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Great Moments in Swiss-tory

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Got an interesting note the other day from reader Zac Neubauer, as follows:

My sister lives in Geneva, Switzerland, which got me thinking about what kinds of sport archives that they might have. I came across this web site known as the Swiss Poster Collection. I was a big fan of the Swiss Style of graphic design before I knew much about design at all, so I was thrilled to find that many of the posters in the collection are in that style. Here are a few — some from the traditional Swiss Style and others that I thought that the Uni Watch community would enjoy.

The posters that Zac singled out are among the most outstanding images ever to be featured on this site — you’re gonna like these. Let’s take a look:

• Love the simplicity of this soccer poster. Striped socks! Also fond of the slightly more detailed approach taken here.

• We’ve occasionally mentioned netball here on the site, but I think this is the first time we’ve seen a netball poster.

• World-class graphic design doesn’t have to be fancy or complicated. Sometimes it just involves some type and some straight lines.

• Of course, you can also go with a finely crafted illustration.

• Just hanging out, reading the sports section. Brilliant.

• I’d never heard of hornussen until Zac pointed me toward this poster (which makes me think of a pizzaiolo wielding a peel). There’s an additional poster here, and Zac also found an informational video about the sport.

• Oh man, how gorgeous is this? It’s from the first European Basketball Championships, held in 1935.

• The Bruins and Rangers played an exhibition in Zurich in 1959, which was promoted by this magnificent poster.

• “I’m not sure what this one is about,” says Zac, “but count me as a fan.” Me too.

• Here’s one of the oldest designs Zac singled out: a soccer poster from 1910. Feels much more modern and vibrant than that, no?

• I’m intrigued by this one. Aside from the gorgeous design, the ball seems more like a volleyball than a handball. Can anyone shed some light on what sport is being promoted here?

• Here’s a weird one. It’s an ad for the Swiss shoe/skate company Bally, but the curler kinda looks like he’s peeking up the skater’s skirt. Creepy.

• This is actually three separate curling posters that form one composite image.

• Zac sent links to lots of cycling posters. This one was my favorite.

And so on. If you want to see more, start here and search on the name of your desired sport.

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Would you buy striped hosiery from this man? Why the hell not?: I’m happy to announce that today is Comrade Robert Marshall’s birthday, and I’m sure it would make his day if you marked the occasion by ordering a few (or a few dozen) stirrups from him. It’ll make your day too, cuz his latest round of Uni Watch Stirrup Club offerings are the bomb. Details here.

And as long as we’re on the topic of Comrade Marshall, let’s take a look at his latest bobblehead commissions, which include renditions of Kayla Coffee (here’s an action video), Bob Clemente (video), and Zbigniew Boniek (video, plus also check out these close-up details). Wanna commission Marshall to make a bobblehead for you? Contact him here.

It’s also worth noting that Marshall recently supplied stirrups recently for reader Matt Ryburn’s groomsmen. Matt offers this post-wedding report: “When we were getting ready, from the other room I hear, ‘One side of the stirrup is taller than the other! Which side goes in front?’ Consider my groomsmen enlightened.”

Indeed, consider all all of us enlightened by Marshall’s assorted projects. Happy birthday, big fella — next round of Natty Bohs are on me.

Uni Watch News Ticker: On Friday I ran this photo of Red Schoendienst wearing a reverse-field Cards cap logo. Now someone on the Chris Creamer boards has come up with an example of that same logo appearing on a batting helmet. That shot is from the 1964 All-Star Game. I forwarded both photos to Brian Finch, who runs the Cardinals Hall of Fame. His reponse: “I honestly don’t know. I’ve noticed that before but have never found the time to look a little deeper. It’s on my list.” ”¦ Fans who attended all three days of the NFL draft really need to reexamine their social priorities got a special pin (with thanks to Joshua Exline). ”¦ Other draft notes from Joshua: Many teams have team-colored M&M’s on their tables, and here’s a view of all those No. 1 jerseys waiting for their close-up. ”¦ The logo of the Northwest League — a short-season A circuit — looks like this. But back in 1995, the league’s logo apparently looked like a rip-off of the NFL logo. That’s from this piece (great find by Ben Wideman). ”¦ The Nashville Sounds are doing throwback Thursdays this season (with thanks to Lee Wilds). ”¦ New logo for Connecticut College. Key line from that review: “Let’s be perfectly honest here. The only reason we are talking about this is because it involves camels” (as reported by Chris Haar). ”¦ Ben Traxel sent along a batch of behind-the-scenes photos from Opening Day at Busch Stadium. ”¦ Doug Keklak noted an interesting quote in this story, in which Browns coach Eric Mangini describes first-round pick Joe Haden as “a green-sticker guy.” Is that a reference to the green dot on radio-equipped helmets? Haden is a cornerback, and corners rarely wear the dot, so I’m a little puzzled by this one. ”¦ Several unfortunate tropes have collided in this pink tequila sunrise jersey, which the Wisconsin Timber Rattlers will be wearing for Mother’s Day (with thanks to Jeff Ash). ”¦ New uniforms for all the Michigan State teams. My god, is that typeface a disaster or what? Also, what’s with all the bronze trim? I like it from a strictly aesthetic standpoint, but since when is bronze a MSU color? ”¦ Mike Braam came across a breakdown of the best and worst Wisconsin sports logos. ”¦ Latest example of an early team wearing the swastika: this football team from Davis, California. No word on whether they had a suspicious-looking mascot (with thanks to Ken Maranta for the team photo). ”¦ Here’s a doozy: Duquesne used to have a goalie named Alex “Sailor” Iungerich — and he wore a sailor’s cap on the ice! Love all the stripes, too. No date on the photo, but a bit of research suggests that it’s from 1938ish (major find by Mike Hersh). ”¦ While looking for something else, I discovered that A-Rod Fan Club prexy Dallas Braden has a nipple piercing. Ewwww. ”¦ Speaking of Braden, FlipFlopFlyBall has whipped up little map that addresses his concerns. ”¦ What is this logo that Barry Zito was wearing on his undershirt the other night? His previous start he was wearing the mark of the beast. ”¦ Don’t think I’ve seen this before: a set of Expos jersey pins. ”¦ Here’s an oddity: The Rockies wore a standard black memorial patch for Keli McGregor with their road pins and black alts. But for they’re using a purple patch for their home pins and home vests, which I’m assuming is an MLB first (and, let’s hope, last). ”¦ You know how a broadcaster will sometimes say that a hitter “practically swung out of his shoes,” or words to that effect? Carlos Zambrano did that on Saturday — literally. He made good contact on the swing, hitting a long sac fly. Then he walked back to the dugout in his stocking foot, stopping near the batter’s box to pick up his wayward shoe (with thanks to Justin Bates for alerting me to this one). ”¦ As had been threatened planned, Ohio State’s spring scrimmage featured pink uni numbers, to benefit the Stephanie Spielman Fund (as noted by Mark Zibrik). ”¦ Alain Nana-Sinkam, the man behind longtime Uni Watch advertiser Classic Old School, was recently asked by Kennesaw State University’s theatre department to remake this jersey for a production of August Wilson’s Fences. Here’s how it turned out. ”¦ “The Bucks held a ‘red out’ promotion at the Bradley Center for Game Three of their series against the Hawks,” writes the Rev. Nørb. “Fans were encouraged to wear red and were given red towels. Curiously, though, the Bucks wore their standard white home unis, whilst the visiting Hawks wore their red alternates, which made for a rather lackluster and conflicted promotion.” ”¦ Interesting article about Nike and Umbro commissioning illustrators to design alternate World Cup kits (with thanks to Paul Shea). ”¦ The Mets held their annual Bark in the Park promotion over the weekend. Tons of adorable pics of uni-clad pooches here. ”¦ Speaking of Mets promos, they’re hoping to set the world record for the most people crocheting simultaneously (thanks, Kirsten). ”¦ The Giants held an Earth Day promotion yesterday, complete with a recycling logo sleeve patch. ”¦ Here’s another USA World Cup kit leak. ”¦ Brian Erni has noticed that Francisco Rodriguez has several different sets of frames for his goggles. Sometimes they’re white, sometimes trimmed in orange, and sometimes trimmed in blue. ”¦ Potentially major news brewing out in Las Vegas, where Bryce Harper plays. Remember him? He’s the kid who’s supposedly the greatest MLB prospect since forever. And look what he’s been wearing lately. Very, very interesting (big thanks to Samantha Skolnick). ”¦ Pepperdine baseball is wearing a memorial sleeve patch for former third baseman Patrick Rooney, who died in a plane crash last year (with thanks to Jim McCue). ”¦ The Vikings apparently have a new 50th-season logo. I’m not positive, but preliminary indications are that it will be worn as a jersey patch. ”¦ “My mom gave me a NFL dresser for my birthday in 1986,” writes Trevor Williams. “I’ve decided it’s time for it to go (it’s falling apart), but first I took some pictures.” ”¦ Mild hilarity in Chicago the other night, as a puck got lost in Antti Niemi’s gear. ”¦ If you go to this page and search on the word “stirrups,” you’ll see reader Alex Higley‘s question to Ryan Spilborghs of the Rockies, and Spilborgh’s kinda lame-o response. … When Phil was researching Sunday’s post about the Bears, he came across a coupla fantastic shots of Sid Luckman, from his college days at Columbia. This shot of him running against Cornell is pretty sweet, but the real prize is this image from a Columbia/Colgate game. Yabba-dabba-do! ”¦ Players on the Braves’ triple-A affiliate really hate the Gazoo helmets (with thanks to Brent Hardman). ”¦ New 1956 throwbacks for Mesa State (with thanks to Dom Lewis). ”¦ Here’s something I’ve never seen before: a vintage Rawlings zebra jacket! Can anyone identify the chest logo?

 
  
 
Comments (148)

    The logo that Zito has on is Canterbury of New Zealand, a rugby uniform company. From what i can tell the shirt he has on is one of their newer offerings Ionx shirts which allegedly has negative ions in the shirt to help with circulation and recovery. I have on, its like underarmour. No real difference with the “IONS”.

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    Also, what’s with all the bronze trim? I like it from a strictly aesthetic standpoint, but since when is bronze a MSU color?

    From the release on the MSU athletic website, they seem to be using bronze as an accent color because Spartan armor shields were plated in bronze.

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    It’s amazing how much FC Basel’s kits from that 1910 poster resemble FC Barcelona’s 2009 unis!( link ) That’s no coincidence, the founder of FC Barcelona, Joan Gamper, was a former FC Basel captain.

    In a related subject, has there been a book written about the “family trees” of Soccer Uniforms? For instance, Juventus copied Notts County’s look, and Southampton begat Athletic Club (Bilbao) and Atletico Madrid.

    Phil Mushnick, from the NY Post, on the Cardinals’ new black uniform. Includes a nice list of teams with color-named mascots now in black uniforms.

    Cards’ new unis (oxy)moronic
    Hail, hail the gangwear’s here! The NFL’s Cardinals unveiled their new jerseys — what a shock, they’re black! You were expecting Cardinals to stick with red? They join, among others, the Louisville Cardinals, St. John’s Red Storm, Duke Blue Devils, Texas Tech Red Raiders, Toronto Blue Jays, Harvard Crimson and Rutgers Scarlet Knights in black uniforms.

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    Back in the day soccer balls were constructed in the same fashion as volleyballs, just of heavier materials.

    This old link illustrates this.

    Perhaps the folks out on Long Island can say more about handball, as it’s the only place in the States where I know people play it.

    I’ve been uni-tracking the Indians & Nationals this season and already there are some interesting trends.

    The Tribe have worn their blue “softball” tops just twice. These were a real favorite in previous years. They even wore them for Tuesday home games, in spite of their status as a road alt. This season, the Indians are 0-2 in the blues.

    The Nats, on the other hand, have fully embraced their red alt, wearing it 8 times at home compared to 4 games in the home whites. Two series- Milwaukee & LA- have seen nothing but red. For those of you keeping score, Washington is 5-4 in the “softball” tops. 2-2 in the whites.

    [quote comment=”387676″]Woo-hoo! I get one! link represents link, an Olympic sport that has a big Euro following.[/quote]

    [quote comment=”387681″]Back in the day soccer balls were constructed in the same fashion as volleyballs, just of heavier materials.

    This old link illustrates this.

    Perhaps the folks out on Long Island can say more about handball, as it’s the only place in the States where I know people play it.[/quote]

    Alec and DenverGregg, you are right that it is team handball, but you forget that the game was played outdoors. This poster

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    is from the 1952 Field Handball Championships

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    You had to look at the little handwriting in the upper left corner to see a 52 there.

    When handball made its first appearance in was in 1936 in Berlin’s games as an outdoor game (field handball)

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    Of course that would make the ball look different to deal with the elements.

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    I am up early, so I didn’t notice the big 1952 in the middle of the title. I am sorry to sound condescending.

    [quote comment=”387683″]I’ve been uni-tracking the Indians & Nationals this season and already there are some interesting trends.

    The Tribe have worn their blue “softball” tops just twice. These were a real favorite in previous years. They even wore them for Tuesday home games, in spite of their status as a road alt. This season, the Indians are 0-2 in the blues.

    The Nats, on the other hand, have fully embraced their red alt, wearing it 8 times at home compared to 4 games in the home whites. Two series- Milwaukee & LA- have seen nothing but red. For those of you keeping score, Washington is 5-4 in the “softball” tops. 2-2 in the whites.[/quote]
    Nats will be in red alts for Thurs-Sun home games this season.

    [quote comment=”387686″][quote comment=”387683″]I’ve been uni-tracking the Indians & Nationals this season and already there are some interesting trends.

    The Tribe have worn their blue “softball” tops just twice. These were a real favorite in previous years. They even wore them for Tuesday home games, in spite of their status as a road alt. This season, the Indians are 0-2 in the blues.

    The Nats, on the other hand, have fully embraced their red alt, wearing it 8 times at home compared to 4 games in the home whites. Two series- Milwaukee & LA- have seen nothing but red. For those of you keeping score, Washington is 5-4 in the “softball” tops. 2-2 in the whites.[/quote]
    Nats will be in red alts for Thurs-Sun home games this season.[/quote]

    Seriously? Is that true?? So for four out of seven days (i.e., more than half the home schedule), they’re not going to wear white?

    [quote comment=”387688″]Can you really call it a jersey leak when the team has already worn one of the new jerseys?

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    most international clubs (and countries) unveil their home and away (change) jerseys separately- the US and Holland away jerseys have been unveiled, but not the home ones yet.

    Thank you for the contribution, Zac Neubauer. Those posters are brilliant.

    Comrade Robert Marshall’s Z. Boniek bobblehead is amazing.

    And finally…What in the world is Connecticut College thinking? It’s beyond belief that they would abandon one of the most original and striking images in sports (hell, in all of design) in favor of…of..of…that thing they’ve adopted. Surely there will be a student and alumni revolt?

    [quote comment=”387680″]Phil Mushnick, from the NY Post, on the Cardinals’ new black uniform. Includes a nice list of teams with color-named mascots now in black uniforms.

    Cards’ new unis (oxy)moronic
    Hail, hail the gangwear’s here! The NFL’s Cardinals unveiled their new jerseys — what a shock, they’re black! You were expecting Cardinals to stick with red? They join, among others, the Louisville Cardinals, St. John’s Red Storm, Duke Blue Devils, Texas Tech Red Raiders, Toronto Blue Jays, Harvard Crimson and Rutgers Scarlet Knights in black uniforms.

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    Yes, but the school colors of Louisville and Texas Tech are red and black, so they both get a pass.

    [quote comment=”387695″]Hey, Paul. I loved your original post on Robert Marshall. When did that run?[/quote]

    I think you’re referring to this:
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    On my way in to work this morning, I started thinking about something that bugs me about the Browns’ jerseys, and lo and behold, there’s a perfect example of it on UniWatch link(thanks, Paul)!

    About halfway back in the row of jerseys, you can see the left sleeve of a Browns jersey sticking out. On that sleeve are the initials “A.L.” for late Browns owner link. Why bestow this honor for 8 years now on a guy that had little positive impact on the Cleveland Browns?

    First off, the man’s been gone since 2002. He only had a 5% stake in the original Browns franchise. He helped facilitate the original Browns’ move to Baltimore, going so far as to provide the private jet on which the contracts sealing the deal were signed by he who shall not be named. He was owner of the new Browns for a mere 3 full seasons and hired terribly (I’m talkin”bout you, Carmen and Dwight… ah, what the hell… you too, Butch).

    The only reason I can figure it’s still there is because link, the current owner, is simply honoring his father. I get that link is the owner and he can do damn well whatever he pleases, but c’mon, Randy… for 8 years? Personally, I think it’s pretty damn lame. Opinions?

    In honor of Sir Marshall’s mummmummhmmuymth birthday, I’ve had his initials permanently affixed to a gauge on the ole jeep.

    [quote comment=”387687″][quote comment=”387686″][quote comment=”387683″]I’ve been uni-tracking the Indians & Nationals this season and already there are some interesting trends.

    The Tribe have worn their blue “softball” tops just twice. These were a real favorite in previous years. They even wore them for Tuesday home games, in spite of their status as a road alt. This season, the Indians are 0-2 in the blues.

    The Nats, on the other hand, have fully embraced their red alt, wearing it 8 times at home compared to 4 games in the home whites. Two series- Milwaukee & LA- have seen nothing but red. For those of you keeping score, Washington is 5-4 in the “softball” tops. 2-2 in the whites.[/quote]
    Nats will be in red alts for Thurs-Sun home games this season.[/quote]

    Seriously? Is that true?? So for four out of seven days (i.e., more than half the home schedule), they’re not going to wear white?[/quote]
    Yes it is. It was posted either on the team site, or one of the fan sites here in DC. Will find out, but I know that to be fact.

    [quote comment=”387696″][quote comment=”387695″]Hey, Paul. I loved your original post on Robert Marshall. When did that run?[/quote]

    I think you’re referring to this:
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    apologies in advance for what you’re aboot to see…but how many times will it be appropos?

    what’s the first thing rpm said at midnight?

    To honor Comrade Robert’s date of birth, I ordered two pairs of stirrups which will surely draw mreo eye rolling from my wife. But she did admit that this obsession with baseball jerseys, caps, and stirrups is better than an obsession with porn or gambling. :D

    The stirrups? Cards and Oaks. :)

    [quote comment=”387687″][quote comment=”387686″][quote comment=”387683″]I’ve been uni-tracking the Indians & Nationals this season and already there are some interesting trends.

    The Tribe have worn their blue “softball” tops just twice. These were a real favorite in previous years. They even wore them for Tuesday home games, in spite of their status as a road alt. This season, the Indians are 0-2 in the blues.

    The Nats, on the other hand, have fully embraced their red alt, wearing it 8 times at home compared to 4 games in the home whites. Two series- Milwaukee & LA- have seen nothing but red. For those of you keeping score, Washington is 5-4 in the “softball” tops. 2-2 in the whites.[/quote]
    Nats will be in red alts for Thurs-Sun home games this season.[/quote]

    Seriously? Is that true?? So for four out of seven days (i.e., more than half the home schedule), they’re not going to wear white?[/quote]
    It’s true Paul. It was put up either on the team site, WaPo, or one of the fan sites here in DC. I’ll find out which one it was.

    Also, the bronze in the MSU jerseys is the color of the Sparty statue. The new typeface is horrific.

    [quote comment=”387701″][quote comment=”387696″][quote comment=”387695″]Hey, Paul. I loved your original post on Robert Marshall. When did that run?[/quote]

    I think you’re referring to this:
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    Yes, excellent, thanks.

    Great post today, Paul! Like Zac Neubauer (thanks to you as well, sir), I knew I loved the Swiss Style long before I learned its name. There’s strength in simplicity, in minimalism, isn’t there?

    And then, just when I start to harrumph about so few appreciating that POV anymore, along comes the USA World Cup kit:

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    I am all the more pleasantly surprised to find this minimalist beauty is a Nike design, considering the adornment-heavy unis they rolled out last college football season. Well done, House of Swoosh.

    “The Rockies wore a standard black memorial patch for Keli McGregor with their road pins and black alts. But for they’re using a purple patch for their home pins and home vests, which I’m assuming is an MLB first (and, let’s hope, last).”

    Well, you say purple = death, so it’s appropriate, no?

    Apparently someone’s days in a certain uniform are about to be over.
    Makes this even sadder…
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    Or funnier, take your pick.

    —Ricko

    Happy Birthday, Blue! Robert is not only a friend, but he is also the softball umpire in my 20 week Wednesday Night league. I would order another pair of stirrups to celebrate, but even an octopus would look at me with crazy eyes since I must have purchased over a dozen pairs in the last year alone. Thanks for the leading the crusade and making so many of us readers look good from the knees down…oops! Not sure if this has anything to do with that, but the Chris Creamer Sports Logos Board is now on twitter: link

    Still love to see an interview or round table discussion with Paul and Chris down the line…

    Prior to the Nazi seizure of power there was nothing sinister about the swastika: it was a good luck sign in many cultures, including Native Americans. The Wikipedia article on the swastika has a picture of a Native American basketball team in 1909 whose shirts are proudly emblazoned with the symbol.
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    Happy Birthday, comarde Marshall! Finally forty, eh? You need to swing by your old home so I can finally buy you a legal beer.

    Since you like the less-than-lesser bowl games, my birthday wish for you is that the Buckeyes go to the Insight Bowl this season. ;)

    Love those latest bobbles! So if you have a soccer player holding a ball, I guess that means you can make basketball players now, huh? May have to consult with the family and get one for my bro.

    Have a great day, Robert.

    Should have included this earlier, but here is a great B&W of the Blackhawks from 1934 (Varsity Jacket and all): link

    I went to my first single A game since the gazoo appeared on friday. I remember back in the late 80s there was a contest by a local sports channel for kids to draw what Baseball/hockey/football would look like in 25 years. I distinctly remember kids drawing fancy robot helmets and i remember thinking “heh that’s cute”.

    Changing subjects, everytime i hear one of my Michigan State friends say “Go green! Go White!” i will happily be there to add the “Go Bronze!”

    While not as mesmerizing as curling, the hornussen video was most intriguing. I could see Robert Marshall or Marty Hick playing that between games of cornhole and croquet. Kinda liked this poster, too:
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    [quote comment=”387714″]Should have included this earlier, but here is a great B&W of the Blackhawks from 1934 (Varsity Jacket and all): link

    obviously BFBS

    /teebz

    [quote comment=”387712″]Prior to the Nazi seizure of power there was nothing sinister about the swastika: it was a good luck sign in many cultures, including Native Americans. The Wikipedia article on the swastika has a picture of a Native American basketball team in 1909 whose shirts are proudly emblazoned with the symbol.
    link

    Good, someone who maybe can answer something I’ve wondered about. Were the Nazis the first use it rotated 45 degrees, or at least the first to use it so predominantly in that configuration?

    I ask because the times I’ve seen it in other earlier uses, the overwhelmingly common depiction is with the lines vertical and horizontal.

    So, could the canted version be regarded as sinister? That’s what I’m driving at.

    If that’s the case, it makes Nostradamus’ reference to the “spider turned askew” (or something like that) even more intriguing.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”387697″]On my way in to work this morning, I started thinking about something that bugs me about the Browns’ jerseys, and lo and behold, there’s a perfect example of it on UniWatch link(thanks, Paul)!

    About halfway back in the row of jerseys, you can see the left sleeve of a Browns jersey sticking out. On that sleeve are the initials “A.L.” for late Browns owner link. Why bestow this honor for 8 years now on a guy that had little positive impact on the Cleveland Browns?

    First off, the man’s been gone since 2002. He only had a 5% stake in the original Browns franchise. He helped facilitate the original Browns’ move to Baltimore, going so far as to provide the private jet on which the contracts sealing the deal were signed by he who shall not be named. He was owner of the new Browns for a mere 3 full seasons and hired terribly (I’m talkin”bout you, Carmen and Dwight… ah, what the hell… you too, Butch).

    The only reason I can figure it’s still there is because link, the current owner, is simply honoring his father. I get that link is the owner and he can do damn well whatever he pleases, but c’mon, Randy… for 8 years? Personally, I think it’s pretty damn lame. Opinions?[/quote]
    I completely agree. A permanent memorial?

    And it’s a crappy memorial for a football jersey because the initials look like the old link.

    For the record, I’m cool with the permanent Halas/Hunt memorials, but those actually make sense because the men they honor weren’t just important to their respective franchises, but the very leagues the teams play(ed) in. So much so that the conference championship trophies are even named after them.

    Oh, THAT’s what that is.

    I thought it was to help Browns players get their jerseys on frontwards.
    “Always Left.”

    (I kid, I kid…although if they stick with, or expand, the turd look my long time respect for the Browns is gonna be in serious decline)

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”387722″]Why didnt this make the ticker?

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    Because I wasn’t aware of it until just now. But it’ll be in tomorrow’s Ticker!

    [quote comment=”387679″]It’s amazing how much FC Basel’s kits from that 1910 poster resemble FC Barcelona’s 2009 unis!( link ) That’s no coincidence, the founder of FC Barcelona, Joan Gamper, was a former FC Basel captain.

    In a related subject, has there been a book written about the “family trees” of Soccer Uniforms? For instance, Juventus copied Notts County’s look, and Southampton begat Athletic Club (Bilbao) and Atletico Madrid.[/quote]
    You’re right about Juventus copying Notts Cty’s look as Notts’ was the first football club iirc.

    Forget about the inverse colors on the helmet, how about everything that’s going on w the link? Pinstripes, stirrups, pins on hat with colored bill, vest, thick black piping, tiny number, NOBottom. Wow, that’s busy.

    Did all the Reds have their NOBottom w that uni?

    [quote comment=”387724″][quote comment=”387679″]It’s amazing how much FC Basel’s kits from that 1910 poster resemble FC Barcelona’s 2009 unis!( link ) That’s no coincidence, the founder of FC Barcelona, Joan Gamper, was a former FC Basel captain.

    In a related subject, has there been a book written about the “family trees” of Soccer Uniforms? For instance, Juventus copied Notts County’s look, and Southampton begat Athletic Club (Bilbao) and Atletico Madrid.[/quote]
    You’re right about Juventus copying Notts Cty’s look as Notts’ was the first football club iirc.[/quote]

    If I’m not mistaken, a number of clubs took their red/white sleeves from Arsenal… yup, according to link Hibernian, Sporting and Sparta Prague all co-opted the Gunner’s red “vest” w white sleeves.

    re: BEARS THROWBACKS thick front numerals.

    There was a time there, in the ’40, ’50s and even early ’60s when some uni suppliers evidently thought that the way to compensate for front unis being smaller than back numbers on football (and generic basketball) jerseys was to make them thicker. Guess they thought it made them easier to see/read, or something.

    Used to see it a lot. Not so much in the pros or colleges but in high schools and junior high and rec league jerseys, etc.

    Remember thinking it was odd.

    And, of course, it didn’t help readability one bit. If anything it simply looked goofy because, like, the center of a “4” would just about fill in.

    Eventually they stopped and clearly made the front numbers a smaller version of the back.

    Terry Proctor may have some recollections on this, too, of course (probably better than mine because he dealt with suppliers and teams on all levels).

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”387725″]Forget about the inverse colors on the helmet, how about everything that’s going on w the link? Pinstripes, stirrups, pins on hat with colored bill, vest, thick black piping, tiny number, NOBottom. Wow, that’s busy.

    Did all the Reds have their NOBottom w that uni?[/quote]
    Yep. And they link for last year’s link.

    [quote comment=”387725″]Forget about the inverse colors on the helmet, how about everything that’s going on w the link? Pinstripes, stirrups, pins on hat with colored bill, vest, thick black piping, tiny number, NOBottom. Wow, that’s busy.

    Did all the Reds have their NOBottom w that uni?[/quote]

    Yup.

    [quote comment=”387725″]Forget about the inverse colors on the helmet, how about everything that’s going on w the link? Pinstripes, stirrups, pins on hat with colored bill, vest, thick black piping, tiny number, NOBottom. Wow, that’s busy.

    Did all the Reds have their NOBottom w that uni?[/quote]

    they wore that from ’61-’66

    in the civil rights game jth mentioned, reds were throwing back to 1964

    read more about it here (scroll down to “2009 civil rights game”)

    [quote comment=”387725″]Forget about the inverse colors on the helmet, how about everything that’s going on w the link? Pinstripes, stirrups, pins on hat with colored bill, vest, thick black piping, tiny number, NOBottom. Wow, that’s busy.

    Did all the Reds have their NOBottom w that uni?[/quote]

    Yes:
    link

    link

    [quote comment=”387723″][quote comment=”387722″]Why didnt this make the ticker?

    link

    Because I wasn’t aware of it until just now. But it’ll be in tomorrow’s Ticker![/quote]
    Oh??? the world DOES NOT revolve around the Yankees’ franchise???? A cold slap of realism, that.

    The Canterbury Sponser also does football kits. Portsmouth FC is an example in a bigger league like the EPL.

    [quote comment=”387726″][quote comment=”387724″][quote comment=”387679″]It’s amazing how much FC Basel’s kits from that 1910 poster resemble FC Barcelona’s 2009 unis!( link ) That’s no coincidence, the founder of FC Barcelona, Joan Gamper, was a former FC Basel captain.

    In a related subject, has there been a book written about the “family trees” of Soccer Uniforms? For instance, Juventus copied Notts County’s look, and Southampton begat Athletic Club (Bilbao) and Atletico Madrid.[/quote]
    You’re right about Juventus copying Notts Cty’s look as Notts’ was the first football club iirc.[/quote]

    If I’m not mistaken, a number of clubs took their red/white sleeves from Arsenal… yup, according to link Hibernian, Sporting and Sparta Prague all co-opted the Gunner’s red “vest” w white sleeves.[/quote]
    An awesome look for football, IMO. During the 1979-80 our town football club hosted a few Malmo FC youth teams for a few weeks. After the series of games was complete, we did the obligatory shirt exchange. I got a one of those forest green w/ white sleeves (100% cotton–none of that silly polyester crap). I wore that sumbitch until the many washings reduced it to a pile of rags… would give an arm or 2 for that kit again!

    [quote comment=”387724″][quote comment=”387679″]It’s amazing how much FC Basel’s kits from that 1910 poster resemble FC Barcelona’s 2009 unis!( link ) That’s no coincidence, the founder of FC Barcelona, Joan Gamper, was a former FC Basel captain.

    In a related subject, has there been a book written about the “family trees” of Soccer Uniforms? For instance, Juventus copied Notts County’s look, and Southampton begat Athletic Club (Bilbao) and Atletico Madrid.[/quote]
    You’re right about Juventus copying Notts Cty’s look as Notts’ was the first football club iirc.[/quote]

    A few “family tree” notes from Ecuadorian teams-

    -Macara based their sky blue uni colors on Uruguay’s national team link

    – Independiente del Valle crest and kit are based on Inter-Milan. I don’t have any history behind the choice but look is obvious link link

    – Barcelona of Guayaquil’s uniforms look aren’t similar to Barcelona, but their crest certainly does link link
    Ironically, another Ecuadorian club’s-Deportivo Quito’s- shirts look similar to Barcelona/Basel
    link
    Okay, that’s probably way more than anyone wanted to know about soccer uniforms of Ecuadorian teams

    [quote comment=”387731″][quote comment=”387725″]Forget about the inverse colors on the helmet, how about everything that’s going on w the link? Pinstripes, stirrups, pins on hat with colored bill, vest, thick black piping, tiny number, NOBottom. Wow, that’s busy.

    Did all the Reds have their NOBottom w that uni?[/quote]

    they wore that from link

    in the civil rights game jth mentioned, reds were throwing back to 1964

    read more about it link (scroll down to “2009 civil rights game”)[/quote]

    You will note the dark band is only on the left arm in ’61.
    That’s because it began as a mourning band.
    Then the next year was on both arms, and stayed that way until they returned to sleeved jerseys.
    Can’t remember WHO the original mourning band was for, though, and never did get the story on why the second was added.

    —Ricko

    More info on Mesa State throwbacks (in the ticker)- they were worn as a tribute to a former coach named Walter “Bus” Bergman, so the patch on the left arm says “BUS”. Kind of nice from a school that is the basis for BFBS.

    [quote comment=”387738″][quote comment=”387731″][quote comment=”387725″]Forget about the inverse colors on the helmet, how about everything that’s going on w the link? Pinstripes, stirrups, pins on hat with colored bill, vest, thick black piping, tiny number, NOBottom. Wow, that’s busy.

    Did all the Reds have their NOBottom w that uni?[/quote]

    they wore that from link

    in the civil rights game jth mentioned, reds were throwing back to 1964

    read more about it link (scroll down to “2009 civil rights game”)[/quote]

    You will note the dark band is only on the left arm in ’61.
    That’s because it began as a mourning band.
    Then the next year was on both arms, and stayed that way until they returned to sleeved jerseys.
    Can’t remember WHO the original mourning band was for, though, and never did get the story on why the second was added.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Quick search in the Dressed to the Nines database yields that the 1961 mourning band was for club owner and field namesake Powel Crosley. The mourning band then was doubled on the other armhole because it was determined to be a good look. (Insert accent-BFBS remark here.)

    [quote comment=”387737″][quote comment=”387724″][quote comment=”387679″]It’s amazing how much FC Basel’s kits from that 1910 poster resemble FC Barcelona’s 2009 unis!( link ) That’s no coincidence, the founder of FC Barcelona, Joan Gamper, was a former FC Basel captain.

    In a related subject, has there been a book written about the “family trees” of Soccer Uniforms? For instance, Juventus copied Notts County’s look, and Southampton begat Athletic Club (Bilbao) and Atletico Madrid.[/quote]
    You’re right about Juventus copying Notts Cty’s look as Notts’ was the first football club iirc.[/quote]

    A few “family tree” notes from Ecuadorian teams-

    -Macara based their sky blue uni colors on Uruguay’s national team link

    – Independiente del Valle crest and kit are based on Inter-Milan. I don’t have any history behind the choice but look is obvious link

    link

    – Barcelona of Guayaquil’s uniforms look aren’t similar to Barcelona, but their crest certainly does link

    link
    Ironically, another Ecuadorian club’s-Deportivo Quito’s- shirts look similar to Barcelona/Basel
    link
    Okay, that’s probably way more than anyone wanted to know about soccer uniforms of Ecuadorian teams[/quote]
    No, that’s not true Jeremy.. it’s why we’re all here— to learn about everything– keep it up!

    However, I dare you to come across anything as beautiful as this kit: link

    Vamos San Lorenzo!!!!!!!!
    Paul,

    Last week you tipped us off to the Selvedge yard blog…. check this out:
    link and the back:
    link

    According to the AMA, the first Motorcycle Club… how awesome is this sweater?????

    [quote comment=”387740″][quote comment=”387738″][quote comment=”387731″][quote comment=”387725″]Forget about the inverse colors on the helmet, how about everything that’s going on w the link? Pinstripes, stirrups, pins on hat with colored bill, vest, thick black piping, tiny number, NOBottom. Wow, that’s busy.

    Did all the Reds have their NOBottom w that uni?[/quote]

    they wore that from link

    in the civil rights game jth mentioned, reds were throwing back to 1964

    read more about it link (scroll down to “2009 civil rights game”)[/quote]

    You will note the dark band is only on the left arm in ’61.
    That’s because it began as a mourning band.
    Then the next year was on both arms, and stayed that way until they returned to sleeved jerseys.
    Can’t remember WHO the original mourning band was for, though, and never did get the story on why the second was added.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Quick search in the Dressed to the Nines database yields that the 1961 mourning band was for club owner and field namesake Powel Crosley. The mourning band then was doubled on the other armhole because it was determined to be a good look. (Insert accent-BFBS remark here.)[/quote]

    Was gonna say. Also have recollection of the single band being black, but the double ones appearing to be navy (probably a baseball card observation). Never confirmed it one way or another.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”387742″][quote comment=”387740″][quote comment=”387738″][quote comment=”387731″][quote comment=”387725″]Forget about the inverse colors on the helmet, how about everything that’s going on w the link? Pinstripes, stirrups, pins on hat with colored bill, vest, thick black piping, tiny number, NOBottom. Wow, that’s busy.

    Did all the Reds have their NOBottom w that uni?[/quote]

    they wore that from link

    in the civil rights game jth mentioned, reds were throwing back to 1964

    read more about it link (scroll down to “2009 civil rights game”)[/quote]

    You will note the dark band is only on the left arm in ’61.
    That’s because it began as a mourning band.
    Then the next year was on both arms, and stayed that way until they returned to sleeved jerseys.
    Can’t remember WHO the original mourning band was for, though, and never did get the story on why the second was added.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Quick search in the Dressed to the Nines database yields that the 1961 mourning band was for club owner and field namesake Powel Crosley. The mourning band then was doubled on the other armhole because it was determined to be a good look. (Insert accent-BFBS remark here.)[/quote]

    Was gonna say. Also have recollection of the single band being black, but the double ones appearing to be navy (probably a baseball card observation). Never confirmed it one way or another.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ah-ha! From that 1962 Sporting News clipping of mine. Says the two-stripe version had navy stripes at armholes.
    link

    —Ricko

    per earlier discussions, check description of Pirates’ hats.
    Also no mention of Phillies’ stars being blue, just covered under description of the “red lettering”…
    link
    —Ricko

    Not sure if someone already answer this but:
    What is this logo that Barry Zito was wearing on his undershirt the other night? Canterbury–a New Zealand brand.

    [quote comment=”387743″]Vest:
    link

    Not a Vest:
    link

    I hope, at some point, this will stop driving me crazy.[/quote]

    Technically (and seriously) isn’t “B” more like a Tunic? Or doesn’t that work because it has a button front?

    [quote comment=”387720″][quote comment=”387697″]On my way in to work this morning, I started thinking about something that bugs me about the Browns’ jerseys, and lo and behold, there’s a perfect example of it on UniWatch link(thanks, Paul)!

    About halfway back in the row of jerseys, you can see the left sleeve of a Browns jersey sticking out. On that sleeve are the initials “A.L.” for late Browns owner link. Why bestow this honor for 8 years now on a guy that had little positive impact on the Cleveland Browns?

    First off, the man’s been gone since 2002. He only had a 5% stake in the original Browns franchise. He helped facilitate the original Browns’ move to Baltimore, going so far as to provide the private jet on which the contracts sealing the deal were signed by he who shall not be named. He was owner of the new Browns for a mere 3 full seasons and hired terribly (I’m talkin”bout you, Carmen and Dwight… ah, what the hell… you too, Butch).

    The only reason I can figure it’s still there is because link, the current owner, is simply honoring his father. I get that link is the owner and he can do damn well whatever he pleases, but c’mon, Randy… for 8 years? Personally, I think it’s pretty damn lame. Opinions?[/quote]
    I completely agree. A permanent memorial?

    And it’s a crappy memorial for a football jersey because the initials look like the old link.

    For the record, I’m cool with the permanent Halas/Hunt memorials, but those actually make sense because the men they honor weren’t just important to their respective franchises, but the very leagues the teams play(ed) in. So much so that the conference championship trophies are even named after them.[/quote]

    That’s what bothers me about the AL patch – Randy Lerner’s little tribute to his dad elevates the old man way, way above where he belongs.

    I get wanting to give your father a legacy. But not at the expense of the team’s.

    [quote comment=”387747″][quote comment=”387743″]Vest:
    link

    Not a Vest:
    link

    I hope, at some point, this will stop driving me crazy.[/quote]

    Technically (and seriously) isn’t “B” more like a Tunic? Or doesn’t that work because it has a button front?[/quote]

    Nope, I checked. Isn’t a tunic.

    [quote comment=”387747″][quote comment=”387743″]Vest:
    link

    Not a Vest:
    link

    I hope, at some point, this will stop driving me crazy.[/quote]

    Technically (and seriously) isn’t “B” more like a Tunic? Or doesn’t that work because it has a button front?[/quote]

    I think it’s closer to whatever you’d care to call this:

    link

    [quote comment=”387750″][quote comment=”387747″][quote comment=”387743″]Vest:
    link

    Not a Vest:
    link

    I hope, at some point, this will stop driving me crazy.[/quote]

    Technically (and seriously) isn’t “B” more like a Tunic? Or doesn’t that work because it has a button front?[/quote]

    I think it’s closer to whatever you’d care to call this:

    link

    Yeah, the Larry the Cable Guy look.
    (chicks dig it)

    [quote comment=”387752″]re: Reds NOB and twin armhole stripes…
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Just the lead photo. Rest of images aren’t there.

    [quote comment=”387680″]Phil Mushnick, from the NY Post, on the Cardinals’ new black uniform. Includes a nice list of teams with color-named mascots now in black uniforms.

    Cards’ new unis (oxy)moronic
    Hail, hail the gangwear’s here! The NFL’s Cardinals unveiled their new jerseys — what a shock, they’re black! You were expecting Cardinals to stick with red? They join, among others, the Louisville Cardinals, St. John’s Red Storm, Duke Blue Devils, Texas Tech Red Raiders, Toronto Blue Jays, Harvard Crimson and Rutgers Scarlet Knights in black uniforms.

    link

    Does Mushnick ever have anything positive to say? I mean, does he write about uniforms when teams introduce something he likes? What’s his take on the Bears and Packers’ throwbacks for next season? Does he like the Rays’ new powder blues?

    [quote comment=”387743″]Vest:
    link

    Not a Vest:
    link

    I hope, at some point, this will stop driving me crazy.[/quote]

    you and me both

    which is why today’s teams need to ditch the vest sleeveless jersey

    it AIN’T a vest and it looks like total shit

    [quote comment=”387689″][quote comment=”387688″]Can you really call it a jersey leak when the team has already worn one of the new jerseys?

    link

    most international clubs (and countries) unveil their home and away (change) jerseys separately- the US and Holland away jerseys have been unveiled, but not the home ones yet.[/quote]

    Well, unofficially, all World Cup jerseys will be unveiled tomorrow. EA’s World Cup 2010 video game hits stores.

    Thanks! It’s been driving me nuts, I’ve identified most of his other jersey’s I wasn’t familiar with…

    [quote comment=”387754″]Does he like the Rays’ new powder blues?[/quote]

    Dunno about Mush, but it’s getting old for me, fast. Royals, Rays and Jays all in powder, am I missing anybody?

    Had mentioned before, would have loved if the Rays had gone with a link powder and yellow combo, but they missed out on that one.

    What bothers me even more is KC wearing powder tops with royal sox. Terrible look, powder sox would do them some good. Photoshop coming….

    [quote comment=”387758″][quote comment=”387756″]Ricko/Teebz (anyone):

    Was this a University of Minn. Jersey or a minor team

    link

    link

    –Ricko[/quote]
    Ooh, if the title on that page is correct and that is, in fact, John Mayasich, that’s definitely a Gophpers uni.

    Mayasich was a friend of mine’s great uncle. (He was also on the 1960 gold medal-winning team.)

    [quote comment=”387757″]Thanks crew. Next question; How common was the subscript? Were the Reds the only ones to do that?[/quote]

    In MLB, yes…as far as I know.

    [quote comment=”387757″]Thanks crew. Next question; How common was the subscript? Were the Reds the only ones to do that?[/quote]

    I believe they were the only MLB team to do it (am I forgetting anyone?). But quite a few pro and college hoops teams have done it.

    [quote comment=”387762″][quote comment=”387758″][quote comment=”387756″]Ricko/Teebz (anyone):

    Was this a University of Minn. Jersey or a minor team

    link

    link

    –Ricko[/quote]
    Ooh, if the title on that page is correct and that is, in fact, John Mayasich, that’s definitely a Gophpers uni.

    Mayasich was a friend of mine’s great uncle. (He was also on the 1960 gold medal-winning team.)[/quote]
    Gophpers?

    [quote comment=”387765″][quote comment=”387762″][quote comment=”387758″][quote comment=”387756″]Ricko/Teebz (anyone):

    Was this a University of Minn. Jersey or a minor team

    link

    link

    –Ricko[/quote]
    Ooh, if the title on that page is correct and that is, in fact, John Mayasich, that’s definitely a Gophpers uni.

    Mayasich was a friend of mine’s great uncle. (He was also on the 1960 gold medal-winning team.)[/quote]
    Gophpers?[/quote]
    Cripes! WAS? I mean IS. He IS my friend’s great uncle.

    [quote comment=”387761″][quote comment=”387754″]Does he like the Rays’ new powder blues?[/quote]

    Dunno about Mush, but it’s getting old for me, fast. Royals, Rays and Jays all in powder, am I missing anybody?

    Had mentioned before, would have loved if the Rays had gone with a link powder and yellow combo, but they missed out on that one.

    What bothers me even more is KC wearing powder tops with royal sox. Terrible look, powder sox would do them some good. Photoshop coming….[/quote]

    UCLA baseball has, over the past decade or so, worn royal, navy and powder….with pretty much the same basic uni design (pins home, gray road) and just changing out the blue. Kind of an interesting effect from year to year, actually.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”387767″][quote comment=”387761″][quote comment=”387754″]Does he like the Rays’ new powder blues?[/quote]

    Dunno about Mush, but it’s getting old for me, fast. Royals, Rays and Jays all in powder, am I missing anybody?

    Had mentioned before, would have loved if the Rays had gone with a link powder and yellow combo, but they missed out on that one.

    What bothers me even more is KC wearing powder tops with royal sox. Terrible look, powder sox would do them some good. Photoshop coming….[/quote]

    UCLA baseball has, over the past decade or so, worn royal, navy and powder….with pretty much the same basic uni design (pins home, gray road) and just changing out the blue. Kind of an interesting effect from year to year, actually.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Those are great unis. They have pinstripes too? I know they wear light blue and dark blue alternate jerseys on occasion.

    IMO UCLA may have the best look in college, but that’s for another day.

    A quick search didn’t come up with any Rays in high socks with the powders, but the Royals would look much better with link.

    Actually, the Rays navy/powder looks much better than the royal/powder combo. I’ve liked the navy/powder combo since I saw it on link link link. Was very happy when the Titans started using it.

    [quote comment=”387768″][quote comment=”387767″][quote comment=”387761″][quote comment=”387754″]Does he like the Rays’ new powder blues?[/quote]

    Dunno about Mush, but it’s getting old for me, fast. Royals, Rays and Jays all in powder, am I missing anybody?

    Had mentioned before, would have loved if the Rays had gone with a link powder and yellow combo, but they missed out on that one.

    What bothers me even more is KC wearing powder tops with royal sox. Terrible look, powder sox would do them some good. Photoshop coming….[/quote]

    UCLA baseball has, over the past decade or so, worn royal, navy and powder….with pretty much the same basic uni design (pins home, gray road) and just changing out the blue. Kind of an interesting effect from year to year, actually.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Those are great unis. They have pinstripes too? I know they wear light blue and dark blue alternate jerseys on occasion.[/quote]

    To clarify…don’t know what they’re wearing this year. Meant to say that for a stretch somewhere between, I think, the late ’90s and a few years ago, they did that “change out the blue” thing.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”387770″][quote comment=”387768″][quote comment=”387767″][quote comment=”387761″][quote comment=”387754″]Does he like the Rays’ new powder blues?[/quote]

    Dunno about Mush, but it’s getting old for me, fast. Royals, Rays and Jays all in powder, am I missing anybody?

    Had mentioned before, would have loved if the Rays had gone with a link powder and yellow combo, but they missed out on that one.

    What bothers me even more is KC wearing powder tops with royal sox. Terrible look, powder sox would do them some good. Photoshop coming….[/quote]

    UCLA baseball has, over the past decade or so, worn royal, navy and powder….with pretty much the same basic uni design (pins home, gray road) and just changing out the blue. Kind of an interesting effect from year to year, actually.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Those are great unis. They have pinstripes too? I know they wear light blue and dark blue alternate jerseys on occasion.[/quote]

    To clarify…don’t know what they’re wearing this year. Meant to say that for a stretch somewhere between, I think, the late ’90s and a few years ago, they did that “change out the blue” thing.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Well, they have never quite made it clear what shade of blue they have. Which is okay for me. I prefer the dark blue numbers on the white football jerseys to what they have now, but I love the light blue home jerseys.

    [quote comment=”387761″][quote comment=”387754″]Does he like the Rays’ new powder blues?[/quote]

    Dunno about Mush, but it’s getting old for me, fast. Royals, Rays and Jays all in powder, am I missing anybody?

    What bothers me even more is KC wearing powder tops with royal sox. Terrible look, powder sox would do them some good. Photoshop coming….[/quote]

    they’re all doing it wrong…rays & royals use it as a softball top, and the jays, who at least wear it as intended (actual uniform), wear it at home…and it’s a road uni

    as far as royals–the rups HAVE GOT to be royal…as do the caps … and they need to revert the script to white

    correctWRONG

    even if they were to go with powder pants…it’d still be wrong…, but with proper stirrups and a guy who actually knows how to wear a uni, it’s not as bad…but still:

    correct vs. incorrect

    re: UCLA…was when their varsity baseball hats used the Red Sox “B” in athletic gold, edged in white. That was the hat logo for numerous years…some seasons hat was royal, some navy and some powder.

    [quote comment=”387772″][quote comment=”387761″][quote comment=”387754″]Does he like the Rays’ new powder blues?[/quote]

    Dunno about Mush, but it’s getting old for me, fast. Royals, Rays and Jays all in powder, am I missing anybody?

    What bothers me even more is KC wearing powder tops with royal sox. Terrible look, powder sox would do them some good. Photoshop coming….[/quote]

    they’re all doing it wrong…rays & royals use it as a softball top, and the jays, who at least wear it as intended (actual uniform), wear it at home…and it’s a road uni

    as far as royals–the rups HAVE GOT to be royal…as do the caps … and they need to revert the script to white

    linklink

    even if they were to go with powder pants…it’d still be wrong…, but with proper stirrups and a guy who actually knows how to wear a uni, it’s not as bad…but still:

    link vs. link[/quote]

    I’m actually not mad at them for updating the powder jerseys to include the royal blue – and surprisingly don’t despise the softball top with white pants. But if they’re gonna do it, go powder sox. The royal, powder, white thing is too much – like the Giants orange, black, orange, cream, black thing they’ve got going with the new jerseys.

    That said, the all powder look is nice as a one or two-off, but I think it should be kept in the 80’s, especially since it was a road look which the Jays have now butchered.

    Royals thing gets all kerfuffled because they wear the powder at home and because powder really was never their “color,” just a color that was a common substitute for road grays. Really It’s no more a Royals’ team color than it is for the Cardinals, Phillies or White Sox.

    So when they pair it with white pants, saying they should wear powder socks is a little akin to saying they should wear gray socks. Sorta. Know what I mean? Powder isn’t, and has never been, a team color. They are essentially wearing a former roadie and home, and can get away with it because it isn’t gray.

    As I said, is just screwy because of that. And hard to find exactly where it should sit down in our mind.

    —Ricko

    I know what you’re saying, but that was my original (convoluted) point. If they’re going to bring powder into the mix, go all the way with it. Right now it’s in uni-purgatory, just floating in the ether.

    It beats the royal blue tops though.

    [quote comment=”387777″]Royals thing gets all kerfuffled because they wear the powder at home and because powder really was never their “color,” just a color that was a common substitute for road grays. Really It’s no more a Royals’ team color than it is for the Cardinals, Phillies or White Sox.

    So when they pair it with white pants, saying they should wear powder socks is a little akin to saying they should wear gray socks. Sorta. Know what I mean? Powder isn’t, and has never been, a team color. They are essentially wearing a former roadie and home, and can get away with it because it isn’t gray.

    As I said, is just screwy because of that. And hard to find exactly where it should sit down in our mind.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I dunno, Ricko; with the powder blues, the team name and numbers were in white, with no border, meaning that powder blue was the only “spectrum” color (i. e, not counting black and white) on those jerseys and pants. Had they gone to dull gray, the lettering couldn’t possibly have been white; they would have had to change it. They were able to make it white [i]because[/i] everything else was light blue.

    The powder blue worn in the early 1980s by the Cardinals would certainly be a case of powder blue substituting in for gray, because all the other elements are the same.

    But not the Royals. They made themselves a new uniform with powder blue as the defining (only!) feature.

    I aree that it’s a road uniform, though. “Home whites” and “road colors”, and this is road colors.

    Here is a sampling of uni numbers some of the new NFL Draftees are going with…

    link

    Eric Berry’s #29 is in honor of former teammate Inky Johnson. Pretty cool.

    link

    [quote comment=\”387772\”][quote comment=\”387761\”][quote comment=\”387754\”]Does he like the Rays\’ new powder blues?[/quote]

    Dunno about Mush, but it\’s getting old for me, fast. Royals, Rays and Jays all in powder, am I missing anybody?

    What bothers me even more is KC wearing powder tops with royal sox. Terrible look, powder sox would do them some good. Photoshop coming….[/quote]

    they\’re all doing it wrong…rays & royals use it as a softball top, and the jays, who at least wear it as intended (actual uniform), wear it at home…and it\’s a road uni

    as far as royals–the rups HAVE GOT to be royal…as do the caps … and they need to revert the script to white

    linklink

    even if they were to go with powder pants…it\’d still be wrong…, but with proper stirrups and a guy who actually knows how to wear a uni, it\’s not as bad…but still:

    link vs. link[/quote]

    The Royals wore their powder hats with their same colored jerseys the other day in the “powder blue game” against the Blue Jays. The hats were too much powder blue. Thats even with the royal bills.

    Here’s anudda ticker post for tomorrow…

    link

    I am thinking Aikman wont see this tribute in person though, since he only does COWPIES Games on FOX

    The interesting thing about K-Rod’s goggles is that he wears them depending upon what hat the Mets are wearing. When the Mets wear the traditional blue hat, his goggles are trimmed with blue and orange on the sides. Meanwhile, when they wear one of their black hats, he wears goggles trimmed in black and blue. The white trimmed goggles were only worn in preseason, as he probably was waiting on these other custom trimmed goggles to be made for him.

    A couple of people have mentioned the logo on Zito’s undershirt already, but I have an extra detail. The logo is meant to look like CCC (Canterbury Clothing Company) with the “negative space” of the C being a Kiwi’s head (the bird, not the fruit, a national symbol of New Zealand).

    Just because the MSU stuff was brought up again, I have found some pictures of the helmet stripe. The press release really didn’t show the helmets off too well (for good reason)

    link
    link

    [quote comment=”387778″]I know what you’re saying, but that was my original (convoluted) point. If they’re going to bring powder into the mix, go all the way with it. Right now it’s in uni-purgatory, just floating in the ether.

    It beats the royal blue tops though.[/quote]

    The royal blue tops are much better. I even liked the black tops. (For some reason I like royal blue and black together, a la Duke.) Remember, powder blue is not a taem color, so why wear a jersey of that color? It was the 1970s/1980s version of the grey uniform. Many or even most teams then didn’t wear grey road uniforms but rather powder blue ones. The Royals might as well wear grey jerseys with white pants at home (and I don’t think that’s ever been done before, nor should it be).

    Powder blue looks great on UCLA, North Carolina, Columbia, and Larry Bird in 1979. But for baseball, it’s out of sync in this day and time.

    sorry, woke up a bit, um hungover lamenting the 40 last night and had to race to mail off some stirrups this morning, and buy a friend who moved down south some giardiniera to mail him as well. and when i got home, i was overwhelmed. anyway, paul, phil thank you, and everyone else too, this is an outstanding community. i am not normally a big birthday celebrator, but all the kind words, i am practically in tears here, seriously. can this captain random post dirtbag share a random story?

    i didn’t ask for the night off because i have not been working much with the transition from basketball to football, so last week i checked my schedule to see what fate the corn mother would bestow on her least favourite son. would it be naked kickball betwixt the swedish bikini team and the hawaiian tropics calendar girls? um, no, it’s basketball, but not just any league, i am in chicago’s gold coast, and this league has a team, THE team, a porn star team. apparently some interweb porn stars thought it would be fun to play basketball. the bang bros’ cornerstone is anchored by a young ron jeremy type who wears short shorts, and quite literally plays balls out defense. the rest of the team is the biggest batch of greasy tattooed swarmy characters that you ever did see, and uber aggressive. i can not tell you how disconcerting and horrific this team is, it is the disaster of all disasters. anyway, happy birthday to me, thanks corn mother. if i can do it without anyone noticing, i’ll get a pixture of this horror show.

    okay, end story, thanks again everybody, you totally made my day.

    [quote comment=”387779″][quote comment=”387777″]Royals thing gets all kerfuffled because they wear the powder at home and because powder really was never their “color,” just a color that was a common substitute for road grays. Really It’s no more a Royals’ team color than it is for the Cardinals, Phillies or White Sox.

    So when they pair it with white pants, saying they should wear powder socks is a little akin to saying they should wear gray socks. Sorta. Know what I mean? Powder isn’t, and has never been, a team color. They are essentially wearing a former roadie and home, and can get away with it because it isn’t gray.

    As I said, is just screwy because of that. And hard to find exactly where it should sit down in our mind.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I dunno, Ricko; with the powder blues, the team name and numbers were in white, with no border, meaning that powder blue was the only “spectrum” color (i. e, not counting black and white) on those jerseys and pants. Had they gone to dull gray, the lettering couldn’t possibly have been white; they would have had to change it. They were able to make it white [i]because[/i] everything else was light blue.

    The powder blue worn in the early 1980s by the Cardinals would certainly be a case of powder blue substituting in for gray, because all the other elements are the same.

    But not the Royals. They made themselves a new uniform with powder blue as the defining (only!) feature.

    I aree that it’s a road uniform, though. “Home whites” and “road colors”, and this is road colors.[/quote]

    Not being combative, just trying to figure this out.

    Honest question. It SEEMS like a team color because we associate it with them, but IS powder blue an official Royal team color (not just listed as a PMS spec used) and ,if so, when was it added?

    Was it while they still were wearing powder on the road or after? It seems to make no sense afterward (they’d given it up totally, even had gray hats for a time, remember), except to justify alternate gear, seeing as they’ve never used powder as a trim color either at home or on the road…and still don’t. Until this recent use at home, it’s never been anything but an alternative to gray road jerseys and pants.

    It sure wasn’t a team color originally. First roads were gray, and colors were Royal and White. The powder came in with double knits.

    Sure, some could say it’s blue and from the same area of the color spectrum, so therefore it’s automatically a color for them.
    The seems a bit of a convenience, because we could have said the same thing about the ’70s or ’80s Braves, Brewers, Expos, Mariners….
    But not one of them and, frankly, none of us consider powder a team color for those teams. Now OR then.

    That’s why I ask if and when the Royals actually declared powder a full-fledged team color. The “when” may speak to the motive. Could be as big a marketing finagle (meaning a handy justification) as anyone else’s regarding black.

    —Ricko

    Not being combative, just trying to figure this out.

    Honest question. It SEEMS like a team color because we associate it with them, but IS powder blue an official Royal team color (not just listed as a PMS spec used) and ,if so, when was it added?

    Was it while they still were wearing powder on the road or after? It seems to make no sense afterward (they’d given it up totally, even had gray hats for a time, remember), except to justify alternate gear, seeing as they’ve never used powder as a trim color either at home or on the road…and still don’t. Until this recent use at home, it’s never been anything but an alternative to gray road jerseys and pants.

    It sure wasn’t a team color originally. First roads were gray, and colors were Royal and White. The powder came in with double knits.

    Sure, some could say it’s blue and from the same area of the color spectrum, so therefore it’s automatically a color for them.
    The seems a bit of a convenience, because we could have said the same thing about the ’70s or ’80s Braves, Brewers, Expos, Mariners….
    But not one of them and, frankly, none of us consider powder a team color for those teams. Now OR then.

    That’s why I ask if and when the Royals actually declared powder a full-fledged team color. The “when” may speak to the motive. Could be as big a marketing finagle (meaning a handy justification) as anyone else’s regarding black.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    PBFPBS?

    Hey Uniwatchers!!!!
    Is it just me or do the New Era 5950’s made in China run bigger than their U.S counterparts?

    [quote comment=”387779″]The powder blue worn in the early 1980s by the Cardinals would certainly be a case of powder blue substituting in for gray, because all the other elements are the same.[/quote]

    For anyone with photoshop and time on their hands…

    …just wondering what some other teams would look like if they had substituted powder for gray. I’m thinking of the Orioles, Padres, A’s, etc.

    Could you imagine if the Pirates went to powder instead of introducing the bumblebee Garanimals unis? Not saying I would endorse any of this – just curious to see what it would have looked like.

    [quote comment=”387787″] i am not normally a big birthday celebrator…[/quote]

    But Jimmy Hoffa brough a link!

    [quote comment=”387769″]Actually, the Rays navy/powder looks much better than the royal/powder combo. I’ve liked the navy/powder combo since I saw it on link link link. Was very happy when the Titans started using it.[/quote]

    I love that color combo – it’s one of the reasons Villanova is my favorite college hoops team.

    I really love the navy numbers on the powder jersey. Looks better than white numbers.

    I’d definitely wear that.

    [quote comment=”387791″][quote comment=”387779″]The powder blue worn in the early 1980s by the Cardinals would certainly be a case of powder blue substituting in for gray, because all the other elements are the same.[/quote]

    For anyone with photoshop and time on their hands…

    …just wondering what some other teams would look like if they had substituted powder for gray. I’m thinking of the Orioles, Padres, A’s, etc.

    Could you imagine if the Pirates went to powder instead of introducing the bumblebee Garanimals unis? Not saying I would endorse any of this – just curious to see what it would have looked like.[/quote]

    don’t have the time today…

    but here’s one i did a while back…

    meet the (powder) mets

    yeah…there’s a reason why only some teams did it…and i liked a few of those…

    but the mets or anyone who doesn’t have a predominantly blue color scheme (see here and here for actual grades)…it’s not a good look

    [quote comment=”387686″]Nats will be in red alts for Thurs-Sun home games this season.[/quote]

    As someone who doesn’t have a problem with softball tops, I like.

    Even if I had a problem, I’d be okay with the decision based on the fact that, design-wise, the curly W appeals to me more than that beveled block font.

    Now if the home jerseys were in script as the road ones are, or if they used this tweak Phil did for me, link then I’d say wear the whites.

    [quote comment=”387794″][quote comment=”387791″][quote comment=”387779″]The powder blue worn in the early 1980s by the Cardinals would certainly be a case of powder blue substituting in for gray, because all the other elements are the same.[/quote]

    For anyone with photoshop and time on their hands…

    …just wondering what some other teams would look like if they had substituted powder for gray. I’m thinking of the Orioles, Padres, A’s, etc.

    Could you imagine if the Pirates went to powder instead of introducing the bumblebee Garanimals unis? Not saying I would endorse any of this – just curious to see what it would have looked like.[/quote]

    don’t have the time today…

    but here’s one i did a while back…

    link

    yeah…there’s a reason why only some teams did it…and i liked a few of those…

    but the mets or anyone who doesn’t have a predominantly blue color scheme (see link and link for actual grades)…it’s not a good look[/quote]

    Yeah, I figure most of them would look horrid, but some may actually surprise. Only one way to know, but that’s a story for another day.

    [quote comment=”387795″][quote comment=”387686″]Nats will be in red alts for Thurs-Sun home games this season.[/quote]

    As someone who doesn’t have a problem with softball tops, I like.

    Even if I had a problem, I’d be okay with the decision based on the fact that, design-wise, the curly W appeals to me more than that beveled block font.

    Now if the home jerseys were in script as the road ones are, or if they used this tweak Phil did for me, link then I’d say wear the whites.[/quote]
    Would love to see the Nats rock that. Maybe do a fauxback of that in cream/off white.

    [quote comment=”387797″]Powder blue also looks good on fire trucks close to UNC’s campus.

    link
    And on the link that drive down my alley.

    I’ve said this before about the Blue Jays powder blue jerseys.

    Yes, they’re wrong. They were never worn at home.

    But the team right now sucks. 17 years and counting without playoffs, perennial third or fourth best team in the division, no hope of sniffing the playoffs.

    Its not just a throwback to older laundry, its a throwback to the days when the fans first fell in love with the team. The fans see those jerseys and they think Moseby, Bell, Barfield, Whitt, Martinez, Stieb, Clancy, Key, Mulliniks, all the names that recall when the city really fell in love with the team.

    They’ve built a marketing program around throwback fridays, friday home games, which get more buzz than any other games. This team has to build buzz any way they can, because they aren’t going to do it with the on-field product.

    Is it wrong uni-wise? Absolutely. Is it smart marketing? Absolutely.

    The Batting Stance guy is wearing a “I’m calling it Shea” shirt in his week in review clip on youtube link

    [quote comment=”387800″]I’ve said this before about the Blue Jays powder blue jerseys.

    Yes, they’re wrong. They were never worn at home.

    But the team right now sucks. 17 years and counting without playoffs, perennial third or fourth best team in the division, no hope of sniffing the playoffs.

    Its not just a throwback to older laundry, its a throwback to the days when the fans first fell in love with the team. The fans see those jerseys and they think Moseby, Bell, Barfield, Whitt, Martinez, Stieb, Clancy, Key, Mulliniks, all the names that recall when the city really fell in love with the team.

    They’ve built a marketing program around throwback fridays, friday home games, which get more buzz than any other games. This team has to build buzz any way they can, because they aren’t going to do it with the on-field product.

    Is it wrong uni-wise? Absolutely. Is it smart marketing? Absolutely.[/quote]

    Hey, here’s an idea: Go back to the old uniforms. And groom some great home-grown talent like you did from 1977-93.

    [quote comment=”387678″]Also, what’s with all the bronze trim? I like it from a strictly aesthetic standpoint, but since when is bronze a MSU color?

    From the release on the MSU athletic website, they seem to be using bronze as an accent color because Spartan armor shields were plated in bronze.

    link

    Better than the Silver/Grey that Nike seems to foist on everyone as an accent color (Oregon, Syracuse) to the point of expecting teams to put Silver/Grey NOBs over White jerseys.

    I like the new MSU theme – the football jersey shoulder accents could have been better,they appear barren and simply end abruptly, without a real sensibility to it. And “STATE” needs to go back on the basketbal jerseys.

    But all-in-all, I could live with the bronze accents, and these updates are immensely better than 85% of the current uni updates.

    [quote comment=”387800″]I’ve said this before about the Blue Jays powder blue jerseys.

    Yes, they’re wrong. They were never worn at home.[/quote]

    geeman beat me to it, but what’s wrong with going back to those unis?

    the whites at home, the blues on the road

    /done and done…and dump that black alt in lake ontario, where it belongs

    [quote comment=”387780″]Here is a sampling of uni numbers some of the new NFL Draftees are going with…

    link

    Eric Berry’s #29 is in honor of former teammate Inky Johnson. Pretty cool.

    link

    I am pretty certain that I saw Tim Tebow holding up a #10 Broncos jersey at some type of press conference. Maybe the #10 was for the year 2010?

    [quote comment=”387803″][quote comment=”387678″]Also, what’s with all the bronze trim? I like it from a strictly aesthetic standpoint, but since when is bronze a MSU color?

    From the release on the MSU athletic website, they seem to be using bronze as an accent color because Spartan armor shields were plated in bronze.

    link

    Better than the Silver/Grey that Nike seems to foist on everyone as an accent color (Oregon, Syracuse) to the point of expecting teams to put Silver/Grey NOBs over White jerseys.

    I like the new MSU theme – the football jersey shoulder accents could have been better,they appear barren and simply end abruptly, without a real sensibility to it.

    And “STATE” needs to go back on the basketbal jerseys.

    But all-in-all, I could live with the bronze accents, and these updates are immensely better than 85% of the current uni updates.[/quote]

    Second thought – I missed the new, angled helmet stripe. YUK! That is a horrible change – go back to the regular white stripe!

    “Happy Birthday to you,
    Happy Birthday to you,
    Happy Birthday…”
    link

    This is where one one yahoo keeps on singing after everyone else has stopped.
    “How oh-old are you…?”

    [quote comment=”387806″][quote comment=”387803″][quote comment=”387678″]Also, what’s with all the bronze trim? I like it from a strictly aesthetic standpoint, but since when is bronze a MSU color?

    From the release on the MSU athletic website, they seem to be using bronze as an accent color because Spartan armor shields were plated in bronze.

    link

    Better than the Silver/Grey that Nike seems to foist on everyone as an accent color (Oregon, Syracuse) to the point of expecting teams to put Silver/Grey NOBs over White jerseys.

    I like the new MSU theme – the football jersey shoulder accents could have been better,they appear barren and simply end abruptly, without a real sensibility to it.

    And “STATE” needs to go back on the basketbal jerseys.

    But all-in-all, I could live with the bronze accents, and these updates are immensely better than 85% of the current uni updates.[/quote]

    Second thought – I missed the new, angled helmet stripe. YUK! That is a horrible change – go back to the regular white stripe![/quote]

    The Spartans also fought under blue skies and bled.
    That mean powder blue and crimson are Mighigan State University colors now, too?

    Probably some of ’em even had black hair.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”387717″][quote comment=”387714″]Should have included this earlier, but here is a great B&W of the Blackhawks from 1934 (Varsity Jacket and all): link

    obviously BFBS

    /teebz[/quote]

    Note the large amount of white! (Not BFBS)
    Note the large amount of link! (BFBS)

    I love seeing random Cubs wearing #21. They’ll give that number to anyone these days…

    Time for Blackhawks hockey, in their sparkling whites!

    Comrade Marshall,

    I commend you on the 40th anniversary of the grandest day in stirrup history. May the plebeians honour you with numerous gifts of wine and women on this most glorious day in the regime.

    Comrade Teebz

    PS – I still have your awesome fur hat, and it’s being worn right now in your honour, despite it being extremely warm outside. LOL

    [quote comment=”387807″]”Happy Birthday to you,
    Happy Birthday to you,
    Happy Birthday…”
    link

    This is where one one yahoo keeps on singing after everyone else has stopped.
    “How oh-old are you…?”[/quote]

    Enjoy the next four years, Roberto, because the following year when people sing “How old are you now?” You know at least a few people will reply, “You’re 45, rpm.”

    That’s assuming those of us slightly older folks who remember what a 45 record is will be around to say it…

    [quote comment=”387787″]sorry, woke up a bit, um hungover lamenting the 40 last night and had to race to mail off some stirrups this morning, and buy a friend who moved down south some giardiniera to mail him as well. and when i got home, i was overwhelmed. anyway, paul, phil thank you, and everyone else too, this is an outstanding community. i am not normally a big birthday celebrator, but all the kind words, i am practically in tears here, seriously. can this captain random post dirtbag share a random story?

    i didn’t ask for the night off because i have not been working much with the transition from basketball to football, so last week i checked my schedule to see what fate the corn mother would bestow on her least favourite son. would it be naked kickball betwixt the swedish bikini team and the hawaiian tropics calendar girls? um, no, it’s basketball, but not just any league, i am in chicago’s gold coast, and this league has a team, THE team, a porn star team. apparently some interweb porn stars thought it would be fun to play basketball. the bang bros’ cornerstone is anchored by a young ron jeremy type who wears short shorts, and quite literally plays balls out defense. the rest of the team is the biggest batch of greasy tattooed swarmy characters that you ever did see, and uber aggressive. i can not tell you how disconcerting and horrific this team is, it is the disaster of all disasters. anyway, happy birthday to me, thanks corn mother. if i can do it without anyone noticing, i’ll get a pixture of this horror show.

    okay, end story, thanks again everybody, you totally made my day.[/quote]
    A snapshot of that would be the gift that keeps on giving. I have no idea how to take your threat. :)

    [quote comment=”387797″]Powder blue also looks good on fire trucks close to UNC’s campus.

    link
    Oh NOOOOO… not another Uniwatch fire truck tangent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    They offered her special wicking material in order to run, but Sister Mary Beth said no, thanks, I’ll wear my black woolen habit.
    link

    She does have a pair of orange-accented Nikes, though.

    [quote comment=”387815″]They offered her special wicking material in order to run, but Sister Mary Beth said no, thanks, I’ll wear my black woolen habit.
    link

    She does have a pair of orange-accented Nikes, though.[/quote]

    JUST DO IT.
    (But go to Confession afterward, of course)

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”387814″][quote comment=”387797″]Powder blue also looks good on fire trucks close to UNC’s campus.

    link
    Oh NOOOOO… not another Uniwatch fire truck tangent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

    link

    [quote comment=”387817″][quote comment=”387814″][quote comment=”387797″]Powder blue also looks good on fire trucks close to UNC’s campus.

    link
    Oh NOOOOO… not another Uniwatch fire truck tangent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

    link
    Oh wow… i think I had that book at one time.

    re: BEARS THROWBACKS.

    Interesting when the original is side by side with the quick n’ dirty MS paint version I did last night…
    link

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”387804″][quote comment=”387800″]I’ve said this before about the Blue Jays powder blue jerseys.

    Yes, they’re wrong. They were never worn at home.[/quote]

    geeman beat me to it, but what’s wrong with going back to those unis?

    the whites at home, the blues on the road

    /done and done…and dump that black alt in lake ontario, where it belongs[/quote]

    That was my suggestion last fall in the “suggested tweaks” column and you thought I was kidding!!!

    [quote comment=”387817″][quote comment=”387814″][quote comment=”387797″]Powder blue also looks good on fire trucks close to UNC’s campus.

    link
    Oh NOOOOO… not another Uniwatch fire truck tangent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

    link

    i had that book

    course…i also had this one and this one

    Re: The Timber Rattlers pink Rainbow Guts uniform.

    It looks like the same illustration used for last year’s promotion with the West Michigan Whitecaps. However, the West Michigan uniforms turned out to look much different from what was drawn up — makes me wonder if the UltraStripe pattern is patented by Majestic?

    Will see if the Rattlers’ jersey turns out the same or if it uses the Astros’ nine-stripe pattern.

    [quote comment=”387823″]link…[/quote]

    stopped by the lark on the way back, good jazz, but the company wasn’t as good.

    Mid-life is only a crisis to those who think their life is already half over.

    It is great to those who know their life has only half begun.

    [quote comment=”387825″]Mid-life is only a crisis to those who think their life is already half over.

    It is great to those who know their life has only half begun.[/quote]

    Brillantly said, Brother.

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