By Phil Hecken
Several weeks ago, in conjunction with Alain Nana-Sinkam, Prexy of Classic Old School Gear, I hosted another “Design a Uniform” contest, this one to Design An NFL Jersey, with the winner receiving a custom-made jersey from Classic Old School Gear. More entries than ever poured in, 69 of them in total, and today we’re going to look at the first batch of those entries. The rules were somewhat simple: design a jersey for one team, and describe, in 50 words or less, that jersey.
MOST of the submitters adhered to those rules, and since we allowed home and away jerseys, several readers submitted both (along with entire uniforms, although only the jersey will be considered for the contest). After consultation with Alain, the contest will work this way: All the jerseys will be presented to the readers, at which time comments on those submissions will be requested. Alain, myself, and a crack staff of UW judges will then narrow the field down to the top 11 (since a football squad is eleven men) jerseys. Once we have those 11, we’ll put them to a vote by the UW readership. The winner, as determined by you, the readers, will receive a custom made jersey. OK? OK!
Let’s get it started.
Craig Ackers: Dallas Cowboys
A simlification of a classic, nay, iconic design. One white, one grey one blue. Why would “America’s Team” need anymore?
If my design was still being worn 100 years from now would it still be as relevant and classy as it is now. Yes is the definitive answer.
In the year 2110 and someone saw my uniform would they know it was the Cowboys, yes hey would, No explanation is needed.
Jesse Alkire: Kansas City Chiefs
My re-design on the left, the 2009 uniform on the right.
I thinned up the stripes on the socks and sleeves, dropped the pants stripes, removed the yellow outline on the numbers and black outline on the arrowhead logo, and moved the TV numbers to the shoulders, all while keeping the traditional minimalist style of the Chiefs
St. Louis Rams. Current blue and gold colors. The white numbers, shoulder stripe, neck and arm collars of the home make for a cleaner look. Added gold stripes to the home socks. For the away uniform, removed the blue sleeves, replaced them with white and added white stripes to the socks. (Check out the sweet helmet, too!)
Art Aranzazu: Oakland Raiders (plus alt)
Can’t make too many changes to a classic uni: Changed number color and added outline. Added double lines to side of jersey. changed color combo of tights stripes. Changed color to road tights. Changed color of NOB. Added alternate color choice of silver/gray. Tweeked logo a little.
John Baranowski: New England Patriots
I created a Patriots fauxback to either replace their lame gray/silver third jersey. This integrates red into the normal set. Pat Patriot, a chest patch here, might be the best logo in sports, but on the helmets, he’d have to charge outward, not forward with the player. This fixes that.
Joshua Bennett: New England Patriots
This is Joshua Bennett. I decided to tweak the Patriots. I’ve always liked their old jerseys, but wondered what it would look like in blue, so i did a blue version, and a alternate red version with my masterful Microsoft Paint skills. The tweaks are brighter colors, the collar color, and the sleeve trim. Thanks Phil!
(NOTE: the numbers look different on the blue unintentionally because i accidently colored over a number and couldnt undo it, so i tried a quick fix)
Adam Bertucci: Cleveland Browns (also, side & rear home; side, & rear road)
I used the Brown’s classic stripe pattern; however I decided to move them to the shoulders to make it feel more modern while not changing too radically. I also used the Brown’s old secondary logo on their helmet because I thought the helmet was too boring.
David Bloomquist: Seattle Seahawks
I have been a Seahawks fan since their inception. So here is my proposal. The better elements of the new jersey are retained with all of the great 1983 features added.
1. The large wrap around sleeve logo replaces the tiny one in the current set; 2. The green is limited to the eye on the logo. Silver is brought back as the main secondary color (and helmet color); 3. The crap blue is replaced with the 1983 royal blue; 4. The piping on the pants reflects the logo. If only wishes could come true!
Brandon Bowker: Philadelphia Eagles
I am pretty happy with the current uni set employed by the Philadelphia Eagles. Having said that, I thought it would be a kick to design a new Iggles top. I went back to the kelly green, and applied eagle wings to the shoulders. I picture a lone eagle feather on the hip of the pants. Thanks and Cheers!
Here’s my uniform tweak for the Miami Dolphins. I combined classic Dolphins jersey elements (lighter shade of aqua, striped socks, gray facemask) with a modern feature, the solid-colored shoulder yoke. Had so much fun with that feature that I even created an orange alternate, and I happen to hate the current ones. :)
Two images: first is the uniform set proposal, and the second merely compares my proposal to the current set.
Thanks for all you do for the Uni Watch Blog–keep up the fantastic work!
Rocky Canonica: Philadelphia Eagles
This is the first time that I have ever tried to design a uniform of any kind but I figured it was worth a shot. Most people in Philly (as you probably know) wish the Eagles would go back to their traditional color scheme of kelly green and silver. I tried to include details from past uniforms with the sleeve stripes while modernizing the design with the number font and color nameplate (similar to the Flyers design). Hope you like it.
Walker Carlson: Washington Redskins
I’ve tweaked the Redskins’ uni.
· Darkened the burgundy
· Changed to gold pants and collar
· Added triple stripes on sleeves and socks
· Helmet: Changed the stripes to a burgundy-tipped white feather outlined in gold. Based on a helmet they wore from 1959-1964. Added the arrow as a combination of two previous helmets.
James Comfort: New Orleans Saints
I tweaked Saints uni’s because gold/black is my favorite combination.
I love the old school, college football feel of uniforms with just two
colors, and I wish more NFL teams would adopt styles like it. The
stripes also work with either regular cut or new Reebok cut jerseys.
Tony Crespo: Cleveland Browns (also alt)
Since i dont have any artistic ability what so ever, I had to kinda cheat and use EA’s “Teambuilder” for NCAA Football 10.
1st photo (HOME): As you can see i did not do a radical overhaul, I just improved apon what I think is one of the best looking Unis in all of the NFL. What I did do was take out all the pure white in the uni and sub it out for an off white. I also added an orange outline around the number.
2nd photo (AWAY): I wanted to keep with the off white look, but the site forced me in to making the Unis the pure white instead of the off white.
3rd photo (ALT): I debated if I wanted to do an alt uni at all.
Zach Crites: Buffalo Bills (also helmet)
Changed the Bills helmet to white with red facemask and no stripe on the buffalo. The jersey incorporates colors and similar design of the 90’s, getting rid of the navy blue while keeping the thick red stripe on the side, trying to make it feel retro yet modern and original.
Joe Csikos: New York Giants
Here is my shot at an NFL uni tweak. I have always liked the simplicity of the NY Giants unis; however the home blue has just bothered me as too simplistic. I added some red contrast around the numbers and to the collar. I think this still keeps the simple and classic look the Giants have but adds some visual interest.
Scott Davis: New England Patriots
For the Uni-Tweak contest, I decided to expand on the enormously popular Legacy jerseys from this season. I took the colors from the classic Patriots jersey and recolored the current jersey with those colors. You’ll also notice that the “Flying Elvises” on the sleeves and helmet now has skin color.
Dave Delisle: Cincinnati Bengals
I chose the Bengals because they are in dire need of a change, as they look like something straight out of the Flintstones. The tiger stripes can stay– but only on the helmet. Design inspiration courtesy of the St Louis Blues. Striping is meant to invoke the Bengals logo.
Dave Ebert: Chicago Bears
I’m Tweaking the Bears 1960’s uniforms. The idea was to eliminate white striping on all elements. (Shirt sleeves, pants and helmet. Oh, and of course a grey face mask). I love the way the orange looks, right up against the navy. I’d Love to see a 3d version (for Free)
Todd Eizikowitz: New York Giants
I think the Giants really can use a complete uniform overhaul. I’ve always hated their gray pants. I always felt The Giants should have blue pants for their road uniforms. My design has a feel for The Giants uniforms from 1975 with incorporating an altered Giants logo into the striping on one of the sleeves and on both of the pant legs. I also went with a deeper blue instead of the more royal blue that Big Blue are using now.
Daniel Finocchio: Miami Dolphins
My concept for this Miami Dolphins away tweak reflects my love for clean, concise, modern uniform design. The design harkens back to a retro style with its simplicity and color palatte, but also has a very modern appeal.
Mike Forman: Philadelphia Eagles
Here’s how I would prefer my beloved Eagles to look. First and foremost, I removed the black and replaced it with gray. I also tried to keep a clean look overall. Hope you enjoy. Thanks.
Michael Fullmer: San Francisco 49ers
Here is my entry. Thanks!
Kevin Gaffney: Baltimore Ravens
The Ravens get wings. All bird teams were candidates but the Ravens already have a great bird logo that I took the wing from. It looks much better on the photo (obvi). The mock-up is inconsistent and bad, the wing would ideally be a shoulder yoke.
Remember Deacon Jones’ Rams of the 60’s and 70’s? They used to look basic and clean like the Penn State. My revision gets them back to basics while keeping a modern and unique look. Changing the gold to silver… the old Rams (look) is back!
Clint Glaze: San Diego Chargers
The Chargers already have a great mix of modern and traditional elements, so my tweak is basically to swap out the “athletic” gold (i.e. yellow) with a timeless “South Bend” or true metallic gold. I also removed the distracting contrasting inserts on the shoulders (and pants) for a cleaner look.
Julian Grant: Jacksonville Jaguars
Ladies and gentlemen… presenting the new Jacksonville Jaguars. I made a couple of tweaks to my earlier concept and put it into true “concept” format. I’ve re-inserted gold, put in a nice, simple stripe, and a helmet logo harking back to the prototype days. Hope you enjoy!
Andrew Greenwood: Jacksonville Jaguars
The jersey itself in this one is pretty simple, but I like it better than the Bills revision I sent in before. I got rid of the Jaguars teal (annoying to say the least) and replaced it with a deep brown, tan/sand, and orange combination. Sorta Saints and sorta Browns I’ve been told, somewhere in the middle. I really like the orange facemask and wish I could have worked in some yellow/gold too, but it seemed like three colors was already enough for it.
Michael Hass: Arizona Cardinals
My entry is for the Arizona Cardinals. I took the cardinal and white color palette and added black for a more intimidating look, and sand-colored accents to introduce a desert theme. ‘Feathery’ stripes on the shoulders make the uniform more unique, and hopefully more contemporary as well.
James Hayden: Washington Redskins
Basically, I’m returning the Redskins to the darker burgundy color they wore prior to 1969 with a very heavy influence of the throwbacks they wore during the 1994 (NFL 75th) season. In addition, I’m keeping the “gold/yellow” they allegedly use (although they sometimes use too light of a shade – closer to the Packers yellow than the Steelers yellow they should use) with “old gold” as a trim/shadow effect color, and am omitting any sleeve stripes – since modern stripes look silly anyway. I’ve also adopted the helmet logo from 1982 (the “tucked-in feathers” logo) as their sleeve patch and moved the TV numbers up on top of the shoulder.
“Hungry Hungry Hipster”: Arizona Cardinals
My NFL Jersey tweak is for the Arizona Cardinals. I based my designs on the Arizona state flag.
Returning the Broncos to their rightful identity while keeping the sleeves “primarily” blue for those who will miss the “Broncos blues”. This uniform is the blending of the traditional Broncos feel with the current Broncos look. Removing all traces of the Nike hidden logos.
Unique feature: addition of TV numbers on pant stripe.
Christopher Kane: Philadelphia Eagles (also home side & road side)
First up: Dumped the black almost entirely in favor of white or silver/gray more “classic” Eagles look. I changed the black collar and arm cuffs from black to white (big improvement IMHO). Vise versa for the whites. Minor piping on front ONLY (thats why i didn’t include back view –no change)
Joe Katz: Buffalo Bills
Anyway, I decided to take the Bills uni (widely regarded as the worst in the NFL) and change it up a little. The color scheme is creative (to say the least). I kept the same helmet, just eliminating the triple stripe (and of course the colors). The only other thing is the side panels… Hope you guys like it.
I decided the NFL needed to have a military stylized team. The Jets were a perfect choice. I updated their green to a military green and actually included a Jet in the uniforms. Including a new over the top helmet design logo featuring the F-22 Raptor. Thank you.
OK, folks, there’s the first 35 entries. We’ll take a look at the final 34 next weekend. What we need from you, now, is to talk up the submissions — let us know which ones you like — because we’ll definitely take those comments into consideration once we begin narrowing the field down for a vote. Love it? Hate it? Think it’s just about perfect? Let’s hear from you!
Special feature today, which we’ll dub, “From The Taxman Collection:” Reader Jerry Adams, who posts as “Taxman” (and who’s pretty busy these days) has a neat little collection of photos received as a promotional prize for saving Coke caps or Kool-aid packs or something like that in about 1967. Today, he’s sharing them with us:
While searching in the basement for some old football programs, I rediscovered a set of wonderful 5×7 glossy MLB photos. These were issued around 1967, and I am pretty certain I received the set as a promotional prize. My best recollection would be that we collected Coca-Cola bottle caps with player pictures in the liners — unless it was sending in cereal box tops or maybe even Kool-Aid packages. The back side of each photo referenced Dexter Press. Maybe our friends at the Fleer Sticker project would have a clue?
I was 8 years old and an Orioles fan watching games in black and white, so to see these All Stars in vivid color was a thrill. These glossies were of a much higher quality than any baseball cards put out at the time. What is apparent to me is that the twilight of the “flannel era” provided us with some great baseball eye candy. Indulge yourself in the rich texture of the gray roadies of the Giants and the Orioles; the buttons, the ripples in the seams that you never see with double-knits; the iconic beauty of the Red Sox, Yankees and Tigers’ timeless designs ”“ that seem even classier still in the fabrics of the sixties. The set of twelve included eight eventual Hall Of Famers and a pair of perennial all stars a full notch below (Torre and Santo). I have eleven in this gallery and I believe the one I am missing is Willie Davis of the Dodgers, who along with Joe Pepitone would appear to be out of his class here.
One oddity ”“ Roberto Clemente’s hat. Has anyone seen a big league hat logo with this type of application?
Thanks for sharing that neat little set Jerry. Looks like Brooksie’s jersey, ahem…shrank a bit over the winter, eh? And I love the Cubs iconic logo with the thin blue outline (which is considerably different from the one they sport today) on Santo. If you click on the full gallery, Jerry provides some keen insights with each card.
Can one of you fine readers help him complete this collection? Willie Davis, anyone?
After taking on the ladies and the men yesterday, our man on the street, Jim “I’d Wear Every One of These” Vilk returns today to give us his expert opinion of the Men’s Figure Skating costumes from this past week…did I mention that Jim doesn’t like Men In Black?
Here’s Jim:
MENS SHORT PROGRAM
Honorable Mention to the very few men who avoided the mostly black look. Thank you for a little variety.
5. Brian Joubert, France: I don’t know why, but I like this one.
4. Michal Brezina, Czech Republic: If this skating thing doesn’t work out, he’d make a fine-looking magician.
Bronze: Denis Ten, Kazakhstan: Playful and colorful without going over the top.
Silver: Jeremy Abbot, USA: Classic…just classic.
Gold: Takahiko Kozuka, Japan: I’d almost wear that…if I was almost hip enough.
“Don’t come near my podium with that”: Johnny Weir, USA: Had some competition from Kevin van der Perren of Belgium, also known as Mr. Osteoporosis.
MENS FREE SKATE
5. Evgeni Plushenko, Russia: Looks like a tap dancer, no?
4. Tomas Verner, Czech Republic: The striped pants were almost too much, but I still liked the look.
Bronze: Jeremy Abbot, USA: Another solid outfit from the American.
Silver: Nobunari Oda, Japan: Table for two? One moment, please, while I pick up this silver medal from Uni Watch.
Gold: Javier Fernandez, Spain: Give him a sword and let him do some swashbuckling.
“Don’t come near my podium with that”: Florent Amodio, France: Again, there was competition from Kevin van der Perren of Belgium (guy can’t win for losing), but the face paint sealed the deal for the Frenchman.
Please bring on the ladies now…
Thanks, Jim, I think…question is — would you wear this?
Guess The Game From The Scoreboard: Back with another guest scoreboard again today, from Chris Rocco, who, if you’ve been playing along the past few Sunday’s, you’ll know has a love for a certain stadium. Today is no exception. Guess The Game From The Scoreboard. Date, location and final score, please, and be sure to link to your answer. And, as always, if you enjoy the game, please send me some new scoreboards! Drop me a line. Thanks!
Back again with more Uniform Tweaks, Concepts and Revisions today. Today, because of the NFL Uni Contest, we’ll be featuring a triple-header of baseball tweaks.
Leading off today is Adam Wood, who’s regaling us with a “new” team from Connecticut:
I read an article today by Peter Gammons, which of course means take it with a huge grain of salt. In a nutshell it says that Tampa Bay is considering moving to New Jersey or Connecticut for revenue reasons. I got to thinking about what they would look like if they did indeed moved. So of course, I had to throw a real quick redesign together. First I decided on Connecticut for their location, then I renamed them a semi odd name. “The Arsenal of Connecticut.” This is because I was looking for something in the state’s history that sounded kind of tough and wasn’t a bird. Back when New Haven and most of Connecticut made a ton of military weapons and aircraft they got the nickname, “The Arsenal of America.” The colors were all taken from the Connecticut state flag. I left out green because green and gold is too A’s esk, plus four colors is overdoing it for me. As for a logo, I didn’t have time to come up with one, but I was thinking of an old battleship of some sort. Someone get on that lol.
-Addam
Our next set of baseball tweaks comes from Marshall Offutt, who has some ideas for the Marlins:
So I had this idea a little while back to tweak the Marlins the way I feel they should have originally been done. My pictures are nothing more than updated colors, however. With these pictures just pretend that the ”˜F’ is an ”˜M’, and that ”˜FLORIDA’ says ”˜MIAMI’.
The main changes include ditching the black, and adopting a darker version of the teal. We are also keeping some of the silver, but adding the orange that Jeffery Loria has already been slowly integrating into the baseball team.
So here they are. (home, road, and alternate.) It really wasn’t much when you consider what all I changed, but damn if that orange doesn’t make the ”˜Marlins’ pop out on the home set.
Enjoy,
Marshall
Next up is Jason Whitt, who has some changes for the Cleveland Native Americans:
Phil-
I really enjoy all of the uni tweaks and was glad to see that you opened it up to other sports. I decided to tweak the Cleveland Indians with a few old-school touches and without the superflous white layer on the numbers and letters.
Here’s the home version with the old sock pattern and a new blue & red “I” hat.
For the road version, I brought back the 1948 block print and the current fauxback hat.
Thanks for sharing everybody’s work!
Jason Whitt
That’s all for today. Hope you enjoyed a look ahead at the greatest sport ever invented. But feel free to keep sending tweaks for all the sports. Drop me a line.
OK, everyone, our work here is done. Don’t forget to let the uniform designers know what you think of their efforts. Your comments will definitely hold sway over the crack panel of Uni Watch judges who will be narrowing down the designs to a final eleven, and upon which the UW readership will soon be voting.
Have a great Sunday — keep your brooms on the sheet, and your rocks in the house, eh?
The Saints home uni redesign wins
Well done on the tweaks, really enjoyed them. Where is the Gammons article located? It will never happen moving the Rays up north, but liked the Arsenal design.
I like the Broncos uniform! Very cool design without being too wild. I would LOVE to see the Broncos run on the field in orange. I like their current alt jerseys (orange) over the blue jerseys (doesn’t doesn’t feel like the Broncos in blue to me)… But something about the Broncos alt unifrom doesn’t feel totally right for me. I guess I’m just tired of the wierd stripe down the side. GOOD JOB BOB! I hope you win! GO BRONCOS!
FAVORITES/
– The simple tweaks Jesse Alkire made to the Chiefs uniform gives the design a totally different feel.
– Anyone who can get the Cowboys to simply match their silvers and get rid of those blueish pants should get “Designer of the Century” like Craig Ackers.
– Adding off-white to the Browns uniform is a great and unique idea by Tony Crespo. Having three neutral colors (off-white, brown, white) in one uniform set is really interesting and it works.
– I really like James Comfort’s simplification of the Saints uniform. It comes off as both modern and retro.
– I am among the few who really like the Seahawks uniforms. The odd colors are very much a Seattle thing and the flow of the uniforms are well designed. If they are going to get tweaked though David Bloomquists version makes a lot of sense in bridging the current and the historic.
– The Redskins throwback uniform is more unique than their current set so I like Walker Carlson’s re-do.
Definitely some interesting concepts. Hard to pick a favorite… I really like Todd’s Giants revision, except that it wouldn’t actually work with today’s nearly sleeveless jerseys. The Seahawks with the silver and different shade of blue is high on my list as well.
I’m also going to vote to disqualify the Cowboys tweak because it’s too obvious. (No offense intended to Mr Ackers) But it’s not a tweak, it’s simply what the Cowboys would look like if their owner wasn’t a stubborn colorblind idjit.
My favorite is Daniel Finocchio’s Miami Dolphins tweak. Clean and modern.
Favs for me are:
The Saints Jersey and the Broncos Jersey & the 60’s-70’s Rams jersey. Those three actually look like they could be real NFL uniforms.
Least fav for me:
That last Bills jersey looks like a Care-Bear exploded. The Chiefs and 1st-Jags jersey look pretty much the same as they do now. And all the Patriots jerseys. I’m a Pat fan, so the current jersey suit me just fine.
I really like Daniel Finocchio’s design best out of all of them featured today. I think he hit the whole purpose of the redesign contest on the mark. Why submit a jersey with just minor tweaks that you can’t really tell apart from their current ones when the winner will be made into an actual jersey? Even though some of the overhauls are outlandish (the orange and green Bills for example) I applaud everyone who came up with a completely new jersey.
Also my runner up is Kevin Gaffney’s Ravens jersey. He pulled off the wing concept on the black jersey better than any other.
WHAT THE HELL JOE KATZ!! What where you smoking dude?? Oddly enough, that uniform makes the Bills look a tat bit better than they do now. What’s that say about the Bills crap uiforms.
OK,OK
The Good–
David Bloomquist: Seattle Seahawks
James Comfort: New Orleans Saints
Dave Delisle: Cincinnati Bengals
Kevin Gaffney: Baltimore Ravens
Bob Jones: Denver Broncos
The Bad–
Oh Joe — LOL!
Jesse Alkire: Kansas City Chiefs (is there a tweak?)
Dave Ebert: Chicago Bears (is there a tweak?)
Daniel Finocchio: Miami Dolphins (dude, you put a penis on the jersey)
“Hungry Hungry Hipster”: Arizona Cardinals
The Pirates used that cheesy patch logo on their hats routinely back in the 60s. As a kid I saw it on most of the baseball cards we picked up of Pirate players. I remember how much we mocked the organization for those ‘patch hats’.
Santo a full notch below Brooks Robinson? Maybe in the minds of Hall of Fame voters, but Santo certainly deserve a plaque in Cooperstown every bit as much.
I really like the Broncos home jersey by Bob Jones, but I’m not sure about the away jersey. The orange doesn’t fit well on the away jersey.
I also like the Browns logo on the Browns helmet by Adam Bertucci. I didn’t even know they had a logo. But the jersey looks so much like the jersey they have now.
OMG, I love you James Comfort! PERFECT. I want one and I want it now. Saints for the WIN!
Oh, the Ravens were cool, too. Good job Kevin Gaffney.
[quote comment=”378777″]The Pirates used that cheesy patch logo on their hats routinely back in the 60s. As a kid I saw it on most of the baseball cards we picked up of Pirate players. I remember how much we mocked the organization for those ‘patch hats’.[/quote]
I’ll have to go back into my own Topps collection to get a better look at the hats. I have a lot of Prates cards from ’63 to ’70. Thanks.
I liked:
Rocky’s Eagles
David’s Seahawks
James’s Saints
Zach’s Bills
I disliked all the tweaks with the wings. I don’t like it Oregon and I don’t want it in the NFL. Also I was not a fan of the Jets tweak.
I will say thanks to everyone for taking the time to do these, while I might not like all the tweaks I appreciate the time spent on doing them. That is what makes this a great site, so many people that are passionate about uniforms.
[quote comment=”378778″]Santo a full notch below Brooks Robinson? Maybe in the minds of Hall of Fame voters, but Santo certainly deserve a plaque in Cooperstown every bit as much.[/quote]
As a guy who worshipped Brooksie, I will admit that Santo is HOF worthy. Brooks bronzed his plaque in one week in October of 1970, and if Santo had even a chance to shine in a big spotlight like that, the voters might see their way to vote him in.
Back to the uni’s – does that Santo pinstripe look any bluer than the Twins or Yankees? Looks like a standard navy or black to me.
My top 3 from the first list of uni-redesigns:
1. Mike Forman’s Eagles concept
2. Daniel Finocchio’s Dolphins concept
3. Todd Eizikowitz’s Giants concept
Ok, most of these look like terrible Arena League or NFL Europe uniforms, but with a few exceptions:
1. Saints, James Comfort – Beautiful. Far and away my clear favorite. I could see this set on an NFL field next season.
2. Cowboys, Craig Ackers – A commenter said it was too obvious. Well, that may be true… but he’s the only one so far who did it.
3. Bills, Zach Crites – Very, very nice.
4. Redskins, Walker Carlson – Not crazy about the helmet design, but overall very impressed.
Contest aside, I really like that KC idea. I’ve always been a fan of striped sleeves/striped socks paired with unstriped helmets and pants. Change the black trim on the helmet logo to yellow, and you have something flawless.
MLB in Connecticut will never happen. First, there’s only 3.5 million people total here, and the largest city is just a tick over 135,000 population-wise. (In other words, much smaller than the Tampa Bay area). Not to mention the Yankees and Red Sox each within two hours’ drive.
I don’t know what Gammo was on when he wrote that, but it must have been some good stuff.
I guess I don’t feel the same as everyone else when it comes to the Saints tweak. They look way too much like Army for me. See: link
Gil Garcia and his fantastic Ram design get my full endorsement.
It’s beautiful, simple, and features an all white road uniform.
Gold Medal: James Comfort, Saints
Silver Medal: Clint Glaze, Chargers
Bronze Medal: Dave Delisle, Bengals
could someone mock up a red usa hockey alternate?
Scoreboard is from Saturday September 6, 1958: Washington Senators — 8 @ NY Yankees — 3 (Yankee Stadium) The “walking man” Eddie Yost hit a first inning lead-off home run off Art Ditmar!
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5 Best and 1 Worst…
THE BEST
5. Dave Delisle, Bengals- I really like the away jersey.
4. Craig Ackers, Cowboys- If only.
3. Zach Crites, Bills- Such a no brainer.
2. James Comfort, Saints- Would have liked to see them win the Super Bowl in these.
1. Kevin Gaffney, Ravens- Would they look as cool in real life? Probably not. But I gotta say… I just like ’em.
THE WORST
1. Tie. Todd Eizikowitz, Giants & Joe Katz, Bills – Oi vey. That’s all that needs to be said.
Who better to design the Eagles new uniforms than a guy named Rocky. I absolutely LOVE his design bringing back the kelly green and silver and older eagle logo. The stripes are great too. I wish I could see my Birds wearing these uniforms as soon as next season. Hey Jeff Lurie sign this guy up and get working on these uniforms now!
The best tweak is the orange tongue on the Jaguar helmet. The color scheme change works best for the black jerseys, but the others have too much of the gold for my liking.
I also kind of like the Seahawks one, but I’m not sure about two different blues at the same time again.
Bottom line: #1 jersey should be Alkire’s Chiefs.
The Arsenal of Connecticut? I give you points for creativity.
However, there is a U.S.-registered trademark for “Arsenal” in sports (though, yes, it’s soccer).
Now, I don’t like the chances, either, that a team will move to CT. I think northern NJ has a better chance (though the Nets and Devils do not exactly draw). I will let everyone else make the jokes about a team’s name in Northern NJ.
My favorite is definitely Julian’s Jaguars concept. Clean, crisp, nice integration of gold; perfect for the Jags. Bob Jones’ Broncos concept is nice too, and I like Kevin Gaffney’s Ravens idea; creative, to say the least.
I love Todd Eizikowitz’s Giants uniform. It’s by far my favorite of those entries. I’m one of the few who really, really doesn’t like the Giants’ current uniform (plain blue top + plain gray pants = Little League baseball).
No offense to anyone who this applies to, but I really don’t hope any of the minor tweaks win the contest. They look great, certainly, but is that really the spirit of the contest?
I got to give a shout out for the last Jets design – very outside the box!!! Maybe the military green with a little camo thrown in for an alt jersey???
90 percent of the proposals I always scream ‘NNOOOOO!!!!’ at, I admire the try at the Bills’ ‘Hurricanes’ look, but swing and a miss. I’m sure whoever created the various Sabres uniforms through the years will find a way to make the Bills look even worse…
I really like the Dolphins tweak by Finocchio. The numbers were especially interesting; I never really liked the heavy shadowing before, but the way he put a little separation between the number and the shadow looks great. The Florida state patch gives it character and the whole design seems to embody the whole ‘Miami feel.’ Very cool.
Ok, I’ve got to say, there were some really good uni designs here in this first set. Nice job to all. However, I am going to call out the ones I thought were most unique, and that I liked concept wise.
1) Todd Eizikowitz: New York Giants
Those pants are totally badass, with the NY striping. Great modern take on a 70s type design.
2) Kevin Gaffney: Baltimore Ravens
Simply, I love the wings. Using the wings based off their first primary logo, on the shoulders, is brilliant.
3) James Hayden: Washington Redskins
I like this concept, however, I would like to see this developed a little more using better templates.
Daniel Finocchio’s Dolphins tweak was my favorite so far. He really keeps it current without throwing a lot of bumper stickers on it. I also really liked the Ravens tweak.
my top 3:
walker carlson’s redskins tweak is very nice. I love the helmet.
james comfort’s saints
rocky’s eagles
james’ saints and gil’s rams. both very awesome. dftba.
[quote comment=”378797″]My favorite is definitely Julian’s Jaguars concept.[/quote]
So you’re a big link, eh?
nice post today with the 30th an of lake placid i remember some minor league hockey teams going with usa jerseys, had an idea what if you could get the opposing team to dawn the cccp jersey, anywways just wondering if any teams have done that. also go usa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best Tweaks:
-Bowman’s Dolphins
-Crites’ Bills
-Delisle’s Bengals
-Gaffney’s Ravens
-Hass’ Cardinals
(But black would KILL players in the Arizona heat)
-Jones’ Broncos
U-G-L-Y Tweaks
-Joe’s Bills
-Koth’s Jets
-Hipster’s Cardinals
-Hayden’s Redskins
-Greenwood’s Jaguars
-Finocchio’s Dolphins
-Davis’ Patriots
-Carlson’s Redskins
-Canonica’s Eagles
-Bloomquist’s Seahawks (color just too purpleish)
-Bennett’s Patriots
-Baranowski’s Patriots
-Eizikowitz’s Giants
Boring Tweaks
-Amaya’s Rams
-Aranzazu’s Raiders
-Csikos’ Giants
-Forman’s Eagles
-Fullmer’s 49ers
-Glaze’s Chargers
-Kane’s Eagles
Did ya do anything?? They look the same!
-Ackers’ Cowboys
-Alkire’s Chiefs
-Bertucci’s Browns
-Crespo’s Browns
-Ebert’s Bears
The EA Sports Team Builders!
You guy didn’t design these. EA SPORTS DID!
-Bertucci’s Browns
-Crespo’s Browns
-Ebert’s Bears
-Comfort’s Saints
Five and One
5. Brandon Bowker’s Eagles.
4. James Comfort’s Saints.
3. David Bloomquist’s Seahawks.
2. Hungry Hungry Hipster’s Cards.
1. Bob Jones’ Bronx.
Don’t get near my TV with that! Tie between Finocchio’s Fish (seasickness anyone?) and Katz’ Bills.
James Comfort’s Saints FTW.
[quote comment=”378802″]
3) James Hayden: Washington Redskins
I like this concept, however, I would like to see this developed a little more using better templates.[/quote]
Just because I truly have nothing better to do at the moment… and I had paintshop open… here’s my re-interpretation of his design on a hopefully better template. Wasn’t really sure on his number font so I just used regular block numbers, and I took a guess on the helmet since he didn’t show one.
link
Favorite: I’m not usually a fan of shoulder yokes, but I love HHH’s Cardinals look. It’s always annoyed me that the team’s color reflect absolutely nothing from the Phoenix region. I also have to say that Bowman’s Dolphins were quite nice; I would change their colors entirely, but if they insist on keeping them, that’s the way to go.
Least favorite: I’m not sure this has anything to do with my own hurt feelings, but Koth’s Jets mock-up was absolutely terrible. If my Jets ever went with ANY military jersey, I would drop them like a bad habit. And if they took his, I would be forced to move across the country, possibly the world, just to avoid having to burn my retinas seeing that on the streets of Brooklyn.
[quote comment=”378808″]
The EA Sports Team Builders!
You guy didn’t design these. EA SPORTS DID!
-Bertucci’s Browns
-Crespo’s Browns
-Ebert’s Bears
-Comfort’s Saints[/quote]
Dude, don’t bash the teambuilder people. That thing actually has a large variety of options built into it. It’s a lot easier to punch in what you want on there than it might be to find a decent template and make your own, especially if you only have MSpaint or if your idea uses a fairly standard striping pattern.
[quote comment=”378796″]The Arsenal of Connecticut? I give you points for creativity.
However, there is a U.S.-registered trademark for “Arsenal” in sports (though, yes, it’s soccer).
Now, I don’t like the chances, either, that a team will move to CT. I think northern NJ has a better chance (though the Nets and Devils do not exactly draw). I will let everyone else make the jokes about a team’s name in Northern NJ.[/quote]
I don’t recommend the “Snookies”.
As a reminder to my fellow Curling addicts, NBC will be live streaming todays matches at link
I will be torn between my support for the US Women’s team, and my (mildly pathetic)”schoolboy” crush of Canada’s Cheryl Bernard.
All of the Hockey games will also be live streaming too.
Be advised, yesterday NBC did screw the pooch and cut off the US-Sweden Men’s match just before the Swede’s match tying hammer in the 10th end, and failed to stream the game ending 11th end
John Baranowski: New England Patriots WINS ROUND ONE IF I HAD A VOTE. WELL DONE!
Am I the only person who kind of likes Joe Katz’s? I can see it as an arena league team…I kinda like it though
For the record, if anything the Redskins’ jerseys prior to 1969 were lighter, not darker.
I saw one of Vince Promuto’s game jerseys on the wall of his office when I was working on the Redskins tabloid back in ’83. The jersey was this color (and I was surprised it actually WAS as light as it had looked on some football cards)…
link
There was, I believe, a period when the ‘Skins did wear a more “maroon” jersey. Was the Cliff Battles era, and early in Sammy Baugh’s career (the time of the Indianhead logo on the sleeves)…reference the 1994 throwbacks.
So, yeah, I guess that was “prior to 1969”, but certainly not immediately prior to 1969.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”378796″]The Arsenal of Connecticut? I give you points for creativity.
However, there is a U.S.-registered trademark for “Arsenal” in sports (though, yes, it’s soccer).
Now, I don’t like the chances, either, that a team will move to CT. I think northern NJ has a better chance (though the Nets and Devils do not exactly draw). I will let everyone else make the jokes about a team’s name in Northern NJ.[/quote]
How about the “Tromaville Toxies”?
For this contest, I have to assume it’s “all or nothing.” If a redesign had a great feature and a horrid feature at the same time, I had to give it a FAIL stamp. So, sorry to Ryan Bowman: I love the universal lighter aqua and the elimination of navy, but I don’t like the Buffalo Bills’ fingerprints (the modern yoke treatment) at all.
My favorite is Bob Jones’ Broncos treatment. The template is an oldie but goodie: it looks like the NFL 75th anniversary jerseys with updated colors. It would work with modern tailoring, it keeps the helmet and socks from the Super Bowl wins, and it takes Nike out of the picture.
I’m not sold on the pants: players hate numbered pants on the hips because it’s too easy to call an offsides or false start, and without the number, it’s too Penn State. But I didn’t let the pants factor into the grade, as only jerseys are considered. (Thanks to everybody who did include pants and helmets though. Helps with context.)
[quote comment=”378817″]Am I the only person who kind of likes Joe Katz’s? I can see it as an arena league team…I kinda like it though[/quote]
I am not big on the colors and the bills across the back of the pants reminds me of those sweats and shorts the say stuff like juicy across the back.
[quote comment=”378821″][quote comment=”378817″]Am I the only person who kind of likes Joe Katz’s? I can see it as an arena league team…I kinda like it though[/quote]
I am not big on the colors and the bills across the back of the pants reminds me of those sweats and shorts the say stuff like juicy across the back.[/quote]
And if an arena team came out in those I would know Arena Football had jumped the shark.
[quote comment=”378796″]The Arsenal of Connecticut? I give you points for creativity.
However, there is a U.S.-registered trademark for “Arsenal” in sports (though, yes, it’s soccer).
Now, I don’t like the chances, either, that a team will move to CT. I think northern NJ has a better chance (though the Nets and Devils do not exactly draw). I will let everyone else make the jokes about a team’s name in Northern NJ.[/quote]
Maybe the “Dirtnaps”
[quote comment=”378823″][quote comment=”378796″]The Arsenal of Connecticut? I give you points for creativity.
However, there is a U.S.-registered trademark for “Arsenal” in sports (though, yes, it’s soccer).
Now, I don’t like the chances, either, that a team will move to CT. I think northern NJ has a better chance (though the Nets and Devils do not exactly draw). I will let everyone else make the jokes about a team’s name in Northern NJ.[/quote]
Maybe the “Dirtnaps”[/quote]
or the Wiseguys?
or the Assassins?
[quote comment=”378815″]As a reminder to my fellow Curling addicts, NBC will be live streaming todays matches at link
I will be torn between my support for the US Women’s team, and my (mildly pathetic)”schoolboy” crush of Canada’s Cheryl Bernard.
All of the Hockey games will also be live streaming too.
Be advised, yesterday NBC did screw the pooch and cut off the US-Sweden Men’s match just before the Swede’s match tying hammer in the 10th end, and failed to stream the game ending 11th end[/quote]
also…it’s live on msnbc now and the men play the scots, er…brits…at 5:00 (ET) on cnbc (which i thankfully receive in hd)
anyone see the (mens) canada/great britain match late last evening? the scots are gonna be pissed today
[quote comment=”378825″][quote comment=”378815″]As a reminder to my fellow Curling addicts, NBC will be live streaming todays matches at link
I will be torn between my support for the US Women’s team, and my (mildly pathetic)”schoolboy” crush of Canada’s Cheryl Bernard.
All of the Hockey games will also be live streaming too.
Be advised, yesterday NBC did screw the pooch and cut off the US-Sweden Men’s match just before the Swede’s match tying hammer in the 10th end, and failed to stream the game ending 11th end[/quote]
also…it’s live on msnbc now and the men play the scots, er…brits…at 5:00 (ET) on cnbc (which i thankfully receive in hd)
anyone see the (mens) canada/great britain match late last evening? the scots are gonna be pissed today[/quote]
I tried to stay awake for the whole thing but this sinus stuff I have been battling for two weeks got the better of me in the fourth end, when I woke up it was over. Watching US/Canada right now.
Rocky Canonica’s Eagles redesign brings back the beautiful winged helmet of old! Keep the collar the same color as the jersey, keep the word mark off, and the Eagles look great again.
Taxman—I was also 7 or 8 around the time those MLB photos came out. Thanks for sharing them. Baseball uniforms sure looked good then, didn’t they?
c’mon deb…not that i could make that shot, but seriously…that was a sure deuce
James’ Saints and Craig’s Cowboys are the best by far. And it’s not close. They’re the only sets I could see taking the field as real uniforms. All the other ones are just abstract fantasies. Fun to do, sure, but not plausible – or nice to look at.
Hugh Jorgan’s redesign of the Green Bay Packers is da bomb! Right after I saw it this morning I ran out to the paint store and got materials to redecorate my basement apartment. Mom and dad are out of town for the weekend so I’m a bit under the gun.
Any redesign of the Patriots’ uniforms should begin with replacing the “Flying Elvis” logo!
[quote comment=”378830″]Hugh Jorgan’s redesign of the Green Bay Packers is da bomb! Right after I saw it this morning I ran out to the paint store and got materials to redecorate my basement apartment. Mom and dad are out of town for the weekend so I’m a bit under the gun.[/quote]
Am I the only one stumped by this?
Phil,
How do you like Carolyn Darbyshire’s throwing broom?
I’m confused.
No one asked for a total redesign, only a jersey. So we have to assume the idea was to design one (or more) that would work with the team’s current uni.
The hypothetical situation is this: You have been asked by the GM-Coach-Owner (whoever) of Team A to design a new jersey for the team. That’s ALL you have been asked to do. As a designer, you’d be way off-base to come back to him/them with a jersey in different colors than the team colors, or didn’t work with the present design (logo, helmet, pants and socks), one that would require anything else to change.
Those are the contraints inherent in the deal.
Period.
Based on that, only five of today’s entries would even be eligible for consideration to survive this round.
Am I being a hard ass?
Yeah.
Welcome to design in the real commercial world.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”378827″] keep the word mark off, and the Eagles look great again.
[/quote]
…er, I meant LOGO off….
[quote comment=”378832″]Any redesign of the Patriots’ uniforms should begin with replacing the “Flying Elvis” logo![/quote]
hear hear
[quote comment=”378835″]I’m confused.
No one asked for a total redesign, only a jersey. So we have to assume the idea was to design one (or more) that would work with the team’s current uni.
The hypothetical situation is this: You have been asked by the GM-Coach-Owner (whoever) of Team A to design a new jersey for the team. That’s ALL you have been asked to do. As a designer, you’d be way off-base to come back to him/them with a jersey in different colors than the team colors, or didn’t work with the present design (logo, helmet, pants and socks), one that would require anything else to change.
Those are the contraints inherent in the deal.
Period.
Based on that, only five of today’s entries would even be eligible for consideration to survive this round.
Am I being a hard ass?
Yeah.
Welcome to design in the real commercial world.
—Ricko[/quote]
fortunately this is the real world of the Uni Watch “Design An NFL Jersey”, so all of the entries are eligible, since your hypothetical situation is not relevant.
[quote comment=”378796″]The Arsenal of Connecticut? I give you points for creativity.
However, there is a U.S.-registered trademark for “Arsenal” in sports (though, yes, it’s soccer).
Now, I don’t like the chances, either, that a team will move to CT. I think northern NJ has a better chance (though the Nets and Devils do not exactly draw). I will let everyone else make the jokes about a team’s name in Northern NJ.[/quote]
I’d suggest the Connecticut Cutters, in a Coast Guard sense, not a self-destructive behavior kind of way.
Also, I kind of liked the outside-the-box thinking that went into the Jets re-design. I could see that on an Arena League team.
By the way Anthony, are you the same guy who emails the Tony Kornheiser Show on a pretty regular basis?
[quote comment=”378838″][quote comment=”378835″]I’m confused.
No one asked for a total redesign, only a jersey. So we have to assume the idea was to design one (or more) that would work with the team’s current uni.
The hypothetical situation is this: You have been asked by the GM-Coach-Owner (whoever) of Team A to design a new jersey for the team. That’s ALL you have been asked to do. As a designer, you’d be way off-base to come back to him/them with a jersey in different colors than the team colors, or didn’t work with the present design (logo, helmet, pants and socks), one that would require anything else to change.
Those are the contraints inherent in the deal.
Period.
Based on that, only five of today’s entries would even be eligible for consideration to survive this round.
Am I being a hard ass?
Yeah.
Welcome to design in the real commercial world.
—Ricko[/quote]
fortunately this is the real world of the Uni Watch “Design An NFL Jersey”, so all of the entries are eligible, since your hypothetical situation is not relevant.[/quote]
No, my hypothetical situation is EXACTLY how the contest was described. Read:
“The rules were somewhat simple: design a jersey for one team, and describe, in 50 words or less, that jersey.”
—Ricko
Great jobs on those MLB tweaks! I LOVE the colors and the idea of the Arsenal of Conneticut…not so sure about those unis…
One thing I took into consideration when looking at the NFL unis was whether or not I felt people on this site would bitch if the selected design was selected as an official uniform change and had the potential to be selected in that kind of circumstance. The only uniform I decided that came close to that criteria was Kevin Gaffney’s Raven’s uniform. It kept the strong elements of that uniform(unique numbers, colors) but added something strong that fits in with what the team is all about. Plus, it is easy to picture that uniform out on the field, look good and meeting the approval of most everyone on this site.
Coming in second is Todd Eizikowitz’s New York Giants uniform….though I would have liked to have seen the logo itself unchanged throughout the whole design, since I don’t see a need for it to be stylized. THe rest of the elements fit the tream well and would be a step up from their bland, plain looking uniforms they have now(seriously, nothing to distinguish itself from a blue shirt with some white numbers on it). I’m eager to see what’s in store for next week.
[quote comment=”378835″]I’m confused.
No one asked for a total redesign, only a jersey. So we have to assume the idea was to design one (or more) that would work with the team’s current uni.
The hypothetical situation is this: You have been asked by the GM-Coach-Owner (whoever) of Team A to design a new jersey for the team. That’s ALL you have been asked to do. As a designer, you’d be way off-base to come back to him/them with a jersey in different colors than the team colors, or didn’t work with the present design (logo, helmet, pants and socks), one that would require anything else to change.
Those are the contraints inherent in the deal.
Period.
Based on that, only five of today’s entries would even be eligible for consideration to survive this round.
Am I being a hard ass?
Yeah.
Welcome to design in the real commercial world.
—Ricko[/quote]
I kinda see your point, but as clarification which five do you think meet the criteria?
[quote comment=”378840″][quote comment=”378838″][quote comment=”378835″]I’m confused.
No one asked for a total redesign, only a jersey. So we have to assume the idea was to design one (or more) that would work with the team’s current uni.
The hypothetical situation is this: You have been asked by the GM-Coach-Owner (whoever) of Team A to design a new jersey for the team. That’s ALL you have been asked to do. As a designer, you’d be way off-base to come back to him/them with a jersey in different colors than the team colors, or didn’t work with the present design (logo, helmet, pants and socks), one that would require anything else to change.
Those are the contraints inherent in the deal.
Period.
Based on that, only five of today’s entries would even be eligible for consideration to survive this round.
Am I being a hard ass?
Yeah.
Welcome to design in the real commercial world.
—Ricko[/quote]
fortunately this is the real world of the Uni Watch “Design An NFL Jersey”, so all of the entries are eligible, since your hypothetical situation is not relevant.[/quote]
No, my hypothetical situation is EXACTLY how the contest was described. Read:
“The rules were somewhat simple: design a jersey for one team, and describe, in 50 words or less, that jersey.”
—Ricko[/quote]
“You can submit a home and away, and you can submit an entire uniform set (helmet, jersey, pants, socks, shoes), but we’re looking for the jersey. It may be helpful to create the full uniform (for visual purposes) so feel free to do so, but please remember the jersey is the important part.”
some times you really need to pull the stick out man
[quote comment=”378843″][quote comment=”378840″][quote comment=”378838″][quote comment=”378835″]I’m confused.
No one asked for a total redesign, only a jersey. So we have to assume the idea was to design one (or more) that would work with the team’s current uni.
The hypothetical situation is this: You have been asked by the GM-Coach-Owner (whoever) of Team A to design a new jersey for the team. That’s ALL you have been asked to do. As a designer, you’d be way off-base to come back to him/them with a jersey in different colors than the team colors, or didn’t work with the present design (logo, helmet, pants and socks), one that would require anything else to change.
Those are the contraints inherent in the deal.
Period.
Based on that, only five of today’s entries would even be eligible for consideration to survive this round.
Am I being a hard ass?
Yeah.
Welcome to design in the real commercial world.
—Ricko[/quote]
fortunately this is the real world of the Uni Watch “Design An NFL Jersey”, so all of the entries are eligible, since your hypothetical situation is not relevant.[/quote]
No, my hypothetical situation is EXACTLY how the contest was described. Read:
“The rules were somewhat simple: design a jersey for one team, and describe, in 50 words or less, that jersey.”
—Ricko[/quote]
“You can submit a home and away, and you can submit an entire uniform set (helmet, jersey, pants, socks, shoes), but we’re looking for the jersey. It may be helpful to create the full uniform (for visual purposes) so feel free to do so, but please remember the jersey is the important part.”
some times you really need to pull the stick out man[/quote]
So do you. This isn’t dreamland…or at least that’s the general tone of this endeavor. If 50 of the words would need to be…”but you’ll also need new helmets and pants and a whole new corporate identity package” then you you haven’t just “designed a new jersey.”
I’m saying, real world constraints make it more interesting, more relevant. More challenging, actually. Otherwise, we’re just designing new unis for Star Fleet.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”378842″][quote comment=”378835″]I’m confused.
No one asked for a total redesign, only a jersey. So we have to assume the idea was to design one (or more) that would work with the team’s current uni.
The hypothetical situation is this: You have been asked by the GM-Coach-Owner (whoever) of Team A to design a new jersey for the team. That’s ALL you have been asked to do. As a designer, you’d be way off-base to come back to him/them with a jersey in different colors than the team colors, or didn’t work with the present design (logo, helmet, pants and socks), one that would require anything else to change.
Those are the contraints inherent in the deal.
Period.
Based on that, only five of today’s entries would even be eligible for consideration to survive this round.
Am I being a hard ass?
Yeah.
Welcome to design in the real commercial world.
—Ricko[/quote]
I kinda see your point, but as clarification which five do you think meet the criteria?[/quote]
As near as I could tell (in a relatively thorough, but not nitpicky-thorough, review), only these included virtually no changes to any other part of the current uniform…
1. Craig Ackers, Cowboys
2. Joshua Bennett, Patriots (specifically said he was re-doing the throwback)
3. Ryan Bowman, Dolphins
4. Kevin Gaffney, Ravens (every element shown other than the jersey seems to be from current uni or recent versions of the current design).
5. Hungry Hungry Hipster, Cardinals (used a specific outside element–the flag–which includes the team’s predominant color)
Not saying we have to stick to that…but if we did, those would be the survivors to consider.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”378845″][quote comment=”378842″][quote comment=”378835″]I’m confused.
No one asked for a total redesign, only a jersey. So we have to assume the idea was to design one (or more) that would work with the team’s current uni.
The hypothetical situation is this: You have been asked by the GM-Coach-Owner (whoever) of Team A to design a new jersey for the team. That’s ALL you have been asked to do. As a designer, you’d be way off-base to come back to him/them with a jersey in different colors than the team colors, or didn’t work with the present design (logo, helmet, pants and socks), one that would require anything else to change.
Those are the contraints inherent in the deal.
Period.
Based on that, only five of today’s entries would even be eligible for consideration to survive this round.
Am I being a hard ass?
Yeah.
Welcome to design in the real commercial world.
—Ricko[/quote]
I kinda see your point, but as clarification which five do you think meet the criteria?[/quote]
As near as I could tell (in a relatively thorough, but not nitpicky-thorough, review), only these included virtually no changes to any other part of the current uniform…
1. Craig Ackers, Cowboys
2. Joshua Bennett, Patriots (specifically said he was re-doing the throwback)
3. Ryan Bowman, Dolphins
4. Kevin Gaffney, Ravens (every element shown other than the jersey seems to be from current uni or recent versions of the current design).
5. Hungry Hungry Hipster, Cardinals (used a specific outside element–the flag–which includes the team’s predominant color)
Not saying we have to stick to that…but if we did, those would be the survivors to consider.
—Ricko[/quote]
[quote comment=\”378845\”][quote comment=\”378842\”][quote comment=\”378835\”]I\’m confused.
No one asked for a total redesign, only a jersey. So we have to assume the idea was to design one (or more) that would work with the team\’s current uni.
The hypothetical situation is this: You have been asked by the GM-Coach-Owner (whoever) of Team A to design a new jersey for the team. That\’s ALL you have been asked to do. As a designer, you\’d be way off-base to come back to him/them with a jersey in different colors than the team colors, or didn\’t work with the present design (logo, helmet, pants and socks), one that would require anything else to change.
Those are the contraints inherent in the deal.
Period.
Based on that, only five of today\’s entries would even be eligible for consideration to survive this round.
Am I being a hard ass?
Yeah.
Welcome to design in the real commercial world.
—Ricko[/quote]
I kinda see your point, but as clarification which five do you think meet the criteria?[/quote]
As near as I could tell (in a relatively thorough, but not nitpicky-thorough, review), only these included virtually no changes to any other part of the current uniform…
1. Craig Ackers, Cowboys
2. Joshua Bennett, Patriots (specifically said he was re-doing the throwback)
3. Ryan Bowman, Dolphins
4. Kevin Gaffney, Ravens (every element shown other than the jersey seems to be from current uni or recent versions of the current design).
5. Hungry Hungry Hipster, Cardinals (used a specific outside element–the flag–which includes the team\’s predominant color)
Not saying we have to stick to that…but if we did, those would be the survivors to consider.
—Ricko[/quote]
Well, look, I agree with your overall assessment, but at the same time those weren\’t the terms the contest was founded on. And if they were, they weren\’t explained well. I don\’t think we should discount the other good designs that don\’t fit into your definition of what the contest should have been. And we shouldn\’t dissuade people from voting for the designs they like best just because they don\’t match up with your opinion. Just sayin, man.
Ricko-
Damn boy,take a breath! I know you’re taking the first sentence of the entry VERY seriously, but there was more to the description, as pointed-out by FormerDirtDart, so settle down. Also, per your description you would say the uniform would have to work with the helmet, pants and socks the team currently employs… So Hungry Hungry Hipster’s would look good w/ the current helmet and pants? Really? Yikes
Eizikowitz’s NY Redo is the top one here. Clean, modern, but not over the top.
Okay, I’ll admit I didn’t realize Phil had allowed full sets, because I didn’t pay that much attention to the details, owing to that I figured it would turn into a “Redesign Fantasy Fest”. And it did.
Personally, I think that flies in the face of the apparent concept. Kinda like: “Design a jersey…but it that’s too tough you can redesign everything.”
Just saying done that way is nothing but more refrigerator art. Fun, but not bearing any aura of plausibility.
I guess I’ve just been the ad agency/marketing world too long. You don’t get to make up the rules, rarely are you ever given a blank tableau and told “Do whatever you want.”
I’d sure as hell never teach a commercial design class that way. Parameters simply are part of that life. So, practically speaking, it wouldn’t be helping the students one iota.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”378847″]Ricko-
Damn boy,take a breath! I know you’re taking the first sentence of the entry VERY seriously, but there was more to the description, as pointed-out by FormerDirtDart, so settle down. Also, per your description you would say the uniform would have to work with the helmet, pants and socks the team currently employs… So Hungry Hungry Hipster’s would look good w/ the current helmet and pants? Really? Yikes[/quote]
Yes, for the reasons I mentioned, and inside the criteria I applied. Had it been green and orange, no.
But if they weren’t submitted as an Alt Cardinal jerseys, then I guess only four survive.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”378849″]Okay, I’ll admit I didn’t realize Phil had allowed full sets, because I didn’t pay that much attention to the details, owing to that I figured it would turn into a “Redesign Fantasy Fest”. And it did.
Personally, I think that flies in the face of the apparent concept. Kinda like: “Design a jersey…but it that’s too tough you can redesign everything.”
Just saying done that way is nothing but more refrigerator art. Fun, but not bearing any aura of plausibility.
I guess I’ve just been the ad agency/marketing world too long. You don’t get to make up the rules, rarely are you ever given a blank tableau and told “Do whatever you want.”
I’d sure as hell never teach a commercial design class that way. Parameters simply are part of that life. So, practically speaking, it wouldn’t be helping the students one iota.
—Ricko[/quote]
i think as long as a design looks good – plausible, marketable, etc – then it doesn’t matter if it doesnt fit with the team’s ‘current’ uniform. teams undergo full uniform redesigns, it happens. and since that was specifically allowed in the contest, i thin you’re kinda huffy over nothing, man.
[quote comment=”378833″][quote comment=”378830″]Hugh Jorgan’s redesign of the Green Bay Packers is da bomb! Right after I saw it this morning I ran out to the paint store and got materials to redecorate my basement apartment. Mom and dad are out of town for the weekend so I’m a bit under the gun.[/quote]
Am I the only one stumped by this?[/quote]
“hugh jorgan” … can roughly be translated to “huge organ”
and “Calvin Coolidge Rochester Vander Thorpe IV” just bought a one way ticket to the sin bin
[quote comment=”378851″][quote comment=”378849″]Okay, I’ll admit I didn’t realize Phil had allowed full sets, because I didn’t pay that much attention to the details, owing to that I figured it would turn into a “Redesign Fantasy Fest”. And it did.
Personally, I think that flies in the face of the apparent concept. Kinda like: “Design a jersey…but it that’s too tough you can redesign everything.”
Just saying done that way is nothing but more refrigerator art. Fun, but not bearing any aura of plausibility.
I guess I’ve just been the ad agency/marketing world too long. You don’t get to make up the rules, rarely are you ever given a blank tableau and told “Do whatever you want.”
I’d sure as hell never teach a commercial design class that way. Parameters simply are part of that life. So, practically speaking, it wouldn’t be helping the students one iota.
—Ricko[/quote]
i think as long as a design looks good – plausible, marketable, etc – then it doesn’t matter if it doesnt fit with the team’s ‘current’ uniform. teams undergo full uniform redesigns, it happens. and since that was specifically allowed in the contest, i thin you’re kinda huffy over nothing, man.[/quote]
See #80. LOL
Look, I’m just saying that allowing anything and everything is a little like trophies just for showing up in Little League, that’s all.
Also that real life sometimes has a hard-ass edge that we have to live with.
And I gotta go to a Memorial Service right now.
So, hopefully, no harm, no foul.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”378834″]Phil,
How do you like Carolyn Darbyshire’s throwing broom?[/quote]
missed most of the match, due to it being me mom’s birthday and my presence was requested at ‘brunch’ (dvr’ed it tho)…left just after canada dropped a 4-spot on the us
In my opinion, I think Todd Eizikowitz’s Giants design is the only one that immediately caught my eye when I opened it up and had the “Wow” factor. And, when you study it closer, and notice the modernization of their current logo (slight italic, and some hard corners, and the border), as well as the darker (older) blue, and the incorporation of the NY on the striping, it’s the best of the list.
[quote comment=”378839″][quote comment=”378796″]The Arsenal of Connecticut? I give you points for creativity.
However, there is a U.S.-registered trademark for “Arsenal” in sports (though, yes, it’s soccer).
Now, I don’t like the chances, either, that a team will move to CT. I think northern NJ has a better chance (though the Nets and Devils do not exactly draw). I will let everyone else make the jokes about a team’s name in Northern NJ.[/quote]
I’d suggest the Connecticut Cutters, in a Coast Guard sense, not a self-destructive behavior kind of way.
Also, I kind of liked the outside-the-box thinking that went into the Jets re-design. I could see that on an Arena League team.
By the way Anthony, are you the same guy who emails the Tony Kornheiser Show on a pretty regular basis?[/quote]
For a brief timr there was a New Haven Cutters team (forgot what independent league they were affiliated with.) Played at the Yale baseball stadium.
Who Dat gonna win the uni tweak contest? Love the Saints uni, brother.
[quote comment=”378854″][quote comment=”378834″]Phil,
How do you like Carolyn Darbyshire’s throwing broom?[/quote]
missed most of the match, due to it being me mom’s birthday and my presence was requested at ‘brunch’ (dvr’ed it tho)…left just after canada dropped a 4-spot on the us[/quote]
She holds an old straw broom when she throws
I think Ricko is off base considering the way the rules are spelled out. Nowhere does it say that we are just substituting a jersey for an existing NFL uniform. Yes, only the jersey will be judged, but we were given full license to design the whole uniform just so everyone can see the complete vision. You don’t just start eliminating people because they redesigned other parts of the uniform. This wasn’t a ‘real world’ assignment, it was a pie-in-the-sky contest to find the best redesign. As long as the jersey can be recreated by Classic Old School Gear, then it’s in play.
[quote comment=”378859″]I think Ricko is off base considering the way the rules are spelled out. Nowhere does it say that we are just substituting a jersey for an existing NFL uniform. Yes, only the jersey will be judged, but we were given full license to design the whole uniform just so everyone can see the complete vision. You don’t just start eliminating people because they redesigned other parts of the uniform. This wasn’t a ‘real world’ assignment, it was a pie-in-the-sky contest to find the best redesign. As long as the jersey can be recreated by Classic Old School Gear, then it’s in play.[/quote]
Well, when you consider that the winning entry will receive a real honest-to-goodness jersey, it kinda is a real-world assignment. If someone did design something within the constraints of the rules, how is it fair for someone else to come in and submit something that might actually look better, but completely ignores those rules? Don’t like a team’s color scheme? No problem — just invent a new one.
That being said, I’m not necessarily taking Ricko’s side on this one.
[quote comment=”378849″]Okay, I’ll admit I didn’t realize Phil had allowed full sets, because I didn’t pay that much attention to the details, owing to that I figured it would turn into a “Redesign Fantasy Fest”. And it did.
Personally, I think that flies in the face of the apparent concept. Kinda like: “Design a jersey…but it that’s too tough you can redesign everything.”
Just saying done that way is nothing but more refrigerator art. Fun, but not bearing any aura of plausibility.
I guess I’ve just been the ad agency/marketing world too long. You don’t get to make up the rules, rarely are you ever given a blank tableau and told “Do whatever you want.”
I’d sure as hell never teach a commercial design class that way. Parameters simply are part of that life. So, practically speaking, it wouldn’t be helping the students one iota.
—Ricko[/quote]
Later you said “no harm, no foul”, as if a post like this wasn’t supposed to put-down everybody who didn’t fit your criteria for the redesign contest. Not everybody on this board is a designer, in fact I’m sure most of them aren’t, so take it easy; just because you didn’t fully read the rules doesn’t give you the right to tell people who did read the rules and took advantage of designing the whole uniform that they are seemingly untalented and found it “too tough” to design just the jersey.
I just finished 4 years in design school, and we did projects that were meant to show how talented you were and what potential you have. Projects in an art/design school are meant to encourage the growth of a designer, not stunt it and confine it, so that last paragraph I am completely offended by, as well as most of what you’ve said.
Sorry that this contest hasn’t lived-up to your standards, you can ignore it then if it offends you so much.
First off, thank you to those who had kind words for my Seahawks tweak.
There were some really outstanding designs by my colleagues, but aside from mine, these are my 5 favorites…
1. Dave Delisle’s Bengals
2. Todd Eizikowitz’s Giants
3. Daniel Finocchio’s Dolphins (I cannot tell a lie)
4. Michael Hass’s Cardinals
5. Bob Jones’s Broncos
Oh the irony of Tampa Bay losing its team. Twenty years ago, they were trying to steal everyone else’s. (It wasn’t really stealing, as the area was just
abused by the owners for leverage in their own cities once they built the white elephant later christened Tropicana Field.) People forget it took a lawsuit against Major League Baseball for there to be a team in St. Petersburg at all.UGLY: both of the Browns tweaks I choked on my coffee when I saw that hideous “B” logo on the helmet! OIY VEY!
I’m a Jets fan and all I want to see is their logo a little simpler. Axe the football and the Jets and just leave the NY as they did when Mangini wore it.
I’ve been carefully reviewing all of these for the past hour or so and Todd Eizikowitz’s New York Giants uniform is my favorite. I love how he brought back the retro navy blue and especially the ‘ny’ with continuous stripes on the pants. I would definitely want to wear this uniform if I was a player.
I think Dave Delisle’s Bengals entry is fantastic! Certainly a huge improvement on what Cincinatti is currently wearing.
This will probably be lost in the discussion of the uniform design contest but…
After watching The Miracle on Ice special on NBC following the Russia Czech game the shots from the games at Lake Placid in 1980 reminded me of a question that I have not been able to find a sufficient answer to… why were the corners of the ice rink and some other areas on the ice blue, it was as if the paint used to paint the blue lines and the creases was mistakenly dumped in the corner and no one bothered to clean it up….Any answers Hockey Wing?
[quote comment=”378861″][quote comment=”378849″]Okay, I’ll admit I didn’t realize Phil had allowed full sets, because I didn’t pay that much attention to the details, owing to that I figured it would turn into a “Redesign Fantasy Fest”. And it did.
Personally, I think that flies in the face of the apparent concept. Kinda like: “Design a jersey…but it that’s too tough you can redesign everything.”
Just saying done that way is nothing but more refrigerator art. Fun, but not bearing any aura of plausibility.
I guess I’ve just been the ad agency/marketing world too long. You don’t get to make up the rules, rarely are you ever given a blank tableau and told “Do whatever you want.”
I’d sure as hell never teach a commercial design class that way. Parameters simply are part of that life. So, practically speaking, it wouldn’t be helping the students one iota.
—Ricko[/quote]
Later you said “no harm, no foul”, as if a post like this wasn’t supposed to put-down everybody who didn’t fit your criteria for the redesign contest. Not everybody on this board is a designer, in fact I’m sure most of them aren’t, so take it easy; just because you didn’t fully read the rules doesn’t give you the right to tell people who did read the rules and took advantage of designing the whole uniform that they are seemingly untalented and found it “too tough” to design just the jersey.
I just finished 4 years in design school, and we did projects that were meant to show how talented you were and what potential you have. Projects in an art/design school are meant to encourage the growth of a designer, not stunt it and confine it, so that last paragraph I am completely offended by, as well as most of what you’ve said.
Sorry that this contest hasn’t lived-up to your standards, you can ignore it then if it offends you so much.[/quote]
Let’s see. Four years in school. Forty years in the business.
I don’t really care if you’re offended. But if I were you, I’d be offended that your instructors didn’t spend time teaching you to work within real-world expectations and limitations.
They didn’t teach you that if a client asks you design his annual report and you come back with a design that also includes a new logo and a new corporate color scheme as part of the deal, you’ve messed up? Shame on them.
And I SAID I hadn’t read the full rules. I fessed up to that. Also said I didn’t agree with them, that’s all. There are times this site starts to feel like a Star Trek convention. And designing unis in a dream world with no consideration whatsoever for the reality of things is one of them.
Just saying had it been my deal, I’d have narrowed things, made it more challenging.
And, yeah, I’d be a tough grader.
That happens in school. And in life.
Live with it.
Yeah, change the Bills to Tennesse orange and green (or whatever it was), for example. That kind of thinking is fine for imaginary leagues in Madden. It just didn’t seem quite relevant for a “Design A Jersey” Contest. Wasn’t “Design a New Uniform.”
—Ricko
[quote comment=”378867″]I think Dave Delisle’s Bengals entry is fantastic! Certainly a huge improvement on what Cincinatti is currently wearing.[/quote]
Sending the Bengals out in nothing but pads and cups would be a huge improvement
I Thought David Bloomquist’s Seahawk tweek was the best. I thought Ryan Bowman’s Dolphin tweek was a close second. The Seahwawk design employed clean, crisp colors which is lacking on their current uniforms. I liked the addition of more orange and less navy to the Dolphin uniforms. I liked Todd Eizikowitz’ Giant redesign as a uniform in itself but not for the Giants. For some reason I really like their current set. Overall I enjoyed most of the efforts and look forward to next week.
Was this intentional? The back of John Baranowski’s jersey looks a wee bit like a British Union Jack:
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Interesting.
Great MLB color pics! Makes you want to reach out and just touch the material – with the player not in it of course.
Notice the wide spacing on the numbers on the front of Joe Torre’s Braves jersey???
\–Jet
Well first, thanks for the comments on the Arsenal designs. Personally I’m a new fan of the New Jersey Snookie’s lol.
As for the NFL redesign’s. . .
In my opinion, the best go to the Bengals, and the Chargers. Personally, I look for not just originality, but practicality. Something that wouldn’t be laughed off the field.
The Worst in my opinion is the Cowboys. It’s not bad, but I’m looking for something more than just a recolored giants away jersey.
As far as the Rays moving anywhere, except for maybe Tampa, before 2027….forget it.
The City of St. Petersburg has a lease that forbids anybody even talking to the Rays about relocating.
I guess that if somebody is wanting to move the Rays, it will cost them several tens or hundreds of millions of dollars just to get out of the lease. Not including the purchase price of the team itself.
There has been rumblings of 3 spots for a new stadium being considered in Hillsborough County, but that is in the planning stages.
Funny….my anti-spam word….Move.
More of the Pirates crappy link.
[quote comment=”378876″]More of the Pirates crappy link.[/quote]
That patch stuff is weak. Pretty good yinzer rookie card of the Bobs though. Bob Moose from Export, PA and Bob Robertson from Frostburg, MD.
I’d wear them all!
Um, no, I wouldn’t. But I would wear these JERSEYS:
Honorable Mention – David Bloomquist’s Seahawks, Ryan Bowman’s Dolphins, James Comfort’s Saints, Tony Crespo’s Browns, Daniel Finnochio’s Dolphins, Clint Glaze’s Chargers.
Bronze – Michael Fullmer’s 49ers
Silver – Bob Jones’ Broncos
Gold – Todd Eizikowitz’ Giants
Now, I focused ONLY on the jerseys…well, Todd’s whole look jumped out at me. A lot of other good ideas in this list, too.
Thanks to everyone!
Team USA hockey going with the throwbacks vs. Canada tonight.
[quote comment=”378877″][quote comment=”378876″]More of the Pirates crappy link.[/quote]
That patch stuff is weak. Pretty good yinzer rookie card of the Bobs though. Bob Moose from Export, PA and Bob Robertson from Frostburg, MD.[/quote]
“Patch hats” were quite commonly used in spring training back then (and before). Embroidery machines were not what they are today, and affixing a patch created flat onto the curved front of a hat was faster—and therefore less expensive—than direct embroidery onto the hat.
Here’s Ernie Banks in a Cubs patch hat from ’58 or ’59.
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—Ricko
I’d wear Marshall’s Marlins unis, too, especially the road ones:
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Very nice.
In no particular order my favorites are:
Walker Carlson’s Washington Redskins: The hues are a little dark, but it looks sharp.
Tony Crespo’s Cleveland Browns: I’m not entirely sold on the orange out-lines, but the off-white works. The sleeve stripes are nice too.
Joe Csikos’ New York Giants: Match the collar to the helmet stripe and it’d be absolutely perfect.
This Ricko guy is a buzz kill. He\’s the type of guy who would suck the fun out of Disneyland. Geez bud….chill.
[quote comment=\”378868\”]This will probably be lost in the discussion of the uniform design contest but…
After watching The Miracle on Ice special on NBC following the Russia Czech game the shots from the games at Lake Placid in 1980 reminded me of a question that I have not been able to find a sufficient answer to… why were the corners of the ice rink and some other areas on the ice blue, it was as if the paint used to paint the blue lines and the creases was mistakenly dumped in the corner and no one bothered to clean it up….Any answers Hockey Wing?[/quote]
the 1980 olympics were actually played on blue ice. That\’s where the idea came from that the Rochester Americans tried during the lockout. It\’s not completely apparent, but the entire surface has a slight blue hue to it. Why the corners are blue-er, i\’m not sure. I imagine it\’s a combination of paint spreading errors and the ice in those areas aren\’t as cut up by skates.
one other point that\’ll probably get lost, what is in the patch on the USA hockey throwback? In the sold product, the patch is only stripes, but in the game, there is clearly something written in blue…it looks like USA, but i\’d like to be sure. anyone else see this?
also, I agree with Ricko. Not only was the contest for single jersey (where we could submit the entire set for visual\’s sake. The jersey is the only thing that can be counted, even if there IS something else there. The two-three jersey submissions are crap. And I thought only 50 words were allowed? I hope this thing is tightened up for when voting occurs
[quote comment=”378884″][quote comment=\”378868\”]This will probably be lost in the discussion of the uniform design contest but…
After watching The Miracle on Ice special on NBC following the Russia Czech game the shots from the games at Lake Placid in 1980 reminded me of a question that I have not been able to find a sufficient answer to… why were the corners of the ice rink and some other areas on the ice blue, it was as if the paint used to paint the blue lines and the creases was mistakenly dumped in the corner and no one bothered to clean it up….Any answers Hockey Wing?[/quote]
the 1980 olympics were actually played on blue ice. That\’s where the idea came from that the Rochester Americans tried during the lockout. It\’s not completely apparent, but the entire surface has a slight blue hue to it. Why the corners are blue-er, i\’m not sure. I imagine it\’s a combination of paint spreading errors and the ice in those areas aren\’t as cut up by skates.
one other point that\’ll probably get lost, what is in the patch on the USA hockey throwback? In the sold product, the patch is only stripes, but in the game, there is clearly something written in blue…it looks like USA, but i\’d like to be sure. anyone else see this?
also, I agree with Ricko. Not only was the contest for single jersey (where we could submit the entire set for visual\’s sake. The jersey is the only thing that can be counted, even if there IS something else there. The two-three jersey submissions are crap. And I thought only 50 words were allowed? I hope this thing is tightened up for when voting occurs[/quote]
The word is AHAUS which stands for Amateur Hockey Association of American. It was the forerunner ot USA Hockey, Inc. It was the amateur ruling body in 1960.
[quote comment=”378864″]UGLY: both of the Browns tweaks I choked on my coffee when I saw that hideous “B” logo on the helmet!
OIY VEY![/quote]
like i said in my comments, i really battled the idea of doing an Alt uni. but if i was going to take the time to do one, i might as well go all out. personally i think the Helmets should stay the way it is and never have a logo on it.
[quote comment=”378811″][quote comment=”378802″]
3) James Hayden: Washington Redskins
I like this concept, however, I would like to see this developed a little more using better templates.[/quote]
Just because I truly have nothing better to do at the moment… and I had paintshop open… here’s my re-interpretation of his design on a hopefully better template. Wasn’t really sure on his number font so I just used regular block numbers, and I took a guess on the helmet since he didn’t show one.
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The Jeff
WOW – that’s exactly what I was trying to get across with my so-so drawing skills (I’m using Windows Paintbrush for crissake). I did provide an “improved”, in depth version of this uni tweak a couple weeks ago (but I used an unfortunate choice of nickname in my intro e-mail so the whole concept got lost in the controversy) and as an afterthought on my Ravens/U of MD tweak, but your version is much easier on the eyes – Thanks!
[quote comment=”378808″]
Did ya do anything?? They look the same!
-Ackers’ Cowboys
-Alkire’s Chiefs
-Bertucci’s Browns
-Crespo’s Browns
-Ebert’s Bears
The EA Sports Team Builders!
You guy didn’t design these. EA SPORTS DID!
-Bertucci’s Browns
-Crespo’s Browns
-Ebert’s Bears
-Comfort’s Saints[/quote]
is the point of a teak is a slight change? some uni’s dont need to be overhauled, just slightly modified
i openly admitted to using was slightly cheating. some of us dont have the skill set to use photoshop or other programs like it. so i used what i would be user friendly and would let me do what i wanted to do.
The lack of blue ice- or whatever it was that gave it the look of being played on a pond- was my biggest problem with the movie “Miracle”.
[quote comment=”378883″]This Ricko guy is a buzz kill. He\’s the type of guy who would suck the fun out of Disneyland. Geez bud….chill.[/quote]
You’re operating under the assumption that all buzzes are good, I take it.
At least I’m not totally alone (see end of post #116).
Also, please keep in mind that I said NOTHING against the quality of anyone’s designs or their efforts. Many are absolutely great (and I love them), they just seem a bit far afield of what would be the apparent scope of the “assignment”.
—Ricko
Now confirmed what we already knew. My cable company is the shittiest in the universe. No USA/Canada hockey. Not even on MSNBC. ARRRGGGGHHH! My kids are not happy and I’m PEEOWED!!!!
[quote comment=”378891″]Now confirmed what we already knew. My cable company is the shittiest in the universe. No USA/Canada hockey. Not even on MSNBC. ARRRGGGGHHH! My kids are not happy and I’m PEEOWED!!!![/quote]
Try regular MSNBC, that’s where I’m getting it (just stumbled onto, actually)
—Ricko
[quote comment=”378891″]Now confirmed what we already knew. My cable company is the shittiest in the universe. No USA/Canada hockey. Not even on MSNBC. ARRRGGGGHHH! My kids are not happy and I’m PEEOWED!!!![/quote]
And cheap. They are one of a handful that would not pay extra for the expanded olympics package.
[quote comment=”378893″][quote comment=”378891″]Now confirmed what we already knew. My cable company is the shittiest in the universe. No USA/Canada hockey. Not even on MSNBC. ARRRGGGGHHH! My kids are not happy and I’m PEEOWED!!!![/quote]
And cheap. They are one of a handful that would not pay extra for the expanded olympics package.[/quote]
Can’t even stream on the internet. It asks to verify your cable company and of course mine is not an option. They WILL be hearing why I’m switching to satelite tomorrow.
-Ricko
I rest my case
[quote comment=”378895″]-Ricko
I rest my case[/quote]
Probably should, considering the length, breadth and depth of it was calling me a buzz-killer.
Just a point that I’m sure has been raised before: If the Patriots name and logos represent a soldier in the Continental Army, their uniform should not be red. Didn’t Washington’s Army fight the Red coats?
sweet
[quote comment=”378898″]link[/quote]
I was waiting for that
Dish or Direct? I need to know who to call tomorrow. Which is better?
[quote comment=”378900″]Dish or Direct? I need to know who to call tomorrow. Which is better?[/quote]
I have DirecTV and I think it has a better sports package and their customer service has always been top notch. I have had it since 2000.
[quote comment=”378897″]Just a point that I’m sure has been raised before: If the Patriots name and logos represent a soldier in the Continental Army, their uniform should not be red. Didn’t Washington’s Army fight the Red coats?[/quote]
I’ll splain it again. By the time the Patriots filed their uni choce with the original AFL, the Bills, Titans and Oilers (the other three teams in the Eastern Divsion) had all already filed various shades of blue jerseys, as had the Chargers in the West. Pats were kinda told to pick something else.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”378901″][quote comment=”378900″]Dish or Direct? I need to know who to call tomorrow. Which is better?[/quote]
I have DirecTV and I think it has a better sports package and their customer service has always been top notch. I have had it since 2000.[/quote]
Done.
[quote comment=”378901″][quote comment=”378900″]Dish or Direct? I need to know who to call tomorrow. Which is better?[/quote]
I have DirecTV and I think it has a better sports package and their customer service has always been top notch. I have had it since 2000.[/quote]
The only draw back to DirecTV is they are having a battle with comcast over Versus so it is not in their package as of now.
[quote comment=”378899″][quote comment=”378898″]link[/quote]
I was waiting for that[/quote]
Poor Teebz.
Don’t worry, you’ll always have every game not played on one of our home soils.
I’m still baffled how NBC could have relegated the biggest Preliminary Round hockey game for the north american market to MSNBC. Hell I’m not a hockey fan, and even I know that doesn’t make sense
[quote comment=”378904″][quote comment=”378901″][quote comment=”378900″]Dish or Direct? I need to know who to call tomorrow. Which is better?[/quote]
I have DirecTV and I think it has a better sports package and their customer service has always been top notch. I have had it since 2000.[/quote]
The only draw back to DirecTV is they are having a battle with comcast over Versus so it is not in their package as of now.[/quote]
Do have all the Fox Sports Wherevers? And an NHL package?
before y’all start bashing cable…
this is aboot the one area where i can say “neener neener”…
i got the game (albeit, because it was me mum’s birthday, i only saw about 5 minutes of it — thank god for dvr)…in glorious HD
and we gets versus…
but it pretty much SUCKS for everything else; no NFL network, none of the fox packages…no chance in hell of ever getting sunday ticket…and it’s expensive as hell
but for this game…thank god for cable
[quote comment=”378906″]I’m still baffled how NBC could have relegated the biggest Preliminary Round hockey game for the north american market to MSNBC. Hell I’m not a hockey fan, and even I know that doesn’t make sense[/quote]
Yeah, that was baffling me, too.
Just…dumb.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”378907″][quote comment=”378904″][quote comment=”378901″][quote comment=”378900″]Dish or Direct? I need to know who to call tomorrow. Which is better?[/quote]
I have DirecTV and I think it has a better sports package and their customer service has always been top notch. I have had it since 2000.[/quote]
The only draw back to DirecTV is they are having a battle with comcast over Versus so it is not in their package as of now.[/quote]
Do have all the Fox Sports Wherevers? And an NHL package?[/quote]
I have all the Fox Sports/Comcast Sport channels with the Big Ten and Mountian West Network. I don’t have the NHL package because I can’t afford it but I only really watch the Red Wings games anyway.
Having all those Fox/Comcast channels is great during college football season as you get to see a lot of extra games.
[quote comment=”378910″][quote comment=”378907″][quote comment=”378904″][quote comment=”378901″][quote comment=”378900″]Dish or Direct? I need to know who to call tomorrow. Which is better?[/quote]
I have DirecTV and I think it has a better sports package and their customer service has always been top notch. I have had it since 2000.[/quote]
The only draw back to DirecTV is they are having a battle with comcast over Versus so it is not in their package as of now.[/quote]
Do have all the Fox Sports Wherevers? And an NHL package?[/quote]
I have all the Fox Sports/Comcast Sport channels with the Big Ten and Mountian West Network. I don’t have the NHL package because I can’t afford it but I only really watch the Red Wings games anyway.
Having all those Fox/Comcast channels is great during college football season as you get to see a lot of extra games.[/quote]
Also have NHL, MLB and NFL networks plus NBA TV and golf and tennis channel.
[quote comment=”378908″]before y’all start bashing cable…
this is aboot the one area where i can say “neener neener”…
i got the game (albeit, because it was me mum’s birthday, i only saw about 5 minutes of it — thank god for dvr)…in glorious HD
and we gets versus…
but it pretty much SUCKS for everything else; no NFL network, none of the fox packages…no chance in hell of ever getting sunday ticket…and it’s expensive as hell
but for this game…thank god for cable[/quote]
Hey, it’s my moms birthday also, I spent most of the second period on the phone with her
[quote comment=”378908″]before y’all start bashing cable…
this is aboot the one area where i can say “neener neener”…
i got the game (albeit, because it was me mum’s birthday, i only saw about 5 minutes of it — thank god for dvr)…in glorious HD
and we gets versus…
but it pretty much SUCKS for everything else; no NFL network, none of the fox packages…no chance in hell of ever getting sunday ticket…and it’s expensive as hell
but for this game…thank god for cable[/quote]
I didn’t even know MSNBC was broadcast in HD Comcast doesn’t carry it in HD down here in FL
[quote comment=”378913″][quote comment=”378908″]before y’all start bashing cable…
this is aboot the one area where i can say “neener neener”…
i got the game (albeit, because it was me mum’s birthday, i only saw about 5 minutes of it — thank god for dvr)…in glorious HD
and we gets versus…
but it pretty much SUCKS for everything else; no NFL network, none of the fox packages…no chance in hell of ever getting sunday ticket…and it’s expensive as hell
but for this game…thank god for cable[/quote]
I didn’t even know MSNBC was broadcast in HD Comcast doesn’t carry it in HD down here in FL[/quote]
Yeah, the started last July (I believe) but a lot of cable/satelite companies don’t offer it in HD.
[quote comment=”378912″][quote comment=”378908″]before y’all start bashing cable…
this is aboot the one area where i can say “neener neener”…
i got the game (albeit, because it was me mum’s birthday, i only saw about 5 minutes of it — thank god for dvr)…in glorious HD
and we gets versus…
but it pretty much SUCKS for everything else; no NFL network, none of the fox packages…no chance in hell of ever getting sunday ticket…and it’s expensive as hell
but for this game…thank god for cable[/quote]
Hey, it’s my moms birthday also, I spent most of the second period on the phone with her[/quote]
My mom’s birthday was yesterday….which would have worked out quite well for the game tonight…but…yes…I am bashing my cable company. For what I feel is good reason. NBC too.
Gary Bettman ought to be included in this. Could he not step to the plate and get on NBC’s case? This is certainly a game that would undoubedly promote the NHL.
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Gary Bettman ought to be included in this. Could he not step to the plate and get on NBC’s case? This is certainly a game that would undoubedly promote the NHL.[/quote]
what? push the ice dancing to msnbc?
not happening
[quote comment=”378916″][quote comment=”378915″]
Gary Bettman ought to be included in this. Could he not step to the plate and get on NBC’s case? This is certainly a game that would undoubedly promote the NHL.[/quote]
what? push the ice dancing to msnbc?
not happening[/quote]
Hahahaha! No disrespect to Ice Dancing….wait a minute, with ALL disrespect to Ice Dancing, move it to LIFETIME!!!
[quote comment=”378909″][quote comment=”378906″]I’m still baffled how NBC could have relegated the biggest Preliminary Round hockey game for the north american market to MSNBC. Hell I’m not a hockey fan, and even I know that doesn’t make sense[/quote]
Yeah, that was baffling me, too.
Just…dumb.
—Ricko[/quote]
Dumb like a fox, if my memory serves me correctly.
I think I read that after football, the next highest rated sports are Nascar and…figure skating. When I used to have ESPN, they sometimes used to counter the Super Bowl with figure skating, to get all the football widows to watch.
Don’t get me wrong, if I had the choice I woulda watched the hockey. But I think NBC was going for the overall highest ratings. Sure, in Canada that game had to take precedence. Here, it was another matter. Whereas the dominant target market in the US used to be men aged 18-34, it seems to have shifted to women of that age. More and more commercials (during non-sports programming) seem to feature the smart do-it-all mom pitching a product that makes her life easier…and it’s so easy her doofus husband can use it too.
Too late for me to look up all this, but if someone has info to refute me, by all means do so. I’m just going from memory here.
admit it vilk
you just wanted to see the ice dancing ;)
New Rule:
From now on every NFL team must have TV numbers on the side of their pants.
[quote comment=”378918″][quote comment=”378909″][quote comment=”378906″]I’m still baffled how NBC could have relegated the biggest Preliminary Round hockey game for the north american market to MSNBC. Hell I’m not a hockey fan, and even I know that doesn’t make sense[/quote]
Yeah, that was baffling me, too.
Just…dumb.
—Ricko[/quote]
Dumb like a fox, if my memory serves me correctly.
I think I read that after football, the next highest rated sports are Nascar and…figure skating. When I used to have ESPN, they sometimes used to counter the Super Bowl with figure skating, to get all the football widows to watch.
Don’t get me wrong, if I had the choice I woulda watched the hockey. But I think NBC was going for the overall highest ratings. Sure, in Canada that game had to take precedence. Here, it was another matter. Whereas the dominant target market in the US used to be men aged 18-34, it seems to have shifted to women of that age. More and more commercials (during non-sports programming) seem to feature the smart do-it-all mom pitching a product that makes her life easier…and it’s so easy her doofus husband can use it too.
Too late for me to look up all this, but if someone has info to refute me, by all means do so. I’m just going from memory here.[/quote]
I’d guess that when the USA was winning in 1980, the NHL benefitted. NBC has the NHL contract (for now). And now the USA wins another big game and they didn’t show it to their mass audience. I call that a missed opportunity. Even if Canada had won it would still have been great exposure for other NHL programming. Tell me TV doesn’t control times of Olympic events and I won’t believe you. It could have been done and Bettman should have been screaming for it.
[quote comment=”378892″][quote comment=”378891″]Now confirmed what we already knew. My cable company is the shittiest in the universe. No USA/Canada hockey. Not even on MSNBC. ARRRGGGGHHH! My kids are not happy and I’m PEEOWED!!!![/quote]
Try regular MSNBC, that’s where I’m getting it (just stumbled onto, actually)
—Ricko[/quote]
Stupid me. I’m watching NBC, I know it’s past the start time for USA/Can, and I go, where’s the puck? After a half hour or more, I realize it’s on MSNBC.
Now why wouldn’t the marquee event go on the mothership?
Never mind, it’s NBC.
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Now why wouldn’t the marquee event go on the mothership?
Never mind, it’s NBC.[/quote]
brinke…the marquee event DID go on nbc
it’s called ice dance
[quote comment=”378918″][quote comment=”378909″][quote comment=”378906″]I’m still baffled how NBC could have relegated the biggest Preliminary Round hockey game for the north american market to MSNBC. Hell I’m not a hockey fan, and even I know that doesn’t make sense[/quote]
Yeah, that was baffling me, too.
Just…dumb.
—Ricko[/quote]
Dumb like a fox, if my memory serves me correctly.
I think I read that after football, the next highest rated sports are Nascar and…figure skating. When I used to have ESPN, they sometimes used to counter the Super Bowl with figure skating, to get all the football widows to watch.
Don’t get me wrong, if I had the choice I woulda watched the hockey. But I think NBC was going for the overall highest ratings. Sure, in Canada that game had to take precedence. Here, it was another matter. Whereas the dominant target market in the US used to be men aged 18-34, it seems to have shifted to women of that age. More and more commercials (during non-sports programming) seem to feature the smart do-it-all mom pitching a product that makes her life easier…and it’s so easy her doofus husband can use it too.
Too late for me to look up all this, but if someone has info to refute me, by all means do so. I’m just going from memory here.[/quote]
That was the exact reason that NBC gave in their decision to show ice dancing over hockey, Vilk.
More women control the remote than men, and more women watch the Olympics. Therefore, NBC showed the event that would appeal to more women – and hockey isn’t it.
[quote comment=”378924″][quote comment=”378918″][quote comment=”378909″][quote comment=”378906″]I’m still baffled how NBC could have relegated the biggest Preliminary Round hockey game for the north american market to MSNBC. Hell I’m not a hockey fan, and even I know that doesn’t make sense[/quote]
Yeah, that was baffling me, too.
Just…dumb.
—Ricko[/quote]
Dumb like a fox, if my memory serves me correctly.
I think I read that after football, the next highest rated sports are Nascar and…figure skating. When I used to have ESPN, they sometimes used to counter the Super Bowl with figure skating, to get all the football widows to watch.
Don’t get me wrong, if I had the choice I woulda watched the hockey. But I think NBC was going for the overall highest ratings. Sure, in Canada that game had to take precedence. Here, it was another matter. Whereas the dominant target market in the US used to be men aged 18-34, it seems to have shifted to women of that age. More and more commercials (during non-sports programming) seem to feature the smart do-it-all mom pitching a product that makes her life easier…and it’s so easy her doofus husband can use it too.
Too late for me to look up all this, but if someone has info to refute me, by all means do so. I’m just going from memory here.[/quote]
That was the exact reason that NBC gave in their decision to show ice dancing over hockey, Vilk.
More women control the remote than men, and more women watch the Olympics. Therefore, NBC showed the event that would appeal to more women – and hockey isn’t it.[/quote]
I still say they are getting 50 cents now when they could have a dollar later. AND they could have arranged the schedule to show the game this afternoon. Flip flopped the Russia/Czech game. Yeah, I’m blabbing from emotion of not getting to see it but, but, ah, the hell with it. Stupid peacock.
Todd’s Giants was by far my fave.
So I hurt your feeling Greg with my Jets changes.
I was just trying to do something different and would stand out.
[quote comment=”378894″][quote comment=”378893″][quote comment=”378891″]Now confirmed what we already knew. My cable company is the shittiest in the universe. No USA/Canada hockey. Not even on MSNBC. ARRRGGGGHHH! My kids are not happy and I’m PEEOWED!!!![/quote]
And cheap. They are one of a handful that would not pay extra for the expanded olympics package.[/quote]
Can’t even stream on the internet. It asks to verify your cable company and of course mine is not an option. They WILL be hearing why I’m switching to satelite tomorrow.[/quote]
Ben,
I’m confused here. Are you saying that your cable company doesn’t even offer MSNBC or that they giving you some kind of an alternate version of MSNBC that isn’t covering the Olympics?
[quote comment=”378927″][quote comment=”378894″][quote comment=”378893″][quote comment=”378891″]Now confirmed what we already knew. My cable company is the shittiest in the universe. No USA/Canada hockey. Not even on MSNBC. ARRRGGGGHHH! My kids are not happy and I’m PEEOWED!!!![/quote]
And cheap. They are one of a handful that would not pay extra for the expanded olympics package.[/quote]
Can’t even stream on the internet. It asks to verify your cable company and of course mine is not an option. They WILL be hearing why I’m switching to satelite tomorrow.[/quote]
Ben,
I’m confused here. Are you saying that your cable company doesn’t even offer MSNBC or that they giving you some kind of an alternate version of MSNBC that isn’t covering the Olympics?[/quote]
maybe he is on the west coast and they’re getting it delayed until prime time.
I know I’m late to the party today but I really like the Baltimore Ravens Jersey with the wings. Especially the black one.
[quote comment=”378928″][quote comment=”378927″][quote comment=”378894″][quote comment=”378893″][quote comment=”378891″]Now confirmed what we already knew. My cable company is the shittiest in the universe. No USA/Canada hockey. Not even on MSNBC. ARRRGGGGHHH! My kids are not happy and I’m PEEOWED!!!![/quote]
And cheap. They are one of a handful that would not pay extra for the expanded olympics package.[/quote]
Can’t even stream on the internet. It asks to verify your cable company and of course mine is not an option. They WILL be hearing why I’m switching to satelite tomorrow.[/quote]
Ben,
I’m confused here. Are you saying that your cable company doesn’t even offer MSNBC or that they giving you some kind of an alternate version of MSNBC that isn’t covering the Olympics?[/quote]
maybe he is on the west coast and they’re getting it delayed until prime time.[/quote]
Here’s the deal. NBC advertises as though all “expanded” olympic coverage is free. In actuality it is not free to cable companies. They pay extra for it. Most large companies pay the NBC markup. There is also a bunch of independent cable companies that are smaller and can’t afford the NBC markup. If they don’t pay up then people like me get to see multiple episodes of “Lockup” on MSNBC instead of the biggest hockey game of the year. The independent cable companies trade association tried to strike a deal but NBC wouldn’t budge. I probably shouldn’t bash my city (government) owned cable company but I’m taking it out on anything I can find. So screw NBC and screw City Cable.
[quote comment=”378904″][quote comment=”378901″][quote comment=”378900″]Dish or Direct? I need to know who to call tomorrow. Which is better?[/quote]
I have DirecTV and I think it has a better sports package and their customer service has always been top notch. I have had it since 2000.[/quote]
The only draw back to DirecTV is they are having a battle with comcast over Versus so it is not in their package as of now.[/quote]
Totally agree. I have had DirecTV for three years now, and it is amazing. NFL Network, Big Ten Network, Golf Ch, NBA Ch, NHL Ch, Tennis Ch and all the options for the season packages. As stated above, no Versus, but that is a small thing. Their customer service has been amazing for me, and I would recommend DirecTV to anyone looking to switch providers. Oh, and I had no problem watching the hockey game tonight. I got to see it in all of its gloriousness.
[quote comment=”378931″][quote comment=”378904″][quote comment=”378901″][quote comment=”378900″]Dish or Direct? I need to know who to call tomorrow. Which is better?[/quote]
I have DirecTV and I think it has a better sports package and their customer service has always been top notch. I have had it since 2000.[/quote]
The only draw back to DirecTV is they are having a battle with comcast over Versus so it is not in their package as of now.[/quote]
Totally agree. I have had DirecTV for three years now, and it is amazing. NFL Network, Big Ten Network, Golf Ch, NBA Ch, NHL Ch, Tennis Ch and all the options for the season packages. As stated above, no Versus, but that is a small thing. Their customer service has been amazing for me, and I would recommend DirecTV to anyone looking to switch providers. Oh, and I had no problem watching the hockey game tonight. I got to see it in all of its gloriousness.[/quote]
I’m in Big 12 country. Is there any package for that? Oh, and if there is an NHL package there is no need for versus – which I actually get on City Friggin Cable.
The NHL also started charging our cable company extra this year to show the Blues games on Fox Sports Midwest. And guess what. City Cable decided not to pay. So, the only NHL games I get are on versus. Can you tell I’m not happy?
[quote comment=”378932″]
I’m in Big 12 country. Is there any package for that? Oh, and if there is an NHL package there is no need for versus – which I actually get on City Friggin Cable.
The NHL also started charging our cable company extra this year to show the Blues games on Fox Sports Midwest. And guess what. City Cable decided not to pay. So, the only NHL games I get are on versus. Can you tell I’m not happy?[/quote]
blame espn
no really…the deal they came up with years ago is a license to print money
everyone wants in on it…which is why, in no small part, both NY baseball teams have their own channels now, and the cable provider owns MSG, the knicks & the rangers
basically, at least here…they’re charging about 5 bucks per month PER SUBSCRIBER (which of course, the carriers pass along to us) PLUS they get all the commercial revenue
which is why, in the not too distant future, you can pretty much bank on them having 10 networks and basically overpaying (which, again, they’ll pass on to the providers, who will, in turn, pass it along to us) for EVERY sport — at least on the national level
they just got the NC2A football playoff package, and they’re gonna knock off cbs from the final four next year
WWL indeed
[quote comment=”378933″][quote comment=”378932″]
I’m in Big 12 country. Is there any package for that? Oh, and if there is an NHL package there is no need for versus – which I actually get on City Friggin Cable.
The NHL also started charging our cable company extra this year to show the Blues games on Fox Sports Midwest. And guess what. City Cable decided not to pay. So, the only NHL games I get are on versus. Can you tell I’m not happy?[/quote]
blame espn
no really…the deal they came up with years ago is a license to print money
everyone wants in on it…which is why, in no small part, both NY baseball teams have their own channels now, and the cable provider owns MSG, the knicks & the rangers
basically, at least here…they’re charging about 5 bucks per month PER SUBSCRIBER (which of course, the carriers pass along to us) PLUS they get all the commercial revenue
which is why, in the not too distant future, you can pretty much bank on them having 10 networks and basically overpaying (which, again, they’ll pass on to the providers, who will, in turn, pass it along to us) for EVERY sport — at least on the national level
they just got the NC2A football playoff package, and they’re gonna knock off cbs from the final four next year
WWL indeed[/quote]
For the Blues games they wanted something like $2.30 per subscriber. Since there aren’t a whole helluva lot of hockey fans around here they didn’t pay up. Well, they are losing at least one subscriber because of it. Looks like the little guy (independent cable companies) loses again to big business.
Looks like a lot a people had some fun with their uni designs. And yes Ricko, you are being kind of an ass. I bet you’re one of those people who says, “it’s trekies, not trekers”…or vise-versa…I think the real point of the contest was to have fun. I guessing you are one of the people who did nearly nothing with a change to the jersey design. Maybe the Chiefs, Bears, Chargers or Radiers guy. Or maybe the Browns guy. I for one would be very disappointed if the winner had a custom jersey made with only losing the outline of the numbers. Very boring. On the other side, If Joe Katz wins…YIKES! Someone is color blind!
[quote comment=”378869″]Let’s see. Four years in school. Forty years in the business.
[Sorry that I’m only 23, I’ll just keep my opinion to myself then]
I don’t really care if you’re offended. But if I were you, I’d be offended that your instructors didn’t spend time teaching you to work within real-world expectations and limitations.
[Wow, that is a stretch! When was the last time you looked at how a design school works? 40 years ago? We do have limitations, sometimes they are very strict and sometimes they are broad, and in this case they were broad so the majority of designers took advantage of that]
They didn’t teach you that if a client asks you design his annual report and you come back with a design that also includes a new logo and a new corporate color scheme as part of the deal, you’ve messed up? Shame on them.
[Indeed, shame on them! If only they were as smart as you! Then my portfolio would be littered with compromises and inaccuracies about what I was capable of! If I was asked to do just a logo, then I would, don’t assume I’m an idiot just because your ego is so inflated]
And I SAID I hadn’t read the full rules. I fessed up to that. Also said I didn’t agree with them, that’s all. There are times this site starts to feel like a Star Trek convention. And designing unis in a dream world with no consideration whatsoever for the reality of things is one of them.
[So why do you keep ranting? Why do you keep putting down everybody’s designs that didn’t meet the standards you created in your head? It’s not even about what looks good to you, just what pegs fit in the hole you created]
Just saying had it been my deal, I’d have narrowed things, made it more challenging.
And, yeah, I’d be a tough grader.
That happens in school. And in life.
Live with it.
[Next contest, sure thing! Also, 40 years in the industry and you say things like “That happens… in life. Live with it”?]
Yeah, change the Bills to Tennesse orange and green (or whatever it was), for example. That kind of thinking is fine for imaginary leagues in Madden. It just didn’t seem quite relevant for a “Design A Jersey” Contest. Wasn’t “Design a New Uniform.”
[That would be a preference in taste… And no, that wasn’t my taste. The only designs that will be up to win are the ones that are chosen, and I don’t think that’ll be chosen. Have some fun, after so long in the industry don’t you like having something less confining to let-off some steam to?]
—Ricko[/quote]
I’ve already said plenty, if you (Ricko) wish to reply, go right ahead, but I’m trying to get the point across that you’re no more important then any one other person visiting this site. 40 years of experience doesn’t mean much when you’re just going to use it to be the message board bully.
I’m 23, just a year out of college with just 5 years of designing professionally as a freelancer, and at times I can be hot-headed, especially when I’m being talked down to like so. What’s your excuse for acting so obtuse?
BTW, in all my soapboxing I forgot to cast my vote (all my opinions past the names are just my opinions, still great work by these and all the other designers… But Katz, that’s a bit too much)…
Gaffney’s got my vote, especially for the colored uniforms. The white needs more purple besides just the numbers to work as well as the home and alt jerseys, but I love the concept.
Props also to these designs…
Crespo- Love the use of cream rather then white, too busy on the helmet stripes and jersey numbers, though. Some other issues I’m guessing (seeing the others) is just the EA template, so I won’t mention them other then saying the away whites (and the face masks) should be cream as well
Jones- A few tweaks could have made this my favorite (sleeve cuff the same color as the sleeve, just piping between the sleeve and jersey body), but still a good design
Csikos and Bowman, by the way.
I love:
Jesse Alkire: KC Chiefs
Joshua Bennett: NE Patriots
Rocky Canonica: Philly Eagles
James Comfort: NO Saints
Dave Delisle: Cincy Bengals
Todd Eisikowitz: NY Giants
Bob Jones: Denver Broncos
Christopher Kane: Philly Eagles
Eeth Koth is the name of a Jedi.
My last post should have said “So sorry”
Yeah, I stole it for my username.
[quote comment=”378936″][quote comment=”378869″]Let’s see. Four years in school. Forty years in the business.
[Sorry that I’m only 23, I’ll just keep my opinion to myself then]
I don’t really care if you’re offended. But if I were you, I’d be offended that your instructors didn’t spend time teaching you to work within real-world expectations and limitations.
[Wow, that is a stretch! When was the last time you looked at how a design school works? 40 years ago? We do have limitations, sometimes they are very strict and sometimes they are broad, and in this case they were broad so the majority of designers took advantage of that]
They didn’t teach you that if a client asks you design his annual report and you come back with a design that also includes a new logo and a new corporate color scheme as part of the deal, you’ve messed up? Shame on them.
[Indeed, shame on them! If only they were as smart as you! Then my portfolio would be littered with compromises and inaccuracies about what I was capable of! If I was asked to do just a logo, then I would, don’t assume I’m an idiot just because your ego is so inflated]
And I SAID I hadn’t read the full rules. I fessed up to that. Also said I didn’t agree with them, that’s all. There are times this site starts to feel like a Star Trek convention. And designing unis in a dream world with no consideration whatsoever for the reality of things is one of them.
[So why do you keep ranting? Why do you keep putting down everybody’s designs that didn’t meet the standards you created in your head? It’s not even about what looks good to you, just what pegs fit in the hole you created]
Just saying had it been my deal, I’d have narrowed things, made it more challenging.
And, yeah, I’d be a tough grader.
That happens in school. And in life.
Live with it.
[Next contest, sure thing! Also, 40 years in the industry and you say things like “That happens… in life. Live with it”?]
Yeah, change the Bills to Tennesse orange and green (or whatever it was), for example. That kind of thinking is fine for imaginary leagues in Madden. It just didn’t seem quite relevant for a “Design A Jersey” Contest. Wasn’t “Design a New Uniform.”
[That would be a preference in taste… And no, that wasn’t my taste. The only designs that will be up to win are the ones that are chosen, and I don’t think that’ll be chosen. Have some fun, after so long in the industry don’t you like having something less confining to let-off some steam to?]
—Ricko[/quote]
I’ve already said plenty, if you (Ricko) wish to reply, go right ahead, but I’m trying to get the point across that you’re no more important then any one other person visiting this site. 40 years of experience doesn’t mean much when you’re just going to use it to be the message board bully.
I’m 23, just a year out of college with just 5 years of designing professionally as a freelancer, and at times I can be hot-headed, especially when I’m being talked down to like so. What’s your excuse for acting so obtuse?[/quote]
I didn’t talk DOWN to anyone. Talked from another side of the issue.
And was just saying it was left a little too wide open…for a contest, that’s all. And people got all huffy about what I said. So I defended myself. I never said anyone’s points were without merit. But apparently it was fair game to say mine were.
And I’ll ask you when you have forty years in the business if you think that experience means anything.
I’ve been where you are. You haven’t been where I am.
Not yet, anyway. So maybe instead of getting your back up, see if there’s something to be learned.
—Ricko
The only top four I thought were upgrades; Miami (Daniel G), Cinci (Dave D), Baltimore (Kevin G) and St. Louis (Gil C)
I liked Bowker’s concept for the Eagles, although I think the execution is not great. I think it needs to be simplified a bit. Other than that I liked Gaffney’s Ravens jersey, but only the black one. It seems O Ducks inspired but still shows some creativity.
[quote comment=”378880″][quote comment=”378877″][quote comment=”378876″]More of the Pirates crappy link.[/quote]
That patch stuff is weak. Pretty good yinzer rookie card of the Bobs though. Bob Moose from Export, PA and Bob Robertson from Frostburg, MD.[/quote]
“Patch hats” were quite commonly used in spring training back then (and before). Embroidery machines were not what they are today, and affixing a patch created flat onto the curved front of a hat was faster—and therefore less expensive—than direct embroidery onto the hat.
Here’s Ernie Banks in a Cubs patch hat from ’58 or ’59.
link
—Ricko[/quote]
And Hank Aaron wearing link from Spring Training in 1959 (ignore the caption, it’s only off by a decade).
Ricko, I see what you’re saying. Technically, the contest was for the jersey only (and consequently you should like mine!). But entrants were told that they could re-design the whole shebang. Tweak, overhaul, new colors, anything seemed to be fair game. Is that how I would have run the contest? No. But those were the ground rules, and I can’t fault anyone for pushing them to the limit.
On the other hand, we were told that we only had 50 words to describe our design. This is something I deal with in the theatre a lot – getting actors and designers to submit bios for the program – and if you let one person go over, you face a lot of grief from those who played by the rules. Looks like a lot of people went way over without any apparent penalty. Phil, any chance I could tweak my caption before next Sunday? ;)
Most of the Uni Tweaks are so horrendous that the designers likely will get picked up by Nike. (no, we don’t need wings on NFL jerseys). Still, the Jaguars updates and some of the non-winged Eagles updates (More green, less black) looked OK.
I like Todd Eizikowitz Giants uniform. Having been a Giants fan from the late 60’s on I thought Todd’s brang back the 70’s era with Zonka and the blue pants.
There’s one design tweak that stands out: Gil Garcia’s Rams design. The Rams 60s uniform was their best, and Gil does a great job of adding a little silver and getting back to that look.
Also improved are the Eagles looks that get rid of the Black. The Eagles current look is too “dense” due to having two dark colors; removing the black opens up the look.