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And Now You Find Yourself in Eighty-two

partie d'etoiles

By Phil Hecken and Larry Wiederecht

And you thought “80’s week” was over. Not quite yet. I’m joined today, once again, by Larry “Lwiedy” Wiederecht, who is here with the third in our on-going series looking back on the pages of All Star Game programs. And, with the 2009 version of the Mid-Summer Classic only two days away (and the Home Run Derby taking place tomorrow) in St. Louis, the timing couldn’t be better. Larry’s going to take us back to le classique du milieu de l’été. Or something like that. It’s the one from Montreal — or Montréal. Oui. Mon Dieu.

So, here’s one more program from the “vaults” before the game this Tuesday. Previously, we profiled two great publications from the 1972 game in Atlanta and Milwaukee’s effort in 1975. Filled with great artwork and plenty of local flavor, it’s always a gas to flip through the pages. The same can’t quite be said for the official publication of “Partie D’Etoiles”.

So why bother? Well, it’s yet another reminder of what happens when MLB gets their grubby little paws on something. While all the programs from the 1970’s and earlier were produced primarily by the host club, the 1980’s brought us “cookie cutter” programs produced by the Commissioner’s Office with just a tad of help from those hosting the event. The cover was a poor copy of the concept used just one year earlier.

Yes there was the whole bi-lingual concept, which was neat but no ads from the corner bar or car dealerships that gave the others a “homey” feel. Instead, all the typical national sponsors got their turn:

Ah, the “genius” of Betamax, Sony’s look into the future that lasted less than 10 years.

The Balfour ad featured that year’s ring whose design certainly reflected the departure of the typical all-star experience that came with the international setting.

An element of the program that truly said “made by MLB” was forgoing the listing of the actual participants for pages and pages of all-star “nominees”. This allowed them to publish the program far earlier than the game would traditionally allow thus expanding distribution to local newsstands. How ridiculous was this practice? Third row, fifth from the left is the immortal Alan Fowlkes. After logging a dozen or so game in the big leagues, Al was included with the likes of Steve Carlton, Bruce Sutter & Fernando Valenzuela. Perhaps the disappointment of not making the squad explains why his career only spanned 23 total games — in total.

It did provide a plethora of photos and you can still see them on Ebay today cut up as “mini-cards”. Pete Rose made it quite clear with whom his equipment loyalties lay. And why is George Foster smiling? Why he just signed the first major free-agent contract offered by the New York Mets. Too bad he left the numbers that earned him all that dough behind in Cincinnati.

What do all the great all-stars have in common? An unyielding desired to be the best? The rarest natural ability? How about big ears.

As for the game itself, it was much of the same. Not much. The squads brought much color. That’s a lot of powder blue. The NL is led by a good number of hometown Expos and representatives from Montreal’s prior affiliation, the Los Angeles Dodgers.

Not much on the “odd uni-watch” that typically characterizes the mid-summer classic. Oh, the obligatory Cincinnati Red wearing white shoes and a couple guys borrowing helmets. Eck may have been reminiscing his days as an Indian. They did have one friggin’ big field logo which I’m sure they hoped would distract everyone from the disastrous turf and silly oversize warning track with painted lanes. Or maybe it was so that these fans could see it as well.

The game was so boring that ABC couldn’t go more than a pitch or two without trying to improving the view. My edited broadcast included Mrs. Eckersley, Mrs. Yount, Mrs. Dale Murphy, Mrs. Fred Lynn (isn’t that cute, she’s wearing his #19) among others. Reggie and Rickey’s moms also received air time.

Some unintended comic relief was provided by this “conversation” between Billy and John McSherry.

Maybe the 1982 All-Star program and game doesn’t rate among the classics, but if this Tuesday’s game doesn’t live up to the hype, just remember it’ll have company. Unlike 1982, however, this one counts.

Thanks Larry! Always love the lookbacks. And maybe it’s just me, but it sure looks like Pete Rose is wearing a pullover, while the other Phillies are all in zippered tops.

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scoreboard

Guess The Game From The Scoreboard: Once again, not a particularly difficult scoreboard, as all the clues are right on the field. As with yesterday, if you solve it, and without giving away the answer, if you could describe what about the photo you used for clues in solving the mystery. Good job yesterday, folks. Ok, ready? Guess The Game.

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From the insane genius that is OCD-DIYer Robert Marshall, we now have “t-shirts” (I guess that’s what they’d be) for some of UW’s finest. That’s right. Don’t think these will ever make it to market, but if they ever did, I bet a few of us would be consumers. So, here’s the first “batch” of gag shirts:

T-Shirt #1
T-Shirt #2
T-Shirt #3

I love that last one. “Sure to induce a heart attack” I’m calling it. Thanks, rpm. Anyone got any suggestions for other t-shirts? I’m sure Mr. Marshall would love to try his hand at some more. Of course, they have to be ‘UW reader related’. The rest is up to you. And of course, that third T-shirt is such a perfect segue to…

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benchies header

Sunday Benchies is kinda, sorta in honor of the negro league tribute yesterday. OK, not really. But it’s still good. Here’s your Sunday Benchies.

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And now, a quick word from my doubles partner, Brinke Guthrie, who has found another sign the apocalypse is nigh. The only question is the over/under on the number of pairs Powers purchases. We’ll set the O/U at 1.5.

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la lakers alternate

Got the following note from reader Randy Miller, who had read my A Reversal of Fortune Color post a couple weekends ago.

A few days ago you had a post on uniwatch about teams using older color schemes with new logos and vice versa. I thought I’d do that with a few NFL team helmets.

Here’s the break-down and my thinking behind it. I have to admit, the only 2 I care for are my Broncos and Patriots design.

1. Seahawks new logo with original color scheme. I like the green in the stripe pattern like in the original logo.

2. Broncos new logo in the Elway era color scheme. This is my favorite one. I hated that the Broncos dropped the orange tops for blue. Only when they wear those orange alternates do I feel there is a connection to the past.

3. Colts modern design with the 1954-1955 color scheme. I thought this would be cool, but in hindsight, I think the Colts have a design that shouldn’t be touched.

4. Patriots modern logo with “pat patriot” color scheme. I have NEVER, ever liked the flying elvis or the silver color scheme. I enlarged the logo (since the white outline would be dropped) and put it on the Andre Tippett era white helmet/red mask helmet. Better I feel, still no pat patriot. Oh and I DO prefer the smaller pat patriot design and not the billboard sized one seen near the end.

Thanks, Randy. Interestingly enough, I had already prepared the following before receiving that comment, so Randy’s note serves as a nice intro to this:

Looking back on the “Reversal of Color” column and all the great reader submissions, I saved most of them to my flickr account and, of course, didn’t write down the names of any of those who submitted their work (although most of those can be found on that day and the succeeding day’s post). In no particular order, (and giving credit to none — feel free to say “hey, that’s mine”), here’s the ten best (IMHO):

San Diego Padres in modern logo, with 70’s colors.

Atlanta Hawks modern logo/old school colors.

Philadelphia Eagles modern logo/throwback colors.

Ohio State and Michigan color swap.

Denver Broncos modern logo/original colorscheme.

Buffalo Sabres old/new color swap.

New York Jets current logo with Titans colors.

Tampa Bay Rays old/new color swap.

Denver Nuggets old school logo/modern colors.

Boston team logo mashup.

Great job to all those who did those logo “swaps.” Suggestions/comments are still being accepted, so if anyone wants to produce/request any others … fire away.

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Phew…that’s a lot for a summer Sunday. Enjoy it everyone!

 
  
 
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    Does anyone know the circumstances on how Billy Martin was selected the manager of the AL squad in 1982? It should have been Bob Lemon of the Yankees, but he couldn’t avoid being on the receiving end of the Steinbrenner axe before the All-Star Game.

    So, why was it Martin? Just curious!

    Oh, my everlovin’ goodness! (And might I also throw in a hearty “cornmother” for good measure?) I am SO buying a “WWRS” shirt. Hell, I’m buying ’em for my whole family. Put me down for 5.

    Maybe I’d better sleep on it to make sure this isn’t just the Heat Of The Moment talking.

    Thanks for sharing your ASG progs, lwiedy. I have a stash of ASG progs going back to 1969. I know we don’t normally talk programs here. But the comment about MLB taking the reins from the host clubs in producing ASG progs and rather destrying them is very true. The 1980 ASG prog with the Dodgers as host was the last team produced program. It was – for its time – an amazing publication. The next one, the ’81 game in Cleveland, was MLB Productions’ first one and the quality plunged. They very slowly got better and better, but IMHO, the quality of the 1980 ASG program wouldn’t be equalled until the 1993 ASG from Baltimore.

    The 1980’s were dreadful for MLB’s showcase event programs. The World Series progs from this era were also rather pitiful.

    Sorry for the digression, but I love my progs, too!!

    Here’s the game

    link

    Being a Sox fan, I looked at the Jimmy Fund logo, which says 53 years together. It now says 56 years, so that narrowed the year down to 2006. Noted the Sox record on the standings board, went to the schedule page on baseball-reference.com, found the date the record would be correct.

    I sort of stumbled across these yesterday and wanted to share them here. It’s Bowling Green’s men’s soccer jersey. Very strange imo. It’s Adidas, but appears to not have the three stripes, but adds a bizarre shoulder yoke. All I’m going to add is that I hope they never catch on.

    link

    I remember going to an Expos game a year or two after the ASG and there was still a faint image of that huge logo on the turf.

    As for the lines on the warning track behind home plate, I always thought it was because they put the Astroturf over the track where the Olympic running events were held.

    I can’t actually see if the jersey has a zipper, but I don’t think that’s a pullover link. I think he’s just got a white undesrhirt on.

    I won’t put a link for the guess the scoreboard so more people can figure it out, but I used the standings.

    Today is the 30th anniversary of Disco Demolition Night at Comminsky Park in Chicago.

    There’s something fundamentally gut-wrenching about the Ohio St./Michigan swap. Being a Texan, I don’t really have any loyalty or strong feelings about either of the teams, but seeing each logo in the other’s colors made me feel a little queasy

    I have to say…I’m a big fan of the Tampa Bay switch. I’m not sure why, but that rainbow looks great in the new logo.

    real quick, got’a ump…
    1) no, these are not intended for sale
    B) yes, i will be making one for myself.
    #) cram it with walnuts, ha ha haahahhayhhaa ha.

    A ‘silver like’ alloy called Cellestrium, a’simulated’ garnet, and a simulated diamond called a ‘dimonique’. WTF, is their anything of any value on the AllStar ring? LOL!

    [quote comment=”339282″]Today is the 30th anniversary of Disco Demolition Night at Comminsky Park in Chicago.[/quote]
    Um, where?

    Oddly enough, the ’82 NL All-Stars featured the unrelated link and link as the only St. Louis Cardinals… who link that year! Wonder why Bruce Sutter wasn’t on the All-Star team?

    [quote comment=”339272″]Does anyone know the circumstances on how Billy Martin was selected the manager of the AL squad in 1982? It should have been Bob Lemon of the Yankees, but he couldn’t avoid being on the receiving end of the Steinbrenner axe before the All-Star Game.

    So, why was it Martin? Just curious![/quote]

    Since Lemon had been fired, they decided that he shouldn’t manage the All-Star team. Billy was the manager of the A’s who had lost the 1981 ALCS to the Yankees, so that is how he was picked

    [quote comment=”339288″][quote comment=”339282″]Today is the 30th anniversary of Disco Demolition Night at Comminsky Park in Chicago.[/quote]
    Um, where?[/quote]

    So my spelling not good.

    For the record, we now apparently have two Randy Millers on UniWatch.

    The U.S. managed to tie Haiti last night very very late in Gold Cup soccer — that would be a Haiti team with mismatched numeral fonts. Some players had a traditional rounded soccer font and others had the ‘generic corner sporting goods’ block numbers.

    That’s not to condemn Haiti, mind you, where the money isn’t flowing in buckets.

    Today’s Guess the Scoreboard is link

    I used 3 pieces of information:
    Washington was in the NL, so it was at least 2005
    Mark Hendrickson was the Tampa bay pitcher, so it had to bee 2004-2006
    Willie Harris was on the Red Sox, so it had to be 2006.
    I then looked thru the Tampa-Boston box scores for games in Boston, that Henrickson started and Harris played…voila!

    The “Guess the Game” is 5/28/06. Tried “cheating” and Googled the respective teams records and then got Wakefield as the starting pitcher although the scoreboard doesn’t read well and it was hard to see the 49. It’s much better if we just have the in-game box with uni numbers. That would reward the hard-core uni fans which this site is all about.

    Just saying

    [quote comment=”339290″][quote comment=”339272″]Does anyone know the circumstances on how Billy Martin was selected the manager of the AL squad in 1982? It should have been Bob Lemon of the Yankees, but he couldn’t avoid being on the receiving end of the Steinbrenner axe before the All-Star Game.

    So, why was it Martin? Just curious![/quote]

    Since Lemon had been fired, they decided that he shouldn’t manage the All-Star team. Billy was the manager of the A’s who had lost the 1981 ALCS to the Yankees, so that is how he was picked[/quote]
    Didn’t Dusty Baker (who was with the Cubs at that point) manage the 2003 NL team after going to the World Series with the Giants in 2002?

    [quote comment=”339297″][quote comment=”339290″][quote comment=”339272″]Does anyone know the circumstances on how Billy Martin was selected the manager of the AL squad in 1982? It should have been Bob Lemon of the Yankees, but he couldn’t avoid being on the receiving end of the Steinbrenner axe before the All-Star Game.

    So, why was it Martin? Just curious![/quote]

    Since Lemon had been fired, they decided that he shouldn’t manage the All-Star team. Billy was the manager of the A’s who had lost the 1981 ALCS to the Yankees, so that is how he was picked[/quote]
    Didn’t Dusty Baker (who was with the Cubs at that point) manage the 2003 NL team after going to the World Series with the Giants in 2002?[/quote]

    Yes, but Baker was still an active major league manager; Lemon was not. I believe Lemon stated that he didn’t think it would be right. Also different people made the decision.

    [quote comment=”339283″]There’s something fundamentally gut-wrenching about the Ohio St./Michigan swap. Being a Texan, I don’t really have any loyalty or strong feelings about either of the teams, but seeing each logo in the other’s colors made me feel a little queasy[/quote]
    Yes it is a little stomach-churning.

    those “painted lines” on the warning track are demarcate lanes of the track that was used when the Stade hosted the athletics competitions of the 1976 Summer Olympics. Initally, the astroturf was laid over so the Quebec Govt could still utilize the track. but I believe the track was removed in the late 80’s.

    [quote comment=”339277″]I sort of stumbled across these yesterday and wanted to share them here. It’s Bowling Green’s men’s soccer jersey. Very strange imo. It’s Adidas, but appears to not have the three stripes, but adds a bizarre shoulder yoke. All I’m going to add is that I hope they never catch on.

    link

    You’re right – hopefully they’ll be a one-and-done design. They should have read yesterday’s column for some advice!

    That’s my segue to…From the “I would be totally remiss if I didn’t add this” department, I think we can all agree on one thing from the MISL article. No matter your opinion on the designs, the 80s unis were beautiful because…no sponsor names on the jerseys!

    [quote comment=”339273″]Oh, my everlovin’ goodness! (And might I also throw in a hearty “cornmother” for good measure?) I am SO buying a “WWRS” shirt. Hell, I’m buying ’em for my whole family. Put me down for 5.

    Maybe I’d better sleep on it to make sure this isn’t just the Heat Of The Moment talking.[/quote]

    I want the whole set!

    Nice work, Randy! Although I’d rather see Pat the Patriot on the new helmet instead of vice versa.

    And I like the Field of Dweebs, Ricko! That could be the unofficial name for my old wiffle ball field.

    [quote comment=”339302″][quote comment=”339277″]I sort of stumbled across these yesterday and wanted to share them here. It’s Bowling Green’s men’s soccer jersey. Very strange imo. It’s Adidas, but appears to not have the three stripes, but adds a bizarre shoulder yoke. All I’m going to add is that I hope they never catch on.

    link

    You’re right – hopefully they’ll be a one-and-done design. They should have read yesterday’s column for some advice!

    That’s my segue to…From the “I would be totally remiss if I didn’t add this” department, I think we can all agree on one thing from the MISL article. No matter your opinion on the designs, the 80s unis were beautiful because…no sponsor names on the jerseys![/quote]

    But advertising has an important place in soccer. If it were not for jersey advertising, this company might be in trouble?

    link

    Good feature on a so-so program guys! Yeah, when they’re made too early they lose a bit of their charm. Even the Super Bowl 43 program suffers from this (that and the 7 million ads in it). They made it before the championship games were finished – just seemed weird they didn’t include that. Glad I got it as a gift – it may end up in the Uni Watch library one day.

    [quote comment=”339306″]Good feature on a so-so program guys! Yeah, when they’re made too early they lose a bit of their charm. Even the Super Bowl 43 program suffers from this (that and the 7 million ads in it). They made it before the championship games were finished – just seemed weird they didn’t include that. Glad I got it as a gift – it may end up in the Uni Watch library one day.[/quote]

    I have the SB XLIII game day edition program (with a $25 cover price tag) listing only the Steelers and Cardinals in it. The newsstand edition usually has the conference championship finalists featured (which would have included the Eagles and Ravens players). Game day editions (I think with the exception of SB XXXIV (Rams-Titans)) have always featured the two competing teams.

    World Series progs, on the other hand, from the time MLB took over those in 1974 thru the 1992 WS, had the 4 teams that made the LCS featured as opposed to just the two league champs. That’s why a lot of the teams in the 1974-1992 era WS progs stuck special inserts in the program to give it more of a local feel.

    The lines on the warning track at Olympic Stadium were indeed the running track from the 1976 Olympics. When the stadium was set up in football configuration, just about the entire track was visible

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    And in Olympic Stadium’s defence, in 1982 it was (for the time) still a pretty good stadium. It was the heyday of the cookie cutter stadium, and even stadiums like Kansas City and St. Louis still had Astroturf. It looks goofy now, but faded patchwork astroturf was pretty common then. Its an easy thing to forget now when only a couple teams are still in stadiums that also host football, and only 3 (soon to be 2) teams still have artificial turf.

    And one more thing from the AL team photo that I’d never noticed before – Boston’s road jersey used to have different spacing – with the BOS on one side of the opening, and TON on the other, leading to some goofy spacing.

    By 1986, they’d moved the “S” to the placket, leading to more conventional spacing.

    [quote comment=”339307″][quote comment=”339306″]Good feature on a so-so program guys! Yeah, when they’re made too early they lose a bit of their charm. Even the Super Bowl 43 program suffers from this (that and the 7 million ads in it). They made it before the championship games were finished – just seemed weird they didn’t include that. Glad I got it as a gift – it may end up in the Uni Watch library one day.[/quote]

    I have the SB XLIII game day edition program (with a $25 cover price tag) listing only the Steelers and Cardinals in it. The newsstand edition usually has the conference championship finalists featured (which would have included the Eagles and Ravens players). Game day editions (I think with the exception of SB XXXIV (Rams-Titans)) have always featured the two competing teams.

    World Series progs, on the other hand, from the time MLB took over those in 1974 thru the 1992 WS, had the 4 teams that made the LCS featured as opposed to just the two league champs. That’s why a lot of the teams in the 1974-1992 era WS progs stuck special inserts in the program to give it more of a local feel.[/quote]

    Timmy, thanks for the “amplification” on several of the points made in the article. Although I was aware of all the production changes you mentioned that took place over the years (most of deduced through empirical evidence only), I really didn’t know if anyone else knew (or cared) about it. When speaking of the MLB takeover, I didn’t pinpoint the 1981 program since I wasn’t 100% sure if the LA program was all-Dodgers or not. They (unfortunately) were the “innovators” of the nominee listings, but MLB did run with it.

    You are definitely correct that 1993 was a turning point for the program and that now they are a pretty much a good production. It still can be difficult to know which program you are buying because they still do editions other than “gameday”.

    There also has been discussion of Super Bowl programs have non-competing teams included in the program. The first evidence I’ve seen of this actually goes back to SBXVII. With the 1982 strike, they eliminated the open week before the game and there is an edition with the Jets & Dolphins, Cowboys & Redskins. They did also have a “gameday” with just the two but I bought the former at a newsstand in Time Square in May of 1983.

    [quote comment=”339289″]Oddly enough, the ’82 NL All-Stars featured the unrelated link and link as the only St. Louis Cardinals… who link that year! Wonder why Bruce Sutter wasn’t on the All-Star team?[/quote]

    The WS winner almost always gets loaded up the year after. Additional recognition, manager’s selections, but they are rarely as deserving as the year before.

    [quote comment=”339309″]The lines on the warning track at Olympic Stadium were indeed the running track from the 1976 Olympics. When the stadium was set up in football configuration, just about the entire track was visible

    link

    And in Olympic Stadium’s defence, in 1982 it was (for the time) still a pretty good stadium. It was the heyday of the cookie cutter stadium, and even stadiums like Kansas City and St. Louis still had Astroturf. It looks goofy now, but faded patchwork astroturf was pretty common then. Its an easy thing to forget now when only a couple teams are still in stadiums that also host football, and only 3 (soon to be 2) teams still have artificial turf.[/quote]

    Since you seem to have a dog in this fight, I’ll ask you. Could it be said that this game was the pinnacle of baseball in Montreal?

    Every year since ’79 the Expos took one step closer and 1982 was going to be the big year and with that club it seems that it should have been. I do recall the notion that it was going to be a great year with the ASG & WS coming to Quebec but it didn’t happen.

    [quote comment=”339314″][quote comment=”339309″]The lines on the warning track at Olympic Stadium were indeed the running track from the 1976 Olympics. When the stadium was set up in football configuration, just about the entire track was visible

    link

    And in Olympic Stadium’s defence, in 1982 it was (for the time) still a pretty good stadium. It was the heyday of the cookie cutter stadium, and even stadiums like Kansas City and St. Louis still had Astroturf. It looks goofy now, but faded patchwork astroturf was pretty common then. Its an easy thing to forget now when only a couple teams are still in stadiums that also host football, and only 3 (soon to be 2) teams still have artificial turf.[/quote]

    Since you seem to have a dog in this fight, I’ll ask you. Could it be said that this game was the pinnacle of baseball in Montreal?

    Every year since ’79 the Expos took one step closer and 1982 was going to be the big year and with that club it seems that it should have been. I do recall the notion that it was going to be a great year with the ASG & WS coming to Quebec but it didn’t happen.[/quote]

    It was certainly the first pinnacle. They were so close in 79 and 80, then Blue Monday in 1981, expectations were pretty high in 1982.

    1993-1994 was pretty close as well. That 1993 team won 94 games (which would have gotten them into the playoffs in just about any year with a wild card) and 1994 was great until it was cut short.

    In both cases the roster was just loaded with great young talent.

    (1993 was a weird year because the Expos missed the playoffs with 94 wins and the Giants missed with 103 (!!!) wins, that sort of thing won’t ever happen again)

    [quote comment=”339316″]All-Star Reds in obligatory white shoes; A’s are wearing their blacks.[/quote]

    I know it’s hard to tell but the A’s are actually wearing dark green. ’82 was the “sole” year that they wore non-white (road only).

    I caught a bit of Brad Radke being inducted into the Twins HOF and noticed that the man running the onfield camera was wearing a Twins jersey with NOB of “Camera Guy”.

    Uni Watch Meet-up: The Expatriate Homecoming Edition
    I will be at the Mets/Rockies Wed 29 July at The Shea Sequel. Seeing that there are a lot of Mets fans among us, I was wondering if anybody else had plans to catch that game.

    [quote comment=”339318″][quote comment=”339316″]All-Star Reds in obligatory white shoes; A’s are wearing their blacks.[/quote]

    I know it’s hard to tell but the A’s are actually wearing dark green. ’82 was the “sole” year that they wore non-white (road only).[/quote]

    Black or green, I love the white laces.

    [quote comment=”339321″]http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh189/lwiedy/1982%20All%20Star%20Game%20Program/82AL.jpg

    Don’t remember those Blue Jays’ powder blues being that dark.[/quote]

    That’s because he’s wearing a BP top. Buddy Bell, too.

    [quote comment=”339321″]http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh189/lwiedy/1982%20All%20Star%20Game%20Program/82AL.jpg

    Don’t remember those Blue Jays’ powder blues being that dark.[/quote]
    I’m fairly certain that’s a BP jersey. It appears to be a darker blue than the pants.

    I’m thinking the the Rangers jersey (on Buddy Bell?) in the top row is also of the BP variety.

    [quote comment=”339324″][quote comment=”339321″]http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh189/lwiedy/1982%20All%20Star%20Game%20Program/82AL.jpg

    Don’t remember those Blue Jays’ powder blues being that dark.[/quote]

    That’s because he’s wearing a BP top. Buddy Bell, too.[/quote]
    GAH!
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    Note to self: reload the page before posting comments.

    [quote comment=”339296″]anyone know why espn is putting car manufacturers next to the tour de france leaders?[/quote]

    I saw that too! Apparently Lance Armstrong drives a Dodge.

    I just bought an old Andre Dawson Expos jersey and to my surprise, it included the 82 ASG logo on the sleeve. Nothing says it’s the middle of summer like watching the ASG. Question is, will the National League ever win again?

    I guess I am the first and only person to get the ASIA reference in the title of today’s post.

    PS-
    Caption for this photo: “I get all these cool jerseys for at least the next 4 years!”

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    Michigan logo looks sharp with Buckeye colors.

    Ohio State logo does not look good in reverse.

    Interesting concept though. I saw those a few weeks ago and it is fun to see them.

    [quote comment=”339313″][quote comment=”339289″]Oddly enough, the ’82 NL All-Stars featured the unrelated link and link as the only St. Louis Cardinals… who link that year! Wonder why Bruce Sutter wasn’t on the All-Star team?[/quote]

    The WS winner almost always gets loaded up the year after. Additional recognition, manager’s selections, but they are rarely as deserving as the year before.[/quote]

    That’s why there were so many Dodgers on the 1982 team. 1981 was also the only year Les Expos made it to the postseason.

    [quote comment=”339321″]http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh189/lwiedy/1982%20All%20Star%20Game%20Program/82AL.jpg

    Don’t remember those Blue Jays’ powder blues being that dark.[/quote]

    That’s their batting jersey.

    [quote comment=”339329″]I guess I am the first and only person to get the ASIA reference in the title of today’s post.[/quote]

    Na, I got too. Phil is a good headline writer. Ccomment #2 may have been referencing the title but I’m not sure.

    [quote comment=”339329″]I guess I am the first and only person to get the ASIA reference in the title of today’s post.[/quote]

    You’re the first to post it, but I got it. Just got caught up in “The Heat of the Moment” and didn’t have time to post…

    [quote comment=”339333″][quote comment=”339329″]I guess I am the first and only person to get the ASIA reference in the title of today’s post.[/quote]

    Na, I got too. Phil is a good headline writer. Ccomment #2 may have been referencing the title but I’m not sure.[/quote]

    Now that I see that again, JTH got it first.

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    First, I looked at the pitching matchup on the scoreboard… then I looked at the lineup on the scoreboard in the top right corner… I noticed that Willie Harris was in the game… then I remembered that I was AT that game. We almost lost that one until Harris gunned down one of the Devil Rays trying to score at home in the top of the ninth. I remember that game clearly, cuz afterward me and my (now wife, then) girlfriend had to SPRINT through the subway stations and to South Station to catch the train, which we literally hopped on milliseconds before pulling away from the platform. I haven’t forgiven Julian Tavares or Rudy Seanez to this day.

    [quote comment=”339303″][quote comment=”339273″]Oh, my everlovin’ goodness! (And might I also throw in a hearty “cornmother” for good measure?) I am SO buying a “WWRS” shirt. Hell, I’m buying ’em for my whole family. Put me down for 5.

    Maybe I’d better sleep on it to make sure this isn’t just the Heat Of The Moment talking.[/quote]

    I want the whole set![/quote]

    Robert, did you get my email yet?

    [quote comment=”339333″][quote comment=”339329″]I guess I am the first and only person to get the ASIA reference in the title of today’s post.[/quote]

    Na, I got too. Phil is a good headline writer. Ccomment #2 may have been referencing the title but I’m not sure.[/quote]

    heh…not so sure about the “good headline writer” part, but JTH certainly did catch the ref…

    was actually thinking of going with the disco hotspots hold no charm for you or some other line from the song…but that may have been (both stupid and) too obscure

    actually, i was trying first for something remotely related to “montreal,” but those efforts failed, and it went with the old standby from asia (a vastly underrated band, imho — ever check out any tablature from them? that shit’s not three chord’s and a refrain — couple guys from yes and ELP formed it)…little too top 40 on some of their songs, but i loved em (course i was in 10th grade when the first album came out, so that was when i was just starting to discover good music, and this kinda fell somewhere in between the radio crap i was listening to and the good, old, classic album rock i was exploring)

    /whoa…sorry for that…TFMI i guess

    [quote comment=”339279″]I remember going to an Expos game a year or two after the ASG and there was still a faint image of that huge logo on the turf.[/quote]

    Same thing happened after the last USFL championship game. For a year or two there was a shadow of the USFL logo at midfield of Giants Stadium. Seeing Maurice Carthon running for the Giants and Kelvin Bryant running for the Skins while seeing the ghost of that logo always made me a little verklempt.

    [quote comment=”339321″]http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh189/lwiedy/1982%20All%20Star%20Game%20Program/82AL.jpg

    Don’t remember those Blue Jays’ powder blues being that dark.[/quote]

    they were not that dark. because that is not a powder jersey, but a royal bp jersey.

    [quote comment=”339339″][quote comment=”339333″][quote comment=”339329″]I guess I am the first and only person to get the ASIA reference in the title of today’s post.[/quote]

    Na, I got too. Phil is a good headline writer. Ccomment #2 may have been referencing the title but I’m not sure.[/quote]

    heh…not so sure about the “good headline writer” part, but JTH certainly did catch the ref…

    was actually thinking of going with the disco hotspots hold no charm for you or some other line from the song…but that may have been (both stupid and) too obscure

    actually, i was trying first for something remotely related to “montreal,” but those efforts failed, and it went with the old standby from asia (a vastly underrated band, imho — ever check out any tablature from them? that shit’s not three chord’s and a refrain — couple guys from yes and ELP formed it)…little too top 40 on some of their songs, but i loved em (course i was in 10th grade when the first album came out, so that was when i was just starting to discover good music, and this kinda fell somewhere in between the radio crap i was listening to and the good, old, classic album rock i was exploring)

    /whoa…sorry for that…TFMI i guess[/quote]

    Any Montreal joke I would have come up with would have involved smoked meat, Men Without Hats or a peeler bar on St. Catherine St., so very well played with the Asia reference.

    Re the “Reversal of Color”: that Atlanta Hawks logo in green and blue totally rocked! (Those early-’70s lime green/blue/white unis were my all-time NBA guilty pleasures, along with the Bullets’ red/white/blue “J” stripes of similar vintage.)

    [quote comment=”339339″][quote comment=”339333″][quote comment=”339329″]I guess I am the first and only person to get the ASIA reference in the title of today’s post.[/quote]

    Na, I got too. Phil is a good headline writer. Ccomment #2 may have been referencing the title but I’m not sure.[/quote]

    heh…not so sure about the “good headline writer” part, but JTH certainly did catch the ref…

    was actually thinking of going with the disco hotspots hold no charm for you or some other line from the song…but that may have been (both stupid and) too obscure

    actually, i was trying first for something remotely related to “montreal,” but those efforts failed, and it went with the old standby from asia (a vastly underrated band, imho — ever check out any tablature from them? that shit’s not three chord’s and a refrain — couple guys from yes and ELP formed it)…little too top 40 on some of their songs, but i loved em (course i was in 10th grade when the first album came out, so that was when i was just starting to discover good music, and this kinda fell somewhere in between the radio crap i was listening to and the good, old, classic album rock i was exploring)

    /whoa…sorry for that…TFMI i guess[/quote]

    Ok, since you brought it up.

    I was a senior in HS when the album was released. As a massive ELP fan and a big fan of Yes I remember with great anticipation the release of this album. Although it was pop, it was done very well IMO. Saw them at the Capital Theatre in Jersey in the spring of ’82. I think they got a little too enamored with having a radio sound, so everything after the debut record did not stack up.

    Just for laughs I caught the 25th Anniversary show in Clearwater last year and it was good. Brought back memories of a fun time.

    “Hey, that Boston mashup is mine!”

    Thanks for including my mashup in there, Phil!

    in the middle of my umpire shift, another one came to me when one player called another player sasquatch. i laughed so hard i almost pissed myself.
    link

    [quote comment=”339346″]in the middle of my umpire shift, another one came to me when one player called another player sasquatch. i laughed so hard i almost pissed myself.
    link[/quote]
    You should send one of those to Bob Brenly. Maybe he’ll put in a good word for you with Cubs management and they’ll let you sing “Take Me out to the Ballgame.”

    [quote comment=”339339″]was actually thinking of going with the disco hotspots hold no charm for you or some other line from the song…but that may have been (both stupid and) too obscure

    actually, i was trying first for something remotely related to “montreal,” but those efforts failed, and it went with the old standby from asia (a vastly underrated band, imho — ever check out any tablature from them? that shit’s not three chord’s and a refrain — couple guys from yes and ELP formed it)…little too top 40 on some of their songs, but i loved em (course i was in 10th grade when the first album came out, so that was when i was just starting to discover good music, and this kinda fell somewhere in between the radio crap i was listening to and the good, old, classic album rock i was exploring)

    /whoa…sorry for that…TFMI i guess[/quote]
    If you wanted to go the contemporary route, you could have always gone with some Of Montreal lyrics, but they’re from Athens, Georgia.

    Or there’s always the Arcade Fire for a band that’s actually from Montreal.

    Or else you could have dug up some Godspeed You! Black Emperor for a slightly more obscure Montreal band. If you’d done that and Jason Lee ever stumbled across the post, I’m sure he’d have appreciated it. I’m not sure anyone else would, though.

    Whoa! Ramble much? I never meant to be so bad to you.

    [quote]If you wanted to go the contemporary route, you could have always gone with some Of Montreal lyrics, but they’re from Athens, Georgia[/quote]

    ok…i had thought aboot that, also montreal by allison crowe or this little ditty by adam ant

    but…that would have been WAAAAAAAAAY overthinking things

    the other tack was a play on “partie d’etoiles” but that hurt my head

    /so done with this now

    ok…on the road now…back in 3 hours…l8r

    got inspired by the Michigan/Ohio State switch and tried my hand with the Packers and Bears, needless to say the results were disturbing…

    link

    -Greenie

    [quote comment=”339347″][quote comment=”339346″]in the middle of my umpire shift, another one came to me when one player called another player sasquatch. i laughed so hard i almost pissed myself.
    link[/quote]
    You should send one of those to Bob Brenly. Maybe he’ll put in a good word for you with Cubs management and they’ll let you sing “Take Me out to the Ballgame.”[/quote]

    ha. you’re right brenly would like that one. next time you run into him, tell him about it:)

    Here’s one to add on to my Boston mashup…

    Pat Patriot in the current silver scheme. Not bad looking at all…

    link

    P.S. Randy Miller, nice work on those helmets!!

    [quote comment=\”339354\”]Nice shirt they are selling at Fenway in honor of Bay becoming a US citizen

    link

    They have them for a ton of Sox players, I was at the game on Tuesday night and saw them at the souvenir booth, and saw many people wearing Youk stars and stripes shirts.

    [quote comment=”339355″]Here’s one to add on to my Boston mashup…

    Pat Patriot in the current silver scheme. Not bad looking at all…

    link

    P.S. Randy Miller, nice work on those helmets!![/quote]

    Yes! Very nice.

    [quote comment=”339352″]got inspired by the Michigan/Ohio State switch and tried my hand with the Packers and Bears, needless to say the results were disturbing…

    link

    -Greenie[/quote]

    Your orange Packer helmet looks like the Green High School Bulldogs just outside of Akron, OH
    link
    How appropriate, Greenie, that you did this!

    Always wondered why Green doesn’t wear green.

    [quote comment=”339358″][quote comment=”339352″]got inspired by the Michigan/Ohio State switch and tried my hand with the Packers and Bears, needless to say the results were disturbing…

    link

    -Greenie[/quote]

    Your orange Packer helmet looks like the Green High School Bulldogs just outside of Akron, OH
    link
    How appropriate, Greenie, that you did this!

    Always wondered why Green doesn’t wear green.[/quote]

    ya know…and i should save this, but what the eff…(cuz this will be a part of a future, larger weekend offering)…

    didja ever wonder what the pack would look like if they went EE on us?

    well…didja?

    [quote comment=”339360″][quote comment=”339358″][quote comment=”339352″]got inspired by the Michigan/Ohio State switch and tried my hand with the Packers and Bears, needless to say the results were disturbing…

    link

    -Greenie[/quote]

    Your orange Packer helmet looks like the Green High School Bulldogs just outside of Akron, OH
    link
    How appropriate, Greenie, that you did this!

    Always wondered why Green doesn’t wear green.[/quote]

    ya know…and i should save this, but what the eff…(cuz this will be a part of a future, larger weekend offering)…

    didja ever wonder what the pack would look like if they went EE on us?

    link[/quote]

    Why not? For about 20 years the Esks looked like the Pack – it’s time to return the favor!

    How about if the Steelers looked like the Hamilton Tiger-Cats?

    Detroit/B.C. Lions?

    Patriots/Alouettes?

    Jets/Roughriders?

    Rams/Bombers? (don’t forget the Bomber throwbacks)

    Chiefs/Stampeders?

    Giants/Argonauts?

    [quote comment=”339363″]How about if the Steelers looked like the Hamilton Tiger-Cats?

    Detroit/B.C. Lions?

    Patriots/Alouettes?

    Jets/Roughriders?

    Rams/Bombers? (don’t forget the Bomber throwbacks)

    Chiefs/Stampeders?

    Giants/Argonauts?[/quote]

    What the BC Lions are going to be taken over by the Ford\’s, hire Matt Millen and their GM, take a bunch of horrible players and go 0-18? Oh, wait you mean the colors never mind.

    [quote comment=”339365″][quote comment=”339363″]How about if the Steelers looked like the Hamilton Tiger-Cats?[/quote]

    not quite sure if this is what you’re looking for…

    link

    (not too much difference in team colours)[/quote]

    More like the Steelers in this link

    Or this link

    [quote comment=”339349″][quote comment=”339339″]was actually thinking of going with the disco hotspots hold no charm for you or some other line from the song…but that may have been (both stupid and) too obscure

    actually, i was trying first for something remotely related to “montreal,” but those efforts failed, and it went with the old standby from asia (a vastly underrated band, imho — ever check out any tablature from them? that shit’s not three chord’s and a refrain — couple guys from yes and ELP formed it)…little too top 40 on some of their songs, but i loved em (course i was in 10th grade when the first album came out, so that was when i was just starting to discover good music, and this kinda fell somewhere in between the radio crap i was listening to and the good, old, classic album rock i was exploring)

    /whoa…sorry for that…TFMI i guess[/quote]
    If you wanted to go the contemporary route, you could have always gone with some Of Montreal lyrics, but they’re from Athens, Georgia.

    Or there’s always the Arcade Fire for a band that’s actually from Montreal.

    Or else you could have dug up some Godspeed You! Black Emperor for a slightly more obscure Montreal band. If you’d done that and Jason Lee ever stumbled across the post, I’m sure he’d have appreciated it. I’m not sure anyone else would, though.

    Whoa! Ramble much? I never meant to be so bad to you.[/quote]

    Ah I recall coming across the first Asia album @ Q102 in Cincinnati. Found it in the production studio and just played it into the ground. Asia’s had about ten zillion guys in the band, but I -think- they’re back to their original lineup. John Wetton could bring it.

    Interesting sequence of events at Wrigley just now, and I haven’t seen this move done in at least 20 years…

    The Cards’ Brendan Ryan steps to the plate (wearing stirrups, natch). Lou Piniella brings the stirrup-clad Aaron Heilman in to pitch, but he does not take Sean Marshall out of the game. Instead, he brings Alfonso Soriano out and Marshall replaces him in left field.

    After Heilman strikes Ryan out, Marshall comes back to pitch. So who replaces him in left? Reed Johnson, another stirrups-wearer, of course. And Johnson just made a fantastic diving “catch” to save at least two runs.

    [quote comment=”339366″][quote comment=”339365″][quote comment=”339363″]How about if the Steelers looked like the Hamilton Tiger-Cats?[/quote]

    not quite sure if this is what you’re looking for…

    link

    (not too much difference in team colours)[/quote]

    More like the Steelers in this link

    Or this link

    oh…i see what you did there…gotcha now

    so you’re wanting the pats to look even more godawful than normal

    something like this

    instead of the stillers like you wanted, how about:

    this

    this

    or this?

    Looking at Pete Rose in the team photo, I think he was wearing a zip up jersey, but had it zipped all the way up and wore a white t-shirt underneath. The distance between him and the photographer and the overall quality of the photo create the optical illusion that his jersey was a pullover.

    [quote comment=”339287″]The Rays wore their 1998 Devil Rays throwbacks yesterday. Really.[/quote]

    There should honestly be some kind of guidelines for what determines a “throwback”. 1998 doesn’t say throwback to me. It says “We here in Tampa have dressed our team in Dole Pineapple labels, and now we regret it. Remember these jerseys?”

    These points may have been mentioned already, but I found two things interesting from the two team photos:
    1. The A’s players wore white sani’s when it appears they should have worn the classic gold sani’s:
    link

    2. The lone Mets player decided to wear the home alternate blue top in the picture. Looks so out of place!
    link

    Interesting that it is a coke ad shown in the program when Pepsi is more popular in Quebec

    You did the Rays (which looks GREAT, btw). Why didn’t you do the T.B. Bucs? I gotta admit, I thought those mix-matches would look terrible, but I really like most of them! I don’t have Photoshop (yet), but could someone put the old orange with the new swash-buckler logo? I’ll bet that would look good….

    [quote comment=”339458″]You did the Rays (which looks GREAT, btw). Why didn’t you do the T.B. Bucs? I gotta admit, I thought those mix-matches would look terrible, but I really like most of them! I don’t have Photoshop (yet), but could someone put the old orange with the new swash-buckler logo? I’ll bet that would look good….[/quote]

    someone actually did the bucs

    several ways

    in fact

    I would like to see the current Utah Jazz logo done with the old school purple gold and green.

    Guess the scoreboard:

    It’s obviously at Fenway.
    The Green Monster has seats, so it had to be in the last few years.
    The standings give away the rest.

    phil~
    taking the day off and going with pineapple to the aO’s game across the street. if there are two teams in black softball uni’s playing, you should be able to hear my head explode from long island.
    ~robert

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