Why Is This the Only Sport That Calls It ‘Third’ Jersey (instead of an alternate)?

Paul here, making a rare Saturday appearance. Just in time for holiday shopping season — what a coincidence! — two NHL teams have just unveiled their new third jerseys. Let’s take a look-see, beginning with the Blue Jackets, who unveiled their new jersey on Thanksgiving Eve:

This strikes me as an okay hockey uniform but not a particularly good Blue Jackets uniform. Very odd that they didn’t include any red in the design, and the circular crest is nice but feels like a lazy default. In fact, the whole uniform feels too familiar, and here’s why: It follow’s the NHL’s recent alt-jersey formula.

Meanwhile, the square number font veers into “What were they thinking?” territory and the slogan on the inner collar is an “Everyone else is doing it so why not us?” gimmick that has now officially become annoying. But the real kicker is the “JHM” memorial on the back collar, described in a press release like so:

To honor Blue Jackets founder John H. McConnell during the team’s 10th season, the initials JHM adorn the back of the neckline. The JHM edition of the jersey will only be worn by the team during the 2010-11 season. For jerseys sold at retail, the JHM will appear only on the initial production run, making it a true collectors’ edition. (Emphasis mine.)

How wonderful that Mr. McConnell’s death could be leveraged into a “collectors’ edition” jersey. Ka-ching! While I could be wrong, I believe this marks the first time a team has explicitly used a uniform memorial as a retail sales tool — a new low in marketing (or maybe just in American culture, period).

Next up: the Ducks, who unveiled their new jersey when they took the ice for last night’s game against the Blackhawks:

I love the web-“D” crest — been wanting them to go this route for years now. At first I thought the orange socks were a huge mistake, although now they’re growing on me. Definite mistakes: the hideous side panels, the yoke outline, and the bookended shoulder patches. All in all, a mixed bag. Want to learn more about the design process behind this one? Look here and here.

Uni Watch News Ticker: The Twins have quietly unveiled a new road alternate jersey. It’s fine, although I can’t say it excites me one way or the other. ”¦ A new basketball company called Point 3, which is devoted to innovative basketball apparel, is now open for business. ”¦ Hockey people have apparently been using the term “pick up our socks” for years and nobody’s noticed — until now (with thanks to Tris Wykes). ”¦ Although it’s come up in the comments, I’ve neglected to mention that Virginia Tech added truncated stripes to their white helmets last weekend. “A buddy of mine works in the equipment room and said they cut all the stripes by hand to get that look,” says Clark Ruhland. “It was just something different they wanted to do.” ”¦ Several people had mentioned to me that Owen Schmitt lost a big chunk of helmet paint during Sunday night’s Jints/Iggles game, and now Ryan Perkins has finally supplied a screen shot. ”¦ Nike is staging contests around the country to allow high schools to design their own Amateur Gamesmanship uniforms (with thanks to Brady Neal). ”¦ The Ravens will wear black jerseys on Sunday — and maybe black pants too. ”¦ Another college hoops team wearing gray at home: San Jose State. ”¦ Lots of photos of the Timberwolves’ new black alternate jersey here. ”¦ I’m intrigued by these socks. ”¦ Jeff Barak tipped me wise to the Bulldog Vintage blog, which includes a fair amount of sports-related content, including this Bears media guide and this old Princeton tee. ”¦ Remember the Fort Worth Cats strike-zone uni that we discussed a few months back? Mark Penxa used it as the basis of this awesome painting, which he was kind enough to give to me. Thanks, buddy! ”¦ New hoops uniforms for Rutgers, and they’re NNOB too (with thanks to Ryan Devine) ”¦ Lebron James apparently has a new logo, if you care about that kind of thing. ”¦ Letting your kid play football after he suffered a brain tumor doesn’t seem like the brightest idea. But at least it gives me an excuse to mention the special helmet that this kid wears. ”¦ Mmm, love this Pitt patch (nice find by Chris LaHaye). ”¦ Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Check out the massive helmet numbers worn by Louisville in the late 1950s. ”¦ Lebron James makes his return to Cleveland next Thursday. And if you’re planning on wearing something like this, you can think again. ”¦ Check out these fascinating TV numbers. Never seen them split by a stripe like that. Anyone know if the single-digit numbers were centered over the stripe or just on one side of it? (Rare non-rugby contribution from Eric Bangeman.) ”¦ Truly awful third jersey for the Portland Winterhawks (with thanks to Dan Kaempff). ”¦ Very unusual situation in Wednesday night’s New Mexico/Northwood basketball game, as Northwood’s starting five were numbered 1 through 5. “In 19 years in this business, I’ve never seen a starting lineup in numerical order like this,” says New Mexico communications director Frank Mercogliano. “The best part is their numbers matched their positions, so No. 1 was the one and so on, with the center or five-spot being No. 5. Amazing.” ”¦ Sensational chain-stitched Del Monte logo on this old bowling shirt. ”¦ New dress code for New York City cabbies. Interestingly, the article states that the earliest NYC cabbies “wore immaculate uniforms modeled after cadet clothes at West Point.” ”¦ Minnesota and North Dakota State went color-vs.-color on Wednesday (as noted by Peter Fischbach). ”¦ Speaking of color vs. color, Rob McLaughlin reports that the historic Boston Latin vs. Boston English game on Thanksgiving Day — the 124th annual edition of that rivalry — was a dark-on-dark disaster. “It led to terrible confusion on the opening kickoff, which English took back for a TD,” says Rob. ”¦ Brock Towler points out that the recent UNC/Minnesota hoops game had an unusual wrinkle: Each team had a player with a roman numeral in his NOB. That’s Larry Drew II of UNC and Ralph Sampson III of Minnesota. ”¦ Two Cleveland Indians cap notes from Kenny Crookston: First, check out this partial scan of the Tribe’s 1973 team portrait. Looks like the coaches and skipper in the front row had piping on their caps. I was not aware of the Indians using special caps for their coaching staff — anyone else..? And second, Kenny recently bought this 1918 Indians recplica cap from American Needle. See how the stripe extends below the C? That lower stripe wasn’t there back in the day, so Kenny used an Xacto knife to remove it. ’Course, the C still looks too big (at least ot me), but that’s not as easy to fix. ”¦ As you know, same-numbered college football teammates can’t appear on the field at the same time. This occasionally causes problems when a defensive and offensive player with the same number both need to be on the field for a special teams play. When that happens, one of the players usually grabs an NNOB jersey with a different number and puts it on over his regular jersey. Susan Freeman caught two Texas A+M players doing that on Thursday. You can see their real jerseys’ NOBs peeking through the temporary jerseys. ”¦ Still more color vs. color: Michigan vs. Syracuse last night. ”¦ Anyone know why Texas QB Garrett Gilbert would have “aTm” (i.e., Texas A&M) written on his wristband? (Good spot by Andy McNeel.) ”¦ Major, major find by Bruce Menard, who found this 1958 photo of all-time St. Louis all-stars. From left to right, that’s Dizzy Dean, Frankie Frisch, Rogers Hornsby, George Sisler, Stan Musial, Marty Marion, Terry Moore, Jesse Haines, Ken Williams, Jack Tobin, Hank Severeid, and Bob O’Farrell. Amazing shot.

118 comments to Why Is This the Only Sport That Calls It ‘Third’ Jersey (instead of an alternate)?

  • Rick | November 27, 2010 at 8:48 am |

    The photo of the St. Louis Cardinals is great. The uniforms make the shot truly a classic.

    • scott | November 27, 2010 at 8:55 am |

      Anyone know more about that event? Obviously it recognized not only Cardinals but Browns, too, and more remarkably all the players are in what must have been authentic period uniforms.

      • Bruce | November 27, 2010 at 10:08 am |

        The only other info I have for this event is that it is credited as having happened at Sportsman’s Park (St. Louis) before a game in August 1958.

        However, (to add to the confusion), the 1957 All-Star Game took place in St. Louis, so it could be 1957…but the picture clearly looks like it was a night game. Was the ’57 All-Star Game a night game?

      • dutchterp7 | November 27, 2010 at 11:36 am |

        As Scott says, remarkable each player is in authentic period uniforms. The Orioles did that for the final game at Memorial Stadium. Nice touch.

  • BurghFan | November 27, 2010 at 8:52 am |

    From yesterday:

    Why Penn State won’t play Pitt:

    Joe Paterno really wanted to put together an all-sports Eastern conference in the ’80s. So when Pitt joined the Big East, scuttling Joe’s idea, he cooled on playing Pitt. It won’t happen again until after Paterno (2050 or so).

    Jim Vilk, nobody outside the athletic department (and probably very few there) ever stopped calling it Pitt.

    • Jim Vilk | November 27, 2010 at 3:16 pm |

      Thanks for clearing that up!

      2050? So soon? ;)

    • Stirpey | November 27, 2010 at 8:21 pm |

      and why Pitt won’t play Penn State:

      JoePa and the Nittany Lions (w/e those are) want a 3 game series with 2 games at Penn State and 1 in Pittsburgh.

      • BurghFan | November 28, 2010 at 5:35 am |

        Once they’re serious about playing again, that stuff will go away.

  • StLMarty | November 27, 2010 at 9:17 am |

    Unbelievable, Cleveland. Let your people speak.

    Alex always dressed better than the Rev. Jim.

  • Greg B. | November 27, 2010 at 9:18 am |

    The Twins’ new alt road jersey doesn’t look too bad to me in that it is blue and not BFBS as it easily could have been. OTOH, I caught some Celtics highlights on TV this morning and was again struck by how awful their green unis with black letters and numbers looks — truly terrible.

    • Donny | November 27, 2010 at 6:45 pm |

      Go Minnesota Indians?

  • Oakville Celery Root (alias Endive) | November 27, 2010 at 9:18 am |

    Whenever a third jersey gets lauched the question I ask could the uniform prove popular enough too trump the team’s current uniform. It doesn’t happen often, and in my opinion neither of the two NHL jerseys launched in the last couple of days, although Anahiem has the advantage that their primary uniform, isn’t a huge hurdle. It’s unfortunate, but the new uni just has that over-design look. It’s also a tough colour combo, how many teams in either the professional sports go with Black, orange and old gold.

    Pulling up your socks – I belief is a British expression, that is quite common in Canada. I was surprised to see the expression puzzled anyone

    While I understand it – as gold is a colour the logic – I really don’t consider games where a team wears gold colour uni as a colour on colour game. It’s so common an event – that if included, makes me wonder – why we get abuzzed with a colour on colour game – such as this week’s Pats/Lions game

    • The Jeff | November 27, 2010 at 9:32 am |

      Any non-yellow color vs another color is still incredibly rare though. I’d tend to agree that yellow vs another color isn’t really worth mentioning, at least in basketball.

      It does make me wonder why the hell yellow is the only color to have successfully replaced white, when it’s quite obvious that silver, gold, powder blue, light orange and a couple other colors all work equally as well.

    • Richard | November 27, 2010 at 9:33 am |

      Yes and no when it comes to gold. Sometimes wearing it in a color on color context is noteworthy, sometimes not.

      Michigan for example, at times has worn gold (maize, whatever) almost exclusively, so a Michigan color v color game isn’t really a thing (like a Lakers home game). But where wearing gold is more the exception than the rule- then the color on color sticks out.

      • dutchterp7 | November 27, 2010 at 11:46 am |

        I’m in the “yellow/gold basketball jersey isn’t really color on color” column. The Lakers have done it forever, and the Warriors and Pacers have done it as well. No biggie.
        Also, powder blue road baseball uni’s are not “monochrome”.

    • Teebz | November 27, 2010 at 1:57 pm |

      The colour scheme of Anaheim involves the colour “champagne”, which I believe is that old gold colour, Mr. Endive. ;o)

      I’m not sure why the Ducks chose champagne, but it appears the designers of their alternate jersey were several bottles in when they started the design process.

      • Oakville Endive | November 27, 2010 at 2:21 pm |

        Yep, I tend to lump old gold and champagne as one colour, but they are two distinct shades, as the New Orleans Saints prove each week – by featuring both shades.

        “The Jeff” mentions light orange, hopefully he’s referring to Tennessee Vol orange – as opposed to peach orange which would be truly horrific to see any sports team to wear.

        Despite the overdesign, I attach a greater probability of them wearing it for a longer more prominent run, than Columbus, which Paul captures the main problem – been there , done that.

      • Jeff P | November 27, 2010 at 2:30 pm |

        No kidding. 300 designs and that’s the one they came up with?

        As for Columbus, there were a few designs posted at HFBoards where people put some red in the striping and as part of the outside circle on the logo. They looked quite nice, I don’t quite get why the Jackets didn’t do that.

    • odessa steps magazine | November 27, 2010 at 11:41 pm |

      it seems like, anecdotally from watching highlights, Florida wears their third sweater more than their regular home one.

  • Ricko | November 27, 2010 at 9:24 am |

    What a shame that Nike hasn’t been able to convince either Alabama or Auburn to go Pro Combat, or at least wear some kind of alt.

    Y’know, so that yesterday’s Iron Bowl was something really special and memorable and not just another traditional-looking game.


    • LI Phil | November 27, 2010 at 10:52 am |

      hey ricko!

      not sure if you were being sarcastic but you do know bama does have a pro combat uni they wore a couple weeks ago and auburn is UA…

      point well taken tho…

      i mentioned this yesterday, for the backyard brawl — they showed old clips of several past wvu/pitt games, and you could always tell it was pitt vs wvu just by the unis (garish as some may have been) … when they look back in 20 years at yesterday’s game, people are gonna be like “WTF were they wearing????”

      good thing michigan is three stripes or we might look back at THE game in 20 years and be like…”WTF were they wearing?”

      • The Jeff | November 27, 2010 at 11:17 am |

        Then again, if a team does pull out a different “special” uniform for those games, it makes it easy to identify the years. Grab a picture from a random tOSU/MICH game from 2000-2008 and you really have no idea which game it was. But last year’s game with OSU in white helmets is obvious, as will be this year’s game with them in red lids.

        The Swoosh just need to do a better job of making the special uniforms not ugly.

        /or not… just throwing an alternate view out there

        • LI Phil | November 27, 2010 at 11:30 am |

          “Grab a picture from a random tOSU/MICH game from 2000-2008 and you really have no idea which game it was.”

          which is kind of the point of having a timeless uniform

        • Flip | November 27, 2010 at 2:27 pm |

          George Steinbrenner started growing on me in 1999 when asked if the Yankees were going to wear a back to the future uniform. His response went something like, “they already are.”

          I’ve been a uniform geek all my life, and have never been a Yankee fan, but Mr. Steinbrenner nailed it. When a team is successful, generally it looks successful. And why mess with success?

          To me, there are well-dressed teams that usually have a good look. Classic proportions, nothing gimmicky, OK, too gimmicky. Then there are teams that keep rotating looks and may or may not look awful in the process – and playing awfully. Finally, there are teams that rock some good threads, but when they keep losing, they change their look until they stumble onto success.

          Mucking up the looks are teams that change for change sakes. Doesn’t the word uniform stand for something? A home uniform + a road uniform is all that’s needed. Throwbacks were neat when they were an novelty, now they’ve become so common place they’ve lost their meaning. Besides, it seems the effort is half-assed as often as not. And it just spells marketing, marketing, marketing.

          Hope these tags work. Novice.

        • LI Phil | November 27, 2010 at 6:43 pm |

          hey flip —

          your post was in moderation for a few hours, and i had to fix your tags, but great points…

        • Gusto44 | November 27, 2010 at 8:33 pm |

          Agree with the uniform concept of not messing with success in the general sense, but it’s certainly possible to have a classy alternate uniform. It wouldn’t be rocket science to produce a tasteful alternate Yankees uniform. Same thing goes for the Dodgers or Tigers. Do some teams take it too far? Absolutely.

  • The Jeff | November 27, 2010 at 9:25 am |

    Something about the idea of banning “offensive t-shirts” really pisses me off. I mean, I get beefing up security for the sake of player and fan safety, but come on. Wearing an anti-Lebron shirt is not the same as inciting violence.

  • Terry Proctor | November 27, 2010 at 9:34 am |

    That Ottawa Roughriders’ jersey has an extended striped shoulder yoke and a UCLA insert. Talk about overkill! But that would be a great photo for someone to colorize. The Roughies’ colors were Red, Black and White.

  • DJ | November 27, 2010 at 9:41 am |

    When applied to Ottawa it was spelled “Rough Riders” (as in the loggers who rode logs down the rough rapids to the saw mills). Out in Saskatchewan, it was spelled as one word, to refer to the hard-riding cowboys of the West.

    • Jim Vilk | November 27, 2010 at 10:28 am |

      The copy editors for JC Watts’ autobiography didn’t know that. I cringed every time I saw “Ottawa Roughriders.”

      • DJ | November 27, 2010 at 4:50 pm |

        I wonder if JC himself knew it.

  • Andy from Chicago | November 27, 2010 at 9:44 am |

    Perhaps the oddest aspect of the new Blue Jackets jersey is this promotional video in which a team exec explains that one of the first steps toward designing a new jersey is to check with the NHL to learn what other teams are working on.


    So, does this mean that the league is responsible for the Pens/Blues/Panthers/Jackets clones? Will there be more?

    • Gusto44 | November 27, 2010 at 11:01 am |

      At least the Pens throwbacks are based on the history of that franchise, the other teams should have adopted something more original. I do like the Blue Jackets cannon, it should have been larger on the uniform.

      • The Ol Goaler | November 27, 2010 at 11:45 am |

        (Sigh)… The Blues “third” WAS “original”… they started with a not-quite-royal blue, went to a darker blue in the mid-80’s, went to these gawd-awful sweaters in the mid-90’s, combined royal and navy in 1998… which Reebok botched up with the “Bettman Bib”. The “third” was the first time they’d worn navy blue… and the first sports franchise in St. Louis to incorporate the Gateway Arch in their uni. Since then, everybody’s been “goin’ blue”… except the Bruins!

        • Rob S | November 27, 2010 at 3:00 pm |

          The day the Red Wings go to blue is the day I finally give up on the NHL altogether.

        • interlockingtc | November 27, 2010 at 3:07 pm |

          Sweet perfection:


          Why would they want to mess with that?

        • Gusto44 | November 27, 2010 at 5:59 pm |

          I should have clarified my comments to exclude St. Louis, I was referring to those other teams suddenly using powder blue.

      • Terry Proctor | November 27, 2010 at 11:48 am |

        I frankly cannot understand why the NHL is permitting Columbus to use the cannon at all. Does not a cannon invoke thoughts of war and violence? And using the example of the NBA and their Washington franchise which changed its nickname to “Wizards” so as not to spur our misguided youth into nefarious activity I therefore say “No cannons, not now or ever. Sport must remain weapons-free.” LOL

        • The Jeff | November 27, 2010 at 11:58 am |

          Well, so much for the Buffalo Sabres then.

        • Teebz | November 27, 2010 at 2:02 pm |

          Since their “Blue Jackets” name reflects the bloodiest war on American soil, should they rename themselves as well? The Civil War theme is a major part of Columbus’ history, and they did use cannons in that war. Honestly, the history trumps whatever “thoughts of war and violence” simply because they are now obsolete.

          Had it been a Patriot missle blowing up Iraq, I’m sure there would be push-back. ;o)

        • Jeff P | November 27, 2010 at 2:38 pm |

          And while perhaps not too PC to say, the NBA’s demographic tends to get shooty a good bit faster than the NHL’s. Especially in the inner part of DC.

  • Flip | November 27, 2010 at 10:03 am |

    – That Cardinals pic needs to be colorized, pronto.

    – Minnesota never should have left the block lettering on its road jerseys.

    – You’d think a company that says it has an innovative line of basketball apparel would come up with better names for its lines than “Baller,” “Free,” “Base” and “Shooter.” Color me unimpressed.

  • PatrickinMI | November 27, 2010 at 10:25 am |

    Paul, no link for the Cleveland Indians 1973 team photo. I’m interested in seeing the piping on those caps.

  • Taha | November 27, 2010 at 10:27 am |

    in addition to a new jersey, the Blue Jackets unveiled a new mascot, who looks, um, rather phallic. marketing to women?


    • LI Phil | November 27, 2010 at 10:58 am |
    • Teebz | November 27, 2010 at 2:04 pm |

      Boomer is a part-time mascot. The only time he will be seen at Nationwide Arena is when the Jackets wear their alternate uniforms. Which means he works a paltry 15 nights per season if they wear their uniforms only at home.

      Waste. Of. Money… and resources.

  • tmac3217 | November 27, 2010 at 10:32 am |

    The Twins really missed an opportunity here. Why didn’t they use a piping pattern that is consistent with the road uniform? The pattern on this (and the home navy alt) don’t match either the home or road pants.

    If you need to use 2 different colors for the name & numbers, the name should have been white with red trim, and the number red with white trim (similar to the old road alt). That would match the back of the jersey (player name white w/ red trim, number red w/ white trim).

    Ugh — just another softball jersey….

  • concealed78 | November 27, 2010 at 11:22 am |

    That LeBron James logo looks like a crown with jester shoes.

    • Skott | November 27, 2010 at 12:48 pm |

      They should have included the slogan “Giant Douche” in there somewhere

  • Dave R. | November 27, 2010 at 11:33 am |

    Nice segment on ESPN Gameday(11:30am)about college football helmet stickers. The origins, traditions, meanings. I’m at work, so no footage.

    • LarryB | November 27, 2010 at 12:00 pm |

      That was a very good segment. And good that they correctly said OSU used Buckeyes in 1967 not 1968

  • Dootie Bubble | November 27, 2010 at 11:49 am |

    Chris Fowler described the Ohio State pro combat jerseys as looking “like Rutgers without the R.” True.

    • LarryB | November 27, 2010 at 11:59 am |

      Chris Fowler I assume never saw the Buckeyes 1942 uniforms.

      I think those look sweet. Only bad thing is they should have worn red sleeves or under whatever not dark gray or black.

      In 1942 teams wore long sleeves

      • Taha | November 27, 2010 at 12:22 pm |

        maybe Fowler has seen pics from 1942, but they were likely black and white.
        In any event, the commentators have all explained why Ohio St is wearing these red jerseys. regardless of the reason, they do look like “Utgers”. maybe Rutgers copied Ohio State.

      • Greg B. | November 27, 2010 at 2:16 pm |

        I do not like them at all. OSU football needs a silver helmet… that uni design is iconic. This just looks bad.

        • LarryB | November 27, 2010 at 5:23 pm |

          I have always wanted Ohio State to wear throwbacks. I have studied Ohio State’s uniform history. I know the changes they have made over the years from the 1910’s till present. I always liked those 1940’s numbers. The red uniform worn most all year in 1942 was rather plain looking. I think they only wore white jerseys with sleeve stripes 1 game all year in 1942.

          The 1942 Buckeyes wore red helmets with no stripes. And the uniforms were close to accurate. Pretty darn accurate.
          Sure I love the Buckeyes metallic silver helmet with Buckeyes. But I also love Ohio State’s history and tradition. So seeing uniforms like the 1942 team wore was awesome for me.

    • The Jeff | November 27, 2010 at 11:59 am |


      • Tim | November 27, 2010 at 2:05 pm |

        Rutgers without the R

  • concealed78 | November 27, 2010 at 12:12 pm |

    I could have sworn I read about the Indians 1970s coach caps here before, this image was saved 04/29/08, but no mention of it here, tho.


    While on the subject of the Indians, I found these small sleeve patches on Joe Charboneau’s right sleeve, which I couldn’t find mentioned here or elsewhere.


    And a 1976 right sleeve patch I hadn’t seen before, which is a Cleveland Spirit of ’76 patch:


  • Philgp | November 27, 2010 at 12:29 pm |

    Don’t recall seeing this here recently, but KU is playing with white helmets today for the Border Showdown. I liked the Jayhawk one from last year better, but whatever

  • Skott | November 27, 2010 at 12:42 pm |

    I absolutely despise the Ducks’ third jersey. The stripes are ridiculous (in color and shape), and the pretentiousness of the “design process” is amazing. They could have given a class of 5th graders a blank jersey template and three crayons and gotten this terrible design.

  • dwight | November 27, 2010 at 1:01 pm |

    Kansas in all white today, including helmets – they still suck! MIZ…

    • StLMarty | November 27, 2010 at 1:24 pm |


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  • Taxman | November 27, 2010 at 1:09 pm |

    In sports where you call the team an orga-NIGH-zation, you call it a third jersey. Or is it a sweater?

  • TMcLaughlin | November 27, 2010 at 1:09 pm |

    Dammit! Latin’s still going with BFBS?

  • Rob S | November 27, 2010 at 1:20 pm |

    I still think the Penguins should’ve gone with the classic black-and-gold jerseys for this year’s Winter Classic. It’d be a nice-looking matchup that would not only evoke the classic Patrick Division battles of the past, but the colors would match the host team’s, and that would be a nice homage. The Winter Classic jerseys they are going with are a horrible mish-mash, and the whole “vintage white” thing… (grr)

    Ducks: meh. The only good thing, I think, is the “D” logo, which does look better than the full wordmark.

    Jackets: I spewed about this yesterday, but to sum up: “vintage white”, laces, square numbers = BAD. And that new mascot, “Boomer”? What a joke.

    • Gusto44 | November 27, 2010 at 6:22 pm |

      Wouldn’t be surprised to see the black and gold uniforms return in a future Winter Classic. I also liked the gold jersey version from circa 1983.

      • Rob S | November 27, 2010 at 9:40 pm |

        It would be nice to use that… maybe move the numbers to the black part of the sleeve, though. I never liked having the numbers on top of the shoulders… I can only guess that when they made the switch from the blues in 1980, they thought they could further emulate the Steelers with the shoulder numbers. (Then again, they also used heat-sealed numbers – and even a screened logo – for a time.)

        • BurghFan | November 28, 2010 at 5:46 am |

          The numbers on the shoulders were easier to read from the top of the Arena than the numbers inside the gold block.

  • Tim | November 27, 2010 at 2:03 pm |

    Texas’ Gilbert probably has a marking denoting which game he was playing in like how goalies sometimes mark their sticks.

    And even more interesting is what I found in a quick google image search. Gilbert often has “CJM” on that wrist band including in last years national championship game.


    • Tim | November 27, 2010 at 2:06 pm |

      Wait, even the Texas A&M game is a “CJM” Take a second look

    • jdreyfuss | November 28, 2010 at 12:01 am |

      I just thought it was a good explanation for his performance in the game.

  • Stephen King | November 27, 2010 at 2:13 pm |

    Uniform-based infraction department: Ohio State just got flagged for its second unsportsmanlike penalty for flashing their gloves to the crowd to make the “O” sign. This time the ref specifically identified the gesture. I guess that Nike glove thing isn’t completely harmless.

    • aflfan | November 27, 2010 at 2:17 pm |

      The first one was for diving in the end zone when it wasn’t necessary. I think the second one was the fact the a second person (a lineman) made the gesture.

      • Jim Vilk | November 27, 2010 at 3:25 pm |

        So if you’re wearing these
        it’s OK, but if you do it without them it’s a penalty?
        D-bag ruling.

        • aflfan | November 27, 2010 at 3:32 pm |

          No, both of them had them on. They did not flag the player who scored the touchdown who did it first. A lineman came into the end zone AFTER the first did it and the lineman made the same sign and got flagged.

        • Jim Vilk | November 27, 2010 at 5:56 pm |

          D-bag decision by Nike then. It’s like giving a kid a big red button with a sign saying, “Whatever you do, DO NOT push the red button!”

        • Rob S | November 27, 2010 at 9:42 pm |

          It’s Nike, so of course there’s d-baggery. The glove thing is just lame.

          Jim, you just made me think of Dexter’s Laboratory with that comment! Dee Dee: “Ooh, what does THIS button do?”

      • Taxman | November 27, 2010 at 3:36 pm |

        Bad call on the dive. The dude was cutting through a broken field, saw the goal line and dove headlong into the endzone. Michigan tacklers were converging, and the guy took the fastest route to paydirt. Officials get carried away sometimes…

      • Stephen King | November 27, 2010 at 4:46 pm |

        With due respect, I disagree. The first conduct penalty was from a touchdown that was a dive, but I believe it was a legit dive and did not see a flag immediately. It came after the gesture. The commentators said it was for the dive, but that doesn’t mean it was.

  • Rob S | November 27, 2010 at 3:01 pm |

    By the way, Paul… “Amateur Gamesmanship”? Well done!

  • aflfan | November 27, 2010 at 4:11 pm |

    Here is the first of the four Michigan High School Championship Football games today.

    Ishpeming Hematites in Blue and the Hudson Tigers in white


    • Taxman | November 27, 2010 at 5:43 pm |

      Thanks for sharing these each year. Always good photos and good uni-watch fodder. I think one of these games was on one of the FSN outlets on my cable today.

      • aflfan | November 27, 2010 at 6:20 pm |

        Yes, Fox Sport Detroit Plus is carrying the finals. FSD carries the football finals every year.

        Here is the Division I final between Lake Orion Dragons (white) and Plymouth (black). Lake Orion is the arch-rival of the High School I went to.


        • Jim Vilk | November 27, 2010 at 9:43 pm |

          Lake Orion looks good. The Jeff might like Plymouth’s look, but that’s too Raider-ish for me.

        • aflfan | November 27, 2010 at 10:24 pm |

          I agree with you on the Plymouth thing. Can’t agree with you on the Lake Orion thing. They use to throw rocks at our bus when we would leave their field. If it was any other team than Lake Orion (pronounced o-REE-n) I might be able to agree.

  • Tim | November 27, 2010 at 4:17 pm |

    I just got back from my son’s novice hockey game and there was a kid on the ice wearing two different socks, one striped and one solid black (likely due to a laundry issue I would think). It just looked so unique and jarring (I don’t think I’d ever seen a player wearing two different sock designs at the same time before), I began to wonder why no NHL team has explored this possibility yet. If any team would do it, my money would be on the Thrashers…

  • Oakville Endive | November 27, 2010 at 5:17 pm |

    In terms of tomorrow’s top 5 and bottom one, while I realize going North of the Border is generally not done, I would nominate the following:


    The University of Calgary is dressed in a uniform more appropriate for the Swiss Guard, and Laval brings almost all the worst elements of today’s modern uni.

    • Oakville Endive | November 27, 2010 at 5:22 pm |
      • Oakville Endive | November 27, 2010 at 5:33 pm |
      • Jim Vilk | November 27, 2010 at 5:59 pm |

        I had that same picture from your 5:22pm post bookmarked…just in case.

        The snow gives it bonus points.

        • Oakville Endive | November 27, 2010 at 6:04 pm |

          FYI – it was Canada’s equivalent of the BCS Championship – and I guess it’s fitting for a Canadian national championship – a lot of red and white. (not to mention the snow) – the game was played in Quebec City.

    • mike 2 | November 27, 2010 at 8:31 pm |

      All due respect, the Vanier Cup is nothing like the BCS. The Vanier Cup participants are chosen by holding playoffs.

      • Oakville Celery Root (alias Endive) | November 27, 2010 at 8:48 pm |

        Agreed , but the outcome of the game is the same – the team that wins is the National Champion,which is all I meant by the comparison. I would say there are bigger difference between the two events besides how it is determined who gets to play in it. One event barely makes a dent on the national sporting consciousness, the other is probably in top 5 (maybe top 10) of sporting events for the country.

        • mike 2 | November 27, 2010 at 10:26 pm |

          I know – I was just snarking on the BCS. There’s no comparing the CIS to the NCAA.

          (but I can smile a little because I’m an alumni of two of the last 3 universities to win it, Queen’s and Manitoba)

      • LI Phil | November 27, 2010 at 10:09 pm |

        “the Vanier Cup is nothing like the BCS. The Vanier Cup participants are chosen by holding playoffs.”

        so the vanier cup actually decides a national champion based on logic and ability, not the preconvieved and built in biases of the BCS selection committee

        /although i was SOOOOO rooting for bama and boise yesterday, just so see the bastids squirm…well, we can always root for texas christian and the gamecocks now to force an oregon/tcu BCS game

  • Manny | November 27, 2010 at 5:34 pm |

    woah! that story with the kid playing football with a brain tumor, the team they were playing in the begining is my high school! LONG REACH HIGH SCHOOL!

  • Terry D. | November 27, 2010 at 6:14 pm |

    I can’t comprehend the NCAA’s thinking. Why would they make it so that you no longer had to wear your pants below your knees, but they still mandate knee pads for those that wear the biker shorts?


    I know lower-leg pads (both hard plate pads AND soft-foam girdles) are an NCAA mandate for ALL players, but that’s like a college professor telling his/her students that they have to write a mandatory 1,000-page essay within one month to pass the class, but they’re not required to turn it in.

    WTF??? That’s counterproductive.

  • LarryB | November 27, 2010 at 6:53 pm |

    Tressel has beat Michigan with 6 different uniforms.

    Tressel has beat Michigan with the home and away classic gray sleeve stripes. Which I wish Ohio State would go back to those sleeves.

    Beat them home and away with the current sleeve pattern.

    Last year with those made up alternate uniforms that Ohio State never wore in its history.

    And today with the sweet looking 1942 throwbacks.

    • LI Phil | November 27, 2010 at 7:48 pm |

      “Tressel has beat Michigan with 6 different uniforms.”

      not to mention, an old shoe, a 2 by 4, a sack of doorknobs and a wet noodle

  • Bernard | November 27, 2010 at 8:37 pm |

    Though it’s obviously not the same thing, the Rough Riders picture and question about the TV numbers reminded me of this amazing Washington Diplomats jersey from 1979:


    It looks to me like the Dips handled single digit numbers by setting them to one side, versus centering it over the stripes (see 1978 #2 Pringle jersey):


    • Gusto44 | November 27, 2010 at 11:04 pm |

      The NASL had some interesting uniforms, the Los Angeles Aztecs had a good look. Orange may have been one of their colors.

      The old Philadelphia Atoms had a cool logo too.

    • aflfan | November 27, 2010 at 11:12 pm |

      Somewhere I have a stuff with this logo


  • aflfan | November 27, 2010 at 9:12 pm |

    Here is the MHSAA Division 5 final between Grand Rapids West Catholic (in green and looking an awful lot like the Jets) and Olivet (in white).


    One more going on right now between East Grand Rapids and Orchard Lake St. Mary’s. They went 5 OT in the finals in 2007.

    • StLMarty | November 27, 2010 at 10:11 pm |

      That might be the worst case of biker shorts I’ve ever seen.

  • StLMarty | November 27, 2010 at 10:13 pm |

    Why would anyone choose to wear a Revo Speed helmet? It looks like the top of a trash can with a lid.

  • Johnny O | November 28, 2010 at 1:42 am |

    I was at the Northwestern/Wisconsin game today and noticed RB John Clay was wearing those special stretchy/weird Adidas pants. No one else on the team was wearing them. Has he been doing this all year and I haven’t noticed?