaks (that shade of blue is awful, helmet stripes are pointless), but I’m worried about the makeover. A team with little history and black already in the color scheme… be afraid.

    I love the all white look with silver helmets. I hope they keep it. It works really well for them, and it’s unique. I don’t think any NFL team has ever gone silver-white-white.

  • Phil Hecken | October 17, 2011 at 9:50 pm |

    a WAAAAAAAYYYY back up a few dozen comments, brinke said:

    Selective memory here. You refer to harbaugh as such? time to get your facts straight.

    here’s schwartz a week prior.

    all harbaugh did was show emotion after a big win. he ran over, gave him a handshake, and whacked him on the back a bit too hard, schwartz thought it was a shove.

    schwartz was the one that CHASED harbaugh down the field screaming.

    sorry you lost, schwartzy, but you need to show some restraint. you lost, you’re 5-1. better than, oh yeah, 0-16.

    don’t be such a niner homer, brink…you’re better than that

  • Terry Mark | October 19, 2011 at 7:23 pm |

    New football helmets for Notre Dame this week vs. USC.

    Brian Kelly still being coy on green jerseys.