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Something about this photo struck me. I think it was the amount of “three stripes.” Holy crap, it’s everywhere. And speaking of the three stripes, I found a good story here about who owns stripes. Short version: Adidas owns stripes, and because of that, Adidas owns the NBA, WNBA, and MLS. Stripes everywhere. Even swooshes aren’t that bad. — Bryan

 
  
 
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    We were talking last night about buying embroidered patches and making our own one-off hats, tees, sweatshirts and hoodies.

    Well, here’s another source:
    link

    I bought a Dodgers hat patch from her, ironed it onto a good navy blank, added a right-facing serif to the “A” (bad amateur seamstress, LOL), painted the A red with acrylics and–presto–a hat from the 1957 Pacific Coast League LA Angels.

    Now, if only I could afford this jersey to with it…
    link

    —Ricko

    Good call link, Ricko:
    [quote comment=”295449″]Illinois in orange makes that game look like someone’s collection of their two favorite Fruit Chewies.[/quote]

    Yeah, if the score wasn’t enough to do it, U of I in the orange hemets/jerseys and IU in the crimson helmets/pants definitely made that game hard on my eyes.

    [quote]Adidas owns the NBA, WNBA, and MLS. Stripes everywhere. Even swooshes aren’t that bad.[/quote]

    wow…that’s about the nicest thing a tan box ever said about nike!

    /adidas owns reebok, too…and while the ubiquitous 3 stripes don’t adorn nba (or puck & gridiron gear)…yet…(soccer’s already there) i fear that day is closer than a one-piece, black oregon football unitard with duck feathers and camo

    [quote comment=”295464″][quote]Adidas owns the NBA, WNBA, and MLS. Stripes everywhere. Even swooshes aren’t that bad.[/quote]

    wow…that’s about the nicest thing a tan box ever said about nike!

    /adidas owns reebok, too…and while the ubiquitous 3 stripes don’t adorn nba (or puck & gridiron gear)…yet…(soccer’s already there) i fear that day is closer than a one-piece, black oregon football unitard with duck feathers and camo[/quote]

    Oregon should always wear the yellow shoes.
    Looks like duck feet, which would make adding feathers only natural. Ought to paint lower portion of face masks yellow, too, like a bill. Maybe just a little tuft of a tail on the pants, too.

    Riiiiiiiiiight.

    Oregon in the years right before they added the black (forest helmets with only yellow, forest and white unis and they pretty much stuck with monotone; NOT the Akili Smith era) was a fun look and, at the time, unique. I miss that look. Now they’re a bit, um…much.

    To say the least.

    “More is always better.” Not.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”295462″]We were talking last night about buying embroidered patches and making our own one-off hats, tees, sweatshirts and hoodies.

    Well, here’s another source:
    link

    I bought a Dodgers hat patch from her, ironed it onto a good navy blank, added a right-facing serif to the “A” (bad amateur seamstress, LOL), painted the A red with acrylics and–presto–a hat from the 1957 Pacific Coast League LA Angels.

    Now, if only I could afford this jersey to with it…
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Yep… wish I could afford link 1930 replica jersey… and don’t put a number on it! According to link, the Cards didn’t wear uniform numbers until link!

    [quote comment=”295462″]We were talking last night about buying embroidered patches and making our own one-off hats, tees, sweatshirts and hoodies.

    Well, here’s another source:
    link

    I bought a Dodgers hat patch from her, ironed it onto a good navy blank, added a right-facing serif to the “A” (bad amateur seamstress, LOL), painted the A red with acrylics and–presto–a hat from the 1957 Pacific Coast League LA Angels.

    Now, if only I could afford this jersey to with it…
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Great link. I spent an hour or so looking at patches last night. I’ll post some neat stuff if/when I come across it.

    re: stripes

    I actually don’t mind the stripes at all. I think they look pretty cool, pretty classic…and not as “self-righteous” as the godawful ever-present swoosh.

    Re: Adidas/Reebok

    I wouldn’t buy an NFL jersey for anything cause of the big Reebok logo plasted all over the place. I’m not a Reebok billboard. Now if they want to start paying me, that’s cool, but…

    Also, does anybody have a pic of the new George Mason basketball unis this year? I’ve seen the top, but not the shorts. Thanks for any help you can provide.

    now, now johnny…3 stripes are more evil than swooshes (look at how beautiful they made your link…of course, they still did link)…but it’s tough to work with maroon and orange

    now…can the g-men destroy the niners today?

    #9’s shoes are white and blue…when the team colors look to be just red & white with some yellow

    When done right, the three stripes can look good when incorporated into a jersey design, like the Red Bulls jerseys in the pic at the top of the page.

    I’ve got a late-90s Bayern München jersey that’s similar to link except that it’s got a collar and the blue is limited to the sleeves. There are no armpit panels. I like the way it looks.

    However, link is not a good look.

    [quote comment=”295472″]#9’s shoes are white and blue…when the team colors look to be just red & white with some yellow[/quote]
    The link are blue. And on the home unis, the link has blue in it.

    So… anyone besides the Bears wearing alternates/throwbacks today?

    Cowboys in blue today in St. Louis. Does that count?

    Wha…? Kenny Mayne just did some stupid bit where he’s talked about the epidemic of NFL players losing their helmets. He even went to Hofstra. No mention of the Mr. Met decapitation.

    LarenR posted this last night:

    I think we’ve talked about the A-11 offense before, but the NY Times had an interesting angle. I know there are some HS refs out there. Have any of you seen it? Is it impossible to call?

    On a uni-related note: check out the socks on Piedmont. Too bad they’re purple and will be disavowed by PL.

    I have NEVER seen nor heard of this offense. However, the first thing a Line Judge or Head linesman looks for when the offense(A) comes to the line of scrimmage is that there are:

    1. At least 7 men on the LOS
    or
    2. No more than 4 players behind the LOS
    or
    3. 5 players within the “Tackle Box” numbered 50-79. This makes them inelible to receive as well as if they are covered up by an outside receiver.

    Also, Tyrod Taylor of VaTech wore the Revolution Speed last night:

    link

    link

    link

    And count me in as LOVING all of the VaTech uni combos.

    Also…for the first time EVER, I observed TWO Schutt Air XP helmets on the BC team last night.
    Never, ever have I seen anything other than a Riddell, except for this guy:

    link

    Under Armour has finally released the Wales rugby jersey. This is Under Armour’s first foray into rugby. link

    bryan, as someone who writes on uniwatch, you sure seem to have an elementary knowledge of who owns what in the uni industry. That’s embarassing!

    Well said, Bryan. I think the 3-stripes are far more offensive than anything the Swoosh Monsters have done. Every MLS kit has the look, leaving so little to creativity. It’s like the whole league is Team Adidas, with different colors for each team. And they’ve been doing it for ages. Check out the photos from the 2002 World Cup between Turkey and China ( link). Totally identical uniforms, opposite colors. Maddening. At least Nike is a little more creative with their templates. Yes, the 3 stripe look is pretty cool, but not when it’s on EVERY kit they make.

    [quote comment=”295483″]bryan, as someone who writes on uniwatch, you sure seem to have an elementary knowledge of who owns what in the uni industry. That’s embarassing![/quote]

    perhaps you missed the sarcasm tags

    This photo also demonstrates something that’s always troubled me, only seen in soccer unis: If the player has the option of long-sleeves vs short-sleeves, why would one choose the short-sleeve option and wear a long-sleeve shirt underneath? Especially here, where the long-sleeve jersey is so awesome.

    [quote comment=”295485″][quote comment=”295483″]bryan, as someone who writes on uniwatch, you sure seem to have an elementary knowledge of who owns what in the uni industry. That’s embarassing![/quote]

    perhaps you missed the sarcasm tags[/quote]

    What is this “sarcasm” you speak of, Phil? Is this some sort of new-fangled religion? LOL

    The back of Steven Jackson’s jersey just ripped completely down the back. He had to come out of the game untill he got a new jersey.

    [quote comment=”295487″][quote comment=”295485″][quote comment=”295483″]bryan, as someone who writes on uniwatch, you sure seem to have an elementary knowledge of who owns what in the uni industry. That’s embarassing![/quote]

    perhaps you missed the sarcasm tags[/quote]

    What is this “sarcasm” you speak of, Phil? Is this some sort of new-fangled religion? LOL[/quote]

    it’s like scientology…only better

    bry may not know the difference between timlin and pedroia, but i think he knows adi dassler’s mark of the beast…i think he does anyhoo

    [quote comment=”295473″]When done right, the three stripes can look good when incorporated into a jersey design, like the Red Bulls jerseys in the pic at the top of the page.

    I’ve got a late-90s Bayern München jersey that’s similar to link except that it’s got a collar and the blue is limited to the sleeves. There are no armpit panels. I like the way it looks.

    However, link is not a good look.[/quote]

    Mostly because it’s a Bayern Munich jersey…

    [quote comment=”295490″][quote comment=”295473″]When done right, the three stripes can look good when incorporated into a jersey design, like the Red Bulls jerseys in the pic at the top of the page.

    I’ve got a late-90s Bayern München jersey that’s similar to link except that it’s got a collar and the blue is limited to the sleeves. There are no armpit panels. I like the way it looks.

    However, link is not a good look.[/quote]

    Mostly because it’s a Bayern Munich jersey…[/quote]
    I didn’t notice until just now that the u-umlaut didn’t work in my original post. Odd. It looked fine on the preview.

    But that leads me to a question. I notice most folks refer to the team as Bayern-Munich (German state name/English city name) some go with Bayern-Muenchen (German for both), but I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say Bavaria-Munich(English-only).

    What’s up with using the German state name and the English city name combo?

    [quote comment=”295492″]The Refs are wearing their cold weather pants in Green Bay today.[/quote]
    too bad, it such a good game uni-wise

    The Browns seem to have initials sewn into the sleeve stripes on their jerseys, think they say AL, but I’m not sure. Anyone know what’s the dealio?

    [quote comment=”295494″]The Browns seem to have initials sewn into the sleeve stripes on their jerseys, think they say AL, but I’m not sure. Anyone know what’s the dealio?[/quote]

    Those have been there for a while.

    [quote comment=”295495″][quote comment=”295494″]The Browns seem to have initials sewn into the sleeve stripes on their jerseys, think they say AL, but I’m not sure. Anyone know what’s the dealio?[/quote]

    Those have been there for a while.[/quote]

    Thanks, can you tell me what they mean?

    [quote comment=”295497″]favre is wearing what looks like a packers-yellow shirt under his jersey…can anyone get a better look?[/quote]

    Isn’t that just the lining to his shoulder pads? It’s been like that all season. He should probably get some new pads with a white lining.

    [quote comment=”295491″][quote comment=”295490″][quote comment=”295473″]When done right, the three stripes can look good when incorporated into a jersey design, like the Red Bulls jerseys in the pic at the top of the page.

    I’ve got a late-90s Bayern München jersey that’s similar to link except that it’s got a collar and the blue is limited to the sleeves. There are no armpit panels. I like the way it looks.

    However, link is not a good look.[/quote]

    Mostly because it’s a Bayern Munich jersey…[/quote]
    I didn’t notice until just now that the u-umlaut didn’t work in my original post. Odd. It looked fine on the preview.

    But that leads me to a question. I notice most folks refer to the team as Bayern-Munich (German state name/English city name) some go with Bayern-Muenchen (German for both), but I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say Bavaria-Munich(English-only).

    What’s up with using the German state name and the English city name combo?[/quote]

    It’s always Eintracht Frankfurt…

    except when they’re at the bottom of the table… when they end up being Eintracht Failfurt.

    [quote comment=”295499″]The AL on the Browns jersey is for former owner Al Lerner. He’s dead now.[/quote]

    so how come da raidahs don’t have an AD on theirs?

    [quote comment=”295470″]Re: Adidas/Reebok

    I wouldn’t buy an NFL jersey for anything cause of the big Reebok logo plasted all over the place. I’m not a Reebok billboard. Now if they want to start paying me, that’s cool, but…
    [/quote]
    “All over the place”?
    I think that’s a wee-bit of an overstatement.

    Phil, I’ve been a Niner fan since before the OJ experiment. Wish they’d fire The Suit and replace him with Singletary. Would you want to get on that guy’s bad side?

    [quote comment=”295507″]Phil, I’ve been a Niner fan since before the OJ experiment. Wish they’d fire The Suit and replace him with Singletary. Would you want to get on that guy’s bad side?[/quote]

    link or link?

    and which inspires more fear:

    link or link

    ====

    bad day in teh bay for you:

    NYG: 29 SF: 18
    OAK: 16 NYJ: 13

    Sorry Phil. I can’t get the quotes to work on the Blackberry. That would be the first OJ experiment – reminds me of the 2 week Darryl Strawberry experiment with the Giants in ’94.

    BTW, Was I the only one screaming at the TV that “The gloves shrank because of all the damn dried blood!!”?

    The Bucs wearing white pants with red jerseys @ home tonight. Been a while since that combo has been used I think. I don’t like the look of it but I think they’ve had on field success with it.

    [quote comment=”295511″]anybody know what is up with Matt Garza’s ear?[/quote]

    he’s wearing earplugs…or at least he did during the alds against the pale hose…said it was for a head cold

    link in this screen grab…but i thought i saw something in there

    [quote comment=”295511″]anybody know what is up with Matt Garza’s ear?[/quote]

    Probably cotton ear plugs to drown out the noise. He wore them during the ALDS in Chicago as well.

    [quote comment=\”295478\”]LarenR posted this last night:

    I think we’ve talked about the A-11 offense before, but the NY Times had an interesting angle. I know there are some HS refs out there. Have any of you seen it? Is it impossible to call?

    On a uni-related note: check out the socks on Piedmont. Too bad they’re purple and will be disavowed by PL.

    I have NEVER seen nor heard of this offense. However, the first thing a Line Judge or Head linesman looks for when the offense(A) comes to the line of scrimmage is that there are:

    1. At least 7 men on the LOS
    or
    2. No more than 4 players behind the LOS
    or
    3. 5 players within the \”Tackle Box\” numbered 50-79. This makes them ineligible to receive as well as if they are covered up by an outside receiver.

    Also, Tyrod Taylor of VaTech wore the Revolution Speed last night:

    link

    link

    link

    And count me in as LOVING all of the VaTech uni combos.

    Also…for the first time EVER, I observed TWO Schutt Air XP helmets on the BC team last night.
    Never, ever have I seen anything other than a Riddell, except for this guy:

    link

    [quote comment=”295516″]maryland, your colors are RED and WHITE not black

    link

    this game was impossible to watch…[/quote]

    Flag of the state has red, white, black and gold… and all are featured on every uniform. It’d be the same as the Seahawks having a lime green alternate… hideous looking, but within team colors.

    [quote comment=”295519″][quote comment=”295505″]Al Davis isn’t all dead, just mostly dead.[/quote]

    Did you guys see his link?[/quote]

    that’s good, mr. ocker ;)

    [quote comment=”295520″][quote comment=”295519″][quote comment=”295505″]Al Davis isn’t all dead, just mostly dead.[/quote]

    Did you guys see his link?[/quote]

    that’s good, mr. ocker ;)[/quote]

    One question:

    What the Hecken are you talking about?

    HA…

    got the rays sawks on in the living room and the bucs hawks in the bedroom…just put something in the bedroom…and the bucs fans are all chanting “LETS GO RAYS”

    good stuff

    [quote comment=”295471″]now, now johnny…3 stripes are more evil than swooshes (look at how beautiful they made your link…of course, they still did link)…but it’s tough to work with maroon and orange

    now…can the g-men destroy the niners today?[/quote]

    Touche LI Phil… if only the swoosh stuck with classic looks. I’ve seen a few throwback jobs, done by Nike, that look pretty solid. Alas, for every one nice “classic”, they put out 5 “what the hell” unis. I love that Tech throwback! (Maybe they needed the old school look vs B.C. on last night)

    How ’bout those G-Men? Good solid one today…”business-like”, if you will. Jacobs is turning himself into a top-3 or 4 back in the NFL.

    [quote comment=”295523″][quote comment=”295471″]now, now johnny…3 stripes are more evil than swooshes (look at how beautiful they made your link…of course, they still did link)…but it’s tough to work with maroon and orange

    now…can the g-men destroy the niners today?[/quote]

    Touche LI Phil… if only the swoosh stuck with classic looks. I’ve seen a few throwback jobs, done by Nike, that look pretty solid. Alas, for every one nice “classic”, they put out 5 “what the hell” unis. I love that Tech throwback! (Maybe they needed the old school look vs B.C. on last night)

    How ’bout those G-Men? Good solid one today…”business-like”, if you will. Jacobs is turning himself into a top-3 or 4 back in the NFL.[/quote]

    well, with the nfc beast as solid as it is, “we” should take every win “we” can get…

    btw…did you and stu ever get out of that maize maze?

    No screen grab, but they just showed the Mike Alstott jerseys that are being retired… one creamsicle and one red… BUT… the name on the creamsicle one is mispelled. Alsott instead of Alstott.

    Two things:

    1) You’d think that the Glaser family (owners of Arsenal FC) could spell Mike Alstott’s nameplate correctly on his framed orange jersey (said Alstott, instead)

    2) Dartmouth’s checkered jersey is a throwback from 35 years ago, its first season.

    [quote comment=”295505″]Al Davis isn’t all dead, just mostly dead.[/quote]

    “Well, with all dead there’s only one thing you can do.”

    “What’s that?”

    “Go through his pockets and dig for loose change.”

    [quote comment=”295524″][quote comment=”295523″][quote comment=”295471″]now, now johnny…3 stripes are more evil than swooshes (look at how beautiful they made your link…of course, they still did link)…but it’s tough to work with maroon and orange

    now…can the g-men destroy the niners today?[/quote]

    Touche LI Phil… if only the swoosh stuck with classic looks. I’ve seen a few throwback jobs, done by Nike, that look pretty solid. Alas, for every one nice “classic”, they put out 5 “what the hell” unis. I love that Tech throwback! (Maybe they needed the old school look vs B.C. on last night)

    How ’bout those G-Men? Good solid one today…”business-like”, if you will. Jacobs is turning himself into a top-3 or 4 back in the NFL.[/quote]

    well, with the nfc beast as solid as it is, “we” should take every win “we” can get…

    btw…did you and stu ever get out of that maize maze?[/quote]

    Hahaha….”We” sure can use every win. And yes- We finished the maze! Funny you noticed that part of the gallery. Hit every pumpkin checkpoint along the way! It did take us, probably 20 mins. longer than it should have…

    And before you ask- Her nickname is from the movie Stuart Little…started as a joke, and stuck… 8 years later, she’s still “Stu” to me :)

    [quote comment=”295526″]No screen grab, but they just showed the Mike Alstott jerseys that are being retired… one creamsicle and one red… BUT… the name on the creamsicle one is mispelled. Alsott instead of Alstott.[/quote]

    No screen shot, but I saw it too.

    I don’t mean to sound like a curmudgeon….but is anyone else a bit annoyed at the Rays fans? Awesome team, all year, and they don’t show up until the ALCS. You know 90% of the fans in that building were Yankee/Red Sox/Braves fans over the last 15 years….until October 2008. I know it’s exciting, and everything, but I see “front-runner” looking dudes all over that arena tonight. For every old guy in a 1995 green and purple Devil Rays shirt, there’s 10 guys in perfect new white Rays jerseys, with brand new hats (with flat brims, obviously), with fake tans and other signs of “douchebaggery”.

    [quote]I don’t mean to sound like a curmudgeon….but is anyone else a bit annoyed at the Rays fans?[/quote]

    well…15 years ago there were no rays…and until this year, there was only link

    i see your point but i can cut them some slack too…besides if they can knock off the sawks, ‘rays nation’ will get a whole lot bigger

    [quote comment=”295533″]I don’t mean to sound like a curmudgeon….but is anyone else a bit annoyed at the Rays fans? Awesome team, all year, and they don’t show up until the ALCS. You know 90% of the fans in that building were Yankee/Red Sox/Braves fans over the last 15 years….until October 2008. I know it’s exciting, and everything, but I see “front-runner” looking dudes all over that arena tonight. For every old guy in a 1995 green and purple Devil Rays shirt, there’s 10 guys in perfect new white Rays jerseys, with brand new hats (with flat brims, obviously), with fake tans and other signs of “douchebaggery”.[/quote]

    I am a Rays fan (raised in St.Pete) and all year people were bitching that they couldn’t fill the stands and now that they do in the playoffs (as most teams do) it’s all just bandwagoners. Granted there are a bunch of bandwagoners but hey you gotta build your fan base somewhere. Put it this way, when Namoli was the principle owner of the team not only did he piss of business’ but most of the fans so much so that they did not want to come. I was at the Trop during the last series Cal Ripken played and Namoli came out on the field and was booed for about 5 min straight while he was presenting Ripken with his gifts. Sternberg is trying his best to distance himself from Namoli the best he can. Sorry about the rant but comments like your just piss me off to no end. Oh yea and the last thing moving the stadium will not increase attendance it will just make the people of Tampa happy that a team that has Tampa in the name is actually in the city itself. As Longoria said most of the frontrunners are from Tampa and are only there to be seen.

    [quote comment=”295536″]Where exactly would this camo pattern be effective?

    link

    Looks like you got your deer, but it exploded.[/quote]

    Let’s try again.
    link

    [quote comment=”295534″][quote]I don’t mean to sound like a curmudgeon….but is anyone else a bit annoyed at the Rays fans?[/quote]

    well…15 years ago there were no rays…and until this year, there was only link

    i see your point but i can cut them some slack too…besides if they can knock off the sawks, ‘rays nation’ will get a whole lot bigger[/quote]

    Somehow I really can’t blame them for not being fans of the Rays 15 years ago

    [quote comment=”295533″]I don’t mean to sound like a curmudgeon….but is anyone else a bit annoyed at the Rays fans? Awesome team, all year, and they don’t show up until the ALCS.[/quote]
    Hey, now. That’s not true. They were there for the ALDS, too.

    [quote comment=”295541″]That new proposed stadium for the TBR’s looks cool. Is it being built?[/quote]

    No. It never got the backing from the city council so they did not go forward with it at this time. They will try to come up with a different way to pitch it in the near future.

    [quote comment=”295532″][quote comment=”295526″]No screen grab, but they just showed the Mike Alstott jerseys that are being retired… one creamsicle and one red… BUT… the name on the creamsicle one is mispelled. Alsott instead of Alstott.[/quote]

    No screen shot, but I saw it too.[/quote]

    Found one:
    link

    can we stop hating on the terps black jerseys? they fit within their color scheme so theyre not just black for the sake of black (which, btw, i have no problem with… just my opinion) and they look good. trust me terp fans have been excited about the ua jerseys ever since they came out (i used to be a terp fan… then i went to a different school haha but they still hold a place in my heart). and i feel like if the student body is excited about them thats a pretty good thing.

    [quote comment=”295543″][quote comment=”295532″][quote comment=”295526″]No screen grab, but they just showed the Mike Alstott jerseys that are being retired… one creamsicle and one red… BUT… the name on the creamsicle one is mispelled. Alsott instead of Alstott.[/quote]

    No screen shot, but I saw it too.[/quote]

    Found one:
    link
    Could it be a jersey with a misspelled nameplate from his rookie year that they included as a “look how far he went” type of tribute?

    The cards the audience members held up in the end zone to form the dual 40s was a nice touch, too.

    [quote comment=”295544″]Is that a Domanick Williams/Davis red alternate behind home plate?[/quote]

    Don’t you think it would probably be a Bucs jersey, since it’s in Tampa (St. Petersburg, actually)?

    So now we have one of the most undeserving fanbases going to the World Series. Tampa Bay is pathetic. They couldn’t even 1/3 fill their stadium for the first ten years in their existence and now they have to remove the tarp because of ticket demand. Pathetic. Utterly pathetic. The fairweather bandwagonism in that city is pathetic.

    For the sake of baseball, I hope the Phillies wipe them off the map

    [quote comment=”295549″]So now we have one of the most undeserving fanbases going to the World Series. Tampa Bay is pathetic. They couldn’t even 1/3 fill their stadium for the first ten years in their existence and now they have to remove the tarp because of ticket demand. Pathetic. Utterly pathetic. The fairweather bandwagonism in that city is pathetic.

    For the sake of baseball, I hope the Phillies wipe them off the map[/quote]

    hey now…. dont jinx it

    sorry, i hate the sawx

    [quote comment=”295549″]So now we have one of the most undeserving fanbases going to the World Series. Tampa Bay is pathetic. They couldn’t even 1/3 fill their stadium for the first ten years in their existence and now they have to remove the tarp because of ticket demand. Pathetic. Utterly pathetic. The fairweather bandwagonism in that city is pathetic.

    For the sake of baseball, I hope the Phillies wipe them off the map[/quote]

    The real test will be to see how they turn out next season. Considering some of the bonehead baseball I’ve seen that team play over the past few years (and that’s just against the Twins), I guess I can kinda forgive the fans for being decidedly “wait and see”.

    So now WE “wait and see” how ticket sales go in 2009.

    And even driving by it on the freeway, the Trop is UGGGGGG-ly. Looks like the world’s biggest warehouse. Yuk. Not exactly inviting.

    [quote comment=”295542″][quote comment=”295541″]That new proposed stadium for the TBR’s looks cool. Is it being built?[/quote]

    No. It never got the backing from the city council so they did not go forward with it at this time. They will try to come up with a different way to pitch it in the near future.[/quote]

    brinke and kevin…

    you’re referring to link, yes?

    isn’t there (valid) concern that a fully enclosed building (not just a cool looking retractable sail) is really needed, due to the weather?

    [quote comment=”295551″][quote comment=”295549″]So now we have one of the most undeserving fanbases going to the World Series. Tampa Bay is pathetic. They couldn’t even 1/3 fill their stadium for the first ten years in their existence and now they have to remove the tarp because of ticket demand. Pathetic. Utterly pathetic. The fairweather bandwagonism in that city is pathetic.

    For the sake of baseball, I hope the Phillies wipe them off the map[/quote]

    The real test will be to see how they turn out next season. Considering some of the bonehead baseball I’ve seen that team play over the past few years (and that’s just against the Twins), I guess I can kinda forgive the fans for being decidedly “wait and see”.

    So now WE “wait and see” how ticket sales go in 2009.

    And even driving by it on the freeway, the Trop is UGGGGGG-ly. Looks like the world’s biggest warehouse. Yuk. Not exactly inviting.[/quote]
    Yea, but there were minor league teams that averaged more fans per game than the Rays did over the past decade. The only times the Trop would even be close to half sold out is when the Yanks or Red Sox were in town. Now, they string together one good season and the town is acting like they’ve been die-hards forever. Give me a fucking break!

    Sorry, I just don’t have any respect for a fanbase that couldn’t care about its team until it actually won some games. There’s too many other teams out there with fans that actually care for me to feel good about the Rays. That franchise should have been moved years ago.

    [quote comment=”295552″][quote comment=”295542″][quote comment=”295541″]That new proposed stadium for the TBR’s looks cool. Is it being built?[/quote]

    No. It never got the backing from the city council so they did not go forward with it at this time. They will try to come up with a different way to pitch it in the near future.[/quote]

    brinke and kevin…

    you’re referring to link, yes?

    isn’t there (valid) concern that a fully enclosed building (not just a cool looking retractable sail) is really needed, due to the weather?[/quote]
    If they were to build it on the bay, like that picture shows, then it shouldn’t be too much of a big deal because of the constant breeze they’d get. Only concern I would see would be about summer rainstorms.

    [quote comment=”295552″][quote comment=”295542″][quote comment=”295541″]That new proposed stadium for the TBR’s looks cool. Is it being built?[/quote]

    No. It never got the backing from the city council so they did not go forward with it at this time. They will try to come up with a different way to pitch it in the near future.[/quote]

    brinke and kevin…

    you’re referring to link, yes?

    isn’t there (valid) concern that a fully enclosed building (not just a cool looking retractable sail) is really needed, due to the weather?[/quote]

    No the real concern was building on the water front and taking away Al Lang Stadium plus no parking at the stadium. However having lived there for 23 of my 28 years on the Earth, I say yes in the Tampa Bay area you need a fully enclosed building. I watched Wakefield almost throw a no hitter while watching sheets of water fall off the roof of the Trop. If its not the heat its the humidity or the bugs or the lightning or the heat.

    [quote comment=”295536″]Where exactly would this camo pattern be effective?

    link

    Looks like you got your deer, but it exploded.[/quote]

    I just threw up in my mouth

    Joe Maddon already had a WS game hat on, WS logo on the side by the time he was on the field! I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like that before. Not an AL Champions hat, but what will be a World Series Game Cap. This is unreal.

    [quote comment=”295560″]A thing of beauty as Joe Maddon just had on a World Series hat.[/quote]

    on the bright side, 25 somalians will soon think the bosox are the 2008 al champs

    Interesting: In 2005, the Chicago White Sox and Houston Astros met in the World Series, resulting in all geographic indicators absent from hats.
    In 2008, the TB Rays and Phillies will square off, meaning there will be no city name on any World Series jersey. Furthermore, unless the BP jerseys inexplicably get out of the closet, there will be no softball tops this year. Just white (or cream) vs gray. And speaking of cream, if they were to be worn, it would be New Uniform That Didn’t Exist Last Year vs Other New Uniform That Didn’t Exist Last Year.
    Have no idea what this means, but sorry in advance for spoiling a line from Mr Lukas’ Uni Watch WS preview that may or may not happen. Just thought it would be cool to point out.

    [quote comment=”295563″]Interesting: In 2005, the Chicago White Sox and Houston Astros met in the World Series, resulting in all geographic indicators absent from hats.
    In 2008, the TB Rays and Phillies will square off, meaning there will be no city name on any World Series jersey. Furthermore, unless the BP jerseys inexplicably get out of the closet, there will be no softball tops this year. Just white (or cream) vs gray. And speaking of cream, if they were to be worn, it would be New Uniform That Didn’t Exist Last Year vs Other New Uniform That Didn’t Exist Last Year.
    Have no idea what this means, but sorry in advance for spoiling a line from Mr Lukas’ Uni Watch WS preview that may or may not happen. Just thought it would be cool to point out.[/quote]

    Phillies’ cream unies are only worn for day games, so I doubt we see them in the Series.

    I noticed Dodgers-Phillies featured a battle between two teams whose NOBs are sewn on by individual letters, while Red Sox-Rays both use name plates.

    [quote comment=”295549″]So now we have one of the most undeserving fanbases going to the World Series. Tampa Bay is pathetic. They couldn’t even 1/3 fill their stadium for the first ten years in their existence and now they have to remove the tarp because of ticket demand. Pathetic. Utterly pathetic. The fairweather bandwagonism in that city is pathetic.

    For the sake of baseball, I hope the Phillies wipe them off the map[/quote]

    Do you think the Yankees were filling the Stadium in the late 1980s? And the Red Sox had some mediocre crowds at Fenway in the early 1990s. Fans everywhere come out when teams win and stay away when they lose.

    [quote comment=”295562″][quote comment=”295560″]A thing of beauty as Joe Maddon just had on a World Series hat.[/quote]

    on the bright side, 25 somalians will soon think the bosox are the 2008 al champs[/quote]

    Man, they must think that the New England area rules the fucking sports world. Last year it was Pats as SB champs, now Sawx as AL champs….

    The story with the Alstott Jersey. The orange jersey is from his rookie year. (1996) For his first two home games his jersey was mispelled. This was intentional. It was the first jersey he ever wore in the NFL.

    [quote comment=”295549″]So now we have one of the most undeserving fanbases going to the World Series. Tampa Bay is pathetic. They couldn’t even 1/3 fill their stadium for the first ten years in their existence and now they have to remove the tarp because of ticket demand. Pathetic. Utterly pathetic. The fairweather bandwagonism in that city is pathetic.

    For the sake of baseball, I hope the Phillies wipe them off the map[/quote]

    I’m sick of this. The team is 11 freakin years old. During any 10 year losing stretch for any other team attendance sucked. This is the way fan bases are built. Our city just hates Shitty owners who are only looking to put money in their own pockets and not at least try to put a winner on the field.

    [quote comment=”295569″][quote comment=”295549″]So now we have one of the most undeserving fanbases going to the World Series. Tampa Bay is pathetic. They couldn’t even 1/3 fill their stadium for the first ten years in their existence and now they have to remove the tarp because of ticket demand. Pathetic. Utterly pathetic. The fairweather bandwagonism in that city is pathetic.

    For the sake of baseball, I hope the Phillies wipe them off the map[/quote]

    I’m sick of this. The team is 11 freakin years old. During any 10 year losing stretch for any other team attendance sucked. This is the way fan bases are built. Our city just hates Shitty owners who are only looking to put money in their own pockets and not at least try to put a winner on the field.[/quote]

    True. Look at the Pirates, Royals, etc…

    [quote comment=”295570″][quote comment=”295569″][quote comment=”295549″]So now we have one of the most undeserving fanbases going to the World Series. Tampa Bay is pathetic. They couldn’t even 1/3 fill their stadium for the first ten years in their existence and now they have to remove the tarp because of ticket demand. Pathetic. Utterly pathetic. The fairweather bandwagonism in that city is pathetic.

    For the sake of baseball, I hope the Phillies wipe them off the map[/quote]

    I’m sick of this. The team is 11 freakin years old. During any 10 year losing stretch for any other team attendance sucked. This is the way fan bases are built. Our city just hates Shitty owners who are only looking to put money in their own pockets and not at least try to put a winner on the field.[/quote]

    True. Look at the Pirates, Royals, etc…[/quote]
    I honestly don’t know how the fans in Pittsburgh deal with it. Don’t know what the feeling is in KC. Hugh Culverhouse and Vince Namoli were two of the absolute worst owners in major US sports history.

    [quote comment=”295569″][quote comment=”295549″]So now we have one of the most undeserving fanbases going to the World Series. Tampa Bay is pathetic. They couldn’t even 1/3 fill their stadium for the first ten years in their existence and now they have to remove the tarp because of ticket demand. Pathetic. Utterly pathetic. The fairweather bandwagonism in that city is pathetic.

    For the sake of baseball, I hope the Phillies wipe them off the map[/quote]

    I’m sick of this. The team is 11 freakin years old. During any 10 year losing stretch for any other team attendance sucked. This is the way fan bases are built. Our city just hates Shitty owners who are only looking to put money in their own pockets and not at least try to put a winner on the field.[/quote]
    You don’t deserve a winner

    You deserve to have your team in a more deserving market… Even Tampa’s minor league franchises (namely, Durham) has more loyal fanbases than the Rays.

    Pathetic

    [quote comment=”295573″]They couldn’t even 1/3 fill their stadium for the first ten years in their existence and now they have to remove the tarp because of ticket demand. [/quote]

    They absolutely SUCKED their first 10 years. Hence no one showed up to games. Certainly that can’t be a surprise. This happens all over MLB. A team doesn’t win, they don’t draw. Why so much hatred towards the Rays……?

    And since they’re in the playoffs, there’s naturally going to be more demand for tickets. Duh. Why exactly does that piss you off?

    [quote comment=”295573″]You don’t deserve a winner

    You deserve to have your team in a more deserving market… Even Tampa’s minor league franchises (namely, Durham) has more loyal fanbases than the Rays.

    Pathetic[/quote]

    Well gee, let me see. You were going on and on and on the other day about the Carolina Hurricanes’ colors, you praise the Durham Rays minor-league affiliate for having a loyal fanbase, I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that a “more deserving market” you would love to see the Rays franchise relocated to is somewhere in the Carolinas.

    [quote comment=”295572″]What was on Papi’s undershirt? it had something written right under the collar[/quote]

    It said “I played in the ALCS and all I got was a box of t-shirts shipped to Somalia?” in Spanish.

    [quote comment=”295573″][quote comment=”295569″][quote comment=”295549″]So now we have one of the most undeserving fanbases going to the World Series. Tampa Bay is pathetic. They couldn’t even 1/3 fill their stadium for the first ten years in their existence and now they have to remove the tarp because of ticket demand. Pathetic. Utterly pathetic. The fairweather bandwagonism in that city is pathetic.

    For the sake of baseball, I hope the Phillies wipe them off the map[/quote]

    I’m sick of this. The team is 11 freakin years old. During any 10 year losing stretch for any other team attendance sucked. This is the way fan bases are built. Our city just hates Shitty owners who are only looking to put money in their own pockets and not at least try to put a winner on the field.[/quote]
    You don’t deserve a winner

    You deserve to have your team in a more deserving market… Even Tampa’s minor league franchises (namely, Durham) has more loyal fanbases than the Rays.

    Pathetic[/quote]

    I’m going to keep this as civil as I can. What do you know about the Tampa area? Pretty damn sure nothing. The city has 3 pro teams for a grand total of 59 cumulative years between them. Sorry our teams have not been around since the early 1900’s. Seems odd to me that even with bandwagon fans(which to you is essentially every single person who goes to a sporting event) Between the Rays and the Bucs tonight there were 105,284 Fans in seats tonight. the total population the the City of Tampa is just above 300k.

    [quote comment=”295577″]I’m going to keep this as civil as I can. What do you know about the Tampa area? Pretty damn sure nothing. The city has 3 pro teams for a grand total of 59 cumulative years between them. Sorry our teams have not been around since the early 1900’s. Seems odd to me that even with bandwagon fans(which to you is essentially every single person who goes to a sporting event) Between the Rays and the Bucs tonight there were 105,284 Fans in seats tonight. the total population the the City of Tampa is just above 300k.[/quote]

    And the other 200,000 of them were retirees that weren’t going to go out anyway. That’s pretty damn impressive.

    [quote comment=”295551″]And even driving by it on the freeway, the Trop is UGGGGGG-ly. Looks like the world’s biggest warehouse. Yuk. Not exactly inviting.[/quote]

    Have you ever seen a round warehouse?

    No, you haven’t.

    [quote comment=”295573″][quote comment=”295569″][quote comment=”295549″]So now we have one of the most undeserving fanbases going to the World Series. Tampa Bay is pathetic. They couldn’t even 1/3 fill their stadium for the first ten years in their existence and now they have to remove the tarp because of ticket demand. Pathetic. Utterly pathetic. The fairweather bandwagonism in that city is pathetic.

    For the sake of baseball, I hope the Phillies wipe them off the map[/quote]

    I’m sick of this. The team is 11 freakin years old. During any 10 year losing stretch for any other team attendance sucked. This is the way fan bases are built. Our city just hates Shitty owners who are only looking to put money in their own pockets and not at least try to put a winner on the field.[/quote]
    You don’t deserve a winner

    You deserve to have your team in a more deserving market… Even Tampa’s minor league franchises (namely, Durham) has more loyal fanbases than the Rays.

    Pathetic[/quote]

    You can say it over and over. Just makes you look like a bitter asshole.

    Pathetic

    [quote comment=”295561″]Joe Maddon already had a WS game hat on, WS logo on the side by the time he was on the field! I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like that before. Not an AL Champions hat, but what will be a World Series Game Cap. This is unreal.[/quote]

    I guess you didn’t watch the NLCS where Charlie Manuel had a Phillies cap witha World Series patch on the side, did you?

    At least Maddon took the sticker off the lid.

    [quote comment=”295568″]The story with the Alstott Jersey. The orange jersey is from his rookie year. (1996) For his first two home games his jersey was mispelled. This was intentional. It was the first jersey he ever wore in the NFL.[/quote]

    Can you elaborate, please? How do you know this? Was it reported somewhere? Did they explain it on the P.A. system during the ceremony? Details, please.

    [quote comment=”295573″][quote comment=”295569″][quote comment=”295549″]So now we have one of the most undeserving fanbases going to the World Series. Tampa Bay is pathetic. They couldn’t even 1/3 fill their stadium for the first ten years in their existence and now they have to remove the tarp because of ticket demand. Pathetic. Utterly pathetic. The fairweather bandwagonism in that city is pathetic.

    For the sake of baseball, I hope the Phillies wipe them off the map[/quote]

    I’m sick of this. The team is 11 freakin years old. During any 10 year losing stretch for any other team attendance sucked. This is the way fan bases are built. Our city just hates Shitty owners who are only looking to put money in their own pockets and not at least try to put a winner on the field.[/quote]
    You don’t deserve a winner

    You deserve to have your team in a more deserving market… Even Tampa’s minor league franchises (namely, Durham) has more loyal fanbases than the Rays.

    Pathetic[/quote]

    Yes, yes you are with your holier-than-thou attitude. You are just pissed because the Rays beat the Sawks and their Nation of asswipes.

    Talk about bandwagoneers, The Nation is the worst bunch of bandwagoneers on the planet.

    Go find a pink hat to wear while singing Sweet Caroline while I’m watching the Rays in the World Series.

    Does anyone know why the Sabres “for Sale’ jersey features the swords and Buffalo with a silver outline,

    link

    but the actual jersey is a straight white on Blue ( a much clearer look?

    link

    link

    [quote comment=”295582″][quote comment=”295568″]The story with the Alstott Jersey. The orange jersey is from his rookie year. (1996) For his first two home games his jersey was mispelled. This was intentional. It was the first jersey he ever wore in the NFL.[/quote]

    Can you elaborate, please? How do you know this? Was it reported somewhere? Did they explain it on the P.A. system during the ceremony? Details, please.[/quote]

    Paul I have no photographic proof. I wasn’t at the game tonight so I’m not sure about the P.A. announcemets at the stadium. But I do remember it. It was still a dark time in the limited Bucs history so it’s hard to find.

    [quote comment=”295582″][quote comment=”295568″]The story with the Alstott Jersey. The orange jersey is from his rookie year. (1996) For his first two home games his jersey was mispelled. This was intentional. It was the first jersey he ever wore in the NFL.[/quote]

    Can you elaborate, please? How do you know this? Was it reported somewhere? Did they explain it on the P.A. system during the ceremony? Details, please.[/quote]

    after searching the local media. i found this

    link

    [quote comment=”295549″]So now we have one of the most undeserving fanbases going to the World Series. Tampa Bay is pathetic. They couldn’t even 1/3 fill their stadium for the first ten years in their existence and now they have to remove the tarp because of ticket demand. Pathetic. Utterly pathetic. The fairweather bandwagonism in that city is pathetic.

    For the sake of baseball, I hope the Phillies wipe them off the map[/quote]

    Dude, how many teams as bad as the Devil Rays draw a fanbase when they have no tradition or winning?

    [quote comment=”295579″][quote comment=”295551″]And even driving by it on the freeway, the Trop is UGGGGGG-ly. Looks like the world’s biggest warehouse. Yuk. Not exactly inviting.[/quote]

    Have you ever seen a round warehouse?

    No, you haven’t.[/quote]

    I meant it’s that bland.

    [quote comment=”295484″ At least Nike is a little more creative with their templates. Yes, the 3 stripe look is pretty cool, but not when it’s on EVERY kit they make.[/quote]

    The exception proves the rule, but there are at least two. The best example is Ajax of Amsterdam. The Ajax shirt is traditionally white with a thick red vertical band. When they switched from Umbro to adidas a few years back, red stripes appeared on the traditionally plain white sleeves. Needless to say, the fans went haywire.

    A compromise was reached. The shirt that Ajax wears in domestic competition features no red stripes on the sleeve but they do appear whenever Ajax take part in European competition ( UEFA Cup, Champions League ).

    A very similar situation exists with Panathinaikos all green centenary shirt. No stripes in domestic games. Stripes in Europe.

    Personally, I don’t have a huge problem with them as they’ve always been on soccer/football jerseys for as long as my 34 years can remember. Johann Cruyff did decades ago though; he was sponsored by Puma but Holland were sponsored by Adidas, so he had a special Dutch jersey made with only two stripes!

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