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As I think most of you realize, I frequently hunt for old jerseys on eBay — baseball, mostly, plus some football, basketball, and hockey. Last week, though, I stumbled across this listing (scroll down a bit to see what it is).

Nice, right? So simple, so elemental. Sporty but not stupid. I own one retro cycling jersey, but it’s a throwback reproduction, not a vintage original. After coming across that one eBay listing, however, I started poking around.

It’s an appealing category. Cycling jerseys are basically short-sleeve sweaters, so they’re practical. The vintage ones tend to be made of wool, with chain-stitched detailing. Most of us, myself included, don’t know jackshit about cycling, so there are no issues about supporting the “wrong” team or whatever — you can just find something that looks cool and wear it, the end. If you end up learning something along the way (about cycling, about the sponsor, etc.), so much the better.

I haven’t bought any of these vintage jerseys yet, but it’s only a matter of time. Look how cool some of them are (in some cases you’ll have to scroll down to see the photos):

• I immediately fell in love with the front design on this one — but check out the back design! Definitely would have bid on it if I hadn’t been busy with the ’pox.

• Love the stripe treatment here.

• Too bad this one‘s listed as a kids’ size. Love the circular logos and the diagonal script.

• If you click on the “Enlarge Photo” tab for this one, you can see how thick and textured the chain-stitching is. Damn, it looks like you could use that “C” as a pillow!

• Why do the blue-and-yellow jerseys seem to have the best embroidery?

• Simple, basic, classic.

• Very unusual mod-type logo on the front of this one.

• Did you own a Schwinn bike when you were a kid? Then maybe you’d like this.

• Like the basic cycling jersey template but don’t like all the typography? Try this one.

A nice little sub-world to explore. I’ll be bidding soon.

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December Raffle: Our friends at SoccerPro.com have provided a $100 gift certificate for me to raffle off. To enter, send a blank e-mail with your name in the subject line to the new raffle address by 7pm eastern next Monday, December 7th. One entry per person, unless you’re enrolled in the Uni Watch Membership Program, in which case you can send four entries. I’ll announce the winner next Tuesday.

Important: For membership program enrollees, please number your four subject lines. In other words, the subject lines for your four entries should be “John Doe 1,” “John Doe 2,” and so on. Thanks.

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Ignore, as per usual: I have a few more LPs up for auction on eBay. The Kerouac box comes with its original cash register receipt from when I bought it in 1990, if that kind of thing excites you (and if it doesn’t excite you, there’s clearly something wrong with your excititude receptor, so get that checked out). Bid early and often, etc.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Boston College is switching to Under Armour (with thanks to Christian Eidt). ”¦ Rick Friedel got some good shots of Mike Garrett’s unusual crossbar attachment. Additional views here and here. ”¦ Oh man, how gorgeous is this? (Great find, Vince.) ”¦ Rahway High in New Jersey has an interesting helmet design. “I think they normally wear uni-numbered helmets, but the 2010 has to have some sort of story behind it,” says Bob Andrews. Anyone..? ”¦ Matt Brukman is desperately seeking a print of Robert Indiana’s MECCA Arena floor design. If anyone knows where to find one, give him a shout. ”¦ The Cincinnati Cyclones will be wearing Reds-themed jerseys this Saturday (with thanks to Adam Walter). ”¦ Hmmm, not often that you see a plastic facemask on a leather helmet. Frank Mercogliano took that shot during a recent visit to the College Football Hall of Fame. ”¦ Ladies and gentlemen, your Richmond Flying Squirrels. Nice to see that Steve Spurrier was wearing Bucs-striped wristbands, but the stripe pattern doesn’t match the one on the sleeves or helmet — boooooo (with thanks to Robert Leavell). ”¦ For all you hockey fans who love to debate the merits of “jersey” vs. “sweater,” here’s the solution: jerseys that really are sweaters. Acrylic, but still. I assume there’s a Reebok logo lurking somewhere on these things, but at least it doesn’t appear to be on the front (nice find by Jeremy Brahm). ”¦ The teams at Kerrville Tivy High in Texas are called the Antlers, so check out their basketball court — pretty cool (with thanks to Brad Griffin). ”¦ Here are some more good views of Jimmie Hall’s improvised earflap from the 1965 World Series (with thanks to James Huening). ”¦ Andy Moursund, who runs the excellent Historic Football Posters operation, sent along some scans from his vast collection of early NFL and MLB program covers. Amazing stuff. ”¦ The Blackhawks debuted their throwback alts (which are basically the same as last season’s Winter Classic jersey except that they’re now going with a retro tomahawk on the shoulders) last night. Lots of additional photos here. … Lots of you have been asking about this special issue of The Hockey News. Yes, it’s great — not least because it includes a nice feature by Uni Watch reader Jeff Barak, incidentally — and I plan to write about it soon. The delay has been due to (a) my inability to find a copy on the newsstand (yes, in NYC, it’s true) followed by (b) THN‘s inability to send me the copy I mail-ordered over a month ago. Finally got my copy two days ago and will have a write-up of it either later this week or early next.

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    Surprised you couldn’t find that issue in NYC. I think I’ve seen in both Borders and BN locally down the East Coast a little ways.

    Been awaiting your review of the issue.

    “… Oh man, how gorgeous is this? (Great find, Vince.) …”

    ***

    I’ll say it’s a great find, but what are the details? I think WCAU is a Phila station, which might explain the letter P on the defender’s jersey, but I can’t tell you the name of that defender. I know the player with the ball is Rick Barry, and I figure that his “The City” jersey is a current thing, not a throwback. But the rather bizarre and certainly unusual auditorium setting doesn’t explain itself… But here’s a guess: 1976 Bicentennial event, honoring America’s own game (invented by a Canadian)? But I have no confidence in so saying. Shit, when did Barry play? Help, Paul!

    The Rick Barry shot was taken at Philadelphia’s Convention Hall, the pre-Spectrum home of the Sixers.

    Compare it with this shot from the 1948 Republican Convention…
    link

    Here’s the exterior
    link

    Not sure of the story behind the numbers on Rahway HS’ helmets. If you look at the other side of the same kids helmet, he has another number, and its not his uniform number either. link

    The school they are playing, Arthur L. Johnson Regional, has a kind of uniform related quirk I remember from playing them back in my HS days. When they would come out for the coin toss, they would wear red berets instead of their helmets. Story was it was because they had a large jewish population, so they needed to cover their heads, so they wore the beret in lieu of a yarmulke. Not sure if that is/was true, but we usually ended up playing them the Friday of Rosh Hashanah, so our school had a half day and we played them at 2:30 in the afternoon so they could obey the “no work after sundown” rule. So it all kind of fit.

    I’ve seen the Hockey News special in at least two newsstands on the Amtrak level of Penn Station – it’s superb. And being under MSG, appropriate.

    Sadly, Philadelphia Convention Hall (Civic Center) met the wrecking ball a few years ago in the name of “progress”. Halfway through the demolition when the interior was exposed, it was quite painful to drive by.

    link

    I picked up one of those acrylic throwback sweaters in Montreal in 2007. A real thing of beauty — mine is a home Habs sweater, looks to be modeled after the mid-1940s.

    However, it’s the most static-causing sweater I’ve ever had. You know those electrified metal balls, where if you put your hand on a pair of them, your hair stands up and your physics teacher can touch you with the prongs of a plug and make a light bulb shine? My acrylic Habs sweater is like wearing that. The thing is an electrocution hazard.

    [quote comment=”364491″]”… Oh man, how gorgeous is this? (Great find, Vince.) …”

    ***

    I’ll say it’s a great find, but what are the details? I think WCAU is a Phila station, which might explain the letter P on the defender’s jersey, but I can’t tell you the name of that defender. I know the player with the ball is Rick Barry, and I figure that his “The City” jersey is a current thing, not a throwback. But the rather bizarre and certainly unusual auditorium setting doesn’t explain itself… But here’s a guess: 1976 Bicentennial event, honoring America’s own game (invented by a Canadian)? But I have no confidence in so saying. Shit, when did Barry play? Help, Paul![/quote]

    That is a beautiful photograph.

    I thought it was Rick Barry as well.

    I’ve been involved in the design of a number of gymnasium floors an because of that I do take interest in court design, but that Kerrville Tivy High is by far the most beautiful I’ve ever seen!

    Lots of franchise bizarreness in the Rick Barry pic:

    1) The San Fransico Warriors were originally the Philadelphia Warriors (1946-62) before relocating.

    2) Wilt Chamberlain was draft by the (Phila)Warriors in 1959. In 1964 the (SF) Warriors traded him to the Sixers. Barry was drafed with the first pick in ’65.

    3) The two teams played in the NBA Finals in ’66-’67. So, in a way, Philadelphia played itself in the finals.

    to someone who has one of those RBK Hockey Sweaters, what does the back look like? Is there a Reebok logo? If someone could snap a photo and post a link, I’d be very grateful, I’ve been meaning to pick up a Habs centennial throwback or two, but don’t want to look like a hypocrite with a giant rbk swoshy on the back

    Those hockey sweaters are great. I have two, and both are different.

    My Penguins one is a “Roger Edwards Vintage Sweater,” and has a subtle RBK job on the Vintage washtag on the bottom.

    The Maple Leafs one I have is different, because it only has a CCM badge on the lower back of the sweater, like CCM jerseys not too long ago.

    [quote comment=”364503″]I’ve been involved in the design of a number of gymnasium floors an because of that I do take interest in court design, but that Kerrville Tivy High is by far the most beautiful I’ve ever seen![/quote]

    i love the idea of the court! VERY clever!!! i just wish the deer was more logo, and less painting. know what i mean? too much detail, too real, something like that.

    [quote comment=”364508″]Those hockey sweaters are great. I have two, and both are different.

    My Penguins one is a “Roger Edwards Vintage Sweater,” and has a subtle RBK job on the Vintage washtag on the bottom.

    The Maple Leafs one I have is different, because it only has a CCM badge on the lower back of the sweater, like CCM jerseys not too long ago.[/quote]

    i was going to pick up a “st. pats” sweater… but i just cant get past the price!

    link

    This article is a few days old but a pair of interesting things in the pictures:

    -Love the shot of Danny Murtaugh in the locker room on a rocking chair with stirrups on and no shoes.

    -In the shot of him tipping his pillbox cap, is his lineup card (or some sort of card) inside his hat?

    As an actual resident of Richmond, I’m conflicted…I hated, hated, HATED the way the Braves (our former team) treated Richmond completely as an afterthought, fielding a team that wore uniforms almost identical to the ones the MLB team wore. That being said, “Flying Squirrels” is exactly the kind of hacky, lowest-common-denominator team name that I’ve come to expect from minor-league ball, a name with all the dignity and staying power of the Macarena. I can’t imagine we’ll be celebrating 20 years of Flying Squirrels baseball in 2030.

    On the logos: the cartoony, full-body squirrel is every bit as bad as I feared it would be, and the wordmarks are uninspired but inoffensive. I gotta admit, though, I actually kinda dig the acorn with the “R” on it…I might even wear a cap with that on it!

    My guess is the 2010 on the Rahway helmet it just a shout out to the seniors that will be graduating in this June in 2010. Not sure but just my guess.

    If you look closely at the Blackhawks’ breezers from last night you’ll notice that they’ve got a shell pulled over their regular breezers. You can see it in this photo by looking at the cuff, where you can see the tip of the normal white/red/white stripes sticking out from underneath the shell. link

    Probably they do it so that players can keep their normal breezers for comfort and still have a new look.

    [quote comment=”364506″][quote comment=”364502″][quote comment=”364501″]Check out Phil’s DIY t-shirt:

    link

    link

    that’s a good one!

    doesn’t compare to your link tho[/quote]

    Speaking of DIY Snuggies, my GF was once a member of the Texas Longhorn band. I’ve been hoping that a burnt orange Snuggie would come out so that I could sew on the bric-a-brac to make it look like her old link. They make a Texas Longhorn Snuggie, but it has logos all over it.

    Naturally, she hates it when I tell people that she was once in the Fightin’ Porter Waggoner Marching Band…

    [quote comment=”364517″][quote comment=”364506″][quote comment=”364502″][quote comment=”364501″]Check out Phil’s DIY t-shirt:

    link

    link

    that’s a good one!

    doesn’t compare to your link tho[/quote]

    Speaking of DIY Snuggies, my GF was once a member of the Texas Longhorn band. I’ve been hoping that a burnt orange Snuggie would come out so that I could sew on the bric-a-brac to make it look like her old link. They make a Texas Longhorn Snuggie, but it has logos all over it.

    Naturally, she hates it when I tell people that she was once in the Fightin’ Porter Waggoner Marching Band…[/quote]

    Whoops — fixed link.

    [quote comment=”364492″]The Rick Barry shot was taken at Philadelphia’s Convention Hall, the pre-Spectrum home of the Sixers.

    Compare it with this shot from the 1948 Republican Convention…
    link

    Here’s the exterior
    link
    [quote comment=”364496″]Sadly, Philadelphia Convention Hall (Civic Center) met the wrecking ball a few years ago in the name of “progress”. Halfway through the demolition when the interior was exposed, it was quite painful to drive by.

    link
    [quote comment=”364504″]Lots of franchise bizarreness in the Rick Barry pic:

    1) The San Fransico Warriors were originally the Philadelphia Warriors (1946-62) before relocating.

    2) Wilt Chamberlain was draft by the (Phila)Warriors in 1959. In 1964 the (SF) Warriors traded him to the Sixers. Barry was drafed with the first pick in ’65.

    3) The two teams played in the NBA Finals in ’66-’67. So, in a way, Philadelphia played itself in the finals.[/quote]

    ***

    God, what a great group! Thanks, fellas…

    Kind of a fun video of the Mizzou football team seeing their rivalry (riflery) uniforms for the first time, plus some game footage that focuses on the unis.

    link

    Regarding the Rahway High School helmet mystery:

    According to MaxPreps, #3 is Giovanni Smith, a senior captain, slated to graduate in the Spring of 2010.

    link

    All of the other players who have visible numbers,are both without helmet decals and are from differing classes.

    On November 7th, Mr. Smith did not have decals on the either side of his helmet.

    left:
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    right:
    link

    Nothing last year.

    link

    [quote comment=”364521″]Kind of a fun video of the Mizzou football team seeing their rivalry (riflery) uniforms for the first time, plus some game footage that focuses on the unis.

    link

    powers will kill me, but i LOVE that helmet!

    to those of us that long for the day the script returns to Pitt uniforms, we normally think of this in terms of the football helmet.

    But shots of the logo on the basketball uni are becoming increasingly rare, save for Jerome Lane broken backboard photos.

    The PG ran a shot from the ’96 City Game today:

    link

    The Blackhawks debuted their throwback alts (which are basically the same as last season’s Winter Classic jersey except that they’re now going with a retro tomahawk on the shoulders) last night.

    Technically they’re not throwback tomahawks. Before the unveiled the new jersey, I did a little investigating into the history of the tomahawk patch which I posted in a Blackhawks forum link. Long story short, the Blackhawks tomahawk patch didn’t debut until long after the jerseys on which the new alt is modeled. The tomahawks have had a few changes in color but have always worked within the red/white/green/yellow color scheme. The new ones use the retro color palette, but that palette is completely new to the tomahawk patch. Personally, I think it looks great and particularly love how the beige X’s of the tomahawks stand out from a distance.

    Excellent photo of Spurrier that I had not seen.

    I think I had a pair of those wristbands as well, back in the day.

    The orange numbers made it tough to tell who was who in ’76….not that many names were worth remembering.

    [quote comment=”364523″][quote comment=”364521″]Kind of a fun video of the Mizzou football team seeing their rivalry (riflery) uniforms for the first time, plus some game footage that focuses on the unis.

    link

    powers will kill me, but i LOVE that helmet![/quote]

    Huh? I liked both the Mizzou and Kansas helmets!

    [quote comment=”364527″][quote comment=”364523″][quote comment=”364521″]Kind of a fun video of the Mizzou football team seeing their rivalry (riflery) uniforms for the first time, plus some game footage that focuses on the unis.

    link

    powers will kill me, but i LOVE that helmet![/quote]

    Huh? I liked both the Mizzou and Kansas helmets![/quote]

    what are your thoughts on the steelers helmets? lol

    kidding, i know they’re different treatments!

    “Last week, though, I stumbled across this listing”…

    I LOVE the Royal/Banana (as they call it in U.K.) combo! Sorta looks like my Tottenham Hotspur Away shirt from ’05/’06 link
    Those Kappa shirts were cut like Cycling Jerseys! I wear a size 52, the shirt is a 4XL AND it fit me like a rubber band around a water balloon! (sorry for the mental image) Anyway, what a resemblance, huh?

    Terence M.K.

    Not generally a fan of cycling jerseys, but if I had to have one, it would be this one found in the eBay recommended section:
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    [quote comment=”364530″]Not generally a fan of cycling jerseys, but if I had to have one, it would be this one found in the eBay recommended section:
    link
    link

    [quote comment=”364531″][quote comment=”364530″]Not generally a fan of cycling jerseys, but if I had to have one, it would be this one found in the eBay recommended section:
    link
    link

    Never mind…

    It was white on top, yellow on the bottom, separarted by a light blue stripe and a dark blue stripe. No lettering, just a nice clean design.

    [quote comment=”364532″][quote comment=”364531″][quote comment=”364530″]Not generally a fan of cycling jerseys, but if I had to have one, it would be this one found in the eBay recommended section:
    link
    link

    Never mind…

    It was white on top, yellow on the bottom, separarted by a light blue stripe and a dark blue stripe. No lettering, just a nice clean design.[/quote]

    here jim, let me fix that for ya

    [quote comment=”364525″]The Blackhawks debuted their throwback alts (which are basically the same as last season’s Winter Classic jersey except that they’re now going with a retro tomahawk on the shoulders) last night.

    Technically they’re not throwback tomahawks. Before the unveiled the new jersey, I did a little investigating into the history of the tomahawk patch which I posted in a Blackhawks forum link. Long story short, the Blackhawks tomahawk patch didn’t debut until long after the jerseys on which the new alt is modeled. The tomahawks have had a few changes in color but have always worked within the red/white/green/yellow color scheme. The new ones use the retro color palette, but that palette is completely new to the tomahawk patch. Personally, I think it looks great and particularly love how the beige X’s of the tomahawks stand out from a distance.[/quote]

    The 1955-56 red Black Hawks jersey featured the crossed tomahawks that are link to what is being worn on the alternates.

    [quote comment=”364535″][quote comment=”364525″]The Blackhawks debuted their throwback alts (which are basically the same as last season’s Winter Classic jersey except that they’re now going with a retro tomahawk on the shoulders) last night.

    Technically they’re not throwback tomahawks. Before the unveiled the new jersey, I did a little investigating into the history of the tomahawk patch which I posted in a Blackhawks forum link. Long story short, the Blackhawks tomahawk patch didn’t debut until long after the jerseys on which the new alt is modeled. The tomahawks have had a few changes in color but have always worked within the red/white/green/yellow color scheme. The new ones use the retro color palette, but that palette is completely new to the tomahawk patch. Personally, I think it looks great and particularly love how the beige X’s of the tomahawks stand out from a distance.[/quote]

    The 1955-56 red Black Hawks jersey featured the crossed tomahawks that are link to what is being worn on the alternates.[/quote]

    I should finish what I was thinking but clearly was not writing.

    The new colours definitely mean it’s not a reproduction, but the style is that of the first crossed tomahawk logo.

    [quote comment=”364533″][quote comment=”364528″]
    what are your thoughts on the steelers helmets?[/quote]

    i love link[/quote]

    thanks phil!!! that comment just brightened up my tired morning!

    i’d like to do a full size version (maybe a slightly smaller center stripe). anyone know where i can get a cheap helmet? donation? lol

    I didn’t realize Big Star put out a link in the 70. I thought it was just “#1 Record” then “Radio City” and nothing else until the early 90s.

    Ya learn something new here all the time.

    [quote comment=”364514″]As an actual resident of Richmond, I’m conflicted…I hated, hated, HATED the way the Braves (our former team) treated Richmond completely as an afterthought, fielding a team that wore uniforms almost identical to the ones the MLB team wore. That being said, “Flying Squirrels” is exactly the kind of hacky, lowest-common-denominator team name that I’ve come to expect from minor-league ball, a name with all the dignity and staying power of the Macarena. I can’t imagine we’ll be celebrating 20 years of Flying Squirrels baseball in 2030.

    On the logos: the cartoony, full-body squirrel is every bit as bad as I feared it would be, and the wordmarks are uninspired but inoffensive. I gotta admit, though, I actually kinda dig the acorn with the “R” on it…I might even wear a cap with that on it![/quote]

    I think I’ve figured out why I don’t like a lot of current logos and wording – too many jagged edges. link
    I feel as if I could cut my hand on those Richmond logos. This actually could have been a good idea, but it just seems over-designed.

    [quote comment=”364534″][quote comment=”364532″][quote comment=”364531″][quote comment=”364530″]Not generally a fan of cycling jerseys, but if I had to have one, it would be this one found in the eBay recommended section:
    link
    link

    Never mind…

    It was white on top, yellow on the bottom, separarted by a light blue stripe and a dark blue stripe. No lettering, just a nice clean design.[/quote]

    here jim, link[/quote]

    Yes. Thanks!

    [quote comment=”364537″][quote comment=”364535″][quote comment=”364525″]The Blackhawks debuted their throwback alts (which are basically the same as last season’s Winter Classic jersey except that they’re now going with a retro tomahawk on the shoulders) last night.

    Technically they’re not throwback tomahawks. Before the unveiled the new jersey, I did a little investigating into the history of the tomahawk patch which I posted in a Blackhawks forum link. Long story short, the Blackhawks tomahawk patch didn’t debut until long after the jerseys on which the new alt is modeled. The tomahawks have had a few changes in color but have always worked within the red/white/green/yellow color scheme. The new ones use the retro color palette, but that palette is completely new to the tomahawk patch. Personally, I think it looks great and particularly love how the beige X’s of the tomahawks stand out from a distance.[/quote]

    The 1955-56 red Black Hawks jersey featured the crossed tomahawks that are link to what is being worn on the alternates.[/quote]

    I should finish what I was thinking but clearly was not writing.

    The new colours definitely mean it’s not a reproduction, but the style is that of the first crossed tomahawk logo.[/quote]

    The Red C, White Shaft, Red blade tomahawk was the first design. Having seen the current alt patches in person the design is identical to the current tomahawk, its just been recolored to look like the 1955 one. Effectively the Hawks are taking serveral elements from their history to create something new. I suppose its similar to what the Bruins did when they switched to the edge system.

    [quote comment=”364540″]I didn’t realize Big Star put out a link in the 70. I thought it was just “#1 Record” then “Radio City” and nothing else until the early 90s.

    Ya learn something new here all the time.[/quote]

    Third (sometimes referred to as Sister Lovers, which was supposed to be its original title and was later used for several different reissues of the record) is a doozy of an album. Very dark, very cryptic. Chilton was basically descending into alcoholism while making it, so it’s very different than the first two Big Star LPs. Contains some of his very best work, though. Different sound, but spectacular songs. I have it on CD, so I’ve decided to it’s finally time to part with the vinyl version.

    [quote comment=”364542″]
    I think I’ve figured out why I don’t like a lot of current logos and wording – too many jagged edges. link
    I feel as if I could cut my hand on those Richmond logos. This actually could have been a good idea, but it just seems over-designed.[/quote]

    It’s odd how jagged they all are, isn’t it…makes ’em all kinda blend in and look the same. Thing is, I like how the line in the “R” kinda forms a squirrel’s tail, and I think they were going for the same thing with the wordmarks, but it ended up just looking like a band-saw!

    Hey Paul! Looks like Keith Olbermann is trying to steal your job! Look about halfway down in his MLB blog: THE UNEXPECTED BENEFIT OF WATCHING MLB NET\’S \’ALL-TIME GAMES\’

    link

    [quote comment=”364524″]to those of us that long for the day the script returns to Pitt uniforms, we normally think of this in terms of the football helmet.

    But shots of the logo on the basketball uni are becoming increasingly rare, save for Jerome Lane broken backboard photos.

    The PG ran a shot from the ’96 City Game today:

    link

    Oh man, I’d definitely wear both of those unis!

    Not too tight, not too baggy…just right. And I like the contrast in styles. One’s a classic, the other is snazzy but not over-the-top.

    I never got to see a basketball game at the (I Still Call It The Civic) Arena. I always wanted to go there, and to the Palestra in Philly.

    This line from the article by the Duquesne coach,
    “That place has a distinct smell, a distinct feel that you just don’t get in other arenas.”
    reminds me of my first Penguins game there. I bought some fries, and usually people ask if you want ketchup. When the vendor said, “You want gravy with those?” I thought, oh yeah, I KNOW I’m in Pittsburgh. Now when I get fries and gravy at Eat’NPark, the smell still reminds me of the Civic Arena.

    [quote comment=”364549″][quote comment=”364524″]to those of us that long for the day the script returns to Pitt uniforms, we normally think of this in terms of the football helmet.

    But shots of the logo on the basketball uni are becoming increasingly rare, save for Jerome Lane broken backboard photos.

    The PG ran a shot from the ’96 City Game today:

    link

    Oh man, I’d definitely wear both of those unis!

    Not too tight, not too baggy…just right. And I like the contrast in styles. One’s a classic, the other is snazzy but not over-the-top.

    I never got to see a basketball game at the (I Still Call It The Civic) Arena. I always wanted to go there, and to the Palestra in Philly.

    This line from the article by the Duquesne coach,
    “That place has a distinct smell, a distinct feel that you just don’t get in other arenas.”
    reminds me of my first Penguins game there. I bought some fries, and usually people ask if you want ketchup. When the vendor said, “You want gravy with those?” I thought, oh yeah, I KNOW I’m in Pittsburgh. Now when I get fries and gravy at Eat’NPark, the smell still reminds me of the Civic Arena.[/quote]
    I saw Dejuan Blair win the City Championship with Schenley over Allderidice in his senior year. I think that’s the only basketball I ever saw in the arena. My brother was a pitt student during the days when big games (Georgetown, for one) were held at the arena. I don’t think he really had a feeling about the place for hoops one way or the other. But he didn’t feel entrenched with the Fieldhouse either.

    [quote comment=”364506″][quote comment=”364502″][quote comment=”364501″]Check out Phil’s DIY t-shirt:

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    link

    that’s a good one!

    doesn’t compare to your link tho[/quote]

    Nice Snuggie there, Matt.
    It’s so…you.

    Reminds me of this (well, you’d need the bigger hat, of course).
    link

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”364552″][quote comment=”364506″][quote comment=”364502″][quote comment=”364501″]Check out Phil’s DIY t-shirt:

    link

    link

    that’s a good one!

    doesn’t compare to your link tho[/quote]

    Nice Snuggie there, Matt.
    It’s so…you.

    Reminds me of this (well, you’d need the bigger hat, of course).
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]

    But what if it turned out to be a sorting hat…and it put you in house of Adidias?
    omg.

    [quote comment=”364552″][quote comment=”364506″][quote comment=”364502″][quote comment=”364501″]Check out Phil’s DIY t-shirt:

    link

    link

    that’s a good one!

    doesn’t compare to your link tho[/quote]

    Nice Snuggie there, Matt.
    It’s so…you.

    Reminds me of this (well, you’d need the bigger hat, of course).
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]
    is that Powers or Jason Kendall?

    [quote comment=”364551″]Bob Smizik has a pretty good blog posting of some of his favorite Civic/Mellon Arena basketball memories:

    link

    Good stuff. Now someone needs to write about indoor soccer memories of the Pittsburgh Spirit at the Arena. Anyone?

    Do you any of you have the links to the jerseys the US soccer team will be wearing in the World Cup?

    [quote comment=”364554″][quote comment=”364552″][quote comment=”364506″][quote comment=”364502″][quote comment=”364501″]Check out Phil’s DIY t-shirt:

    link

    link

    that’s a good one!

    doesn’t compare to your link tho[/quote]

    Nice Snuggie there, Matt.
    It’s so…you.

    Reminds me of this (well, you’d need the bigger hat, of course).
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]
    is that Powers or Jason Kendall?[/quote]

    Trust me. It’s Powers.

    what is so unusual about Mike Garrett’s cross bar attachment?
    That like the “U” bar or “bull ring” (see Csonka) were common place.
    When i was a student equipment manager at Youngstown State we had alot of that stuff in our backroom.
    -Stoops

    [quote comment=”364553″][quote comment=”364552″][quote comment=”364506″][quote comment=”364502″][quote comment=”364501″]Check out Phil’s DIY t-shirt:

    link

    link

    that’s a good one!

    doesn’t compare to your link tho[/quote]

    Nice Snuggie there, Matt.
    It’s so…you.

    Reminds me of this (well, you’d need the bigger hat, of course).
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]

    But what if it turned out to be a sorting hat…and it put you in house of Adidias?
    omg.[/quote]

    No worries…
    link

    [quote comment=”364557″][quote comment=”364554″][quote comment=”364552″][quote comment=”364506″][quote comment=”364502″][quote comment=”364501″]Check out Phil’s DIY t-shirt:

    link

    link

    that’s a good one!

    doesn’t compare to your link tho[/quote]

    Nice Snuggie there, Matt.
    It’s so…you.

    Reminds me of this (well, you’d need the bigger hat, of course).
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]
    is that Powers or Jason Kendall?[/quote]

    Trust me. It’s Powers.[/quote]

    You sure?

    link

    My favorite program cover from Andy Moursund’s collection:
    link
    More appropriate for a Giants game, but I still like it.

    [quote comment=”364561″]My favorite program cover from Andy Moursund’s collection:
    link
    More appropriate for a Giants game, but I still like it.[/quote]

    I have never seen the end zone striping originate from the center like a sunburst.

    [quote comment=”364562″][quote comment=”364561″]My favorite program cover from Andy Moursund’s collection:
    link
    More appropriate for a Giants game, but I still like it.[/quote]

    I have never seen the end zone striping originate from the center like a sunburst.[/quote]

    link

    I’m much more accustomed to seeing the slant.

    link

    Not sure if anyone else noticed, but when ESPN.com initally used the former 76ers logo (last years gold script) in their feature box of the website.
    Before I was able to get a screencap they changed to the current logo.

    [quote comment=”364561″]My favorite program cover from Andy Moursund’s collection:
    link
    More appropriate for a Giants game, but I still like it.[/quote]

    FWIW, that was the first game ever played at Lambeau Field.

    [quote comment=”364550″][quote comment=”364549″][quote comment=”364524″]to those of us that long for the day the script returns to Pitt uniforms, we normally think of this in terms of the football helmet.

    But shots of the logo on the basketball uni are becoming increasingly rare, save for Jerome Lane broken backboard photos.

    The PG ran a shot from the ’96 City Game today:

    link

    Oh man, I’d definitely wear both of those unis!

    Not too tight, not too baggy…just right. And I like the contrast in styles. One’s a classic, the other is snazzy but not over-the-top.

    I never got to see a basketball game at the (I Still Call It The Civic) Arena. I always wanted to go there, and to the Palestra in Philly.

    This line from the article by the Duquesne coach,
    “That place has a distinct smell, a distinct feel that you just don’t get in other arenas.”
    reminds me of my first Penguins game there. I bought some fries, and usually people ask if you want ketchup. When the vendor said, “You want gravy with those?” I thought, oh yeah, I KNOW I’m in Pittsburgh. Now when I get fries and gravy at Eat’NPark, the smell still reminds me of the Civic Arena.[/quote]
    I saw Dejuan Blair win the City Championship with Schenley over Allderidice in his senior year. I think that’s the only basketball I ever saw in the arena. My brother was a pitt student during the days when big games (Georgetown, for one) were held at the arena. I don’t think he really had a feeling about the place for hoops one way or the other. But he didn’t feel entrenched with the Fieldhouse either.[/quote]

    c’mon?!?! am i the only loser that went down to check out the globetrotters in my youth?

    [quote comment=”364562″][quote comment=”364561″]My favorite program cover from Andy Moursund’s collection:
    link
    More appropriate for a Giants game, but I still like it.[/quote]

    I have never seen the end zone striping originate from the center like a sunburst.[/quote]

    Paul,

    That NY Giants book I sent you has a picture of the Polo Grounds towards the front. Do the endzones have this same striping? I can’t remember.

    [quote comment=”364568″][quote comment=”364550″][quote comment=”364549″][quote comment=”364524″]to those of us that long for the day the script returns to Pitt uniforms, we normally think of this in terms of the football helmet.

    But shots of the logo on the basketball uni are becoming increasingly rare, save for Jerome Lane broken backboard photos.

    The PG ran a shot from the ’96 City Game today:

    link

    Oh man, I’d definitely wear both of those unis!

    Not too tight, not too baggy…just right. And I like the contrast in styles. One’s a classic, the other is snazzy but not over-the-top.

    I never got to see a basketball game at the (I Still Call It The Civic) Arena. I always wanted to go there, and to the Palestra in Philly.

    This line from the article by the Duquesne coach,
    “That place has a distinct smell, a distinct feel that you just don’t get in other arenas.”
    reminds me of my first Penguins game there. I bought some fries, and usually people ask if you want ketchup. When the vendor said, “You want gravy with those?” I thought, oh yeah, I KNOW I’m in Pittsburgh. Now when I get fries and gravy at Eat’NPark, the smell still reminds me of the Civic Arena.[/quote]
    I saw Dejuan Blair win the City Championship with Schenley over Allderidice in his senior year. I think that’s the only basketball I ever saw in the arena. My brother was a pitt student during the days when big games (Georgetown, for one) were held at the arena. I don’t think he really had a feeling about the place for hoops one way or the other. But he didn’t feel entrenched with the Fieldhouse either.[/quote]

    c’mon?!?! am i the only loser that went down to check out the globetrotters in my youth?[/quote]
    absolutely not, just never saw ’em at the Mellon Arena. But I was there EVERY YEAR for their game at the War Memorial in J-town.

    [quote comment=”364558″]what is so unusual about Mike Garrett’s cross bar attachment?
    That like the “U” bar or “bull ring” (see Csonka) were common place.
    When i was a student equipment manager at Youngstown State we had alot of that stuff in our backroom.
    -Stoops[/quote]
    To me, what’s unusual about it is that it looks as though it was intended to be attahced to link with the single vertical bar rather than the link with the two vertical bars.

    [quote comment=”364570″][quote comment=”364568″][quote comment=”364550″][quote comment=”364549″][quote comment=”364524″]to those of us that long for the day the script returns to Pitt uniforms, we normally think of this in terms of the football helmet.

    But shots of the logo on the basketball uni are becoming increasingly rare, save for Jerome Lane broken backboard photos.

    The PG ran a shot from the ’96 City Game today:

    link

    Oh man, I’d definitely wear both of those unis!

    Not too tight, not too baggy…just right. And I like the contrast in styles. One’s a classic, the other is snazzy but not over-the-top.

    I never got to see a basketball game at the (I Still Call It The Civic) Arena. I always wanted to go there, and to the Palestra in Philly.

    This line from the article by the Duquesne coach,
    “That place has a distinct smell, a distinct feel that you just don’t get in other arenas.”
    reminds me of my first Penguins game there. I bought some fries, and usually people ask if you want ketchup. When the vendor said, “You want gravy with those?” I thought, oh yeah, I KNOW I’m in Pittsburgh. Now when I get fries and gravy at Eat’NPark, the smell still reminds me of the Civic Arena.[/quote]
    I saw Dejuan Blair win the City Championship with Schenley over Allderidice in his senior year. I think that’s the only basketball I ever saw in the arena. My brother was a pitt student during the days when big games (Georgetown, for one) were held at the arena. I don’t think he really had a feeling about the place for hoops one way or the other. But he didn’t feel entrenched with the Fieldhouse either.[/quote]

    c’mon?!?! am i the only loser that went down to check out the globetrotters in my youth?[/quote]
    absolutely not, just never saw ’em at the Mellon Arena. But I was there EVERY YEAR for their game at the War Memorial in J-town.[/quote]

    Every year, the North Rockland “Dream Team” plays a charity basketball game against the Harlem Rockets, an offshoot of the Globetrotters.

    link

    Good times, for sure, although not in Pittsburgh.

    [quote comment=”364571″][quote comment=”364558″]what is so unusual about Mike Garrett’s cross bar attachment?
    That like the “U” bar or “bull ring” (see Csonka) were common place.
    When i was a student equipment manager at Youngstown State we had alot of that stuff in our backroom.
    -Stoops[/quote]
    To me, what’s unusual about it is that it looks as though it was intended to be attahced to link with the single vertical bar rather than the link with the two vertical bars.[/quote]
    link on that Oregon helmet.

    [quote comment=”364573″][quote comment=”364571″][quote comment=”364558″]what is so unusual about Mike Garrett’s cross bar attachment?
    That like the “U” bar or “bull ring” (see Csonka) were common place.
    When i was a student equipment manager at Youngstown State we had alot of that stuff in our backroom.
    -Stoops[/quote]
    To me, what’s unusual about it is that it looks as though it was intended to be attahced to link with the single vertical bar rather than the link with the two vertical bars.[/quote]
    link on that Oregon helmet.[/quote]

    That Longhorn has a mouthpiece in, right?

    [quote comment=”364544″]
    The Red C, White Shaft, Red blade tomahawk was the first design. Having seen the current alt patches in person the design is identical to the current tomahawk, its just been recolored to look like the 1955 one. Effectively the Hawks are taking serveral elements from their history to create something new. I suppose its similar to what the Bruins did when they switched to the edge system.[/quote]

    They’re similar, but they have enough differences that I consider them different.

    This is the link. This is the one they currently use on their link.

    To me, I consider them to be different simply because the “C” in the background is significantly different.

    [quote comment=”364574″][quote comment=”364573″][quote comment=”364571″][quote comment=”364558″]what is so unusual about Mike Garrett’s cross bar attachment?
    That like the “U” bar or “bull ring” (see Csonka) were common place.
    When i was a student equipment manager at Youngstown State we had alot of that stuff in our backroom.
    -Stoops[/quote]
    To me, what’s unusual about it is that it looks as though it was intended to be attahced to link with the single vertical bar rather than the link with the two vertical bars.[/quote]
    link on that Oregon helmet.[/quote]

    That Longhorn has a mouthpiece in, right?[/quote]

    Forrest played for ‘Bama, I didn’t know that Bubba was a ‘Horn!

    link

    link

    um, yeah, schwinn as a kid. what if i still ride a 1973 chicago made steel frame tank? it is a purdy orange, and it still even has the original grip tape. maybe i should start the hunt for something to go with it. no, you know what i want is one of those circa 1976 breaking away cutter styled cycling helmets. anybody know where to get one of those? oh and any of you who find my 10-speed antiquated, and ride the single gear, but can’t balance right proper so you ride ever so slowly out into busy city intersections because you are to cool to stand straddled and wait for the light, bite me. one of these days i am going to accidentally clip one of you dorks who can’t sit still. step of the pedals friend. step, off, the pedals. buh. sorry for the tangent, but does anybody else get annoyed with that crap? i rode my bike up the bar a couple months ago, and one of those bike messenger types just about creamed over my bicycle, then added it would make a perfect single gear, i almost laid that patchouli wearin’ shit bird out then and there. what if there is a hill hippie? what if there is a hill?

    My dad went to the first AAFC game between the Browns and Miami Seahawks. Too bad he did not get or save this program from it.

    link

    Some great program covers today.

    [quote comment=”364577″]um, yeah, schwinn as a kid. what if i still ride a 1973 chicago made steel frame tank? it is a purdy orange, and it still even has the original grip tape. maybe i should start the hunt for something to go with it. no, you know what i want is one of those circa 1976 breaking away cutter styled cycling helmets. anybody know where to get one of those? oh and any of you who find my 10-speed antiquated, and ride the single gear, but can’t balance right proper so you ride ever so slowly out into busy city intersections because you are to cool to stand straddled and wait for the light, bite me. one of these days i am going to accidentally clip one of you dorks who can’t sit still. step of the pedals friend. step, off, the pedals. buh. sorry for the tangent, but does anybody else get annoyed with that crap? i rode my bike up the bar a couple months ago, and one of those bike messenger types just about creamed over my bicycle, then added it would make a perfect single gear, i almost laid that patchouli wearin’ shit bird out then and there. what if there is a hill hippie? what if there is a hill?[/quote]

    i hate that “single gear” love too. no joke when i say i ride up hill both to and from work.

    snap some pics of your bike for us marshall…

    [quote comment=”364577″]um, yeah, schwinn as a kid. what if i still ride a 1973 chicago made steel frame tank? it is a purdy orange, and it still even has the original grip tape. maybe i should start the hunt for something to go with it. no, you know what i want is one of those circa 1976 breaking away cutter styled cycling helmets. anybody know where to get one of those? oh and any of you who find my 10-speed antiquated, and ride the single gear, but can’t balance right proper so you ride ever so slowly out into busy city intersections because you are to cool to stand straddled and wait for the light, bite me. one of these days i am going to accidentally clip one of you dorks who can’t sit still. step of the pedals friend. step, off, the pedals. buh. sorry for the tangent, but does anybody else get annoyed with that crap? i rode my bike up the bar a couple months ago, and one of those bike messenger types just about creamed over my bicycle, then added it would make a perfect single gear, i almost laid that patchouli wearin’ shit bird out then and there. what if there is a hill hippie? what if there is a hill?[/quote]

    you want one of these bad boys or this shit

    [quote comment=”364576″][quote comment=”364574″][quote comment=”364573″][quote comment=”364571″][quote comment=”364558″]what is so unusual about Mike Garrett’s cross bar attachment?
    That like the “U” bar or “bull ring” (see Csonka) were common place.
    When i was a student equipment manager at Youngstown State we had alot of that stuff in our backroom.
    -Stoops[/quote]
    To me, what’s unusual about it is that it looks as though it was intended to be attahced to link with the single vertical bar rather than the link with the two vertical bars.[/quote]
    link on that Oregon helmet.[/quote]

    That Longhorn has a mouthpiece in, right?[/quote]

    Forrest played for ‘Bama, I didn’t know that Bubba was a ‘Horn!

    link

    link
    That’s link, fool.

    And his mouthpiece is link in that pic.

    [quote comment=”364577″]i almost laid that patchouli wearin’ shit bird out then and there.[/quote]
    The patchouli alone is grounds for an ass-kicking.

    Memo to anyone who still believes that crap masks ANY odors. It does not. It merely exacerbates them by applying an additional layer of stench.

    [quote comment=”364580″][quote comment=”364577″]um, yeah, schwinn as a kid. what if i still ride a 1973 chicago made steel frame tank? it is a purdy orange, and it still even has the original grip tape. maybe i should start the hunt for something to go with it. no, you know what i want is one of those circa 1976 breaking away cutter styled cycling helmets. anybody know where to get one of those? oh and any of you who find my 10-speed antiquated, and ride the single gear, but can’t balance right proper so you ride ever so slowly out into busy city intersections because you are to cool to stand straddled and wait for the light, bite me. one of these days i am going to accidentally clip one of you dorks who can’t sit still. step of the pedals friend. step, off, the pedals. buh. sorry for the tangent, but does anybody else get annoyed with that crap? i rode my bike up the bar a couple months ago, and one of those bike messenger types just about creamed over my bicycle, then added it would make a perfect single gear, i almost laid that patchouli wearin’ shit bird out then and there. what if there is a hill hippie? what if there is a hill?[/quote]

    you want link or link[/quote]

    yes!! “this shit” i have been looking for one for years. then all i need is the basket with the flowers on it, and i am the coolest cucumber in the salad.

    working on it ryco, needed a break from envelope stuffing anyway. but all i have is a phone camera, so it’ll take a sec.

    [quote comment=”364581″][quote comment=”364576″][quote comment=”364574″][quote comment=”364573″][quote comment=”364571″][quote comment=”364558″]what is so unusual about Mike Garrett’s cross bar attachment?
    That like the “U” bar or “bull ring” (see Csonka) were common place.
    When i was a student equipment manager at Youngstown State we had alot of that stuff in our backroom.
    -Stoops[/quote]
    To me, what’s unusual about it is that it looks as though it was intended to be attahced to link with the single vertical bar rather than the link with the two vertical bars.[/quote]
    link on that Oregon helmet.[/quote]

    That Longhorn has a mouthpiece in, right?[/quote]

    Forrest played for ‘Bama, I didn’t know that Bubba was a ‘Horn!

    link

    link
    That’s link, fool.

    And his mouthpiece is link in that pic.[/quote]

    All kidding aside, was “Bubba/Tyler Rose” one of the first players to wear a high hook-up chin strap?

    In this pic, Bubba Rose looks as if he is wearing the same “Largent” turfs that we were wondering about.

    To continue that thinking…Joe Morris later wore turf shoes of that same line:

    [quote comment=”364585″]In this pic, Bubba Rose looks as if he is wearing the same “Largent” turfs that we were wondering about.

    To continue that thinking…Joe Morris later wore turf shoes of that same line:[/quote]

    Earl Campbell. 34″ thighs, supposedly.
    Damn, that’s the size of my WAIST.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”364583″][quote comment=”364580″][quote comment=”364577″]um, yeah, schwinn as a kid. what if i still ride a 1973 chicago made steel frame tank? it is a purdy orange, and it still even has the original grip tape. maybe i should start the hunt for something to go with it. no, you know what i want is one of those circa 1976 breaking away cutter styled cycling helmets. anybody know where to get one of those? oh and any of you who find my 10-speed antiquated, and ride the single gear, but can’t balance right proper so you ride ever so slowly out into busy city intersections because you are to cool to stand straddled and wait for the light, bite me. one of these days i am going to accidentally clip one of you dorks who can’t sit still. step of the pedals friend. step, off, the pedals. buh. sorry for the tangent, but does anybody else get annoyed with that crap? i rode my bike up the bar a couple months ago, and one of those bike messenger types just about creamed over my bicycle, then added it would make a perfect single gear, i almost laid that patchouli wearin’ shit bird out then and there. what if there is a hill hippie? what if there is a hill?[/quote]

    you want link or link[/quote]

    yes!! “this shit” i have been looking for one for years. then all i need is the basket with the flowers on it, and i am the coolest cucumber in the salad.

    working on it ryco, needed a break from envelope stuffing anyway. but all i have is a phone camera, so it’ll take a sec.[/quote]

    you may scratch your head at first… but i saw someone wearing this on an old school bike, and it looked GREAT!!! i’ve been looking for an affordable one ever since (well, looking off and on). this is what you should get:

    link

    [quote comment=”364585″]In this pic, Bubba Rose looks as if he is wearing the same “Largent” turfs that we were wondering about.
    link

    To continue that thinking…Joe Morris later wore turf shoes of that same line:
    link

    Ricko, M.Princip, someone, anyone…

    Besides Campbell’s helmet having the high hook ups, check out the Ralings on A&M’s #1…look at the strange ridge that carries out from the nose bumper:

    link

    Found a picture of an NBA captaincy designation. Not exactly a common sight. Are there ANY currently on the hardwood? I can’t think of any.

    LaPhonso Ellis, of the 1997-98 Denver Nuggets.

    [quote comment=”364590″]Found a picture of an NBA captaincy designation. Not exactly a common sight. Are there ANY currently on the hardwood? I can’t think of any.

    LaPhonso Ellis, of the 1997-98 Denver Nuggets.[/quote]
    Gonna try that link one more time.
    link

    [quote comment=”364527″][quote comment=”364523″][quote comment=”364521″]Kind of a fun video of the Mizzou football team seeing their rivalry (riflery) uniforms for the first time, plus some game footage that focuses on the unis.

    link

    powers will kill me, but i LOVE that helmet![/quote]

    Huh? I liked both the Mizzou and Kansas helmets![/quote]

    I totally dug the Mizzou helmets as well.

    [quote comment=”364591″][quote comment=”364590″]Found a picture of an NBA captaincy designation. Not exactly a common sight. Are there ANY currently on the hardwood? I can’t think of any.

    LaPhonso Ellis, of the 1997-98 Denver Nuggets.[/quote]
    Gonna try that link one more time.
    link
    I don’t remember seeing it since the Warriors had 3 captains in the Run TMC days. Obviously the Ellis picture is more recent, but I can’t think of any currently either.

    link

    [quote comment=”364593″][quote comment=”364591″][quote comment=”364590″]Found a picture of an NBA captaincy designation. Not exactly a common sight. Are there ANY currently on the hardwood? I can’t think of any.

    LaPhonso Ellis, of the 1997-98 Denver Nuggets.[/quote]
    Gonna try that link one more time.
    link
    I don’t remember seeing it since the Warriors had 3 captains in the Run TMC days. Obviously the Ellis picture is more recent, but I can’t think of any currently either.

    link

    i thought chris paul had one now, but i can’t find any pics!

    okay ryco, ignore jesco and chowderhead, the 17 in process bobbles, the envelopes, glass, and general studio mayhem, but link is my 800 pound ’73 schwinn varsity, coincidentally, and not intended, next to my varsity jacket. i know blurry, but it is a varsity, check out the text link. i love the link, and the link which would be lost on a single gear, make note of the original grip tape. speaking of original, so are the link, and the non ball saving link. and of course my favourite link certifies that it was made of steel in chicago, union made i believe, capable of riding like a tank over chicago streets. too bad my license link in 76.

    so now all i need is the link, link, and link, and i am set up sweet.

    [quote comment=”364558″]what is so unusual about Mike Garrett’s cross bar attachment?
    That like the “U” bar or “bull ring” (see Csonka) were common place.
    When i was a student equipment manager at Youngstown State we had alot of that stuff in our backroom.
    -Stoops[/quote]

    Student equipment manager at YSU cool. I had asked Carmen Cascese (sp) for some Ys to make myself a replica full sized Youngstown State helmet. I used a Chiefs replica helmet and put the Ys on for my own YSU helmet. I am a Youngstown State graduate.

    [quote comment=”364598″]The Utah Jazz old school wordmark:

    link

    The Font used for JAZZ is similar to a Broadway but not quite…Any help would be wonderful[/quote]

    Betcha a nickel the whole thing was an artwork and not a font. Based on a font, maybe, but not a font.

    From that era (and before) as often as not, that was the case.

    Yes, you can tell your students people actually drew words once upon a time. One my dad’s former partners was phenomenal. A few of the high-profile corporate wordmarks he lettered brush-in-hand maybe 50 years ago are still in use hereabouts.

    —Ricko

    For example, find the Minnesota Buckskins logo (WTT, 1974).
    What font is that? Technically, none. My dad hand-lettered it for me after I drew the figure.

    As, yes, it’s patterned after the Fighting Saints logo. On purpose. With their permission. And unisex. Also on purpose.

    (Anticipating any “Ah-HA’s!” that may come up).

    LOL

    —Ricko

    I have always been a cycling fan and, as much as I love the classic wool jerseys from the Eddy Merckx days with Molteni, my favorite will always be the La Vie Claire kit worn by Bernard Hinault and Greg LeMond in the 80s.

    link

    link

    And the winner for most over-the top cycling kit of all time must go to the famed sprinter, “Super” Mario Cippolini (possibly the coolest man ever to straddle a bike).

    link

    In case you can’t tell, that’s a full bodysuit depicting the human muscular system. Only the Lion King could pull that off, and just barely. Just do a quick Google image search for him and prepare to be dazzled (or sickened) by his astounding sartorial choices.

    [quote comment=”364601″]For example, find the Minnesota Buckskins logo (WTT, 1974).
    What font is that? Technically, none. My dad hand-lettered it for me after I drew the figure.

    As, yes, it’s patterned after the Fighting Saints logo. On purpose. With their permission. And unisex. Also on purpose.

    (Anticipating any “Ah-HA’s!” that may come up).

    LOL

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Cool:
    link

    Color vs. Color at the Graphic Edge Bowl two weeks ago. It’s a junior college bowl, which plays a doubleheader, so I don’t know which teams these are.

    link

    link

    Who is the team for that leather helmet with plastic facemask in Franks picture?

    Anybody have any idea when the College Hall of Fame is moving?

    [quote comment=”364586″][quote comment=”364585″]In this pic, Bubba Rose looks as if he is wearing the same “Largent” turfs that we were wondering about.

    To continue that thinking…Joe Morris later wore turf shoes of that same line:[/quote]

    Earl Campbell. 34″ thighs, supposedly.
    Damn, that’s the size of my WAIST.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That used to be my waist size long ago. I just had to buy some new pants in a bigger size. I hated doing that.

    I always heard about Earl Campbells thigh size.

    [quote comment=”364608″]what if there is a hill hippie? what if there is a hill? (rpm)

    I nominate this as this generation’s “What’s the Frequency, Kenneth?”[/quote]

    rpm=dr?

    [quote comment=”364589″]Ricko, M.Princip, someone, anyone…

    Besides Campbell’s helmet having the high hook ups, check out the Ralings on A&M’s #1…look at the strange ridge that carries out from the nose bumper:

    link

    Yep, Rawlings HND-9 Helmet.

    link

    okay ryco, i typed this once before and lost it, so let’s try again…

    please ignore the cats, the in process bobbles, the general studio mess, but here is my schwinn varsity next to my varsity jacket(didn’t realize until after i took the shot, ha). i love the classic schwinn font, and forks. gota love that gearshift that would be lost in a monogear nightmare, and check out the original grip tape ryco. speaking of original, yup the 73 tires are on there too, so is the seat. no sack-saving hole in the later either, it’s a hard core nut-buster. speaking of hard core, my favourite feature certifies that it is a chicago union made 800 pound steel tank capable of rolling over chicago streets, vaaaroooom. too bad my license expired in ’76.

    cornmother bless it. you mean i retype all this then look up, and after a couple hours the post appears?! at least i hadn’t linked it yet. still, that steams me like a mono gear bike hippie balancing in an intersection.

    [quote comment=”364598″]The Utah Jazz old school wordmark:

    link

    The Font used for JAZZ is similar to a Broadway but not quite…Any help would be wonderful[/quote]
    Maybe this doesn’t help you, but that logo somehow puts me in the mind of this logo, which was definitely designed by an individual…
    link

    Not uni-related, but Coors was filming a commercial in Milwaukee today…AT MILLER PARK! Hmmm, kind of strange.

    [quote comment=”364611″]okay ryco, i typed this once before and lost it, so let’s try again…

    please ignore the cats, the in process bobbles, the general studio mess, but here is my schwinn varsity next to my varsity jacket(didn’t realize until after i took the shot, ha). i love the classic schwinn font, and forks. gota love that gearshift that would be lost in a monogear nightmare, and check out the original grip tape ryco. speaking of original, yup the 73 tires are on there too, so is the seat. no sack-saving hole in the later either, it’s a hard core nut-buster. speaking of hard core, my favourite feature certifies that it is a chicago union made 800 pound steel tank capable of rolling over chicago streets, vaaaroooom. too bad my license expired in ’76.

    cornmother bless it. you mean i retype all this then look up, and after a couple hours the post appears?! at least i hadn’t linked it yet. still, that steams me like a mono gear bike hippie balancing in an intersection.[/quote]
    Hey, look at the bright side. It’s like the bonus features on a DVD. We get the original version AND the director’s cut of your incoherent ramblings.

    [quote comment=”364613″]Not uni-related, but Coors was filming a commercial in Milwaukee today…AT MILLER PARK! Hmmm, kind of strange.[/quote]
    You do realize that they’re both owned by the link, right?

    Braves sign Wagner, and is shown at the press conference holding up a #13 jersey. Nate McLouth is the current Braves’ #13. Something’s gotta give.

    [quote comment=”364614″][quote comment=”364611″]okay ryco, i typed this once before and lost it, so let’s try again…

    please ignore the cats, the in process bobbles, the general studio mess, but here is my schwinn varsity next to my varsity jacket(didn’t realize until after i took the shot, ha). i love the classic schwinn font, and forks. gota love that gearshift that would be lost in a monogear nightmare, and check out the original grip tape ryco. speaking of original, yup the 73 tires are on there too, so is the seat. no sack-saving hole in the later either, it’s a hard core nut-buster. speaking of hard core, my favourite feature certifies that it is a chicago union made 800 pound steel tank capable of rolling over chicago streets, vaaaroooom. too bad my license expired in ’76.

    cornmother bless it. you mean i retype all this then look up, and after a couple hours the post appears?! at least i hadn’t linked it yet. still, that steams me like a mono gear bike hippie balancing in an intersection.[/quote]
    Hey, look at the bright side. It’s like the bonus features on a DVD. We get the original version AND the director’s cut of your incoherent ramblings.[/quote]

    you coming to the softball game thursday? i think we have the full roster, but there are still beers to drink. and we are playing on the les miller turf field at uic, so that should be all cool. i can give you your socks too.

    i guess nut-buster was a nice addition

    i have to go work some football games jth. but if you want we play at 7, if we win 9, and if we win that 10. so we play at 7 only.

    This picture of a supposed Ohio State uniform is floating around on Ohio State boards

    I have no idea why or what it means. Looks like home version of the one worn in Michigan game.

    link

    [quote comment=”364616″]Braves sign Wagner, and is shown at the press conference holding up a #13 jersey. Nate McLouth is the current Braves’ #13. Something’s gotta give.[/quote]

    I remember Brian Jordan bought Freddie Gonzalez a motorcycle to get his old #33 back, wonder if Wagner did something similar. or just got it because he has worn it his whole career

    Although softball link does sound awesome, I’m sad to report that I’ll be out of town tomorrow so I won’t be able to make it.

    Pretty sweet uni matchup for my CT football team’s Thanksgiving day game between Hamden HS and my school, Notre Dame HS.

    link

    That very small young man carrying the ball is me.

    [quote comment=”364619″]This picture of a supposed Ohio State uniform is floating around on Ohio State boards

    I have no idea why or what it means. Looks like home version of the one worn in Michigan game.

    link

    wrong sleeve stripes for ’54 tribute? check

    nike signature spirograph on shoulders? check

    pants with signature nike half-stripe, and “picture frame bottom”? check

    red jersey instead of white? check

    hmmmm…either it’s a great “fake” home jersey or perhaps a shitload of cash under the table nike’s perseverance will have tress rethink next year’s unis…

    OR…possibly to wear against oregon in the rose bowl????

    [quote comment=”364615″][quote comment=”364613″]Not uni-related, but Coors was filming a commercial in Milwaukee today…AT MILLER PARK! Hmmm, kind of strange.[/quote]
    You do realize that they’re both owned by the link, right?[/quote]

    I knew that was coming. Not only am I aware, but I am very away. My friend who was at Miller Park today confirmed it was indeed a Coors Light commercial. NOT a commercial for MillerCoors. Wouldn’t you find that the slightest bit strange even if they are owned by the same conglomerate?

    Not that there was any doubt in my mind… but the Sports Turf Managers Association named Lambeau Field as ‘Field of the Year’ today.

    link

    [quote comment=”364625″]Not that there was any doubt in my mind… but the Sports Turf Managers Association named Lambeau Field as ‘Field of the Year’ today.

    link

    not heinz field?

    [quote comment=”364622″]Pretty sweet uni matchup for my CT football team’s Thanksgiving day game between Hamden HS and my school, Notre Dame HS.

    link

    That very small young man carrying the ball is me.[/quote]

    Isn’t ND directly across the street from SHU?

    [quote comment=”364623″][quote comment=”364619″]This picture of a supposed Ohio State uniform is floating around on Ohio State boards

    I have no idea why or what it means. Looks like home version of the one worn in Michigan game.

    link

    wrong sleeve stripes for ’54 tribute? check

    nike signature spirograph on shoulders? check

    pants with signature nike half-stripe, and “picture frame bottom”? check

    red jersey instead of white? check

    hmmmm…either it’s a great “fake” home jersey or perhaps a shitload of cash under the table nike’s perseverance will have tress rethink next year’s unis…

    OR…possibly to wear against oregon in the rose bowl????[/quote]

    One poster guessed that. Who knows.

    I know that Nike isn’t the most loved entitu around here,but this is a cool story.

    Jason Petrie is one of Nike’s head designers. He designed the current Air Max Lebron VII and much more.

    What is great is that he started out designing kicks and posting on Niketalk as the legendary AlphaProject:

    link

    Ring announcer on Versus just said Bernard Hopkins wearing Temple university colors.

    Cavs wearing the bright blue throwbacks

    [quote comment=”364569″][quote comment=”364562″][quote comment=”364561″]My favorite program cover from Andy Moursund’s collection:
    link
    More appropriate for a Giants game, but I still like it.[/quote]

    I have never seen the end zone striping originate from the center like a sunburst.[/quote]

    Paul,

    That NY Giants book I sent you has a picture of the Polo Grounds towards the front. Do the endzones have this same striping? I can’t remember.[/quote]

    Sorry, been visiting my Mom all day. Just got home.

    Yes, same end zone striping as in the program cover!

    not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet… but this canon ad has bothered me for a while

    link

    2 problems…

    1. the chargers receiver “PRINCE” is wearing 16… no chargers player has worn/has been allowed to wear 16 since Ryan Leaf, and im surprised they managed to get a 16 chargers jersey made.

    2. the patriots are wearing silver pants with the white jerseys, which i dont remember happening with the current uniforms.

    [quote comment=”364626″]Yellow and Gold always make me run to this site, even if the picture is a little silly…

    link
    A little silly? Don’t you think you’re being a bit harsh? Sure, the kid on the right has a completely mismatched helmet, but cut him some slack.

    [quote comment=”364636″][quote comment=”364626″]Yellow and Gold always make me run to this site, even if the picture is a little silly…

    link
    A little silly? Don’t you think you’re being a bit harsh? Sure, the kid on the right has a completely mismatched helmet, but cut him some slack.[/quote]

    Poster child for Dunlop’s Disease, isn’t he.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”364634″][quote comment=”364569″][quote comment=”364562″][quote comment=”364561″]My favorite program cover from Andy Moursund’s collection:
    link
    More appropriate for a Giants game, but I still like it.[/quote]

    I have never seen the end zone striping originate from the center like a sunburst.[/quote]

    Paul,

    That NY Giants book I sent you has a picture of the Polo Grounds towards the front. Do the endzones have this same striping? I can’t remember.[/quote]

    Sorry, been visiting my Mom all day. Just got home.

    Yes, same end zone striping as in the program cover![/quote]

    Thanks! I thought I saw that somewhere. That’s a nice photo. It has Yankee Stadium in the background, I believe. On the web all you saw were shots of Yankee Stadium with the Polo Grounds in the background.

    [quote comment=”364574″][quote comment=”364573″][quote comment=”364571″][quote comment=”364558″]what is so unusual about Mike Garrett’s cross bar attachment?
    That like the “U” bar or “bull ring” (see Csonka) were common place.
    When i was a student equipment manager at Youngstown State we had alot of that stuff in our backroom.
    -Stoops[/quote]
    To me, what’s unusual about it is that it looks as though it was intended to be attahced to link with the single vertical bar rather than the link with the two vertical bars.[/quote]
    link on that Oregon helmet.[/quote]

    That Longhorn has a mouthpiece in, right?[/quote]
    That ‘longhorn’ is the Tyler Rose, right???

    According to Rob Moseley (twitter.com/DuckFootball), for the Civil War tomorrow the Oregon will be wearing retro helmets with their new O, green retro jerseys, and white pants.

    Going back to the Blackhawks tomahawk discussion, when I was in college I use to go watch the Saginaw Hawks of the IHL and they had the tomahawks over the letter S. I could not find a picture on the internet but I think I have a picture from back then in my archives, I will look and see if I can find it.

    [quote comment=”364643″]Going back to the Blackhawks tomahawk discussion, when I was in college I use to go watch the Saginaw Hawks of the IHL and they had the tomahawks over the letter S. I could not find a picture on the internet but I think I have a picture from back then in my archives, I will look and see if I can find it.[/quote]
    A la the link?

    [quote comment=”364644″][quote comment=”364643″]Going back to the Blackhawks tomahawk discussion, when I was in college I use to go watch the Saginaw Hawks of the IHL and they had the tomahawks over the letter S. I could not find a picture on the internet but I think I have a picture from back then in my archives, I will look and see if I can find it.[/quote]
    A la the link?[/quote]

    Yes, just like that but with the letter S. Around here someplace I have pictures of the team before them the Saginaw Generals. Actually they were the same team just changed when they became the Black Hawks farm club.

    [quote comment=”364622″]Pretty sweet uni matchup for my CT football team’s Thanksgiving day game between Hamden HS and my school, Notre Dame HS.

    link

    That very small young man carrying the ball is me.[/quote]

    I just figured #71 was huge.

    Nice photo. So did you guys win?

    [quote comment=”364646″][quote comment=”364622″]Pretty sweet uni matchup for my CT football team’s Thanksgiving day game between Hamden HS and my school, Notre Dame HS.

    link

    That very small young man carrying the ball is me.[/quote]

    I just figured #71 was huge.

    Nice photo. So did you guys win?[/quote]

    google is your friend, jim

    short answer…yup…ND won 31-15

    A few days back I e-mailed the Bills’ uni head office and explained why this would be a great time to start looking for a more traditional yet modern look to those horrible looking uni’s they currently sport, they responded “we are looking in a new direction in all cases of the Bills’ franchise including uniforms” They went on to say they are open for public creativity regarding their uni’s.
    link

    Today was the first time I saw the Duke back jersey graphics on one of their jerseys other than white.

    Have any other schools picked up on doing plain jersey front, crazy graphics on the back thing??

    [quote comment=”364600″][quote comment=”364598″]The Utah Jazz old school wordmark:

    link

    The Font used for JAZZ is similar to a Broadway but not quite…Any help would be wonderful[/quote]

    Betcha a nickel the whole thing was an artwork and not a font. Based on a font, maybe, but not a font.

    From that era (and before) as often as not, that was the case.

    Yes, you can tell your students people actually drew words once upon a time. One my dad’s former partners was phenomenal. A few of the high-profile corporate wordmarks he lettered brush-in-hand maybe 50 years ago are still in use hereabouts.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Amen Ricko. A lost art indeed. What was your dad’s name? Was he ever associated with Studio One in Mpls? Or one of the other studios?

    [quote comment=”364619″]This picture of a supposed Ohio State uniform is floating around on Ohio State boards

    I have no idea why or what it means. Looks like home version of the one worn in Michigan game.

    link

    wait, what, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! NO NO NO NO NO NO. CORN FUCKING DAMN IT, THAT’S IT, GO FUCKING BLUE!

    [quote comment=”364652″][quote comment=”364619″]This picture of a supposed Ohio State uniform is floating around on Ohio State boards

    I have no idea why or what it means. Looks like home version of the one worn in Michigan game.

    link

    wait, what, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! NO NO NO NO NO NO. CORN FUCKING DAMN IT, THAT’S IT, GO FUCKING BLUE![/quote]

    I don’t buy it. It doesn’t have that crest at the bottom of the collar all the others had.

    [quote comment=”364653″][quote comment=”364652″][quote comment=”364619″]This picture of a supposed Ohio State uniform is floating around on Ohio State boards

    I have no idea why or what it means. Looks like home version of the one worn in Michigan game.

    link

    wait, what, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! NO NO NO NO NO NO. CORN FUCKING DAMN IT, THAT’S IT, GO FUCKING BLUE![/quote]

    I don’t buy it. It doesn’t have that crest at the bottom of the collar all the others had.[/quote]

    if they break those out i’ll root for the ducks, i swear it. and i will outright root against the buckeyes from here on out. i am going to ebay to look for scUM gear just in case. i hope you are right that it is a hoax. what was the reaction on the boards, did people like ’em. not uw peeps, i mean the average joe fan. i don’t read that garbage, uw is 100% of my sports page.

    [quote comment=”364654″][quote comment=”364653″][quote comment=”364652″][quote comment=”364619″]This picture of a supposed Ohio State uniform is floating around on Ohio State boards

    I have no idea why or what it means. Looks like home version of the one worn in Michigan game.

    link

    wait, what, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! NO NO NO NO NO NO. CORN FUCKING DAMN IT, THAT’S IT, GO FUCKING BLUE![/quote]

    I don’t buy it. It doesn’t have that crest at the bottom of the collar all the others had.[/quote]

    if they break those out i’ll root for the ducks, i swear it. and i will outright root against the buckeyes from here on out. i am going to ebay to look for scUM gear just in case. i hope you are right that it is a hoax. what was the reaction on the boards, did people like ’em. not uw peeps, i mean the average joe fan. i don’t read that garbage, uw is 100% of my sports page.[/quote]

    Wait a sec, do those pants have knee pads made into them???

    [quote comment=”364545″]Lots of you have been asking about this special issue of The Hockey News. Yes, it’s great – not least because it includes a nice feature by Uni Watch reader Jeff Barak, incidentally – and I plan to write about it soon. The delay has been due to (a) my inability to find a copy on the newsstand (yes, in NYC, it’s true) followed by (b) THN’s inability to send me the copy I mail-ordered over a month ago. Finally got my copy two days ago and will have a write-up of it either later this week or early next.[/quote]
    If you had ventured out to Rutt’s or Johnny and Hanges recently, you could have picked up a copy at the Barnes & Noble on Route 3. The issue has been there for several weeks now.

    Hudson News underneath MSG in Penn has had that issue out for a while. It’s there for me to read after every Rangers game.

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