XLII Bowls, LXXXIV Uniforms

Thanks for the Super Bowl breakdown, Phil. Great work as usual. Now, during the Final Four, can you break down the uniforms for all the participants? I’m thinking just go back to 1979 when Bird & Magic made college ball a big deal. I am willing and able to help if need be

Here are my picks for I thru X. More later when I have time…

I: Packers over Chiefs – This one’s not even close, but it would have been a different story if the Packers had worn white and the Chiefs had worn red.
II: Raiders over Packers – Same thing here — Oakland in a romp. White jersey + yellow pants = trainwreck in my book.
III: Jets over Colts – Our first close contest — you could almost flip a coin on this one, but I love the color patterns on the Jets’ sleeves.
IV: Chiefs over Vikings – Another close one — basically a tie, except for the socks
V: Colts over Cowboys – Another blowout
VI: Cowboys over Dolphins by a nose
VII: Dolphins over Redskins – I don’t care for that stripe pattern on the skins jerseys at all.
VIII: Vikings over Dolphins in another squeaker
IX: Vikings over Steelers – Am I really picking the Vikings twice in a row? As I said, I’m not a fan of the white jersey/yellow pants look. Again, flip the color/white teams and things are much different.
X: Steelers over Cowboys – Another nail-biter, but the Steelers classic black jersey is one of my favorites of all time.

I agree with some choices and disagree with others, but respect your opinion…except for one; Patriots over the Bears? Wait, that can’t be right. Let go back and read it again…WTF?

Now I like Pat the Patriot as much as the next guy, but this choice strains your credibility into Blagojevich territory.

in the later posts from yesterday, it was asked about the 1968-1996 Broncos blue helmet (the one with the orange ‘d’ logo with the snorting horse penned in by the ‘d’) about the shade of blue and how it seemed to evolve from a rather royal blue to a pale blue.

i dug thru some of my super bowl programs and a few other sources and came up with this:

From 1968 thru 1971, it does appear that the helmet is a darker blue. The blue hue seems to lighten from 1972 thru 1978 or 1979. After that, the helmet seemed to be a shade paler for the duration. Not as light as the Oiler columbia blue, but certainly lighter than Giants or Rams blue. it is definitely noticable when the Broncos played the Giants in Super Bowl XXI.

In some b/w photos, the helmet looks lighter than the orange jerseys.

But as been said by Ricko and others with more background on photographic film and print reproduction, it can be tricky to tell.

And, this is how I see it from my own 20/400 eyes, so please don’t take this find as gospel.

[quote comment=”312739″]I agree with some choices and disagree with others, but respect your opinion…except for one; Patriots over the Bears? Wait, that can’t be right. Let go back and read it again…WTF?

Now I like Pat the Patriot as much as the next guy, but this choice strains your credibility into Blagojevich territory.[/quote]

I gotta chime in here and agree.

Ok, fine- I’m a Bears fan. Was born in Chicago.

But, wow… Bears have one of the best uniforms in all of Sports, and are absolutely top three or four in the NFL (Cowboys, Steelers, Packers all fight for the top spot in my mind, everyone else is a distant 5th place and beyond).

The Packers jerseys give me fits. Favored by 14 in SB XXXI – they wear green and roll. Favored by 14 in SB XXXII – they wear white and lose, and to those horrible, horrible Broncos unis. All through the 90s we, and that includes, basically, all Packer fans from my inexact poll, hated those white uniforms. Probably because the Packers always went to Dallas and lost in them. It’s amazing they won SB II in white, especially against arguably the best unis in sports, the Raiders black.

[quote comment=”312745″]The Packers jerseys give me fits. Favored by 14 in SB XXXI – they wear green and roll. Favored by 14 in SB XXXII – they wear white and lose, and to those horrible, horrible Broncos unis. All through the 90s we, and that includes, basically, all Packer fans from my inexact poll, hated those white uniforms. Probably because the Packers always went to Dallas and lost in them. It’s amazing they won SB II in white, especially against arguably the best unis in sports, the Raiders black.[/quote]
The Packers wore white in Dallas? Really?

[quote comment=”312747″][quote comment=”312745″]The Packers jerseys give me fits. Favored by 14 in SB XXXI – they wear green and roll. Favored by 14 in SB XXXII – they wear white and lose, and to those horrible, horrible Broncos unis. All through the 90s we, and that includes, basically, all Packer fans from my inexact poll, hated those white uniforms. Probably because the Packers always went to Dallas and lost in them. It’s amazing they won SB II in white, especially against arguably the best unis in sports, the Raiders black.[/quote]
The Packers wore white in Dallas? Really?[/quote]

The Packers did wear white in 2007 when they visited Dallas:
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…but that was probably the first time in a long time, and only because the ‘Boys were wearing throwbacks.

Also, on a different note, The Lions may lose their treasured Thanksgiving Day game if they keep on stinkin’. Details here:
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No offense to any little people out there, but I just realized that I used the words “dwarfed” and “midget” in the same post.

Best looking games: XV, III, XLI;
Worst looking games: XVII, VI, VIII

[quote comment=”312754″][quote comment=”312752″]Wait a minute. You’re telling me that you think that those godawful Broncos uniforms looked better than Atlanta’s in that Super Bowl? Are you effing kidding me? Those Bronco unis have been a speck in the eye of NFL fans since they were first drawn up. I know the Falcons didn’t have the flashiest of uniforms, and as a longtime fan I still hate the black helmets, but they were a lot classier than their opponents’. Uni-wise, anyway.[/quote]

this was one i agonized over, and i could have chosen the falcons…

my personal opinion is that the falcons looked best in red (their original red) not black, and i was never a fan of the uni they wore in that SB; i agree the broncos’ current uni set is awful (although the all-white is the best of the worst, and prolly set NFL unis down the current path of awfulness on which they are now)…however, my personal opinion, nothing more, is that the ‘better’ (a very relative term) uni was the broncos during that matchup

i can understand if you disagree, completely[/quote]
This could be the only tie in SB uni history.

Ten days til “Pitchers and Catchers report”.
Four of my favorite words, when strung together that way, of course.

(So we’ll have a softball “Benchies” that’s kinda sorta DIY-related with my little green name today. LOL)

—Ricko

[quote comment=”312758″]Random question:

Does anyone know the name of UConn’s font style?

Thanks in advance.[/quote]

It’s based on Armada, but the actual UConn font itself is proprietary.

As long as we’re talking about football uniforms and matchups, here’s an odd one I stumbled upon last night: Portland State (kelly and white) at Idaho (old gold and silver) from 1971.
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—Ricko

[quote comment=”312761″]As long as we’re talking about football uniforms and matchups, here’s an odd one I stumbled upon last night: Portland State (kelly and white) at Idaho (old gold and silver) from 1971.
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—Ricko[/quote]

Oops, should be FOREST and white for Portland State. And I just noticed the QBs pants stripes are different than his blocker’s.

As a die hard Packers fan, I can agree with the above blogger who said that Green Bay fans HATED the Packers white uniforms in the 90s, especially because the team lost the Super Bowl in them. One thing that is incorrect, though, the Packers always wore green in Dallas, until 2007 when the Cowboys sported blue alternates. The Packers losses in Dallas came mostly before they really hit their stride and became the team to beat.

Another reason that contributed to the hatred of the white uniform was the Packers success at home in the green uniforms. Including playoffs, the Packers won 29 consecutive home games from 1995-1998 wearing the green uniforms. They were two games away from setting the all-time home consecutive regular season winning streak (Dolphins of the 70s hold it, I believe). So basically, it seemed impossible to beat the Pack in the green uniforms at home and in the Super Bowl. Then they go into Super Bowl 32 as massive favorites and blow it in those white uniforms. It seems weird, but there was truly a lot of resentment for the Packers’ white uniforms in the 90s. I remember it well. Not a lot of good vibes when they wore those things.

[quote comment=”312766″]Great post.

However, in Super Bowl XLI, the Bears beat the Colts uniform. Easily. I mean, look at those ridiculous truncated stripes on the Colts. It’s like going to the prom all dressed up with a big zit on your nose.[/quote]

You are SO on the money there. It has always bothered me that the Colts (who introduced the double shoulder loop to pro football, for pete’s sake) don’t insist Nike do a better job of keeping that look alive. They’re no longer loops at all, just “forward-facing shoulder stipes.” I mean, who’s the boss here? C’mon, Colts, man up and tell Nike to get down off their damn pedestal and do it right.

—Ricko

I only got 13 of 20 right on the quiz for 65%.

I enjoyed the uni comparisons, but still hope white loses this year.

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my personal opinion is that the falcons looked best in red (their original red) not black, and i was never a fan of the uni they wore in that SB…[/quote]

I COMPLETELY agree, and all is forgiven. Still hate those Broncos unis, though.

Ok, following up on my post yesterday regarding the differing shades of blue on the older Broncos helmets, here are a few screen grabs from the 1977 AFC Championship game.

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One other thing I found interesting was the silk screened numbers on the Raiders jerseys. Never being a huge Raiders fan (for obvious reasons), I always had just assumed they always had embroidered numbers.

Breaking down XXI to XXX…

XXI: Giants over Broncos — not that I dislike them, but I don’t particularly care for the Giants’ unis of this era and sure, the Broncos’ helmet logo blows away the block GIANTS logo, but the G-Men’s shade of blue is a lot more pleasing to the eye than the Broncos’.
XXII: Redskins over the Broncos in a laugher.
XXIII: 49ers over Bengals — another near-coinflip decision, but it’s hard to top the look of the Niners wearing red in the 80s.
XXIV: 49ers over Broncos — Man, the Broncos just can’t buy a victory, can they? Perhaps, like Phil’s choice of the Pats over the Bears, my view of their unis is tarnished by someone I disliked who was a fan of theirs. One nice thing I’ll say about them: at least it doesn’t look like they picked their hosiery out of the Halas Hall trash during this era.
XXV: Bills over Giants — I really don’t particularly like or dislike either uni, but I really can’t stand that block GIANTS logo.
XXVI: Redskins over Bills — Sorry, Buffalo, your marginal sartorial triumph the year before might be your only Super Bowl glory.
XXVII and XXVIII: Cowboys over Bills — no contest
XXIX: 49ers over Chargers — A beatdown of epic proportions pitting the Niners in their best look ever vs. the Chargers in their worst.
XXX: Steelers over Cowboys — Dallas finally gets the better of Pittsburgh in the game, but they lose the uni battle once again.

Best: XXX
Worst: I happen to love both uniforms separately, but toghether they clash pretty badly, so I’ll go with XXXIII

[quote comment=”312775″][quote]C’mon, Colts, man up and tell Nike to get down off their damn pedestal and do it right.[/quote]

we can blame the swoosh for a lot of things (and rightly so)…but i think the vector is at fault here[/quote]

Shit. You’re right. Sorry about that. Nike and Reebok both commit the same “loop abuse” (Nike whacked off Syracuse, I know) so I guess lumped them together. Doesn’t change my recommendation to the Colts regarding their supplier, though. LOL

I do know, for whatever other faults adidas may have, they manage to keep the loops looking at least a little more like loops, hinting at it, anyway…on UCLA, for example.
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Now, whoever supplies Ohio, they’ve got it closer to what it should be.
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My apolgies to Nike. They do loops very well at Cornell.
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—Ricko

[quote comment=”312757″]Ten days til “Pitchers and Catchers report”.
Four of my favorite words, when strung together that way, of course.

—Ricko[/quote]

Agreed. As a Reds fan, I enjoy the off-season and Spring Training much more than the season itself these days.

Jamie,

Phil’s killing you? How about all the tormented Bills fans that were treated to a pic of the infamous Norwood kick for the example of XXV, as if reviewing the uniforms worn in four straight loses. And I know with Phil being a Giants fan he really enjoyed posting the pic haha.

Took the clan to NFL Experience yesterday. Almost like being at the game ;-) as there were THREE flyovers the stadium while we were there (practice makes perfect, I guess).

It was pretty solid. I think someone posted some memorabilia already but here is a small slideshow of helmets: link

There were some more good equipment at the Hunt Auction in the card show tent but the camera had been appropriated by then by the wife, so no shots. I was looking link when a fellow with the auction was wandering around “answering” questions. I pointed out that if it was a 1969 Vikes, it should not have NOB and told him why. He looked at me like I was speaking Chinese.

I did read in the description they did allow for a “team alteration” but the guy had no idea why it shouldn’t have one. Also, I guess it’s possible the patch was below the number during the regular season but I believe they wound up on the shoulder by SB IV. Rick?

On NFL Network’s America’s Game, LC Greenwood gives background on the yellow shoes. link
He had to wear high tops due to an injury and they were black. He didn’t want white so the equipment manager painted them yellow. Really nothing new there but what I didn’t know was that he often stuck his feet in the air after making a tackle because he was tired of Joe Greene getting credit for his tackles.

Phil,

I might be wrong but I think for Super Bowls I-X the ‘better’ uniformed team should have won 7 out of 10 times, not 8 (check Super Bowls II, III, and X). The final total should be 28-14?

Great Breakdown by the way. I probably would have to agree with most of your picks, but the Titans should definitely be over the Rams IMO.

#19

hmmm…I wonder what those games you don’t like have in common…

The weird thing about the white/color jersey analysis is that the white jersey has been helped by those choosing to wear white. The Cowboys (XXVII), Redskins (XVII), and Steelers (XL) all chose to wear white despite being the home team (NFC and AFC switch home designation year to year). The only chosen white jersey that lost is the Cowboys in XIII. Thus you get the white jersey with a better win rate than the designated road team.

Found my copy of the 2003 Lions media guide. It was in ’48 and ’49 only that the Lions wore scarlet (my mistake earlier), black and white.

’48: “The jersey was scarlet with white numbers and the pants were white with a thin black stripe between two thin scarlet stripes. The helmets were black … The team had a second, all-black uniform, which would be worn only for certain important games that McMillin ‘particularly wished to win.’ The jersey was black with white numbers and the pants were black with a thin scarlet stripe between thin white stripes. The two uniform sets ended up being worn in four different combinations (scarlet/white, black/black, scarlet/black, black/white).”

’49: “The Lions returned to wearing their Honolulu blue and silver uniforms at home but continued to wear combinations of the scarlet and white uniforms and the all-black uniforms on the road. The team changed the color of their helmet to blue.”

The helmets stayed blue “for most of the 1950 season.” But then it says they went to silver “for the 1951 season,” AND that the league wouldn’t let them wear their silver helmets for early ’50s night games “because of their resemblance to the white ball under the night lights.” (The league used a white ball for night games at the time.) “They spray-painted their helmets blue for night games.”

I would love to know when the blue helmets went away for good. And now I know why Bobby had a blue helmet on the ’54 Time magazine cover.

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Found this on collegehumor.com today link
It’s probably old, but it’s a Shockey G men jersey with the last name, and numbers upside down.

[quote comment=”312785″][quote comment=”312783″]Well…looks like Detroit fans are all on board with adopting a shitty new logo for the Lions.

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Where is the “none of the above” option?[/quote]

I see the red & black Lion currently is leading.

How original. The lack of independent thought among most sports fans is just…staggering.[/quote]

This is a joke right? Looks like frick and frack here(Karsch & Anderson) quickly put this stupid little poll together and anything pertaining to Lions clipart. “hey, let’s generate some discussion….derrrrrr……….”

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The Steelers have done a good job with getting a lot of pictures throughout Super Bowl week. Friday’s gallery (under “Events” click “2009 Super Bowl XLIII – Friday”) Had 2 pictures I thought were particularly interesting

Pic #21 – Shows the placement of the Super Bowl decal with the Gene Upshaw decal on the back of a Steelers helmet

Pic #28 – James Farrior is wearing eye black tape with USF logos on them (the Steelers are practicing at USF’s facilities while in Tampa)

i don’t know if anyone has pointed this out but perhaps there is an inherent bias in picking the “better” jersey? i.e. because a team won the superbowl we automatically, but subconsciously associate that team with good things and therefore elevate their jersey status? just a thought

[quote comment=”312791″]All right, Phil if it’s link, then how’s it link?. Is forest green that much better than burgundy red?[/quote]

since it is a matter of personal preference (as i said, feel free to disagree with me), i prefer the fins white (with all their uni foibles from that era) to the burgundy AND gold…for whatever reason, just not a fan of those two paired together (i know, i don’t appear consistent, but it’s my list)…

btw…check out the pack vs. skins, circa 75…and how close their pants were in color…in fact, they appear identical except for stripe color…in fact, if you put the pack in a white jersey, the two unis are damn near MIRROR images

Titans to wear Houston Oilers unis against the Bills in HOF game this summer…

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The article hints that the teams will wear their original uniforms- which I’m sure isn’t true. I’m guessing Buffalo will wear their current 3rds.

[quote comment=”312765″]As a die hard Packers fan, I can agree with the above blogger who said that Green Bay fans HATED the Packers white uniforms in the 90s, especially because the team lost the Super Bowl in them. One thing that is incorrect, though, the Packers always wore green in Dallas, until 2007 when the Cowboys sported blue alternates. The Packers losses in Dallas came mostly before they really hit their stride and became the team to beat.

Another reason that contributed to the hatred of the white uniform was the Packers success at home in the green uniforms. Including playoffs, the Packers won 29 consecutive home games from 1995-1998 wearing the green uniforms. They were two games away from setting the all-time home consecutive regular season winning streak (Dolphins of the 70s hold it, I believe). So basically, it seemed impossible to beat the Pack in the green uniforms at home and in the Super Bowl. Then they go into Super Bowl 32 as massive favorites and blow it in those white uniforms. It seems weird, but there was truly a lot of resentment for the Packers’ white uniforms in the 90s. I remember it well. Not a lot of good vibes when they wore those things.[/quote]

I really hate the Packers’ road uniforms. With a passion.

For me, link. The classic pattern looks stupid when you reverse the colors.

Absent a link link to the problem, I’d like to see them return to the link. None of Forrest Gregg’s uniform “improvements” ought to be kept.

[quote comment=”312805″][quote comment=”312791″]All right, Phil if it’s link, then how’s it link?. Is forest green that much better than burgundy red?[/quote]

btw…check out the link, circa 75…and how close their pants were in color…in fact, they appear identical except for stripe color…in fact, if you put the pack in a white jersey, the two unis are damn near MIRROR images[/quote]

Thank Vince for that.

[quote comment=”312809″][quote comment=”312765″]As a die hard Packers fan, I can agree with the above blogger who said that Green Bay fans HATED the Packers white uniforms in the 90s, especially because the team lost the Super Bowl in them. One thing that is incorrect, though, the Packers always wore green in Dallas, until 2007 when the Cowboys sported blue alternates. The Packers losses in Dallas came mostly before they really hit their stride and became the team to beat.

Another reason that contributed to the hatred of the white uniform was the Packers success at home in the green uniforms. Including playoffs, the Packers won 29 consecutive home games from 1995-1998 wearing the green uniforms. They were two games away from setting the all-time home consecutive regular season winning streak (Dolphins of the 70s hold it, I believe). So basically, it seemed impossible to beat the Pack in the green uniforms at home and in the Super Bowl. Then they go into Super Bowl 32 as massive favorites and blow it in those white uniforms. It seems weird, but there was truly a lot of resentment for the Packers’ white uniforms in the 90s. I remember it well. Not a lot of good vibes when they wore those things.[/quote]

I really hate the Packers’ road uniforms. With a passion.

For me, link. The classic pattern looks stupid when you reverse the colors.

Absent a link link to the problem, I’d like to see them return to the link. None of Forrest Gregg’s uniform “improvements” ought to be kept.[/quote]

There’s a good shot of the 2003 Throwbacks. Would that suffice as a “modern” alternative?

XXXI thru XLII. It’s gonna be hard to pick just one for worst matchup here…

XXXI: Packers over Patriots – another slaughter — Patriots are completly outclassed by the Pack.
XXXII: Packers over Broncos – Even with the dreaded white jersey/yellow pants combo wins by default over those Broncos’ eyesores.
XXXIII: Falcons over Broncos – Those old black Falcons unis are underrated. No, they’ve got nothing on the red ones, but they were not without their charm. I don’t care for the Broncos’ all-white look at all.
XXXIV: Rams over Titans – Rams: classic, Titans: disastrous
XXXV: Giants over Ravens – Another lopsided victory. The Giants look outstanding in the modern version of their classic look and the Ravens… have decent sleeve patches.
XXXVI: Rams over the Patriots – It’s a major step down for the Rams from their previous Super Bowl appearances so this one’s closer than it might have been, but Flying Elvis is thwarted again.
XXXVII: Raiders over Buccaneers – The Raiders look great, as always. I actually kinda like the Bucs’ current unis, but those pewter pants are atrocious.
XXXVIII: Patriots over Panthers – Another close one — the Panthers uniforms manage to be even busier than the Patriots’. Plus, the went with the white pants instead of silver.
XXXIX: Eagles over Patriots – Eagles scratch out a victory in another terrible match-up.
XL: Steelers over Seahawks – Another team with the awful white jersey/yellow pants look manages to win because the other team just looks so unbelievably ridiculous.
XLI: Bears over Colts – As a Bears fan, I tried to look at this one as objectively as I could. Overall, they were very evenly matched in most respects (overlooking the truncated shoulder loops). There’s only one element that stands out — the socks. The Colts solid blues can’t hold a candle to the Bears’ striped beauties.
XLII: Giants over the Patriots – I’ve gotten used to it, but the Giants’ white jersey just looks so weird paired with the blue helmet. That being said, it’s a solid uniform. I can’t say the same for the Patriots.

Best: XLI
Worst: XL. God, I hate that monochrome Seattle crap.

Waaaay off topic, but a few weeks ago Paul showed a picture of a guy who bought patches from a website and made a DIY Orioles sweater. Does anyone remember that article or more specifically, the site Paul linked to?

[quote comment=\”312818\”]I was looking through some old stuff, including photos of Charlie Conerly quarterbacking the Giants wearing #42. He played through 1961. John Hadl quarterbacked the Chargers and Rams wearing #21, then was traded to Packers during \’74, where he worn #12. He finished up in \’76 and \’77 with the Oilers. Don\’t remember what number the Oilers gave him.

So the question is: Was the last full-time NFL QB to wear a number higher than 19 John Hadl (Rams \’74), or John Hadl (Oilers \’77)?

Anyone recall his Oiler jersey number?

—Ricko

—Ricko[/quote]

Hadl was the last NFL QB to do it, though I\’m not sure what number he wore in Houston.

Doug Flutie wore 22 in the USFL in 1985.

John Hadl wore #21 link as well.

Flutie wore 22 in USFL not the NFL.
You guys would have loved to do what I dod thru high school and college as an Equipment Manager.
We traded stickers-got to see jersey/pant combos upclose, who wore what shoes, helmet decals and award stickers. Lots of fun.
Stoops

Is anyone else as disgusted by the NY Football Giants in white as I am? The sleeve stripes, pants piping, and helmet stripes all clash w/ each other… blech!

On a different note, I used to lament the weekends because UW wasn’t really intriguing or anything on those days… and then came Phil. Excellent work again! You’re still batting 1.000!!

[quote comment=”312817″]Waaaay off topic, but a few weeks ago Paul showed a picture of a guy who bought patches from a website and made a DIY Orioles sweater. Does anyone remember that article or more specifically, the site Paul linked to?[/quote]

Jan 2, 2009 entry: link

Our latest DIYer: Brian Shane, who bought a plain black hoodie, ordered some patches from these guys, and created this.

Looks like it was link

[quote comment=”312820″]Wow, I forgot how link that Niners throwback was. Throwback or not, the black trim looks like crap. Particularly the cartoonish drop shadow, which makes the number look like it’s set link.

While Green Bay’s white uni has already been widely criticized, no one has mentioned that their logo link. Note: A letter is not a logo. The Chiefs’ link blows it out of the water.

And still no Uniwatch love for the Vikes? Another link logo, and that link looked so much better than the new link.[/quote]

I really don’t understand the logic that “a letter is not a logo”. So you also hate the Bear’s “wishbone ‘C'”, and countless colleges that use “just a letter”?. What about the Colts? Their helmet logo is a friggin’ horseshoe? The “G”, the “C” and the horseshoe are great because they are simple, clean, and show tradition. I’m not saying all old school logos are great. I will agree to a point the the Vikes helmet is cool with their horn, but what makes it better than the Pack’s ‘G’?

Most people know, but some don’t know that the Packer’s “G” has evolved a bit. When first introduced it was more “pointed” as you can see in this pic.:

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I haven’t done any research, but I assume it was made like that to somewhat represent a football shape, and then progressed into the oval shape later on.

[quote comment=”312826″][quote comment=”312825″]Is anyone else as disgusted by the NY Football Giants in white as I am? The sleeve stripes, pants piping, and helmet stripes all clash w/ each other… blech!

On a different note, I used to lament the weekends because UW wasn’t really intriguing or anything on those days… and then came Phil. Excellent work again! You’re still batting 1.000!![/quote]

Before white jerseys were mandated, Giants had a red jersey and a blue jersey, wearing whichever one contrasted when facing a blue or red team on the road. When whites came in, they fashioned their whites to take after the red alternates, including the red socks. It’s that 50s, early 60s throwback look for both home and road that they wear now. So, while some may not like it, at least both are accurate throwbacks. If the numbers, stripes and socks on the road were blue, some would be bitching about how they screwed it up.

Can’t win. LOL

—Ricko[/quote]

I agree that you can’t please everyone all the time, but they should’ve asked me what stripes I liked first! hahaha :)

About the Packers “G” it has evolved some but remember-it was hand applied in 2 parts the green oval and the white G so the Bart Starr image you showed-it may be a tad skewed. As someone who has experience in putting stickers on helmets the shape can change a little.
So please keep that in mind!
Stoops

Too bad this uni didn’t survive long enough to make it to a Super Bowl.
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That’s little (5’7″) Eddie LeBaron, the first Cowboys QB. Sure does make it easy to see how wrong the Cowboys current alledged “throwbacks” are, doesn’t it. Wrong blue (should be royal), wrong style shoulder yoke.

—Ricko

Not sure why no love for the Cowboys royal blue from Super Bowl V. I think the Cowboys’ fans’ superstitions play a part in any general disdain for that jersey, but its a great look in my opinion. I was a Colts fan and worshipped the traditional Colts unis, but like the Cowboys royal blue a lot.

re: post 102 (my “reply” feature isn’t working) . . . the proceeds from the shirts go toward cancer screenings at the UT medical center. And apparently, Pearl only bought the shirts for the student section.

[quote comment=”312830″]Maple Leafs honoured Doug Gilmour by raising his number to the rafters in Toronto tonight.

Players wore #93 blue throwback Leafs uniforms, and all players have the little Leaf with #93 on it during their game against Pittsburgh.[/quote]

Those Leaf throwbacks look great, but didn’t the sweaters originally have a dual white stripe around the lower section? I always loved the triple/triple-stripe socks.

[quote comment=”312836″][quote comment=”312832″]How far back does “Big Blue” as a nickname for the Giants go? I don’t remember hearing it much before the 1980s, if that early.[/quote]

In the 20’s, the Packers were known as the “Blues”, the “Bays”, and the “Big Bay Blues”. Doesn’t help your question, Ricko, but interesting nevertheless I think.[/quote]

Before Packers went to navy (looks royal here), then later bluish-green and finally forest (Lombardi’s arrival)…
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…they had three jerseys in a green & gold theme (any of which would make a pretty good DIY project)…
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All three of those cards are ’55 Bowmans, so the unis are ’54 or earlier.

And, here’s “Thomas” Somebody in the Giants’ red jersey (red in the logo, too), ’52 Bowman…
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—Ricko

Ricko -that Veryl Switzer looks a lot like an Eagle, but Football Reference shows him to be a Packer in ’54 and ’55 and then out of football. Interesting.

Aargh – that should be:

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That’d be a huge improvement.

here ya go

hey chance, congrats on your little one!

Been dying to try this, anyway…to see if I can get from this: link

to this:

And now I’ve really screwed things up…ARGH!

[quote comment=”312845″]Ricko -that Veryl Switzer looks a lot like an Eagle, but Football Reference shows him to be a Packer in ’54 and ’55 and then out of football. Interesting.[/quote]

There are other Bowman cards from that year showing players who hadn’t been anyting but Packers up until then (such as Billy Howton) in that same white jersey.

—Ricko

[quote comment=”312837″]Not sure why no love for the Cowboys royal blue from Super Bowl V. I think the Cowboys’ fans’ superstitions play a part in any general disdain for that jersey, but its a great look in my opinion. I was a Colts fan and worshipped the traditional Colts unis, but like the Cowboys royal blue a lot.[/quote]

As a longtime Cowboys fan, I KNOW that SB loss to the Colts is one of the reasons we hate the blue.
Jim O Brien, PK-WR, #80, from U of Cincinnati.
I will not forget that name.

[quote comment=”312856″][quote comment=”312767″][quote comment=”312766″]Great post.

However, in Super Bowl XLI, the Bears beat the Colts uniform. Easily. I mean, look at those ridiculous truncated stripes on the Colts. It’s like going to the prom all dressed up with a big zit on your nose.[/quote]

You are SO on the money there. It has always bothered me that the Colts (who introduced the double shoulder loop to pro football, for pete’s sake) don’t insist Nike do a better job of keeping that look alive. They’re no longer loops at all, just “forward-facing shoulder stipes.” I mean, who’s the boss here? C’mon, Colts, man up and tell Nike to get down off their damn pedestal and do it right.

—Ricko[/quote]

They’re horseshoes. That’s why they’re the way they are.[/quote]

Horseshoes? Is that something official or are you joking? They went link back in the day. I always heard them referred to as ‘UCLA stripes’. That’s what I called them. I never heard anyone suggest that they were/are horseshoes. May be though, it makes sense.

#104 …a couple of clarifications

For Super Bowl VII (and the entire 1972 season), many Dolphin players wore the white stripeless jersey with the thick numbers that had been their road jersey in 1970 and 1971…the striped jersey with the thinnest numbers you’ve ever seen was introduced in ’72, but was not worn by everyone.

By 1973 the Dolphins introduced another jersey set (both white and aqua) with stripes AND thicker numbers, which were worn by everyone, so your observation about some players being stripeless in SB VIII is incorrect.

[quote comment=”312746″][quote comment=”312745″]The Packers jerseys give me fits. Favored by 14 in SB XXXI – they wear green and roll. Favored by 14 in SB XXXII – they wear white and lose, and to those horrible, horrible Broncos unis. All through the 90s we, and that includes, basically, all Packer fans from my inexact poll, hated those white uniforms. Probably because the Packers always went to Dallas and lost in them. It’s amazing they won SB II in white, especially against arguably the best unis in sports, the Raiders black.[/quote]
The Packers wear green when they go to Dallas[/quote]

See? White jerseys givin’ me fits. Frackin’ white jerseys. Give me fits even when the Pack is wearing green