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The UFL, Year 2: New Unis…but are they any better?

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By Phil Hecken, with Chris Howell

With little fanfare, the UFL (United Football League) debuted it’s second season uniforms last week. You remember the UFL, right? That four-team football league of guys who couldn’t make the NFL, better known for having the world’s crappiest uniforms, all from the same template, and all having some kind of weird helmet stripe.

Yes, the UFL in 2009 featured four clubs: the New York Sentinels, the California Redwoods, the Florida Tuskers, and the Las Vegas Locos. The Sentinels and the Redwoods weren’t very good. They’re not back this year.

You remember the UFL? They were the ones who thought having four teams sharing four colors (teal?, lime, silver and black) was a good idea. Of course, this never led to confusion. I actually watched (I’ll admit it) a portion of that game. Silver jerseys versus white jerseys. Maybe the players could tell each other apart but even in HDTV it was difficult. Similarly, when you had matchups featuring different teams wearing the same colors (albeit different tops and bottoms from each other), it was similarly hard to watch.

This league thought it might be a good idea to use this ball, until some genius realized it looked a little too much like this ball. They eventually settled on this ball. Other “innovations” included dressing the officials in red and black, emulating the Sunday look of this professional. And, oh yeah, lest we forget, they thought it might be a good idea to neon green yardage markers. Not that it mattered, nobody saw the games anyway.

Sure, there were some interesting color vs. color matchups, but who ever thought this was a good color for a jersey? Oh right, these guys and these guys. But at least they were smart about proper NOBs.

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Anyway, this little four-team league with all the above mentioned problems, who not too many folks thought might be back for a second season…is back for a second season. This time, they have a five team league, which will make for some interesting scheduling. And they dumped their two losingest teams from 2009, adding teams in three new cities this year. The Locos and Tuskers are back, joined by the Hartford Colonials, the Sacramento Mountain Lions, and the Omaha Nighthawks. And (drumroll)…they ditched the four-color template unis from last year and now each club (sorta) has it’s own identity.

So…let’s take a look-see. For this uniform rundown, I’m going to be joined by Chris Howell (an actual UFL fan), as we disect the 5 new sets of unis.

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Hartford Colonials (Logo, Helmet): The Colonials sport a navy and gold jersey (with just an ever-so-slight touch of powder blue) & gold helmet, with gold pants with alternating blue-white-blue stripes. The home white jersey is essentially an inverse of the home (I’m assuming they’ll wear dark at home), with a pretty cool font (I guess, meant to be evocative of ‘colonial’ print). The wordmark on the jersey is a bit tough to read, but overall, I actually think this is a pretty nice looking uniform. They do have some jersey side piping, but considering where this league was with uniforms last year, I won’t complain.

Chris’ take: I like it because it’s different than anything in the NFL. They have a cool number font and I really like the logo on their helmet. The stripes on the sleeves and pants have the slightest touch of light blue that is awesome. The wordmark on the jersey is too bulky and the font makes it almost illegible.

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Las Vegas Locos (Logo, Helmet): One of the two returning teams from 2009, the Las Vegas Locos (nee, “Locomotives”) are sporting a red and silver colorscheme, with a “raglan” sleeve pattern, that morphs into a silver and black side panel. Unfortunately, streaming down the pant leg is some godawful shape, resembling a fake sword or something. (Yes, I know it’s the graphic representation of a locomotive, and apes the helmet stripe.) And, maybe it’s the lighting, but those unis look mighty shiny. OK, it’s “Vegas,” so maybe sparkly is good. Not a huge fan of the modern numeral font (hey, haven’t we seen that crapola somewhere before?), and the wordmark, which resembles casino chips, looks pretty illegible on the uni.

Chris’ take: I like the jersey but it looks almost exactly like the UNLV jersey which is odd. I love the silver sleeves and how they go up to the neck. The italic numbers are a nice change. The back of the jersey reminds of a basketball jersey with the black piping along the sides.

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Sacramento Mountain Lions –here’s the full template (Logo, Helmet): Looks like the Mountain Lions are seeking to combine old gold and vegas gold (along with standby black (more raglan sleeves), and a similar font to Las Vegas. Personally, I detest vegas gold, although there’s plenty of black on that uni. Unfortunately, when viewed straight on, there’s not much difference between the home and away unis. (Didn’t they learn their lesson last season?) The road uni is not too bad, although it’s kind of busy with the weird angular black panel tucked down the side of the jersey.

Chris’ take: Black and gold is alright. Nothing that really gets me excited. I like the number font because it’s different. One thing that bothers me is the helmet is a completely different shade than the jersey. The home jersey is a different style than the road jersey which I hate.

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Florida Tuskers (Logo, Helmet): The Tuskers, the other survivor from 2009, have gone from this to this. That doesn’t look too bad right? Well, that’s because you didn’t see the up close view. Kinda looks like a dime store knockoff of the Panthers, no? The road uni even more so, right? Except for the black pants that is. It’s kind of sad that, as bad as last year’s uniform was, this one is worse. A five team league only needs one team wearing black. Unfortunately, as you’ll shortly see…there is another.

Chris’ take: They look terrible. When will teams realize that teal is not a good look. They have teal numbers but their helmet is almost royal blue, it’s not even close to matching. The all black looks like a made up video game team or the BFBS version of the Cougars from ESPN’s Playmakers. Easily the worst of the UFL.

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Omaha Nighthawks (Logo, Helmet): The final UFL entry for 2010, the Omaha Nighthawks also sport an all-black uniform, only, unlike the Tuskers, they go with a black helmet and socks. I actually prefer this to the Florida entry. The road jersey is the white reciprocal of the home. Both have slight piping on the jersey and double outlined varsity block numbers. The home jersey is solid black while the white jersey has black side panels, and the pants are completely solid. Since their nickname comes from the Nighthawk stealth fighter, it’s understandible if the uni is pretty much solid black. And, since they’re a new team, we can’t accuse them of being BFBS.

Chris’ take: Awful, boring, bland, black. I think they should have followed Las Vegas’ lead and at least get some red in there so Nebraska fans have some connection. They look like Permian high school in Friday Night Lights. The only team I know that pulls off just black and just white well is the White Sox.

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Well, there you have it. Your 2010 UFL. While certainly better than what they trotted out last year, that’s not really saying much. But at least they held true to their word that they’d be introducing new uniforms for year 2, and now each team can (sort of) claim it’s own colors.

In a somewhat bizarre bit of cross-marketing, the UFL will be “partnering with King Features Syndicate in a unique, co-branded licensing program that will result in the iconic Betty Boop character becoming the ‘Official Fantasy Cheerleader of the UFL’.” I’m not quite certain what demographic they’re targeting, and I don’t think I even want to know where they’re going with “fantasy cheerleader.” Just not going there.

UFL Access, which I guess is some kind of UFL blog, offered it’s own ‘instant analysis’ of the uniforms on the day they were released. I didn’t read it, but I’d assume it’s more favorable than Chris & my review.

I’d like to thank Chris for his assistance in preparing this post, and for pointing me in the direction of some of the first photos from the uni-unveil in Vegas. If you’re still interested, here are some videos of the uniforms for 2010.

What say you readers? Do you even care about the UFL, and if you do, how’d they do? Pass, fail, or somewhere in between? The floor is yours.

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Bulwark Update: Ducktracker & #1 Seahawk fan Michael Princip is back with an update on his amazing helmet concept. Dig:

“I have added a few images to the Bulwark site with what I’m calling the Silverback. I’m trying to show the retrofit capabilities, and how a player can customize their helmet with many different shell forms, and specially formed exterior padding to comply with their style of play, or, further protect a recurring injury.

“Thanks Phil! Looking forward to your August Uniwatch postings.”

Thanks Mike.

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The latest installment of Paul’s “Fire Wayne Hagin Already!” blog is up (actually, there’s quite a few days worth on there).

Check It Out!

Hopefully, webmaster John Ekdahl will be installing a widget on the sidebar announcing whenever Paul has an new FWHA! post up. But until then… UPDATE: Now available! Check out the sidebar, with all of Paul’s recent FWHA! blog pieces. (Thanks, Ek!)

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In case you missed it, on Saturday evening the Kansas City Royals and the Baltimore Orioles played a Negro League throwback game. The Royals were throwing back to the Kansas City Monarchs, while the Charm City team was representing the Baltimore Elite Giants. Looks like the O’s nailed it pretty well (looked like late 40’s to early 50’s unis), while the Royals, sporting what appeared to be wearing a uniform of late ’40’s vintage. Indeed, checking the promo, it was indicated, ” both teams will don Negro Leagues uniforms provided by Sprint with the Royals wearing the 1949 Kansas City Monarchs home uniforms and the Orioles wearing the Baltimore Elite Giants road uniforms from the early 1950s.”

I didn’t see the game, but I did see highlights, and it looked as though all the players were properly hosed, although, surprisingly, the Royals wore their blue helmets. Now, I realize players back then didn’t wear helmets, but usually for throwback games, the home team (and sometimes even the road team), create a throwback helmet. Of course, sometimes they don’t, but usually the helmets’ colors don’t clash with the throwback. Still though, the game looked great, and the Monarchs cream unis versus the Elite Giants’ gray (which appeared to be a slightly darker shade than normal “gray” road unis) was a visual treat. Of course, the high-top “look at me” cleats in royal colorways kinda detracted from the sartorial beauty. Ah…but all ended well…the shaving cream in the face never gets old.

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Uni Watch News Ticker: (partially compiled by Paul)…Must have been cold at the Women’s British Open, because some of the golfers were wearing earmuffs. ”¦ What’s with the football helmet? That’s Ron Galella, an infamous paparazzo in the ’70s. He’s trailing Marlon Brando and is wearing the helmet because Brando had previously punched him. ”¦ Sure enough, looks like all of the Yanks’ minor league affiliates are wearing the Big Stein patch, as you can see in this recent photo of Jorge Vasquez, who plays for the Scranton-Wilkes Barre Yankees. ”¦ Maybe more people would follow NASCAR if it was always this entertaining. “That’s the famous fight between Cale Yarborough and the ‘Alabama Gang’ of Bobby and Donnie Allison and Neil Bonnet at the 1979 Daytona 500,” says Gerry Dincher. “Yarborough is on the right with his foot in Bobby Allison’s hand. Neil Bonnet is on the left with the ’stache and sideburns. I love the ‘Cale’ script on the helmet and Yarborough’s old-school Converse. The driver’s uniforms are pretty nice too.” ”¦ Mark Nunneker checked in with this: on Saturday, the Auburn Doubledays were giving out rather unique bobbleheads … Several readers immediately noticed that one of the newest Yankees, Lance Berkman, was outfitted with a jersey bearing the old Jerry Dior logo (the current jerseys boast midnight blue and silver) — photo courtesy of Matt Kaufhold … Eagle-eyed Cory Lewis not only noticed Berkman’s jersey, but also points out that Austin Kearns was also outfitted with the old logo … Chris Hilf and UW’s favorite Yinzer Doug Keklak both checked in with news that the Pittsburgh Steelers are now sporting ads on their practice jerseys. … Pacific Rim correspondent Jeremy Brahm heard this over this weekend on Fox Soccer Channel that Norwich City fans are now plagued by bugs; seems the new kit has a brighter, ‘more Brazilian’ color than the team’s usual yellow strip, and seems to act as a magnet for the bugs. … Many readers pointed out over the weekend what we all knew was going to happen when your team has two alternates that look alike: while the rest of the Brewers were wearing their “Milwaukee” alternates, Chris Capuano failed to read the memo and sported his “Brewers” home alternate (gracias to Paul for the screen grabs). … Straight from SCH, Kenn Tomasch caught this, “…spotted outside of Coors Field (Saturday) night, on a grown man.” … Rick Pearson thought maybe this is old news, but he didn’t realize SportsAuthority’s website is a source for the now hard-to-find American Needle Cooperstown Caps collection. The first 17 pages, in fact … Uni Watch Prexy Paul Lukas, kicking it in a hammock with an adult beverage in hand dutifully notes, “While looking for something else, I came across this shot of a college softball pitcher wearing some serious armor. … Also from Paul, Aaron Heilman had the Pedro Porthole on Friday night. … On Friday night, Yogi Combs attended the Tulsa Shock game. Says Yogi, “Tonight, the new Tulsa Shock of the WNBA were showing off their Breast Cancer Awareness uniforms. Too bad that couldn’t get Nolan Richardson in a pink polka dot outfit. Got some good pictures, though.” … More Pink — reader Paul Krenek notes: “Wednesday, July 21st, the Round Rock Express (Houston Astros’ Triple-A affiliate) hosted the Susan G Komen Pink in the Park. Photos of the ceremonies and uniforms worn by the Express are shown in the attached link.” Paul’s mother-in-law, Martha Delgado, was celebrating one-year of being cancer free. Best wishes to Martha. … Not sure if we covered this one or not, but Chris Buttgen found that Florida has a beef with a tiny Arkansas school. … Patrick Woody was looking for footage of the last Atlanta Flames game on youtube and grabbed these screenshots of a Flames player in a full face cage. After a bit of research, Patrick is pretty sure the player in question is 1972 Team Canada hero Paul Henderson in his final NHL season. … UW Card Carrying Member Bobby Hill noticed this logo for the upcoming training camp for the Bears, showing that “you can sponsor out anything for money.” … Li’l Help? Paul Bielewicz sent this in to UW HQ: “Unfortunately I don’t have any screenshots, but I noted an interesting observation during last night’s Yankee game – a handful of Yankees had the interlocking NY ‘print’ logo on their helmets rather than the traditional interlocking NY ‘helmet’ logo. Among them were Cervelli, Granderson, and perhaps one or two others. I may be mistaken, but to my knowledge, this is the first time the ‘print’ logo has actually been used on any uniform element.” Can any of you Yankee fans confirm or post pics? … Great stuff from E. J. Gianforti, who recently started work in Human Resources at Revere Copper Products in Rome, NY. The company has been in existence in various forms since 1801, and was founded by Paul Revere (They no longer make pots and pans, though). A company with this much history has quite a few vintage and antique “goodies” tucked away in dusty office attics and forgotten rooms. He notes, “I was lucky enough to be shown our old Revere Athletic Association industrial league baseball uniforms, security guard uniforms, and band uniforms. Its amazing to me just how many activities were provided at one time through the employees’ club.” … Matt Schudel discovered a feature about the undefeated 1960 New Mexico State Aggies football team — there is a photo on page 64 that contains two interesting elements. Check out the Aggies’ uniforms (in white). Matt notes, “They have something like upside-down UCLA stripes, which stop halfway up the shoulder pads. The stripes continue under the shoulders all the way down to the pants. The pattern was continued on the Aggies’ dark home uniforms too, if you look closely at this team photo (and click on the “Larger” button). I’ve never seen that striping pattern on other uniforms of this era. Also, in the black-and-white photo, the Aggie players are wearing low-cut Adidas football shoes. This is the earliest use of Adidas shoes I have ever seen in American football.” … UPDATE on the Brewer jersey snafu: Jeff Ash checks in with this: “How did Chris Capuano end up wearing a different jersey from his teammates during his two-inning relief stint Saturday night, you ask? Equipment manager Tony Migliaccio explained that road uniforms are placed in each player’s bag prior to the start of a trip. This year, the Brewers have worn blue alternate road jerseys with “Milwaukee” on the front for the first time. Migliaccio said Capuano likes an extra jersey to change into at times and mistakenly added a blue alternate home jersey with “Brewers” on the front. ‘We didn’t see it until he was on the mound,’ said Migliaccio. ‘You can’t run out there in the middle of the game’.” From Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (last item in notebook). Also an update from Christopher Smith, who sends this along … John Hagenmaier writes, “Colts 2010 draft pick Ray Fisher from Indiana University tweeted this photo, which shows the usual Colts helmet next to one that is all blue. Earlier, this site reported the Colts were possibly going to have a “third jersey” or alternate uniform. Could this be a hint?” [Note: That’s the double horseshoes helmet from 1954 (read more about the Colts uni history here). … if you scroll down to “NFL News” in Paul’s old column, you’ll see a mention of the Colts possible third uniform.] … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: The Vikings are showing off apparel with their 50th Season patch/logo … Also reprinted from the weekend’s comments: the Atlanta Falcons unveiled their “secondary” logo. Here’s a better one.

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One underutilized marketing approach has been the purveyance of high-quality football, something the United Football League hopes to offer when it debuts in October. — Sports Illustrated, when discussing the UFL last season. Still waiting…

 
  
 
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    I’d rank the UFL’s Hartford Colonials in the top 10 logos/unis if they were an NFL team. Very nice set. However, a team wearing navy and gold and calling itself the Colonials? The generous way to say it would be to call it, um, highly derivative of GWU.

    (Speaking of GWU, while looking for a link to go with this comment, I found this beautiful program cover from the 1940s, when Gee Dub still had a football team. Appears to suggest that Colonials football wore red, even though blue and gold had been school colors since 1904: link)

    GeeDub alum here but well after the departure of the football program. I have no idea whether the football Colonials ever wore red, but I do know that college football programs of that era often used generic artwork that was not school specific. As a result I wouldn’t think GW wearing red is a lead pipe cinch. Of course I leave it to intrepid researchers to confirm one way or another.

    I’m a Gee Dub alum myself, and like you long after the end of the football program. But the reason I wonder whether the illo might suggest actual uniform colors is that this photo of a 1932 Colonials-Bama game recently featured on UW:

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    hints at a 3-color scheme on the Gee Dub unis. That’s George Washington with the lighter raglan sleeves. Blue, gold, and red would explain the distinct shades of gray on that uni, though so too would mismatched elements.

    But you’re right about placeholder illos, and so I wouldn’t say more than that these images hint at the possibility. Still far below 50% from the very scant evidence in hand.

    Hartford Colonials? More like, Hartford Cowboys! That font and logo screams “Old West” to me!

    “Also, in the black-and-white photo, the Aggie players are wearing low-cut Adidas football shoes. This is the earliest use of Adidas shoes I have ever seen in American football.’ ”

    Yup, I’ve posted an Aggie PR photo of Pervis Atkins previously showing a good look at those cleats (the placat arond the eyelets was white, giving them a “track shoe” look). That was the first team use of them that I recall, too. A few NFL players had worn them in the ’50s, LF Cliff Livingston of Giants and SE Raymond Berry of the Colts, to name two. Berry colored the stripes black, though.

    Here’s the Atkins photo…
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    And apparently Charlie Johnson wore his Aggie cleats in trainig camp with the Cardinals. This PR shot is from his rookie year…
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    If you look closely in this Raymond Berry photo, you can see the stripes, but they’ve been made black.
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    HB Dick Shatto wore a med-cut version with Toronto in the CFL, too…
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    —Ricko

    The Sacramento team is using the “Group W font” as their number font. It was originally commissioned for Westinghouse’s broadcasting holdings (Group W). Most of their stations are owned by CBS now.

    Former users: link, link, link.

    Current users: link, link.

    Crap, did I really post all those? Crap, I guess I did.

    Well, definitely an improvement over the 4 color template crap from last year.

    But, there’s definitely no reason for a 5 team league to have two teams with the same color jerseys. Heck, a 5 team league shouldn’t even need home & away jerseys. Each team ought to be distinctive enough to have the whole league go color vs color.

    “… an improvement over the 4 color template crap.”

    Agreed… and at least they don’t have the “Nighthawks” and another team called the “Night Hawks.”

    The guy on the left in the NASCAR photo with the mustache and sideburns is Donnie Allison, Bobby’s brother.

    I don’t know if there’s ever been a Uni Watch piece on NASCAR uniforms, but I know I’d be interested in seeing it.

    Dugout Memories has had these American Needle caps forever

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    (but it’s nice to find another source too!)

    I know. Have bought several hats from Dugout Memories. Great to work with. Just was surprised to find them at a site that was more, I dunno, mainstream…because those hats aren’t as “fashionable” as they were 15-20 years ago.

    And, as you say, because it’s good to have a second source.

    Interesting that when sorted according to “best sellers” that KC A’s hat that never existed (white “K”, red “C”) comes up #1. Was a Topps retouch artist’s creation for the ’55 cards after the move from Philadelphia. Never happened; A’s went with their typical “A” in red edged in white (the reverse of their final season in Philly). And the year’s wrong, too. Says it’s 1960. The 1960 hat had a red “KC” in the style the last American Association Kansas City Blues had used (but in white as the Yankees’ AAA farm club) in the early ’50s…
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    And, yes, I picked Marvelous Marv Throneberry for the sake of Mets fans everywhere.
    You’re welcome. ;)

    —Ricko

    What team is this and who were they throwing back to?(right term to refer to a throw-back in the past?) link

    That’s Jason Giambi, #16, so it has to be the Oakland Athletics. Judging by the socks, those are the Oakland Oaks. I think they are an olde tyme minor league team. I forget if the other team went retro as well or not.

    You can always count on the UW community to spring into action when there is a question of an unknown jersey. Thanks for the info gang.

    Also note the Oaks wore Kelly, not forest.
    Credit to the A’s for getting it right.

    The one they REALLY got right was the time they wore the navy, red and white Oaks unis (back when Mark M. was still there) and they even switched to black cleats. Think it might have been a time when they played the Giants, who wore Seals unis).

    —Ricko

    The one they REALLY got right was the time they wore the navy, red and white Oaks unis (back when Mark M. was still there) and they even switched to black cleats. Think it might have been a time when they played the Giants, who wore Seals unis).

    –Ricko
    I believe they were actually flannel too. Home and away exhibition games on April 2 and 3, 1994. Beautiful uniforms.
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    li phil – do you think you could drop me an email at link? thanks very much, robert (robert harvell files).

    That’s the 1939 Oakland Oaks of the Pacific Coast League. You can see the 1939 baseball centennial patch on his left sleeve.

    And I prefer “throwbacking” or to “throwing back,” just because baseball players actually literally throw back to one another all the time during the course of a game. Plus it sounds sillier, which I think is important in this context. And it makes “fauxbacking” possible.

    You’re right Mark, it’s pretty chintzy.. That appears to be a heat-sealed embroidered logo. The hat looks like something you’d find at WalMart for $5.99.

    And a number of those hats (even the ones worn in MLB throwback games) have a letter far, far larger than they actually were. Recent Brewers, for one, I believe. I really don’t know where that notion comes from. All you have to do is look at old photos to see they weren’t that big.

    Actually, there have long been a number of errors in the Cooperstown Collection. Many seem to involve the A’s, for some reason. In addition to the one I noted earlier, there’s a white crowned, red-brimmed A’s hat from 1962. No such animal. There was a gray road hat like that, but no home white. At home they wore only the navy crown, red visor. On the road they alternated the gray and navy crowns.

    Also, the all-white with kelly “KC” is listed as an “Alternate”. No, it was the original white hat of the manager and coaches with the vested set (back when Alvin Dark was the manager) even before the white cleats came along. Later the brim was changed to kelly.

    —Ricko

    New Era’s 5950 is just as bad, which is marketed as “authentic” is just as bad with a line of blue stitching within the white front panel.

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    I don’t like adjustable caps but I bought a 47 version because they got the hat otherwise right

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    I’ve been whining for years to American Needle and New Era about their “Cooperstown” versions of the 70’s/80′ Blue Jays, Orioles (white front) and Expos caps not being right.
    The real caps from back then weren’t wool, they were a nylon fabric (I have original New Era Expos and O’s – although the O’s seemed to have used Roman Pro back in the day). I even remember old Manny’s Baseball Land ads in Street & Smith’s mentioning the difference.

    True. But the jays were still wearing that cap in 1993, in wool, so I consider wool authentic for that design.

    The Las Vegas Locos’ number font is apparently the same as the NHL’s Nashvile Predators (but diffrently colored)…

    I don’t mind any of the UFL’s unis this time around. I probably like Omaha’s the most, mainly because of the logo and straight forward presentation. I didn’t think Florida’s were THAT bad…

    Of the new UFL uniforms, I like the Hartford set the best. But I think the helmet logo is terribly overwrought for a uniform that is otherwise rather understated/traditional in its design.

    I agree. They should have simply gone with the center helmet decal and forgo the side decals. I like Hartford’s number font as well.

    Nascar’s big problem today is that the fist fights have been replaced by link and link and Nascar refuses to give these guys acceptable penalties. People aren’t watching Nascar because they don’t want to witness vehicular manslaughter.

    “People aren’t watching Nascar because they don’t want to witness vehicular manslaughter.”

    wait…isn’t that like, a double negative? could we read that as “people ARE watching NASCAR because they WANT to witness vehicular manslaughter”?

    (i get what you’re saying…just trying to crack wise — but the old joke in my neighborhood back in the day was that people were only watching car racing because they wanted to see crashes)

    I don’t know about that one…

    Sadly I think a lot of people *are* watching for the crashes.

    Those two videos you linked look rather similar to a tactic employed repeatedly by the most popular driver in history.

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    The big difference is that with Dale, you KNEW that was coming, and Dale never hid the fact that is how he drove. With Carl, it isn’t about winning, in the first link Carl is several laps down (over 100, I believe) and his sole purpose for going back out was to intentionally wreck Brad K. Carl has a history of taking a perceived slight and grossly over-reacting. He has almost killed Brad twice, fought with Kevin Harvick, went Days of Thunder on Dale Jr. and fake-punched Matt Kenseth, his own teammate!
    I know of several fans, myself included, who are not only sick of these types of things, but also sick of the lack of series penalties by Nascar.

    “People aren’t watching Nascar because they don’t want to witness vehicular manslaughter.”

    (1) Most races now come down to which driver has the best pitstop at the end of the race. The 200+ laps that came before that count for almost nothing.

    (2) No one wants to sit 3-4 hours through 200+ laps. Besides, it’s much easier to turn on Sportscenter and watch the race highlights, because (a) they tell you who won, and (b) if there’s a crash or some other incident, they’ll show that too.

    (3) Why bother sitting through 36 races when (a) the first 26 are merely a formality and (b) Jimmie Johnson is going to win the championship anyway?

    (4) There are no personalities in the sport. Every driver, crew chief and owner is more concerned about making sure the sponsor gets mentioned and no one says anything to offend anyone than they are in showing any emotion.

    (5) The Chase i.e. “The Matt Kenseth Rule” is a contrived points system that is going to go through yet another change this offseason because it hasn’t brought the excitement to the sport that it was supposed to.

    I could go on and on. There are TONS of reason why people are tuning out NASCAR in record numbers. The fact that Carl Edwards and Brad Keselowski didn’t get harsher penalties is probably on the bottom of the rung somewhere after “I don’t like DW”.

    Call it the Kenseth rule if you want but I call it the Jr. rule. Earnhardt Jr. is the most popular driver and since he was always far from championship contention on his own they devised a format for him to be in contention even longer. When he couldn’t even make the chase when it was ten the upped it to twelve and he has still missed it. The chase, the lucky dog, green white checkers and the car of tomorrow combined to drive this former every lap watcher away.

    Re:the American Needle throwback caps, from what I’ve seen, they’re available at every team’s website, usually under the throwback cap/alt. cap tab, and also at the MLB Hall of Fame site. Is this not the case any more? When did they become hard to get? Just curious.

    They were available retail all over the place in the early ’90s or, after films such as THE NATURAL and FIELD OF DREAMS had helped make them, as I mentioned earlier, “fashionable.”

    I understand there are those whose don’t remember or weren’t around yet. Just thought I’d best put into context why I added it to the source list.

    —Ricko

    Dude. Monday. Seriously.

    Its. Its. Its. Its. Its. Not it’s.

    (This part I’m not proud that I know, but) New York moved to Hartford and California moved to Sacramento. They’re not new teams.

    Lastly, how long have we known each other, and you still spelled my name wrong?

    Oy.

    oy is right…major mea culpa — name fixed.

    as far as it’s & its…its gonna take me awhile to figure out if it’s right or not

    Up close the Colonials logo looks okay … for a bank in the 1930s. Far away, it will probably look like a postage stamp.

    What kind of name is Colonials, anyways? What are they trying to convey? Isn’t that what the British called us before we kicked their butts? It’s also type of home.

    Doesn’t exactly strike fear in the heart of your opponents.

    Actually, wasn’t George Washington commander-in-chief of the Colonial Army?
    Pretty sure it was what they called themselves.

    American historians certainly commonly refer to battles between the British and the “Colonials”.

    13 colonies declared themselves independent. Didn’t become “States” until later ( and, yes, I know, some are Commonwealths).

    —Ricko

    good thing i hit refresh before posting — last year, i had the pleasure of reading david mccullough’s “1776” — which explained that year in tremendous UW-esque detail…and yes, they were the continental army

    (mccullough also wrote on adams and truman, fwiw — think the adams book was a hbo miniseries)

    That why I made it a question. Couldn’t remember for sure and didn’t wanna google it ;)
    Pretty sure the Colonials referred to themselves as such.
    a) What other terms (other than “colonists”) were in use?
    b) They were the ones who’d done the work, the colonizing. No reason to assume they wouldn’t have been proud of that.

    —Ricko

    Well, somebody better correct all those historians who use the terms “colonial army” and “colonials”…including The History Channel.

    Plus, the reference isn’t necessarily limited to the Revolutionary War.
    In the French & Indian War, British troops and Colonial militia (“Colonials”) fought on the same side.

    (Everyone seems to forget that war).

    —Ricko

    “Colonial” really did drop out of use by pro-independence Americans at all levels almost immediately upon the decision to seek independence. The word all but disappears from newspapers, letters, and diaries. And that predates the Declaration of Independence; numerous towns, villages, and counties as well as several colonies/states issued their own declarations of independence from 1774 to 1776; it was a necessary step in the reorganization of government on bottom-up republican grounds, rather than top-down monarchical grounds. Note for example that although it was organized well before independence was either declared or even contemplated, when the purpose was to repair relations with London and retain colonial status, the super-colonial assembly styled itself the “Continental Congress,” not the “Colonial Congress.”

    I have a mildly famous ancestor who fought for the crown during the Revolution (he played a leading role in betraying the patriot Nathan Hale of “I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country” fame). My ancestor was a proud colonial. The patriots he fought against? They rejected the word “colonial” at the moment that they rejected loyalty to his majesty’s government.

    Which is why, as a GWU alumnus, it has always bugged me that Gee Dub’s teams are the Colonials, not the Continentals.

    But in the case of a team in Hartford, I can see “Colonials” referring to the state’s heritage as one of the original colonies.

    I don’t think that anyone’s doubting the use of “Colonials” as an historical term. Only that it fell out of favor when those colonies declared themselves to comprise an independent nation, and consequently ceased to be colonies.

    Which was, incidentally, about a decade after the French and Indian War. “Colonial militia” is perfectly appropriate when discussing the 1760s, since that was what they called themselves at that time.

    Not that “Colonials” is anything less than a legitimate nickname. I just think its fascinating, since American iconography seems to look back in time to 1776 but no further (especially in New England). Choosing a mascot from the pre-Revolutionary War era is either a bold move, or reveals a general lack of historical knowledge on somebody’s part.

    Maybe it isn’t a pre-war reference. Perhaps they’re even more bold than you think. What’s the opposite of a Patriot? A Colonial. Connecticut is part of New England, afterall.

    A colonial is a type of house, which ironically (in the Alanis Morissette sense of the word) can be found all throughout New England…

    This weekend there was much talk at UW of familiar faces in new uniforms, and right in the middle of all that, something almost the opposite came up. I heard mentioned that the Vikings have all 22 starters returning. Man, it would be interesting to discover the last time THAT happened in the NFL. Plus, 98% of the roster is the same as last year (Chester Taylor’s gone).

    Not saying whether good or bad, just quirky. Actually, by today’s NFL standards, almost…bizarre.

    —Ricko

    Is that 22 including Favre? Has he decided yet or does he have yet to make “The Decision?”

    Anyone really think that issue’s in doubt? If they do, they’re drinking ESPN’s kool aid rather than really looking at how the off-season’s gone.

    And I don’t expect an hour long special for him to say something like…
    “I’ll be taking my talents to South Beach.”

    Right. And if you had a friend who changed jobs for one in New Orleans and he told you about it by saying, “Yes, I’ll be taking my talents to the Big Easy” you’d think he was a pompous ass.

    —Ricko

    I remember that movie. That was the one that was about a league like the NFL but the costume designers watched the Arena League instead (evidently).

    —Ricko

    Now, if Temple changed its nickname to “Templars”…

    But then we’d lose those great tiled football pants the Owls wear.

    —Ricko

    I liked that jersey from “Any Given Sunday”, but my recollection was the team’s nickname wasn’t the Knights. I thought it was something like the Emperors, and John Unitas played the head coach.

    Gusto, the Emperors were the team from New York.

    Full list of teams that were shown in the movie:

    Miami Sharks
    New York Emperors
    Dallas Knights
    California Crusaders
    Chicago Rhinos
    Minnesota Americans

    The jersey was bad enough, then they had that awful helmet:
    link

    The Sharks uni was good, but all black in Miami? That’s just asking for another Korey Stringer.

    The minute I saw that Omaha uni I thought Miami Sharks!! and yes I always wondered why the hell a team playing in the tropics would wear black!!!!!!!!

    The New York EVIL Emperors would make an awesome team name…in any sport…

    “What say you readers? Do you even care about the UFL, and if you do, how’d they do? Pass, fail, or somewhere in between? The floor is yours.”

    I only care about the UFL because they seem to want to be this sort of farm league and run parallel to the NFL. That being said, their marketing/branding is unoriginal(for the most part) and amateurish. For right now, I say fail again. However, a baby step better.

    They really are just “falling in line”.

    They could have tried some unique things. For example, the Florida Tuskers could combine a dark, gunmetal gray (for the “Tusker”) with orange (for Florida). Maybe even use them with a white helmet and pants (a look NOBODY seems to think is any good anymore). Then go with a dark gray jersey rather than the orange. The orange and white trim would, I think, just explode of a background like dark gray.

    Ah, well, better to follow than lead, I suppose.

    —Ricko

    “Maybe even use them with a white helmet and pants (a look NOBODY seems to think is any good anymore).”

    Aside from the Pro Combat ensemble that the NCAA is all about nowadays.

    Maybe they’re a Uni-farm league for the NFL too? Maybe they’re the guinea pig that’ll try out different colors, fonts, etc. to see how it looks on the field and on TV and to gauge fan reaction before one of the NFL’s teams commit to something out of the ordinary. Just a thought.

    The NFL is considering the UFL as a minor league, there has been dialog between the two leagues about this matter. With the demise of NFL Europe, there is a need for a development type of league. There have been numerous players, including Kurt Warner, who came out of NFL Europe.

    The other positive aspect of a NFL guided minor league in the USA is that it would help siphon off players who aren’t interested in college, but go anyway to major in football.

    Yep, in some ways that’s what they’ll be doing. Maybe something cool will squeak through into the NFL, from the UFL; i.e. those center decals are interesting, and a unique font here and there. Striping etc. I fear they’ll pick up on some shite though, cuz that’s mostly what I’m seeing from the UFL.

    Maybe the NFL is using that as motivation for UFL players. “Pick up your game and we’ll get you out of this crap and into some good lookin’ duds… like link.”

    Regarding heavily armored softball pitcher: Quite common in Senior Softball.

    Don’t poo-poo it, either. The Mikan Ultra II is still allowed, a bat tested to 125 mph. Nothing like a 125 mph line drive off your shin or eye socket from 45 or so feet away (by the time the pitcher’s strides forward and releases the ball).

    A teammate of mine down in Florida hit a shot that glanced off the third baseman’s glove into his jaw. Docs had to wait two days for the swelling to go down before they could stitch up the guy. 179 stitches, internally and externally, in his mouth.

    —Ricko

    Miken. Hey, I’m from Minneapolis; sometimes muscle memory makes the fingers go right to George’s last name.

    —ricko

    Speaking of scoreboards…

    I ordered DAMN YANKEES on dvd from Amazon, watched it yesterday.
    NIce doses of GREAT color footage of…
    * Senators’ home and road unis (totally accurate; loved the “dimensional” letter and numbers on the homes),
    * Old Wrigley Field in L.A.,
    * Games at Washington’s Griffith Stadium, using Roy Sievers (who wore #2) for Joe Hardy (“Shoeless Joe from Hannibal, MO”), with its huge NATTY BOH sign atop the scoreboard in right field.

    I also spotted… Camilo Pascual pitching for the Senators, Ed Fitzgerald catching, Gil McDougald batting for the Yankees, Yogi Berra catching a pop foul, and Mickey Mantle hitting a ball deep to center with the AL pennant on the line…

    “Hardy goes back, back…”

    (No spoiler here)

    —Ricko

    not really…wrigley (chicago) dimensions changed over time, but they were never identical to wrigley (LA)

    here’s a side by side i just whipped up

    close (both in size, feel and architecture), but carbon copies? nope

    Back in the 1990s, I was something of a PCL buff, and I met a couple met a couple of older SABR members in Chicago who claimed to have attended games at LA’s Wrigley. Both pronounced it the superior ballpark of the two. Photos certainly suggest it was the better-looking park, at least as far as the facades go.

    Wow…facade-wise, LA’s really the nicer of the two. The clock tower’s an interesting feature, too. Thanks, Phil!

    I needed to wash my eyes clean after those vile UFL jerseys, and those KC Monarchs/Baltimore Elite Giants pics were just the ticket. I also like the set of pics Graf Zeppelin posted of the Oakland Oaks/Seattle Rainiers throwbacks, man that is one striped hose-fest!!

    -Jet

    Oh, sorry. I saw “hose-fest” and “I’ll be taking my talents to South Beach” and thought they were related.

    My bad.

    —Ricko

    “I also like the set of pics Graf Zeppelin posted of the Oakland Oaks/Seattle Rainiers throwbacks,”

    Was Phil, wasn’t it?

    I have a pair of those NW striped stirrups in those colors. Really should order the Rainiers hat to match them, I suppose.

    —Ricko

    ab | August 2, 2010 at 7:55 am | Reply
    “The Sacramento team is using the “Group W font” as their number font. It was originally commissioned for Westinghouse’s broadcasting holdings (Group W). Most of their stations are owned by CBS now.
    Former users: WBZ Boston, KDKA Pittsburgh, WMAQ Radio Chicago.
    Current users: KPIX San Francisco, WJZ Baltimore.”

    I think that’s why I like Sacramento’s unis the best. I used to like the Group W font when I visited PA (although I’d watch WTAE news instead of KDKA – I miss Paul Long and Sally Wiggin).

    Not that any of the unis in the UFL are that great. I’d only wear Omaha’s and Sacramento’s, but I wouldn’t buy them or DIY them. They’d have to be on the clearance rack.

    The Nighthawks are trying so hard to look like the actual aircraft that I wonder if they aren’t maybe going to ask players covering kicks to run downfield with their arms locked out back behind them. Y’know, to get that true stealth fighter look. Maybe they’ll have them make jet plane noises as they run, too.

    That would be, like, so cool, huh.

    —Rickop

    Those are some incredible stealth fans. You have no idea how much effort it takes to look like empty seats. Like, hours putting on those costumes, man.

    I believe that also represents the entire season’s attendance for the Browns the year PRIOR to their appearance in the World Series.

    (Also the number of people who actually have seen A WINNER NEVER QUITS, evidently).

    —Ricko

    Jim,

    Speaking of Group W font, remember the old KYW from Cleveland (the predecessor of WKYC)?

    Check link out!

    That’s awesome. I have to look through that site and see what other stations have stuff I’d wear.

    Always loved radio station coffee mugs as well, but the only one we have now is for fictitious KBHR in Cicely, AK.

    Actually, I think it was Ricko who was saying the quality of play last year wasn’t that bad.

    If the league were on free TV, I’d probably care, but I’m not going to sit at my computer to watch an entire UFL game. I haven’t even seen an entire CFL or Aussie game online this season.

    I wish them luck, but I hope those Locos and Tuskers logos would disappear quickly. UGly.

    It wasn’t. The game’s were okay to watch, once you got past the unis.

    My issue with the league (oh, like they care what I think) is that that their marketing seems to lack focus, as does their overall presentation of the league…even its reason to exist.

    Not that they should go to school on the XFL, which is an even sadder example of the play being entertaining and the extraneous stuff being…total bullshit.

    “Cameras in the Cheerleaders Locker Room at Halftime! Don’t miss it!” If McMahon had just led with the football and not his Show Biz bent, he might have had a pretty good thing going.

    Anyone who watched that league and got past the crap knows that watching, for a couple examples, the running of John Avery of the Chicago Enforcers or the passing game of Tommy Maddox and the LA Extreme was really good, off-season fun.

    —Ricko

    For me the funniest part of the XFL was the opening of each game. They had two players at midfield, with a ball around ten yards away, and like a pair of dogs, both players had to pounce on the ball, and whoever came up with it, their team had the ball first(if I’m not mistaken)

    Proving my point exactly.

    Evidently a “jump ball” or sorts was more entertaining that coin toss.

    Apparently the original idea was to add up the total number of inches…

    But, y’know, with their wrestling background, they figured the number wouldn’t be all that impressive…what with steroids and such.

    —Ricko

    Didn’t last long either. During one of those scrums, a player blew out his shoulder and ended his season. The XFL decided they didn’t like that too much and changed the rule.

    I hear ya Ricko, but the whole point of the XFL was that “WE’RE NOT THE NFL!!!!’ to paraphrase Vince McMahon.

    The whole problem with the XFL was that McMahon treated its target audience much like he treats his wrestling audience: Mindless humanoids (to take a page out of Bobby Heenan’s book) who always fall for the bait-and-switch and will continue to return week after week to ultimately see the payoff. He knew that he couldn’t compete with the NFL from a talent level, so he figured the more bells and whistles he has = the more coverage his new league gets, and he’ll figure out how to deliver on his numerous proclamations later. Or not at all.

    I remember when the promos for the XFL came out, one of the things that they harped on was that the XFL was going to be a tougher brand of football than the pampered millionaires of the NFL were used to playing. Well, how can you deliver on that? By having a scrum at the beginning of the game to determine who gets the ball, and by outlawing fair catches. Well, the scrum idea resulted in a player getting injured, so that was gone almost immediately and while the fair catch was outlawed, more often that not the returner would signal for a fair catch and/or the special teams players were hesitant to nail a defenseless player. So aside from the fact that these were lame attempts aimed at proving that XFL players were tougher than NFLers, they couldn’t even deliver that.

    “Cameras in the Cheerleaders Locker Room at Halftime!” was a classic example of McMahon’s mentality and his background as a wrestling promoter. He never had any intention of showing anything racy, and the network never had any intention of letting him show anything racy. So he promos the hell out of the fact that “tonight, you’re going to see cameras inside the cheerleaders’ locker room! Uncensored! Anything goes!”, knowing that people are going to tune in, out of curiosity, and then pulled the classic bit where just as the cheerleaders are going to strip their undies off someone stands in front of the camera, blocking the view. The bait-and-switch might work with your wrestling audience, since they’re necessarily going to tune in the next week, or the week after that, or the week after that, to see what ultimately happens. But there was no payoff to the cheerleaders’ bit, and there was never going to be a payoff to the cheerleaders’ bit, and so people that tuned in out of curiosity felt ripped off, and people who tuned in to watch football felt ripped off because they were there to watch a football game and instead got this sophomoric pseudo-comedy bit that had nothing to do with football. So his football audience was pissed, and the non-football audience was pissed.

    As much as he likes to portray himself as a savvy businessman, at heart Vince McMahon is a wrestling promoter. That’s all he knows how to do, and he’s shown time and again that when he steps outside of his comfort zone, whether it’s into bodybuilding (the WBF), movies, or his own sports league, he’s a failure. Because he always resorts to his carnival huckster routine and applies it to everything he does, even if it doesn’t translate. And then he doesn’t know how to recover from it when it doesn’t work.

    Memo to Jeff Reed:
    Yes, you punched out a towel dispenser at a gas station. Yes, you were caught being drunk and belligerent in public.
    However, this has to be your most egregious offense yet:
    link

    You look like the victim of a rookie hazing that went way too far. How the heck can you kick in that outfit?

    I dunno. If you think about it, a skirt seems kinda practical for a kicker.
    Freedom of movement and all.

    Kidding aside. Did he have his legs shortened this off-season?

    —Ricko

    Skirts are for QBs, according to Jack Lambert.

    Besides, if you give them to kickers, Scottish ones like Lawrence Tynes might not wear anything underneath. Let’s stick to pants, please.

    anyone remember that beer commercial, forget which brand…where after the game is over, the real players are spraying each other with champagne, but the kicker is shaking up and spraying (insert beer)?

    and they tie him up … the gist is something like “champagne is for spraying…beer is for drinking”…

    and the final line of the commercial is (with disgust) “Kickers”

    I saw the article where Reed feels “bitter, angry, betrayed.” He’s a KICKER making almost 3 mill.

    I’d cut him just for the comments he made, the twerp.

    A jumpoff from the Shock breast-cancer game. Sunday, the Shock wore their home jerseys (with the wordmark SHOCK on the front) on the road. The Washington Mystics, the home team, wore pink uniforms with the wordmark WASHINGTON on them. It was only two or three years ago when the WNBA went to the “baseball” convention of nickname at home, city on road, and now we have everything completely reversed!

    Kind of like when the NBA’s Kings play most every other team at home ….

    Some MLB current uniform trivia:

    1. What four teams have 5 different jerseys?

    2. What three teams do not have an alternate jersey or cap?

    3. What is the only team to have four different cap designs?

    4. What four teams have a different road BP uniform than their home BP uniform?

    5. What is the total number of jerseys in MLB (not counting one-time throwbacks)?

    Really great quiz. However, I already have a bit of a headache, so I may have to pass.

    —Ricko

    1) Wow. Four teams? Really? I’ll guess Astros, Twins, Brewers and Nationals.

    2) Yankees, Dodgers, Tigers.

    3) Indians.

    4) I’ll say Yankees, Tigers, Red Sox, Phillies, plus I think the Rays (and maybe one or two others) have different home/road BP caps.

    5) 172?

    (1) Rockies, Astros, Brewers, Twins
    (2) Yankees, Dodgers, Tigers
    (3) Indians
    (4) Yankees, Phillies, Orioles,Boston
    (5) Someone far more brave than I can tackle that one…

    JTH you were right on (4) with the Tigers, they do have both. So the answer is actually FIVE teams that have home and road BP jerseys:

    Yankees
    Phillies
    Orioles
    Red Sox
    Tigers

    Blue Jays have different home and road BP jerseys. It’s easy to think they are the same because the only difference is that the road has gray side panels while the home has white.

    Right you are sir, so that’s actually SIX different teams that have home and road BP jerseys:

    Yankees
    Phillies
    Orioles
    Red Sox
    Tigers
    Blue Jays

    I consider myself corrected on the BP jerseys. Those are a little harder to track.

    To answer the last question, there are 108 different jerseys in MLB. 18 teams have four or more jerseys in their wardrobe. I think the alternate jersey has become a problem, especially when you consider that teams can wear them on the road.

    What gets me is that teams don’t even need to go overboard for revenue purposes. Compare the Indians to the Tigers

    Indians:
    – Home white jersey
    – Road greys jersey
    – Creme “fauxback” jersey
    – Blue alternate jersey
    – BP jersey
    – Home cap
    – Road cap
    – Alternate “C” cap
    – Alternate “I” cap
    – BP cap

    Tigers:
    – Home white jersey
    – Road grey jersey
    – Home BP jersey
    – Road BP jersey
    – Home cap
    – Road cap
    – Home BP cap
    – Road BP cap

    So, really, you can have a lot of uniform pieces that can be sold to the public without having a ridiculous amount of jerseys and alt caps.

    And the Yankees, one of the teams that has neither a home nor road alternate nor an alternate cap, is BY FAR the biggest mover of merchandise for MLB.

    “So, really, you can have a lot of uniform pieces that can be sold to the public without having a ridiculous amount of jerseys and alt caps.”

    I have a follow up question: Does anyone actually buy the BP caps and jerseys? Those things are almost white whales themselves, as in “does anyone have a picture of a fan /spectator actually wearing one of those?”

    I see the BP caps quite often. I actually see a lot more of last year’s model with the goofy ear panels. Usually on young kids.

    As far as the BP jerseys go, I see them a lot on women. Not too much on guys. For example:

    link

    I know the Padres are a five game jersey team: home white, away sand, home/ away navy alternate, Sunday home camo, and Thursday Throwback brown ’78s… They’re using six jerseys this season if you count the white ’84 throwbacks which were worn on the first Throwback Thursday of the season and will be worn again later in the season against the Cubs (for obvious reasons).

    I see the BP caps all the time. I think a lot of fans like to buy them so they have something different to wear to the park that players actually use.

    The talk about the Hartford Colonials and the Revolutionary War reminded me of a funny story from the documentary ” The Story of Us”. It seems the Indians had the bright idea of approaching the British and offered their tracking services against us out in the woods. In exchange for helping putting down the rebellion, the Indians would receive part of their land back.

    Well, that agreement didn’t turn out so well. We found out about this arrangement, and immediately targeted those Indian scouts aiding the British. Obviously, this plan failed, but it’s amusing to think how desperate the Indians were. If they couldn’t trust us, what made the Indians possibly think they could trust the British? It’s like trusting Lane Kiffin to run your football program.

    “We found out about this arrangement, and immediately targeted those Indian scouts aiding the British.”

    Daniel Morgan and his sharpshooters.
    Someday somebody’s gonna make a movie about that guy.
    One of the truly great forgotten characters (and I mean character) in American History.

    —Ricko

    link

    Check it out. The Giants have EIGHTEEN bobble nights this year- and I hadn’t even heard of some of them. I saw where Jennie Finch was in town, and threw out a pitch- and there’s a bobble of her, too.

    Come in handy as earthquake detectors, do they, Brinke?
    I mean, that could explain their popularity your market.

    —Ricko

    been here since ’99- only felt 2 very slight trembles.

    The last one was couple yrs ago. In church. Pastor was new, and he said, ‘Been here a few months now- haven’t felt one of those famous earthquakes you’re known for here.’

    At that VERY second- as soon as the word ‘here’ left his lips- the place shook a little bit.

    Everyone goes, ‘Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.’

    Joe DiMaggio Seals bobblehead? Sweet. Sweeter still if there were also a Dom DiMaggio Seals bobble to go with it.

    I believe the new USFL might be launching next season, they will have several of the old cities and nicknames from back in the day. We’ll have to see what the uniforms will be, some of those USFL sets weren’t bad.

    There’s nothing to the “New USFL”, just a guy who couldn’t actually get anything started, and now won’t admit that he’s got nothing. Ignore it.

    It never ceases to amaze what a huge failure Vince McMahon is in all things non-wrestling related.

    The WBF… “No Holds Barred”… The XFL…

    Should have included this player in yesterday’s talk, but in the category of NFL legends in strange uniforms, this one may take the cake. This hall of famer not only was in a foreign uniform, but playing in a different country:

    Raiders great #25, Fred Blientekoff(wrong spelling, I know) catching passes with the Montreal Alouettes of the CFL.

    li phil — do you think you could drop me an email at link? thanks very much, robert (robert harvell files).

    Some cool old media guides in this link

    link

    Found that on the Detroit Tigers website. Gotta love that old bobblehead-style mascot.

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