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Tracking The Unis, Part II

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By Phil Hecken

OK. On to day two of the Uni Tracking Extravaganza. If you missed part one — it’s here. Lots to get to today, so we’ll start right in.

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We begin today with Mike Styczen (“Mike 2”), who is the Toronto Blue Jays trackmaster.

First off, let me say that I despise the current Blue Jays uniforms. I grew up watching the Expos and then (after 1977) the Jays, my Dad took me to my first game at Exhibition Stadium about a month into the 1977 season, and then through the 80s I lived and died with Moseby, Barfield, Bell, Griffin, Whitt, Stieb, Clancy”¦ To me, the Blue Jays will always be double blue trim on white at Exhibition Stadium, blue and white trim on powder blue (and later, grey) on the road, the old circular logo, and (especially) the split numbers and letters. It was good enough for five AL East titles, two AL pennants and two World Series, its good enough for me.

On to this year’s uniforms. The Jays have worn five combinations this year ”“ white jersey (always with “J” cap), grey jersey (always with “T” cap), black jersey (always with “T” cap), powder blue throwback set, and black jersey / red “Maple Leaf” cap. The Jays were following a regular pattern ”“ greys on the road and whites at home, except for home day games (black jerseys) and Friday home games (powder blue set). They’ve broken that pattern lately by wearing the black jersey twice on the road.

The only trend to emerge so far this season is that they were undefeated wearing black jerseys (9-0, all home day games) until they started wearing them on the road last week in Atlanta. They’re now 9-2 in the black jerseys.

The complete record, by jersey and cap, is here.

I’ve been using a simple excel spreadsheet to track the whole thing. Right now I’m only recording whether games are day or night games; I had been tracking starting pitchers until I figured out the pattern. I’ve also been keeping a picture from each game, just in case I have to go back to refer to it later for some reason. A screenshot of the spreadsheet is here.

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Next up is Gregg Girard, who, like myself, is a New York Mets tracker.

Phil, for no reason, I tracked Mets uniform combinations in 1999. Since it was before the so-called “internet age” (or at least at the dawn of it), it was an incredible burden. If I didn’t watch a game, I had to make sure to catch the highlights on local news or Sports Center. When I was on vacation, I set the VCR to record the last 20 minutes of the news, and enlisted the help of a friend (and a Yankees fan at that) to serve as a backup. I was a young lawyer at the time, and the pressure of uni tracking became too much for me to handle. I gave up in the middle of July.

Fast forward to 2006. The idea of beginning the Mets Project as I called it, popped into my head in spring training. I decided it would be much easier this time around, now that the internet was there to back me up. I ended up tracking the 2006 and 2007 seasons. Somehow, I talked myself out of keeping track in 2008, but I’m making a comeback here in ’09. (By the way, if you have the data for 2008 and are willing to forward it to me, I would be very grateful.)

I am a Uni Tracker primarily because I am searching for proof that wearing one uniform combination somehow leads to an increased winning percentage. But there are other, equally important reasons. I’m searching for patterns behind uniform selection. Are uniforms selected by the day of the week? Do they stick with a combination if they have been wearing it on a winning streak? Do certain pitchers never wear a particular color?

Can certain uniform combinations lead to wins? Skeptics would emphatically deny the possibility, but “I want to believe.” Think about it; if you win a few games wearing one uniform, couldn’t there be something in the subconscious that causes you to associate that uniform with victory and cause you to play differently? When you look at the numbers, some weird stuff emerges. For example, in 2006 the Mets were a .580 road team (47-34), but were only a .333 (6-12) dressed in black. Would they have fared better if they had “ditched the black” on the road? Maybe they thought so as well, since they stopped wearing black on the road after August 17 (ironically, a win). Strangely, black had exact the opposite effect at home, where they were .667 (12-6) dressed in black, while going .617 (50-31) overall. Was there an 18 game home and away quota for black?

Turn the clock to 2007 and the Mets rule the road in black, with a .760 winning percentage (19-6) in black versus .580 (47-34) overall (meaning they were exactly .500 in grey), yet they have a losing record 8-11 (.421) wearing black at home. Unfortunately for Paul, the 2007 Mets were 3-7 wearing pinstripes and blue hats. Since they were 7-10 wearing the snow white/blue combination, it means they stunk in blue (.370). Sorry Paul.

As far as patterns, I like that the Mets have stuck with the pinstripes on Sunday theme so far this season, and I hope that continues. For me, the pinstripes are sacred, having grown up in that era. I actually prefer the white uniforms aesthetically when worn with blue hats. Although I am not as averse to the black uniform as others on the site, I would prefer to reserve that uniform””at least at home””exclusively for Friday night games. I am disappointed that the black New York jerseys have been ditched for the road in favor of the black Mets jerseys. That’s a step back in my opinion. I also live for the day the Mets were blue caps on the road, but until they close the new Yankee Stadium, that is probably just a fantasy.

There is some stuff that bugs me. For example, there was a three game road trip to St. Louis this year. The Mets wore black for all three games. That means they (presumably) packed one set of uniforms. Travel light. I get it. But earlier this month, they travel all the way to the west coast with two sets. I know that the uniforms don’t take up that much room, but it strikes me as stupid to travel with two complete sets of batting helmets. Why lug two sets across the country?

I do my uni tracking via Excel (attached). Here’s a screen print.

Note that I’ve added the “error” column since my last e-mail. I’m hoping to get something out of this, but it’s still too early (and the 5 error game isn’t diluted enough to avoid messing up the numbers).

Prediction: Santana will never wear black.

Since we’re tracking the same team, I figured you already have the totals.

Thanks Gregg! I can see you and I (and maybe Paul) will need to collaborate on another column with all of these data you have. Great stuff!

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Next up is Jason Werth (“werthj”) who joins the ranks as another Milwaukee Brewer uni-tracker.

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Here is a screenshot of my Brewers unikeeping.

First things first, the Brewers retro uniforms are relegated to the first Friday of the month for ’09. Last year they were worn as a ‘Retro Friday’ promotion every home friday. However, the Brewers kept the Home Opener sacred and wore the standard home get-up on Friday April 10th. So the Retro gear has only shown itself once, on Friday May 1.

The most successful of the five Brewer uniforms is the standard home set (white), with a record of 11-6. The away set is 2 games over .500. The alt home is at .500 and the alt away is one game over. One loss in the retro gear.

It appears that uniforms are the decision of the pitcher. Suppan wears standard sets, Gallardo goes alt, Parra likes the alt (but has gone standard in his last two starts), Loope prefers standards, and Bush holds steadfast in wearing the standard sets. Gallardo’s only standard start was on Memorial day, likely mandated by the team with the red hats.

Please keep in mind that sinch I am not confident in using formulas, all data is added by hand and subject to human error!

I post, rarely, as werthj.

Enjoy!

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chicago white sox logo Moving along, we turn to Chicago’s representative, James Huening (“JTH”), who’s been tracking both the Cubbies and the White Sox. Here’s James, who’s breaking them down along team lines:

Cubs: It’s pretty much common knowledge that the Cubs’ starting pitcher decides which jerseys the team will wear for each game. It’s a policy that was in effect when Dusty Baker managed the team and it appears that Lou Piniella has retained the policy, even though the Cubs didn’t wear the blue alternates during his first season as manager.

Carlos Zambrano loves the alts. Every game this season that he has pitched, the Cubs have worn them. On the other hand, Ted Lilly and Ryan Dempster prefer the traditional look. Every game they have pitched, the Cubs have worn their standard pinstriped or gray jerseys. Dempster had the “distinction” of wearing the red stars & stripes cap at home on Memorial Day.

As for the other starters, they’re a little less predictable.

Rich Harden: he’s gone with the alt on the road every time this year. At home, he’s opted for the pinstripes for the three day games he’s pitched (Jackie Robinson Day was one of them) and he’s gone with the alt in the two night games.

Sean Marshall: He’s worn the alt every time except for one home day game, which was his first start of the year.

Randy Wells doesn’t have much of a sample size to go by, but he’s worn each combination one time (pins for a home day game, alt for a home night game and in his two road night games, he went with the alt once and the gray jersey the other time). He’s the only Cubs starter to wear all four standard uniforms. As I mentioned, it’s a small sample size, but it’s possible that he prefers the traditional look for weekend games and the alt for weekdays.

Here’s their record in each combination
Home/Pinstripes: 9-5* (Day: 7-2*, Night: 2-2*)
Home/Alt: 6-4 (Day: 3-2 Night: 3-2)
Road/Gray: 3-9 (Day: 0-2, Night: 3-7)
Road/Alt: 6-5 (Day: 2-2, Night: 4-3)
* Includes losses on Jackie Robinson Day — NNOB, everyone wore #42 and on Memorial Day — red stars & stripes caps.

White Sox: I’ve been trying to make heads or tails of the White Sox’ jersey tendencies. All I know is that the Sox like to wear their black alternates. A lot. In 23 out of 47 games this year, they’ve worn the alt. That’s 10 out of 22 home games and 13 out of 25 road games. In fact, they didn’t even wear their standard “primary” jersey on the road until their eighth road game because the first time they wore their gray jerseys (road game #2), they were the modified Jackie Robinson Day/NNOB/everyone wears #42 versions.

And the number of times the alt was worn could have been as high as 26, except that for three games in Toronto, the Blue Jays decided to wear their black jerseys. This forced the Sox to wear gray. That might have actually been a good move on the Jays’ part, since it guaranteed that at least one team would look good on those days.

Does the starting pitcher choose which jersey to wear? Is it Ozzie Guillen’s decision? Someone else? I dunno, but here’s what the starters have worn so far this year.

Mark Buehrle: The only time this year he’s worn something besides the alt was on opening day when he was in pinstripes.

Gavin Floyd: Pins for every home game so far. On the road, it’s been he alt for his first three starts and the gray jersey for his three most recent.

John Danks: He wore pins for his first three home starts and the alt for his most recent. On the road, he’s worn the alt twice and the gray jersey thrice. He was the starter on Memorial Day; the red stars & stripes caps were worn with the gray jerseys.

Jose Contreras: Pinstripes in his first home start, gray the first time on the road (Jackie Robinson Day) and the alt for his four other starts (2 home, 2 road).

Bartolo Colon: In his four home starts, he’s worn each jersey twice. On the road, it was the alt for the first three and gray for the two most recent.

Clayton Richard: He’s the only Sox starting pitcher who hasn’t worn the alternate jersey in game action. He’s started one home game and three road games in the traditional jerseys.

Here are their records in each combination
Home/Pinstripes: 6-6 (Day: 2-2, Night: 4-4)
Home/Alt: 6-4 (Day: 2-3 Night: 4-1)
Road/Gray: 5-7* (Day: 0-4*, Night: 5-3*)
Road/Alt: 5-8 (Day: 2-1, Night: 3-7)
* Includes a loss on Jackie Robinson Day — NNOB, everyone wore #42 and a win on Memorial Day — red stars & stripes caps.

JTH tracks with (or at least he transmitted to me) Google Spreadsheets. So, I was able to create screen grabs. For the Cubs, we have Cubs-April (1); Cubs-April (2); Cubs-May (1); and Cubs-May (2). For the White Sox, we have White Sox-April (1); White Sox-April (2); White Sox-May (1); and White Sox-May (2). If those are a little hard to follow, I apologize. But trust me, they look really good on the actual spreadsheet (you may need to get an account in order to view that, for whatever reason).

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Moving along, we find our Pittsburgh Pirates tracker Doug Keklak (“Kek”). Here’s what he has:

The Pirates are pretty straight-forward in their uniform trends and combinations. They have the home whites, the home pinstripes, the road grays and a black alternate jersey … a softball jersey if you will Phil!!! This season the pins are worn strictly (so far) for home Sunday games. I’m thinking in past seasons they may have worn these during day games during the week too but I could be wrong. The new black alt with matching cap (both with white outline of the “P”) are new this year and the Pirates have somewhat broke with tradition here. In the past, both with the original black alt with red brim and the God-awful red vests, these were home exclusives. This year, the alts are worn on both the home and road Friday games. The one exception to this was the game on 5/8/09 at Citi Field against the Mets. The Mets opted to wear their black tops so the Pirates went road gray and broke out the black alts the next day, for a Saturday appearance.

Therefore, trending is pretty straightforward for the Bucs. The tracking for the pins is for Sunday games and the tracking for the black alts is mostly for Friday games.

Some data:

***** Through 45 games, the team is pretty even in the road grays, going 5-6 in April and 5-6 through 5-25-09

***** The team has not played well, either at home or on the road, in the new black alternate jersey/cap combo. They are 1-5 overall through 5-25-09, winless in three attempts on the road.

***** The team has played well, 2-0, in games where special caps have been worn as they defeated Houston in the special Pittsburgh Bureau of Police caps on 4-13-09 (honoring the three fallen Pittsburgh police officers killed recently) and they beat the Cubs on 5-25-09 in the red stars and stripes caps.

My method of tracking is simply an excel spreadsheet (here’s another page) that I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention that Ryan “RyCo 40” Connelly designed.

Total stats through 5-25-09:

The Pirates overall record was 21-24. They were 11-10 in April and 10-14 in May (through 5-25). In April, they were 5-2 in the home whites, 5-6 in the road grays, 1-1 in the black alts (1-0 at home; 0-1 on the road) and 0-1 in the home pins.

In May, again through 5-25-09, the team was 4-3 in the home whites, 5-6 in the road grays, 0-4 in the black alts (0-2 at home and 0-2 on the road) and 1-2 in the home pins.

Overall through 5-25, they are 9-5 in the home whites, 10-12 in the road grays, 1-5 in the black alts (1-2 at home, 0-3 on the road and 1-2 in the home pins.

You can refer to me as Doug “Kek” Keklak for the purposes of the story, most folks I’m sure know that “KEK” is just an abbreviated form of my last name so no semi-anoymity there!

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Next up is Michael Jaworski (“mtjaws”), who is a Florida Marlins tracker:

Hello Phil,

Thanks for leading the charge for this report. Just by your emails, I can now see all the behind the scenes work that goes into all of these posts. I know they are detailed, and now I can see it from the writer’s viewpoint. Thanks for the insight.

I’ve included links to example unform pictures. Not sure if you want to use them, or find others, but there are plenty out there and I found these. And here is a picture showing my spreadsheet. The format should look familiar!

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The Marlins have been my favorite team since they first arrived, and I am thankful that I get to watch them nearly every day. Over the years, there have been the highest of highs, but too often, the lows hang around and the team is constantly rebuilding.

As for their uniforms in 2009, the team has three jersey options: Home white, Road grey, and Alternate black, which is worn both at home and on the road. All three are paired with the standard black cap. I quite like the color scheme, especially with black and silver as the main colors, instead of the teal of old. The teal trim is fine, and I like the current designs very much.

Since I joined this project only this week, I had to go back thru MLB’s picture gallery to see each game up until now. In cataloging the uniform usage for this season (47 games plus one 4 inning rainout), I did notice a few interesting things. First of all, there appears to be no set pattern for wearing the black alternate. Since it is worn at home and on the road, it sees lots of work, but most of them have been on the road. 15 of the 17 black jersey appearances were on the road, leading to a 8-7 record. Both home black appearances were losses too. Of those 17 black shirt games, the opponent also wore a dark colored uniform for five games, creating a color-on-color matchup. The Marlins won 3 of those. Starter Ricky Nolasco leads the starters in wearing black the most, six times. But the other seven starting pitchers have also worn black at least once, but not more than three times.

With the black alternates appearing many times on the road, the regular road greys have only appeared nine times, for a 4-5 record. Both the black and grey jerseys have been used in the next game following a loss, which was one of the two black home appearances.

The Marlins record in the white jerseys is 9-12, plus the rainout game which they were winning. In the makeup game, the Fish surprised me by wearing white for both games of the doubleheader. Arizona wore grey and red for it, so I expected the Marlins to wear black for one of the games. But maybe they stayed in white since they won game 1, and didn’t want to change for the immediate game 2. No day/night DHs here!

For Memorial Day, the Marlins wore the special red cap, and won too. Maybe it will work next time also.

Other than that, the Marlins seem to mix up the uniform choices, and haven’t found great success in any of them. The black alternates appear often, noticably more frequent than grey on the road. Who knows how the rest of the season will shape up, but I’ll keep a tally on it. Thanks.

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Feel free to reply if you need something else, and also edit out stuff if I rambled on too long. My name has appeared in the ticker before, so you can use both it and my username in the writeup. Thanks again, Phil.

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Checking in next is Tobin Hodges (“Bizzle”), who is a Texas Rangers trackmaster:

My method is very simple: I watch the games on a pretty regular basis and have attended a couple already. Every morning when I come to work, the first thing I do is update my spreadsheet on the night game before (sad but awesome that UniWatch is first priority over my work). Typically I just use my memory and recollection of the game to fill out the spreadsheet. Here is the pertinent information:

Jersey

Cap

Starting Pitcher

Result

The Rangers have used 6 uni combinations so far this season and, looking at the uniforms, they do not have any more “sensible” possibilities for more (barring throwbacks, specials, etc.) unless they do the unthinkable and wear the Red jersey with the Blue cap and vice versa. It does get pretty hot down here in July and August so I wouldn’t rule out stupidity due to heat exhaustion. The most interesting part of this has been the lack of use for the “traditional” greys and whites. The rangers have worn one of their alternate jerseys for 28 of the 46 games and have only worn the greys 8 out of a possible 23 road games. The blues have been worn 20 TIMES ”¦ again ”¦ 20 TIMES. I like the blues so it doesn’t bother me so much. You can tell that they feel better in those jerseys because they will switch to those jerseys when they lost a bad game or strung together a couple of losses. The other oddity is that when they wear their new Reds (which was being reported they would only do about 15 times) they wear them for a whole series. I have noticed around here in Arlington that they are promoting promotions with these jerseys i.e. Red Out Weekend or Josh Hamilton Red T-Shirt jersey giveaway. Again, I’m kind of ok with this because I think they look sharp. However, this sort of takes the whole “starting pitchers choose the jersey” theory and there has not really been a trend in that regard. All in all, Rangers are playing better than expected and it’s been fun. Only gripe is put the team name back on the Whites a la Nolan Ryan script era.

My nickname on the off chance I do comment is Bizzle. Unfortunately, funds have been a little tight for me and my family right now and I am not a member but it is actually on the list of things to buy in the next month. So you can refer to me as Tobin Hodges = Bizzle if you like. Let me know if you need anything else and thank you for the opportunity to contribute.

You’re awesome at what you do Phil.

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Next up is ChiScott who tracks the ChiSox…

Hi Phil. You can just refer to me by the nickname ChiScott.

I use a basic Excel spreadsheet. I record the game number (with an asterisk if I was in attendance), day, date, home/away, home/away, opponent, win/loss, score, record, division rank, games back, winning/losing pitchers, starting pitcher, and uniform type, which is color coded to best represent the particular uni. I also color-code the rows for wins (green) and losses (red).

For a team that has quite a reputation for experimenting with different uniforms throughout its history (some were…eh…much more successful than others), the modern version of the Sox have been pretty conservative, uni-wise. They’ve worn the same home, road and alternate uniforms since the 1991 season (the exceptions being a vest version of the official home uni which was adopted in the late 90’s and eventually dropped last year, the occasional throwback unis honoring a particular team from the past, and the “Halfway to St. Patricks Day” unis, which are basically the official home white uni but with the color green replacing the black pinstripes, black logo and black cap).

Staff ace Mark Buehrle almost always chooses the black alternate jersey for the team when he is pitching, whether at home or on the road – the main exception being opening day. I’m not aware of any of the other starting pitchers expressing a preference for a particular jersey.

As far as I can tell, the Sox seem to have a rule against wearing the alternate black jerseys for “major” event games. The official home and road uniforms are worn on opening day and during the post season (the home vests made an appearance in the first game of the 2005 ALDS, but throughout the rest of the 2005 and 2008 playoffs and the 2005 World Series, the Sox wore the official home and road unis).

Although, in the past they would wear the black jerseys on Sundays, the current Sox do not wear any particular uniforms for certain days of the week (such as the “Sunday specials”) or for day games in general.

2009 White Sox W-L by Uniform:

Official Home (white pinstriped jersey/white pinstriped pants): 6-6
Alt. Home (black jersey/white pinstriped pants): 6-4
Official Road (gray jersey/gray pants): 4-7
Alt road (black jersey/gray pants): 5-8
Memorial Day (red cap/gray jersey/gray pants): 1-0

[Results are current through Friday, May 29.]

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Another Florida Marlins tracker, Dwayne White checks in with this:

I didn’t know when you wanted this, so I sent it in the attachment as an Excel spreadsheet.

But the totals are as of and including the 5/26 game:

Pinstriped home: 9-12

Black Alt: 8-9

Gray road: 3-5

Red cap w/Gray road: 1-0

I am looking forward to seeing how this plays out. Keep up the great work!

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Another responder is Mike Vamosi (“vmos”), who is a self-admitted, low-tech Kansas City Royals tracker:

Thanks! My way to track is just being a die-hard Royals fan who knows during day games )that start before 3 the team wears their Powder or Royal Blue tops. Everything else they wear white or gray or traditional uniforms. I just use a piece of paper and put a tally mark next to what the outcome was for the game that day. Low tech but effective.

Mike Vamosi or Vmos

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Also checking in is Brandon Davis, who has been keeping dibs on the Oakland A’s:

Keeping track of the Oakland A’s

My method of tracking is simple. After each game, I record the overall win/loss in a text file. I keep track of date, jersey worn, jersey material (although this has been hard to identify so I haven’t broken down W/L that way), the starting pitcher, whether the team won or lost, and whether or not there was anything special about the uniform that day.

The A’s uniform sets are simple: home white uniform with green and gold cap, black home alternate jersey with white pants and black cap, gray road uniform with solid green cap, and green road alternate jersey with gray pants and solid green cap (last season the green alternate became just the road alternate when the new style of black jersey was introduced). Through May 26, the A’s are 11-9 in the home whites, 0-3 in black, 3-6 in gray, 3-7 in green, and 1-0 in the Oakland Oaks throwback. They lost on Jackie Robinson Day and won on Memorial Day.

With the Oakland Oaks throwback, Jackie Robinson Day (42 higher, no nameplates), and the red hats, the A’s have worn seven combinations. They are scheduled for a 1929 throwback game against the White Sox in August so that will be at least 8. If they wear Stars and Stripes caps on July 4 they will be on the road so that would make 9. The A’s also wore the pink ribbons on Mother’s Day and will likely wear blue ribbons on Father’s Day.

The starting pitcher chooses between the regular jersey or the alternate (white or black at home, gray or green on the road) unless there’s a promotion – white on Opening Night, Jackie Robinson Day was at home so they wore white (they wore gray on the road last season), Mother’s Day pink ribbons, etc. Last season this was an issue on June 4 when Justin Duchsherer wanted to wear black but the team made him wear green at home because it was the “Get Your Green On” promotion. The A’s also tend to wear “Sunday Whites” although rookie Trevor Cahill botched that up the first home Sunday of the season – Easter Sunday no less – by wearing black. He was charged with the loss in the 1-0 game. The team has worn white on their other 3 home Sunday games (they’re 2-1 in those games). As for records by pitcher, the A’s have a winning record with just one current starter. It shouldn’t be a surprise to fans of Uni Watch that that pitcher is Josh Outman (2-0), with the A’s going 5-2 in his starts. Outman is 3-1 in the whites, 1-1 in gray, 1-0 in green, and has so far thankfully shunned the black jerseys. In fact, only two pitchers have gone with the black jersey: Cahill twice and Sean Gallagher (sent to AAA after). The rarity of the black jersey is interesting since the A’s chose to add the black helmet and dispense of the all-green road helmet that matches the road cap (instead wearing the gold brimmed helmet on the road).

If I’ve skipped something, let me know. Also, if anybody wants to start up mid-season they can go to the daily MLB wraps and check the photos to make up for lost time.

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Wow. I think our work here is done. We’re going to call it a weekend for the Uni Tracking now. Thanks again to everyone who has participated so far. If I missed you, contact me as I’d love to have your tracking when we do this again, sometime after the All Star break, when the real uniform trends (and surely, there will be some) will emerge. Until “Round Two”, then. How about a nice round of applause for all our Uni Trackers, both yesterday and today! We have some incredibly talented and dedicated folks on this board. Kudos to one and all.

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Guess The Game From The Scoreboard: Today’s scoreboard is pretty easy. There will be no clues. In fact, this shouldn’t take long at all to figure out. I want the date, the location, and the final score of the game in question. And, if you were yesterday’s winner, you’re automatically banned from guessing again, since you’re obviously too good at this game. Plus, I already owe you a Coke.

Ready? Ready. Guess The Game (and remember: date, location & final score).

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The UW Stirrup Club? UW Bobblehead Guru Robert Marshall has a public service announcement (pardon his punctuation, and capitalization, or lackthereof): “the day my coed softball team’s stirrups came in the mail last week, i casually mentioned in the comments, that perhaps we should have a UW stirrup club, and i have gotten more then a few emails on the subject. so let’s try to put something together, we can use the site advertiser, i have used him in the past. we can do this a few ways, but let’s start it like this, i want this stirrupit would be ordered in an adult size with a 5″ loop, but i like mine to show minimum sani. most of the players honoured on this site wear a 7″ or 9″, i think that is too much sani, but next month someone else chooses the stirrup style and size, and if that person wants to get all george hendick, that’s cool with me, i am still in. as far as cost goes, they run $7 plus shipping(min 12), then i have to turn around and ship them to you, i am setting myself up for a headache, but it is all about the ‘rup, so let’s just say they are $10 this month, and go from there. you want the oriole? send me an email to rpmarshallart.com with “stirrups” in the subject line, say you want in on the old school oriole, and suggest a stirrup for next month, we will work out the payment later if enough people are down. there you have it, a UW stirrup club.

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This and That: Game ON … Nice view of the Final’s Patch on Sid the Kid and some Red Wings … Um…ok — seems like that story is missing something … Can anyone make out what those brass knuckles say? … Superman commits regicide … Hey White Sox trackers — be ready to update your “tracking sheets” because, according to this article, the Sox will sport five special uniforms this season in addition to their traditional home and road uniforms … Jeremy has his own cereal? … Well — there is at least one Michigan team that doesn’t wear the ‘flying wing’ design on their helmets — and I like it … Yesterday I told you they would, and today they have: Cavemen unveil new unis (I’d say there’s more cons than pros to them) … If you want to participate in the “Ron Jeremy Lookalike Contest,” please raise your hand … Watching the NHL playoffs this year brought some reminders of when Hartford was a major league sports town — wait, hockey’s a major sport? … It’s aight — you’ll get that ring in 2010 with the Knicks — in the meantime, maybe you and Nike can come up with a new puppet commercialHe’s tall … A Carrollton couple attending a Texas Rangers game for their anniversary was shocked when the Rangers nearly ejected the wife for foul language. It wasn’t what she said. It was a word on what she wore, which she argues was not a cuss word … OK — so the White Sox and the Kansas City Royals did the Negro League throwback thing yesterday, complete with period appropriate helmets and footwear — ok — so they didn’t have batting helmets back the, but c’mon, fellas, ya coulda done better than this (KC was representing the 1924 Kansas City Monarchs and the White Sox wearing the garb of the 1926 Chicago American Giants) … and I’m NO fan of pinstripes on roadies, but this just shows how good a team could look if they wanted to go with a solid dark uniform … You have Cleveland Browns questions, right? Well, if you did, here’s some answers … And, making sure there was at least one softball game on the docket this Saturday, the Braves and D-Bags entertained the picnickers … They gotta wear red socks, right? I mean they’re called the Red Sox, right? Man that looks like shit … and continuing the tradition of not quite winning the big one, the Hawks do Chi Town proud.

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And because I’m feeling saucy, I’m giving you a bonus Guess The Game From The Scoreboard. This one is a bit tougher than the one above. Let’s see how you do with this one. Ready? Ready: Guess The Game (date, location and final score, please).

Have a great Sunday folks.

 
  
 
Comments (110)

    Agreed with how good solid dark uniforms top to bottom can look in baseball. I’m surprised more teams don’t try it, especially since it seems common in football.

    The Cavemen uniforms look nice.

    Phil was right, the first guess the scoreboard was easy. July 1, 1998. Montreal vs Boston, Fenway Park. Boston 6, Montreal 1.

    Here’s the link

    [quote comment=”331858″]Phil was right, the first guess the scoreboard was easy. July 1, 1998. Montreal vs Boston, Fenway Park. Boston 6, Montreal 1.

    Here’s the link[/quote]

    I concur. And here is the box score for that Mets game against Toronto.

    link

    Phil,

    I hate to break it to you, but the Michigan catcher DOES wear the wings on her hockey-type mask.

    You can’t get away from them…

    It’s just the “winged helmet,” not the “flying winged helmet.” And this UM alum loves its presence throughout all Wolverines sports. Although the block M does look good, too.

    I believe ChiScott is pretty accurate with most of his White Sox thoughts about the Sox wearing standard jerseys for special dates. He did mention the sleeveless jerseys in game 1 of the 2005 ALDS, but I believe they also wore them for game 2 of that series. I also believe the Sox wore their black alternate for game 1 of the 2008 ALDS. I was caught off guard by them doing that, so that’s why I remember it.

    As far as the Cubs UniTracking, couldn’t we just track the starting pitcher’s record? Seems like it would be awfully close…That would actually be an interesting correlation…

    Paul,

    Reading your ESPN “Fantasy” column, I noticed your grayed-out the controversial “Atlanta Slaves” team name from Bob Ciani’s made-up league.
    link

    I’m a little disappointed by this. It’s one thing if you grayed-out a curse word that wasn’t allowed by ESPN. But this was a case of something that many would consider racist (even though no curse words were used).

    There are many ways you could have handled it: (1) leave it as is; (2) gray-out the name; (3) don’t use that pic; or (4) don’t use Bob’s league at all. I would’ve gone with (3) or even (4) if I wanted to take a stand against someone who admitted the name came from their juvenile mind. I think (2) — which is what you used — is the worst option. For the casual reader, it’s as if the name never existed. For the careful reader who notices the blur, it looks as though it was grayed out because it contained a curse word.

    [quote]A Carrollton couple attending a Texas Rangers game for their anniversary was shocked when the Rangers nearly ejected the wife for foul language. It wasn’t what she said. It was a word on what she wore, which she argues was not a cuss word[/quote]
    Maybe its me, but I don’t see where the link relates to the item…

    My guess for the bottom…

    July 23, 1965, Shea Stadium. Final: Mets 3 Phillies 2 in 10

    Attendance: 38,533

    [quote comment=”331867″][quote]A Carrollton couple attending a Texas Rangers game for their anniversary was shocked when the Rangers nearly ejected the wife for foul language. It wasn’t what she said. It was a word on what she wore, which she argues was not a cuss word[/quote]
    Maybe its me, but I don’t see where the link relates to the item…[/quote]

    She had a Yankees SUCK shirt. They made her turn it inside out. The link is incorrect….

    The second scoreboard is 07-23-1965 Mets ultimately won 3-2 in 10 and Jack Fisher went the distance for the win!

    [quote comment=”331862″]I believe ChiScott is pretty accurate with most of his White Sox thoughts about the Sox wearing standard jerseys for special dates. He did mention the sleeveless jerseys in game 1 of the 2005 ALDS, but I believe they also wore them for game 2 of that series. I also believe the Sox wore their black alternate for game 1 of the 2008 ALDS. I was caught off guard by them doing that, so that’s why I remember it.[/quote]
    link about game 1 of the ALDS last year.

    As for 2005, you’re also right about them wearing the sleeveless in game 2 of the ALDS. They wore them for game 1 of the ALCS as well, which they lost. They switched to the standard jerseys for game 2 and stuck with them for the World Series.

    Hmmm…beat me to it.
    As to how I did it. I looked thru baseball almanac for a year that the Mets has a catcher wearing number 5 and a pitcher wearing number 22. Once I found that I confirmed the other uniform numbers on the Mets. Then, since it said Old Timers Day was coming up, I looked for weekend games in July and August on their box score link. Voila.

    [quote comment=”331873″]Hmmm…beat me to it.
    As to how I did it. I looked thru baseball almanac for a year that the Mets has a catcher wearing number 5 and a pitcher wearing number 22. Once I found that I confirmed the other uniform numbers on the Mets. Then, since it said Old Timers Day was coming up, I looked for weekend games in July and August on their box score link. Voila.[/quote]

    I decided to start at 1965, since the Braves were still in Milwaukee, and the A’s in KC. Baseball-reference.com had the ’65 schedule, and the date I looked at first was the first one that was a possible score. Then I looked at the other scores of that day, and compared to the pic. And done.

    link

    Pretty sure the pinstriped Pirate jerseys are a Sunday home game exclusive (but like you I could be wrong). I don’t recall ever seeing them wear them on another day of the week.

    [quote comment=”331871″]She was wearing a YANKEES SUCK shirt. Article here:
    link

    Article with picture here:
    link
    If nothing else, she needs to find a more creative shirt. Weak effort.

    Also, has anyone noticed that people tend to be anti yankees because it was cool to be a yankees fan, and now the cool thing is to hate on then. By not being conformist, they’re being conformist. And they don’t have a clue.

    Bo Sox and mets fans excluded of course. That’s allowed in the course of rooting for your team.

    [quote comment=”331872″][quote comment=”331862″]I believe ChiScott is pretty accurate with most of his White Sox thoughts about the Sox wearing standard jerseys for special dates. He did mention the sleeveless jerseys in game 1 of the 2005 ALDS, but I believe they also wore them for game 2 of that series. I also believe the Sox wore their black alternate for game 1 of the 2008 ALDS. I was caught off guard by them doing that, so that’s why I remember it.[/quote]
    link about game 1 of the ALDS last year.

    As for 2005, you’re also right about them wearing the sleeveless in game 2 of the ALDS. They wore them for game 1 of the ALCS as well, which they lost. They switched to the standard jerseys for game 2 and stuck with them for the World Series.[/quote]

    I’ve checked the link: The Sox wore the vests for the 2 home games of the ALDS and the first game of the ALCS, regular home uniforms afterwards. This went along with what was pretty standard for the Sox in 2005 (and a lot of seasons, although they haven’t done it as much this season) – they wore the uniform until they lost in it. I just checked, and they also wore them for the last three regular season home games, all wins. The 4th to last regular season home game? A loss, in black tops. I suspect not wearing the black in the playoffs wasn’t any sort of policy (and I’ve seen pictures/video of lockers with black uniforms with World Series patches, so they were an option), but just because they only lost the one time (and never on the road).

    As for the “5 special uniforms”, I posted this late yesterday, but I’m fairly sure 3 of them are the negro league uni from yesterday, something special for the Civil Rights game, and green pinstripes for Halfway to St. Patrick’s Day. They’ll probably do Camouflage again, although I don’t know where since last year it was on the 4th of July and they’re on the road this year. Somebody suggested the 5th might be a 59 throwback, which would be great (especially since they last wore those in 2005, and we saw how that worked), but I’d think they’d promote that, and they haven’t yet. Makes me think it might be another road thing (or that he’s counting Jackie Robinson Day or something)

    To: R. Nadal
    Fr: =bg=
    Re: Pink polo
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    I told you to stay away from the pink polo.
    =bg=

    Since stirrups have fallen out of vogue, I’m surprised we haven’t seen this link look more often. I think it looks better than the solid color, i.e. link

    That said, I’m still in the stirrup camp.s:

    This is heavenly: link
    This is OK: link
    This is poetry: link
    As is this: link

    link

    Recognize the player?

    Here he is in his swanky link (link)

    This link that would put the fear of God into most minor league managers

    link once gave him a standing ovation for catching a hot dog wrapper on the fly

    [quote comment=”331884″]link

    Recognize the player?

    Here he is in his swanky link (link)

    This link that would put the fear of God into most minor league managers

    link once gave him a standing ovation for catching a hot dog wrapper on the fly[/quote]
    Did’t recognize him, but based on stories I heard, Dick “Dr. Strangeglove” Stuart?

    [quote comment=”331885″][quote comment=”331884″]link

    Recognize the player?

    Here he is in his swanky link (link)

    This link that would put the fear of God into most minor league managers

    link once gave him a standing ovation for catching a hot dog wrapper on the fly[/quote]
    Did’t recognize him, but based on stories I heard, Dick “Dr. Strangeglove” Stuart?[/quote]

    Correct!

    Stuart hit 66 homers for the Chiefs in 1956.

    He was also on deck when Mazeroski hit the game winning homerun in the ninth inning of game seven in 1960.

    He also played a season for the Taiyo Whales.

    good work mr. engle

    he also had a vanity tag that simply read: “E3”

    (at least the humor of his fielding ability, or lackthereof, wasn’t lost on him)

    [quote comment=”331884″]link

    This link that would put the fear of God into most minor league managers[/quote]

    Wow, 1st & 2nd wearing helmets. How bout the all-helmet defensive team:
    Catcher — Johnny Bench (obviously many possibilities, I start my team with JB)
    First — Richie (Dick) Allen
    Second — Horace Clarke
    Right — Reggie Jackson (6th game, 1977 WS)
    Any other suggestions?

    oh…and in honor of today’s and yesterday’s topic…with the black/blue caps and sunday pins, the mets have now worn their NINTH different uniform combination of the season today

    *sighs* gives “we’re number 1” a whole new meaning

    Pirates announcers Tim Neverette and Bob Walk discussing pillbox hats, throwback blue uniforms and Stargell Stars on the broadcast today. Then they show Pirates’ third base Coach Tony Beasley wears a link on the back of his batting helmet.

    Guys, no disrespect to you, and Phil, you seem like a really nice person(and far superior in posting to the previous weekend guy), but you uni-tracker guys officially have too much time on your hands. This uni-tracking business is a whole other level of obsession that can’t be healthy.

    next time you think it would be a good idea to make a spreadsheet tracking a team’s wins and losses according to what uni they wear, take a deep breath, step away from your computer/notepad, and consider what else you could be doing instead to enrich your lives or the life of someone else. Some obvious suggestions would be: read a book, call your mom, volunteer, take a walk and enjoy the lovely summer weather, etc.

    I realize no one likes to be lectured, and what I am saying could be said about uni watch in general, but I just feel the uni-trackers have crossed a threshold of minutiae that was previously un-crossed. To say this uni-tracking stuff is unimportant would be the understatement of the decade.

    Here’s hoping this is the last we see/hear of this stuff.

    [quote comment=”331892″]Guys, no disrespect to you, and Phil, you seem like a really nice person(and far superior in posting to the previous weekend guy), but you uni-tracker guys officially have too much time on your hands. This uni-tracking business is a whole other level of obsession that can’t be healthy.

    next time you think it would be a good idea to make a spreadsheet tracking a team’s wins and losses according to what uni they wear, take a deep breath, step away from your computer/notepad, and consider what else you could be doing instead to enrich your lives or the life of someone else. Some obvious suggestions would be: read a book, call your mom, volunteer, take a walk and enjoy the lovely summer weather, etc.

    I realize no one likes to be lectured, and what I am saying could be said about uni watch in general, but I just feel the uni-trackers have crossed a threshold of minutiae that was previously un-crossed. To say this uni-tracking stuff is unimportant would be the understatement of the decade.

    Here’s hoping this is the last we see/hear of this stuff.[/quote]

    I just love the weekends. When a young person can jump down off that city sanitation vehicle they’ve been on all week and express his/her frustration at the world by tearing up the efforts of others. Good job!!!

    [quote comment=”331892″]Guys, no disrespect to you, and Phil, you seem like a really nice person(and far superior in posting to the previous weekend guy), but you uni-tracker guys officially have too much time on your hands. This uni-tracking business is a whole other level of obsession that can’t be healthy.

    next time you think it would be a good idea to make a spreadsheet tracking a team’s wins and losses according to what uni they wear, take a deep breath, step away from your computer/notepad, and consider what else you could be doing instead to enrich your lives or the life of someone else. Some obvious suggestions would be: read a book, call your mom, volunteer, take a walk and enjoy the lovely summer weather, etc.

    I realize no one likes to be lectured, and what I am saying could be said about uni watch in general, but I just feel the uni-trackers have crossed a threshold of minutiae that was previously un-crossed. To say this uni-tracking stuff is unimportant would be the understatement of the decade.

    Here’s hoping this is the last we see/hear of this stuff.[/quote]

    Speaking of people with too much time on their hands…
    I can’t think of a single reason why you should have an opinion on how complete strangers spend their free time. Since it takes probably about maybe one minute a day to update their tracker, I don’t see why anyone couldn’t do that as well as read a book, call your mom, volunteer, take a walk and enjoy the lovely summer weather, etc. if they chose to.

    And speaking of people making choices… I prefer their choice of tracking uniforms more than your choice of being a douche.

    Lee

    Does everyone remember Paul’s April Fools joke about Seahawks green uniforms? There is an interesting video up on a sports gaming website where Mark Sanchez is playing as himself in “Madden 10” against the Seahawks, who are wearing the exact “fakes” Paul made up! Not sure if that mean’s EA (the game’s developer) is a)joking b)bought the uniwatch joke c)screwed up, or d)that Seattle is actually gonna wear those. Could just be nothing but I thought it was interesting.

    Here is a link to the video: link

    The uniforms appear about 20 seconds in

    [quote comment=”331894″][quote comment=”331892″]

    And speaking of people making choices… I prefer their choice of tracking uniforms more than your choice of being a douche.

    Lee[/quote]

    Lee, if somebody like you thinks I am a douche, then I must be doing something right. ‘sides, I’d rather be considered a douche by your ilk than be a lemming as you are. Hope you can get laid in this millennium.

    [quote comment=”331891″]Pirates announcers Tim Neverette and Bob Walk discussing pillbox hats, throwback blue uniforms and Stargell Stars on the broadcast today. Then they show Pirates’ third base Coach Tony Beasley wears a link on the back of his batting helmet.[/quote]

    Bring back the Stargell stars, but NOT the pillbox hats. Please.

    [quote comment=”331892″]I just feel the uni-trackers have crossed a threshold of minutiae that was previously un-crossed. To say this uni-tracking stuff is unimportant would be the understatement of the decade.[/quote]
    So, since I’m tracking two teams, I’m like Neil Armstong and Buzz Aldrin (and let’s not forget Michael Collins — without him, those guys are probably also the last guys to walk on the moon) all wrapped up into one.

    Seriously, wanna know how much time it takes me to track uniform combinations for TWO TEAMS each day? About a minute.

    [quote comment=”331857″]Agreed with how good solid dark uniforms top to bottom can look in baseball. I’m surprised more teams don’t try it, especially since it seems common in football.

    The Cavemen uniforms look nice.[/quote]

    Agreed with both. At least no baseball team does the other football thing – white tops and dark bottoms. As for the Cavemen, I’m just glad they didn’t slap a picture of the Geico guy on the jersey…

    [quote comment=”331861″]It’s just the “winged helmet,” not the “flying winged helmet.” And this UM alum loves its presence throughout all Wolverines sports. Although the block M does look good, too.[/quote]

    I generally disdain goofy hairstyles, but I’d love to see the UM mens basketball team come out next season with “winged helmet” haircuts.

    [quote comment=”331901″]link[/quote]

    I didn’t come here looking for a fight. Just trying to give some perspective in as polite a way I know how. It’s kind of ridiculous though that no one can ever make a comment critical of the content without the lemmings insulting you. Lee’s retort to me was perfectly fine up until the last sentence.

    [quote comment=”331889″][quote comment=”331884″]link

    This link that would put the fear of God into most minor league managers[/quote]

    Wow, 1st & 2nd wearing helmets. How bout the all-helmet defensive team:
    Catcher — Johnny Bench (obviously many possibilities, I start my team with JB)
    First — Richie (Dick) Allen
    Second — Horace Clarke
    Right — Reggie Jackson (6th game, 1977 WS)
    Any other suggestions?[/quote]
    link
    If this guy is to be believed, then in “Honorable Mentions,” Fred Lynn or Dwight Evans can have spots in the outfield.

    [quote comment=”331871″]She was wearing a YANKEES SUCK shirt. Article here:
    link

    Article with picture here:
    link
    They would have flipped if they saw the shirts people were wearing last year around here during the ALCS. “Buck Foston.”

    [quote comment=”331900″][quote comment=”331861″]It’s just the “winged helmet,” not the “flying winged helmet.” And this UM alum loves its presence throughout all Wolverines sports. Although the block M does look good, too.[/quote]

    I generally disdain goofy hairstyles, but I’d love to see the UM mens basketball team come out next season with “winged helmet” haircuts.[/quote]
    So… something like link?

    [quote comment=”331904″][quote comment=”331901″]link[/quote]
    A Hawk and a Wing squaring off at Chicago Stadium?[/quote]

    Not just any Hawk. It’s the link.

    I think he’s fighting Norman Ullman. Here’s link

    [quote comment=”331908″][quote comment=”331904″][quote comment=”331901″]link[/quote]
    A Hawk and a Wing squaring off at Chicago Stadium?[/quote]

    Not just any Hawk. It’s the link.

    I think he’s fighting Norman Ullman. Here’s link[/quote]

    Ooops. Maybe I meant Gary Bergman? Ullman was 16.

    link

    [quote comment=”331909″][quote comment=”331908″][quote comment=”331904″][quote comment=”331901″]link[/quote]
    A Hawk and a Wing squaring off at Chicago Stadium?[/quote]

    Not just any Hawk. It’s the link.

    I think he’s fighting Norman Ullman. Here’s link[/quote]

    Ooops. Maybe I meant Gary Bergman? Ullman was 16.

    link[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought it might be Bobby Hull, but I couldn’t really tell from that angle. As for the Red Wing: link, maybe?

    [quote comment=”331904″][quote comment=”331901″]link[/quote]
    A Hawk and a Wing squaring off at Chicago Stadium?[/quote]
    For anyone with a higher quality monitor: what’s on the banner under the organist?

    Bobby must have had the weave tightened that day… :-) On a more serious note, you have to wonder if he had finished with one fight and went on to another-how’d he lose the jersey while the other player looks like he’s just starting?

    [quote comment=”331892″]Guys, no disrespect to you, and Phil, you seem like a really nice person(and far superior in posting to the previous weekend guy), but you uni-tracker guys officially have too much time on your hands.[/quote]

    dee,

    thanks (i think) for the kind words…although im not sure there was any need for comparisons to my predecessor…

    [quote]This uni-tracking business is a whole other level of obsession that can’t be healthy.[/quote]

    no…drinking isn’t healthy, smoking isn’t healthy, beheading small barnyard animals isn’t healthy…

    [quote]next time you think it would be a good idea to make a spreadsheet tracking a team’s wins and losses according to what uni they wear, take a deep breath, step away from your computer/notepad, and consider what else you could be doing instead to enrich your lives or the life of someone else. Some obvious suggestions would be: read a book, call your mom, volunteer, take a walk and enjoy the lovely summer weather, etc.[/quote]

    shockingly, after i’ve spent 37.2 seconds updating my daily tracking sheet, i find the time for other things…if you want to say i spend too much time on UW or UW-related things, you’d have an excellent point…however, uni-tracking takes as much out of my day as say, hitting the snooze button one less time

    [quote]I realize no one likes to be lectured, and what I am saying could be said about uni watch in general, but I just feel the uni-trackers have crossed a threshold of minutiae that was previously un-crossed. To say this uni-tracking stuff is unimportant would be the understatement of the decade.[/quote]

    maybe so…others might say doing a crossword or chatting with your mom or taking a long walk are unimportant as well…i wouldn’t be one to say that, but that’s all in the perspective, innit? come to think of it, i enjoy chatting with your mom

    [quote]Here’s hoping this is the last we see/hear of this stuff.[/quote]

    well, im sorry to disappoint you…feel free to skip the weekends if you’d like…you’ll be none the wiser

    [quote comment=”331911″]Yeah, I thought it might be Bobby Hull, but I couldn’t really tell from that angle.[/quote]As for me personally, I’ve always considered it a big hint when a Blackhawks player is wearing #9 that it’s probably Bobby.

    :-))))

    [quote comment=”331914″][quote comment=”331911″]Yeah, I thought it might be Bobby Hull, but I couldn’t really tell from that angle.[/quote]As for me personally, I’ve always considered it a big hint when a Blackhawks player is wearing #9 that it’s probably Bobby.

    :-))))[/quote]
    Touché, I guess. Apparently your monitor is better than mine today, because I can’t see a number anywhere on link.

    [quote comment=”331915″][quote comment=”331914″][quote comment=”331911″]Yeah, I thought it might be Bobby Hull, but I couldn’t really tell from that angle.[/quote]As for me personally, I’ve always considered it a big hint when a Blackhawks player is wearing #9 that it’s probably Bobby.

    :-))))[/quote]
    Touché, I guess. Apparently your monitor is better than mine today, because I can’t see a number anywhere on link.[/quote]
    So when did white at home start in the NHL?
    I like that way better. It looks better on TV. Especially since there’s always a giant logo at center ice. If you have a NY Rangers shield in the middle of MSG, the Rangers don’t need to wear blue to be identified as the Rangers.

    [quote comment=”331915″]
    Touché, I guess. Apparently your monitor is better than mine today, because I can’t see a number anywhere on link.[/quote]

    Okay: I was going by the last picture posted in that comment: Hull talking with a NY Ranger. Right after that is when I saw your comment.

    I do have to admit that given the blond hair and the fiesty-ness, IMHO Hull is a good guess for the Wings pictures even without identifying marks. Some people say that Bobby had that Napolean complex.

    Pretty sure the pinstriped Pirate jerseys are a Sunday home game exclusive (but like you I could be wrong). I don’t recall ever seeing them wear them on another day of the week.

    They’ve worn them a lot in second games of doubleheaders, regardless of day of the week.

    Just to be perfectly clear JTH, I was looking at comment # 54 old friend.

    Not sure how Hull lost his jersey. The photos aren’t in sequence and they’re a mixture. I thought it started as a fight along the boards then realized that was from a Canadiens game.

    One last one. link?

    [quote comment=”331920″]One last one. link?[/quote]
    Could be Gordie, wouldn’t be unusual for those two to be shadowing each other.

    BTW, some recent words from Gordie:

    link

    [quote comment=”331890″]oh…and in honor of today’s and yesterday’s topic…with the black/blue caps and sunday pins, the mets have now worn their NINTH different uniform combination of the season today

    *sighs* gives “we’re number 1” a whole new meaning[/quote]

    boooo, the Marlins got robbed on two “traps”, and now I have to update my spreadsheet with a black uniformed Loss. Thanks for letting be a part of today’s story.

    John Maine reportedly vomited during today’s game (stomach virus). What other instances can you think of in which ballplayers have lost their lunch during a game? I can think of two: (1) Tom Gordon of the Yanks, during the 2004 ALCS, and (2) Ray Oyler of the Pilots, after taking a bullpen pitch in the cup (as recounted in Ball Four). Anyone else?

    [quote comment=”331925″]John Maine reportedly vomited during today’s game (stomach virus). What other instances can you think of in which ballplayers have lost their lunch during a game? I can think of two: (1) Tom Gordon of the Yanks, during the 2004 ALCS, and (2) Ray Oyler of the Pilots, after taking a bullpen pitch in the cup (as recounted in Ball Four). Anyone else?[/quote]

    Brad Penny did the same thing during his win on May 25th against the Twins:
    link

    [quote comment=”331906″][quote comment=”331900″][quote comment=”331861″]It’s just the “winged helmet,” not the “flying winged helmet.” And this UM alum loves its presence throughout all Wolverines sports. Although the block M does look good, too.[/quote]

    I generally disdain goofy hairstyles, but I’d love to see the UM mens basketball team come out next season with “winged helmet” haircuts.[/quote]
    So… something like link?[/quote]

    Not quite…I meant having the guys buzz their hair but leaving the shape of the UM helmet design on their heads. Tyler had more of a bowl cut than a helmet cut.

    [quote comment=”331925″]John Maine reportedly vomited during today’s game (stomach virus). What other instances can you think of in which ballplayers have lost their lunch during a game? I can think of two: (1) Tom Gordon of the Yanks, during the 2004 ALCS, and (2) Ray Oyler of the Pilots, after taking a bullpen pitch in the cup (as recounted in Ball Four). Anyone else?[/quote]
    Not baseball, but Donovan McNabb tossed it during a game back in 2006.

    link

    [quote comment=”331897″][quote comment=”331891″]Pirates announcers Tim Neverette and Bob Walk discussing pillbox hats, throwback blue uniforms and Stargell Stars on the broadcast today. Then they show Pirates’ third base Coach Tony Beasley wears a link on the back of his batting helmet.[/quote]

    Bring back the Stargell stars, but NOT the pillbox hats. Please.[/quote]

    Amen Brother, Amen!

    [quote]What other instances can you think of in which ballplayers have lost their lunch during a game? I can think of two: (1) Tom Gordon of the Yanks, during the 2004 ALCS[/quote]

    the other 24 followed shortly thereafter

    [quote comment=”331928″][quote comment=”331925″]John Maine reportedly vomited during today’s game (stomach virus). What other instances can you think of in which ballplayers have lost their lunch during a game? I can think of two: (1) Tom Gordon of the Yanks, during the 2004 ALCS, and (2) Ray Oyler of the Pilots, after taking a bullpen pitch in the cup (as recounted in Ball Four). Anyone else?[/quote]
    Not baseball, but Donovan McNabb tossed it during a game back in 2006.

    link
    No discussion of sports vomit is complete without mentioning Glenn Hall. (Yes, pre-game, but still, it’s significant.)

    [quote comment=”331925″]John Maine reportedly vomited during today’s game (stomach virus). What other instances can you think of in which ballplayers have lost their lunch during a game? I can think of two: (1) Tom Gordon of the Yanks, during the 2004 ALCS, and (2) Ray Oyler of the Pilots, after taking a bullpen pitch in the cup (as recounted in Ball Four). Anyone else?[/quote]
    The left-fielder on my little team when I was nine. I know, not exactly what you were looking for but funny story nonetheless.

    The league I played in had games for ages 6-9 at 9AM and 11AM, girls softball at 1 and 3 and ages 10-12 at 5 and 7. For reasons unknown, the concession stand was open at 9AM with the full menu being served.

    This kid would be eating wing dings, nachos and hot dogs in the dugout at 9AM! My father was one of our coaches. He would get on this kid nonstop “you’re gonna get sick”.

    Needless to say, Dad wasn’t surprised when one morning our left fielder was spewing!

    So i was out doing yardwork most of the day yesterday. While in for a brake at one point, I clicked on MLBNet and saw the 1980 NLCS that folks were talking about in yesterday’s comments.

    On the crawl, I saw the Cardinals placed Khalil Greene on the DL for anxiety. Is that like panic attacks? I’ve never seen anyone placed on the DL for that before.

    [quote comment=”331934″]So i was out doing yardwork most of the day yesterday. While in for a brake at one point, I clicked on MLBNet and saw the 1980 NLCS that folks were talking about in yesterday’s comments.

    On the crawl, I saw the Cardinals placed Khalil Greene on the DL for anxiety. Is that like panic attacks? I’ve never seen anyone placed on the DL for that before.[/quote]

    Pete Harnisch of the Mets was DL’d for depression in 1997ish. Another Mets pitcher, Bill Pulsipher, said he took Prozac for anxiety and depression while in the minors. And just this sprng, the Tigers supposedly diagnosed Dontrelle Willis with an anxiety disorder, although everyone thought that smelled funny, because they claimed to have made the diagnosis via a blood test. In fact, there’s no such thing as a blood test for depression or anxiety.

    [quote comment=”331908″][quote comment=”331904″][quote comment=”331901″]link[/quote]
    A Hawk and a Wing squaring off at Chicago Stadium?[/quote]

    Not just any Hawk. It’s the link.

    I think he’s fighting Norman Ullman. Here’s link[/quote]

    I beg to differ….

    I think those are two different fights.

    If you look closely at the first picture, The Golden Jet is wearing suspenders with his pants and in the second, he is not and they are nowhere to be seen..

    I like the Cavemen unis too!

    I DON’T like ANY pinstripes on hats.

    As for vulgar T-shirts, I saw one for sale outside Yankee Stadium last year that said
    “BAHSTON SAWKS CACK”
    I thought it was funny.

    [quote comment=”331892″]Guys, no disrespect to you, and Phil, you seem like a really nice person(and far superior in posting to the previous weekend guy), but you uni-tracker guys officially have too much time on your hands. This uni-tracking business is a whole other level of obsession that can’t be healthy.

    next time you think it would be a good idea to make a spreadsheet tracking a team’s wins and losses according to what uni they wear, take a deep breath, step away from your computer/notepad, and consider what else you could be doing instead to enrich your lives or the life of someone else. Some obvious suggestions would be: read a book, call your mom, volunteer, take a walk and enjoy the lovely summer weather, etc.

    I realize no one likes to be lectured, and what I am saying could be said about uni watch in general, but I just feel the uni-trackers have crossed a threshold of minutiae that was previously un-crossed. To say this uni-tracking stuff is unimportant would be the understatement of the decade.

    Here’s hoping this is the last we see/hear of this stuff.[/quote]
    I probably shouldn’t even bother to respond but I’m going to anyway.

    I read a book a week.

    Between phone calls, emails and text messages I talk to my mom daily.

    I volunteer (Special Olympics).

    I was out cutting grass, pulling weeds and doing other assorted yardwork for about ten hours yesterday.

    I fairly certain that each and every one of those activities took MORE time than I’ve spent in total on tracking my team’s uniofrm choices.

    But tell you what Dee, I’ll use the stopwatch on my iPod to track how long it takes me tomorrow, and mind you I’ll be catching up for the entire weekend so it’ll be three days’ games , not just one.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, comments that begin with “no disrespect” usually do just that. Dee, you sort of backpedal a few comments later. You say “It’s kind of ridiculous though that no one can ever make a comment critical of the content without the lemmings insulting you.” First of all, you threw out the first insult in a post that basically told all of us tracking unis to get a life.

    Secondly, your comment wasn’t critical of content. A comment critical of content iss something like “your weekend posts are too long”, “you should talk more about [enter sport here]”, “you talk too much about [enter sport here], etc. I’m sure Paul and Phil could find several others in their inboxes. A little different than your original comment which is an insult.

    I’ll get that time for you tomorrow, but being that you’re probably a troll, I doubt we hear from you again (you probably use a fake email too).

    [quote comment=”331892″]Guys, no disrespect to you, and Phil, …, but you uni-tracker guys officially have too much time on your hands. This uni-tracking business is a whole other level of obsession that can’t be healthy.[/quote]

    If is no disrespect, then why did you bring it up?
    Besides, who are you to tell me how to spend my time in the first place?

    I am retired and I have earned the right to spend my time any way I see fit…And I’m only 43 years old.

    [quote]…and consider what else you could be doing instead to enrich your lives or the life of someone else. Some obvious suggestions would be:[/quote]

    [quote] read a book,[/quote]
    Just finished James Ellroy’s American Tabloid…Check

    [quote] call your mom,[/quote]
    I did. She is fine, btw…Thanks for asking…Check

    [quote]volunteer,[/quote]
    I do. I volunteer for needy children and families making sure they have hot meals…Check

    [quote]take a walk and enjoy the lovely summer weather, etc.[/quote]
    I took my son fishing today at the pier in the wonderful south Florida sunshine…Check

    Does that count?

    [quote]I realize no one likes to be lectured, and what I am saying could be said about uni watch in general, but I just feel the uni-trackers have crossed a threshold of minutiae that was previously un-crossed. To say this uni-tracking stuff is unimportant would be the understatement of the decade.[/quote]

    I feel much the same way about the DIY crowd, but you don’t hear me disparaging them, do you?

    [quote]Here’s hoping this is the last we see/hear of this stuff.[/quote]

    Nope. It is going to continue until the season is over.

    BTW…what are you doing inside on a May, Sunday afternoon?

    [quote]I realize no one likes to be lectured, and what I am saying could be said about uni watch in general, but I just feel the uni-trackers have crossed a threshold of minutiae that was previously un-crossed. To say this uni-tracking stuff is unimportant would be the understatement of the decade.[/quote]

    I feel much the same way about the DIY crowd, but you don’t hear me disparaging them, do you?

    You are absolutely right about the DIY’s. It is unimportant. HOWEVER, I am a DIY enthuiast. I thoroughly enjoy doing my projects. It is about as unimportant as my golf score this morning (82). My kids like them and they give me a fun release from my BUSY daily job of running my my business. I believe Dwayne understands these things and refrains from commenting. Thanks Dwayne. Goodbye, Dee.

    [quote comment=”331935″][quote comment=”331934″]So i was out doing yardwork most of the day yesterday. While in for a brake at one point, I clicked on MLBNet and saw the 1980 NLCS that folks were talking about in yesterday’s comments.

    On the crawl, I saw the Cardinals placed Khalil Greene on the DL for anxiety. Is that like panic attacks? I’ve never seen anyone placed on the DL for that before.[/quote]

    Pete Harnisch of the Mets was DL’d for depression in 1997ish. Another Mets pitcher, Bill Pulsipher, said he took Prozac for anxiety and depression while in the minors. And just this sprng, the Tigers supposedly diagnosed Dontrelle Willis with an anxiety disorder, although everyone thought that smelled funny, because they claimed to have made the diagnosis via a blood test. In fact, there’s no such thing as a blood test for depression or anxiety.[/quote]

    True…
    but there are blood tests for the treating pharmaceuticals (to ensure proper efficacy and patient safety) and that could have been released to a source that he didn’t plan on the results being released…more common than you would want to believe.

    [quote comment=”331927″][quote comment=”331906″][quote comment=”331900″][quote comment=”331861″]It’s just the “winged helmet,” not the “flying winged helmet.” And this UM alum loves its presence throughout all Wolverines sports. Although the block M does look good, too.[/quote]

    I generally disdain goofy hairstyles, but I’d love to see the UM mens basketball team come out next season with “winged helmet” haircuts.[/quote]
    So… something like link?[/quote]

    Not quite…I meant having the guys buzz their hair but leaving the shape of the UM helmet design on their heads. Tyler had more of a bowl cut than a helmet cut.[/quote]

    That has happened. Brent Petway did it.

    link

    link

    I thought the initial DIY stuff was cool. I’m probably going to make an old school Blackhawks one over the summer. I don’t really think much of the childhood drawings (then again, I did them when I was young… stupid divorce screwed that up for me). The uniform tracking is great, and I’d have done the Mariners, but I have this thing called “college” that eats my time and makes me unable to check this blog daily. I missed the call to arms on this one. Which reminds me: Phil, sign me up for the M’s in 2010, along with the Oregon Ducks football and basketball teams.

    Anyways, what my rambling post is getting to is this:

    It’s Paul’s site, Phil is Paul’s employee, and they can post whatever the hell they want to here. You have no right to complain, because it’s not yours. If you owned the place, then you would be entitled to your opinion.

    If you don’t like it, ignore it. That’s what I do, and I’m sure that’s what the grand majority of users here do if they don’t like a specific content theme.

    Wow, I was really a dick there. My bad. What I’m trying to say is, you can bitch, but don’t expect anything to change.

    My other point still remains though. It’s by no means your site.

    No one tracking the Detroit Tigers? Off the top of my head, they have worn the Jackie Robinson 42’s, otherwise it’s been the same uni all season long. I believe they plan on a Negro League night in July against KC and a 1909 throwback against Pittsburgh in June. My sister is going to the Pit game so I will implore her to take photos.

    Let’s quit with the sniping, please. It’s fine for any reader to say he doesn’t care for the uni-tracking (although I’d prefer a less preachy tone while doing so), or for any other topic, as long as it’s done respectfully. I appreciate those who stick up for the content when such complaints are aired, but no need to insult the complainer.

    Thanks.

    [quote comment=”331944″]Anyways, what my rambling post is getting to is this:

    It’s Paul’s site, Phil is Paul’s employee, and they can post whatever the hell they want to here. You have no right to complain, because it’s not yours. If you owned the place, then you would be entitled to your opinion.

    If you don’t like it, ignore it. That’s what I do, and I’m sure that’s what the grand majority of users here do if they don’t like a specific content theme.[/quote]

    Amen. Although I do take issue with one bit: “if you owned the place, then you would be entitled to your opinion”. Really? I didn’t realize I wasn’t entitled to my opinion simply because I don’t own the site.

    Complaining about content on a free niche site? That I agree is kinda silly. Stifling your opinion about something because you don’t own the site? That being the case, then NO ONE should voice their opinion, positive or negative.

    If Dee’s post praised the uniform tracking, would we be so quick to say “you don’t own the site, so you’re not entitled to your opinion”…? Accepting the positive, gushing and occasional ass-kissing opinions and posts about the site and then slamming someone for a contrarian view makes us no better than the lemmings they claim we are. And I don’t like to think of Uniwatch in that fashion. I don’t consider myself a lemming, as I’m sure none of you do either; but if someone has a different opinion than mine, then who am I to say “you don’t own the site, so you’re not entitles to your opinion”? Hell, *I* don’t own the site either, Paul does, and as far as I know I’ve never heard Paul or Phil or anyone else who runs the site say something to that effect.

    That being said, I thought Dee’s post was petty and narrow-minded. But that’s just my opinion; I could be wrong. And, much like with the content that I have no use for, I ignored the rest of the posts she(?) made after that.

    Hence why I apologized for it right afterward. I screwed that part up. I was on a roll, then. I probably typed that entire comment in less than two minutes. It was editorialized by me. I think more that he’d be much more entitled to a credible opinion of the direction site if he ran the place. That’s what I was trying to say.

    [quote comment=”331945″]Wow, I was really a dick there. My bad. What I’m trying to say is, you can bitch, but don’t expect anything to change.

    My other point still remains though. It’s by no means your site.[/quote]

    Sorry Hemogoblin, I had started typing before you amended your previous post. I totally agree with you.

    Do you purposely post .jpg images to make your site look sloppy? It bugs the crap out of me.

    [quote comment=”331950″][quote comment=”331945″]Wow, I was really a dick there. My bad. What I’m trying to say is, you can bitch, but don’t expect anything to change.

    My other point still remains though. It’s by no means your site.[/quote]

    Sorry Hemogoblin, I had started typing before you amended your previous post. I totally agree with you.[/quote]

    Ahem. It’s The Hemogoblin.

    /sarcasm

    [quote comment=”331952″]Do you purposely post .jpg images to make your site look sloppy? It bugs the crap out of me.[/quote]

    Pretty sure it’s a running joke about how bad L.I. Phil’s photoediting skills are.

    [quote comment=”331952″]Do you purposely post .jpg images to make your site look sloppy? It bugs the crap out of me.[/quote]

    actually it started out as a .bmp

    flickr turns them into j-pegs

    if you’d like to create my header graphics for me each weekend, i’d welcome it

    First, a big thanks to Mike Styczen for tracking the Jays uniforms this year. Thanks to all others as well. I liked the entries this weekend; I found them interesting and valuable.

    Second, I went to the Jays home game against the Red Sox today. They wore the black uniform tops. They lost. All good things must come to an end sometime, I suppose.

    I’m sure there are better pictures, but here’s Kevin Millar and his link.

    Not uni-related, but I saw something today that was very classy. The Blue Jays gave Jason Bay link near his stats on the ribbon board. He also got a link on the scoreboard. (Sorry again about the picture quality.)

    Finally two items that probably no one cares about, but I’ll mention anyway: Dwayne Murphy, the Jays first base coach, does not wear the initial D on his jersey although Bill Murphy, the Jays middle reliever, wore a leading B when he was called up. (He’s currently down again.)

    Since some people on this board do mention them: Fake umps link

    – jude

    Ok, I just got in from a class, but I’m not seeing anyone address what I think is an obvious anomaly:
    what is up with the guy in the link jersey? What color might it be? Where does the photo fit in the Life hodge-podge of organization? Anyone still awake that can add details to this Sox jersey? Year?

    [quote comment=”331868″]

    July 23, 1965, Shea Stadium. Final: Mets 3 Phillies 2 in 10

    Attendance: 38,533[/quote]

    I looked at the link for this game, and it looks like something must have been going on with the lights at Shea Stadium that night. No fewer than three times, a pop-up was hit by the Mets, and three Phillies collided each time going after it. The first collision knocked John Briggs and Tony Taylor out of the game.

    I love those Negro League uniforms that the White Sox and Royals are wearing — why can’t my Cubs get in on that? — and the all-dark look is just as cool as the white-pinstriped-cap look.

    But why, why, WHY can’t these modern jersey makers position the number correctly? It’s always positioned too low. link

    [quote comment=”331892″]Phil … far superior in posting to the previous weekend guy[/quote]
    At least I agree with Dee on one thing…

    [quote comment=”331925″]John Maine reportedly vomited during today’s game (stomach virus). What other instances can you think of in which ballplayers have lost their lunch during a game? I can think of two: (1) Tom Gordon of the Yanks, during the 2004 ALCS, and (2) Ray Oyler of the Pilots, after taking a bullpen pitch in the cup (as recounted in Ball Four). Anyone else?[/quote]

    There was a Maryland/Virginia Tech basketball game earlier this year where Tech’s freshman guard Dorenzo Hudson lost his cookies on the court, and lots of it.

    [url=”http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2008/02/terps_gag_hokies_puke_the_stor.html”]FULL RECAP[/url]

    Fixed the link about the MD/VA game… is there a hyperlinking button here? How are you all doing it? I hope I got it right this time.

    [quote comment=”332106″][quote comment=”331925″]John Maine reportedly vomited during today’s game (stomach virus). What other instances can you think of in which ballplayers have lost their lunch during a game? I can think of two: (1) Tom Gordon of the Yanks, during the 2004 ALCS, and (2) Ray Oyler of the Pilots, after taking a bullpen pitch in the cup (as recounted in Ball Four). Anyone else?[/quote]

    There was a Maryland/Virginia Tech basketball game earlier this year where Tech’s freshman guard Dorenzo Hudson lost his cookies on the court, and lots of it.

    FULL RECAP/a>[/quote]

    [quote comment=”331882″]When the Stanley Cup Finals become the Stanley Cup Final?[/quote]
    Yeah, I found that quite odd. Makes it sound more European, since they obviously have given up on getting more Americans to care…

    The NHL is missing 4 other important letters: E, S, P and N.

    I completely disagree that Brad Penny’s red socks “look like shit”. That scarlet is a great combination with the gray jerseys when also combined with the red undershirts, and even the red sleeve patch. Road jersey combos can be quite dull sometimes, and I find the red refreshing and should be the Red Sox signature look. I emailed Larry Lucchino, thanks to the uni watch member who posted his address, begging him to get rid of the blue socks (and am also absolutely dumbfounded about the White Sox wearing black socks). With so many total shit, shat, horrendously shite alternate jerseys out there (including the Red Sox versions) I am just thankful they still (usually) wear a road gray. Now if they would get rid of those STUPID hanging sox caps all would be right with the world again.

    I’m feeling left out of the tracking…so for fans of teams without alternates, I will track my team..

    Yanks:
    Pinstripes: 14-9
    Road Grays: 16-12

    But seriously, these are interesting little tidbits…always wondered if teams kept track as well in case of the superstitious folk…especially with some of the players. I am not a huge fan of alts, I think road and away suffice, but it is interesting stuff. And I agree with Paul, Mets should go back to the blue hats full time. And a quick side note, why can’t the Red Wings put the SCF patch on their shoulder like the Rangers did in ’94? It wouldn’t make the captain/patch combo look so goofy.

    The first scoreboard shot took place on 7/1/1998 with the Red Sox beating the Expos 6-1 with an attendance of “only” 24,923. The second scoreboard shot took place at Shea Stadium on 7/23/1965. The Mets would win 2-1 in 10 innings on a single.

    Guess the scoreboard,,,,Cards vs. Reds,,,,win by home team,,prior to an 11 game road trip.

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