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And My Team Chose to Stand Pat

While other pundits scurry to assess the winners and losers in yesterday’s flurry of deadline deals, I’m more interested in the uni-related implications. So here’s a chart that breaks down some of the game’s recent trades in terms the rest of the media world is likely to overlook:

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Raffle Reminder: In case you missed it yesterday, I’m raffling off a $200 Distant Replays gift card. To enter, send a blank e-mail with your name in the subject line here by 10pm eastern tonight (one entry per person, plus I’ll automatically add three entries for membership program enrollees). The winner will be announced on Monday, and I’ll kick off another raffle on Tuesday.

Banner Day: Remember our recent discussions about the differing “NBA” icons on the Celtics’ championship banners? As you may recall, a team tour guide had said that the icon was white for championships that were won at home (because the Celtics were wearing white) and green for championships won on the road — but that logic didn’t hold up for all of the banners. Fortunately, Chris Sykes recently talked to the president of the company today that makes the banners and got the scoop:

Today a man named Ned Flynn came into my store. He’s the president of New England Flag and Banner — they do all of the banners for the Celtics rafters and a bunch of colleges — so I asked him about the NBA icon. Ned had clearly heard this question before. He confirmed that it’s supposed to be based on whether the team clinched the title at home or on the road, but he explained why that system is no longer reflected on all of the banners:

“Years ago, when the Celtics were on road trips, the circus would sometimes come into town and use the Boston Garden. Whenever this happened, the banners would have to come down to make room for the trapeze and such. On one of these nights, the office where the banners were being stored had a fire. Certain championship year banners were damaged, so new banners had to be quickly made before the Celtics returned for a home game. The only problem was that in the haste to make the replacement banners, the home and road championship-clinching locations were not taken into account. No one ever seemed to notice. The banners were even redone to make them larger in the ’80s and the mistake was unfortunately repeated.”

Ned said he’s received many e-mails in the past over this miscue but never responded. He said the Celtics organization is aware of this as well, but no further action to change the mistakes has been made — it’s all now part of the Celtics lore.

Big thanks to Chris for getting the story straight from the horse’s mouth.

Attention Phil Miller: I got the package — thanks! Please drop me a line. Thanks.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Fun survey of Philadelphia uniforms here (with thanks to Tom Gabor). ”¦ My Very Favorite Object in the World just got another shout-out (with thanks to James Yeh). ”¦ Check out the stripes on this kid! Must explain his hitting prowess (with thanks to Louie Gaunch). ”¦ Really interesting article here about punters and kickers and their cleats (with thanks to Doug Mooney). ”¦ Speaking of kickers, about a year and a half ago I interviewed Stefan Fatsis about his Plimpton-esque stint as a Broncos kicker. His book about that experience is out now. I’ll have more to say about it once I read it (very annoying, however, that there’s no index, so I can’t just look up “Uniforms”). ”¦ Look what the St. Paul Saints wore back in 2001! Mike Nachreiner, I know you’re reading this — you’ve got to resurrect that promotion (as discovered by Ross Hazlett). ”¦ Way back in March, I wrote this on ESPN. Four months later, can’t say I’ve noticed any players with mismatched shades of gray, but Braves broadcaster Jon Sciambi did during Wednesday night’s Braves/Cardinals game. “We talked about this the other night,” he said during the top of the 9th. “It wasn’t just Braden Looper the other night — almost all [the Cardinals’] uniform tops do not match their pants. They have a darker gray on up top and a lighter gray below. That’s weird.” To which Joe Simpson replied, “I think it’s just perspiration. I’m looking at the coaches, and they don’t appear to be that way.” Wrong again, guys (with thanks to Doug Simpson for the tip). ”¦ Maurice Jones-Drew has the Superman logo on his insole (with thanks to Jonathon Binet). ”¦ At last week’s KGB reading, I met a guy who said he basically invents new sports and games. His organization (and I use the term loosely), the Institute for Aesthletics, is part art project, part community sports group. With sports like wiffle hurling, straitjacket softball and wiffle hurling, there’s plenty to like here. Check out the Aesthletics web site here. ”¦ Fascinating logo here. According to this auction page, it was used by the Rockford Expos, which was a Montreal farm team in the 1990s (nice find by Daniel Ostroff-Moskowitz). ”¦ Amazing footage here of the famous “Folly Floater” incident, in which Steve Hamilton of the Yanks threw a pair of eephus pitches to Tony Horton of the Indians, who popped out and was so embarrassed that he crawled back into the dugout on his hands and knees. “This at-bat, which is well-known in Indians lore, was supposedly the beginning of Horton’s spiral into severe clinical depression that eventually ended his playing career that year, at a relatively young age of 26,” says Jeff Lindquist. ”¦ Looks like this Colorado lacrosse player got a bit carried away with the eye black (with thanks to Kathryn Plimpton). ”¦ Here’s something I’ve never seen before: The Tri-City Dust Devils (short-season A affiliate of the Colorado Rockies) wear shorts during BP (thanks to John Boerger). ”¦ According to this report, the Redskins will go with white jerseys and burgundy pants for their first four home games this season and then go to dark jerseys and white pants for the remaining home games (with thanks to Geoff Baker). ”¦ NASCAR driver Martin Truex Jr. recently visited Eagles training camp and they presented him with the obligatory jersey, but Drew Glover notes that they didn’t use the right nameplate font. ”¦ How great is the Speedo LZR? So great that it’s being used for cycling (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). ”¦ As noted in today’s chart, Pudge is wearing No. 12 with the Yanks, but he still had his No. 7 spikes last night. ”¦ Stan Bush says a source in the Nuggets’ marketing office told him that the team’s upcoming uni changes will consist of the following: “They’re going to take the DN logo off their shorts on both home and road uniforms and replace that with the alternate pick-axe logo. They will also be adding the pick-axe above the players’ names on the back of both jerseys to match the dark blue alternate. No major change in colors though, even though they made the change to their primary logo.”

 
  
 
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    “Better off in L.A., where the home pants are piping-free (the Sox’s pants piping had accentuated his ultra-baggy look.”

    But the real question is, do they make snoods in Dodger Blue?

    I am from the Detroit area, love Scotty Bowman, actually am excited for him to help CHI get back to the NHL elite, but why the hell would you give him a jersey?!?

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    I would really like to know what front office people do with these jerseys they get at news conferences.

    [quote comment=”282835″]I am from the Detroit area, love Scotty Bowman, actually am excited for him to help CHI get back to the NHL elite, but why the hell would you give him a jersey?!?

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    I would really like to know what front office people do with these jerseys they get at news conferences.[/quote]
    BTW the ’11’ if for how many times his name is on the Stanley Cup.

    Marlins are the “outhouse” of MLB uniforms? Look at the teams created in the last twenty years and I challenge you not to put the Marlins in the top 10 percent when it comes to nice digs.

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    [quote comment=”282832″]”Better off in L.A., where the home pants are piping-free (the Sox’s pants piping had accentuated his ultra-baggy look.”

    But the real question is, do they make snoods in Dodger Blue?[/quote]

    Excellent point! I’ll add that to the chart.

    Regarding the different shades of gray between the (un)Cool Base and teams’ regular pants: I would swear that I have seen a difference in the shades all season, particularly when the game is on TV in HD.

    And why does shade of the nasty armpit insert in the (un)Cool Base jerseys never match the color of the rest of the jersey? It makes me crazy.

    [quote comment=”282837″]Marlins are the “outhouse” of MLB uniforms? Look at the teams created in the last twenty years and I challenge you not to put the Marlins in the top 10 percent when it comes to nice digs.

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    As long as they keep teal, they’ll never be in the top 10 percent. (Top 10 percent of 30 teams, BTW, is three! They have the third best uni in baseball??)

    Although I agree, they’re not quite “outhouse.” Pretty horrible unis still.

    I received an email from Jeffrey Twiss – VP Media Relations/Alumni Relations a couple of days ago in response to my question about the banners, and to paraphrase the response was “I asked several people and no one really knows. I guess it is part of the Celtics mystique.” He might like to know this latest information.

    Will the 2008 banner be accurate or will it still be random?

    [quote comment=”282840″][quote comment=”282837″]Marlins are the “outhouse” of MLB uniforms? Look at the teams created in the last twenty years and I challenge you not to put the Marlins in the top 10 percent when it comes to nice digs.

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    As long as they keep teal, they’ll never be in the top 10 percent. (Top 10 percent of 30 teams, BTW, is three! They have the third best uni in baseball??)

    Although I agree, they’re not quite “outhouse.” Pretty horrible unis still.[/quote]

    Drop the teal (one of the worse colors ever), and go for more block lettering and they will improve greatly.

    I think the Marlin’s used to take BP in shorts often when they first came into the league, I don’t know if they still do.

    Tate Brock is about as baseball a name as you can get. That, combined with the socks… just sign the damn kid to a minor leauge contract now.

    [quote comment=”282843″]I think the Marlin’s used to take BP in shorts often when they first came into the league, I don’t know if they still do.[/quote]

    I’m surprised more teams don’t do that.

    I prefaced my comment by eliminating from my sample teams created more than twenty years ago. It’s not fair to compare a new team with teams created 100 years ago. Of course they’re going to have cornered the market on classic.

    As for the teal hatred, it’s not my favorite color. I’m a Marlins and Jaguars fan and I only own black or white t-shirts for both. But can’t we give some regional allowances for certain colors? I think teams in the state of Florida should get a pass on pastels like teams from Louisiana should get a pass on purple. Paul’s purple hatred aside, cannot you see that LSU looks okay in purple while the Rockies and Vikings look like clowns? It’s just like the Jags, Dolphins, and Marlins rocking teal well while the Hornets look out of place.

    [quote comment=”282846″]As for the teal hatred, it’s not my favorite color. I’m a Marlins and Jaguars fan and I only own black or white t-shirts for both. But can’t we give some regional allowances for certain colors? I think teams in the state of Florida should get a pass on pastels like teams from Louisiana should get a pass on purple. Paul’s purple hatred aside, cannot you see that LSU looks okay in purple while the Rockies and Vikings look like clowns? It’s just like the Jags, Dolphins, and Marlins rocking teal well while the Hornets look out of place.[/quote]

    The Vikings looked fine until they started messing with their shade of purple a few years ago. And it goes without saying that their current uniform in a wholesale disaster, regardless of the colors.

    [quote comment=”282846″]I prefaced my comment by eliminating from my sample teams created more than twenty years ago. It’s not fair to compare a new team with teams created 100 years ago. Of course they’re going to have cornered the market on classic.

    As for the teal hatred, it’s not my favorite color. I’m a Marlins and Jaguars fan and I only own black or white t-shirts for both. But can’t we give some regional allowances for certain colors? I think teams in the state of Florida should get a pass on pastels like teams from Louisiana should get a pass on purple. Paul’s purple hatred aside, cannot you see that LSU looks okay in purple while the Rockies and Vikings look like clowns? It’s just like the Jags, Dolphins, and Marlins rocking teal well while the Hornets look out of place.[/quote]

    I understand the teal/ocean reference, it’s just a color I have never liked and don’t like them on sports unis.

    Sad thing is, I had to play for a hockey team who’s jerseys were mainly teal. I was so ashamed all year long…. thankfully it was only a year.

    [quote comment=”282843″]I think the Marlin’s used to take BP in shorts often when they first came into the league, I don’t know if they still do.[/quote]

    Most, if not all, minor league teams do most of their pre-game practice in shorts. The problem is most stadiums don’t open the gates to fans until 1 hour before game time, so most minor league fans only get to see the players in their full uniforms.

    Must disagree with number six in the 10 Worst Sports Uniforms in Philadelphia. That Phillies look is classic in a retro style.

    What shoulda been added: Those fucking awful all-green disasters the Eagles wore in the 1997 MNF game against the Niners at the Vet and the 1994 throwbacks throwups with green pants and socks they had against the Packers.

    I don’t mind the teal; I just wish Florida wouldn’t use quadruple-layered lettering. Black, silver, teal, and white layers both at home and on the road — and the only non-neutral color there (teal) is used least prominently!

    At least the multiple layers make the NOBs look a little smaller. I like that effect.

    Regarding the Nuggets:

    They will also be adding the pick-axe above the players’ names on the back of both jerseys to match the dark blue alternate.

    Why, why, why are so many teams doing this now? The stupid logo above the NOB throws everything off balance! If you want to add some silly extraneous logo, put it under the number so that the logo and name frame the number, which is supposed to be the main thing on the player’s back. With the little logo, the name and number are pushed down, the stupid logo takes prominence away from the number, and the whole thing is out of whack. Ditch the above-NOB logos!

    [quote comment=”282842″][quote comment=”282840″][quote comment=”282837″]Marlins are the “outhouse” of MLB uniforms? Look at the teams created in the last twenty years and I challenge you not to put the Marlins in the top 10 percent when it comes to nice digs.

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    As long as they keep teal, they’ll never be in the top 10 percent. (Top 10 percent of 30 teams, BTW, is three! They have the third best uni in baseball??)

    Although I agree, they’re not quite “outhouse.” Pretty horrible unis still.[/quote]

    Drop the teal (one of the worse colors ever), and go for more block lettering and they will improve greatly.[/quote]

    I don’t mind teal. Plus the Marlins have mostly made it an accent color; it’s certainly not the dominant color it was in the early years of the franchise.

    [quote comment=”282851″]Must disagree with number six in the 10 Worst Sports Uniforms in Philadelphia. That Phillies look is classic in a retro style.

    What shoulda been added: Those fucking awful all-green disasters the Eagles wore in the 1997 MNF game against the Niners at the Vet and the 1994 throwbacks throwups with green pants and socks they had against the Packers.[/quote]

    The flare-gun game!

    [quote comment=”282851″]Must disagree with number six in the 10 Worst Sports Uniforms in Philadelphia. That Phillies look is classic in a retro style.

    What shoulda been added: Those fucking awful all-green disasters the Eagles wore in the 1997 MNF game against the Niners at the Vet and the 1994 throwbacks throwups with green pants and socks they had against the Packers.[/quote]
    I also disagree with the list regarding those early 70s Eagles. I always liked both that shade of green and the white helmet.

    [quote comment=”282853″][quote comment=”282842″][quote comment=”282840″][quote comment=”282837″]Marlins are the “outhouse” of MLB uniforms? Look at the teams created in the last twenty years and I challenge you not to put the Marlins in the top 10 percent when it comes to nice digs.

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    As long as they keep teal, they’ll never be in the top 10 percent. (Top 10 percent of 30 teams, BTW, is three! They have the third best uni in baseball??)

    Although I agree, they’re not quite “outhouse.” Pretty horrible unis still.[/quote]

    Drop the teal (one of the worse colors ever), and go for more block lettering and they will improve greatly.[/quote]

    I don’t mind teal. Plus the Marlins have mostly made it an accent color; it’s certainly not the dominant color it was in the early years of the franchise.[/quote]
    I agree, teal is fine as an accent color and their unis are worlds better than when they joined MLB and had those terrible teal batting helmets also the undershirts and vests too.

    [quote comment=”282853″][quote comment=”282842″][quote comment=”282840″][quote comment=”282837″]Marlins are the “outhouse” of MLB uniforms? Look at the teams created in the last twenty years and I challenge you not to put the Marlins in the top 10 percent when it comes to nice digs.

    link

    As long as they keep teal, they’ll never be in the top 10 percent. (Top 10 percent of 30 teams, BTW, is three! They have the third best uni in baseball??)

    Although I agree, they’re not quite “outhouse.” Pretty horrible unis still.[/quote]

    Drop the teal (one of the worse colors ever), and go for more block lettering and they will improve greatly.[/quote]

    I don’t mind teal. Plus the Marlins have mostly made it an accent color; it’s certainly not the dominant color it was in the early years of the franchise.[/quote]

    No matter how unfortunate that may be. The Marlins need to drop dominant black like a crystal meth habit.

    [quote comment=”282846″]I prefaced my comment by eliminating from my sample teams created more than twenty years ago. It’s not fair to compare a new team with teams created 100 years ago. Of course they’re going to have cornered the market on classic.

    As for the teal hatred, it’s not my favorite color. I’m a Marlins and Jaguars fan and I only own black or white t-shirts for both. But can’t we give some regional allowances for certain colors? I think teams in the state of Florida should get a pass on pastels like teams from Louisiana should get a pass on purple. Paul’s purple hatred aside, cannot you see that LSU looks okay in purple while the Rockies and Vikings look like clowns? It’s just like the Jags, Dolphins, and Marlins rocking teal well while the Hornets look out of place.[/quote]

    I’ll give them more than just a pass on the teal – they should stop eliminating it.

    When they first unveiled their uniforms, they were beautiful. Since then, they’ve been slowly bastardizing them, making them uglier one step at a time.

    [quote comment=”282832″]”Better off in L.A., where the home pants are piping-free (the Sox’s pants piping had accentuated his ultra-baggy look.”

    But the real question is, do they make snoods in Dodger Blue?[/quote]

    If anything, that Red Sox piping cut the space in two, vertically speaking. In those unstriped Dodger whites Manny could look his pants are made out of two sails from Ted Turner’s boat.

    Why no mention of Harden from the A’s to the Cubs? It is a day more recent than the CC trade.

    [quote comment=”282861″]According to Dodgers’ website, Man Ram will be wearing #28…

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    Hey, Pete Guerrero’s old number. Maybe it was actually his IQ…

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    What’s the matter with teal?
    You shoulda been around 50-some years ago.
    It was a red and blue world, with a little orange and black thrown in. And those Braves and Cardinals with two-tone hats!!! Pretty exotic.

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    That St. Paul’s Saints promotion was done to honour the passing of Mr. Charles Schulz who passed away in 2000. Schulz was born on November 26, 1922, in St. Paul, Minnesota. The Saints also gave away link of Charlie Brown on the mound that night.

    Mr. Schulz was the cartoonist who drew the Peanuts comic strip, and passed away in February 2000.

    I doubt that this promotion will ever see the light of day again due to the memorial it served, Paul.

    [quote comment=”282846″]I prefaced my comment by eliminating from my sample teams created more than twenty years ago. It’s not fair to compare a new team with teams created 100 years ago. Of course they’re going to have cornered the market on classic.

    As for the teal hatred, it’s not my favorite color. I’m a Marlins and Jaguars fan and I only own black or white t-shirts for both. But can’t we give some regional allowances for certain colors? I think teams in the state of Florida should get a pass on pastels like teams from Louisiana should get a pass on purple. Paul’s purple hatred aside, cannot you see that LSU looks okay in purple while the Rockies and Vikings look like clowns? It’s just like the Jags, Dolphins, and Marlins rocking teal well while the Hornets look out of place.[/quote]

    So because something is old it is good and because something is new it is bad??? That’s just dumb. A lot of old uniform really suck but beacuse they’ve been around a while people call them “classic” (what ever that is supposed to mean).

    [quote comment=”282865″]That St. Paul Saints… (etc, etc)[/quote]

    Sorry… fixed the “St. Paul Saints” error.

    [quote comment=”282865″]That St. Paul’s Saints promotion was done to honour the passing of Mr. Charles Schulz who passed away in 2000. Schulz was born on November 26, 1922, in St. Paul, Minnesota. The Saints also gave away link of Charlie Brown on the mound that night.

    Mr. Schulz was the cartoonist who drew the Peanuts comic strip, and passed away in February 2000.

    I doubt that this promotion will ever see the light of day again due to the memorial it served, Paul.[/quote]

    Gotcha. Didn’t realize it was a memorial — thought it was one of the Saints’ typically wacky promotions.

    I’m off to the dentist, and then to run some errands, so no more comments today from me. See you next week!

    [quote comment=”282865″]That St. Paul’s Saints promotion was done to honour the passing of Mr. Charles Schulz who passed away in 2000. Schulz was born on November 26, 1922, in St. Paul, Minnesota. The Saints also gave away link of Charlie Brown on the mound that night.

    Mr. Schulz was the cartoonist who drew the Peanuts comic strip, and passed away in February 2000.

    I doubt that this promotion will ever see the light of day again due to the memorial it served, Paul.[/quote]
    Your link is of a Padres’ camo jersey

    [quote comment=”282863″][quote comment=”282861″]According to Dodgers’ website, Man Ram will be wearing #28…

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    Hey, Pete Guerrero’s old number. Maybe it was actually his IQ…

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    And for those who just dropped in, Manny can’t wear #24, since it was retired for manager link

    “Regional allowances for certain colors”?

    Absolutely. Positively. Shouldn’t be a debatable point.

    If ever a team could have come into MLB using, say, Orange as its primary color and, oh, Maroon accents and with lots of white in their unis (maybe even white shoes) it would have been a team in Miami or St. Pete.

    A team from Toronto or Seattle showing up with those colors? No, don’t think so.

    As to the Vikings’ purple, back then it was simply wanting to come into the NFL with a color no one else wore. Plus, it does have a bit of a nod toward the Gophers maroon and gold. Kinda that combination moved…diagonally.

    —Ricko

    Actually, most every team in the Northwest League, California League, and any other Class A league wear shorts during BP. It’s a super common practice.

    I was more stunned to see the Mariners’ described as a “penthouse” uni. Weren’t they the team that started the whole muted color blandness trend? If you mean penthouse as in a corporate board meeting then I can see it.

    FWIW, I thought the Marlins looked far better when teal was their dominant color. Compare the ’97 champs to the ’03 champs. The ’97s look so much sharper. Teal is not a meaningless color for a Miami team… the waters of Biscayne Bay often take on a tealish hue. It’s their black that doesn’t make sense.

    According to Espn first take Manny will wear 99 with the Dodgers. The team had originally chose 28 for him because it was the closest they had to 24, but Many told them he wanted 99. As they say, thats Manny being Manny. That number is sure gonna look weird, especially on someone who isnt a pitcher. I got used to it as a pitcher’s number after watching Turk Wendell for those few seasons.

    I’ve read the Fatsis book — very entertaining, well worth buying. That said, however, it’s no Paper Lion, which just goes to show how great Paper Lion is.

    [quote comment=”282869″][quote comment=”282865″]That St. Paul’s Saints promotion was done to honour the passing of Mr. Charles Schulz who passed away in 2000. Schulz was born on November 26, 1922, in St. Paul, Minnesota. The Saints also gave away link of Charlie Brown on the mound that night.

    Mr. Schulz was the cartoonist who drew the Peanuts comic strip, and passed away in February 2000.

    I doubt that this promotion will ever see the light of day again due to the memorial it served, Paul.[/quote]
    Your link is of a Padres’ camo jersey[/quote]

    Damned Ebay and the ending of auctions. :o)

    It’s fixed above. Sorry ’bout dat!

    [quote comment=”282876″][quote comment=”282869″][quote comment=”282865″]That St. Paul’s Saints promotion was done to honour the passing of Mr. Charles Schulz who passed away in 2000. Schulz was born on November 26, 1922, in St. Paul, Minnesota. The Saints also gave away link of Charlie Brown on the mound that night.

    Mr. Schulz was the cartoonist who drew the Peanuts comic strip, and passed away in February 2000.

    I doubt that this promotion will ever see the light of day again due to the memorial it served, Paul.[/quote]
    Your link is of a Padres’ camo jersey[/quote]

    Damned Ebay and the ending of auctions. :o)

    It’s fixed above. Sorry ’bout dat![/quote]
    No prob teebz, I just wanted to see the bobblehead

    Correct, the Marlins wore black shorts with teal BP jerseys in their first year or two of existence. And as a Marlins fan with a black Marlins jersey and a 1997 vest jersey (Teal lettering and pinstripes), I have always liked the jerseys and Florida’s uniforms. I’m glad they switched the road jerseys from the weird link and have gone to a more normal link.

    I have all three hats too…the all teal, the teal with black brim, and the all black!

    Go FISH!!!!!

    [quote comment=”282874″]According to Espn first take Manny will wear 99 with the Dodgers. The team had originally chose 28 for him because it was the closest they had to 24, but Many told them he wanted 99. As they say, thats Manny being Manny. That number is sure gonna look weird, especially on someone who isnt a pitcher. I got used to it as a pitcher’s number after watching Turk Wendell for those few seasons.[/quote]
    Damn, I was going to suggest yesterday that Manny would probably pick some way-out number. Much like Rodman during the 90s, Manny seems to get weirder by the minute.

    Why are bright colors wrong? If Marlins looked bad in teal hats, etc., then by the brightness criterion the Phillies and Red and Cardinals must look just ad crappy…for the same reason.

    Color is just too damn bright. Not tough, macho, testosteronal enough. Is that the deal these days?

    Probably rules out kelly green and orange, too.

    If so, then reference the general sameness of MLB in ’55 that I posted earlier, and check out all the visual “excitement” (imagine pairing them two-by-two for the proper effect).

    Not suggesting a return the 70’s (Heaven forbid) but a little color is fun, and doesn’t make the team a punch of wusses. Have any idea how different things look in the Metrodome when Angels play there, the one time all year a team comes in with a bright color throughout their uni? Rest of the time is just…visually sleep-inducing.

    I will say one thing, stirrups (with or without stripes) made a HUGE difference in ’55 and such. Imagine how god-awful dull that bunch of unis would be with all players in shoe-length pants. Ugh.

    [quote comment=”282879″][quote comment=”282874″]According to Espn first take Manny will wear 99 with the Dodgers. The team had originally chose 28 for him because it was the closest they had to 24, but Many told them he wanted 99. As they say, thats Manny being Manny. That number is sure gonna look weird, especially on someone who isnt a pitcher. I got used to it as a pitcher’s number after watching Turk Wendell for those few seasons.[/quote]
    Damn, I was going to suggest yesterday that Manny would probably pick some way-out number. Much like Rodman during the 90s, Manny seems to get weirder by the minute.[/quote]

    Is 99 really that weird? I’d probably pick 64 or 83 or something like that. Those seem weirder to me.

    “I will say one thing, stirrups (with or without stripes) made a HUGE difference in ‘55 and such. Imagine how god-awful dull that bunch of unis would be with all players in shoe-length pants. Ugh.”

    Oh, wait, that’s kinda what we have now, isn’t it.

    —Ricko

    I hope that isn’t correct. Dallas comes into Fed Ex late in the season…I hope that the Skins will go white on burgundy then, and keep Dallas from wearing their white and silver…er, um bluish gray…pants, like we’ve always done at home.

    [quote comment=”282881″][quote comment=”282879″][quote comment=”282874″]According to Espn first take Manny will wear 99 with the Dodgers. The team had originally chose 28 for him because it was the closest they had to 24, but Many told them he wanted 99. As they say, thats Manny being Manny. That number is sure gonna look weird, especially on someone who isnt a pitcher. I got used to it as a pitcher’s number after watching Turk Wendell for those few seasons.[/quote]
    Damn, I was going to suggest yesterday that Manny would probably pick some way-out number. Much like Rodman during the 90s, Manny seems to get weirder by the minute.[/quote]

    Is 99 really that weird? I’d probably pick 64 or 83 or something like that. Those seem weirder to me.[/quote]
    I still regard #99 as weird, at least in baseball, and especially for a 15 year vet like Manny. Of course, I remember when it was a big deal that Dave Heaverlo wore #60 with the Giants in the 70s.

    The very definition of going from the penthouse to the outhouse, at least in uni terms.
    Might I also add in stadium terms?

    Nice to see my M’s uniforms are being called nice. I’ve always liked them, especially after the “Northwest Green” (fancy name for teal) was removed from the hats.

    Some day we uniform-number traditionalists need to get a petition going to make baseball number the players like they do in international soccer: the 40-man roster gets numbers 1-40, no exceptions, no retired numbers. If there are injuries and callups and the like, then they can start handing out 41, 42, 43, etc. #60 looks hideous on a baseball player, and these days with the Yankees people have to endure even higher numbers against their will. Cleanest, classiest uniform in sports, with the unclassiest numbers. If “honoring” your past greats means saddling today’s players with linebacker numbers, then they need to find another way to honor people.

    Bummer, I thought Manny chose 28 to honor another former Indian outfielder that ended up in Dodger Blue…

    link

    Early reports were that Junior would wear #17 with the White Sox, but now it turns out that Griffey will wear #30 during his (mercifully) brief stay on the South Side, and link.

    [quote comment=”282888″]Bummer, I thought Manny chose 28 to honor another former Indian outfielder that ended up in Dodger Blue…

    link

    “Manny THOUGHT”?

    That would not be Manny being Manny.

    So who these trades is going to look “oddest” in new uni.

    I’m guessing Manny. Dodgers uni is most dif. from anything he’s worn in past.

    2nd place? Teixeira, probably.

    [quote comment=”282887″]Some day we uniform-number traditionalists need to get a petition going to make baseball number the players like they do in international soccer: the 40-man roster gets numbers 1-40, no exceptions, no retired numbers. If there are injuries and callups and the like, then they can start handing out 41, 42, 43, etc. #60 looks hideous on a baseball player, and these days with the Yankees people have to endure even higher numbers against their will. Cleanest, classiest uniform in sports, with the unclassiest numbers. If “honoring” your past greats means saddling today’s players with linebacker numbers, then they need to find another way to honor people.[/quote]
    As Balki once said on Perfect Strangers… “get out of the city Cousin Larry”

    Aside from the Yanks, Dodgers and Cards, I don’t think there are any teams that have more than 10 numbers retired right now so I don’t think retiring of numbers takes THAT many digits out of consideration.

    That’s a boring, uncreative idea. I am against there being any kind of official numbering system in MLB. I’m for less restrictions, not more.

    How do you consider yourself a “traditionalist” when you want to erase tradition? I mean do you really think there are any Yanks worthy of wearing 3, 4, or 7?

    Although I’m a “Reagan Youth” and grow up with the game in the early 80s when numbers 50 and above were rare, I’ve gotten used to players wearing high numbers with regularity.

    Holy crap!!! The Folly Floater game!!!! I’m there with some friends someplace in the crowd above the Indian’s dugout (we could always bribe a YS usher). That day remains the most fun I’ve ever had in a ballpark. It was a link and in addition to the Hamilton-Horton thing there was a huge fight at home plate between Stan Bahnsen and Vada Pinson after a play at home plate with Bahnsen covering. Some joker threw a cherry bomb out of the upper deck and it exploded near home plate causing Ray Fosse (and about 30,000 other folks) to jump about three feet in the air. And last but not least Bobby Murcer hit four consecutive homers (sandwiched around a walk). Thanks for that footage

    According to the Sacramento Bee blog on the 49ers the defensive player with the radio receiver will get a red dot instead of a green one (at least it will match for the Niners).

    [quote comment=”282871″]”Regional allowances for certain colors”?

    Absolutely. Positively. Shouldn’t be a debatable point.

    If ever a team could have come into MLB using, say, Orange as its primary color and, oh, Maroon accents and with lots of white in their unis (maybe even white shoes) it would have been a team in Miami or St. Pete.

    A team from Toronto or Seattle showing up with those colors? No, don’t think so.

    As to the Vikings’ purple, back then it was simply wanting to come into the NFL with a color no one else wore. Plus, it does have a bit of a nod toward the Gophers maroon and gold. Kinda that combination moved…diagonally.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Not on the field, but Marlins do use a lot of orange in their licensed merchandise. Probably has something to do with the massive amounts of orange in the home stadium.

    link

    [quote comment=”282897″][quote comment=”282871″]”Regional allowances for certain colors”?

    Absolutely. Positively. Shouldn’t be a debatable point.

    If ever a team could have come into MLB using, say, Orange as its primary color and, oh, Maroon accents and with lots of white in their unis (maybe even white shoes) it would have been a team in Miami or St. Pete.

    A team from Toronto or Seattle showing up with those colors? No, don’t think so.

    As to the Vikings’ purple, back then it was simply wanting to come into the NFL with a color no one else wore. Plus, it does have a bit of a nod toward the Gophers maroon and gold. Kinda that combination moved…diagonally.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Not on the field, but Marlins do use a lot of orange in their licensed merchandise. Probably has something to do with the massive amounts of orange in the home stadium.

    link

    Fixed Link
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    [quote comment=”282886″]Minus the new design, the SJ Sharks look fucking great in teal.[/quote]

    I’ve said this before here, i think the sharks would look awesome if you replace the teal with gray. Have gray and black be their colors, that’d be one of the better unis in the league. I’m no photoshop wizard, but if someone could do that, I’d love to see it.

    [quote comment=”282838″][quote comment=”282832″]”Better off in L.A., where the home pants are piping-free (the Sox’s pants piping had accentuated his ultra-baggy look.”

    But the real question is, do they make snoods in Dodger Blue?[/quote]

    Excellent point! I’ll add that to the chart.[/quote]

    Forget the snood! My question is, “How long will it take Manny to mess up his beautiful Dodger Blue batting helmet with pine tar?”

    [quote comment=”282900″]I was looking forward to the LaRoche FNOB possibilities but… link[/quote]
    He’s wrong about the Bautistas though right? Denny was wearing “D.”

    Also, I found the comments interesting about people being upset about them issuing Bay’s #38 so soon. Never really thought of that as being a slap in the face but can see how some might perceive it that way.

    [quote comment=”282902″]Sorry, not sure if this is a repeat: I did not know Shockey had to change his number-
    link

    Probably his choice. If I recall correctly, Shockey was #88 at Univ. of Miami (FL), but when he was drafted by the Giants, he couldn’t take Ike Hilliard’s number, so he took #80. (It’s “something else,” and it has the same contour as 88.) No such problem with the Saints, apparently.

    [quote comment=”282887″]Some day we uniform-number traditionalists need to get a petition going to make baseball number the players like they do in international soccer: the 40-man roster gets numbers 1-40, no exceptions, no retired numbers. If there are injuries and callups and the like, then they can start handing out 41, 42, 43, etc. #60 looks hideous on a baseball player, and these days with the Yankees people have to endure even higher numbers against their will. Cleanest, classiest uniform in sports, with the unclassiest numbers. If “honoring” your past greats means saddling today’s players with linebacker numbers, then they need to find another way to honor people.[/quote]

    I’d prefer if baseball took absolutely no ideas from international soccer. How about instead soccer adopts some of MLB’s ideas…

    …Is this for real? The Steelers are using red jerseys for practice? I always thuoght they wore yellow…..

    link

    That’s probably the no contact jersey so Ben doesn’t get his brains scrambled. Pretty hilarious they’re selling that, though.

    [quote comment=”282907″]…Is this for real? The Steelers are using red jerseys for practice? I always thuoght they wore yellow…..

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    Quarterbacks traditionally get the red “Don’t touch me” jerseys. Exceptions include red teams such as the 49ers (black for no contact) and the Chiefs (yellow).
    /I cannot believe the NFL is actually selling link jerseys.

    Hi, long time voyer but first time poster. I prefer the Eagles with green helmets, and the white helmets do look terrible with the green jersey, but when they went all white it was really quite good looking.

    [quote comment=”282909″][quote comment=”282907″]…Is this for real? The Steelers are using red jerseys for practice? I always thuoght they wore yellow…..

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    Quarterbacks traditionally get the red “Don’t touch me” jerseys. Exceptions include red teams such as the 49ers (black for no contact) and the Chiefs (yellow).
    /I cannot believe the NFL is actually selling link jerseys.[/quote]

    The Skins wear yellow with burgundy numbers as well….I see there are a few other practice jerseys as well…just another way to make a buck.

    link

    Though the NFL Shop does sell a Skins practice jersey….they ain’t wearing them:

    link

    and the Steelers use white for QBs…..

    link

    [quote comment=”282909″][quote comment=”282907″]…Is this for real? The Steelers are using red jerseys for practice? I always thuoght they wore yellow…..

    link
    Quarterbacks traditionally get the red “Don’t touch me” jerseys. Exceptions include red teams such as the 49ers (black for no contact) and the Chiefs (yellow).
    /I cannot believe the NFL is actually selling link jerseys.[/quote]
    Sorry to quote myself, but…
    Just saw the “red QB” jersey link on NFLShop.com. They’re not even right. Compare link to link. Uh, different?
    The red Eli jersey: a total waste of $75. If you must have a red Eli jersey, why not get the replica alternate? That they’ll actually wear at home against the Cowboys? Without the NY logo on the sleeves?
    No patch on the Vince Young jersey. “Too bad.”
    OK, let’s talk about something more interesting, yet uni relevant.

    [quote comment=”282900″]I was looking forward to the LaRoche FNOB possibilities but… link[/quote]

    Why are the Pirates handing out #39 to Brandon Moss, that should be retired or at least held for All-Star caliber players

    [quote comment=”282895″]Holy crap!!! The Folly Floater game!!!! I’m there with some friends someplace in the crowd above the Indian’s dugout (we could always bribe a YS usher). That day remains the most fun I’ve ever had in a ballpark. It was a link and in addition to the Hamilton-Horton thing there was a huge fight at home plate between Stan Bahnsen and Vada Pinson after a play at home plate with Bahnsen covering. Some joker threw a cherry bomb out of the upper deck and it exploded near home plate causing Ray Fosse (and about 30,000 other folks) to jump about three feet in the air. And last but not least Bobby Murcer hit four consecutive homers (sandwiched around a walk). Thanks for that footage[/quote]

    On the same page as the Hamilton video was this:
    link
    Just dropped it in honor of his sons becoming teammates!

    [quote comment=”282914″][quote comment=”282900″]I was looking forward to the LaRoche FNOB possibilities but… link[/quote]

    Why are the Pirates handing out #39 to Brandon Moss, that should be retired or at least held for All-Star caliber players[/quote]
    Then what? Reserve #24 for lefties who can’t throw for sh*t? link

    [quote comment=”282893″]Maybe this Manny will be the LA Manny?

    link

    Seeing this timeline, apparently Manny wasn’t always Manny.

    [quote comment=”282906″][quote comment=”282887″]Some day we uniform-number traditionalists need to get a petition going to make baseball number the players like they do in international soccer: the 40-man roster gets numbers 1-40, no exceptions, no retired numbers. If there are injuries and callups and the like, then they can start handing out 41, 42, 43, etc. #60 looks hideous on a baseball player, and these days with the Yankees people have to endure even higher numbers against their will. Cleanest, classiest uniform in sports, with the unclassiest numbers. If “honoring” your past greats means saddling today’s players with linebacker numbers, then they need to find another way to honor people.[/quote]

    I’d prefer if baseball took absolutely no ideas from international soccer. How about instead soccer adopts some of MLB’s ideas…[/quote]

    Like what? Managers in uniform? Pants to the shoetops? A DH?

    [quote comment=”282913″][quote comment=”282909″][quote comment=”282907″]…Is this for real? The Steelers are using red jerseys for practice? I always thuoght they wore yellow…..

    link
    Quarterbacks traditionally get the red “Don’t touch me” jerseys. Exceptions include red teams such as the 49ers (black for no contact) and the Chiefs (yellow).
    /I cannot believe the NFL is actually selling link jerseys.[/quote]
    Sorry to quote myself, but…
    Just saw the “red QB” jersey link on NFLShop.com. They’re not even right. Compare link to link. Uh, different?
    The red Eli jersey: a total waste of $75. If you must have a red Eli jersey, why not get the replica alternate? That they’ll actually wear at home against the Cowboys? Without the NY logo on the sleeves?
    No patch on the Vince Young jersey. “Too bad.”
    OK, let’s talk about something more interesting, yet uni relevant.[/quote]

    Seen the Chargers QB training camp jerseys? Red with white shoulder yokes and bolts, the whole nine yards. Looks really odd, but…interesting.

    (Seeing as I employed the phrase, I might as well ask if anyone knows where “the whole nine yards” comes from? I’ve heard one story, curious to learn if there are others).

    [quote comment=”282907″]…Is this for real? The Steelers are using red jerseys for practice? I always thuoght they wore yellow…..

    link
    Well, QBs tend to wear red in practice.

    However, a few things, photos on the following two pages show Ben in a standard white issue practice jersey

    link
    link

    Second, the style of that jersey isn’t what the Steelers appear to be using in practice. The real practice jerseys are a breathable mesh. The jersey for sale looks like the same material as a sstandard reebok replica.

    I don’t think the last names are on the Steelers’ practice jerseys either. (How many/if any teams do this?)

    One other thought I forgot to mention until now.
    If Manny’s really going to go for #99, then he can finally match link. Would be an unconventional tribute in that Lmontro is not a fellow athlete, let alone baseball player.
    (Yes, I suppose that would be MANNY saluting a barber. Wouldn’t that be like Ray Charles endorsing a car?)

    [quote comment=”282919″][quote comment=”282913″][quote comment=”282909″][quote comment=”282907″]…Is this for real? The Steelers are using red jerseys for practice? I always thuoght they wore yellow…..

    link
    Quarterbacks traditionally get the red “Don’t touch me” jerseys. Exceptions include red teams such as the 49ers (black for no contact) and the Chiefs (yellow).
    /I cannot believe the NFL is actually selling link jerseys.[/quote]
    Sorry to quote myself, but…
    Just saw the “red QB” jersey link on NFLShop.com. They’re not even right. Compare link to link. Uh, different?
    The red Eli jersey: a total waste of $75. If you must have a red Eli jersey, why not get the replica alternate? That they’ll actually wear at home against the Cowboys? Without the NY logo on the sleeves?
    No patch on the Vince Young jersey. “Too bad.”
    OK, let’s talk about something more interesting, yet uni relevant.[/quote]

    Seen the Chargers QB training camp jerseys? Red with white shoulder yokes and bolts, the whole nine yards. Looks really odd, but…interesting.

    (Seeing as I employed the phrase, I might as well ask if anyone knows where “the whole nine yards” comes from? I’ve heard one story, curious to learn if there are others).[/quote]
    I remember hearing it was from WWII, where the P-51 mustang had 9 yard so ammo per gun (or total), so if you used the whole 9 yards, you were going all the way. Not sure if that’s true or not.

    That’s what I heard, too. Belt was 27 feet long, so you got back from a mission with an empty belt you “gave ’em the whole nine yards.”

    The Ravens just started using the red no-contact jerseys this year under Coach Harbaugh. They also are using purple (defense) and white (offense) jerseys that are pretty close to their regular jerseys except for the screen printed numbers. Under Billick, they used generic practice jerseys that looked like a high school gym class.

    I am assuming since the NFL is selling the practice jerseys, they are pushing more teams to use them. Just like the baseball’s spring training jersey’s and hats.

    Just reading a quote from David Akers saying the jersey they originally ordered had Truax on the back. A quick fix may explain the different font.

    [quote comment=”282894″][quote comment=”282887″]Some day we uniform-number traditionalists need to get a petition going to make baseball number the players like they do in international soccer: the 40-man roster gets numbers 1-40, no exceptions, no retired numbers. If there are injuries and callups and the like, then they can start handing out 41, 42, 43, etc. #60 looks hideous on a baseball player, and these days with the Yankees people have to endure even higher numbers against their will. Cleanest, classiest uniform in sports, with the unclassiest numbers. If “honoring” your past greats means saddling today’s players with linebacker numbers, then they need to find another way to honor people.[/quote]
    As Balki once said on Perfect Strangers… “get out of the city Cousin Larry”

    Aside from the Yanks, Dodgers and Cards, I don’t think there are any teams that have more than 10 numbers retired right now so I don’t think retiring of numbers takes THAT many digits out of consideration.

    That’s a boring, uncreative idea. I am against there being any kind of official numbering system in MLB. I’m for less restrictions, not more.

    How do you consider yourself a “traditionalist” when you want to erase tradition? I mean do you really think there are any Yanks worthy of wearing 3, 4, or 7?

    Although I’m a “Reagan Youth” and grow up with the game in the early 80s when numbers 50 and above were rare, I’ve gotten used to players wearing high numbers with regularity.[/quote]

    Agreed. And since when are numbers “unclassy?” Also, I’m sick of this idea that “The rest of the world does it this way so America should also.” This country was founded on, among other things, a principle of individulaity. The day this country goes along just to get along will be a sad day. It’s probably the same reason I can’t stand the growing “globalisim” of our major sports. Playing games overseas and takling them away from the real fans at home. Who cares f someone on London likes american football? It’s our game At the same time I would expect or demand that the EPL start playing regular season games in the USA.

    [quote comment=”282928″][quote comment=”282894″][quote comment=”282887″]Some day we uniform-number traditionalists need to get a petition going to make baseball number the players like they do in international soccer: the 40-man roster gets numbers 1-40, no exceptions, no retired numbers. If there are injuries and callups and the like, then they can start handing out 41, 42, 43, etc. #60 looks hideous on a baseball player, and these days with the Yankees people have to endure even higher numbers against their will. Cleanest, classiest uniform in sports, with the unclassiest numbers. If “honoring” your past greats means saddling today’s players with linebacker numbers, then they need to find another way to honor people.[/quote]
    As Balki once said on Perfect Strangers… “get out of the city Cousin Larry”

    Aside from the Yanks, Dodgers and Cards, I don’t think there are any teams that have more than 10 numbers retired right now so I don’t think retiring of numbers takes THAT many digits out of consideration.

    That’s a boring, uncreative idea. I am against there being any kind of official numbering system in MLB. I’m for less restrictions, not more.

    How do you consider yourself a “traditionalist” when you want to erase tradition? I mean do you really think there are any Yanks worthy of wearing 3, 4, or 7?

    Although I’m a “Reagan Youth” and grow up with the game in the early 80s when numbers 50 and above were rare, I’ve gotten used to players wearing high numbers with regularity.[/quote]

    Agreed. And since when are numbers “unclassy?” Also, I’m sick of this idea that “The rest of the world does it this way so America should also.” This country was founded on, among other things, a principle of individulaity. The day this country goes along just to get along will be a sad day. It’s probably the same reason I can’t stand the growing “globalisim” of our major sports. Playing games overseas and takling them away from the real fans at home. Who cares f someone on London likes american football? It’s our game At the same time I would expect or demand that the EPL start playing regular season games in the USA.[/quote]

    That’s “would not expect or demand” of course.

    [quote comment=\”282912\”]Though the NFL Shop does sell a Skins practice jersey….they ain\’t wearing them:

    link

    and the Steelers use white for QBs…..

    link

    The Steelers use white for offense and gold for defense.
    And Big Ben just doesnt have a different jersey.

    Not going to make a comment on Farnsworth’s deceivingly long name? Or the fact that he’s going from one of the two iconic AL uniforms to another (I think they’re the longest standing home uniform designs, but maybe not…)

    [quote comment=”282928″][quote comment=”282894″][quote comment=”282887″]Some day we uniform-number traditionalists need to get a petition going to make baseball number the players like they do in international soccer: the 40-man roster gets numbers 1-40, no exceptions, no retired numbers. If there are injuries and callups and the like, then they can start handing out 41, 42, 43, etc. #60 looks hideous on a baseball player, and these days with the Yankees people have to endure even higher numbers against their will. Cleanest, classiest uniform in sports, with the unclassiest numbers. If “honoring” your past greats means saddling today’s players with linebacker numbers, then they need to find another way to honor people.[/quote]
    As Balki once said on Perfect Strangers… “get out of the city Cousin Larry”

    Aside from the Yanks, Dodgers and Cards, I don’t think there are any teams that have more than 10 numbers retired right now so I don’t think retiring of numbers takes THAT many digits out of consideration.

    That’s a boring, uncreative idea. I am against there being any kind of official numbering system in MLB. I’m for less restrictions, not more.

    How do you consider yourself a “traditionalist” when you want to erase tradition? I mean do you really think there are any Yanks worthy of wearing 3, 4, or 7?

    Although I’m a “Reagan Youth” and grow up with the game in the early 80s when numbers 50 and above were rare, I’ve gotten used to players wearing high numbers with regularity.[/quote]

    Agreed. And since when are numbers “unclassy?” Also, I’m sick of this idea that “The rest of the world does it this way so America should also.” This country was founded on, among other things, a principle of individulaity. The day this country goes along just to get along will be a sad day. It’s probably the same reason I can’t stand the growing “globalisim” of our major sports. Playing games overseas and takling them away from the real fans at home. Who cares f someone on London likes american football? It’s our game At the same time I would expect or demand that the EPL start playing regular season games in the USA.[/quote]

    I, too, do not understand why higher numbers are automatically bad.

    I think of 72 as a great baseball number. Those divisible by 10: 60, 70, 80- all cool. 55 is a good one too.

    Yeah, something like 68 may seem random and goofy.

    [quote comment=”282930″][quote comment=\”282912\”]Though the NFL Shop does sell a Skins practice jersey….they ain\’t wearing them:

    link

    and the Steelers use white for QBs…..

    link

    The Steelers use white for offense and gold for defense.
    And Big Ben just doesnt have a different jersey.[/quote]

    These practice jerseys are a terrible idea that is terribly executed. The Bengals quarterbacks wear orange no contact jerseys and the number font is traditional block style not the more rounded one that appears on the game unis. Despite all this….

    link

    Yeah, that’s pretty close. Nice work, NFL…

    [quote comment=”282936″][quote comment=”282930″][quote comment=\”282912\”]Though the NFL Shop does sell a Skins practice jersey….they ain\’t wearing them:

    link

    and the Steelers use white for QBs…..

    link

    The Steelers use white for offense and gold for defense.
    And Big Ben just doesnt have a different jersey.[/quote]

    These practice jerseys are a terrible idea that is terribly executed. The Bengals quarterbacks wear orange no contact jerseys and the number font is traditional block style not the more rounded one that appears on the game unis. Despite all this….

    link

    Yeah, that’s pretty close. Nice work, NFL…[/quote]
    No practice jersey available for the Niners but they do have this…
    link

    What, exactly, that is I’m not sure.

    The Hockey news has relased a ranking for the NHL logos…

    link

    NJ should be alot higher
    WAS should be higher
    MIN should be lower
    STL should be lower

    Here’s your weekend imponderable.

    In the full, long version of Abbott and Costello’s “Who’s on First?”, the only position never mentioned is right field.

    Is it something mystic? Or perhaps because in childhood games right field traditionally was patrolled by the fat kid, the kid who took violin lessons or (from THE BAD NEWS BEARS) a “booger-eating moron”?

    Why no RF?

    One story tells of the baseball fan who arrived in Heaven to find Bud and Lou doing their classic routine with their team deployed behind them. The newly arrived soul looked out to right field and gasped, “I didn’t know HE was dead.”

    “Oh, he isn’t,” said a nearby fan who’d entered the Pearly Gates a few days earlier. “That’s God…he just THINKS he’s Reggie Jackson.”

    [quote comment=”282874″]“That number [99] is sure gonna look weird, especially on someone who isn’t a pitcher.”[/quote]

    So Taguchi of the Phillies objects, sir.

    [quote comment=”282938″]The Hockey news has relased a ranking for the NHL logos…

    link

    NJ should be alot higher
    WAS should be higher
    MIN should be lower
    STL should be lower[/quote]
    Well, at least they got #1 right. Until the PC crowd take that one away, that will not only be the best hockey logo, but one of the best in all of sports.

    I would agree with you that NJ should be higher and MIN should be lower. I’m OK with STL being as high as they are. I think a lot of the older (Original Six and Class of ’67) logos are in because of the classic, instant recognition factor.

    For instance, the NYR logo does nothing for me aesthetically. It’s OK, but not great. From an art standpoint, I think FLA is MUCH better logo.

    Of course I’m biased, but I put PIT above SJ. The Sharks pretty stole the triangle from the Pens (and it has actual meaning when you look at the geography of Pittsburgh, it’s not simply a design element).

    Now I’d like to see a defunct team list, so I can see the likes of the Whalers (one of my faves), Jets, Rockies, Scouts, Seals, etc.

    Packers IIRC have white for offense, green for defense and both red and yellow for QBs.

    [quote comment=”282910″]Hi, long time voyer but first time poster. I prefer the Eagles with green helmets, and the white helmets do look terrible with the green jersey, but when they went all white it was really quite good looking.[/quote]

    Agreed.

    [quote comment=”282942″][quote comment=”282938″]The Hockey news has relased a ranking for the NHL logos…

    link

    NJ should be alot higher
    WAS should be higher
    MIN should be lower
    STL should be lower[/quote]
    Well, at least they got #1 right. Until the PC crowd take that one away, that will not only be the best hockey logo, but one of the best in all of sports.

    I would agree with you that NJ should be higher and MIN should be lower. I’m OK with STL being as high as they are. I think a lot of the older (Original Six and Class of ’67) logos are in because of the classic, instant recognition factor.

    For instance, the NYR logo does nothing for me aesthetically. It’s OK, but not great. From an art standpoint, I think FLA is MUCH better logo.

    Of course I’m biased, but I put PIT above SJ. The Sharks pretty stole the triangle from the Pens (and it has actual meaning when you look at the geography of Pittsburgh, it’s not simply a design element).

    Now I’d like to see a defunct team list, so I can see the likes of the Whalers (one of my faves), Jets, Rockies, Scouts, Seals, etc.[/quote]

    I agree that NYR does not have that good of a logo, but they do have one of th best unis. But that’s a whole different debate.

    And a smuch as I hate having an NHL franchise in southern flordia, they do have a good logo.

    Out of the defunct teams, Winnepeg Jets and Minnesota North Stars are my favorites.

    [quote comment=”282924″]http://tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=245015&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main

    Am I the only one surprised they aren’t also wearing maroon and gold #21[/quote]
    Oh please, that’s apricots and peaches (that’s for you LI PHIL!!!)

    But seriously, God forbid a team would wish to honor a teammate that suffered an injury that will possibly end their career.

    Any excuse to bring up Sean Taylor huh? It’s funny, the concept of the NHL All Star Game was a benefit for a severly injured player (Ace Bailey) link

    I wonder if folks back in the 30s were all “look at those Leafs and their ‘look at me’ antics with ACE stitched on their sweaters'”

    Tom Brady in his red practice jersey… kind of looks like the crap nfl store is selling.

    link

    My new favorite wesbite, Player Exclusive by Mark something or other has pics of what Manny and Junior should look like tonight.

    link

    [quote comment=”282945″][quote comment=”282942″][quote comment=”282938″]The Hockey news has relased a ranking for the NHL logos…

    link

    NJ should be alot higher
    WAS should be higher
    MIN should be lower
    STL should be lower[/quote]
    Well, at least they got #1 right. Until the PC crowd take that one away, that will not only be the best hockey logo, but one of the best in all of sports.

    I would agree with you that NJ should be higher and MIN should be lower. I’m OK with STL being as high as they are. I think a lot of the older (Original Six and Class of ’67) logos are in because of the classic, instant recognition factor.

    For instance, the NYR logo does nothing for me aesthetically. It’s OK, but not great. From an art standpoint, I think FLA is MUCH better logo.

    Of course I’m biased, but I put PIT above SJ. The Sharks pretty stole the triangle from the Pens (and it has actual meaning when you look at the geography of Pittsburgh, it’s not simply a design element).

    Now I’d like to see a defunct team list, so I can see the likes of the Whalers (one of my faves), Jets, Rockies, Scouts, Seals, etc.[/quote]

    I agree that NYR does not have that good of a logo, but they do have one of th best unis. But that’s a whole different debate.

    And a smuch as I hate having an NHL franchise in southern flordia, they do have a good logo.

    Out of the defunct teams, Winnepeg Jets and Minnesota North Stars are my favorites.[/quote]

    I’d have to put Chicago, Montreal, Toronto, Boston, Pittsburgh, Detroit, and St. Louis as my top tier of logos. It’s totally subjective, but, aren’t all of our ideas about what is good, great, or sickening in respect to uniforms subjective?

    [quote comment=”282948″]http://www.yardbarker.com/m/2176/xl/4231-Rex_raped.jpg

    If this is Rex Grossman in his practice jersey, then… well… See for yourself.[/quote]

    Ummm … that’s not a smile on Rex’s face is it?

    [quote comment=”282937″][quote comment=”282936″][quote comment=”282930″][quote comment=\”282912\”]Though the NFL Shop does sell a Skins practice jersey….they ain\’t wearing them:

    link

    and the Steelers use white for QBs…..

    link

    The Steelers use white for offense and gold for defense.
    And Big Ben just doesnt have a different jersey.[/quote]

    These practice jerseys are a terrible idea that is terribly executed. The Bengals quarterbacks wear orange no contact jerseys and the number font is traditional block style not the more rounded one that appears on the game unis. Despite all this….

    link

    Yeah, that’s pretty close. Nice work, NFL…[/quote]
    No practice jersey available for the Niners but they do have this…
    link

    What, exactly, that is I’m not sure.[/quote]

    Whatever it may be, it is has a “nylon dazzle body” and “polyester shimmer side panels.” Today’s NFL…now with glitter!

    RE: Brewers unis – “From a timeless classic to the game’s most definitively middlebrow design.”

    I think you mean ‘middlebrau’

    So with Manny going to LA, will Manny still be Manny? How will he pull link?

    Love the move… it’s a great move for LA, however not so sure about having uni number 99.

    On the same page as the Hamilton video was this:
    link
    Just dropped it in honor of his sons becoming teammates!

    Great link! Especially because the elder LaRoche is striking out Gorman Thomas. We Brewers fans loved Gorman, and I’m sure for a lot of us it was because he’d swing at just about anything.

    I think you mean ‘middlebrau’
    Heh-heh. Well-played, Biff.

    [quote comment=”282950″][quote comment=”282945″][quote comment=”282942″][quote comment=”282938″]The Hockey news has relased a ranking for the NHL logos…

    link

    NJ should be alot higher
    WAS should be higher
    MIN should be lower
    STL should be lower[/quote]
    Well, at least they got #1 right. Until the PC crowd take that one away, that will not only be the best hockey logo, but one of the best in all of sports.

    I would agree with you that NJ should be higher and MIN should be lower. I’m OK with STL being as high as they are. I think a lot of the older (Original Six and Class of ’67) logos are in because of the classic, instant recognition factor.

    For instance, the NYR logo does nothing for me aesthetically. It’s OK, but not great. From an art standpoint, I think FLA is MUCH better logo.

    Of course I’m biased, but I put PIT above SJ. The Sharks pretty stole the triangle from the Pens (and it has actual meaning when you look at the geography of Pittsburgh, it’s not simply a design element).

    Now I’d like to see a defunct team list, so I can see the likes of the Whalers (one of my faves), Jets, Rockies, Scouts, Seals, etc.[/quote]

    I agree that NYR does not have that good of a logo, but they do have one of th best unis. But that’s a whole different debate.

    And a smuch as I hate having an NHL franchise in southern flordia, they do have a good logo.

    Out of the defunct teams, Winnepeg Jets and Minnesota North Stars are my favorites.[/quote]

    I’d have to put Chicago, Montreal, Toronto, Boston, Pittsburgh, Detroit, and St. Louis as my top tier of logos. It’s totally subjective, but, aren’t all of our ideas about what is good, great, or sickening in respect to uniforms subjective?[/quote]

    The Devils and Oilers logos are far better than the Rangers, Avs, Predators, Sharks, Coyotes, Red Wings and Blues. THN is whack. They didn’t look at the logos from a design point of view. The article they didn’t want to trade entirely on sentiment, but that’s EXACTLY what they did, they just threw in the Wild logo so they can say they didn’t.

    Also the Rangers use that dumb Lady Liberty logo more than the crest, I was in the NHL store on 6th Ave the other day. 75% of the Ranger merchandise had the Liberty logo. They also had a really bad “modern” version of the crest on the Lady Liberty jerseys a few years back.

    [quote comment=”282950″][quote comment=”282945″][quote comment=”282942″][quote comment=”282938″]Well, at least they got #1 right. Until the PC crowd take that one away, that will not only be the best hockey logo, but one of the best in all of sports. quote]

    And probably the worst organization in all of sports. 3 cups, that’s it. and for over 40 of those years there were only 5 other teams (1 of which was the Rangers who couldn’t win a cup in a carnival). You’d think they accidently would have stumbled into a few more.

    One more Griffey Uniform Number update: “Also, Griffey is wearing No. 17 tonight, and switching to 30 tomorrow” (which also means Nick Swisher is 30 for one more day, switching to 1 tomorrow)

    [quote comment=”282959″]One more Griffey Uniform Number update: “Also, Griffey is wearing No. 17 tonight, and switching to 30 tomorrow” (which also means Nick Swisher is 30 for one more day, switching to 1 tomorrow)[/quote]
    I wonder if they will even bother with a NOB for Griffey tonight.

    [quote comment=”282960″][quote comment=”282959″]One more Griffey Uniform Number update: “Also, Griffey is wearing No. 17 tonight, and switching to 30 tomorrow” (which also means Nick Swisher is 30 for one more day, switching to 1 tomorrow)[/quote]
    I wonder if they will even bother with a NOB for Griffey tonight.[/quote]

    Why wouldn’t they?

    [quote comment=”282948″]http://www.yardbarker.com/m/2176/xl/4231-Rex_raped.jpg

    “If this is Rex Grossman in his practice jersey, then… well… See for yourself.”[/quote]

    Well played, sir!

    [quote comment=”282918″][quote comment=”282906″]
    “I’d prefer if baseball took absolutely no ideas from international soccer. How about instead soccer adopts some of MLB’s ideas…”[/quote]

    “Like what? Managers in uniform? Pants to the shoetops? A DH?”[/quote]

    Unified officials? Interleague play? They have that in Europe. I think it’s called the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Cup.

    [quote comment=”282958″][quote comment=”282950″][quote comment=”282945″][quote comment=”282942″][quote comment=”282938″]Well, at least they got #1 right. Until the PC crowd take that one away, that will not only be the best hockey logo, but one of the best in all of sports. quote]

    And probably the worst organization in all of sports. 3 cups, that’s it. and for over 40 of those years there were only 5 other teams (1 of which was the Rangers who couldn’t win a cup in a carnival). You’d think they accidently would have stumbled into a few more.[/quote]
    One: 1928
    Two: 1933
    Three: 1940
    Four: 1994
    That’s it.

    [quote comment=”282960″][quote comment=”282959″]One more Griffey Uniform Number update: “Also, Griffey is wearing No. 17 tonight, and switching to 30 tomorrow” (which also means Nick Swisher is 30 for one more day, switching to 1 tomorrow)[/quote]
    I wonder if they will even bother with a NOB for Griffey tonight.[/quote]

    Seems like plans changed AGAIN, and Griffey decided he didn’t want to take Swisher’s number, so he’s going to stay as 17. Until they change their mind again, I guess.

    [completely off topic]

    Hey I found a picture of Jarrod Saltalamacchia, and it looks to me like he has a different helmet design.
    It doesn’t look like the CoolFlo helmet and it doesn’t look like the average batting helmet… What kind is it?

    link

    [quote comment=”282961″][quote comment=”282960″][quote comment=”282959″]One more Griffey Uniform Number update: “Also, Griffey is wearing No. 17 tonight, and switching to 30 tomorrow” (which also means Nick Swisher is 30 for one more day, switching to 1 tomorrow)[/quote]
    I wonder if they will even bother with a NOB for Griffey tonight.[/quote]

    Why wouldn’t they?[/quote]
    I was thinking that if its just one game and its on the road, why bother. Sounds like he’s sticking with 17, though, I guess.

    [quote comment=”282851″]Must disagree with number six in the 10 Worst Sports Uniforms in Philadelphia. That Phillies look is classic in a retro style.

    What shoulda been added: Those fucking awful all-green disasters the Eagles wore in the 1997 MNF game against the Niners at the Vet and the 1994 throwbacks throwups with green pants and socks they had against the Packers.[/quote]

    Iggles wore all-green? Truly? Ack.

    [quote comment=”282840″][quote comment=”282837″]Marlins are the “outhouse” of MLB uniforms? Look at the teams created in the last twenty years and I challenge you not to put the Marlins in the top 10 percent when it comes to nice digs.

    link

    As long as they keep teal, they’ll never be in the top 10 percent. (Top 10 percent of 30 teams, BTW, is three! They have the third best uni in baseball??)

    Although I agree, they’re not quite “outhouse.” Pretty horrible unis still.[/quote]

    I think two of the finest unis in MLB belong to the retro Indians and Phils. I’d makae those fulltime.

    On another topic; are there any major changes in the NFL? As the Giants and A’s both slide away into oblivion..we have to welcome the Niners.

    Hmmm. Wait, forget that. Nolan’s back.

    [quote comment=”282955″]On the same page as the Hamilton video was this:
    link
    Just dropped it in honor of his sons becoming teammates!

    Great link! Especially because the elder LaRoche is striking out Gorman Thomas. We Brewers fans loved Gorman, and I’m sure for a lot of us it was because he’d swing at just about anything.

    I think you mean ‘middlebrau’
    Heh-heh. Well-played, Biff.[/quote]

    This (the video) was also a “uni moment”. I was at this game, 1981, and after Thomas struck out he flipped his helmet in the air and smashed with his bat. The crowd loved that as much as the pitch!

    Mikey Powell started wearing eye black in a triangle and now its just like a lacrosse thing

    [quote comment=”282932″]link is when you know you wear your jersey too baggy. The MLB Authentic tag isn’t supposed to show Manny.[/quote]

    Not to ever defend Manny, but tag issues are not necessarily the result of bagginess:
    link

    [quote comment=”282939″]Here’s your weekend imponderable.

    In the full, long version of Abbott and Costello’s “Who’s on First?”, the only position never mentioned is right field.

    Is it something mystic? Or perhaps because in childhood games right field traditionally was patrolled by the fat kid, the kid who took violin lessons or (from THE BAD NEWS BEARS) a “booger-eating moron”?

    Why no RF?

    “[/quote]
    It’s obviously Nobody.

    First off, the pattern in everyone’s designs for the OKC jerseys seems to be not having the same word on the front of the home and away jerseys (so home will have OKC, away will have the nickname or vice versa). A lot of the submissions were like that.

    It sounded like Manny said in his press conference that he would be wearing #30. My Spanish isn’t so hot and that’s what they were speaking, but it definitely sounded like it.

    Speaking of which, David Ortiz is wearing Manny’s old #24 wristbands tonight vs. Oakland (sorry, no screengrab).

    [quote comment=”282841″]I received an email from Jeffrey Twiss – VP Media Relations/Alumni Relations a couple of days ago in response to my question about the banners, and to paraphrase the response was “I asked several people and no one really knows. I guess it is part of the Celtics mystique.” He might like to know this latest information.

    Will the 2008 banner be accurate or will it still be random?[/quote]

    If you follow the link to NE Banner, you’ll see a photo of the owner of the Celtics holding the 2008 Championship banner in the parade, with the white NBA ball.

    Manny in a media opportunity (read: press conference) was told by Joe Torre to cut his hair, and did so before tonight’s game from what I read. Guess there now is a personal appearance rule with Torre in Los Angeles.

    [quote comment=”282895″]Holy crap!!! The Folly Floater game!!!! I’m there with some friends someplace in the crowd above the Indian’s dugout (we could always bribe a YS usher). That day remains the most fun I’ve ever had in a ballpark. It was a link and in addition to the Hamilton-Horton thing there was a huge fight at home plate between Stan Bahnsen and Vada Pinson after a play at home plate with Bahnsen covering. Some joker threw a cherry bomb out of the upper deck and it exploded near home plate causing Ray Fosse (and about 30,000 other folks) to jump about three feet in the air. And last but not least Bobby Murcer hit four consecutive homers (sandwiched around a walk). Thanks for that footage[/quote]

    link of the Hamilton-Horton incident as well as the whole day of silliness. I love the Internet!

    [quote comment=”282967″][quote comment=”282961″][quote comment=”282960″][quote comment=”282959″]One more Griffey Uniform Number update: “Also, Griffey is wearing No. 17 tonight, and switching to 30 tomorrow” (which also means Nick Swisher is 30 for one more day, switching to 1 tomorrow)[/quote]
    I wonder if they will even bother with a NOB for Griffey tonight.[/quote]

    Why wouldn’t they?[/quote]
    I was thinking that if its just one game and its on the road, why bother. Sounds like he’s sticking with 17, though, I guess.[/quote]
    Griffey NOB? link

    [quote comment=”282832″]”Better off in L.A., where the home pants are piping-free (the Sox’s pants piping had accentuated his ultra-baggy look.”

    But the real question is, do they make snoods in Dodger Blue?[/quote]

    Excellent point! I’ll add that to the chart.[/quote]

    YES!

    [quote comment=”282899″][quote comment=”282886″]Minus the new design, the SJ Sharks look fucking great in teal.[/quote]

    I’ve said this before here, i think the sharks would look awesome if you replace the teal with gray. Have gray and black be their colors, that’d be one of the better unis in the league. I’m no photoshop wizard, but if someone could do that, I’d love to see it.[/quote]

    link link link (even though you probably won’t see this).
    Personally, I think they just look boring with gray. Like you’re looking at it in black and white.

    In the Dodgers/Dbacks game Torre was angry about Randy Johnson haveing a tan glove with a black wristband which he has had for four starts now and they made him take it off. There was some interesting comments made by the Dbacks announcers about it.

    [quote comment=”282981″]In the Dodgers/Dbacks game Torre was angry about Randy Johnson haveing a tan glove with a black wristband which he has had for four starts now and they made him take it off. There was some interesting comments made by the Dbacks announcers about it.[/quote]
    I was watching the game, and my first thought was Uni Watch and how long it would take before someone would cover this! NOTHING, NOTHING gets past this site! AWESOME!

    [quote comment=”282980″][quote comment=”282899″][quote comment=”282886″]Minus the new design, the SJ Sharks look fucking great in teal.[/quote]

    I’ve said this before here, i think the sharks would look awesome if you replace the teal with gray. Have gray and black be their colors, that’d be one of the better unis in the league. I’m no photoshop wizard, but if someone could do that, I’d love to see it.[/quote]

    link link link (even though you probably won’t see this).
    Personally, I think they just look boring with gray. Like you’re looking at it in black and white.[/quote]

    And an link.

    How is Casey Blake going from Cleveland’s uni to a Dodger’s uni a “serious” upgrade? I can understand if you like the Dodger’s uni more more but “serious”, thats a little bit of an overstatement.

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