Monday Morning Uni Watch

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Packers RB John Kuhn is a cerebral, introspective fellow. So this whole brouhaha regarding the team’s “G” logo has been particularly vexing for him. Does it stand for “Green Bay”? Does it stand for “greatness”? Does it stand for “gullible”? Does it stand for “Tiki Barber’s as lazy and stupid as most ‘real’ journalists”?

As you can see in the photo at right, Kuhn was so flummoxed by these choices that he decided to scrap his helmet logo altogether. That shot was taken in the first quarter. Later on, though, he decided the G stands for “Goddamn, that is the worst rendition of the national anthem I’ve ever heard,” at which point the Pack’s equipment staff was able to fix him up with a right proper logo decal.

In other Super Bowl-related news and observations:

• By far my favorite uni-related detail from the game: During the first quarter last night, Mike McCarthy forgot to replace the cap on the red Sharpie he was keeping in his cap, making it look like his neck was bleeding.

• Aaron Rodgers had some serious pad exposure.

• Anyone else totally hate those digi-purple sideline shirts that both teams were wearing? They looked much more purple on teevee than in that photo. In any case, they didn’t match either team’s color scheme and looked like shite.

•  Speaking of the world’s most accursed color, I thought it was a little odd that Joe Buck and Troy Aikman were both wearing purple ties. Ditto for Trent Dilfer over on ESPN. Coincidence, or was this one of those lupus-awareness campaigns (or whatever)?

• It’s hard to see, but a couple of readers noticed an odd crimp in Walt Anderson’s cap.

• At the very end of this John Clayton column about the Super Bowl match-up, there’s this line: “The other potential problem facing [Aaron] Rodgers is using the Super Bowl football, which has a painted spot that often causes problems for quarterbacks. Rodgers doesn’t think it will be a problem, but he can’t know for sure. [Ben] Roethlisberger has been through two Super Bowl games, so it shouldn’t be an issue for him.” Hmmmm. This “painted spot” is presumably a reference to the Super Bowl logo. I think “painted” is not an accurate term here, but I can absolutely confirm that the logo on the balls in Ada felt a little slick or slippery — I was surprised by that. Didn’t know it had ever been an issue with QBs, though.

• Party tricks: Reader Logan Light attended a Super Bowl party with Packers- and Steelers-themed cupcakes, Scott Peterson made a Packers cake, and someone who didn’t give his/her name was at a party with a very artfully arranged salad.

• When Darth Vader isn’t moonlighting in that annoying Passat ad, he’s rooting for the Packers.

• The storm troopers, however, are Steelers fans.

• If a product sits around on the shelf without selling for three years, it’s usually marked down. But not in Super Bowl-onomics. When Tim Reyes visited the NFL Experience on Saturday and bought a stuffed toy for his two-year-old daughter, he found it had been for sale at least since Super Bowl XLII and actually had its price marked up this year. (The toy in question, incidentally, appears to be this. Note that he’s wearing a baseball cap atop his football helmet. Overkill, methinks.)

• Mark Rybczyk attended the NFL Experience, too. “They had headless mannequins that you could pose behind and have your picture taken in your favorite team’s uniform,” he says. “Sadly, every mannequin featured all-white socks and a long-sleeve white cotton undershirt. So much for attention to detail.”

• The top five moments in Super Bowl history are much more interesting when animated in food.

• Here’s a super-detailed look at one of the Packers’ championship rings from Super Bowl I. The weird thing, at least to me, is the mash-up of the NFL and AFL logos on the side. Never noticed that before.

• And here’s a bit of a bombshell to go out on: As most of you probably know, Super Bowl I was broadcast by NBC and CBS, neither of which retained a tape of the game. So the reason you always see those same boilerplate highlights of Max McGee’s juggling catch is that there’s literally no other surviving footage to show. But now, in a major discovery, it looks like a tape of the game — most of it, anyway — has turned up. (Cue Ricko saying, “I remember that game like it was yesterday. I started with the CBS broadcast, but the signal was a little static-y and I didn’t feel like climbing up on the roof to adjust the antenna (most of you probably don’t realize every house had a TV antenna on the roof in those days — there was no internet either, just so you know), so I switched to NBC. And then…”)

And that’ll do it for this NFL season. Congrats to Chance, Jeff, Johnny O., and all our other Packer Backers, and condolences to Kek, RyCo, and the rest of the Yinzers. May all future Super Bowls be this aesthetically pleasing.

(My thanks to all contributors, including Geoff Poole, Rob McLaughlin, R. Scott Rogers, and Jason Greening.)

Uni Watch News Ticker: My in-box almost exploded on Friday afternoon when the Dodgers announced that they’d be letting fans vote on a new throwback to be worn for six weekday afternoon games this season (i.e., when nobody’s watching). I’d totally go for the blue satin uni, except that it won’t be rendered in satin, plus there’s no point in wearing a satin night uni for day games, so I’m officially endorsing the 1911 design with the CNOP (city name on placket). ”¦ New uniforms for Women’s Professional Soccer. ”¦ It’s not often that beautiful striped socks are the least interesting element of a baseball uniform, but take a look at the College of Siskiyous squad. That is one weird-ass uni, on so many levels (big thanks to Roshan Sathyanarayana). ”¦ The folks at Black Fives have put together a good photo archive. ”¦ Hockey sweaters and Jell-O pudding — two great tastes that taste great together (nice find by Joey Talbert). ”¦ The Puerto Rican team the Caribbean Series is wearing quite a variety of pants stripes (good spot by Jonathon Binet). ”¦ New baseball uniform for Rice. Has a swoosh ever looked more douchebaggishly out of place than it does against that old English typography? ”¦ Throwbacks on tap for Louisville hoops. “Hopefully they’ll look like these great ones they wore a few years ago,” says David Merrill. ”¦ The German Volleyball Federation has new uniforms and a new logo (as noted by Jeremy Brahm). ”¦ Also from Jeremy: The Kashima Antlers — that’s a Japanese soccer team — have new uniforms and a 20th-anniversary logo. ”¦ Here’s a weird one: Gene Upshaw kicking. “Was he ever a kickoff specialist?” asks Bill Kellick. Good question — anyone..? ”¦ New sleeve patch for the Giants’ road jerseys. Also, the team’s retail authentics being sold online show a new championshp sleeve patch, although I don’t know yet if that’s just a merch thing or if it’ll be worn on the field. ”¦ Back in December it was briefly reported, in the middle of a larger article that had nothing to do with uniforms, that the Broncos were hoping to go back to orange as their primary jersey color in 2012. Now we have confirmation. ”¦ Here’s a slideshow featuring lots of details of the Bucks’ new throwbacks (with thanks to Josh Dirkse). ”¦ I don’t usually talk about music here, but if you go to Apex Manor’s MySpace page and play “Teenage Blood,” you’ll hear what’s likely to go down as one of the best songs of 2011. ”¦ Sounds like an sketch from Portlandia, but it’s true: Some high schools in Oregon couldn’t afford pink-themed uniforms for cancer awareness, so a sporting goods dealer created a pink-trimmed uni set that rotates from school to school (with thanks to Mike McLaughlin). ”¦ Check this out: Back in 1961, Tennessee held an exhibition football game at a NASCAR track. “Today it’s evolved into a 165,000+ stadium, fourth-largest in the country,” says Jory Fleischauer. ”¦ ’Tis the season when we see lots of video clips about MLB teams loading up their gear for spring training (with thanks to Matt Robinson). ”¦ Interesting story about the design of the Colorado State alternate logo (with thanks to Ben Thoma). ”¦ The Clippers are embarking on an unusually long road trip, which has uni implications. For details, go here and search on the word “equipment” (with thanks to Matthew Wolfram). ”¦ Check out this crazy Illinois hockey jersey. Never seen a design treatment like that on a hockey uni. ”¦ The NYC Fire Dept. is replacing a bunch of heat-resistant gloves that weren’t so heat-resistant after all, and now the glove manufacturer is closing its factory. ”¦ Pretty cool video clips of the Predators’ ice surface being broken up and then replaced (with thanks to Lee David Wilds). ”¦ Miami hockey wore “BB” memorial jerseys on Saturday to mark the first anniversary of the death of former student manager Brendan Burke. All of the jerseys had “Burke” as the NOB. ”¦ WBC super flyweight challenger Nobuo Nashiro quite an entrance costume for his bout over the weekend (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). ”¦ This has to qualify as one of history’s greatest backplates. That’s Princeton’s Rachel Weber, who hails from Hudson, Wisconsin (major thanks to Tris Wykes). ”¦ Gibby Davis reports that George Canyon sang the national anthem at Saturday’s Flames/Kings game and had a special jersey with a musical note instead of a number. ”¦ Franken-pads sighting by Jimbo Huening, who writes: “Blackhawks center Dave Bolland was being interviewed during the first intermission of Friday night’s Chicago/Vancouver game. Looks like he was wearing extra padding (with huge Bauer logos) sewn on top of some Reebok shoulder pads.” ”¦ Check out the Jets-themed uniforms at Leeds High School in Alabama. “That’s where Charles Barkley attended,” says Jeff McClendon. ”¦ Sad, powerful story about high school football helmet safety (with thanks to Sean Kautzman). ”¦ D-League news from Tim Moore, who writes: “Saturday night was Blazers Affiliate night for the Idaho Stampede. The Stampede wore full Blazers home attire against the Reno Bighorns. Thought the readers might find an aging, laboring Antoine Walker in a Blazers jersey entertaining. All the players had sewn-on nameplates, with the exception of Armon Johnson, who’s on assignment with the team.” ”¦ The list of things that the new Lightning logo resembles just got a bit longer, because Allison Ambrous sent me this. “I only noticed it about a month ago,” she says, “but I would like to find out if it was used before Stevie Y left Motown for Tampa.” ”¦ Cass Hunt says a jersey that’s supposedly an LSU Amateur Armistice design has been making the rounds on the LSU message boards. I have no idea whether it’s legit, although my gut says nuh-uh. ”¦ Very cool non-uni-related item, vol. 1: My buddy Shane Arbogast spotted this awesome sign in a Manhattan shop yesterday. I love how they show the skeleton — you know, just in case you didn’t know what “Animal Bone” means. ”¦ Very cool non-uni-related item, vol. 2: I collect salesman sample catalogs, so I was particularly excited when I saw this suitcase that essentially acts as its own catalog. Was gonna bid on it, but it’s pretty tiny — only 15″ by 10″, which is more or less the dimensions of my laptop. Considered using it as a briefcase, but it isn’t even big enough for that. Seems more like a toy, not enough gravitas, etc., so I passed. Still a very neat item, though.

245 comments to Monday Morning Uni Watch

  • jude | February 7, 2011 at 8:13 am |

    Bill O’Reilly wore a purple tie for his interview with Obama. There was too many people wearing purple to be a coincidence, IMO.

    The best explanation I got from my Super Bowl crowd is that purple wasn’t the color of either of the teams playing.

    • RS Rogers | February 7, 2011 at 8:20 am |

      Billo’s purple was undoubtedly about being neither blue nor red but both, because of the whole blue-state/red-state bullpucky. Nothing to do with the teams. Which is (A) stupid and (B) anti-historical and (C) cowardly. You know who has the confidence to wear straight-up red ties at major events? Barack Obama. You know who had the balls to wear bright blue ties at major events? George W. Bush. Shocking, I know, that a Democrat would wear red or a Republican would wear blue. It’s almost like it’s just a color, or part of the American flag, and not a purely partisan symbol.

      • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 8:50 am |


        As a nation we are making WAY too much of this blue state-red state thing.

        Although much of the blame for that comes from the parties themsleves, often seeming to play diretly into it, creating a sensation among their respective brethern that they want to be able to say, “My state is a red/blue state.”

        It’s just a TV graphic, for god sake. Let’s not make it like orange and kelly green in Northern Ireland, okay?


        • RS Rogers | February 7, 2011 at 9:43 am |

          Thing is, it’s not even a legit TV graphic. In November 2000, most (but not all) TV networks colored states red for Bush and blue for Gore, but that’s just because of a tradition dating to the early days of color TV of using blue for the incumbent party and red for the opposition party. Thus Reagan painted the map red in 1980 but blue in 1984 (and the same with Clinton in 1992 and 1996, respectively). Fixing the metaphor at red-for-Republicans and blue-for-Democrats because that just happens to be the colors used one night in 2000, particularly when that election was effectively a tie in which most states were close to evenly divided rather than all one way or all the other, would be like everyone deciding that the Steelers colors are gold and white because that’s what they were wearing in this year’s Super Bowl.

    • Seth H | February 7, 2011 at 8:53 am |

      Time for Paul to resign himself to the purple tide.

      The last two weekends at my temple, the bar/bat mitzvah families have provided purple kippot (yarmulkes) for their guests.

    • Ray Barrington | February 7, 2011 at 10:20 pm |

      Actually, NBC started the trend in 1976 in the Ford-Carter race – a giant actual map, not an electronic graphic. That year, they used Blue for Ford (R) and red for Carter (D). As he watched the results, old Michigan man Ford would occasionally shout “GO BLUE!” (confirmed by Jules Witcover’s book “Marathon.”)

    • Alan | February 7, 2011 at 10:38 pm |

      Noticed the purple make an appearance during the celebration when the red, white, blue streamers fell and blended from the rafters.

      Why did Aaron Rogers get a red car for being the MVP? It looked like the NFL forgot to get a car and a couple of hours before the game went and picked one up. With two yellow teams, they could have covered their bases and had a yellow one waiting in the wings OR better yet, ponied up and custom painted two cars, each team’s colors, like those car rebuild TV shows. How nice would that be???

  • RS Rogers | February 7, 2011 at 8:14 am |

    Just voted for the 1931 Dodgers unis. That’s the uni that clearly should win. But can there be any doubt that the faux-satins (“ersatin”?) will win? I just can’t see your average, non-uni- or history-obsessed fan pulling the lever for anything but that gorgeous blue with the classic “Brooklyn” script and the iconic blue cap. That’s gonna win in a landslide.

    • Chance Michaels | February 7, 2011 at 11:43 am |

      Holy crap – has MLB finally fixed its bad Brooklyn Dodgers cap logo?

      Both of the Dodgers’ throwback proposals use a logo much closer to the Bums’ standard “B” instead of the short-lived Red Sox (or flat-out inaccurate) versions MLB usually uses.

      • scott | February 7, 2011 at 1:41 pm |

        I agree that the powder blues, unfortunately, are going to win. It’s a shame as those uniforms really have no place in Dodgers wardrobe.

  • Zach Smith | February 7, 2011 at 8:23 am |

    Super Bowl looked pretty good. Only thing that really stuck out to me was that referee Walt Anderson’s knickers looked a little too baggy to me.

    Antoine Walker in a Blazers uniform is pretty funny. Pretty rough nameplate job, though.

  • 5w30 | February 7, 2011 at 8:27 am |

    Too bad one of the Dodgers’ throwback games wasn’t against the Madoff Metsies. Then Fred Wilpon would really get confused. I vote for the blue satin unis, after all this is Hollywood!

  • BurghFan | February 7, 2011 at 8:28 am |

    Congratulations to the cheesehead contingent here. Enjoy the celebration.

  • BDiamond | February 7, 2011 at 8:36 am |

    I think the color on your TV must have been off b/c those sideline shirts are definitely gray.

    • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 8:53 am |

      Yeah, they’ve been gray all season, those “sorta-camo” shirts for players who aren’t suiting up for the game.

      Reminds of last year when someone thought the Ravens’ gray sideline parkas were lavender.

      It’s a lighting thing, that’s all.


    • JohnnySeoul | February 7, 2011 at 1:19 pm |

      Def gray. They are a cross between the US Army’s ACUs and the Air Force’s ABUs. I 100% LOVE the shoutout to the US military. By far the best sideline clothing (shirts, caps, hoodies, and etc) we have seen in many years. Nice to see Reebok actually getting something right.

  • RGT | February 7, 2011 at 8:41 am |

    I think the game at Bristol Raceway you are referring to was a NFL exhibition game between the Redskins and the Eagles.

    • Jim TN | February 7, 2011 at 11:00 am |

      You are correct. The pic is from an Eagles-Redskins exhibition game in September of 1961.

      There has been a rumor for years of Bruton Smith, owner of Bristol Motor Speedway, arranging a game between Virginia Tech and Tennessee at the track. He envisions 81,000 tickets to each school and a new NCAA football attendance record. A payout of $20M to each school was even mentioned–BCS money for a regular season game.

      Nothing has ever come of it. Both sides have said eveything from not interested, to not wanting to lose a home game, to not wanting to add another non-conference game, to denying the rumor exists altogether.

      • Jory | February 7, 2011 at 2:14 pm |

        You are completely right, I watched the show that image came from late at night and got the games mixed up.

        They can’t hold a game in the infield anymore because they have a permanent scoring pylon in the infield now.

        Funny thing is, Virgina Tech was okay with it, but Tennessee kept saying no.

      • gueman | February 7, 2011 at 3:16 pm |

        I have family in Bristol, and both Larry Carrier the former owner of BMS and Bruton Smith have been pushing for a game at BMS for years. It seems like such a win-win for all involved, I can’t believe that it hasn’t happened yet. He should put the same offer on the table for the Titans.

  • SkinnerAU | February 7, 2011 at 8:43 am |

    well i wish i wasn’t gambling man… last night kinda hurt

  • Anthony | February 7, 2011 at 8:51 am |

    Dilfer’s purple tie was probably a shout-out to his Superbowl-winning Ravens team. I have no idea about the others.

    • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 9:00 am |

      Yeah, why do people who’d wear neckties with a team’s helmet logo pattern think everyone chooses his necktie based on a team.

      How about this instead?
      Necktie colors become “hot” from time to time. During W’s presidency it was blue.
      For a while it was red. There a gold period. And a sort of light metallic yellow era. Even a bright lime green time.

      Sometimes called “power ties”.

      Right now the hot color is “eggplant”. And I dont’ think talking heads think about it being a combo of red and blue…it’s just that it’s NOT a red tie or a blue tie (cuz they worry about he “state” thing).


      • jdreyfuss | February 7, 2011 at 11:09 am |

        I think wearing purple in order to not be red or blue is a stupid choice then, because it is a combination of the two. I’ve been saying since the colors became codified that to be neutral the news people should be wearing green or yellow, since they’re neutral and not a combination of red and blue.

        • RS Rogers | February 7, 2011 at 12:39 pm |

          Best choice: Ignore the whole issue and just wear whatever color ties one wants, and if anyone objects, one can explain that one does not choose one’s ties as a symbol of partisan loyalties, because one is neither a partisan hack or a crazy conspiracy theorist, but rather a regular person who happens to like the colors red and blue.

          Second-best choice: Wear a tie with both blue and red.

          This really shouldn’t be rocket science, but apparently a large segment of the newsmedia learned everything they know about color from Glad-Lock sandwich bag commercials.

    • Andy | February 7, 2011 at 9:05 am |

      What ever happened to the black tie? That’s all they used to wear before color TV, and it looked great! ;-)

    • duker | February 7, 2011 at 12:55 pm |

      I don’t have a screenshot but I did notice that Dilfer was wearing his Championship Ring. I assumed he was just color coordinating.

  • LI Phil | February 7, 2011 at 8:59 am |

    perhaps Rice’s R now has an accent aigu? or a busted tilde? no?

    ok…it’s the mark of the beast

    • Mark in Shiga | February 7, 2011 at 10:12 am |

      The answer to “Has a swoosh ever looked more douchebaggishly out of place than it does against that old English typography?” is yes. Yes it has.

      The Seibu Lions (in Saitama, Japan) have been wearing this for home games recently:

      • RS Rogers | February 7, 2011 at 11:50 am |

        No, Rice still wins, since the Lions jerseys have enough separation between letters and swoosh that you can tell them apart. Still looks awful, but Rice looks worse, since the swoosh is so close to the R that it looks like either a typography fail or the marketing equivalent of Nike peeing on the Rice logo to claim ownership like a dog on a hydrant.

    • jdreyfuss | February 7, 2011 at 11:11 am |

      As a Rice grad, I’m disappointed that Nike wouldn’t have the foresight to realize how close the swoosh would get to the ‘R.’ If the swoosh has to be there, it should be on the left chest or the sleeve, not the right chest where it can interfere with the school logo.

    • pru | February 7, 2011 at 11:29 am |

      I’d like to see them on a player because it looks like R ice the way it’s laid out.

  • DW95MVP | February 7, 2011 at 9:09 am |

    Was it just me or did anyone else notice that the Green Bay helmets were speckled and looked metallic.

    • Ryan | February 7, 2011 at 9:48 am |

      According to the recent rundown of Packers uniform history, the metallic sheen on the helmets has been there since 2001:

      [quote]2001: Reebok acquires a league-wide contract for NFL uniforms. The gold helmets are given a pearlized sheen.[/quote]

      I’m wondering if anybody else thought the Steelers’ pants had a sheen to them that is not usually there? I thought their pants were typically just yellow, but last night, there was a pronounced sheen to them. Was this a new treatment, or am I behind the times?

      • John in KY | February 7, 2011 at 9:56 am |

        No, they have been like that all season. However, Green Bay looks like they all changed to matte finished pants for the game which made the Steelers pants stand out more. I thought that Green Bay also wore the dazzle-fabric pants for most of this season including the playoffs but I could be wrong.

    • Coleman | February 7, 2011 at 10:18 am |

      I’ve hated that added “sparkle” to the helmets ever since it was done. The plain ones were just fine, like the rest of the uniform. They get a pardon from me now though, after winning the Super Bowl!

      GO PACK! GO!

  • Terry Proctor | February 7, 2011 at 9:10 am |

    I saw Vince Lombardi’s actual ring from Super Bowl II. After Vince passed away his ring from SBII was given to his brother Joe. Joe Lombardi was a sales representative for Rawlings Sporting Goods and called on us at Ruby’s Sporting Goods in Rochester. Joe looked a lot like Vince but I noticed the ring had a sizer inside so that it would fit on Joe’s smaller digit. Joe told a story about one time he was in Chicago prior to a Packers-Bears game and saw his brother in the hotel lobby. Joe went up to Vince to greet him and Vince snapped at him saying something like, “What in the hell are you bothering me for? Don’t you know I’ve got a game to coach?” With that Vince stormed away. The two siblings saw each other after the game and Joe said Vince came up and hugged and kissed him. Joe said, “I thought you were mad at me?” To which Vince explained that during pre-game time that was all he was thinking about. Family or friends all took a backseat to the Packers until the game was over.

  • tomservaux96 | February 7, 2011 at 9:15 am |

    The best part about that Steeler-trooper is his nametag – Hypocyke Lloyd.

  • LI Phil | February 7, 2011 at 9:22 am |

    aaron rodgers is pretty good

    he now has as many lombardi’s and more SB MVPs than the guy he replaced

    how many times do you think favre called zigy wilf yesterday?

    • Kek | February 7, 2011 at 9:33 am |

      As much as I’m bummed about my beloved Steelers, I hope this is the first step in Aaron Rodgers making everyone forget about the overrated hype machine that is/was #4.

      • NE | February 7, 2011 at 10:36 am |

        I like both Brett & Aaron. Aaron may very well win more championships, and i hope he does, but he will never be able to do what Brett did. Take a franchise that was the last place anyone wanted to play for 25 years proir and make them relevant again. go pack.

        • George | February 7, 2011 at 2:20 pm |

          Correct me if I’m wrong, but hasn’t that “took a franchise that no one wanted to play for and turned it around” notion been attributed just as much to Reggie White?

          After all, Reggie, who was the hottest free agent 1993, shocked just about everyone when he signed with Green Bay, a team NO ONE figured had a chance to land him. Favre was already there, and it’s not like he made a highly publicized decision to go to Green Bay; he was traded there by the Falcons. (His “highly publicized decisions” would come much later in his career)

          The fact that Reggie went to Green Bay worked for them because suddenly other players and free agents took notice of it, and then when they won in 1997, I remember all the press at the time heaping praise on White just as much as Favre for transforming the Packers.

          Not to take anything away from Favre. There was a stretch of about 6 years where Favre was THE best player in the whole of the NFL, as evidenced by his 3 MVP trophies. But I think the whole turning around of the franchise, at least up to an including the SB XXXI victory, was due to Reggie White as much as Favre.

        • NE | February 7, 2011 at 4:28 pm |

          George, Your absolutely right on everything you wrote. Im just tired of all the favre haters. They almost look at him like an ex-girlfriend who dumped them (Im f/ WI)… The war is over.

        • Chance Michaels | February 7, 2011 at 5:27 pm |

          I don’t think it’s quite over. The next time the Vikings play a game without #4 on the roster, then it’d be over.

          We understood him wanting to play, even if it wasn’t the Packers. But a lot of us took the desire to play specifically for the Vikings, and the machinations he used to get there, to be an attack on the organization, and by extention on us.

    • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 10:10 am |

      By such measurements that Marino guy was a real hack.


      • The Jeff | February 7, 2011 at 10:16 am |

        If only he’d put the ball down properly for that kick…

        • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 10:23 am |

          Aboslutely. How they could elect him to the HOF after something like that is just a travesty, isn’t it.


        • jdreyfuss | February 7, 2011 at 11:13 am |

          Laces out, Dan.

      • Kek | February 7, 2011 at 10:34 am |

        Give me a break Ricko, Marino was one of the most prolific passers in history and I’m not going to downplay his accomplishments simply because he didn’t win a Super Bowl. Favre, on the other hand became a complete diva even before the divorce with the Packers. I’m of the opinion that he was a highly overrated quarterback and got away with a lot of his gunslinger crap because so many in the media feel in love with him and never saw his flaws.

        All I’m saying is I hope the Green Bay fans will really appreciate this guy and hope he continues to blossom and eventually outshines Favre in Packer-lore.

        • Coleman | February 7, 2011 at 11:23 am |

          “All I’m saying is I hope the Green Bay fans will really appreciate this guy”

          Trust me, we do!!!

        • Tom Farley | February 7, 2011 at 11:28 am |

          Kek, many of us loved Rodgers well before yesterday. We could tell right away that he had tons of talent AND that he took much, much better care of the football than his predecessor. Urlacher’s pick in the NFC title game was shocking for how unusually bad a throw it was.

          I know I sure as hell appreciate going directly from a first-ballot Hall of Famer to a Super Bowl MVP.

          Last week, the Packers’ president said that they’ll reach out to Favre to retire his jersey when the time is right. Which I took to mean “when we’re reasonably certain he won’t get booed at the jersey-retirement ceremony.”

        • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 1:00 pm |

          And I’m asking why is it necessary to push Farve down in order to elevate Rodgers?

          I’d say Rodgers’ performance is doing just fine standing on its own.

          Who gives a shit about comparing the two. As Mike & Mike discussed this a.m….Starr, Favre and Rodgers have given the Packers three astounding quarterbacks in the Super Bowl era, where every other team can, at best, claim two.

          Montana-Young, Staubach-Aikman…etc. The list of teams is pretty short.


        • Chance Michaels | February 7, 2011 at 1:30 pm |

          I don’t know any Packer fans who put down Favre to elevate Rodgers.

          Besides, the whole thing seems more media-driven than anything else.

        • Tom Farley | February 7, 2011 at 2:36 pm |

          Kek, I also want to say this, Packer fan to Steeler fan: Mike Tomlin is a class act. He was incredibly gracious and complimentary to the Packers in defeat.

          Also, he’s obviously a great leader of men. The Rooneys are on quite a roll when it comes to selecting head coaches.

        • Coleman | February 7, 2011 at 2:56 pm |

          I’m with Chance. I’ve never heard a real Packers fan put down Favre to elevate Rodgers. We appreciate both of them completely separately from one another. It’s certainly a media thing in my opinion.

        • Kek | February 7, 2011 at 3:09 pm |

          Tom, two little things happened in the postgame that tell you all you need to know about the kind of man Mike Tomlin is.

          1. FOX was super impressed by the fact that he stood outside the locker room and met each player with some words and a handshake. When Chris Myers asked him about this he simply said “that’s standard business, we do that after every game”. Give FOX the benefit of the doubt, being the NFC network, they don’t do many Steelers’ games so they wouldn’t have known that.

          2. In the postgame press conference, when asked about that ridiculous decision to go for that long field goal, not only did he take the criticism head on and accept full responsibility but before he let the gathering ask on, he went out of his way to say kind words about Suisham (a guy that really did well in a very tough role this season) so as not to throw him under the bus. A lot of coaches would “accept full responsibility”, end it at that and move on, letting us fill in the blanks. Sometimes what’s unsaid is more telling that what is said. For him to go out of his way to say basically “but before I go any further let me tell you about how great this guy was for us this year”. A small gesture, but says tons about his character.

          We are very lucky, indeed to have a coach like Tomlin. I wouldn’t trade him for any other coach in the league. That’s real talk.

        • Gusto44 | February 7, 2011 at 4:57 pm |

          Kek, you’re right on the money. Tomlin has done a great job with the Steelers, and this may have been his best coaching job. This team could have easily been 1-3 after the first four games, and missed the playoffs completely.

          Tough loss in the super bowl, the mistakes and missed opportunities were the downfall, and Green Bay made the plays it needed in the crunch. Big Ben nearly pulled out another fourth quarter comeback, but the defense faltered in the end.

          The Steelers remain in great shape for the future, so
          we may see a rematch in 2012.

        • StLMarty | February 7, 2011 at 9:00 pm |

          Don’t forget Theisman-Williams-Rypien. Or Simms-Hostetler-Manning.

  • PuckBoy33 | February 7, 2011 at 9:23 am |


    It seems like part of the “V” in the LOVE sign during the Black-Eye Peas performance was burned out.

    • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 10:07 am |

      Am I the only one who thinks the sound man from the halftime show should have been fired on the spot?


      • LI Phil | February 7, 2011 at 10:08 am |

        you mean because it was on?

      • JimWa | February 7, 2011 at 10:10 am |

        Totally agreed. If you’re going to cut the audio in and out, do it during the National Anthem!!!

        • MPowers1634 | February 7, 2011 at 10:39 am |

          What about have of the V in LOVE not being lit?

        • Aaron | February 7, 2011 at 12:40 pm |

          WHERE IS THE LO\E?

        • JimWa | February 7, 2011 at 3:03 pm |

          What’s love got to do with it?

  • Dawn | February 7, 2011 at 9:33 am |

    Bakerella posted a Steelers-themed dessert table. It’s pretty awesome, but she’s a pro.

    • Hank-SJ | February 7, 2011 at 2:01 pm |

      Impressive. Almost a crime to eat those goodies.

  • Adam | February 7, 2011 at 9:33 am |

    Nice cake by Scott Peterson. I thought he was on death row? Nice to see that’s not holding him back.

  • Matt B | February 7, 2011 at 9:42 am |

    Re Bucks throwbacks — Bango’s back!!! PTL.

    • Big Al | February 7, 2011 at 9:47 am |

      “And that’ll do it for this NFL season.”

      “And that’ll do it until 2012.”


      • Big Al | February 7, 2011 at 9:48 am |

        “Morons” referring to those involved in the labor dispute.

    • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 10:04 am |

      Said it before.
      If there’s no 2011 season (which I still think is entirely possible)…
      And the Mayans are correct about December 12, 2012…

      We’ve all just watched the final Super Bowl.


      • The Jeff | February 7, 2011 at 10:11 am |

        It’s December 21, not December 12… if you want to believe that garbage.

      • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 10:17 am |

        You’re right. Flat-out typo/transposition of numbers. It’s the solstice.

        I was merely trying to create some additional wailing, weeping, teeth gnashing and hand-wringing. Add to the angst.

        Although, for a lot of people the world will already have come to an end if there’s no 2011 NFL season, so I suppose it’s not that big a deal.


      • DenverGregg | February 7, 2011 at 2:24 pm |

        There’s a non-trivial chance that, even if the Mayan-calendar hype goes the way of several other predictions of the end of the world, we have seen the last Minnesota Vikings game. Raise a glass to Joe Kapp, Sammy White, Chuck Foreman et al.

        • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 2:29 pm |

          That, too.

        • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 2:31 pm |

          And to think that, if that IS the case, the final home game will have been played…outdoors, of all places.


        • RS Rogers | February 7, 2011 at 3:41 pm |

          I can live with the Vikings relocating, especially if the game at TCF is their last. These things happen, and the NFL will be back to Minnesota someday. But for the love of pete, please, LA, if you’re gonna steal another Minnesota team, have the good sense to leave the name and colors behind. There are no more Vikings in the City of Angels than there are lakes.

        • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 6:31 pm |

          That, quite likely, will be entirely up the Wilfs…unless it’s a condition of the move (as in the Browns Anomaly), and I’m not positive we’d see that happening again.

          Were I them, I would expect to be handsomely compensated—one way or another—for such things. After all, the equity in them, and the market value of them, were part of what we bought.


  • C Thiele | February 7, 2011 at 9:59 am |

    The College of Siskiyous squad’s abbreviation appears to be made out of an old Indian’s “C,” Ohio State block “O,” and White Sox “S” – maybe the first case of triple logo theft in one uniform?

    • jdreyfuss | February 7, 2011 at 11:15 am |

      Don’t forget them using the beach blanket layout, even if the colors are different.

    • DenverGregg | February 7, 2011 at 2:03 pm |

      Doesn’t Siskiyou sound like something Popeye would say?

  • JimWa | February 7, 2011 at 10:08 am |

    My observations:

    1. One thing that bothered me all night was the “mowing pattern” on the field. I’m not sure why field turf has to be leaned on way or another (I’m pretty sure none of us are fooled into thinking it’s real grass), but on the field, where the SB logos were positioned, the turf was pushed “away”, making for a shoddy looking on-field SB XLV logo.

    2. If you were an executive at CBS or NBC, wouldn’t you have been thankful not to be airing the game where those on field championship hats were worn? The X in XLV looked an awful lot like the Fox searchlight, IMO.

    3. (not necessarily SB related) What happens to the painted on-field graphics? On a grass field, the grass grows, gets cut, and the graphics naturally go away. Do they just keep putting layers and layers of paint in the same places on a field-turf field?

    • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 10:12 am |

      There’s a zamboni-like device that, I believe, uses special chemicals and quite literally “vacuums” up the paint.


    • Coleman | February 7, 2011 at 10:28 am |

      I’d like to know about number one as well. I was talking with my buddy about it last night and at first I thought maybe it was different turf for the SB logo areas, but the SB logo is wider than the different turf, so that’s probably out.

    • Jim TN | February 7, 2011 at 10:37 am |

      Story about paint removal at the Superdome. Jerry’s Place in Arlington probably uses the same or a similar company/process.

      • Coleman | February 7, 2011 at 11:08 am |

        that video was cool as hell.

  • Brandon Sims | February 7, 2011 at 10:15 am |

    Hey UWers!

    Does anyone here know much about Harv-Al Athletics? I was given a custom Texas Tech baseball jersey made by them ( I’m not the hugest fan of this jersey but I’m assuming that not alot of money was put into it (Case-in-point: The Double T shoulder logo.) and I was wondering if they were a local company cause I needed something made. So I went to look them up and it turns out, they are! If you live in Winnipeg… I just find it confusing that I (in Texas) could wind up with a jersey made by a company that operates locally out of Winnipeg.

    Anybody know anything about them?

    Brandon Sims

    • Teebz | February 7, 2011 at 10:25 am |

      I know quite a bit about them. I’ve dealt with them on a number of jersey outfitting projects for teams I’ve been on.

      Overall, they do decent work as far as I’ve been concerned. They have professional-looking stuff right down to “this will last the first half of your game” stuff in terms of the products they carry.

      What specifically would you like to know, Brandon?

  • Cupps | February 7, 2011 at 10:25 am |

    Anyone else notice that when the teams came onto the field at the beginning that several of the banners hanging with team logos were backwards? I’m not 100% sure about the Steelers, but the Packers had several backwards G’s hanging about.

    No DVR, or else I would’ve sent a picture.

  • MPowers1634 | February 7, 2011 at 10:27 am |

    “Annoying Passat Ad”! That was my favorite ad of the Super Bowl besided the Transformers trailer.

    • MPowers1634 | February 7, 2011 at 10:30 am |

      “Annoying Passat Ad”! That was my favorite ad of the Super Bowl besided the Transformers trailer.


      Uni-observations made my by friends and family:

      1. There sure is alot of yellow in this game.
      2. Wow, are those helmets supposed to have different shaped earholes?
      3. Are their pants supposd to be that short, where are the pads?

  • Jonathan Sluss | February 7, 2011 at 10:30 am |

    unfortunately, that was not Jack Buck, rather his not so deserving of being a sportscaster son

  • Coleman | February 7, 2011 at 10:32 am |

    Is it me or is this the cheapest, most boring Super Bowl Champions hat in a looooong time?

    (I’m still buying it though)

  • Kyle in Tampa | February 7, 2011 at 10:33 am |

    Minor housekeeping tidbit: Joe Buck called the Super Bowl, not the legendary Jack. Also, he seemed much more excited on the big-play calls than usual.

  • Broadway Connie | February 7, 2011 at 10:41 am |

    OK. So I think we are through discussing the uni/logo/icon dimensions of yesterday’s (really pretty good) game and (characteristically booby) flyovers, anthems, spectacles, etcetera. Right? Oh, sorry, special mention for that lump-in-throat montage with Michael Douglas.

    Now back to the stuff that matters.

    First off, there’s Paul with a mild but unprecedented (I think) Ricko parenthesis:

    “…(Cue Ricko saying, “I remember that game like it was yesterday. I started with the CBS broadcast, but the signal was a little static-y and I didn’t feel like climbing up on the roof to adjust the antenna (most of you probably don’t realize every house had a TV antenna on the roof in those days – there was no internet either, just so you know), so I switched to NBC. And then…”)

    And no reply!

    Also a wealth of interesting ticker material:

    1. Princeton hockey goalie with a terrific looking cheese-simulating map of Wisconsin on the back of her helmet.

    2. Baugh’s Animal Bone Fertilizer.

    3. Amazing vintage photos from Black 5s.

    4. Milwaukee Bucks throwbacks. (Cool)

    5. Chronological saga of the long development of the “alternate logo” of Colorado State, as told by the guy who did it. To me — and maybe to me alone — the most interesting part of the story was the contrast between the evident satisfaction of the creator with the way things turned out and the near-steady decline in artfulness and attractiveness of the designs over time. I’m glad the guy finally made a dollar from lots of work, but jeez, just another “tough” mascot…

    • LI Phil | February 7, 2011 at 10:50 am |

      guess that ellipses three dot thing was just a one shot, eh?


      • Broadway Connie | February 7, 2011 at 11:03 am |

        Can’t help it, Phil. Brevity is hard. Probably apocryphal story of Voltaire witing a long long letter to Catherine the Great, at the end of which he wrote: I must apologize to Your Majesty as to the length of this missive. I didn’t have time to make it short….”

        • RS Rogers | February 7, 2011 at 11:13 am |

          Not apocryphal statement to the same end, by Woodrow Wilson, responding to an invitation to give a speech: “If I am to speak ten minutes, I need a week for preparation; if fifteen minutes, three days; if half an hour, two days; if an hour, I am ready now.”

      • Teebz | February 7, 2011 at 11:05 am |

        Broadway Blueshirt Connie is showing off various writing styles, illustrating the vast knowledge of skills and talents that this community personifies.

        Or it was just a one-time thing. LOL

    • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 11:10 am |

      Only reason I keep mentioning the absense of the Internet (etc.) in the past is that there seem to be so many who NEED constant reminding, who live in world where everything now is the way it’s always been.

      And who can’t get outside themselves enough to even imagine that it was different.

      For example, when I get home tonight I’m going to possibly offer up evidence that a minor but still significant point about Steeler uni history as posted elsewhere on the Internet, and discussed in the comments yesterday, is inaccurate. At least that might be the case. Won’t know until I dig around in the Ricko Files for a few minutes. I could be wrong, but something occured to me this a.m., and I need to do some checking.

      And I’ll do it all without the Internet. Not being self-congratulatory now, not at all, just saying maybe it will alert us once again that just because something’s on the Internet doesn’t mean it’s true.


      • Tom Farley | February 7, 2011 at 11:34 am |

        Amen, brother. “I did a Google search, and found this Wikipedia page” does not come close to equaling “research.”

      • Rob S | February 7, 2011 at 4:54 pm |

        I managed to get by without the Internet until 1999, so that was until I was 22… and then, I got on through my local library until I finally got myself a modern computer in early 2000. (Until then, all I had was my old Apple //c, but I got a lot of use out of that thing.)

        Back then, I actually looked forward to SportsCenter, and agonized over waiting for score updates. How things have changed….

        • Rob S | February 7, 2011 at 4:55 pm |

          Should be 24 instead of 22. I can’t seem to calculate my own age… >_<

  • JimWa | February 7, 2011 at 10:44 am |

    One more thing … Is there any chance that of whoever is in charge of coming up with Super Bowl logos had come up with one that just SCREAMS Cowboys Stadium, passed in on specifically for this game, then later someone in the NFL home offices thought, “Wow. Now THAT’S an iconic design. Why don’t we start using that for EVERY Super Bowl logo from now on?”

  • Kevin | February 7, 2011 at 10:45 am |

    The opponent in the Leeds, Ala. photograph is Piedmont, Ala. Its tough to tell but they use the Purdue “P” helmet logo, gold on blue.

  • urbanleftbehind | February 7, 2011 at 10:46 am |

    The Milwaukee Bucks should open merchandise shops in Mexico or at least ship their clearance throwback gear to vendors stationed near Mexico vs. _________ soccer games in the States.

  • Perry | February 7, 2011 at 10:46 am |

    Regarding the Upshaw kicking photo, teams didn’t have kickoff specialists in the 60s, with a 40-man roster limit. Either the placekicker did the job or else a regular player did (and in fact some FG/XP kickers were regular players into the 60s). George Blanda was the Raiders’ FG kicker (and backup QB) early in Upshaw’s career, but he was in his 40s and it wouldn’t surprise me if they had used Upshaw or some other player other than Blanda to handle kickoffs.

    • Erin | February 7, 2011 at 6:10 pm |

      According to the play-by-play in the gamebooks, Upshaw handled kickoffs for the first two games of the 1967 season. After that, Mike Eischeid did the kicking off.

  • =bg= | February 7, 2011 at 11:06 am |

    New Giants sleeve patch: Didn’t know that, where was that announced? (It’s the same as the one on the home jerseys)

    Also: the link to the World Series patch appears MIA. I know they’ve been selling those for awhile now- I am conflicted as I am going to by a home jersey- a real one- and don’t know whether or not to get a version with the WS patch.

  • Coleman | February 7, 2011 at 11:11 am |
    • Coleman | February 7, 2011 at 11:19 am |

      Sorry for posting all this Packers stuff, but I think I get a pass today right?

      Cool pin set here, and the site doesn’t have the SB one updated with the score of the game yet…

    • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 11:34 am |

      Well, let’s include Aaron Rodgers in the discussion. After the game last night he said, “I bleed green and gold.”

      What a moron. Doesn’t even know his team wears green and yellow.


      • Coleman | February 7, 2011 at 11:49 am |

        Wikipedia says their colors are green and gold. That settles it doesn’t it? ;)

      • The Jeff | February 7, 2011 at 11:51 am |

        I wonder if this argument exists outside of sports.

        If I go to my local Wal-mart and browse the spray paint aisle, the only colors I’m going to find with “Gold” printed on them are metallic. Anything resembling Packers “gold” is going to be labeled something like Sunburst Yellow or some equally cheesy name.

        I don’t care how many teams shorten the name or are afraid of saying “yellow”, “Gold” and “Athletic Gold” are two entirely different colors. Forum Blue was Purple, and Nautical Blue (Patriots) and Millennium Blue (Rams) are Navy.

        I think the Packers ought to update their color names anyway. Green & Gold are kinda generic sounding. Forest and Cheddar would be great team colors. :)

        • Coleman | February 7, 2011 at 11:58 am |

          Forest and Cheddar!!! I think a petition should be started for that one.

        • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 12:28 pm |

          How ’bout Forrest and Gregg (hey, if we can call any color anything we want…)?

          They there’d be even one MORE thing people could fantasize the “G” stands for.


        • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 12:28 pm |

          Better than Forrest and Gump, anyway.

        • Geeman | February 7, 2011 at 3:07 pm |

          No, the agumenet doesn’t exist outside your mind. Like I’ve said, maybe you should join the Navy or the Marines, each of which shares the color gold, which looks suspiciously like the color worn by the Packers and Steelers. You think the Navy and Marines know something about tradition and heritage?

        • Geeman | February 7, 2011 at 3:09 pm |

          Sorry, I meant ARGUMENT. Fat-fingers strikes again.

      • DenverGregg | February 7, 2011 at 2:21 pm |

        Green and Banana, that way you still have GB. Although I do like the tribute to the man whom Vince Lombardi called the greatest football player he had ever seen.

    • Coleman | February 7, 2011 at 9:18 pm |

      here are two songs that got pretty popular, and they can help the argument, as they both say different things…

      These are both rap songs, mild cursing involved:
      Green and Gold argument…

      Green and Yellow…

      these are both rap songs, mild cursing involved:

  • Damon | February 7, 2011 at 11:11 am |


    Maybe as a Texas Tech alum, I find it hard not to love that baseball jersey. It’s a top we wore a while (7-10 years) back. The Double T on the shoulder is actually the old version which was replaced in 2001 I believe. Don’t know much about the company, but I haven’t seen one of those jerseys in a long time. Enjoy it!

    • Brandon Sims | February 7, 2011 at 11:39 am |

      The jersey as a whole is great! And I am also disappointed that they stopped using the jersey. The only complaint I have is that the numbering and shadowing is polyester. As far as the logo goes I think the old one ( is different than mine (

      Also, nice to see a fellow red raider here. We don’t tend to get a lot of love :)

    • Jeff Franklin | February 7, 2011 at 11:57 am |

      That is cool that they have found most of the SB I game.

      Along with that game, I would like to see the NFL release the Super Bowl III game on DVD too.

  • =bg= | February 7, 2011 at 11:14 am |

    PS- in GB, they’re asking for volunteers to shovel the stadium. And in this live webcam shot, you can see the volunteers are arriving now.

  • Vincent | February 7, 2011 at 11:15 am |

    For the NFL experience/mannequin, I guess the all-white socks were the fruit of laziness of manufacturers.
    But for the white sleeves, I have to think it is because of color of skin. Having only one mannequin per team, they didn’t want to have a white fan head with black arms or the other way around IMO. This should explain that.
    Either way, great SB, great unis, the good guy prevailed.

  • Justin | February 7, 2011 at 11:25 am |

    Majestic has a Facebook page, and they have been unveiling the 2011 BP jerseys. It appears that the Pirates are going with a Gold / yellow jersey this season.

    • Boomtown | February 7, 2011 at 12:30 pm |

      That’s a great looking jersey!

      • Gusto44 | February 7, 2011 at 4:41 pm |

        Agreed, I’ve been wanting the Bucs to use a gold BP jersey for years. It’s been a good offseason, first the 1960 World Series Game 7 dvd, and now this.

  • JTH | February 7, 2011 at 11:27 am |

    Darth Vader certainly is a windsocker.

    I thought he was a Raiders fan.

    Pick a lane, Anakin.

    • The Jeff | February 7, 2011 at 11:33 am |

      Of course Darth Vader is a Raiders fan. Al Davis is Emperor Palpatine, after all.

      Steeler-Vader is just some guy in a silly costume.

      • JTH | February 7, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
      • The Jeff | February 7, 2011 at 12:30 pm |

        …change that to Packer-Vader.

        Where the hell is my mind at today?

    • Flip | February 7, 2011 at 12:18 pm |

      Both of those fans are sporting some awesome sleeve stripes; though the accuracy of Darth Vader’s can be called into question.

  • LI Phil | February 7, 2011 at 11:28 am |

    two best tweets (that i saw) from last night’s halftime show:

    from craig robertson (@flipflopflying): “I think the terrorists won.”


    john lewis sims (@alsoigrowgrapes): “Really, Steven hawking uses less auto-tune than the black eyed peas”

    the last one had me laughing for five minutes…

    • Brandon Sims | February 7, 2011 at 11:42 am |

      Haha!!! John Lewis is my brother. He has no clue what this blog is. Crazy! :)

    • =bg= | February 7, 2011 at 12:58 pm |

      Steven hawking uses less auto-tune than the black eyed peas

      Funniest Tweet ever.

    • StLMarty | February 7, 2011 at 9:08 pm |

      Did Craig Robertson steal my No Mas t-shirt idea?
      And people thought it was too soon.

  • Chance Michaels | February 7, 2011 at 11:30 am |

    Paul, here’s a better look at the Super Bowl I ring shank, with its NFL/AFL mashup logo. The pick comes from Heritage Auctions, which featured the salesman’s sample ring a few years ago.

    Recent reports have said that the shape of the crown comes from Vince Lombardi’s family crest.

    • Chance Michaels | February 7, 2011 at 11:31 am |

      “pick” = “pic”. Sorry, can’t imagine why I’m a little frazzled this morning.

      • Tom Farley | February 7, 2011 at 11:36 am |

        It’s baffling, you being frazzled today …

    • Paul Lukas | February 7, 2011 at 11:35 am |

      Interesting to see that among all the iconic words on that ring (Harmony, Courage, Valor), the word “Greatness” is nowhere to be found.

      Just sayin’.

      • Tom Farley | February 7, 2011 at 11:38 am |

        From all I’ve read about Lombardi — and I’ve read a ridiculous amount — it seems as though he would’ve said that greatness was something you demonstrated rather than proclaimed. Show me, don’t tell me.

        • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 1:08 pm |

          Yes, and upon being offered the idea of adding a “G” to the Packers’ helmet it’s a good bet he said something really deep, like, “Sure. Fine. Looks good. Whatever.”

          On accounta he probably had a real good handle on where his office was located.


      • Broadway Connie | February 7, 2011 at 11:40 am |

        What’s the difference between “courage” and “valor”?

        • LI Phil | February 7, 2011 at 11:57 am |

          ask tiki to esplain it

        • Broadway Connie | February 7, 2011 at 12:41 pm |

          Called Tiki, who pulled down his copy of the Oxford English Dictionary. Courage = “That quality of mind which shows itself in facing danger without fear or shrinking; bravery, boldness, valour.” Valour = “The quality of mind which enables a person to face danger with boldness or firmness; courage or bravery.”

          About as close to synonyms as you can get. Which opens the door to questions about Lombardi as pompous as well as eloquent, maybe something of a vocabulary show-off who wants to demonstrate that jocks can be learned. I don’t want to get on the wrong side of Brother Farley, but…

        • Jim Vilk | February 7, 2011 at 1:14 pm |

          Someone oughta start a website full of made-up info and call it Tikipedia…

        • Chance Michaels | February 7, 2011 at 1:45 pm |

          I suspect that Lombardi was striving for something which implied “virtue” without necessarily using the word.

        • LI Phil | February 7, 2011 at 1:50 pm |

          Someone oughta start a website full of made-up info and call it Tikipedia


          there already is one

        • Jim Vilk | February 7, 2011 at 2:00 pm |

          “Who’s does Tiki Barber and the Giants playe next??”


        • RS Rogers | February 7, 2011 at 3:35 pm |

          “Valor” is basically synonymous with “courage,” except that in normal usage, “valor” is typically reserved for military contexts, or courage displayed in the midst of performing heroic actions at the risk of one’s life. We often speak of soldiers or firefighters or cops displaying or being honored for “valor.”

          So +1 to the Pompous Lombardi theory. No real difference between Nike’s whole “Pro Combat” thing and Lombardi using the word “valor” to describe grown men playing a children’s game. Whatever courage one displays on a football field, that’s not valor.

        • Chance Michaels | February 7, 2011 at 5:29 pm |

          I’m sorry, that I cannot agree with.

          There’s a difference between occasionally using a word that has some (but not exclusive) military useage and marketing military-themed merchandise. A world of difference.

        • RS Rogers | February 7, 2011 at 5:48 pm |

          Chance, you’re just saying that because it’s Lombardi. If it were, I don’t know, Denny Green pretending that he and his players were all gung-ho soldiers who deserved the Congressional Medal of Honor for playing a children’s game for money once a week, you’d be all over it like Paul on a Nike Humvee.

          (Kidding, BTW, in case it’s not clear!)

        • Broadway Connie | February 7, 2011 at 6:19 pm |

          Seems like we agree that standard definitions of courage and valor make them synonymous, but that common usage confers upon “valor” a specific reference to bravery committed when in military uniform. Good point, Scott.

          I too deplore the whole patriotic/military bit when applied to sporting games. For what it’s worth, I speak as a former professor of Military History. You may be right, Chance, that Lombardi was trying to say something about virtue (virtu in Italian manly Renaissance talk), but he usually used “character” for those occasions. And “Harmony, Courage, Character” would have been a most Lombardian locution.

          But that’s not what the ring says. It says “valor,” which is either redundant with “courage” (and, hence, pompous) or wrong-headed borrowing from martial traditions for athletic purposes.

          Look, I know that it doesn’t really matter much. And — believe it or not — I’ve been guilty of pomposity and wrong-headedness myself a few times, occasionally in the same sentence. But it’s kinda fun hanging with you buys, and I must admit to Catholic-schooled irreverence about the grand Saint Vincent.

  • JimWa | February 7, 2011 at 11:35 am |
  • MPowers1634 | February 7, 2011 at 11:40 am |

    Funny catch…check out the name of the Steeler Storm Trooper:

    • Chance Michaels | February 7, 2011 at 11:45 am |

      That’d be a great online handle for a Steeler fan.

  • oilfan | February 7, 2011 at 11:46 am |

    George Canyon wearing the music note instead of number on his Flames jersey is nothing new, at least for Calgary. Their regular anthem singer, Heather Liscano has been wearing a Flames jersey with a music note on the back for a few years now, when she comes out to sing.

    • mike 2 | February 7, 2011 at 12:15 pm |

      Yes, but Liscano’s jersey only has the note on the back, not on the shoulders. So that one is a bit different.

  • Jonathan | February 7, 2011 at 11:46 am |

    Not sure if anyone yet caught it Paul, but that was Joe Buck last night, not Jack (when you mentioned Trent Dilfer’s tie). Wish both were still in the Cardinals’ radio booth.

    • dwight | February 7, 2011 at 12:10 pm |

      amen to joe and jack being on kmox!

  • rpm | February 7, 2011 at 11:59 am |

    we must have sent the salad from kate’s phone and not one of our emails making it tricky to know who it was beyond the digits. there was lot’s of packer themed food, but that salad designed by john murphy was my favourite.

  • LM | February 7, 2011 at 12:22 pm |

    Those ill looking mowing patterns in the turf were actually new sections of turf.
    The grounds crew had swapped out sections of the Cowboys home field with new turf for the Super Bowl graphics.
    It was distracting.
    I think if they had of laid the turf so that the grain had lain away from the cameras it would have looked lighter instead of darker, which in my opinion would have looked better.

  • Rob S | February 7, 2011 at 12:41 pm |

    I’ve seen the musical-note jersey with the Flames before. Can’t remember exactly who wore it, mind you, as I usually only watch Flames home games if they’re the second feature on Hockey Night in Canada or if the Red Wings are playing in Calgary, and about the only anthem singer I pay any attention to is Detroit’s own Karen Newman… but I do remember them doing it before.

    • Jim BC | February 7, 2011 at 1:53 pm |

      Yes – it’s been done before. I even think it was on the ticker a while back…

  • Glenn | February 7, 2011 at 1:06 pm |

    still regretting not getting a picture yesterday, but saw a guy wearing the white (road) Rodgers jersey with the Super Bowl XLV patch on it….hope he didn’t pay too much for that authenticity….

    • LI Phil | February 7, 2011 at 1:41 pm |

      perhaps he just bought the patch and ironed it on a pre-existing jersey?

      does that constitute a jersey fail?

      • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 1:49 pm |

        No, but it sure is iron-on-ic.

      • Glenn | February 7, 2011 at 1:49 pm |

        he might have done that, I don’t think so though….I was close enough to tell the rest of it was authentic (or a decent knockoff, but not a replica), but either way, I’d call it a fail :)

        • Johnny O | February 7, 2011 at 2:02 pm |

          In the winter months I work for a local sports collectable store here in Wisconsin. When the Packers beat the Bears in the NFC Championship my boss got on the phone with his supplier to order jerseys, shirts, hats, and all that stuff. Even since the holidays, it has been tough to get home/green Rodgers, Driver, Woodson, and Matthews jerseys. My boss asked his rep how long it would take to get the green jerseys with the Super Bowl logo on them. His rep said ‘about a month’. Obviously he wanted jerseys to sell in the store for the two weeks leading up to the Super Bowl, so he asked how long it would take to get the away/white jerseys with the Super Bowl logo on them, the rep replied, ‘I can send those out today because nobody really wants them’. Well, he ordered 200 away Matthews jerseys, and 200 women’s cut Matthews jerseys (The rep kind of lied because he only had Matthews in white in stock). Within one week, we had all but 10 jerseys left out of 400. (We also do online sales)

          So in conclusion, I am sure that is what happened with that guy. It has been tough to get home/green (authentic) jerseys here in Wisconsin since the holidays because there has been so much demand for them all year, and a lot of store brought the away/white ones in because they were the only ones available.

        • Mark K | February 7, 2011 at 8:01 pm |

          all but 10 left or all but 10 sold??

        • Johnny O | February 7, 2011 at 8:50 pm |

          All but 10 left. All of them were either size small or medium, and I am sure even those were snagged up before Super Bowl Sunday.

  • Jim Vilk | February 7, 2011 at 1:16 pm |

    And here I thought John Kuhn was just bringing out his inner Steeler.

    • Chance Michaels | February 7, 2011 at 1:47 pm |

      That’s a great line. May I borrow it for my blog?

      • Jim Vilk | February 7, 2011 at 1:49 pm |

        Sure. And congrats.

        • Chance Michaels | February 7, 2011 at 1:59 pm |

          Done. And thanks!

        • LI Phil | February 7, 2011 at 2:07 pm |

          i was a packer fan yesterday … where’s my congrats?

          actually, chance deserves mucho congrats for yesterday’s amazing Packer Uni timeline

          now THAT was the shit

        • Jim Vilk | February 7, 2011 at 2:19 pm |

          That was yesterday, Phil. What have you done for me lately? ;)

          Chance, you’re welcome…and thanks – for the attribution and for your timeline.

        • JTH | February 7, 2011 at 2:23 pm |

          Phil will be rooting for the Cavs tonight…

          …to continue that amazing streak of theirs.

        • Jim Vilk | February 7, 2011 at 2:41 pm |

          If it weren’t for his Knicks, the streak could have been 34 or 35 by now. So thanks for that, Phil.

      • Johnny O | February 7, 2011 at 2:14 pm |

        Chance was amazing in his Packer Uni Timeline. People in the past have made fun of me for my in depth and random knowledge of the Packers, however, I went on about a 10 minute rant of the history of the Packers in front of about 20 people prior to the Super Bowl, and they were amazed and thought it was pretty sweet I knew all that. I have to give credit to Chance and his blog, because without that, I wouldn’t have a lot of reference.

        Oh, and kudos to you Phil, for being a Packer fan yesterday =)

      • Tom Farley | February 7, 2011 at 2:27 pm |

        Yes: Chance, stupendous job on the Packers’ uni timeline. I’m sure it was a labor of love, but it was labor nonetheless. Thank you.

    • Chuck | February 7, 2011 at 11:28 pm |

      I must be a delusional Cleveland fan, but that looks like a Browns helmet to me! :-)

  • Pat | February 7, 2011 at 1:44 pm |

    It might have already been said but I’m posting this before reading the boards. Those digi-camo shirts they were wearing looked gray on the tv I was watching. Maybe you should check your color settings. Or maybe it’s just that your purple paranoia is getting the best of you. Either way they were most definitely gray.

    • Chance Michaels | February 7, 2011 at 1:46 pm |

      And just as definitely ugly.

      • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 1:52 pm |

        For 2011 (assuming there’s a 2011 season) the shirts will look like Woody from TOY STORY.

        Hey, if they can play solider this year, they can play cowboy next year.


    • Jim BC | February 7, 2011 at 1:50 pm |

      Those hideous shirts were full on purple on my T.V.

      No matter the colour – they were A-W-F-U-L!

  • Johnny O | February 7, 2011 at 1:55 pm |

    I love all my friends, but a group of about 12 of us have gotten together every week this postseason to watch the Packers, and EVERY SINGLE GAME, someone has asked out loud, “OMG is it raining? Yeah, I think it’s raining because the Packers have rain drops on their helmets.” (obviously referring to the ‘sparkle’ finish on their helmets) And yes, these questions came last night (in a dome), and in Atlanta (in a dome). Without being condescending, I answered them appropriately.

    Go Pack go. I am on cloud nine here in Wisconsin. Hasn’t really sunk in yet. I agree that the locker room merchandise is pretty ugly. I might get a hat to display, but will wait to see what others come out with as far as Super Bowl Champion stuff is concerned. Although does have some cool stuff already.

    Also, if you are a fan of the Packers or Badgers and have not been to yet, you must. (They are having a ton of traffic right now, so the link may not work, but keep trying, it’s worth it)

    Throw on the championship belt:

    • Coleman | February 7, 2011 at 3:17 pm |

      WOW, how did I not know about that site?!?!

      Thank you!

  • Fred | February 7, 2011 at 3:17 pm |
  • Kyle Allebach | February 7, 2011 at 3:30 pm |

    I’m surprised by the lack of Super Bowl patches peeling, unless they were secretly sewn on or attached with super-glue instead of iron on. A lot of iron-on patches I’ve had peeled after one year at least.

    Otherwise, the gold vs. gold pants killed my eyes on my small tube TV. Even though you would think the different jersey and helmet colors would help me differentiate, I still had major problems until FOX changed camera angles. Did this happen to anyone else?

  • McButton | February 7, 2011 at 3:38 pm |

    No screen grabs, but by my count, Mike McCarthy had at least three different marker colors. Red, green and blue, anyone else notice this?

    • rpm | February 7, 2011 at 3:43 pm |

      i can confirm red and green.

  • Paul Gaiser | February 7, 2011 at 3:43 pm |

    although the denver orange jerseys are better than the blue, i don’t like the move. Why? It seems like whenever a team changes their primary from dark jersey to light jersey, the dark jersey vanishes completely. (ie titans, falcons)

    • pflava | February 7, 2011 at 4:33 pm |

      What’s wrong with the dark Denver jerseys disappearing?

    • LI Phil | February 7, 2011 at 4:44 pm |

      1. there’s nothing wrong with the blue jerseys going the way of the dodo

      2. when you make a jersey your “alt,” you can only wear it 2x (in season) and once in the pre-season, so they don’t vanish completely, but will be rare — i’m pretty sure the titans wore their dark blue twice this year

      3. the falcons have worn their throwbacks the past two seasons, so i’m assuming they’ve designated that to be their “alt” — which means the black jersey HAD to go

      you can still (probably) count on the broncos to wear their blue two times next season (if there is a season)

      • Joseph Gerard | February 7, 2011 at 5:41 pm |

        I dont think the Titans wore the navy jerseys at all this past year.

        Also, it said 2012. I’m assuming thus is an Elway-related move. He rejoined the team after the deadline to make changes for 2011 passed. I know that he personally vetoed the monochrome blue look as a player, so I don’t think the blue pants are coming back.

        • LI Phil | February 7, 2011 at 9:54 pm |

          well…sunova…i just went thru a whole season of titans game shots, and i stand corrected — not once did they wear the navy tops…in fact, they wore almost exclusively white over powder and powder over navy…one time they wore white over navy

          very surprising — not once did they go monochrome (either all powder or all navy), although every time they wear the navy pants it looks like ballet tights; and i guess those white pants are permanently retired too…

          the white over powder is one of the best looks in football, but that powder over navy is one of the worst…if they’d just stick to navy over white at home and white over powder on the road, they’d have a pretty decent uni set

      • StLMarty | February 7, 2011 at 9:14 pm |

        I hope they switch to orange numbers on their white jerseys.

    • DenverGregg | February 7, 2011 at 5:07 pm |

      Orange at home and blue on the road with white (mostly) disappearing? That would be pretty sweet.

  • =bg= | February 7, 2011 at 3:45 pm |

    from another blog I frequent:
    The Giants swapped the patches on the orange and away jerseys. The orange jerseys will now have last year’s road patch, and the road jerseys will have last year’s orange patch.

  • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 5:37 pm |
  • Joseph Gerard | February 7, 2011 at 5:37 pm |

    I dont think the Broncos shouldve abandoned orange to begin with. I think the blue jerseys should be chucked altogether, and their third uniform should be the AFL Legacy throwbacks, yellow jersey & verically-striped socks and all.

  • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 5:44 pm |

    This guy may have delivered the oddest Pro Football HOF speech of all time but, damn, he was fun to watch…


  • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 5:51 pm |

    Told you how unknown NFL players were, even the immediate aftermath of the GGEP.
    Imagine an NFL player “signing in” and being so unknown today.


    • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 5:57 pm |

      I correct myself. Was about a month BEFORE the GGEP.

    • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 6:00 pm |

      Greatest slow WR who ever lived, lol…


      • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 6:07 pm |

        This guy, too. But he was a bit quicker.


        • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 6:14 pm |

          When I saw this catch live on TV, I thought it was one of the most remarkable I’d seen (up til that time, of course). Nice to know someone else saw it that way, too.


        • Gusto44 | February 7, 2011 at 6:20 pm |

          Always struck me as odd how Biletikoff finished his career with Montreal of the CFL. They must have offered him a ton of cash, seeing Biletikoff in that red,white, and blue uniform was jarring.

          Same deal with Don Maynard in the WFL, it’s extremely rare to see an NFL hall of famer finish in another league.

        • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 6:24 pm |

          Sonofagun, saw #2-#5 live on a TV as they happened (a lot of us here may have).
          And, while I appreciate #1, there’s a lot of happenstance to it. I think #2 remains the greatest catch I’ve ever seen.
          There is, however, still a catch Raymond Berry made against the Lions in Detroit that I have yet to see again. It was absolutely amazing (it’s not one of those here, sadly).


        • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 6:37 pm |

          Lotta people forget the Cardinals were Don Maynard’s last NFL team.


        • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 6:39 pm |
        • Ricko | February 7, 2011 at 6:42 pm |

          As to Biletnikoff playing for Montreal, he wasn’t lured away.

          The Raiders released him.


  • Beau | February 7, 2011 at 6:51 pm |

    Did anyone else catch the pre-game discussion between Cowboys legends Jerry Jones, Jimmie Johnson, Troy Aikman, Daryl Johnston, and Michael Irvin? They brought up a story about how Jerry proposed new uniforms before their second straight Super Bowl appearance. It was funny listening to them laugh about it. Is there an illustration somewhere of a proposed design at the time?

    • LI Phil | February 7, 2011 at 7:02 pm |
      • Rob S | February 7, 2011 at 7:16 pm |

        Oh, Phil, good God, no! Arrrrrrrrgh!

    • Rob S | February 7, 2011 at 7:15 pm |

      Interesting, considering they introduced the “Double Star” jerseys in the 1994 season, although they only appeared in a few games in 1994 and 1995.

  • rpm | February 7, 2011 at 7:24 pm |

    1962 haystack gang pretty sweet pixture, no?

  • daveclt | February 7, 2011 at 8:35 pm |

    If anything, I’d guess that the purple ties were used so the announcers wouldn’t show favoritism to the AFC (red) or NFC (blue). If that is the case, then someone is over-thinking things a bit too much.

  • walter | February 7, 2011 at 9:20 pm |

    To my eyes, it looks like the new Super Bowl patch is following the NBA template. Much smaller, unchanging, just like the Larry Brown trophy patch during the Finals. Not a bad move given the reduced real estate of new football uniforms.
    Was I the only one who had trouble seeing the football against the FieldTurf backdrop? Perhaps those of you with hi-def had better luck.

  • JTH | February 7, 2011 at 10:20 pm |

    Heh. Driving home tonight, I heard some dipshit calling in to the ESPN radio afternoon show talking about the “rain droplets” he saw on the helmets in last night’s game.

    When the hosts reminded him that they were playing in a dome, he asked if it was really humid in there or something.

  • Jim Vilk | February 7, 2011 at 11:11 pm |


    SO close…but the Cavs went down 99-96. 25th loss in a row. They were almost the biggest story in Dallas this week.

    So, this is no longer the losingest Cavs uniform:
    Too bad, because this year’s team doesn’t deserve to be lumped in with the Stepien-era team.

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    Mark Wilson, winner of the PGA Tour’s Waste Management Phoenix Open, was sporting a cheesehead on Sunday in Phoenix. (He is from Menomenee Falls, WI)

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