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Just One More Bumper Sticker…

and the uniform will be perfect…

bumper sticker

By Phil Hecken, with Rick Pearson

You may have heard the phrase before, since I used it last weekend quite a bit. “Just One More Bumper Sticker” syndrome is a phrase my running mate, Rick Pearson (aka “Ricko”) and I use to describe a (typically) football uniform that has one unique (or semi-unique) design element, but instead of just plain leaving well enough alone, the designers have to add one (or more) unnecessary, superfluous or extraneous element(s) rendering the entire uniform … well … not good. The “design” may look great on paper, or more likely, in Adobe or some other photoshop-type program, but it fails when actually put on a human being. Stick with me here.

With the official first weekend of NFL football finally upon us, and with Paul’s most-awaited column of the year (in my opinion, anyway) posted last Wednesday, Ricko and I are going to look at some of the uniforms on the NFL that suffer from OMBS (“one more bumper sticker”) syndrome, or are just a tweak or two away from looking REALLY good. We’re not touching the classics, we’re not talking about changing colors, logos or helmets — we’re just going to look at several teams whose uniforms are thisclose to being very good or great. Today, we will examine the five most egregious violators of uniform protocol — the Cards, Falcons, Bills, Rick’s own Vikings and the Bengals. With just a few minor tweaks (OK, in some cases they may be more than minor), we can improve these uniforms. Of course, many of you will disagree, but that’s OK because these are just our opinions. But when all is said and done, we think you’ll agree, the minor changes we’re suggesting will be changes for the better. OK? Good, let’s set the ground rules.

Ricko sets the parameters:

* We see it more as “editing” than redesigning.

* We stay inside the current design elements.

* That means…
> No color changes.
> No logo changes.

* We just clean up the overkill, the excess in “bumper stickers”, show a little restraint.

* We will consider past unis in making minor modifications.

* No dark monochrome combinations will be considered. (Well, Rick thinks there are a few that work OK)

Rick also wants to stress that we’re “not saying EVERYONE should make these, not at all. Just that if a few did, it would diminish the now-getting-routine proliferation of panels, yokes, wandering piping and meandering pants stripes.”

Many of the new looks are fun, and we left them alone. We’re also giving the Broncos a “full and complete pardon,” since, although that uniform may have been the precursor to the side panel and truncated stripe madness, they were the originator of that look. That’s good enough for us — you invent it, you keep it, it’s yours. We just think if a few teams would pull back on such things a little, there’d actually be more variety in NFL uniforms.

Ready?

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Arizona Cardinals: The southwest birds underwent a major uni overhaul only a scant few years ago, going from one of the all time classics to one of the worst OMBS teams. Seriously — WTF? You’ve got shoulders that are a different color (on the roads) than the rest of the uni, little “panels” within those shoulder blotches, weird stripes running down the sides of the jersey, and some amorphous truncated stripe on the pants. Too much. So, what can we do to improve this cacophony of offensive visual malacuity?

Lets start by removing the side panels truncated pants “stripe”. This way, we keep the feel for the uniform, but remove the extra bumper stickers. Oh yeah, adding striped socks is a must too. The Cards don’t look too bad in red pants, so we take the same approach there — ok, maybe they need a real stripe. You want to add a throwbackish stripe instead (and some ‘matching’ socks)? Maybe that’s pushing it. Personally, I loved the ‘all white look‘ of the last generation of uniforms, so if I had my way, I’d remove the shoulder red, give them some real shoulder stripes, and stick the old logo on there for good measure. But that’s probably just wishful thinking.

For the home uniform, while it’s already better now than the road (at least being solid red, for the most part), it still suffers from the random white panels & unneeded black piping — plus those awful pants. If we remove the bumper stickers, and properly stripe the pants, here’s what we get. Not bad, right? Only other tweak you could make is to put the Cardinal logo back on the sleeve.

We start with the Cardinals because they seem to exemplify the alarming trend of making the pro’s unis look like NCAA Division II schools. Let’s keep that sort of stuff back in the college game. But the Cardinals are far from alone.

bumper sticker falcons

Atlanta Falcons: The southeast birds very much like the Cardinals. And again, this is only one or two less bumper stickers away from being a really good uniform. Especially when you consider that this season, the Falcons are throwing back with this beauty. Their current uni set (notice the beautiful throwbacks in that template) is light years away from anything resembling an NFL uniform, but with a few minor changes, it would look pretty damn good.

Simply removing the multicolored “chips” in the shoulders, and eliminating the superfluous side piping and truncated pants stripes yields a very respectable uni set. Of course, those shoulder colorizations could certainly go too.

One element about the Falcons uniforms is, if you take away the extraneous junk, you can dress them in several different (although no monochrome red or black) unis and they’ll look good in all of them. Seriously. All-white, black over red (hey, we like the red pants), red over black (just make sure the socks are a different color), red over white, white over red (even looks good without stripes), or black over white. It’s all good! They like to play mix-and-match, and we like that. Just get rid of the extra bumper stickers.

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Buffalo Bills: OK, we think most of us agree this is the worst uniform in the NFL. It’s always running neck and neck with the Bengals (we’ll get to them shortly), but surely, it’s up there. It would probably take more than the removal of a few bumper stickers to get them looking anywhere near as good as the AFL throwbacks they’re sporting this season, but we’ll give it a shot. We can certainly improve the uni without too much effort. As with the first two offenders, we’ll need to remove the side panels and start there.

Simply getting rid of the panels is an immense improvement. But it’s still not very good. Yet. See, the Bills are one of those teams who think monochrome white (not terrible) or monochrome blue (awful, awful, awful) is a good look. Simply pairing the white top with blue pants is an improvement. Conversely, pairing the blue top with white pants is much better. (Ricko tweaks that look a tad further by adding the logo to the jersey and moving the TV numbers to the shoulders.) But it’s still a mess — two different colors (and not all that complimentary either) of blue, red helmet, shoulder “yoke” (for lack of a better term). Feh.

We strive to keep at least one unique element when tweaking the uniforms, and it appears as though the Bills are alone in that shoulder yoke. But do they really need a two color yoke on their road unis? No. So, lets keep the outline and decide on one color blue for the jerseys and pants. Not a fan of the navy? We’re not either, they’re more of a royal blue kind of team. See? Much better.

We’ve eliminated the visual cacophony that is the current uni. Now, lets fix the home jersey by simply keeping the minor adjustments and putting them in a more appropriate royal blue. Is it as good as this? Hell no. Like most people on the planet, we’d prefer they adopt that full time. But is this better than this? You be the judge.

On a quick side note, Ricko and I disagree on at least one point concerning the Bills. I wouldn’t mind seeing them in a red jersey (with throwback helmet) or especially in their current lids. Rick, however, remembers the Bills in royal blue, so to him, that red jersey is anathema. Hey, we can’t always be in agreement.

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Minnesota Vikings: One of the more egregious offenders in the bumper sticker syndrome department. Actually, the Vikings have what appears to be a very cool and unique element to their uniforms — the attempted “replication” of the helmet horn on the jersey sleeve. Or, at least that’s what we’d like to believe. But, like the others, they take it too far by adding the ridiculous panel. And then there’s the pants. Piping and truncated striping again. Make it stop.

Our solution for the Vikings is relatively simple. Ricko simply removes the superfluous side panel to create the illusion of a horn, and of course, gives them normal pants stripes. I took that a bit further by putting an actual horn on the sleeve. Either way, it’s an improvement.

For the away jerseys, you could put the actual Viking on the sleeve, continue the “shoulder treatment” (as Ricko suggested), or go with purple horn (similar to the home mockup). I really like Ricko’s idea the best here.

Simple, keeping a nice unique design element (viking horn replicated on shoulder), and cleaning up the excess bumper stickers. Done.

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Cincinnati Bengals: Viewed by many as the worst uniform in all of football (or at least a close second to the Bills), this could easily be a great and distinctive uniform, but for all the extra clutter bumper stickers. I mean, c’mon … seriously? Yet, the Bengals are very unique in distinct with their “tiger stripe” helmet and shoulder pads, but they get carried away with the panels, piping, etc. Our solution to the Bengals is surprisingly simple, but it fits in with the above teams. Lets dump the junk and focus on a truly cool element. And give them some real pants stripes. And no monochrome black.

The Cincy club is another who like to “mix and match” various tops and bottoms. That’s OK. We’ll start with the white over white. Now, damn! That’s a pretty good looking uniform, right there. But the white jersey, currently is the only one without the stupid panel down the side, so that’s an easy fix. How about black over white? Nice right? Keeps the stripes prominently but not to the point of beating a dead horse. And since real bengal tigers are more orange than black, Ricko thinks the orange jersey should be their main jersey, rather than the alt. I think we could all enjoy seeing this six or eight times a season. The key element here, though, is the white pants — they really look good with any of those three jerseys.

What about the black pants? Well, we’d prefer they don’t wear them, but as long as they will, we need to put on real stripes and make sure the socks are not black. What about on orange top? We’re getting a little crazy, here but OK. Still beats what they wear now. Finally, they don’t actually wear orange pants, but again, how about we replace those black ones? It’s a tad loud, but it could work. Better orange than black.

And we’ve still kept the unique helmet and shoulder stripes, which are the essence of the Bengals, and the beginning of a much better uniform. At least we think so.

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Lime Green Hawks? On another note, the rumor mill is still ablaze about a possible Seahawks alternate — the one Paul wrote about on April Fool’s Day. Paul alluded to it in his NFL preview column, and we’ve all seen the leaked Madden screen grab. Even UW’s resident Seahawk uber-fan, and the man behind greenglare.com, Michael Princip has come up with a concept.

God save us all. Of course, Ricko and I are on opposite ends of this one — Ricko thinks the snot lime green alt (NOW rumored to be paired with lime green PANTS) would be ‘fun’ while I think it may be “ok” if worn ONLY ONE TIME and then permanently retired (unlike the Browns brown pants). This retina searing getup can only be a blight on the game, in my opinion.

And if you’re all hoping to see this, even once, whether it be with white or “blue” (not quite sure what that color is) pants … Be careful what you wish for. Can you imagine a whole UNIFORM in that color? That could set the earth a-spinning off its axis. Seriously.

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OK, that’s going to do it for this week’s “bumper sticker” piece. I’ll be back with Ricko soon to offer some more modest tweaks to some of the other NFL teams. The worst offenders have been fixed. But our work is not yet done. Let us know what you think.

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5 & 1a

Our man in the street, Jim Vilk brings you his “Top 5” Best and one WORST college football uni matchup from yesterday:

#5: How classic is Notre Dame vs. Michigan? And the game was pretty classic too.

#4: Iowa vs. Iowa State. A lot of yellow, but it works, so let it brighten your day.

#3: USC vs. TOSU. You probably won’t see this matchup in January, so enjoy it now.

#2: PSU vs. Syracuse. Love the contrast of blue and white vs. white and orange.

#1: UCLA vs. Tennessee. Very cool. Don’t change a thing, either one of you.

And the WORST uni matchup is….

Mizzou vs. Bowling Green. All black vs. brown pit stains? Bleah.

Thanks Jim. I’ll make sure to provide dissenters with your E-mail addy on request.

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Guess The Game From The Scoreboard: I’m pretty sure I never gave you this one as a game before. If I did, in advance, I apologize. It’s probably not all that difficult anyway, but you never know. Teams are obvious, stadium should be obvious … all that’s left is determining when the game was played and the final score. As always, use a link Retrosheet or Baseball Almanac to post your guess. And, please let me know if you want to try a “Guess The Game” for football, since the season has now begun (don’t know how that would play out, but we can try it if you’re all up for it). OK? OK. Ready? Guess The Game.

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Two words: “Foot Fault”

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Whew. We wind down this post with a nice, full-color edition of Benchies. Of course, on ‘opening weekend’ of the NFL, the boys are out on the gridiron. Ricko didn’t fix their unis, tho — they’re fine just as is. So, without further ado, here’s your 11 Panel Sunday Benchies.

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That’s a wrap. Are you ready for some football?

If you’re interested in sending me a MLB “uni tweak,” you know what to do. Probably gonna have a post on those I’ve received so far real soon. And, next weekend, all you graphic artists get ready, because we’re gonna have a contest … with an actual prize. So stay tuned. Have a fantastic Sunday everyone.

 
  
 
Comments (113)

    I think you’re trying a little too hard with these fixes.

    Bills – simply make the numbers on the white jersey navy with a double outline so they’re the same basic style as the home jersey. Done.

    Bengals – no white side panels, no white in the pants striping. That’s it. They’ve had tiger stripes of some sort on their pants since 1981, there’s no reason to eliminate that.

    I’m also going to say that the Cowboys need fixed as well. Classic that they may be, this business of having 2 different silvers and multiple shades of mismatched blue is just silly. Pick one silver. Pick one blue.

    Here’s my guess for the scoreboard:

    Rationale: (SPOILER ALERT)
    Baltimore at Boston (obvious)
    HAS TO BE this year, because that’s the new circular flag-based sleeve patch at work.
    It’s a Josh Beckett game.
    The box score matches perfectly. The yellow number in the bottom of the fourth at #20 (Youkilis) at bat also makes perfect sense. The inning is in progress and Youkilis just had his RBI base hit.

    You guys are crazy. Love the Bills uni’s, I have no problem with the Cardinals’ changes, an update was due and theirs was fine, basically the same w/ the Vikings. I have no problem with the Bengals’ jerseys either, sure they’re a bit too colorful and busy, but they’re different. I do agree w/ your opinions on the Falcons though, that coloring on the shoulder sleeves looked retarded, and you guys did some nice things w/ them.

    But what’s w/ your guys’ deal with having stripes on the side of the jerseys or the pants? Every time you guys are like, “no, sucks, remove it.” A lot of the times they add a different and cool kind of look and tons of teams do it. If you hate that, then man, you guys are going to hate many many uniforms out there.

    P.S. I’ll probably never remember to check this random site again, goodbye.

    Nice provocative column today, lads. Me like.
    Some random responses:
    The Denver Broncos uni is one of the top 5 worst travesties foisted on the sporting universe; bring back the orange crush, please.
    Horns on the Vike’s jerseys? No, thank you.
    Black pants almost never work. Not on Atlanta, not on Bengals, not on Mizzou.

    I agree on the college matchups. Two of my favorite unis are OSU and UCLA. Hoever, and I know it is discussed ad nauseum, I really dislike the faux sleeve and shoulder stripes that don’t make a complete 360. UCLA, USC, Iowa, OSU and dozens of others guilty of this (I know, the O-lineman want smaller sleeves, blah, blah, blah.) If only this could be corrected.

    And, speaking of matchups, did someone mention Rutgers/Howard?

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    Apart from the colored side gussets, I really like the current Bills unis. THey may look a little CFL-ish, but they have their own look in the NFL thanks to the shoulder yoke.

    In regard to the lime green uni-set for the Seahawks, I can see a good reason to break them out towards the end of the season.. When the weather gets blustery in Seattle, and you can’t see the blue, or the white because of fog or snow, you’ll be able to see the Neon Snot jerseys from about 100 yards..

    [quote comment=”347425″]In regard to the lime green uni-set for the Seahawks, I can see a good reason to break them out towards the end of the season.. When the weather gets blustery in Seattle, and you can’t see the blue, or the white because of fog or snow, you’ll be able to see the Neon Snot jerseys from about 100 yards..[/quote]

    That’s sorta where I was coming from, too. It can get pretty gloomy in Seattle, especially late in the season. In a dreary situation such as that, the bright color jersey (but NOT the pants) also would be, I dunno…fun. Is that bad?

    —Ricko

    Can one of the Pantone geniuses out there take a look at the MLS Seattle Sounders “Rave Green” jersey, and compare the color to what’s been floated for the Seahawks?

    I have a suspicion that they are pretty much the same, given the two teams play in the same stadium, and have some common owners.

    Great work, but you could have expanded by one. The Titans desperately need your help. Truncated helmet stripes, wacky number font, bizarre yolk and a mish-mash of logos.

    BTW, before the OMBS phrase came into being, I referred to it as the “Enron Field” effect. Random crap just because we can – “Retractable roof, check. Hill in Centerfield, check. Flagpole in play, check. Real train in ballpark, CHECK!!”

    “But what’s w/ your guys’ deal with having stripes on the side of the jerseys or the pants? Every time you guys are like, ‘no, sucks, remove it.'”

    That’s absolutely NOT true.

    “Every time”? False, totally false. I mean, think about it. We took them off only FIVE teams, largely because in their cases they are just too much. That leaves a helluva lot of teams we didn’t touch.

    I, for one, like the Rams unis, or the Broncos (they get a “pass”, anyway, because—good or bad—they were the originators).

    What we’re saying is that some of the new looks work, and some of them are a swing-and-a-miss. Largely because the designers don’t seem to undersand the overkill and clutter are not solid design concepts.

    —Ricko

    Not much love here for Gophers’ uni choice last night.

    Being “Golden Gophers” for the first game in new stadium okay with me, though, as long as they put that look on the shelf for the rest of the year.

    Bad part was they had Nike’s Florida Gator “duotone” on the jerseys. Was really irritating because the darker of the two golds was pretty much Tennessee orange.

    It looks like one of two fabrics that comprise the jersey is more susceptible to color change when wet, because on some guys it barely showed. It was a unusually warm September night (still 73 degrees when I moved to the bed around 11:15) and the bigger guys’ jerseys almost instantly became two-tone. It took longer on the slimmer players. And the kickers’ virtually never did change.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”347420″]Here’s my guess for the scoreboard:

    Rationale: (SPOILER ALERT)
    Baltimore at Boston (obvious)
    HAS TO BE this year, because that’s the new circular flag-based sleeve patch at work.
    It’s a Josh Beckett game.
    The box score matches perfectly. The yellow number in the bottom of the fourth at #20 (Youkilis) at bat also makes perfect sense. The inning is in progress and Youkilis just had his RBI base hit.[/quote]

    Mike– well played.

    Here’s where I’m at a disadvantage because I can’t immediately recognize season-specific uniform styles. Trying to solve this one, I had to narrow down the year by looking at the combinations of uniform numbers (#19 is a Red Sox pitcher, #20 is a Red Sox nonpitcher, #24 is an Orioles pitcher).

    Owing the the Orioles’ propensity to give #24 to a catcher (notably Rick Dempsey), there were only five such seasons; among those, none of the pre-2009 seasons featured a line score like that at Fenway.

    Greetings from the land of cheese link.

    Nice work, fellas. Since I’m in town to see the Bears and Packers, how about a tweak for these two teams?

    Bears:

    Move the TV numbers to the shoulders. That way, you can avoid the link. Yes, I’d rather see everyone wearing real sleeves with the TV numbers on them, but the reality is that real sleeves are a thing of the past for the vast majority of players.

    Packers:

    Ideally, they should go back to the link, but just getting rid of the link would be a huge improvement. They just clutter things up. Oh, and bring back the striped socks.

    [quote comment=”347436″]Greetings from the land of cheese link.

    Nice work, fellas. Since I’m in town to see the Bears and Packers, how about a tweak for these two teams?

    Bears:

    Move the TV numbers to the shoulders. That way, you can avoid the link. Yes, I’d rather see everyone wearing real sleeves with the TV numbers on them, but the reality is that real sleeves are a thing of the past for the vast majority of players.

    Packers:

    Ideally, they should go back to the link, but just getting rid of the link would be a huge improvement. They just clutter things up. Oh, and bring back the striped socks.[/quote]

    Packers sans collar stripes…
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    [quote comment=”347438″][quote comment=”347436″]Greetings from the land of cheese link.

    Nice work, fellas. Since I’m in town to see the Bears and Packers, how about a tweak for these two teams?

    Bears:

    Move the TV numbers to the shoulders. That way, you can avoid the link. Yes, I’d rather see everyone wearing real sleeves with the TV numbers on them, but the reality is that real sleeves are a thing of the past for the vast majority of players.

    Packers:

    Ideally, they should go back to the link, but just getting rid of the link would be a huge improvement. They just clutter things up. Oh, and bring back the striped socks.[/quote]

    Packers sans collar stripes…
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    Ricko,

    Your simple, yet effective “tweaking” of the Packer’s uni by removing the collar stripe is outstanding…

    Clean look…

    Stan

    …and yes, this game would even offend Stevie Wonder…

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    OUCH!!!

    It’s a shame that I’m a taxpayer in Missouri…so I guess I’m to blame…(although not an alum!!!)

    Great work

    “foot fault”? is there a tennis joke in there that i don’t get?

    either way, that woman has massive thighs.

    [quote comment=”347441″]”foot fault”? is there a tennis joke in there that i don’t get?

    either way, that woman has massive thighs.[/quote]
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    [quote comment=”347439″][quote comment=”347438″][quote comment=”347436″]Greetings from the land of cheese link.

    Nice work, fellas. Since I’m in town to see the Bears and Packers, how about a tweak for these two teams?

    Bears:

    Move the TV numbers to the shoulders. That way, you can avoid the link. Yes, I’d rather see everyone wearing real sleeves with the TV numbers on them, but the reality is that real sleeves are a thing of the past for the vast majority of players.

    Packers:

    Ideally, they should go back to the link, but just getting rid of the link would be a huge improvement. They just clutter things up. Oh, and bring back the striped socks.[/quote]

    Packers sans collar stripes…
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    Ricko,

    Your simple, yet effective “tweaking” of the Packer’s uni by removing the collar stripe is outstanding…

    Clean look…

    Stan[/quote]
    Agreed. Big improvement.

    From a Bengal Fans’ perspective, I disgree with your tweaks to the Bengals’ uni. Yes the curent togs are ostentatious, but your big change, the white pants with a classical stripe pattern down the center? That’s what the Cleveland Browns have (unless they wear brown pants), and we Bengals fans hate Cleveland.

    Yes, I know the Bengals original unis were copied from the Browns, but that’s a bad thing.

    The best tweak to the Bengals unis would be to make sure they are all consistent. Currently The TV numbers show up at different locations depending on which player it is, and the jersey stripes sometimes overlap the color panels.

    Respect the effort, but try harder – Classic pants do not fix everything, and are completely incongruous with the stripes in the helmet and jersey.

    There is one simple, basic truth regarding each of the teams with the OMBS syndrome in today’s column – THEIR ORIGINAL UNIFORMS LOOKED INFINITLEY BETTER THAN THE TRASHY CRAP THEY WEAR TODAY !!! Much like the rest of our society, the “excess is best” disease has infected NFL unforms (and the NBA, MLB, NHL, NCAA, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseum). To me, the most horrific offenders will always be the Cincinnati Bengals. Those tiger striped helmets looked hideous in 1981, and they still look hideous today, only now they’ve let those stupid stripes run wild over everything else. The original Bengals uniform was a classic that should see the light of day again.

    Great post.

    As a CFL fan, I knew exactly what you meant by “OMBS” when it came up last week.

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    My Stampeders have it all – random patches, random piping, a goofy font, a different coloured shoulder yoke, a wordmark, a league patch, ad patches, and a goofy black alternate jersey.

    As if Reebok decided to put every single design element they had onto a single jersey.

    (BTW Henry Burris turned into a pretty good CFL quarterback after sucking quite badly in the NFL)

    [quote comment=”347440″]…and yes, this game would even offend Stevie Wonder…

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    OUCH!!!

    It’s a shame that I’m a taxpayer in Missouri…so I guess I’m to blame…(although not an alum!!!)

    Great work[/quote]
    As a Mizzou alum (although not currently a taxpayer in Missouri), I much prefer link look for the Tigers — home OR link!

    Just because you don’t like some of the new uniform elements, it doesn’t mean all the teams need to be minimalist either. One extreme is just as bad as the other, IMO.

    While I do agree that the Falcons throwbacks (minus the pointless gold helmet stripes anyway) look better than their current uniform, I don’t want to see the entire NFL looking like Penn State color variants or using the same template like the WFL did.

    *yawns*

    just checking in…sleeping till noon is what i get when i work on a column till 3AM…

    just a couple random notes…you don’t have to agree with our “changes” … not everyone hates the OMBS look — that’s fine … eveyone is entitled to their opinion

    we only looked at the, in our opinion, “five worst offenders” — there are other very minor fixes we will be offering up, so if you have a problem with another team, have patients

    jth–pack & bears? check — we have a “different fix” in mind for them (as well as a few other teams) that ricko and i (more so rick) will be offering up real soon; throw in the browns, niners, stillers and a couple others in this group

    finally, for anyone who isn’t sure about serena, (read what JTH posted)…last night, here’s basically what she said:

    [quote]here’s the full quote: “i swear to god, i’m gonna take this f*cking ball and i’m gonna shove it down your mother f*cking throat…OK?…i swear to god…you are dead…you are motherf*cking dead!…you are a (too many beeps to tell)…” (probably something with the “c” word or another oedipal reference)[/quote]

    nice…should the linejudge have called a footfault at 15-30? generally this situation in tennis is akin to the “neighborhood play” in baseball — yeah, guy didn’t actually touch second in a double play attempt, but he was in the neighborhood…did serena foot fault? yeah, probably, but it wasn’t so egregious on what was almost match point so as to be called

    however, her actions following an actual enforcement of the rules were (especially after she broke a racket after losing the first set) inexcusable and she deserved to lose what was then match point since she’d already been assessed a penalty for bad sportsmanship previously

    now…are you ready for some football

    [quote comment=”347450″]I like how you made the Colts shoulder stripes go all the way around on that Bills photo. Very sneaky.[/quote]

    oops … that may have been something we did in preparation for the next post…

    [quote comment=”347446″]Great post.

    As a CFL fan, I knew exactly what you meant by “OMBS” when it came up last week.

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    My Stampeders have it all – random patches, random piping, a goofy font, a different coloured shoulder yoke, a wordmark, a league patch, ad patches, and a goofy black alternate jersey.

    As if Reebok decided to put every single design element they had onto a single jersey.

    (BTW Henry Burris turned into a pretty good CFL quarterback after sucking quite badly in the NFL)[/quote]

    It’s very hard to conceive how a team that has such a great colour combo – red, black and white, could have such an ugly uniform. 100% agree with your comments. I was also hoping Calgary would use their early 70″s uniform – which was quite sharp – as their throwback.

    [quote comment=”347426″][quote comment=”347425″]In regard to the lime green uni-set for the Seahawks, I can see a good reason to break them out towards the end of the season.. When the weather gets blustery in Seattle, and you can’t see the blue, or the white because of fog or snow, you’ll be able to see the Neon Snot jerseys from about 100 yards..[/quote]

    That’s sorta where I was coming from, too. It can get pretty gloomy in Seattle, especially late in the season. In a dreary situation such as that, the bright color jersey (but NOT the pants) also would be, I dunno…fun. Is that bad?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Yep, and if we can bright baby blue uniforms, and vibrant orange, why not neon green – especially if the look is a clean one, it won’t be the end of the world.

    I love the Jets’ uniforms, but I’d like to see someone try to reverse the shoulder inserts on both the green and white jerseys. (I don’t have the Photoshop skills to do it.) Since the 1998 redesign, I’ve thought the sleeves looked too high-up on the shoulders compared to the original 1963-77 jersey. Around 2001 or so they appeared to move up even further. I think reversing the insert to green-white-green on the green jersey and white-green-white on the white jersey would be an easy way to improve the look.

    The Giants should move the TV numbers from the shoulder to the sleeve, at least on the blue jersey since it has no sleeve stripes. I understand that NFL jerseys don’t really have sleeves anymore, but having the TV numbers there at least makes it look like they do.

    The Giants should also ditch the metallic paint on the helmets, which is incongruous with the retro design.

    For the record… no, you don’t want the Seahawks to wear green pants. Green pants are bad.

    (using EA’s NCAA 10 TeamBuilder application)

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    [quote comment=”347452″][quote comment=”347446″]Great post.

    As a CFL fan, I knew exactly what you meant by “OMBS” when it came up last week.

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    My Stampeders have it all – random patches, random piping, a goofy font, a different coloured shoulder yoke, a wordmark, a league patch, ad patches, and a goofy black alternate jersey.

    As if Reebok decided to put every single design element they had onto a single jersey.

    (BTW Henry Burris turned into a pretty good CFL quarterback after sucking quite badly in the NFL)[/quote]

    It’s very hard to conceive how a team that has such a great colour combo – red, black and white,

    could have such an ugly uniform. 100% agree with your comments.

    I was also hoping Calgary would use their early 70″s uniform – which was quite sharp – as their throwback.[/quote]

    [quote comment=\”347452\”][quote comment=\”347446\”]Great post.

    As a CFL fan, I knew exactly what you meant by \”OMBS\” when it came up last week.

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    My Stampeders have it all – random patches, random piping, a goofy font, a different coloured shoulder yoke, a wordmark, a league patch, ad patches, and a goofy black alternate jersey.

    As if Reebok decided to put every single design element they had onto a single jersey.

    (BTW Henry Burris turned into a pretty good CFL quarterback after sucking quite badly in the NFL)[/quote]

    It\’s very hard to conceive how a team that has such a great colour combo – red, black and white,

    could have such an ugly uniform. 100% agree with your comments.

    I was also hoping Calgary would use their early 70\”s uniform – which was quite sharp – as their throwback.[/quote]

    I’ve thought Calgary had the worst uniforms in the league since the Reebok redesign a few years back.

    Montreal is guilty of “OMBS” as well. It might even be worse because of the city name on the white jerseys and the goofy pants stripe, but somehow for me it works on them.

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    The Seahawks “lime” is no where near as “electric” as you have made it out to be in your… “concepts”. It’s way more muted, and won’t be an eyesore at all. Wouldn’t recommend they pair it with matching pants, but on it’s own it will look pretty nice IMO.

    Also, couldn’t disagree more with your “tweaks” – sure, all of those teams need some little things done to improve them, but on the other hand, we can’t have all of the teams looking like they were designed in 1965, which is what I get the feeling UW would like to see (which is fine, since it’s all just opinion). Need some diversity… need some more risk taking in the NFL.

    [quote comment=”347457″]For the record… no, you don’t want the Seahawks to wear green pants. Green pants are bad.

    (using EA’s NCAA 10 TeamBuilder application)

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    mes yeux!

    combining those two is even worse than individually

    [quote comment=”347459″]The Seahawks “lime” is no where near as “electric” as you have made it out to be in your… “concepts”. It’s way more muted, and won’t be an eyesore at all. Wouldn’t recommend they pair it with matching pants, but on it’s own it will look pretty nice IMO.

    Also, couldn’t disagree more with your “tweaks” – sure, all of those teams need some little things done to improve them, but on the other hand, we can’t have all of the teams looking like they were designed in 1965, which is what I get the feeling UW would like to see (which is fine, since it’s all just opinion). Need some diversity… need some more risk taking in the NFL.[/quote]

    Nice stuff guys(Phil & Ricko), that create interesting uniform speculation. However, I might have to agree with Fuzzy here and that some of the modern touches work quite nicely, with the respective teams old school look/colors.

    BTW, Fuzzy check out my Seahawks green jersey concepts. This is what I’m feelin’ could be quite nice. I mean, why not work in two tone greens? Old school evergreen meets new school lime.

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    Read that about Serena. Lupica as usual has it dead-on.

    And I’d like to know why, when the schedule said Cowboys @ Bucs..I TURNED ON FOX AND GOT THE VIKES AND BROWNS.

    Friggin’ frig frig frig.

    Glad to see no one’s complained about the NCAA uni-matchups, but I’ll add a disclaimer anyway. Aside from Penn State and Michigan, I’m not a real Big Ten fan. It’s just coincidence that so many teams from there were in some visually appealing matchups.

    I considered adding BYU/Tulane to the Top 5 list: link

    In future weeks there will be more diversity among conferences, I’m sure.

    About today’s uni tweaks, great job, fellas! One disagreement – I like the Bills’ road unis. Lose the pit thingy and you have a winner. That comment and this one will prove I’m not a minimalist: I welcome a lime green Seahawks uni with the dreary blue helmet, pants and numbers. It’s such a great contrast. Now that being said, the Cardinals’ very simple St. Louis-era unis were classic and should never have been touched.

    While I like the William Andrews-era Falcons, I really like your fixes to the current Atlanta mess. I could live with them, for sure.

    [quote comment=”347452″][quote comment=”347446″]Great post.

    As a CFL fan, I knew exactly what you meant by “OMBS” when it came up last week.

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    My Stampeders have it all – random patches, random piping, a goofy font, a different coloured shoulder yoke, a wordmark, a league patch, ad patches, and a goofy black alternate jersey.

    As if Reebok decided to put every single design element they had onto a single jersey.

    (BTW Henry Burris turned into a pretty good CFL quarterback after sucking quite badly in the NFL)[/quote]

    It’s very hard to conceive how a team that has such a great colour combo – red, black and white,

    could have such an ugly uniform. 100% agree with your comments.

    I was also hoping Calgary would use their early 70″s uniform – which was quite sharp – as their throwback.[/quote]

    Agreed.

    A couple of great CFL uni matchups took place Friday night. We talked already about the Ti-Cats/Argos game, but we didn’t have a chance to admire the retro looks for Calgary and Edmonton.

    The Stamps looked soooo much better in their retros than in their all blacks with red shoulders from the previous week. As far as the Eskimos, in my opinion they’re the one exception in the CFL right now. They looked great on retro night, yes, but I think their current unis are actually one of the best looks they’ve ever had. Even when they go with green jerseys and pants, at least they no longer look like Packers clones. I even like their new number font. See? Not everything new is bad.

    Visually I’d rather watch the Chiefs and Ravens, but I can only hear Rich Gannon say “athaletic” so many times…

    Vikes and Browns are on the other station. The Vikes, like the Giants, need to ditch the metallic helmet paint.

    Ravens going white tops over black bottoms. Hate it. the pants need a stripe down the side like their white pants have

    Almost forgot the Bengals. Actually, if you lose the pit/side panel on the jersey, I think you could keep the tiger stripes on the pants. I like the orange jersey idea, even with black pants. That would make sure they don’t look too close to the Browns. Gotta agree the new helmet is cool, if the rest of the uniform doesn’t detract from it. I like a good classic look, but I always found the original Bengals look to be boring.

    Oh, and one more thing on the Bills. I’m with Ricko – no red jerseys.

    Oh god, I’m watching the Brownies….those plain brown socks—wtever happened to the classic white/orange stripes????

    And there’s nothing wrong with the few teams that use the truncated striping. I think the Vikings uni uses it the best. Nice touch. Can’t have all teams with the “standard” stripes.

    [quote comment=”347469″]Ravens going white tops over black bottoms. Hate it. the pants need a stripe down the side like their white pants have[/quote]

    heh…told you this is just part one…[quote comment=”347473″]And there’s nothing wrong with the few teams that use the truncated striping. I think the Vikings uni uses it the best. Nice touch. Can’t have all teams with the “standard” stripes.[/quote]

    yes…in my world you can

    and the broncos can keep their nike pants…they started this whole thing, but it ends with them ;)

    [quote comment=”347475″]and the broncos can keep their link…they started this whole thing, but it ends with them ;)[/quote]

    If they didn’t have the goofy number font, I might agree, but you and Ricko are too kind to them.

    Goodell slaps Jerry Jones on the wrist for leaking out the ugly truth: link
    NFL’s one step closer to becoming like MLB. Not good.

    lots of white on home teams today…gotta say, i like it

    interesting the browns, who used to be one of those white at home teams, going with brown tops on opening weekend

    /mangenius at work

    Watching the Lion/Saints, and seeing Detroits uniforms in action for the first time, I think it’s a major upgrade. I can’t even see the lion details on the helmet with the lights of the Superdome bouncing off the helmlts, so that’s a wash. The number do have that funky corner, but again, only noticeable if you look closely. My only problem with them is the wide grey shoulder ‘stripe’. When it gets that big, it’s no longer a stripe, but a colored sleeve. Needs to bee thinned out a bit.

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    [quote comment=”347478″]lots of white on home teams today…gotta say, i like it

    interesting the browns, who used to be one of those white at home teams, going with brown tops on opening weekend

    /mangenius at work[/quote]

    Yeah, and the Bengals are wearing all whites at home – their only good look with the current unis.

    Got an idea. Remember last weekend how we showed D-II school Minnesota-Duluth? They had a classic home look with a OMBS road uni. How about a compromise? Every team go with a classic look and a new look. Doesn’t matter if it’s home or road, just have one of each. Closest we’ll probably get to pleasing everyone, without resorting to alternates.

    I just realized – there are inconsistencies in the raven purples. helmet stipe and bird vs number color. Don’t think it’s just because of the different material

    [quote comment=”347481″]I just realized – there are inconsistencies in the raven purples. helmet stipe and bird vs number color. Don’t think it’s just because of the different material[/quote]

    Always thought the Baltimore Ravens had a very blah helmet and uniform design, should have more purple and less black.
    Anyone catch the Jags-Colts game, those hideous Jacksonville uniforms and helmet should be tossed. Don’t know if anyone remembers, but the prototype Jags jersey had a leaping Jaguar across the shoulder area, it actually looked good.

    Hey, all you DirecTV people know you had a free preview of Sunday Ticket today? I didn’t think I’d get it since I have an “old” receiver and local channels only, but I got it. Good thing the 1pm games weren’t that stellar, since I just realized it.

    Rams/Seahawks looks kinda nice. Lot of lime green in the stands…sign of good things to come! There’s another blindingly bright thing there…can’t figure out what…oh, it’s the sun. In Seattle. Who knew?

    Niners look good. I’ll even forgive them for leaving the black outline around the logo. Cards shoulda read today’s piece.

    Red Zone channel looks obviously HD, even on my SDTV.

    Back to Seattle – the endzones aren’t painted blue anymore. Maybe a nod to the soccer team that shares the field, but just the letters are in the endzone.

    [quote comment=”347484″][quote comment=”347483″]link

    sigh[/quote]

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    Interesting. I wonder why..up til this morning..all week..Yahoo TV showed Dallas @ TB on Fox. At 945am PT, I have my old retro Cowboys T on..check the sked, and I get Brett Favre.

    Well, they won today, so HOW BOUT DEM COWBOYS.
    The Niners actually scored an offensive TD, too.

    I agree with the first comment, there was a bit too much thought put into the changes when really a couple touches here and there would have worked fine.

    Bengals, KEEP THE BENGAL PANT STRIPE! It’s been around for nearly 30 YEARS! And really traditional stripes dont really flow when the rest of the uni is relatively untouched. The side panels can go easily be done away and that is all you need.

    Cardinals- No need for striped socks here. Again, it doesnt flow with rest of the design. Also, I think the environment on UoP stadium kinda works against using older-style unis

    [quote comment=”347476″][quote comment=”347475″]and the broncos can keep their link…they started this whole thing, but it ends with them ;)[/quote]

    If they didn’t have the goofy number font, I might agree, but you and Ricko are too kind to them.[/quote]

    Huh? In an earlier post I said I liked the Rams and Broncos (unlike Phil, lol). The Bench Coach and I didn’t—and don’t—necessarily agree on eveything, just that both of our ideas are smashed together in today’s post.

    —Ricko

    first off love the site, i dont comment much but read regularly, so thanks for all the good stuff

    that said i think the changes are a little too tradtional for these teams, if all the teams were so basic itd be pretty bland, i mean the bengals jerseys are great because well they are the bengals, they screw everything up so it makes sense theyre jerseys reflect that, the falcons are in hotlanta, its the home of lil jon so why not have a uniform that looks like he designed it (though i love the throwback), the cards played like an arena team for years until last year so why not dress like one, again a reflection of the team, i do agree that the bills should go throwback fulltime and love the idea of a red alt because the current uni is just terrible all the way around

    [quote comment=”347494″][quote comment=”347476″][quote comment=”347475″]and the broncos can keep their link…they started this whole thing, but it ends with them ;)[/quote]

    If they didn’t have the goofy number font, I might agree, but you and Ricko are too kind to them.[/quote]

    Huh? In an earlier post I said I liked the Rams and Broncos (unlike Phil, lol). The Bench Coach and I didn’t—and don’t—necessarily agree on eveything, just that both of our ideas are smashed together in today’s post.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    where did i say i din’t like the broncos? i blame them for all that followed, but they get points for being the originals…the first…everyone else who followed…they can just stop

    that’s the whole point — we don’t want everyone to look alike, but we also don’t like copy cats or un-original design thoughts…

    and ricko actually likes side panels on some teams (like the pats) — i don’t but that doesn’t mean the pats have to look like every other team…just don’t resort to “that look”

    YMMV

    No throwbackin’ in the late game (CFL). link
    These unis are nice, though. With the Bombers, my only suggestion is fix the logo. I like the football with the W, but not the way they overlap. Lose the black on the Riders’ shoulder stripes and that’s it.

    Hmmm, Costas was making Goodell squirm talking about the salary cap and the lockout and my satellite temporarily blacked out. Coincidence? More like conspiracy, eh?

    Unsure if Paul is a “King of the Hill” fan but the 8:30 episode tonight has Bobby joining the junior college meat-grading team due to his knowledge of meat cuts.

    [quote comment=”347492″]I agree with the first comment, there was a bit too much thought put into the changes when really a couple touches here and there would have worked fine.

    Bengals, KEEP THE BENGAL PANT STRIPE! It’s been around for nearly 30 YEARS! And really traditional stripes dont really flow when the rest of the uni is relatively untouched. The side panels can go easily be done away and that is all you need.

    Cardinals- No need for striped socks here. Again, it doesnt flow with rest of the design. Also, I think the environment on UoP stadium kinda works against using older-style unis[/quote]

    Phil and I talked at great length about how sometimes unis have a “signature design element” (NOT meaning a logo, but it could be used as one, as I did on my Bills’ shoulders/sleeves…or the Chargers do with the lightning bolt), and how extraneous crap can distract from it.

    The Bengals’ tiger-stripe Zubaz pattern is a case in point. All the extra panels and stuff take the eye away from the signature element. That’s where we started: first of all, elimnating items that were just clutter.

    So, yeah, maybe Phil (who did the Bengals mockups) could have left the 80s’ syle pattern on the pants, where it has been since they went to the current helmet. Our starting point was to first get rid of the bric-a-brac that makes a banana republic general’s uniform look generic. That sometimes led us in other directions that were a little beyond just an “edit”, so to speak (though I DO kinda like the Bengals in orange as their primary jersey; no one in NFL uses it as anything other than an alt anymore).

    (Non-related subject: Think Adrian Peterson has any upper body strength going for him?)

    Also (as Sunday night game is about to begin), Packers DO need socks stripes.

    —Ricko

    NOW the season has started, NBC just rolled the Faith Hill intro.

    I would swear they spelled his name Chris (not Cris) Collinsworth. Did I imagine that?

    Good stuff guys. Of course how can I read and not have some sort of opinion to add….that’s what it’s for, right?

    I’m not in favor of repeating a helmet logo on the side of the sholder. Having the same thing splashed four times above the chest is too much. Plus, they generally look too small on the sleeve anyway. Makes the logo look a little wimpy, especially next to the rebok jersey litter.

    On another note, I’d think I would have noticed this before but the Cardinals first and third base coaches wore the road helmets today. Must be a Sunday thing when the players wear their blue Sunday hat, but this is the first time I noticed it. Looked odd when McKay was talking to a runner on first wearing different helmets.

    Keep it up fellas. Good stuff.

    [quote comment=”347497″]No throwbackin’ in the late game (CFL). link
    These unis are nice, though. With the Bombers, my only suggestion is fix the logo. I like the football with the W, but not the way they overlap. Lose the black on the Riders’ shoulder stripes and that’s it.[/quote]

    The Bombers, looking like a pop warner team, also play like one too. The logo suits the team.

    [quote comment=”347501″]NOW the season has started, NBC just rolled the Faith Hill intro.

    I would swear they spelled his name Chris (not Cris) Collinsworth. Did I imagine that?[/quote]

    You’re seeing tings.

    [quote comment=”347504″][quote comment=”347497″]No throwbackin’ in the late game (CFL). link
    These unis are nice, though. With the Bombers, my only suggestion is fix the logo. I like the football with the W, but not the way they overlap. Lose the black on the Riders’ shoulder stripes and that’s it.[/quote]

    The Bombers, looking like a pop warner team, also play like one too. The logo suits the team.[/quote]

    I have a soft spot for the Dieter Brock era unis. Always will. Loved the unis, loved those teams’ oaf-fenses: Brock, Poplawksi, Murphy, House, Reaves, Miller, Goodlow…

    So I was looking for the pictures of the scoreboard oprators that were on Uniwatch a while ago in the life archives, and I came across link

    Joe McCarthy congratulating Joe DiMaggio on his 44th game in a row with a hit (tied the previous record set in 1898), but the interesting thing is the sleeves. Long sleeves. No buttons like some old uniforms, but straight up long sleeves. Perhaps a manager only thing, but really interesting. Never seen that look before.

    [quote comment=”347506″][quote comment=”347504″][quote comment=”347497″]No throwbackin’ in the late game (CFL). link
    These unis are nice, though. With the Bombers, my only suggestion is fix the logo. I like the football with the W, but not the way they overlap. Lose the black on the Riders’ shoulder stripes and that’s it.[/quote]

    The Bombers, looking like a pop warner team, also play like one too. The logo suits the team.[/quote]

    I have a soft spot for the Dieter Brock era unis. Always will. Loved the unis, loved those teams’ oaf-fenses: Brock, Poplawksi, Murphy, House, Reaves, Miller, Goodlow…[/quote]

    I liked the ’84 Bombers…until they beat my Ti-Cats in the Grey Cup. Since then they’re my least favorite team. I think Bob Cameron punted then, and he just retired a few years ago at 46. If I heard correctly, he never had a contract; every year he made a handshake deal with the team.

    Just a few of the things I saw today that kept the NFL Uniform Police busy.

    Brady Quinn and many of black-shoed Browns wearing shoes that were WAY more than 51% white (at first glance I thought Quinn was going “Joe Namath” on us).

    Couple of Redskins wearing mostly yellow Nikes with burgundy accents. Theoretically, Fred Smoot gets busted twice, once for the yellow shoes, once for spatting them with black tape (I think NFL rules stipulate that tape on shoes must be same color as the shoes).

    Lotta Packers with white socks too low, and at least one with ’em too high.

    Couple Bears with socks stripes way up by knees.

    Jay Culter, early on, evidently thinking the Bears are the ones wearing forest green. No, wait, I guess that’s not one for the Uni Cops.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”347499″]Unsure if Paul is a “King of the Hill” fan but the 8:30 episode tonight has Bobby joining the junior college meat-grading team due to his knowledge of meat cuts.[/quote]

    Believe me, I’m aware of that programming note! I’m at Kirsten’s house, and she doesn’t have a teevee, but you can bet I set my VCR (yes, I still use one of those) to tape the meat-centric episode.

    Footage of Lombardi’s first game with Packers.
    I remember watching that game. New unis and a new QB: Lamar McHan.

    (ol’ Bart didn’t get the job ’til later)

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”347512″]Footage of Lombardi’s first game with Packers.
    I remember watching that game. New unis and a new QB: Lamar McHan.

    (ol’ Bart didn’t get the job ’til later)

    —Ricko[/quote]
    They had TVs back then?

    \I kid, I kid…

    [quote comment=”347513″]What’s with Favre’s baggy jersey today? Did he sport the same fit during the preseason? link

    He’s always worn them like that. Fitted but not tight, full sleeves.

    Other then kickers, link

    Anyone want to take a stab at who does the play-by-play of that Miller Lite Tony Dorsett commercial?

    [quote comment=”347516″][quote comment=”347513″]What’s with Favre’s baggy jersey today? Did he sport the same fit during the preseason? link

    He’s always worn them like that. Fitted but not tight, full sleeves.

    Other then kickers, link[/quote]

    Big Ben link as well as Jeff Reed of the Stillers wear them the same way.

    [quote comment=”347518″][quote comment=”347516″][quote comment=”347513″]What’s with Favre’s baggy jersey today? Did he sport the same fit during the preseason? link

    He’s always worn them like that. Fitted but not tight, full sleeves.

    Other then kickers, link[/quote]

    Big Ben link as well as Jeff Reed of the Stillers wear them the same way.[/quote]

    Throwing with shoulder pads is odd enough. I can’t imagine also doing it feeling like I was stuffed into a sausage casing. Not finding fault with anyone, just saying I get why QB’s are the last bastion of honest-to-god, um, jerseyhood.

    —Rick

    [quote comment=”347515″][quote comment=”347512″]Footage of Lombardi’s first game with Packers.
    I remember watching that game. New unis and a new QB: Lamar McHan.

    (ol’ Bart didn’t get the job ’til later)

    —Ricko[/quote]
    They had TVs back then?

    \I kid, I kid…[/quote]

    Hey, I even had my OWN television in my bedroom, with rabbit ears and everything. 10-inch screen, but the whole thing was only slightly smaller than a steamer trunk. On that ol’ black and white I did my uni watching (lower case).

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”347454″]I love the Jets’ uniforms, but I’d like to see someone try to reverse the shoulder inserts on both the green and white jerseys. (I don’t have the Photoshop skills to do it.) Since the 1998 redesign, I’ve thought the sleeves looked too high-up on the shoulders compared to the original 1963-77 jersey. Around 2001 or so they appeared to move up even further. I think reversing the insert to green-white-green on the green jersey and white-green-white on the white jersey would be an easy way to improve the look.[/quote]

    This has bugged me, too. I think your solution makes sense.
    Old (good) = link
    New (ugly) = link

    Your suggestions are pretty much spot on, esp. royal for the Bills. The original Falcons look should never have gone away (I like the gold stripe.) But the Bengals should keep the tiger stripes on the pants. The original redesign was an inspired choice: link

    [quote comment=”347519″][quote comment=”347518″][quote comment=”347516″][quote comment=”347513″]What’s with Favre’s baggy jersey today? Did he sport the same fit during the preseason? link

    He’s always worn them like that. Fitted but not tight, full sleeves.

    Other then kickers, link[/quote]

    Big Ben link as well as Jeff Reed of the Stillers wear them the same way.[/quote]

    Throwing with shoulder pads is odd enough. I can’t imagine also doing it feeling like I was stuffed into a sausage casing. Not finding fault with anyone, just saying I get why QB’s are the last bastion of honest-to-god, um, jerseyhood.

    —Rick[/quote]
    Last night, I was trying to figure out what was going on with Matt Barkley’s jersey. Looked kinda like he had it all stuck to his pads in the front and back, but with poofy sleeves. Weird.

    link

    link

    [quote comment=”347523″][quote comment=”347519″][quote comment=”347518″][quote comment=”347516″][quote comment=”347513″]What’s with Favre’s baggy jersey today? Did he sport the same fit during the preseason? link

    He’s always worn them like that. Fitted but not tight, full sleeves.

    Other then kickers, link[/quote]

    Big Ben link as well as Jeff Reed of the Stillers wear them the same way.[/quote]

    Throwing with shoulder pads is odd enough. I can’t imagine also doing it feeling like I was stuffed into a sausage casing. Not finding fault with anyone, just saying I get why QB’s are the last bastion of honest-to-god, um, jerseyhood.

    —Rick[/quote]
    Last night, I was trying to figure out what was going on with Matt Barkley’s jersey. Looked kinda like he had it all stuck to his pads in the front and back, but with poofy sleeves. Weird.

    link

    link

    Like a lineman. Spray-on fixative on pads, the pull on jersey and, literally, stick it to the pads.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”347522″]Your suggestions are pretty much spot on, esp. royal for the Bills. The original Falcons look should never have gone away (I like the gold stripe.) But the Bengals should keep the tiger stripes on the pants. The original redesign was an inspired choice: link

    thanks…since i did the bengals, i’ll explain a bit further…i DO think they look better with real stripes, and i do think the tiger stripes on the pants is a bit much…but i can certainly see how if you removed all the extraneous shit i spose you could keep the pants with tiger stripes…since, admittedly, it’s certainly a signature element and there are worse…how about we agree on the tiger stripes for the pants but limit them to the three jerseys (making the orange the main jersey, with black alt) but only white pants? would that be a good compromise?

    what’s up with Lovie Smith’s cap tonight? has a script B on it. looks more like the Budweiser B than anything I’ve ever seen the Bears wear.

    [quote comment=”347525″][quote comment=”347522″]Your suggestions are pretty much spot on, esp. royal for the Bills. The original Falcons look should never have gone away (I like the gold stripe.) But the Bengals should keep the tiger stripes on the pants. The original redesign was an inspired choice: link

    thanks…since i did the bengals, i’ll explain a bit further…i DO think they look better with real stripes, and i do think the tiger stripes on the pants is a bit much…but i can certainly see how if you removed all the extraneous shit i spose you could keep the pants with tiger stripes…since, admittedly, it’s certainly a signature element and there are worse…how about we agree on the tiger stripes for the pants but limit them to the three jerseys (making the orange the main jersey, with black alt) but only white pants? would that be a good compromise?[/quote]

    I’d go further and banish alt jerseys altogether. Can’t think of any that work.

    (That said, I do like the Bucs when they break out the white pants now and then.)

    For the Bengals, an orange primary would be too much orange. Black jersey. No orange except at the souvenir store.

    [quote comment=”347522″][quote comment=”347454″]I love the Jets’ uniforms, but I’d like to see someone try to reverse the shoulder inserts on both the green and white jerseys. (I don’t have the Photoshop skills to do it.) Since the 1998 redesign, I’ve thought the sleeves looked too high-up on the shoulders compared to the original 1963-77 jersey. Around 2001 or so they appeared to move up even further. I think reversing the insert to green-white-green on the green jersey and white-green-white on the white jersey would be an easy way to improve the look.[/quote]

    This has bugged me, too. I think your solution makes sense.
    Old (good) = link
    New (ugly) = link

    Your suggestions are pretty much spot on, esp. royal for the Bills. The original Falcons look should never have gone away (I like the gold stripe.) But the Bengals should keep the tiger stripes on the pants. The original redesign was an inspired choice: link

    Even if Jets just changed the spacing…
    link

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”347524″][quote comment=”347523″][quote comment=”347519″][quote comment=”347518″][quote comment=”347516″][quote comment=”347513″]What’s with Favre’s baggy jersey today? Did he sport the same fit during the preseason? link

    He’s always worn them like that. Fitted but not tight, full sleeves.

    Other then kickers, link[/quote]

    Big Ben link as well as Jeff Reed of the Stillers wear them the same way.[/quote]

    Throwing with shoulder pads is odd enough. I can’t imagine also doing it feeling like I was stuffed into a sausage casing. Not finding fault with anyone, just saying I get why QB’s are the last bastion of honest-to-god, um, jerseyhood.

    —Rick[/quote]
    Last night, I was trying to figure out what was going on with Matt Barkley’s jersey. Looked kinda like he had it all stuck to his pads in the front and back, but with poofy sleeves. Weird.

    link

    link

    Like a lineman. Spray-on fixative on pads, the pull on jersey and, literally, stick it to the pads.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Guess I’m just not used to seeing that look with full un-stuck sleeves.

    [quote comment=”347528″][quote comment=”347522″][quote comment=”347454″]I love the Jets’ uniforms, but I’d like to see someone try to reverse the shoulder inserts on both the green and white jerseys. (I don’t have the Photoshop skills to do it.) Since the 1998 redesign, I’ve thought the sleeves looked too high-up on the shoulders compared to the original 1963-77 jersey. Around 2001 or so they appeared to move up even further. I think reversing the insert to green-white-green on the green jersey and white-green-white on the white jersey would be an easy way to improve the look.[/quote]

    This has bugged me, too. I think your solution makes sense.
    Old (good) = link
    New (ugly) = link

    Your suggestions are pretty much spot on, esp. royal for the Bills. The original Falcons look should never have gone away (I like the gold stripe.) But the Bengals should keep the tiger stripes on the pants. The original redesign was an inspired choice: link

    Even if Jets just changed the spacing…
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Bootiful.

    [quote comment=”347526″]what’s up with Lovie Smith’s cap tonight? has a script B on it. looks more like the Budweiser B than anything I’ve ever seen the Bears wear.[/quote]

    That hat’s been around since George Halas. Just don’t see often these days (you WILL see it on Jack Warden playing Halas in BRIAN’S SONG, though).

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”347526″]what’s up with Lovie Smith’s cap tonight? has a script B on it. looks more like the Budweiser B than anything I’ve ever seen the Bears wear.[/quote]

    Ya gotta love the “B.” link

    [quote comment=”347532″][quote comment=”347526″]what’s up with Lovie Smith’s cap tonight? has a script B on it. looks more like the Budweiser B than anything I’ve ever seen the Bears wear.[/quote]

    Ya gotta love the “B.” link

    Think maybe it stands for “Black Hole”, which is where anyone who plays QB for the Bears seems to go?

    [quote comment=”347478″]lots of white on home teams today…gotta say, i like it

    interesting the browns, who used to be one of those white at home teams, going with brown tops on opening weekend

    /mangenius at work[/quote]
    I am a long time Browns fanatic, who loves their classic look, if the man genius ever pulls a brown on brown look, Im gonna have a Fred Sanford, fake heart attack! Do you hear that Elizabeth?

    [quote comment=”347479″]Watching the Lion/Saints, and seeing Detroits uniforms in action for the first time, I think it’s a major upgrade. I can’t even see the lion details on the helmet with the lights of the Superdome bouncing off the helmlts, so that’s a wash. The number do have that funky corner, but again, only noticeable if you look closely. My only problem with them is the wide grey shoulder ‘stripe’. When it gets that big, it’s no longer a stripe, but a colored sleeve. Needs to bee thinned out a bit.

    link

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