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Meet the Nets

Meet the Nets Hed

By Phil Hecken

A few weeks back, I introduced you to Tim E. O’Brien, who brought his vision for a new Oklahoma City Thunder uniform, logos and court.

I’m back with Tim today, and we’re going to learn a bit more about the man behind the designs. He’ll also be bringing us his vision for the Brooklyn Nets, who’ll soon be playing their games a mere stone’s throw from Uni Watch headquarters. If you read “God of Thunder,” or have been checking out the comments, you’ll know Tim’s quite the designer. Today, we’ll take a peek at how he got that way:

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Uni Watch: What’s with the ”˜E.’?

Tim E. O’Brien: Well, there are already a few famous people with my name so it came down to a choice between being professionally known as T.E. O’Brien and Tim E. O’Brien. I chose Tim E. because I feared people would start to call me T.E. rather than Tim, which I prefer, but my professional name now sounds like Timmy O’Brien, so you win some you lose some”¦

UW: How long have you been uni tweaking, and what can you tell me about it?

TEO’B: The earliest I can remember is of drawing new Bears unis when I was a little kid. Think something along the lines of the Denver Broncos circa 1997 redesign (oh the naïvet锦). I got sort of serious about this stuff within the last few months when I started to have more and more free time and less and less work to do.

I think over the years, I’ve gotten a little more classic in my preferences and designs, but I still believe there is a place for the Oregon Ducks and Tennessee Titans of the world.

UW: I first saw your work a couple months ago. What made you start publishing these online?

TEO’B: I started putting my stuff up on my website TimEOBrien.com mostly to show my friends and family but also because my job search was going so badly I wanted to justify how much time I was spending on uni concepts, haha.

UW: What program do you use?

TEO’B: I use Photoshop CS5. Fortunately for me, Indiana University (my alma mater) had a contract with Adobe starting my junior year (about two years ago) where any Journalism school kid could download the Creative Suite programs for free (rather than the thousands they normally cost).

I had a basic knowledge of the program from some classes I took but I’ve learned a lot from online tutorials and podcasts but mostly from just fooling around with it.

UW: How did you find Uni Watch?

TEO’B: I don’t even remember the first time I saw Paul’s column on ESPN, but that’s where I found it. As I recall this was pre uniwatchblog.com. I have always obsessed over jerseys and fonts and patches and stuff but no one else I had known ever audibly mentioned that they felt the same way, so I kinda thought I was alone on this until UW showed me that I was just the tip of the iceberg.

UW: So, what are your favorite teams?

TEO’B: Well, I’m a Chicago boy raised by South Siders (thank god) So I’m a Sox (White not red), Bears, Blackhawks and Bulls fan in the pro ranks. They’re all pretty well dressed although I wish the Sox would reintroduce some red into the color scheme or go nuts and change unis every seven years again (but I understand why they don’t).

As far as college goes, my dad is a Northwestern grad and my family had season tickets to NU football for the better part of my life so they’re a big part of my childhood/fandom. Being that I went to IU, I love me my Hoosier basketball (we can’t be bad forever) and now that Bill Lynch is gone, I’m back to loving my Hoosier football (they might be bad forever).

UW: And what are your favorite current uni sets?

TEO’B: Well, excluding my Chicago teams who all have great uniforms and logos I like really creative logos and bold color choices (like powder blue before powder blue was the new black).

NBA: The Pacers have a classic logo and strong color scheme, I hope they continue to fight off the urge to change their “yellow” to vegas gold (he says while glaring at the Pittsburgh Penguins). Same goes for the Warriors.

NHL: The Wild’s logo is amazing, one of the best in sports and that’s saying a lot. Is it a bear or a panther? All I know is that when I finally realized the mouth was a river I had to change my shorts.

UW: I’m not going there.

TEO’B: MLB: This is tough because baseball uniforms in general all kind of look the same, but (and this pisses off my Cub fan brother) I do love the old Brewers ‘Mb’ mitt logo and the unabashed reasonableness of their old blue and “yellow” shades (stop with the navy and metallic gold). Currently? Say what you will about the overt racism, but the Indians just look good.

NFL: Charger powder blues. They should be the best home uniform in the NFL.

UW: Thanks Tim! Now, on to your latest creations. Brooklyn in the house.

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The New Nets
By Tim E. O’Brien

The Nets are on the move. Not only do they now have players people know and respect but they are also about to move to Brooklyn from a place that gets no respect.

Since the team is moving, the New Jersey Nets must change their Identity to the Brooklyn Nets. And when is there a better time to change you visual identity then with a move?

As I do before most of my rebrands, I try to take a look into the history of the organization I’m dealing with to see if any good ideas have been thrown away.

Uh, yeah, there were some great ideas.

But the Nets have honored their ABA heyday before, so I wanted to avoid a complete throwback look.

First lets start off with the logo. An ABA feel ball but the new Brooklyn name combines past, present and future. But for other uses we have a simplified ball and the ball going through a net — for obvious reasons.

For the uniform, we go fauxback:

Home and Road

The differences are subtle but significant. The five stars have different placement to fit with the modern cut of NBA uniforms (three on the shorts, two on the jersey), the red stripe loops over the shoulder and the blue isn’t as navy as it was in the 70s.

If the ‘NETS’ and uni numbers on the jersey look a bit off center, that’s because they are. Combine that with the road blue’s vertical ‘Brooklyn’ on the red stripe and you have one of the most idiosyncratic uniforms in the NBA.

And with the move to Brooklyn comes a move to the soon to be built Barclays Center. With such a fancy new home, you need a fancy new court and that is precisely what I tried to give the Nets.

With this rebrand I tried to convey a unification between this historic organization and its brand new home, but only wins will convince the people of Brooklyn to make the Nets their own.

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Thanks again, Tim, for both the “meet and greet” and the new Nets concepts. Great stuff.

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Benchies

by Rick Pearson

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[Phil here] A little bit of a different “Benchies” today, more along the lines of a “contest” than anything else. You’ll see below. It’s open to everyone, and it’s pretty simple — you need to give Mick an outfit. You can use any means at your disposal, including crayons, MS Paint, GIMP or Photoshop. All you have to do is download the .bmp image (which will follow), and outfit Mick any way you’d like. When you’re done, you can send it to me (same address as the tweaks/colorizations) and simply indicate in the subject line: “Benchies Contest”.

The “chosen one” will receive a signed original Benchies, or a likeness of the winner will be drawn into a future Benchies comic — or maybe both. But lets see if we can’t have a bit of fun with this — we’ll set a deadline of April 3, 2011, as Rick will need to have these submissions in time for a full color Benchies post on Masters Sunday (April 10, 2011), but try to get them as soon as you can. We will post all the submissions.

How cool is that? Very. So…below is the “contest” and following that, I’ll have a link to the “blank” for you guys to download. You can color/design it up any way you’d like. Here’s an example of something interesting/crazy. I can only imagine what Jim Vilk will send in…the question is, would he wear it?

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Enjoy:

KNICKERS contest

All set? If you have any questions, you can E-mail me at the above address, or you can post your question in the comments below. Here then is the BLANK BENCHIES. Give it your best shot.

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all sport uni tweaks

Uni Tweaks

The tweaks have slowed down a bit, but they still keep coming in. Another new batch to get to today. If you have a tweak, change or concept for any sport, send them my way.

Remember, if possible, try to keep your descriptions to ~50 words (give or take) per tweak. You guys have been great a keeping to that, and it’s much appreciated!

Got an interesting set of tweaks today…so lets get right into it:

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First up is Adam Hill, who doesn’t exactly have a uniform tweak, but it certainly falls into the “tweaks” category:

Hi Phil,

I don’t think this can count as a uni tweak, but I’ll give it a shot anyways.

NASCAR driver Kasey Khane has a new team, sponsor and number this year. When they unveiled his new car, I couldn’t believe how stupid they made the number 4 look. I I’ve done a couple quick alterations, including shaving off the bump on the front and getting rid of the “totally rad” overlap. I think people could agree that this is an upgrade.

Thanks!

-Adam Hill

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And our final set of tweaks today comes from Kaleb Stuckey, who will be having his concepts run in two parts — he’s taken on the entire MLB. We’ll start with the American League today:

Inspired by my frustration of keeping up with so many uniform possibilities for each team, I came up with the idea of establishing a few rules for MLB uniforms. Some of the uniforms I have submitted are concepts and tweaks and some are the actual current combinations. I only have a few rules, and they are as follows:

1) No vests
2) No more than two hats
3) No more than two styles of pants (home and road)
4) Must have home alternate and road alternate, which are not interchangable

I realize there are teams that are very hesitant to adopt any kind of alternate jersey (Yankees, Tigers, Dodgers), but for the sake of consistency and fun, I created them as well. Enjoy!

AL East:

Boston Red Sox
Tampa Bay Rays
New York Yankees
Baltimore Orioles
Toronto Blue Jays

AL Central:

Chicago White Sox
Cleveland Indians
Minnesota Twins
Detroit Tigers
Kansas City Royals

AL West:

Texas Rangers
Seattle Mariners
Oakland A’s
Los Angeles Angels (of Anaheim)

Thanks,

Kaleb Stuckey

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Thanks to all the tweakers! Be back with more next weekend.

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From The E-Mail Bag

Haven’t dipped into the E-mail bag in a while, but I got two this week that are worth a quick shout.

First is James Shannahan:

Dear Mr. Hecken,

I saw these items and thought they may be of interest:

Leaderboard on The Golf Channel lists who uses Titleist golf balls:

Charlie Sheen’s stirrups in high school:

Duct tape with college logos:

I love the site!

Sincerely,
James Shannahan

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And we also have one from the Proctor Files:

Dear Phil,

I mentioned in my note to you how the Wood Brothers had perfected the modern NASCAR pitstop choreography. Here’s a link to the story about the history of it. Unfortunately the Wood Brothers don’t get the credit they deserve. Today’s NASCAR fan probably think today’s pitstop was invented by Rick Hendrick, Joe Gibbs or Richard Childress. Wrong! This article proves it was the Wood Brothers-proudly running FORD products only for 61 years!

Maybe you can fit in the link this weekend.

Thanks,

Terry

Thanks guys!

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colorize this

Colorize This!

Occasionally, I will be featuring wonderful, high-quality black and white photographs that are just begging to be colorized.

Not too much new this week, but we have some outstanding submissions nonetheless. Let’s get right to it:

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First up is first-time colorizer Jeremy Kelly, who took on the Steubenville football squad. I have to tell you — my first colorization sure did not turn out as well as this one.

Dear Phil,

I’ve never colorized anything before, so I hope that his photo meets the expectations of the submitter.

As I was working on it, I was struck by how amazing the photo is. It’s not often you see World War II -era high school sports program so ethnically diverse. That team was together for that photo five years before Jackie Robinson, twelve before Brown v. Board of Education, and 22 before the Civil Rights Amendment.

It was really good to see how close and friendly those young men appeared to be in that photo, no matter their racial or ethnic background.

Thanks for the opportunity to color this photo.

Sincerely,

Jeremy Kelly

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Next up is Joe DeAngelis, who had suggested Babe Ruth at bat for a colorization, and he has come through with his own beauty:

Hello Phil,

The Babe’s New York Yankees vs. the Washington Senators, at Griffith Stadium circa 1933 or 1934 (cross referencing details in book “Baseball Uniforms of the 20th Century”). It’s the Senators catcher’s single stripe socks that narrows it down to those two possible years, the book also revealed an off-white base for the home jersey.

Doing a piece like this required much guesswork, especially with this particular audience and their clothing. I used a common red brick scheme for the building across the street, and gave it the slightest of orange shading to suggest a sunlight reflection. You’ll notice I provided a subtle white facade crowning atop of that build as well.

Another challenge was finding the dirt-grass lines. I used this photo and learned that Griffiths had an unusually shaped home plate dirt pad in the early days, and therefore left the large forefront as dirt.

I colorized the umpires jacket, shoes and lower pant cuffs to suggest a coating of dirt dust, as well as the two other subjects shoes.

Though 90% obstructed, notice the batter on-deck, located just behind of the umpires left leg; is that a batting donut in 1934… perhaps it is?

Regards,
Joe DeAngelis

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Next up is Gary Chanko, who also took on the challenge of colorizing The Babe:

Phil,

Wow, this one was a challenge with such a wide range of elements in the image: the ballpark crowd, the structure, background building…

Great fun though and might make a nice print.

Gary

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And closing down the show today is the one and only George Chilvers who brings us the Sultan of Swat…and another treat (of the non-uni variety):

Bambino attached.

George

By the way – if you think I’ve been sat around wasting my time

:)

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That’s all the submissions for this week. All you colorizers — and I know you’re out there — I’ve got three new ones for you this week. They’re all baseball and they’re all beautiful:

First one is the 1942 Cubs vs. Reds — should be a good one — Cubs have their vest & unique sleeve combo, plus the Health patch, and the Reds are stoically classic

Next up is the 1934 Cubs. Another high quality print, and the Cubs look to be mixing and matching their home uniforms in this photo (notice they had 2 homes and 2 roads this year).

Finally, we have the 1917 Chicago White Sox, dressed in their special home uniforms for Game 3 of the 1917 World Series. I’ve actually colorized this one, but I think it’s a great challenge.

OK everyone…the gauntlet has been thrown down. You know what to do. Send me your submissions and I’ll run them next time we have a “Colorize This!”

Thanks to everyone who submitted this week — great job, one and all.

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And with that, we’re going to call it a wrap. Big thanks to Tim E. and of course, Ricko, the tweakers, the E-mailers, and the colorizers. Nice job everyone.

Don’t forget to move your clocks one hour ahead, if you haven’t done so already. Remember, it’s Daylight Saving Time. Leave the last “s” off for of “savings” (apologies to all for that bad “Sleepy’s” pun). Nothing bothers me more than hearing “daylight savings time” — like nails on a chalkboard. And of course, prayers and thoughts go out to the earthquake/tsunami survivors and their families — remember it’s NOT a tidal wave either.

Get ready to go dancing tonight folks. Vinny will again be bringing us the NCAA pool. Not that I’m going to win, but I ain’t pickin’ this year based on “who has the better uni.”

Have a great Sunday.

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Nothing says “palm frond Zubaz” quite like Robert P. Marshall. — Kenny “The Hemogoblin” Ocker

 
  
 
Comments (104)

    Jeremy> That is really stunning for a first effort. Really well done.

    And as for Joe and Gary – as always astounding too.

    Considering the source, I’d say that’s strong praise. Excellent work, fellas. Hard to top you, though, George. I had already seen your Queenie on the Shorpy site, and she’s now an 8X10 on the office wall. Many of those old-time pin-ups combine innocent and sultry in a beguiling way, and your work reveals all that through a new lens, making vivid what previously we saw as quaint. Your OBE is in he mail.

    Thank you. I really appreciate the praise! I’m going to try another this week.

    College logo duct tape? Well, at least the garbage bag taped in place of a broken car window can now have some panache! Rednecks rejoice!

    Now, if they made crime scene tape, too, it would really be something.

    “The killer was apprehended when he arrived at the police station to complain that Auburn tape had been used to cordon off the murder scene around his Tuscaloosa trailer.”

    —Ricko

    Five episodes of FULL COLOR FOOTBALL, the story of the American Footbal League, are running consecutively this afternoon on the NFL Network beginning at 2 pm EDT.

    —Ricko

    UPDATE on the Light Gold, Bright Gold, Athletic Gold discussion:
    As if we didn’t have enough options, UnderArmour calls it “Steeltown Gold.”

    Always imagine the people who name athlete shoe colors and paint colors sitting around a conference table.
    “Looks like ‘Eggshell’ to me.”
    “No, it’s more like ‘Portico,” I think.”
    After which there’s no doubt a shouting match and possibly a fist fight.

    —Ricko

    A few years ago Leicester City football team had change shirts in “fosse gold”.

    They were beige.

    And before that Liverpool had “ecru” change shirts.

    They were light beige.

    I wonder what Wiz Khalifa has to say about that?

    link

    Question: In the “music” video, these Stargell-like pillbox shirts keep showing up:

    >Black – link

    >Yellow/Gold/Canary – link

    >White – link

    And upon further inspection, the Stargell Stars on the shirts are actually diamonds. Any leads, thoughts, etc.?

    The shirts were made by Diamond Supply Co.
    link
    Also the entire first verse of “Black and Yellow” is about his Dodge Challenger. It just became popular with the Steelers organization after Lamar Woodley and a few other players showed up for the video shoot.

    “Daylight saving time is a sadistic plot to force working people to go home in the stinking heat of the day instead of cooler evenings, and make them feel like little kids having to go to bed not long after it gets dark.”

    – Some random poster on another site

    /seemed appropriate for today. I freakin hate DST. It’s so completely unnecessary. We aren’t a farming society anymore. DST just makes people have to run the A/C for longer during the hot summer.

    I bet if you did surveys of people they would say they like DST, especially since it gives you more light at the end of the day at the close of a long, cold winter.

    Sure, maybe they like it in March, but do they really like the extra hour of being too damn hot in July? Back when I worked during the day instead of night shift, I just loved going to bed at 10 or 11 and not being able to sleep because the sun had only went down an hour or 2 earlier and it hadn’t started cooling down enough yet.

    Summer days are longer by default. That’s why it’s summer. Winter days are shorter. So, what do we do? We screw with the clock so the dark dreary winter days are even shorter and more depressing and the long hot miserable summer days are even longer and more unbearable. We accentuate the extremes. It’s stupid.

    You farmers can live on your own time and stop screwing with everyone else. If you have to get up with the rooster at the crack of dawn what difference does it make if the clock says 5am or 6am?

    Does that sticker on Iowa helmet mean nothing to you? Look closely at those little letters inside the circle. “DST”.

    Hard to believe, I know, but apparently there are some people who actually enjoy doing things outdoors in the evening in the summertime. That extra hour of daylight is something I’m told they find appealing.

    I imagine they’re talking about playing golf, fishing, bicycling, softball, tennis…active stuff like that.

    —Ricko

    So why shift? Just move the damn clock an hour and leave it there. Maybe people who like doing outdoor stuff during the winter (skiing, sledding, etc) would appreciate the “extra” hour of daylight too.

    Yeah, but unfortunately when you do that, you get an hour less of daylight in the morning. So one thing that happens is that you end up with kids going to school in the dark.

    “Oh, so why not just start school an hour later?” Well, that kinda defeats the purpose of the time change, dunnit?

    Kids going to school in the dark… you mean like they are NOW? The school buses go by my house around 7am – it was just starting to get to the point where it was getting light outside at 7… and now we’re back to it being dark, again.

    not that this topic isn’t rife for debate…but i bet you’ll find there are many more who favor DST live in the “eastern” region of that particular time zone — for example, i’m plenty far east in the eastern time zone, and not particularly north…so even 6/21 has the sun setting before 9:00 pm; and the sun is “up” plenty early here, even in winter — so i’m all for keeping DST longer (or permanently); i’ve been in france (who knows what they use there) close to the summer solstice, and i remember going to dinner at 10:30 at night, and the sun hadn’t yet set…

    so, yeah, it’s always light “earlier” here and the sun always sets “earlier” here too, based simply on latitude

    those who live in the more western end of the time zone probably could be fine with standard time year round

    just my $.02

    That’s a decent point, Phil. I’m one who happens to think that the current DST schedule is pretty much perfect.

    Officially, sunrise is at 7:07 for me tomorrow. For you, it’s 7:10. Those are pretty decent times.

    TJ doesn’t see the sun until 7:47. That kinda sucks.

    Greetings fellow colorizers, nice to see another quality entry this week.
    Jeremy Kelly – That Steubenville photo was hard work, and I will say well done with that.
    Gary Chanko – True, your Babe effort would make a nice print.
    and
    George Chilvers – Another seller effort with the Bambino, and thanks for your kind words, your opinion is well respected around these parts.

    Looking forward to next weeks column.

    Thanks, Joe. I spent 2 days on it. It was pretty tedious, but satisfying. Any other ones ought to be a piece of cake by comparison.

    Awesome Nets fauxbacks, Tim! Pure and classic… I also came up with a Brooklyn Nets logo a few years back, link, with a map of the Borough instead of NJ…

    Honestly I want to really like the Nets tweaks – but there being a prior existing version is clouding my judgment, and perhaps that old look was really dated. I don’t know, maybe it’s the big stars that scream ‘1970s’ or the thick vertical stripe.

    Overall they’re not bad at all & certainly better than what else that’s been going on.

    “Nothing bothers me more than hearing “daylight savings time” – like nails on a chalkboard.”

    That’s right. It’s a time change, not a bank account.

    Like nails on a chalkboard? I guess in the same way I’m bothered by the likes of Joe Buck and others who still can’t get the concept that last year was “twenty-ten” and this year is “twenty-eleven.”

    Agreed. That’s another one. I’m borderline if it’s used in conjunction with a reference to 2009 or earlier, though.

    Something like “Our two thousand nine sales were down 3% compared to two thousand eight. However, two thousand ten saw sales grow 8% over two thousand nine.” doesn’t bother me that much.

    I used twenty-oh-one, twenty-oh-two and so on. It’s just easier, especially when you’re dealing with other numbers. I’ve had to read reports to people that were worded like so: “Last year they were left with a surplus of 2,000. 2011 inventory looks to be smaller.”

    well…i still say “two thousand ….”

    so if it’s 2011, i’ll say “two thousand eleven”

    just been saying “two thousand ___” for so long it’s hard to wrap my brain~pan around “twenty-ten” or “twenty-eleven”

    doesn’t quite sound right

    “Akron’s in the NCAA tournament” doesn’t sound quite right either…but the world has to adjust.

    You’d get used to it, but in this case “two thousand eleven” is just as correct as “twenty eleven.” Six of one, half dozen of the other, you could say.

    And Titanic sank in “one thousand nine hundred twelve?”

    –Ricko

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    well…you were there…you should know ;)

    “The Wild’s logo is amazing, one of the best in sports and that’s saying a lot.”

    Is that a joke?

    why is that a joke? it’s a pretty intricate logo, and i can see why it’s appealing — it’s better than anything coming out of Plan B nowadays

    it’s not one of my particular favorites, but it all depends on your perspective, i guess…the always accurate wiki describes it thusly:

    The multi-functional primary logo of the “Wild Animal” has been met with both praise and criticism. The logo is an optical illusion that depicts both an environmental landscape and the silhouette of a wild animal.

    The questions surrounding the identity of the animal depicted, has sparked debate amongst logo enthusiasts, earning it recognition as one of the best logos in sport according to The Good Point

    Some feel as though the form of the animal on the logo is that of a wild cat, while the majority view it to be a bear.The hidden components of the logo, the eye depicts the North Star which pays homage to the former Minnesota North Stars, the mouth resembles a river, the ear is the moon, and the pine trees add texture to the “wild animal.”

    i happen to think there is a bit too much going on and i hate the name, but that’s just me…to say it’s a “joke” however is criticizing an opinion to which today’s author is certainly entitled

    Oh, I was not joking. It may have been a bit of hyperbole but I love the complexity and layers of the Wild logo.

    As far as the best in sports, maybe I should have been more specific and said how I think its better than 95% of logos from the past, IDK, 40 years? And it’s certainly better than 99.9% of recent animal logos. I mean look at the ATL Thrashers, Hawks and Charlotte Bobcats.

    It’s not a bad logo, and there’s certainly many, MANY worse ones since the 1990s. Plus it has a pretty nice & unique color scheme; as opposed to the many blue, red, black/ silver ones that have popped up in the NHL & NBA.

    But do I think it’s better than the North Stars logo(s) pre-1991/92? No.

    Kaleb,

    I love what you did. The teams that use both dark blue and light blue, having the light be the home alt and the bark be the road alt is a brilliant idea.

    And I’ve always been a fan of the White Sox’s Black alt but was somewhat saddened to see that the ‘Chicago’ script never made it on a version of it. Having two versions of the black uni corrects that.

    Great work.

    My only critique? the Indians should look like they did during their best season ever:
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    The Indians red jersey needs red pants. And bring back Boog Powell.

    Great stuff, Kaleb…especially the Blue Jays!

    Kaleb,

    Outstanding work! I absolutely agree with your “uniform rules.” And I hope the Rangers use your idea (or something very similar) for their future uniforms.

    Great job.

    HA! love it…

    on twitter a few moments ago:

    APStylebook Today’s tip: It’s daylight saving time. Not savings, and no hyphen. #APStyle

    And yet last night you and Marty supported saying RBIs instead of RBI because it sounds better to you. Even though it’s wrong. I smell an inconsistency here.

    no…i supported marty’s EARLIER comment (stupid new commenting format)

    i don’t write RBIs or say “ribbies”, but i don’t actually have a problem with those who do, but i wasn’t giving it approval, tacit or otherwise

    The initials become the word. We put the letters together, and then we make it plural. It sounds terrific.
    All this, and I’m not even remotely a fan of the MLS.

    Some very good colorizers we do have for sure. Always look forward to seeing the great work. Super job guys.

    Steubenville is a well known Ohio river town. Now famous for it’s city murals. Home of Dean Martin and Jimmy The Greek.

    Long time power in football too. For a while in late 60’s belonged to the powerful All American Conference. with Massilon, Canton McKinley, Warren Harding, Niles McKinley, Alliance.

    I have a great book from around 1970 about the history of that conference. Many good old pictures of stars like Marion Motley, Len Dawson, Paul Brown, Paul Warfield and others.

    I am by Niles and Warren, so Steubenville is around an hour or more from me.

    rick~ great idear sir. how to capture the man is a challenge.

    great job universally on the colourization, i just love that section every time. i was really most impressed with the way gary treated the crowd. but i have to bring up jerry’s team photo too, it was real swell.

    the zubaz quote~ dear corn the horrors, the horrrrrrors. kenny, this year’s winter handle bar fooman-choo put that one to shame. and pineapple was asking how you were doing the other day, had to tell her i hadn’t spoken to you lately, maybe i’ll drop you a line an see how things are going. by the way, we were this close to moving to eugene a month or so ago, she was closer then we expected for a painting position at quacker U.

    Regarding the whole Daylight Saving Time thing: One little-noted effect of DST is that it effectively killed the drive-in movie industry, because it they can’t start their first feature until 9pm-ish, which means most people won’t stay for the double-feature, which in turn means they won’t bother to show up at all.

    Yes, there are a few drive-in theaters left, but they’re relics, just hanging on. Ask anyone connected to the film biz why the drive-in category tanked and they’ll all tell you the same thing: Daylight Saving Time.

    Interesting. I’d never heard that.

    I always assumed it was pretty much the direct result of suburban sprawl and the increased property values and/or taxes that go along with it.

    The town I grew up in had a theater until it closed in the mid-80s (the timing totally sucked because it was just before I got my driver’s license) to make way for a UPS facility.

    The theater that was closest to where I live now closed in the mid-90s. If I’m not mistaken, it shut down when the gas company had to tear up the parking lots to do some pipeline work and never reopened. Some vestiges of it remain, but most of the property was swallowed up by what’s now called Chicago Executive Airport.

    not that i buy it, but if that is true, they are an excepted casualty. but i could point to other things that if they didn’t kill, would have killed ro help kill the industry. high def pixtures, surround sound, fancier theaters with our increased collective need for perceived comfort, multiplex theatres and their choice, land values, hippie complaints about noise, light, sound, air pollution, increased security for the breeding ground of inappropriate behavior(you know this would have happened), and that is just off the top of my head. i’m just saying, don’t blame best day ever, it is multifaceted.

    i guess nimby would have been better for noise and such, so hippie wasn’t perfect, thanks trogdor. but it does cover the cars and gas, and air conditioning etc. i was just lumping too much together for space. my point was, it didn’t matter if DSL started to hurt the industry before other things did, it was doomed.

    didn’t daylight saving time first occur around 1919? i’m pretty sure i read that somewhere–will have to double-check

    if that is true, how would that have affected the drive-in movie industry? or did a lot of places simply not adopt DST until much later (tho im not quite sure how that is possible)

    in other words, if DST predates the drive-in…how could it have killed it off?

    lemme go see when it was established

    ah ha…it was established in 1918, but was discontinued in 1919, as everyone was a farmer then

    snopes has the facts

    seems that we’d be going on and off DST (depending on where one lived) until WWII, and then again in 1966…so it’s been around as long as i have…i barely remember nixon messing with it during the energy crunch

    so yeah…if 1966 was considered the “actual” date (act of congress), that would have been right at the time the drive in was at it’s apex…

    . . . but without DST one would never be able to grill dinner without artificial light (or, worse, eating at some barbarically early hour).

    DST hasn’t always been national, either. Michigan, for example, for many years didn’t change from ST.

    Shoot, there even was one year that Minneapolis was on DST and St. Paul wasn’t. Now THAT was confusing. It prompted one disc jockey to ask a mythical Minneapolis resident who worked in St. Paul what his life was like. The response was a cut from the Beach Boys’ Help Me, Rhonda:
    “I come in late at night and in the mornin’ I just lay in be-ed.”

    But no matter what DST history we bring to bear, I think it’s safe to say if sure didn’t HELP the drive-in movie any.

    —Ricko

    I can tell you from personal experience, drive-ins did tend to drop off the social calendar for most young adults. They started just too frickin’ late. Close to 10 p.m. was way too far into the evening to, um, get things started.

    —Ricko

    I’m proud to say that a tiny drive-in near my hometown is still alive and kicking. If I ever make it back up to St. Marys, WV I’ll be sure to hit up a double feature in Parkersburg, at the Jungle Drive-in! link

    There are a couple recent pics on that website.

    You are not kidding about late starts, especially out here in Idaho when the sun doesn’t seem to go down until 10 pm in parts of the summer. I’ve fallen asleep before at the drive-in, but there are several of them here in my section of the state. I can name 3 within an hour and one more within 3 hours. I love drive-ins but you don’t leave until 1 am.

    Jeremy, Joe Gary and George: Really exquisite work. Keep ’em coming, they’re beautiful.

    Just curious…

    Are there any colorisers out there who have treated these lovely old pictures with a decidely abstract interpretation? More…I don’t know, painterly, or something? Imagine an oil painting over one of these images….

    Is that even possible with the technology?

    Pretty sure there are programs out there that can do it with a click.
    Once the color’s added, you could turn it into a Van Gogh, or any number of styles.

    We used one of those programs for a whole series of backlits and posters for a casino client about 15 years ago.

    —Ricko

    do you mean something like this, jim?

    (that was just a Q&D in flickr, not p-shop)…there are a bazillion effects (watercolor, oil painting, etc.) you can do with those programs

    Oh, Yeah!!

    That’s is so cool.

    More like that–different interpretations–may not be everyone’s cup of tea…but …looks good to me. (Along with the terrific more literal colorising).

    love the AL uni ‘tweaks’ by kaleb. thats how all unisets should be like. the Nets uni pictured is awesome. throwbacks can be awesome but the ‘brooklyn’ seems a little large maybe i’d like tosee what it looks like with an abbreviation.

    It was the vertical stripe motif that made the Nets’ uniform unique, much like the diagonal one employed by the Trailblazers. The Supersonics also had an iconic look which is sadly missing from their current incarnation as the Thunder.

    I really think the Nets need to change their name, though. When you say “Brooklyn Nets,” it sounds like “Brooklynettes.” I recall one commenter suggested using “Brooklyn Knights.” That would present the same problem, i.e., “Brooklynites.”

    I do like the Nets nickname and the proposed new design, but “Brooklyn Knights” would be a good replacement. It feels like that troubled franchise is making a fresh new start, so the change would be appropriate. A Knights uniform in silver and black could really set them apart, I always liked the old design of the defunct New York-New Jersey Knights of the WLAF.

    If St. Louis ever gets another NBA franchise, I would hope they bring back the Spirits of St. Louis nickname, if possible.

    If the Sacramento Kings do move to Anaheim, they should become the Piranhas.

    In the unlikely event Pittsburgh ever joined the NBA, the nickname Ironmen seems fitting.

    Oops, should have said a Knights uniform with silver, black and gold would set them apart.

    “If the Sacramento Kings do move to Anaheim, they should become the Piranhas.”

    I dunno. If Disney’s involved, and based on hockey, they’ll be the “Mice”.

    Although “Ahaheim Lion Kings” does roll nicely off the tongue (keeps the old name, too; just bends it a little to fit the new geography).

    —Ricko

    Along with bringing back the Spirits of St Louis they could also add the arch, that was used on the Sonics uniforms, to the uniform tops if St. Louis were to ever get another team.

    I, for one, am all for these Nets throwbacks for the new start in Brooklyn. However, I find it impossible to believe that BROOKLYN won’t be featured more prominently, at least on the road set. I suspect we may even see a “Brooklyn Brooklyns” treatment, a la the “New York New Yorks” (aka Knicks) and “Texas Texases” (aka Rangers).

    The cache of the Brooklyn name is the biggest moneymaker this franchise will have going for it.

    I still like bringing back the old “Brooklyn Bushwicks”.

    Yeah, I know that’s baseball, but given the off-court adventures of most NBA players, the double entendre is just far too wondeful to ignore.

    –Ricko

    The New York Yankees, Montreal Canadians, Boston Celtics, etc. are certainly not above a uniform redesign. All of those teams have worn different uniforms in the past, so the door is wide open. The Canadians and Celtics have worn alternate uniforms in recent years, so there would be nothing wrong with a classy Yankees alternate. Regardless, the Yankees should always have their red and blue logo on a sleeve.

    “All of those teams have worn different uniforms in the past, so the door is wide open.”

    “Wide open” probably would be an overstatement. We do realize that history and tradition aren’t the same thing, right? NY Giants once wore a sort of “lavender”. Wore red, white and blue, too. That makes those colors part of their history, but certainly not their tradition. They went to orange and black in 1947 and haven’t changed since. I dunno, 64 consecutive years sounds like the tradtion for them. To me, anyway.

    —Ricko

    The New York Yankees, Montreal Canadians, Boston Celtics, etc. are certainly not above a uniform redesign.

    while that is probably true, there is a reason why the teams look the way they do today (and for the most part, have all looked like that for at least a half-century)…they kept tinkering until it became, in their eyes, perfect

    is that a reason not to change? no. but neither is it a reason to change…could the yankees improve their current uni? well, they could fix all the different interlocking NY’s that they have, but that wouldn’t necessarily improve the uni

    too many teams CFCS (change for change sake) when their uniform has come close to perfection…and the results are almost never better…look at the celtics alt or their st. patty’s day getup — do either of those tweaks improve on what they currently wear? i’d say no…why mess with perfection

    the canadiens? we’ve seen what their modern interpretation of their old unis look like…no way are any of those better than their current set

    and the words “classy Yankees alternate” are oxymorons

    Agreed, too many teams, “CFCS”, but changes which keep the integrity of a classic uniform should be explored.

    With a classy design, there’s no doubt positive changes
    can be executed. Occasional, alternates or subtle changes to existing uniforms, are possible.

    I’d like to see a Celtics alternate with that Notre Dame 1974 theme, that could work.

    I love Tim E.’s stuff. Great job on all of it. I also forgot to look at Uni Watch til past midnight yesterday and didn’t get a chance to comment, but as a soccer fan I loved loved loved those MLS uni tweaks. I can’t wait to see the rest of them. To pile onto the corporate sponsor backlash from yesterday I will say that I’m all for every MLS team having sponsors on their jersey. People who use history as the argument against it how about them “Acme Packers” from back in the day. And frankly you can yell at me all you want but it won’t change my opinion. The teams that don’t have sponsors in the MLS look naked without it.

    If you think jerseys that emphasize a corporate sponsor rather than the team that’s playing the game then that’s certainly your prerogative.

    But you’re going to have to come up with a better historical justification than the Acme Packers jerseys that were worn for one season.

    Gatorade Canada “golden goal” commercial.
    Everything re-created, players and uniforms re-imagined.

    link

    “The five stars have different placement to fit with the modern cut of NBA uniforms (three on the shorts, two on the jersey)”

    Two stars on the shorts is long enough…

    Love your tweaks, Tim! The court is fantastic. The Nets have had some good looks throughout the years (except those tie-dye unis), and you went with one of the best looks. Actually, I may be the only one whose favorite is this one:
    link

    Kaleb’s tweaks are all pretty great, but I really like his Tampa Bay and Detroit road alts

    Apparently, saying “daylight savingS” with an “s” is frowned upon in this establishment. And yet, I’m not trying to save just a singular daylight…

    OK, I’m trying to remember what the proper name for this device is, Paul had a column about them a few months ago and he even made a home-made one.

    link

    BTW, I like the Nets re-do. Do the stars increase in size as they go down the jersey/shorts or is just an optical illusion?

    A note in this link mentions that Mariano Rivera will go with the high socks this season (includes a picture of him with the high socks in action).

    link

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