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‘If you damage this, I will beat your skull in with it’: Cooperstown Field Trip Report

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Two weekends ago I was in Cooperstown, where Hall of Fame curator Tom Shieber was kind enough to give a private behind-the-scenes tour to me, Kirsten, and my old college pals Jeff Katz and Ben McTernan. Naturally, I dressed for the occasion (thanks, RPM).

Most of our time was spent in the Hall’s archives, basically a huge storage area where they keep everything that isn’t currently on display. Since they display only about 15% of their collection at a time, the archives are essentially a huge trove of goodies that most visitors never get to see. Also, because the Hall holds onto everything once it’s accessioned, the archives also feature loads of items that will never be displayed because they’re sort of silly or of dubious historical value. Naturally, these items were my favorites.

Among the highlights:

• Here’s Tom holding Joe Rudi’s suitcase. For some reason I was particularly fond of this item, maybe because it’s green and gold.

• I was very pleased to see that Tom maintains a binder of patches, organized by team and by subject.

• What are these? They’re old season passes that many ballparks used to issue, and holy shit are they beautiful.

• Were were these two items worn by the same player? Nope. Tom was nice enough to let me hold the Babe’s jersey, which had this nice chain-stitched i.d. label.

• As for Gehrig’s cap, there’s something really nice about that smaller “NY” logo, no? Wish they’d go back to that.

• What are those notches around the Louisville Slugger logo? Each one represents a home run that Babe Ruth hit that year (sorry, I forget which season it was). Incredibly, the notches were added by a collector, not by Ruth. Correction, the notches were added by Ruth with each tater he hit. The collector added that label, though. Maybe that’s why Tom allowed me to pose with the lumber. (That’s Tom in the background, looking slightly concerned that I might swing and cause a big crash or something.)

• Why does the Hall of Fame have a shovel? Because it’s from the Dodger Stadium groundbreaking.

• The Hall has a huge collection of baseball-related artwork, most of it endearingly cheesy. For some reason I really liked this painting, although I no longer remember why. Maybe beause of the belt buckle!

• These Brooklyn bricks got me a little misty-eyed.

• We spent some time in the photo library (but not too long, cuz it’s refrigerated in there), where Tom showed us some gorgeous old pics.

• Tom was also proud to show us a few recent displays out in the public areas of the museum, including an exhibit devoted to baseball in the Olympics. I was especially fond of this jersey. Is that a beauty or what?

There was a lot more, but we were too busy having fun to take photos. Speaking of which, special thanks to Kirsten, who took most of the above-linked pics. You can see her full set from our visit here.

Raffle Results: The three winners of the poster raffle are, in order, Evan Shanley, Art Savokinas, and Brian Jones, all of whom should send me their shipping addresses pronto.

For those of you who didn’t win (or didn’t enter the raffle), Infojocks designer Jeremy Yingling has an offer to help cushion the disappointment: If you follow and mention @infojocks on Twitter, he’ll forward you a coupon good for 20% off any poster order.

Sponsor Shout-Out: As you may have noticed, T-shirt operative Miss Wit (aka Brooklyn’s own Deb Goldstein) is selling a fairly brilliant T-shirt. Just sayin’.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Here’s Virginia Tech’s riflery uniform, as photographed by Shawn Brown, who attended the unveiling. … Lots of cool sports-related artwork from an illustrator named Paul Rogers. Much of his work is clearly a homage to former Wrigley/Cubs art director Otis Shepard (with thanks to Ryan Connelly). ”¦ What’s the deal with the weird gray panels on RPI’s hockey socks? Almost looks Photoshopped, but Mike Adams says he got the pics from the team’s official web site. ”¦ Here’s how not to wear a Dallas Stars jersey (as spotted by Craig Ward). ”¦ New World Cup soccer kit for Japan (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). ”¦ Cool contribution from Chad Wilson, who writes: “Over the weekend, my hometown high school, the Glen Oaks Panthers in Baton Rouge, clinched their first district/region championship since 1995 and they posted this picture in the local paper. Check out the striped socks — and cleats! — on No. 1.” ”¦ Here’s what the Stephen Colbert speedskating sponsorship patch looks like (with thanks to Matt Englander). ”¦ Okay, it’s official, civilization as we know it is totally fucked (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). ”¦ And in case that last link didn’t convince you, here’s just what the world needs: a soccer player with his Twitter feed printed on his cleats (as forwarded by Jordan Guthmann). ”¦ Is it possible that an NFL official really had pom-poms on the brim of his cap? Ron Amadeo took that screen shot (also this one), and I kinda suspected him of sending me a Photoshopped hoax, but then he showed me this wire service shot. Anyone..? ”¦ Not sure if anyone posted this in the weekend comments, but here’s what Texas A&M’s Fort Hood memorial decal looked like. ”¦ Steve Cook attended Sunday’s Eagles/Cowboys game and spotted this dude in the crowd. Love the “NFL” on the collar — like, just in case you didn’t know which league those logos belonged to. ”¦ Blackhawks will be wearing camo warm-ups tomorrow night. I’m sure Native Americans in Illinois and elsewhere will appreciate the juxtaposition of an Indian head the U.S. military. Why not just rename the team Manifest Destiny for a night and get it over with? ”¦ UNC broke out the throwbacks last night — nice! More photos here. ”¦ Tons of great old hockey imagery on this Canadian archive site, including cool photos, even cooler trading cards, and more. Worth exploring (big thanks to Alan Kreit). … “Must be the shoes,” says Brinke Guthrie. ”¦ Speaking of Monday Night Football, Wyatt Silverman notes that Troy Polamalu had a little cross embroidered above his nameplate. Has it been there for years and nobody ever noticed because of his hair? If anyone knows more, please speak up. ”¦ Aussie rules football news from Drew Douglas, who reports that Adelaide Crows have a new logo and road kit and the Brisbane Lions have a new logo. ”¦ Here’s a breakdown of all the EPL kits from last weekend (with thanks to Michael Orr).

 
  
 
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    Blackhawks will be wearing camo warm-ups tomorrow night. I’m sure Native Americans in Illinois and elsewhere will appreciate the juxtaposition of an Indian head the U.S. military.

    The Blackhawks were named by their original owner, Frederic McLaughlin, in honor of the Black Hawk artillery regiment he served with in World War I.

    Could that NFL official be wearing two microphones with fuzzy wind guards on his cap? The networks will do anything to get closer to the action, and the umpire is right there in the middle (for now). Surely his hat can fly off if he gets hit, but maybe there are wires hiding somewhere there.

    “Is it possible that an NFL official really had pom-poms on the brim of his cap? Ron Amadeo took that screen shot (also this one), and I kinda suspected him of sending me a Photoshopped hoax, but then he showed me this wire service shot. Anyone..?”

    I saw that live too and I thought about it for aourn 2 seconds and figured it was maybe a small camera or microphone or something like that. If they are pom poms, the NFL surely should fine him like they fine players for uniform violations.

    I believe the “pom poms” were microphones.

    Also, the Sunday game was the Eagles/Cowboys, not Eagles/Steelers.

    [quote comment=”359480″]What I find interesting is that the RPI unis are made by Warrior, better known for lax gear.[/quote]
    They are now getting into hockey…here are a few players
    link

    We already figured OU would be wearing white helmets with a gray facemask, but here’s another confirmation. No word on when the Sooners will show off their new duds to be worn against TT, as of yet.

    link

    The basketball Buckeyes debuted some screwy new Nike socks (and their OSU colorway of LeBron’s Soldier III) last night…

    link

    I couldn’t find a better picture of the skunk strip up the back, but I’m guessing these are the socks…

    link

    And the one pair of white non-Nike socks belong to guard PJ Hill

    I wish someone at Va Tech would suggest wearing the Ft Hood memorial decal, what with their cadet presence on campus; also like to see Nike’s reaction to something they didn’t design being applied to the Combat uni.

    [quote comment=”359482″]http://www.flickr.com/photos/catasterist/4077108720/in/set-72157622612445145/

    Paul this picture is amazing! Do you recall what year all-star game this is?[/quote]

    Paul would probably have a better clue, but I would say that’s pre-1933 (so not an ASG). I’m not real good at ID’ing the old timers but I’m pretty sure I see Walter Johnson & Christy Mathewson in the back row.

    Not much time to pick up that perfect gift for the stirrup lover in your life: link

    RPI’s socks have indeed been altered this season, though the official site is link. The jersey design has also changed from link to link. Note the change in yoke and the elimination of the Puckman logo in favor of the school shield.

    What are the other teams coming out with these Pro Combat Uniforms and when can we expect to see them shown to the public. Right now I think we have VT, TCU, Florida State. I’ve heard there are seven others….

    [quote comment=”359479″]”Is it possible that an NFL official really had pom-poms on the brim of his cap? Ron Amadeo took that screen shot (also this one), and I kinda suspected him of sending me a Photoshopped hoax, but then he showed me this wire service shot. Anyone..?”

    I saw that live too and I thought about it for aourn 2 seconds and figured it was maybe a small camera or microphone or something like that. If they are pom poms, the NFL surely should fine him like they fine players for uniform violations.[/quote]

    There is ABOLUTELY no way that an NFL Official would defile the dress code. The closest I have seen any official come is wearing ncaa socks with too little white showing…any guesses as to who that is?

    [quote comment=”359482″]http://www.flickr.com/photos/catasterist/4077108720/in/set-72157622612445145/

    Paul this picture is amazing! Do you recall what year all-star game this is?[/quote]

    That’s the 1911 benefit game, staged for Addie Joss’s widow. Ty Cobb’s luggage was lost in transit, forcing him to wear a Cleveland uniform. Additional details here:
    link

    [quote comment=”359492″]What are the other teams coming out with these Pro Combat Uniforms and when can we expect to see them shown to the public. Right now I think we have VT, TCU, Florida State. I’ve heard there are seven others….[/quote]

    VaTech
    UF
    FSU
    Miami
    Mizzou
    TCU
    TOSU
    Oklahoma
    LSU
    Alabama

    [quote comment=”359492″]What are the other teams coming out with these Pro Combat Uniforms and when can we expect to see them shown to the public. Right now I think we have VT, TCU, Florida State. I’ve heard there are seven others….[/quote]

    wrote this down two days ago…i think it’s now basically been confirmed:

    texas
    tosu
    fsu
    va tech
    tcu
    miami
    florida
    mizzou
    oklahoma
    lsu

    Ticker error: Eagles played the Cowboys this past Sunday, not the Steelers (not that it would have mattered on the scoreboard.)

    The Joe Primeau trading card has what appears to be the star of david as a background. any of you hockey folk know the story?

    [quote comment=”359501″][quote comment=”359500″][quote comment=”359498″]
    Alabama[/quote]

    alabama? think you mean texas[/quote]

    Correct! Thanks, Phil.[/quote]

    mack brown may not allow you to freestyle texas two-step, big boy

    the unis are another matter

    [quote comment=”359503″]The Joe Primeau trading card has what appears to be the star of david as a background. any of you hockey folk know the story?[/quote]

    looks similar to the star on the jersey worn at the ace bailey benefit (basically, the NHL’s first all-star game) … teebz assisted me on a piece back in january that kinda looks at some of those all-star jerseys

    [quote comment=”359505″][quote comment=”359503″]The Joe Primeau trading card has what appears to be the star of david as a background. any of you hockey folk know the story?[/quote]

    looks similar to the link worn at the ace bailey benefit (basically, the NHL’s first all-star game) … teebz assisted me on a link that kinda looks at some of those all-star jerseys[/quote]

    so, no religious/cultural reference? (law enforcement?). the other stars on the card have 5 points. just wondered if it was a hockey or canada thing. no offense intended, btw.

    Not sure if this as been linked to yet, but this video shows a prototype for some new ‘secure’ helmets to be used in the NHL. (starts at about the 1 min mark in the video)

    link

    I know that Polamalu is a fairly vocal Orthodox Christian and crosses himself before every play, so it’s not surprising he would have a cross on his uniform. Never seen it before, though.

    These pro combat unis also have a slogan attached:

    Florida Gators — Finish the Mission;
    Florida State Seminoles — Fear the Spear; Virginia Tech Hokies — Good Guys Wear White;
    TCU Horned Frogs — Never Back Down;
    Ohio State Buckeyes — Earned;
    Oklahoma Sooners — Stake Our Claim;
    Texas Longhorns — It Only Takes Eleven;
    LSU Tigers — Cochon De Lait;
    Missouri Tigers — Beast Mode;
    Miami Hurricanes — The U Knows

    Pretty silly if you ask me.

    I certainly hope the league fines Polamalu for his uniform addition, although I’m sure they won’t since it’s the darling Steelers.

    [quote comment=”359510″]These pro combat unis also have a slogan attached:

    Florida Gators — Finish the Mission;
    Florida State Seminoles — Fear the Spear; Virginia Tech Hokies — Good Guys Wear White;
    TCU Horned Frogs — Never Back Down;
    Ohio State Buckeyes — Earned;
    Oklahoma Sooners — Stake Our Claim;
    Texas Longhorns — It Only Takes Eleven;
    LSU Tigers — Cochon De Lait;
    Missouri Tigers — Beast Mode;
    Miami Hurricanes — The U Knows

    Pretty silly if you ask me.[/quote]

    Here’s a question for the ages.

    Who knows more, Bo or the U?

    [quote comment=”359511″]I certainly hope the league fines Polamalu for his uniform addition, although I’m sure they won’t since it’s the darling Steelers.[/quote]

    i, for one, am SO glad the NFL lets us win!

    but i was thinking, since he has so much hair (obviously), is putting a cross above his nameplate any different than writing a personal message on the inside of his collar/jersey? it’s SO rare that you get to see it anyway

    tOSU’s slogan is “earned?” seriously?! how about “dot the i” or “O-H-I-O” or “fight the team across the field” or “11 warriors?” earned? that’s pretty weak.

    link

    Ever get the feeling Nike is having fun seeing how much they can throw at people and those people will keep buying what they’re selling?

    Seriously, I bet they have a private room where employees are allowed go and just laugh out loud about the fact that someone (everyone?) will swallow anything they push out.

    Probably says “Think Tank” on the door but everyone knows it’s really the “I can’t stand it anymore I need to go somewhere and giggle” room.

    —Ricko

    Crap. I’ve had those glasses Paul is wearing for years. Now I feel like a complete toolbag! Also, IKEA is my Anti-Spam word. What kind of corporate shill is Uniwatch?

    [quote comment=”359511″]I certainly hope the league fines Polamalu for his uniform addition, although I’m sure they won’t since it’s the darling Steelers.[/quote]
    Leagues have generally been lenient when it comes to religious symbols.

    The double standard has always driven me crazy, but there’s always been an odd religious streak running through sports.

    I love link.
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    Glad the Aggies aren’t going for the “Pro Combat” nonsense. It would cheapen link. (Looks really nice, by the way.)
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    Off-topic question:

    I thought I had a handle on the +/- stat in hockey, but can someone explain how Jonathan Toews finished last night’s game with a -1 even though he scored a goal and his team won 4-1?

    [quote comment=”359515″]tOSU’s slogan is “earned?” seriously?! how about “dot the i” or “O-H-I-O” or “fight the team across the field” or “11 warriors?” earned? that’s pretty weak.[/quote]

    I’m guessing it’s supposed to be a response to the OVER-RATED claims of recent years. Not that it isn’t still pretty stupid.

    [quote comment=”359520″]
    Glad the Aggies aren’t going for the “Pro Combat” nonsense. It would cheapen link. (Looks really nice, by the way.)[/quote]

    nike’d still find a way around using this tho…

    I know the NFL experimented with a camera on a couple of the umpires around the league (before the skycam came in), so microphones might not be a bad guess. I’m also wondering if it’s an extension of a safety mechanism (maybe tabs to secure an insert? I’m grabbing at straws here).

    There is an article about the umpires and potential safety gear from 2008 at: link

    [quote comment=”359489″]I wish someone at Va Tech would suggest wearing the Ft Hood memorial decal, what with their cadet presence on campus; also like to see Nike’s reaction to something they didn’t design being applied to the Combat uni.[/quote]
    Why? Why would VT even want to do that? The only connection that VT has to the shooting is that the shooter went to the school 2 decades ago. And with how the school is trying to move on from the shit that has happened to its own current students in previous years (April 16th, beheading last year, disappearance of VT student at Metallica concert at UVa this year) I don’t think it would be in their best interests to draw more attention to bad things associated with the school.

    Its a good thought, but its a gesture best left to the schools immediately surrounding Ft. Hood.

    Is it just me, or do the Broncos kinda look “right” in orange jerseys? I mean, they are the Orange Crush and all.

    [quote comment=”359522″][quote comment=”359520″]
    Glad the Aggies aren’t going for the “Pro Combat” nonsense. It would cheapen link. (Looks really nice, by the way.)[/quote]

    nike’d still find a way link tho…[/quote]
    Well, thankfully it’s not an issue since link.

    [quote comment=”359518″]Mizzou’s slogan should be “how the hell did we get included in this?”[/quote]

    *giggles, snorts

    [quote comment=”359525″]Is it just me, or do the Broncos kinda look “right” in orange jerseys? I mean, they are the Orange Crush and all.[/quote]
    They definitely look a whole lot less wrong.

    [quote comment=”359520″]I love link.
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    Glad the Aggies aren’t going for the “Pro Combat” nonsense. It would cheapen link. (Looks really nice, by the way.)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Off-topic question:

    I thought I had a handle on the +/- stat in hockey, but can someone explain how Jonathan Toews finished last night’s game with a -1 even though he scored a goal and his team won 4-1?[/quote]

    You don’t get a plus on a power play goal (similarly, you don’t get a minus on the penalty kill). You do, however, get a minus if you allow a shorthanded goal.

    [quote comment=”359515″]tOSU’s slogan is “earned?” seriously?! how about “dot the i” or “O-H-I-O” or “fight the team across the field” or “11 warriors?” earned? that’s pretty weak.[/quote]
    ‘Earned’ is especially hilarious when its associated with the whipping boy of the BCS. Weak out of conference schedules and a down Big Ten means they certainly ‘earned’ it all, right?

    Yeesh!

    Is it too late to initiate a write-in campaign for Ugliest NCAA Football uni?

    Cuz this…
    link
    …make Oregon’s “treadmarks” look positively great.

    Although, I suppose technically it hasn’t been worn yet, so it’s ineligible.

    “Teenage Mutant Ninja Frogs, the Video Game”

    Seriously, TCU puts together their best season in, what, 50 years and they and Nike reason that it would be “cool” to play a game in that Halloween costume?

    Silly, corny, stupid, shallow, sophomoric, cheap, gimmicky…

    I mean, it’s not the end of world, but it really is stupid.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”359529″][quote comment=”359520″]I love link.
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    Glad the Aggies aren’t going for the “Pro Combat” nonsense. It would cheapen link. (Looks really nice, by the way.)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Off-topic question:

    I thought I had a handle on the +/- stat in hockey, but can someone explain how Jonathan Toews finished last night’s game with a -1 even though he scored a goal and his team won 4-1?[/quote]

    You don’t get a plus on a power play goal (similarly, you don’t get a minus on the penalty kill). You do, however, get a minus if you allow a shorthanded goal.[/quote]
    Ah, yes. It was a PPG. Didn’t notice that in the box score.

    Thanks.

    Seems like a SHG should get you a -2…

    [quote comment=”359530″][quote comment=”359515″]tOSU’s slogan is “earned?” seriously?! how about “dot the i” or “O-H-I-O” or “fight the team across the field” or “11 warriors?” earned? that’s pretty weak.[/quote]
    ‘Earned’ is especially hilarious when its associated with the whipping boy of the BCS. Weak out of conference schedules and a down Big Ten means they certainly ‘earned’ it all, right?

    Yeesh![/quote]

    I believe “earned” might say something about seven NC’s over the lifetime of the program.

    don’t feel bad – Buckeye fans are always glad to enlighten college football newbies who know nothing of history and tradition. by the way, our last NC was in 2002 so I guess you must be in your fourth or fifth year watching college ball? welcome aboard!

    [quote comment=”359524″][quote comment=”359489″]I wish someone at Va Tech would suggest wearing the Ft Hood memorial decal, what with their cadet presence on campus; also like to see Nike’s reaction to something they didn’t design being applied to the Combat uni.[/quote]
    Why? Why would VT even want to do that? The only connection that VT has to the shooting is that the shooter went to the school 2 decades ago. And with how the school is trying to move on from the shit that has happened to its own current students in previous years (April 16th, beheading last year, disappearance of VT student at Metallica concert at UVa this year) I don’t think it would be in their best interests to draw more attention to bad things associated with the school.

    Its a good thought, but its a gesture best left to the schools immediately surrounding Ft. Hood.[/quote]

    i meant as a gesture of solidarity toward the survivors. btw, baylor and texas are both closer to ft hood than a&m and i haven’t heard that they will be wearing the decals.

    [quote comment=”359525″]Is it just me, or do the Broncos kinda look “right” in orange jerseys? I mean, they are the Orange Crush and all.[/quote]

    It’s just because we all grew up watching them in orange. I think the blue is the better option with their current uniform design.

    …and they aren’t the Orange Crush anymore. The Rams don’t have a Fearsome Foursome, and the Vikings are not eating purple people.

    btw, Texas A & M isn’t part of the Nike promotion because they are an Adidas school. according to an article in an Aggie alum magazine they were negeotiating with Nike a couple of years back and the AD said “we want the same deal Texas gets.” the Nike rep said “Look, you’re not Texas and you’ll never be Texas. we’re not doing that.”

    and then the phone rang over at Adidas with a request for a whole lot of maroon and white stuff…

    [quote comment=”359535″][quote comment=”359525″]Is it just me, or do the Broncos kinda look “right” in orange jerseys? I mean, they are the Orange Crush and all.[/quote]

    It’s just because we all grew up watching them in orange. I think the blue is the better option with their current uniform design.

    …and they aren’t the Orange Crush anymore. The Rams don’t have a Fearsome Foursome, and the Vikings are not eating purple people.[/quote]

    Jerad Allen, Kevin Williams, EJ Henderson, and Antoine Winfield are certainly Purple People Eaters!! I see your point, but then again, orange is a big part of Broncos history.

    I kinda like the orange jerseys in Denver, but I like the blue as well. Just don’t like the all white look. I would pair it with orange pants on the road.

    [quote comment=”359533″][quote comment=”359530″][quote comment=”359515″]tOSU’s slogan is “earned?” seriously?! how about “dot the i” or “O-H-I-O” or “fight the team across the field” or “11 warriors?” earned? that’s pretty weak.[/quote]
    ‘Earned’ is especially hilarious when its associated with the whipping boy of the BCS. Weak out of conference schedules and a down Big Ten means they certainly ‘earned’ it all, right?

    Yeesh![/quote]

    I believe “earned” might say something about seven NC’s over the lifetime of the program.
    [/quote]
    Princeton laughs at your incompetence.

    Yeah, because all those titles (save the 2002 National Title they won because of a phantom PI call that negated Miami’s rightful title, but thats another story) mean just about as much as the ones Princeton won…

    [quote comment=”359516″]http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/oh-hell-nah-high-heel-nike-jordans-for-your-lady-26881

    Ever get the feeling Nike is having fun seeing how much they can throw at people and those people will keep buying what they’re selling?

    Seriously, I bet they have a private room where employees are allowed go and just laugh out loud about the fact that someone (everyone?) will swallow anything they push out.

    Probably says “Think Tank” on the door but everyone knows it’s really the “I can’t stand it anymore I need to go somewhere and giggle” room.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    i often thought/think that about the shoes…

    “I would pair it with orange pants on the road.”

    Miss the Steve Tensi years that much, do you?

    Damn right. Every team should have three pair of pants. Hodge podge is classy. Let’s all rent powder blue tuxedos for the prom, too. With top hat, and tails. Ooo, and a white cane. THAT would be REALLY classy. I never understood why James Bond didn’t wear a powder blue tux. Obviously he had no sense of style.

    ; )

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”359520″]I love link.
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    Glad the Aggies aren’t going for the “Pro Combat” nonsense. It would cheapen link. (Looks really nice, by the way.)
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    Off-topic question:

    I thought I had a handle on the +/- stat in hockey, but can someone explain how Jonathan Toews finished last night’s game with a -1 even though he scored a goal and his team won 4-1?[/quote]

    Powerplay goals do not count in +/- calculation. He scored on the PP and must’ve been on-ice for the Kings’s goal.

    [quote comment=”359536″]btw, Texas A & M isn’t part of the Nike promotion because they are an Adidas school. according to an article in an Aggie alum magazine they were negeotiating with Nike a couple of years back and the AD said “we want the same deal Texas gets.” the Nike rep said “Look, you’re not Texas and you’ll never be Texas. we’re not doing that.”

    and then the phone rang over at Adidas with a request for a whole lot of maroon and white stuff…[/quote]
    Yeah, actually posted a follow-up to that comment mentioning that A&M is no longer with Nike. I think the comment got eaten by the spam filter, though.

    [quote comment=”359541″]”I would pair it with orange pants on the road.”

    Miss the Steve Tensi years that much, do you?

    Damn right. Every team should have three pair of pants. Hodge podge is classy. Let’s all rent powder blue tuxedos for the prom, too. With top hat, and tails. Ooo, and a white cane. THAT would be REALLY classy. I never understood why James Bond didn’t wear a powder blue tux. Obviously he had no sense of style.

    ; )

    —Ricko[/quote]
    link

    [quote comment=”359538″][quote comment=”359535″][quote comment=”359525″]Is it just me, or do the Broncos kinda look “right” in orange jerseys? I mean, they are the Orange Crush and all.[/quote]

    It’s just because we all grew up watching them in orange. I think the blue is the better option with their current uniform design.

    …and they aren’t the Orange Crush anymore. The Rams don’t have a Fearsome Foursome, and the Vikings are not eating purple people.[/quote]

    Jerad Allen, Kevin Williams, EJ Henderson, and Antoine Winfield are certainly Purple People Eaters!! I see your point, but then again, orange is a big part of Broncos history.

    I kinda like the orange jerseys in Denver, but I like the blue as well. Just don’t like the all white look. I would pair it with orange pants on the road.[/quote]

    Are you sure about that? I’m not sure if it really works that well…

    link

    “the Vikings are not eating purple people”

    I don’t think they ever ate “purple people.” They were purple and ate people.

    [quote comment=”359546″]”the Vikings are not eating purple people”

    I don’t think they ever ate “purple people.” They were purple and ate people.[/quote]

    The silly song about a purple people eater mentions eating purple people… so I’m sticking with it.

    [quote comment=”359547″][quote comment=”359546″]”the Vikings are not eating purple people”

    I don’t think they ever ate “purple people.” They were purple and ate people.[/quote]

    The silly song about a purple people eater mentions eating purple people… so I’m sticking with it.[/quote]
    sheb wooley agrees with the jeff

    ugh, those AJ high heels are fake as in not made by its holyness NIKE fake. Eventhough, NIKE did made AJ high heels for Christina Millian and Mariah Carey before.

    And here are the dates for the next RIVALRY uniform unveilings…

    Ohio St. – Nov. 16
    FSU – Nov. 16 (already unveiled on FSU’s website)
    Oklahoma – Nov. 16
    Florida – Nov. 21
    Texas – Nov. 22
    LSU- Nov. 23
    Mizzou- Nov. 23
    Miami – Nov. 23

    Also rumored that Florida will have the same patterned helmet/pants like TCU.

    Defending Nike in this forum is akin to preaching the positive aspects of communism in front of Joseph McCarthy, but I’ll keep fighting the good fight…

    Sorry, the Air Jordan high heels are fake. Nike didn’t make them.

    [quote comment=”359535″] The Rams don’t have a Fearsome Foursome[/quote]

    hey ricko…

    who’s the original fearsome foursome?

    [quote comment=”359546″]”the Vikings are not eating purple people”

    I don’t think they ever ate “purple people.” They were purple and ate people.[/quote]
    link

    “I said Mr. Purple People Eater, what’s your line
    He said it’s eatin’ purple people and it sure is fine.
    But that’s not the reason that I came to land
    I wanna get a job in a rock and roll band”

    Tis a silly song.

    [quote comment=”359552″][quote comment=”359546″]”the Vikings are not eating purple people”

    I don’t think they ever ate “purple people.” They were purple and ate people.[/quote]
    link

    “I said Mr. Purple People Eater, what’s your line
    He said it’s eatin’ purple people and it sure is fine.
    But that’s not the reason that I came to land
    I wanna get a job in a rock and roll band”

    Tis a silly song.[/quote]
    That song scared me as a kid. I thought there really was a purple beast that ate people until my dad pointed out that it only ate purple people.

    Dunno why he didn’t mention that it was just a dumb fucking song.

    [quote comment=”359539″]
    Princeton laughs at your incompetence.

    Yeah, because all those titles (save the 2002 National Title they won because of a phantom PI call that negated Miami’s rightful title, but thats another story) mean just about as much as the ones Princeton won…[/quote]
    So, you’re saying that those titles don’t count? How did you decide that? Because they came before the advent of the BCS?

    Do the Packers’ first nine NFL titles not count because there was no Super Bowl? The Bears’ first 8? The Giants’ first 4…

    Admit it: it’s the first time most of us have even seen Polamalu’s nameplate in years, much less what’s above it.

    [quote comment=”359545″][quote comment=”359538″][quote comment=”359535″][quote comment=”359525″]Is it just me, or do the Broncos kinda look “right” in orange jerseys? I mean, they are the Orange Crush and all.[/quote]

    It’s just because we all grew up watching them in orange. I think the blue is the better option with their current uniform design.

    …and they aren’t the Orange Crush anymore. The Rams don’t have a Fearsome Foursome, and the Vikings are not eating purple people.[/quote]

    Jerad Allen, Kevin Williams, EJ Henderson, and Antoine Winfield are certainly Purple People Eaters!! I see your point, but then again, orange is a big part of Broncos history.

    I kinda like the orange jerseys in Denver, but I like the blue as well. Just don’t like the all white look. I would pair it with orange pants on the road.[/quote]

    Are you sure about that? I’m not sure if it really works that well…

    link

    I actually don’t completely hate it, but I agree it’s not great.

    Hey, can you color the pants dark blue and make the stripe down the jersey and pants orange?

    It’s funny how Australians call their jerseys “Guernseys”, while we called them….well, “Jerseys”. They both happen to be names of Channel Islands. Does another nation call their jerseys “Sarks” or “Alderneys”?

    [quote comment=”359553″][quote comment=”359552″][quote comment=”359546″]”the Vikings are not eating purple people”

    I don’t think they ever ate “purple people.” They were purple and ate people.[/quote]
    link

    “I said Mr. Purple People Eater, what’s your line
    He said it’s eatin’ purple people and it sure is fine.
    But that’s not the reason that I came to land
    I wanna get a job in a rock and roll band”

    Tis a silly song.[/quote]
    That song scared me as a kid. I thought there really was a purple beast that ate people until my dad pointed out that it only ate purple people.

    Dunno why he didn’t mention that it was just a dumb fucking song.[/quote]

    He was doing what every good parent should do…let their children ascertain that fact for themselves.

    [quote comment=”359555″]Admit it: it’s the first time most of us have even seen Polamalu’s nameplate in years, much less what’s above it.[/quote]

    It looks more like the Prince symbol that all of the Vikings have above their nameplates.

    [quote comment=”359550″]Defending Nike in this forum is akin to preaching the positive aspects of communism in front of Joseph McCarthy, but I’ll keep fighting the good fight…

    Sorry, the Air Jordan high heels are fake. Nike didn’t make them.[/quote]

    As will I…I couldn’t open that link, but Mariah Carey was the first person to wear such monstrosities at the 2003 ASG:

    link

    Hey Ricko:

    Put a poll on a Viking forum last night asking if people prefer the white jerseys with the purple pants or white pants. So far purple pants is winning 7-2.

    So, nah-nah-nah-nah-nahhhh-nah. :)

    [quote comment=”359547″][quote comment=”359546″]”the Vikings are not eating purple people”

    I don’t think they ever ate “purple people.” They were purple and ate people.[/quote]

    The silly song about a purple people eater mentions eating purple people… so I’m sticking with it.[/quote]

    Tis true…
    “I said Mr. Purple People Eater, what’s your line
    He said it’s eatin’ purple people and it sure is fine”

    However, I think in the case of the Vikings it was that they were purple and ate people.

    Call it “artistic nickname license”.

    Oh, and the first/real “Fearsome Foursome” was SD Chargers’ Ernie Ladd, Earl Faison, Bill Hudson and Ron Nery. LA media sorta borrowed the name for Rams guys. Probably figured, “No one’s paying attention to the AFL anyway.”

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”359557″]It’s funny how Australians call their jerseys “Guernseys”, while we called them….well, “Jerseys”. They both happen to be names of Channel Islands. Does another nation call their jerseys “Sarks” or “Alderneys”?[/quote]
    Actually, before they got their modern-day connotations, guernsey and jersey were two specific types of sweater. They both got their respective names from those Channel Islands.

    [quote comment=”359518″]Mizzou’s slogan should be “how the hell did we get included in this?”[/quote]

    I’m a Mizzou guy – and I thought the same thing when I saw that list. Kuddos leon, kuddos.

    [quote comment=”359550″]Defending Nike in this forum is akin to preaching the positive aspects of communism in front of Joseph McCarthy, but I’ll keep fighting the good fight…

    Sorry, the Air Jordan high heels are fake. Nike didn’t make them.[/quote]

    Well, what can I do? As a collector (/reseller) it’s like a knee jerk reaction when I see an article like that. And speaking of jerks…

    Am I the only one who thinks that Brisbane logo is the most metrosexual lion since The Cowardly?

    [quote comment=”359558″][quote comment=”359553″][quote comment=”359552″][quote comment=”359546″]”the Vikings are not eating purple people”

    I don’t think they ever ate “purple people.” They were purple and ate people.[/quote]
    link

    “I said Mr. Purple People Eater, what’s your line
    He said it’s eatin’ purple people and it sure is fine.
    But that’s not the reason that I came to land
    I wanna get a job in a rock and roll band”

    Tis a silly song.[/quote]
    That song scared me as a kid. I thought there really was a purple beast that ate people until my dad pointed out that it only ate purple people.

    Dunno why he didn’t mention that it was just a dumb fucking song.[/quote]

    He was doing what every good parent should do…let their children ascertain that fact for themselves.[/quote]
    Plus, there’s a very good chance that he was drunk at the time.

    i was wondering if you wore a pair on the trip. and there it is second link, the revolution cracks the hallowed ground of cooperstown. awesome, ha ha ha. okay, back up to the top to read this.

    [quote comment=”359562″]Hey Ricko:

    Put a poll on a Viking forum last night asking if people prefer the white jerseys with the purple pants or white pants. So far purple pants is winning 7-2.

    So, nah-nah-nah-nah-nahhhh-nah.

    :)[/quote]

    Well, everyone knows throwing more color at a uniform solves everything. It’s absolutely positively sure to make the uni better.

    Now, if you support purple pants you really also have to support neon green for Seahawks. You don’t? Oh, so more color ISN’T always the answer. Hmmm, what a concept.

    See my “powder blue tux” post. Up above. Somewhere.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”359570″][quote comment=”359562″]Hey Ricko:

    Put a poll on a Viking forum last night asking if people prefer the white jerseys with the purple pants or white pants. So far purple pants is winning 7-2.

    So, nah-nah-nah-nah-nahhhh-nah.

    :)[/quote]

    Well, everyone knows throwing more color at a uniform solves everything. It’s absolutely positively sure to make the uni better.

    Now, if you support purple pants you really also have to support neon green for Seahawks. You don’t? Oh, so more color ISN’T always the answer. Hmmm, what a concept.

    See my “powder blue tux” post. Up above. Somewhere.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Now you’re just being dishonest. The Vikings using white on purple is no different than the Chiefs using white on red…which I think most would agree works quite well. The Seahawks neon green is about the same as the Vikings using yellow jerseys.

    “Sorry, the Air Jordan high heels are fake. Nike didn’t make them.”

    But they DID make the Teenage Mutant Ninja Horned Frogs unis.

    “Excuse me, I’ll be right back. I have to to the Giggle Room again for a few minutes.”
    —P. Knight

    [quote comment=”359571″][quote comment=”359570″][quote comment=”359562″]Hey Ricko:

    Put a poll on a Viking forum last night asking if people prefer the white jerseys with the purple pants or white pants. So far purple pants is winning 7-2.

    So, nah-nah-nah-nah-nahhhh-nah.

    :)[/quote]

    Well, everyone knows throwing more color at a uniform solves everything. It’s absolutely positively sure to make the uni better.

    Now, if you support purple pants you really also have to support neon green for Seahawks. You don’t? Oh, so more color ISN’T always the answer. Hmmm, what a concept.

    See my “powder blue tux” post. Up above. Somewhere.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Now you’re just being dishonest. The Vikings using white on purple is no different than the Chiefs using white on red…which I think most would agree works quite well. The Seahawks neon green is about the same as the Vikings using yellow jerseys.[/quote]

    Point remains. Who sez teams MUST wear coloedr pants with white jerseys? Ain’t no rule I’ve ever seen that says that.

    Because Chiefs wear red pants that’s some kind of indicator that the Vikings should wear purple? Coaches didn’t like ’em, players didn’t like ’em and fan reaction when they wore them was negative. I think this is a lot of “I like whatever you aren’t wearing now”, which in turn is like “I like the backup quarterback better, whoever he is. ”

    Although, of course, a poll at a website would get answers from people mostly 40 and under. And they’re the only ones who matter, right?

    How stupid of me to forget that.

    I’ll leave now.

    Seriously.

    ‘Bye.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”359562″]Hey Ricko:

    Put a poll on a Viking forum last night asking if people prefer the white jerseys with the purple pants or white pants. So far purple pants is winning 7-2.

    So, nah-nah-nah-nah-nahhhh-nah.

    :)[/quote]

    so…nine people voted on a vikings message board?

    well then, that must positively indicate the majority preference then

    ditch the white pants for good now

    [quote comment=”359518″]Mizzou’s slogan should be “how the hell did we get included in this?”[/quote]

    Awesome.

    Adding to that, TCU’s slogan should be “Seriously?”. It can be used on two levels – We’re seriously included in this? And, that’s seriously our uniform?

    [quote comment=”359556″]
    Hey, can you color the pants dark blue and make the stripe down the jersey and pants orange?[/quote]

    Here, this is about as good as I can do without taking a lot longer on it. Just try to visualize past the ugliness of my impatience. Coloring on top of white is easy, turning blue into orange and trying to keep the underlying details is a bit tougher. I’m not exactly a photoshop expert, unfortunately.

    link

    I’m thinking orange socks might be a good idea too, if they were to go with this.

    [quote comment=”359573″][quote comment=”359571″][quote comment=”359570″][quote comment=”359562″]Hey Ricko:

    Put a poll on a Viking forum last night asking if people prefer the white jerseys with the purple pants or white pants. So far purple pants is winning 7-2.

    So, nah-nah-nah-nah-nahhhh-nah.

    :)[/quote]

    Well, everyone knows throwing more color at a uniform solves everything. It’s absolutely positively sure to make the uni better.

    Now, if you support purple pants you really also have to support neon green for Seahawks. You don’t? Oh, so more color ISN’T always the answer. Hmmm, what a concept.

    See my “powder blue tux” post. Up above. Somewhere.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Now you’re just being dishonest. The Vikings using white on purple is no different than the Chiefs using white on red…which I think most would agree works quite well. The Seahawks neon green is about the same as the Vikings using yellow jerseys.[/quote]

    Point remains. Who sez teams MUST wear coloedr pants with white jerseys? Ain’t no rule I’ve ever seen that says that.

    Because Chiefs wear red pants that’s some kind of indicator that the Vikings should wear purple? Coaches didn’t like ’em, players didn’t like ’em and fan reaction when they wore them was negative. I think this is a lot of “I like whatever you aren’t wearing now”, which in turn is like “I like the backup quarterback better, whoever he is. ”

    Although, of course, a poll at a website would get answers from people mostly 40 and under. And they’re the only ones who matter, right?

    How stupid of me to forget that.

    I’ll leave now.

    Seriously.

    ‘Bye.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    You are way too damn sensitive. All I was saying is that your analogy was bad.

    [quote comment=”359545″][quote comment=”359538″][quote comment=”359535″][quote comment=”359525″]Is it just me, or do the Broncos kinda look “right” in orange jerseys? I mean, they are the Orange Crush and all.[/quote]

    It’s just because we all grew up watching them in orange. I think the blue is the better option with their current uniform design.

    …and they aren’t the Orange Crush anymore. The Rams don’t have a Fearsome Foursome, and the Vikings are not eating purple people.[/quote]

    Jerad Allen, Kevin Williams, EJ Henderson, and Antoine Winfield are certainly Purple People Eaters!! I see your point, but then again, orange is a big part of Broncos history.

    I kinda like the orange jerseys in Denver, but I like the blue as well. Just don’t like the all white look. I would pair it with orange pants on the road.[/quote]

    Are you sure about that? I’m not sure if it really works that well…

    link

    Oh, that works, all right. Ditch the blues and keep these!

    [quote comment=”359557″]It’s funny how Australians call their jerseys “Guernseys”, while we called them….well, “Jerseys”. They both happen to be names of Channel Islands. Does another nation call their jerseys “Sarks” or “Alderneys”?[/quote]

    I drive my wife crazy calling jerseys “guernseys”. My logic is on Batman, the state of New Jersey was called New Guernsey. I’m silly that way.

    [quote comment=”359579″]Guernsey and Jersey are breeds of dairy cattle.[/quote]
    True. And like the sweaters, their names are derived from the channel islands where they were originally bred.

    the Va Tech players all look somewhat embarrassed and annoyed at having to model the new Nike unis. hmmm… wonder why… could it be the completely ridiculous and embarrassing stitching pattern on the shoulders?

    [quote comment=”359573″][quote comment=”359571″][quote comment=”359570″][quote comment=”359562″]Hey Ricko:

    Put a poll on a Viking forum last night asking if people prefer the white jerseys with the purple pants or white pants. So far purple pants is winning 7-2.

    So, nah-nah-nah-nah-nahhhh-nah.

    :)[/quote]

    Well, everyone knows throwing more color at a uniform solves everything. It’s absolutely positively sure to make the uni better.

    Now, if you support purple pants you really also have to support neon green for Seahawks. You don’t? Oh, so more color ISN’T always the answer. Hmmm, what a concept.

    See my “powder blue tux” post. Up above. Somewhere.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Now you’re just being dishonest. The Vikings using white on purple is no different than the Chiefs using white on red…which I think most would agree works quite well. The Seahawks neon green is about the same as the Vikings using yellow jerseys.[/quote]

    Point remains. Who sez teams MUST wear coloedr pants with white jerseys? Ain’t no rule I’ve ever seen that says that.

    Because Chiefs wear red pants that’s some kind of indicator that the Vikings should wear purple? Coaches didn’t like ’em, players didn’t like ’em and fan reaction when they wore them was negative. I think this is a lot of “I like whatever you aren’t wearing now”, which in turn is like “I like the backup quarterback better, whoever he is. ”

    Although, of course, a poll at a website would get answers from people mostly 40 and under. And they’re the only ones who matter, right?

    How stupid of me to forget that.

    I’ll leave now.

    Seriously.

    ‘Bye.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    WOW. A bit sensitive aren’t we? I thought my smiley face would show I was just HAVING SOME FUN, but apparently it is sinful to disagree huh?

    “Point remains. Who sez teams MUST wear coloedr pants with white jerseys? Ain’t no rule I’ve ever seen that says that.”

    You mean, kinda like that prevailing thought I see around here that ALL baseball uniforms should be white/white or grey/grey, lest they be dubbed “softball uniforms”? I, let me repeat I I I I I I, think white on white FOOTBALL uniforms, with colored helmets, look like BASEBALL uniforms, and prefer the contrast in football uniforms, but apparently if I express this thought I have to get snipped at?

    And yes, I realize that a 9 person poll on a website is a very small sample size, but excuse me if “your neighbor who did the Viking website” isn’t taken as the end all be all source of public opinion either.

    “I think this is a lot of “I like whatever you aren’t wearing now”, which in turn is like “I like the backup quarterback better, whoever he is.”

    Huh? What the heck does this have to do with anything?

    And what does age have to do with it either? I’m 40 BTW.

    [quote comment=”359583″]I’m 40 BTW.[/quote]

    just waiting for the mike gundy you tubes to start pouring in

    EPL uni-matchup of the weekend would go to Manchester City v. Burnley, in my opinion: link
    I want me a pair of those striped Burnley socks! Those are the home ones, but the visiting ones are white, so they didn’t want the same socks as Man City.

    [quote comment=”359576″][quote comment=”359556″]
    Hey, can you color the pants dark blue and make the stripe down the jersey and pants orange?[/quote]

    Here, this is about as good as I can do without taking a lot longer on it. Just try to visualize past the ugliness of my impatience. Coloring on top of white is easy, turning blue into orange and trying to keep the underlying details is a bit tougher. I’m not exactly a photoshop expert, unfortunately.

    link

    I’m thinking orange socks might be a good idea too, if they were to go with this.[/quote]

    that’s pretty damn good for our purposes jeff

    i did one up in template form here

    i NEVER do mocks with leotard looks, but i made an exception in this case to show how ludicrous it looks

    but lemme add white socks with stripes to that anyway

    Paul, how did it feel holding the Babe’s bat in your hands? You should have had Kirsten take a picture of you calling your shot with it.

    [quote comment=”359591″]ok…same broncos outfit with link

    still looks bad, but much better with proper socks[/quote]
    I’m not sure that’s a uni that works with traditionally-stripèd socks.

    Maybe something link with a big orange section on top and then a thin navy stripe below it?

    while it is just an item at the end of the ticker brushed off by most, i am sad to see the crows changed their look. not that the new one is awful, but link was one of my favourites. and no, it won’t affect me that much, but i do occasionally watch the premiership tuesday nights on pbs for a couple of minutes here and there. i am even considering, at 40, joining the chicago aussie rules football club next summer to bash brain-pans with some meat-head types,and rain all kind’a art fag shit hammers on ’em. and just to further articulate the point that i do kind of get a kick out of the afl, sometimes when i ref football games i signal touchdown like the 40 second mark link

    [quote comment=”359586″]EPL uni-matchup of the weekend would go to Manchester City v. Burnley, in my opinion: link
    I want me a pair of those striped Burnley socks! Those are the home ones, but the visiting ones are white, so they didn’t want the same socks as Man City.[/quote]

    link

    All of them have leaked now.

    UF all blue with white helmet

    Miami all white with half orange half green numbers.

    LSU looks like UW.

    OU all white. The most plain by far.

    Mizzou Black helmets, white black jersey.

    the gray panels on RPI’s socks are ventilation panels. It’s a thinner fabric that you can pretty much see through so that heat can escape.

    Here at Mercyhurst, our NCAA D1 women’s team adopted these same socks and they look terrible.

    It’s a really bad execution of a half-decent idea. I swear it’s made as obvious as possible so people notice this new feature from Bauer.

    [quote comment=”359593″]while it is just an item at the end of the ticker brushed off by most, i am sad to see the crows changed their look. not that the new one is awful, but link was one of my favourites. and no, it won’t affect me that much, but i do occasionally watch the premiership tuesday nights on pbs for a couple of minutes here and there. i am even considering, at 40, joining the chicago aussie rules football club next summer to bash brain-pans with some meat-head types,and rain all kind’a art fag shit hammers on ’em. and just to further articulate the point that i do kind of get a kick out of the afl, sometimes when i ref football games i signal touchdown like the 40 second mark link[/quote]

    That is one awesome video there, Robert. Forgotten how much I enjoyed watch Aussie Rules back in the early 80s on ESPN. The officials have gone casual since then, but their signal is still classy cool.

    Not advocating anything, just thinking out loud: I’d love to know the concussion rates of the non-helmeted Aussies vs. the helmeted Americans. You sure didn’t see any Aussies leading with their heads now, did you?

    Great Cooperstown report; was there for the first time this weekend and to think they only put 15% of their holdings on display at a time is mind-boggling

    [quote comment=”359597″]Photos here if you scroll down…

    link

    You know, after seeing Florida State I was expecting these to be much more “out there” in terms of design. These are pretty much boring as hell.

    They should be slapped around for putting LSU in metallic gold helmets, and I’ve said before that the white Buckeyes helmet was a really stupid thing to do.

    [quote comment=”359595″]All of them have leaked now.

    Miami all white with half orange half green numbers.[/quote]

    Hmm, don’t know about that. Years ago I was messing around designing a uni for a fictional CFL team, the Nova Scotia Tugboats. I pictured red numbers on the left of the jersey and green ones on the right, for port and starboard. Hadn’t even considered single-digit numbers until just now. Anyway, when I saw the results I crumpled up the paper and tossed it in the circular file (which is what the U’s designer should have done years ago…).

    [quote comment=”359602″][quote comment=”359595″]All of them have leaked now.

    Miami all white with half orange half green numbers.[/quote]

    Hmm, don’t know about that. Years ago I was messing around designing a uni for a fictional CFL team, the Nova Scotia Tugboats. I pictured red numbers on the left of the jersey and green ones on the right, for port and starboard. Hadn’t even considered single-digit numbers until just now. Anyway, when I saw the results I crumpled up the paper and tossed it in the circular file (which is what the U’s designer should have done years ago…).[/quote]

    Ah, now that I’ve seen them link they went a different way than I did. I still woulda crumpled up the design…

    link

    There are pics of the Nike whatever they are called uniforms being worn by Ohio State, TCU, LSU, Mizzou and so on

    A lot of people seem to be upset about the LSU helemet, but it is a clear throwback to the version worn in the 40’s, with the single purple stripe included.

    link

    Altogether the LSU uniform looks throwbackish. Because back then they wore the old gold helmet, yellowgold jersey with purple numbers or white jersey with purple number, and white pants. Right now, to me, it appears to be the only throwback uniform LSU has ever gone with.

    [quote comment=”359598″][quote comment=”359593″]while it is just an item at the end of the ticker brushed off by most, i am sad to see the crows changed their look. not that the new one is awful, but link was one of my favourites. and no, it won’t affect me that much, but i do occasionally watch the premiership tuesday nights on pbs for a couple of minutes here and there. i am even considering, at 40, joining the chicago aussie rules football club next summer to bash brain-pans with some meat-head types,and rain all kind’a art fag shit hammers on ’em. and just to further articulate the point that i do kind of get a kick out of the afl, sometimes when i ref football games i signal touchdown like the 40 second mark link[/quote]

    That is one awesome video there, Robert. Forgotten how much I enjoyed watch Aussie Rules back in the early 80s on ESPN. The officials have gone casual since then, but their signal is still classy cool.

    Not advocating anything, just thinking out loud: I’d love to know the concussion rates of the non-helmeted Aussies vs. the helmeted Americans. You sure didn’t see any Aussies leading with their heads now, did you?[/quote]

    fitting that we discuss that in the middle of the swoosh techno revolution convo. yes, i bet they have a lower rate of head injury. bring back the single bar(or no bar), and the barely padded rawlings and wilson helmets of the past, and maybe there wouldn’t be as many human missiles out there. it is odd that the more/better padding they get the more violent it allows the collisions to get.
    okay, i have to take my 37 forms of identification to the thompson centre to get a state id. anyone who knows chicago just shed a tear for me.

    Here’s an interesting topic to debate about what you’re wearing at the hall of fame archives . . . no not the uni, the gloves! The recent trend in in libraries that have vast archives of great value is to forgo the gloves and just WASH YOUR HANDS. It turns out the whites can be just as greasy as your digits and they can often hinder your dexterity/feeling. Read more about it here:

    link

    What do you all think?

    [quote comment=”359605″]http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/new-college-football-uniforms-1307539/

    There are pics of the Nike whatever they are called uniforms being worn by Ohio State, TCU, LSU, Mizzou and so on[/quote]

    I don’t mind the Sooners’ temporary look.

    One thing that looks silly on all of them is it looks like the shirts can be torn off into a half-shirt like in the 70’s & 80’s.

    [quote comment=”359511″]I certainly hope the league fines Polamalu for his uniform addition, although I’m sure they won’t since it’s the darling Steelers.[/quote]

    The Steelers get their share of fines, just like every other team. For example, here’s one uniform fine from last season:
    link

    Wow. I can’t believe that LSU is going to wear those POS. I sorta liked the TCU and FSU designs. But Nike wouldn’t even make the stripe for tOSU wide enough like the real throwbacks. And you dont mess with LSU’s. METALIC GOLD??? REALLY??? I hope that these pics were leaked soon enough for the LSU fans to start a mob and riot agaisnt these.

    [quote comment=”359608″][quote comment=”359598″][quote comment=”359593″]while it is just an item at the end of the ticker brushed off by most, i am sad to see the crows changed their look. not that the new one is awful, but link was one of my favourites. and no, it won’t affect me that much, but i do occasionally watch the premiership tuesday nights on pbs for a couple of minutes here and there. i am even considering, at 40, joining the chicago aussie rules football club next summer to bash brain-pans with some meat-head types,and rain all kind’a art fag shit hammers on ’em. and just to further articulate the point that i do kind of get a kick out of the afl, sometimes when i ref football games i signal touchdown like the 40 second mark link[/quote]

    That is one awesome video there, Robert. Forgotten how much I enjoyed watch Aussie Rules back in the early 80s on ESPN. The officials have gone casual since then, but their signal is still classy cool.

    Not advocating anything, just thinking out loud: I’d love to know the concussion rates of the non-helmeted Aussies vs. the helmeted Americans. You sure didn’t see any Aussies leading with their heads now, did you?[/quote]

    fitting that we discuss that in the middle of the swoosh techno revolution convo. yes, i bet they have a lower rate of head injury. bring back the single bar(or no bar), and the barely padded rawlings and wilson helmets of the past, and maybe there wouldn’t be as many human missiles out there. it is odd that the more/better padding they get the more violent it allows the collisions to get.
    okay, i have to take my 37 forms of identification to the thompson centre to get a state id. anyone who knows chicago just shed a tear for me.[/quote]
    link.

    And never, ever, ever, ever, EVER go to the Secretary of State’s office mid-day. Go right before closing time. Your head will spin with amazement at how quickly those lines can move.

    [quote comment=”359609″]Here’s an interesting topic to debate about what you’re wearing at the hall of fame archives . . . no not the uni, the gloves! The recent trend in in libraries that have vast archives of great value is to forgo the gloves and just WASH YOUR HANDS. It turns out the whites can be just as greasy as your digits and they can often hinder your dexterity/feeling. Read more about it here:

    link

    What do you all think?[/quote]

    Presumably, the author washed his hands several times during the visit, especially after handling someone else’s bat.

    maybe instead of using “fear the spear” for fsu…the entire campaign should just be

    fear the swoosh

    Looking at the leaked pics of the other ProCombat jerseys, I suddenly don’t feel so bad about the VaTech ones. I mean these other ones are just brutal. LSU? Really? Metallic gold helmets? Miami? WTF is that? And is that really orange spirographing on that white jersey? YUCK!

    Just thought I’d throw the 2nd Infantry Division patch out there as a classic Military/Native American imagery mash-up…

    link

    [quote comment=”359618″] LSU? Really? Metallic gold helmets? [/quote]

    Again, the ‘metallic gold helmets’ are like the ones LSU wore in the 1940’s. link

    From what I’ve been told about how the LSU football uniform looked back then, these new ones appear to be quite similar.

    [quote comment=”359576″][quote comment=”359556″]
    Hey, can you color the pants dark blue and make the stripe down the jersey and pants orange?[/quote]

    Here, this is about as good as I can do without taking a lot longer on it. Just try to visualize past the ugliness of my impatience. Coloring on top of white is easy, turning blue into orange and trying to keep the underlying details is a bit tougher. I’m not exactly a photoshop expert, unfortunately.

    link

    I’m thinking orange socks might be a good idea too, if they were to go with this.[/quote]

    Now that I like. Much better than the orange pants, but still adds some orange to the look.

    link

    MU = OK, but too dark to tell
    tOSU = OK for one game, but against Michigan?
    LSU = Without the historical context, I’d say WTF. But OK for a game.
    TCU = Better than what they have now.
    OU = Pretty sweet.
    Miami = Huh?
    Florida = See Miami
    Texas = Why bother, but I bet the back bumper is pretty funny.
    FSU = meh
    VT = I can take it or leave it.

    Entire promotion = Not worth it.

    As an LSU fan and alum, I’m “OK” with them going to a metallic gold shell for one game since there is definite historic precident for it.

    I’m actually really happy with the Mizzou unis, from what the picture shows. I was hoping they would have done more gold/yellow. Maybe gold numbers and pants, but oh well. Can’t wait to see better pics.

    Holy… holy… holy I don’t know, those link were on a uni???

    I think the weird gray panels just look odd because that may be kinesio tape showing through.

    UT was wearing a decal on their helmets last weekend – never got as close look, but it may have been the same Ft Hood decal.

    Entire promotion = Not worth it.

    Well, maybe … but if the old adage that all publicity, even bad publicity, is good publicity, then Nike may have just hit a home run.

    I found a similar NFL jacket like the guy at the Eagles-Cowboys game running for around 100 bucks online. I’m in.

    [quote comment=”359627″]Holy… holy… holy I don’t know, those link were on a uni???

    I think the weird gray panels just look odd because that may be kinesio tape showing through.

    UT was wearing a decal on their helmets last weekend – never got as close look, but it may have been the same Ft Hood decal.[/quote]

    pretty sure they were on both the brooklyn trolley dodgers and the gints…

    will check DDTN for confirmation

    [quote comment=”359624″]http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/new-college-football-uniforms-1307539/

    MU = OK, but too dark to tell
    tOSU = OK for one game, but against Michigan?
    LSU = Without the historical context, I’d say WTF. But OK for a game.
    TCU = Better than what they have now.
    OU = Pretty sweet.
    Miami = Huh?
    Florida = See Miami
    Texas = Why bother, but I bet the back bumper is pretty funny.
    FSU = meh
    VT = I can take it or leave it.

    Entire promotion = Not worth it.[/quote]
    Isn’t hard to reall know if you like the uniforms with only the one look at each? I’m reserving judgment until I can see the entire thing.

    How did everyone miss the Giants’ ghosted Reebok logos? Eli definitely had a ghosted one.

    Oh, and BTW Paul, I’m just getting used to Windows 7, so I’ll need some time to get anything about my Madden mods going.

    If anyone wants a uni mod done for Madden, email me at link.

    Not quite Uni related, but New York has released its new “retro” license plates — which will become standard beginning in April.

    link

    [quote comment=”359633″]How did everyone miss the Giants’ ghosted Reebok logos? Eli definitely had a ghosted one.[/quote]

    wha?

    we’ve been discussing that, off an on, for weeks now…joe skiba even infomed us on friday that sunday would mark the last of the ghosted logos, since they’re getting new jerseys in for their next game

    [quote comment=”359636″][quote comment=”359631″]yep

    link and link had em in 1938

    as did the link[/quote]
    I would pretty much kill for a photo…. wow, so cool![/quote]

    tough to make out the patch, but here

    who’s the fat guy on the right?

    [quote comment=”359634″]Not quite Uni related, but New York has released its new “retro” license plates — which will become standard beginning in April.

    link

    Total crap! Did the Bills design that? NY’s plates link and they were solid.

    dammit…here’s that 1938 yankees again

    looks like the iron horse took a scissors to his sleeves…and here we all thought big klu was the first to rock the guns

    Re: the notches on the Babes bat.

    Did he hit up to twelve homeruns using a single bat without breaking it? Seems like they may have been made a touch better back in the day.

    The horrendous uniforms have also been leaked here…

    link

    Our regular uniforms are white… we even use white pants with regular frequency. How is this supposed to be special or “different”?

    A load of crap is what it is, and I’m usually a fan of Nike wear.

    Im with whoever said it earlier, one pic is not enough to decide good or bad. at least wait for more pictures, if not just wait til you see em in action. nothin against your ‘first opinion’ or any of that, it just seems silly to make judgments based on one small, dark picture. just sayin. and why does nike have to do this in a year that seven of these ten teams are on the road for their ‘rivalry game’?

    I really hate the fact that the Ohuo State alternates are being called throwbacks by too many people and in the media.

    ESPNU guy just called them throwbacks to the 1950’s

    [quote comment=”359640″]dammit…here’s that link again

    looks like the iron horse took a scissors to his sleeves…and here we all thought big klu was the first to rock the guns[/quote]

    Nice picture of the 38 Yankees

    [quote comment=”359639″][quote comment=”359634″]Not quite Uni related, but New York has released its new “retro” license plates — which will become standard beginning in April.

    link

    Total crap! Did the Bills design that? NY’s plates link and they were solid.[/quote]
    Yep. NY’s old plate design may not have been spectacular, but I’ll agree that it was solid. It’s one of the few I remember from my youth (California and Pennsylvania being two others).

    I guess I’ll reserve judgment until I see the new ones in action (heh), but I’m not digging the contrasting-color “yoke.” It’s a definite downgrade from the current look.

    [quote comment=\”359476\”]So, suspenders UNDER the stars jersey right?!? Seems simple enough… Horrible![/quote]A belt and suspenders? Dude, never trust a guy who can’t trust his own pants.

    [quote comment=”359649″][quote comment=”359639″][quote comment=”359634″]Not quite Uni related, but New York has released its new “retro” license plates — which will become standard beginning in April.

    link

    Total crap! Did the Bills design that? NY’s plates link and they were solid.[/quote]
    Yep. NY’s old plate design may not have been spectacular, but I’ll agree that it was solid. It’s one of the few I remember from my youth (California and Pennsylvania being two others).

    I guess I’ll reserve judgment until I see the new ones in action (heh), but I’m not digging the contrasting-color “yoke.” It’s a definite downgrade from the current look.[/quote]

    it’s totally unnecessary…we got the current design (yep, that’s my plate) only about 6 years ago…and were told they’d “be good for 10 or more years”

    the problem is gov. paterson has gotten NY into such a financial mess (we’re oh…about 8 billion in the hole) that the new plate measure was passed last april as a means of generating revenue (of course, the revenue will only be in the hundreds of millions — not chump change to be sure, but one of a few hundred new taxes and fees)…the “old” (and they’re not that old) plates are fine…so this is simply “change for change sake” (and revenue generation)…sound familiar?

    for those with ‘regular’ plates, yeah…the charge will “only” be $25…but for anyone with custom plates, the charges will be considerably higher…probably means that when my renewal comes up, there go my plates

    fuckers

    [quote comment=”359537″]a local Maryland High School Soccer team won the state championship last night and celebrated by pimping a pro team’s banner

    link

    What’s that all about????[/quote]

    Crystal Palace FC in England has a sister club in America named Crystal Palace FC USA. The play in the 2nd Division of the United Soccer League here in the States. They are headquartered in Baltimore.

    link

    [quote comment=”359650″][quote comment=\”359476\”]So, suspenders UNDER the stars jersey right?!? Seems simple enough… Horrible![/quote]A belt and suspenders? Dude, never trust a guy who can’t trust his own pants.[/quote]
    Actually being a “belt and suspenders” guy (in many businesses) means you go out of your way to make sure you’re not inadvertently violating any laws or regulations about the business. It’s what I do.

    so if these are suppose to be “rivalry” jerseys or if they are all supposed to be worn the same weekend, Florida will be playing Florida State. Will we be seeing a color vs. color game?

    [quote comment=”359653″][quote comment=”359650″][quote comment=\”359476\”]So, suspenders UNDER the stars jersey right?!? Seems simple enough… Horrible![/quote]A belt and suspenders? Dude, never trust a guy who can’t trust his own pants.[/quote]
    Actually being a “belt and suspenders” guy (in many businesses) means you go out of your way to make sure you’re not inadvertently violating any laws or regulations about the business. It’s what I do.[/quote]

    Are you a plumber?

    [quote comment=”359632″][quote comment=”359624″]http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/new-college-football-uniforms-1307539/

    MU = OK, but too dark to tell
    tOSU = OK for one game, but against Michigan?
    LSU = Without the historical context, I’d say WTF. But OK for a game.
    TCU = Better than what they have now.
    OU = Pretty sweet.
    Miami = Huh?
    Florida = See Miami
    Texas = Why bother, but I bet the back bumper is pretty funny.
    FSU = meh
    VT = I can take it or leave it.

    Entire promotion = Not worth it.[/quote]
    Isn’t hard to reall know if you like the uniforms with only the one look at each? I’m reserving judgment until I can see the entire thing.[/quote]
    I’m not. I hate them. Beginning with the swoosh.

    As for Mizzou…..hate it. Black and white combo should be saved for the Raiders. Only. MU’s colors include gold. Thought that was set up like a million years ago.

    Back to a conversation of yesteryear, I do think it is within reach for a school to TURN DOWN THE MONEY and not join in the d-baggery. Try it. It might make you feel good! These top of the athletic world schools with their AMAZING training facilities and brazillion dollar endowments are not hurting like the joe public high school sports programs. To be pawns of the shoe companies, billboards of a for-profit corporate monster, my guess does not fit into an institution’s mission statement. Most of which are government institutions. Okay, so it is a biproduct of the bigger picture. Nope. Don’t buy it. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Try a different approach OTHER than folding to these marketeers. I don’t blame Nike. I do think collegiate administration ought to take a harsher look at this. They have allowed Nike (and television) to turn a “college football match” into a corporate battle zone of comic book super villains and video game characters. 18-22 year olds. This could go on and on into the whole conversation of pay for play, minimum academic elgibility requirements, graduation rates, colleges acting as minor leagues, exactly what should be an “institute of higer learning”‘s reason for having athletic departments, etc. I’m too tired to take all that on so I guess I’ll just live with it. Yuk.

    [quote comment=”359641″]Re: the notches on the Babes bat.

    Did he hit up to twelve homeruns using a single bat without breaking it? Seems like they may have been made a touch better back in the day.[/quote]

    I’ve held a replica of that bat at the Louisville Slugger Museum. it’s a piece of lumber to say the least. I can’t imagine what would break it. it’s a 2×4 that has been shaped into a bat. none of that thin bat handle stuff like today. it’s a very solid bat. very.

    [quote comment=”359657″]As far as I’m concerned, the more we talk about Aussie Rules football, the better.[/quote]

    Phil, you wanted to do some pieces on other football leagues – how ’bout the Aussies, mate?

    [quote comment=\”359644\”]What\’s the deal with this logo?? I don\’t get it.

    link
    Hartford is an hour away from New London/Groton, which is the home of the US Sub Fleet & the whole idea of multiple submarines as a \”wolfpack\”

    [quote comment=”359659″][quote comment=”359657″]As far as I’m concerned, the more we talk about Aussie Rules football, the better.[/quote]

    Phil, you wanted to do some pieces on other football leagues – how ’bout the Aussies, mate?[/quote]

    There is an article coming soon. Trust me.

    Heard on the radio this evening that there are rumors that the University of Arkansas will be making the switch from adidas to Nike, next year.

    [quote comment=”359662″]Heard on the radio this evening that there are rumors that the University of Arkansas will be making the switch from adidas to Nike, next year.[/quote]

    It’s confirmed. link

    “- As for Gehrig’s cap, there’s something really nice about that smaller “NY” logo, no? Wish they’d go back to that.”

    Yup, that’s the first thing I thought.

    [quote comment=”359660″][quote comment=\”359644\”]What\’s the deal with this logo?? I don\’t get it.

    link
    Hartford is an hour away from New London/Groton, which is the home of the US Sub Fleet & the whole idea of multiple submarines as a \”wolfpack\”[/quote]

    Groton, Connecticutt is the home of General Dynamics, which manufactures submarines.

    link

    As a kid driving to Cape Cod, I couldn’t wait to go over the bridge that overlooks their hangar? as well as the Sikorsky headquarters at the end of the Merritt parkway.

    link

    [quote comment=”359660″][quote comment=\”359644\”]What\’s the deal with this logo?? I don\’t get it.

    link
    Hartford is an hour away from New London/Groton, which is the home of the US Sub Fleet & the whole idea of multiple submarines as a \”wolfpack\”[/quote]

    Groton, Connecticutt is the home of General Dynamics, which manufactures Submarines, among other military vehicles.

    As a kid, My parents would drive up route 95 to Cape Cod and pass the GD plant on the way. Those two sights would make the 5 hour drive worthwhile.

    link

    link

    quote comment=”359660″][quote comment=\”359644\”]What\’s the deal with this logo?? I don\’t get it.

    link
    Hartford is an hour away from New London/Groton, which is the home of the US Sub Fleet & the whole idea of multiple submarines as a \”wolfpack\”[/quote]

    Groton, Connecticutt is the home of General Dynamics, which manufactures Submarines, among other military vehicles.

    As a kid, My parents would drive up route 95 to Cape Cod and pass the GD plant on the way. Those two sights would make the 5 hour drive worthwhile.

    link

    link

    [quote comment=”359656″][quote comment=”359632″][quote comment=”359624″]http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/new-college-football-uniforms-1307539/

    MU = OK, but too dark to tell
    tOSU = OK for one game, but against Michigan?
    LSU = Without the historical context, I’d say WTF. But OK for a game.
    TCU = Better than what they have now.
    OU = Pretty sweet.
    Miami = Huh?
    Florida = See Miami
    Texas = Why bother, but I bet the back bumper is pretty funny.
    FSU = meh
    VT = I can take it or leave it.

    Entire promotion = Not worth it.[/quote]
    Isn’t hard to reall know if you like the uniforms with only the one look at each? I’m reserving judgment until I can see the entire thing.[/quote]
    I’m not. I hate them. Beginning with the swoosh.

    As for Mizzou…..hate it. Black and white combo should be saved for the Raiders. Only. MU’s colors include gold. Thought that was set up like a million years ago.

    Back to a conversation of yesteryear, I do think it is within reach for a school to TURN DOWN THE MONEY and not join in the d-baggery. Try it. It might make you feel good! These top of the athletic world schools with their AMAZING training facilities and brazillion dollar endowments are not hurting like the joe public high school sports programs. To be pawns of the shoe companies, billboards of a for-profit corporate monster, my guess does not fit into an institution’s mission statement. Most of which are government institutions. Okay, so it is a biproduct of the bigger picture. Nope. Don’t buy it. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Try a different approach OTHER than folding to these marketeers. I don’t blame Nike. I do think collegiate administration ought to take a harsher look at this. They have allowed Nike (and television) to turn a “college football match” into a corporate battle zone of comic book super villains and video game characters. 18-22 year olds. This could go on and on into the whole conversation of pay for play, minimum academic elgibility requirements, graduation rates, colleges acting as minor leagues, exactly what should be an “institute of higer learning”‘s reason for having athletic departments, etc. I’m too tired to take all that on so I guess I’ll just live with it. Yuk.[/quote]

    I don’t like it any more than the next guy, but you think a university or college is going to turn down millions of dollars for basically what amounts to doing nothing? Gee, we wear uniforms now. What if we wore uniforms and also got paid $1M a year?

    And unfortunately we who watch the uniworld are just a small percentage of sports fans, all these uniform changes will largely go unnoticed or will go noticed and people just won’t/don’t care. Do most people care if FSU is wearing nike combat uniforms or do they just want to come close to being competetive with UF on that day? Most people are going to think gee their uniforms are a little different today, oh well, these minute changes to the uniforms equate to nothing more than a few seconds thought and its gone.

    [quote comment=”359663″][quote comment=”359662″]Heard on the radio this evening that there are rumors that the University of Arkansas will be making the switch from adidas to Nike, next year.[/quote]

    It’s confirmed. link

    wonder what nike will do with the design, its already been manhandled by adidas a couple years ago… but can nike keep the design? i know when the more simple schools switch the design stays the same, like OU etc.

    [quote comment=”359668″][quote comment=”359656″][quote comment=”359632″][quote comment=”359624″]http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/new-college-football-uniforms-1307539/

    MU = OK, but too dark to tell
    tOSU = OK for one game, but against Michigan?
    LSU = Without the historical context, I’d say WTF. But OK for a game.
    TCU = Better than what they have now.
    OU = Pretty sweet.
    Miami = Huh?
    Florida = See Miami
    Texas = Why bother, but I bet the back bumper is pretty funny.
    FSU = meh
    VT = I can take it or leave it.

    Entire promotion = Not worth it.[/quote]
    Isn’t hard to reall know if you like the uniforms with only the one look at each? I’m reserving judgment until I can see the entire thing.[/quote]
    I’m not. I hate them. Beginning with the swoosh.

    As for Mizzou…..hate it. Black and white combo should be saved for the Raiders. Only. MU’s colors include gold. Thought that was set up like a million years ago.

    Back to a conversation of yesteryear, I do think it is within reach for a school to TURN DOWN THE MONEY and not join in the d-baggery. Try it. It might make you feel good! These top of the athletic world schools with their AMAZING training facilities and brazillion dollar endowments are not hurting like the joe public high school sports programs. To be pawns of the shoe companies, billboards of a for-profit corporate monster, my guess does not fit into an institution’s mission statement. Most of which are government institutions. Okay, so it is a biproduct of the bigger picture. Nope. Don’t buy it. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Try a different approach OTHER than folding to these marketeers. I don’t blame Nike. I do think collegiate administration ought to take a harsher look at this. They have allowed Nike (and television) to turn a “college football match” into a corporate battle zone of comic book super villains and video game characters. 18-22 year olds. This could go on and on into the whole conversation of pay for play, minimum academic elgibility requirements, graduation rates, colleges acting as minor leagues, exactly what should be an “institute of higer learning”‘s reason for having athletic departments, etc. I’m too tired to take all that on so I guess I’ll just live with it. Yuk.[/quote]

    I don’t like it any more than the next guy, but you think a university or college is going to turn down millions of dollars for basically what amounts to doing nothing? Gee, we wear uniforms now. What if we wore uniforms and also got paid $1M a year?

    And unfortunately we who watch the uniworld are just a small percentage of sports fans, all these uniform changes will largely go unnoticed or will go noticed and people just won’t/don’t care. Do most people care if FSU is wearing nike combat uniforms or do they just want to come close to being competetive with UF on that day? Most people are going to think gee their uniforms are a little different today, oh well, these minute changes to the uniforms equate to nothing more than a few seconds thought and its gone.[/quote]
    Isn’t it sad that the vast majority doesn’t see/understand/value good design? I too am an architect and appreciate your thoughts, Tom V. Having worked with a number of school boards as well (I read what you said in the past few days–well put) it always amazes me how many people simply do not pay any attention to their surroundings and feel that something “designed” to create a better learning environment is simply unneeded fluff and wasted money. Anyway — maybe it’s my nieve character, but YES. I do think it is possible to turn down millions rather than whore out to something I don’t believe in. But, then again like you said, we are the few and they are the many.

    [quote comment=”359659″][quote comment=”359657″]As far as I’m concerned, the more we talk about Aussie Rules football, the better.[/quote]

    Phil, you wanted to do some pieces on other football leagues – how ’bout the Aussies, mate?[/quote]

    done

    Columbus Dispatch take on tOSU uniforms via the Des Moines Register:

    “Generally, those who consider the alternate uniform a fashion faux pas break into three camps, with some crossover: those who see no reason to mess with tradition, those who think the tail (Nike) is wagging the dog (OSU) and those bothered by the historical inaccuracy of the uniforms”

    link

    Thanks for the input Traxel.

    “…it always amazes me how many people simply do not pay any attention to their surroundings and feel that something “designed” to create a better learning environment is simply unneeded fluff and wasted money…”

    One of the most frustrating things I can think of. I can’t believe people would be happy sending their kid to a portable city for 12+ years to learn.

    Anyway, I agree with you, I wish there was a way to keep the unneccesary elements out, combat uniforms, really?

    Yep, simply unneeded fluff.

    [quote comment=”359669″][quote comment=”359663″][quote comment=”359662″]Heard on the radio this evening that there are rumors that the University of Arkansas will be making the switch from adidas to Nike, next year.[/quote]

    It’s confirmed. link

    wonder what nike will do with the design, its already been manhandled by adidas a couple years ago… but can nike keep the design? i know when the more simple schools switch the design stays the same, like OU etc.[/quote]

    The design that the football team has now is terrible. Especially when they go monochrome. Too busy and has that “just one more bumper sticker and it’ll be perfect” thing going.
    Nike can have clean designs. I imagine it’ll just be up to the school and how they want it to look.
    The basketball unis are quite nice and I hope that they don’t change.
    From a football standpoint, going back to the 2007 design would be perfect. I don’t see that happening, though.

    [quote comment=”359580″][quote comment=”359557″]It’s funny how Australians call their jerseys “Guernseys”, while we called them….well, “Jerseys”. They both happen to be names of Channel Islands. Does another nation call their jerseys “Sarks” or “Alderneys”?[/quote]

    I drive my wife crazy calling jerseys “guernseys”. My logic is on Batman, the state of New Jersey was called New Guernsey. I’m silly that way.[/quote]

    Oh Man….. all day, I’ve been thinking about those episodes of Batman b/c of that Aussie Rules post!!!!! too funny.

    [quote comment=”359673″]Thanks for the input Traxel.

    “…it always amazes me how many people simply do not pay any attention to their surroundings and feel that something “designed” to create a better learning environment is simply unneeded fluff and wasted money…”

    One of the most frustrating things I can think of. I can’t believe people would be happy sending their kid to a portable city for 12+ years to learn.

    Anyway, I agree with you, I wish there was a way to keep the unneccesary elements out, combat uniforms, really?

    Yep, simply unneeded fluff.[/quote]
    Portable cities. Nothing disappoints me more than seeing a bunch of trailors outside a school and knowing they are full of kids. Boards call them “temporary classrooms”. Except temporary tends to last for decades. Drop me an email some time Tom V. I’m not too hard to find on the interwebs.

    Does anyone know how many slogans Nike uses are invented by Nike vs how many they just borrow and use to promote and put on t-shirts?

    I’ve heard a lot of these new Pro Combat slogans before. And, for example, when I was up in Oregon I saw a Nike shirt with just Autzen Zoo on it. That’s been around before that shirt was.

    [quote comment=”359675″][quote comment=”359580″][quote comment=”359557″]It’s funny how Australians call their jerseys “Guernseys”, while we called them….well, “Jerseys”. They both happen to be names of Channel Islands. Does another nation call their jerseys “Sarks” or “Alderneys”?[/quote]

    I drive my wife crazy calling jerseys “guernseys”. My logic is on Batman, the state of New Jersey was called New Guernsey. I’m silly that way.[/quote]

    Oh Man….. all day, I’ve been thinking about those episodes of Batman b/c of that Aussie Rules post!!!!! too funny.[/quote]

    I LOVE your handle/screenname! Three seasons was not nearly enough.

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    [quote comment=”359534″][quote comment=”359524″][quote comment=”359489″]I wish someone at Va Tech would suggest wearing the Ft Hood memorial decal, what with their cadet presence on campus; also like to see Nike’s reaction to something they didn’t design being applied to the Combat uni.[/quote]
    Why? Why would VT even want to do that? The only connection that VT has to the shooting is that the shooter went to the school 2 decades ago. And with how the school is trying to move on from the shit that has happened to its own current students in previous years (April 16th, beheading last year, disappearance of VT student at Metallica concert at UVa this year) I don’t think it would be in their best interests to draw more attention to bad things associated with the school.

    Its a good thought, but its a gesture best left to the schools immediately surrounding Ft. Hood.[/quote]

    i meant as a gesture of solidarity toward the survivors. btw, baylor and texas are both closer to ft hood than a&m and i haven’t heard that they will be wearing the decals.[/quote]
    A&M also has a much larger military presence on campus than either UT or Baylor. It’s a Senior Military College, which means it can commission active officers, even though it’s not a military academy.

    [quote comment=”359535″][quote comment=”359525″]Is it just me, or do the Broncos kinda look “right” in orange jerseys? I mean, they are the Orange Crush and all.[/quote]

    It’s just because we all grew up watching them in orange. I think the blue is the better option with their current uniform design.

    …and they aren’t the Orange Crush anymore. The Rams don’t have a Fearsome Foursome, and the Vikings are not eating purple people.[/quote]

    Really liked the orange last night for Denver. Great look. Now all they need is #7 to play QB..

    Probably no one will see this comment since it is decently late in the night, but let’s try anyways–

    In the photos of the Rivalry Uniforms (check Texas, Miami, and LSU) there is a distinct swoosh on the thigh pads. Does Nike make their own pads for their pants? Obviously shoulder pads are done elsewhere, but I have no clue about the manufacture of pants padding.

    Seems like a crappy (but probably legitimate) loophole for logo creep. Hopefully this is only something that will show up in these leaked pictures, never reaching the gridiron.

    [quote comment=”359612″]Wow. I can’t believe that LSU is going to wear those POS. I sorta liked the TCU and FSU designs. But Nike wouldn’t even make the stripe for tOSU wide enough like the real throwbacks. And you dont mess with LSU’s. METALIC GOLD??? REALLY??? I hope that these pics were leaked soon enough for the LSU fans to start a mob and riot agaisnt these.[/quote]

    LSU actually wore metallic/Old Gold into the early 1950s, when they switched to the current “Athletic” Gold (Yellow). Steve Van Buren & Y.A. Tittle wore Old Gold head to toe – Helmet/Jersey/Pants.

    [quote comment=”359682″]Probably no one will see this comment since it is decently late in the night, but let’s try anyways–

    In the photos of the Rivalry Uniforms (check Texas, Miami, and LSU) there is a distinct swoosh on the thigh pads. Does Nike make their own pads for their pants? Obviously shoulder pads are done elsewhere, but I have no clue about the manufacture of pants padding.

    Seems like a crappy (but probably legitimate) loophole for logo creep. Hopefully this is only something that will show up in these leaked pictures, never reaching the gridiron.[/quote]

    Let’s be honest. These “rivalry” unis exist only to promote nike. Nothing more.

    Most of these unis have no point to them sat all.They are not Throwbackks, they are not really “alternates” and they are not even novelties or improvements to anything – even for variety’s sake.

    White over White on a bunch of these? Why? What does it have to offer?

    Let’s call it what it is, A lost opportunity for some needed variety, and Nike DOUCHEBAGGERY for Douchebaggery’s sake …..

    [quote comment=”359678″]Three seasons was not nearly enough.

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    You got that right.

    And if the dipshits at Fox had their way, season 2 would never have seen the light of day. “Unfortunately” for those douchebags, the show won a shitload of Emmy awards, Golden Globes, Writers’ Guild awards, etc. and they pretty much had no choice but to bring it back.

    [quote comment=”359685″][quote comment=”359678″]Three seasons was not nearly enough.

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    You got that right.

    And if the dipshits at Fox had their way, season 2 would never have seen the light of day. “Unfortunately” for those douchebags, the show won a shitload of Emmy awards, Golden Globes, Writers’ Guild awards, etc. and they pretty much had no choice but to bring it back.[/quote]

    good thing for DVDs and Sundance or is it IFC?
    Love that show… miss the constant look of bewilderment on Jason Bateman’s face. :)

    [quote comment=”359564″][quote comment=”359557″]It’s funny how Australians call their jerseys “Guernseys”, while we called them….well, “Jerseys”. They both happen to be names of Channel Islands. Does another nation call their jerseys “Sarks” or “Alderneys”?[/quote]
    Actually, before they got their modern-day connotations, guernsey and jersey were two specific types of sweater. They both got their respective names from those Channel Islands.[/quote]

    Didn’t know that. Thanks. :>)

    [quote comment=”359580″][quote comment=”359557″]It’s funny how Australians call their jerseys “Guernseys”, while we called them….well, “Jerseys”. They both happen to be names of Channel Islands. Does another nation call their jerseys “Sarks” or “Alderneys”?[/quote]

    I drive my wife crazy calling jerseys “guernseys”. My logic is on Batman, the state of New Jersey was called New Guernsey. I’m silly that way.[/quote]

    lol

    You want Otis Shepard…here is some Otis Shepard. Here is a website with a lot of old Cubs scorecards and a lot of Otis’ work

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    Pretty sure those are mics on the umpires hat. Don’t know if the fuzziness is a “camera trick” or they got wet but I’ve noticed the dual bumps on NFL umpires cap brims this season. I’ve also noted from watching games that there is clearer background audio that sounds as if its coming from the players, particularly the QB signals

    The NFL has been wiring the umpire for years. That’s how you can hear the QB signals. I’d like to know how far it goes back. I bet close to 10 years. Surely some production guy at a network would know. These wind inhibiting muffs are the fuzziest I have ever seen though.

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