Today is Canada Day, which means my Canadian pal Liz is hosting a cookout in her yard this evening. I plan to make Nanaimo bars for the occasion, whoop-whoop.
Canada Day also means the Blue Jays will be wearing special holiday jerseys — or they would be, if they were playing at home. But for the second consecutive year, they’re spending July 1st on the road. Of course, it’s not as though the holiday jerseys from previous years have been things of beauty, as you can see here, here, here, here, and here (all those pages courtesy of Bill Henderson’s awesome jersey reference CD), but c’mon, how hard can it be for MLB to schedule their one Canadian team to be at home on the summer’s biggest Canadian holiday? Lame.
New ESPN column today — here’s the link.
Uni Watch News Ticker: “There are lots of hockey fight videos on YouTube,” says Alan Kreit. “But this one is unique because of the officials’ jerseys — note the advertising.” ”¦ Patrick Murray found a site devoted to Cubs scorecard cover art, including more killer Otis Shepard designs (see also here, here, here, here, and here), plus a separate page devoted to Cubbie pocket schedules. ”¦ Remember the basketball cape from that old Rawlings catalog I surveyed last week? I’ve never seen anyone wear a hoops cape, but Jim McGlynn has: “Growing up in Indiana, I remember watching the University of Evansville Purple Aces play at Butler University. The Aces wore sleeved basketball jerseys, but more importantly, they wore capes during warm up. The capes went down to their knees and hung from their shoulders. Wish I had pictures of that.” Me, too. ”¦ There’s a high school softball player in Virginia who calls herself Kate the Great. How do I know? Because C.T. Wykes sent me a photo of her glove. ”¦ Larry Wiederecht sent along a nice photo of authentic Phillies stirrups. ”¦ Fascinating note from Brandon Davis, who writes: “After reading your articles about the Cubs trademark logo, I inspected an A’s ’68 throwback jersey that I just bought at a team charity auction. Look closely at the Majestic logo — it includes the trademark symbol embroidered into the design. (it doesn’t photograph well, but it’s clearly visible when looking at it). I’ll check some of my other Majestic jerseys to see if I can pinpoint when Majestic may have started doing this.” If anyone else wants to check their game-used jerseys and report on their findings, feel free. ”¦ Awesome story out of Milwaukee about a fan who showed up in a full retro uniform and got invited onto the field during BP. For details, scroll down to the “Earning a Spot” section on this page (with thanks to Nicole Haase). ”¦ I got outbid on this — really nice, no?
T-Ball returns to the White House South Lawn
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Thise kids look like old men with their pants pulled up to their chests…
Looks like Bernard Lagat is wearing one of those Ink Blot tests on his jersey during the 5000 last night!
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For all you NHL fans:
With free agency starting today, you can see what your favorite free agent’s name can look like on your favorite team’s jersey!
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I have to agree with MLB’s lameness on not giving Toronto a home date for Canada Day. Like you said, it’s ONE day of the year for ONE team in Canada. Would that be that difficult? Especially in light of all the other concessions they make in the schedule (are two NYY/NYM and CHC/CWS series REALLY necessary?)
That all being said, would there be any reason the Jays couldn’t just wear a special uni today even though they are on the road? I have to say, I’ve always enjoyed the Canada Day unis, at least with the prior generation uniform (I really like that red cap with the blue bill and tried unsuccessfully to obtain one). I know they aren’t the most visually appealing things but I like the uniqueness of them doing for one game a year.
Also, I think Jason Bay and any other Canadian-born players should be permitted to wear a Canadian flag patch on their jersey or cap on 7/1.
what are the chances the jays will be wearing the RED ‘welcome back vets’ cap…at least just for canada day
instead of, you know, link…
btw…i did a somewhat extensive search for the red cap…and, no luck
sad really, if they don’t have the red alt at all
heyhey…which 68 throwback did you win? Where did you win it? I have a game worn 68 as well….it is the same logo as you…..
While waiting for the new post on ESPN.com today, I was looking at the article written for the passing of Uga VI (Georgia’s mascot). I noticed a bit of scary logo creep…….
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Those Otis Shepard designed Cub scorecards are magnificent. Stunningly beautiful.
The perfect harmony of sport and art.
Ok, I remember a joke from around the early 90s some comedian told about going to football games and seeing the guys in full uniform–pads and all–and would say “Does that moron actually expect to be called into the game at some point?” Seeing how it actually got that Brewers fan on the field for BP, I can see more people going out of their way to put together full uniforms just to see if they can get a chance to go on the field. Since there is not any images from the BP, I can only guess the guy actually had a baseball player’s build, and not one of a beer drinker…
[quote comment=”277911″]what are the chances the jays will be wearing the RED ‘welcome back vets’ cap…at least just for canada day
instead of, you know, link…
btw…i did a somewhat extensive search for the red cap…and, no luck
sad really, if they don’t have the red alt at all[/quote]
No WONDER they are charging $34 a cap … They had to do more than update the color of the overall cap when they went from link to link.
Can anyone spot the other change? (which really shouldn’t have been put on the blue cap in the first place.
[quote comment=”277916″][quote comment=”277911″]what are the chances the jays will be wearing the RED ‘welcome back vets’ cap…at least just for canada day
instead of, you know, link…
btw…i did a somewhat extensive search for the red cap…and, no luck
sad really, if they don’t have the red alt at all[/quote]
No WONDER they are charging $34 a cap … They had to do more than update the color of the overall cap when they went from link to link.
Can anyone spot the other change? (which really shouldn’t have been put on the blue cap in the first place.[/quote]
The flag on the MLB logo waving in the wind…..?
[quote comment=”277917″][quote comment=”277916″][quote comment=”277911″]what are the chances the jays will be wearing the RED ‘welcome back vets’ cap…at least just for canada day
instead of, you know, link…
btw…i did a somewhat extensive search for the red cap…and, no luck
sad really, if they don’t have the red alt at all[/quote]
No WONDER they are charging $34 a cap … They had to do more than update the color of the overall cap when they went from link to link.
Can anyone spot the other change? (which really shouldn’t have been put on the blue cap in the first place.[/quote]
The flag on the MLB logo waving in the wind…..?[/quote]
Good eye (mate).
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Thise kids look like old men with their pants pulled up to their chests…[/quote]
Those kids look like they’re having a lot of fun.
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Thise kids look like old men with their pants pulled up to their chests…[/quote]
Those kids look like they’re having a lot of fun.[/quote]
Oh no… even Little Leaguers are leaving the sticker on the cap. What is this world coming to?
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Thise kids look like old men with their pants pulled up to their chests…[/quote]
Those kids look like they’re having a lot of fun.[/quote]
Oh no… even Little Leaguers are leaving the sticker on the cap. What is this world coming to?[/quote]
Link might help…
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[quote comment=”277916″][quote comment=”277911″]what are the chances the jays will be wearing the RED ‘welcome back vets’ cap…at least just for canada day
instead of, you know, link…
btw…i did a somewhat extensive search for the red cap…and, no luck
sad really, if they don’t have the red alt at all[/quote]
No WONDER they are charging $34 a cap … They had to do more than update the color of the overall cap when they went from link to link.
Can anyone spot the other change? (which really shouldn’t have been put on the blue cap in the first place.[/quote]
Both of those links are to blue caps
The red hat was a mistake to even have its picture released. Yes, you’ll see them show up on the sites, but when they do, they’ll get quickly changed over to the blue version. The only one being sold on MLBshop is the blue one, and that link in yesterday’s blog over the red cap on Eastbay changed to a blue cap by the end of the day.
As I said in the comments late last night, this is just further disgusting proof of the American flag becoming a corportate logo rather than a national symbol.
By the way, what a complete slap in the face to Canada by MLB to not only have Toronto not playing in Canada on Canada Day, but to also force them to wear stars and stripes 3 days later… Unreal
New ESPN column is good to go:
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TOO BAGGY!
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White Sox fans would bitch about a sunny day after two weeks of rain.
Those Otis Shepard scorecards are indeed beautiful, but the site on which you found them has a lot more than just scorecards! Kasey Ignarski has been keeping diligent track of all the Cubs’ uniform numbers for many years, and his all-time lists (by number and by year) are there. Check them out!
not only do the link look rifuckindiculous in their shorts and santa clausy sanis, they blew the stirrups as well
I have an authentic Brewers retro throwback from last year and the majestic logo looks similar. My authentic BP jersey from this year does not have it, though it is in felt and not embroidered.
Paul, that link you linked to on the ESPN page?
He’s not wearing black, it’s just the lighting. Those uniforms were never black.
Especially in light of all the other concessions they make in the schedule (are two NYY/NYM and CHC/CWS series REALLY necessary?)
Do you really think those two are the only example of multiple series? How about home/aways for the following:
STL/KC
BAL/WAS
TB/FLA
TX/HOU
LAA/LAD
MIN/MIL
OAK/SF
SD/SEA – this is the one that I would ask if this is really necessary
It’s the regional rivalry that the fans love…the one thing that’s left for us
[quote comment=”277929″]Paul, that link you linked to on the ESPN page?
He’s not wearing black, it’s just the lighting. Those uniforms were never black.[/quote]
Actually, the dye lots varied quite a bit, from various shades of blue to just about black. Very inconsistent.
Paul,
An excellent choice going with the Nanaimo Bars. They are heavenly.
The Mid-American Conference unveiled link
[quote comment=”277931″][quote comment=”277929″]Paul, that link you linked to on the ESPN page?
He’s not wearing black, it’s just the lighting. Those uniforms were never black.[/quote]
Actually, the dye lots varied quite a bit, from various shades of blue to just about black. Very inconsistent.[/quote]
What about the name and number?
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I hit submit before I closed my tag. Thoughts? I think it looks like an MLS logo. Or perhaps the MLS logo.
The kid on the far right almost gets link. No stirrups, but at least his pants are up.
[quote comment=”277930″]Especially in light of all the other concessions they make in the schedule (are two NYY/NYM and CHC/CWS series REALLY necessary?)
Do you really think those two are the only example of multiple series? How about home/aways for the following:
STL/KC
BAL/WAS
TB/FLA
TX/HOU
LAA/LAD
MIN/MIL
OAK/SF
SD/SEA – this is the one that I would ask if this is really necessary
It’s the regional rivalry that the fans love…the one thing that’s left for us[/quote]
No, I just gave those two as examples. The regional rivalries are fine, but my point was that interleague play is not done right as far as scheduling. Quite frankly, it should be a rotation of one division’s team playing another team’s division’s team, period. The world won’t end if we have a year that the Mets and Yanks don’t play each other. In fact, it would make those series that much more special when the schedule rolls around.
If MLB can find the dates to schedule those home and homes, they could have the decency to the fans north of the border to schedule the Jays at home over Canada Day. (I would bet when the CFL had its ill-fated experiment with teams in the states, that they were smart enough to have the Canadian teams stay at home).
MLB should also schedule one home double header for every team. I think it would be a neat throwback to give this to the fans and have them know it ahead of time rather than just on rainouts.
You Mets fans should appreciate this. Growing up with WOR as one of my superstations, I remember fondly watching Banner Day. Didn’t they do that between games of a scheduled doubleheader? Is that something they still do at Shea?
(Also, what was the name of that little kid they used in the promo commercials? They’d put him inside a gym bag to show how big it was)
I just took a look at my authentic Red Sox home, away and alternate and sure enough, the trademark is embroidered in the Majestic logo. Interesting.
Check out this promotion at Lids.com for a Spike Lee-designed cap. If that pennant-covered Yankees cap is any indication of what’s coming, the anticipation is killing me.
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[quote]You Mets fans should appreciate this. Growing up with WOR as one of my superstations, I remember fondly watching Banner Day. Didn’t they do that between games of a scheduled doubleheader? Is that something they still do at Shea?[/quote]
ah yes…channel 9 here in NY…and i do remember those banner days…sadly, they have, like the scheduled doubleheader, gone the way of the dinosaur…i think i may have attended one back in the late 70’s with my dad…i know it was a DH…but i certainly remember seeing some on teh television
dougie, you’ve got some great ideas, but sadly, the geniuses who run mlb will never implement them…and i, too, could do without having to play the spankees 6 games a year…it’s not really that big of a deal anymore (maybe this year with the closing of shea and ysI)…
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on another note…every time someone posts a link stating “here’s the RED toronto cap”…
it comes up blue
someone better get a flickr image of that or we’ll NEVER see one again
fuckers
I went to the Rays/Red Sox game last night. If anyone is looking for bandwagon fans, come to St. Pete. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt as they’ve never had anything to root for before.
In the monthly Rays news magazine there is an interview with Scott Kazmir with questions from the fans. Obviously the fan must of been a UniWatcher and Kazmir GETS IT.
Question: “If you had to choose who has the best team uniform other than the Rays, who would it be?”
Scott Kazmir: “Hmm…. probably the old yellow, orange, and red Astros uniforms. Those were crazy.”
[quote comment=”277937″][quote comment=”277930″]Especially in light of all the other concessions they make in the schedule (are two NYY/NYM and CHC/CWS series REALLY necessary?)
Do you really think those two are the only example of multiple series? How about home/aways for the following:
STL/KC
BAL/WAS
TB/FLA
TX/HOU
LAA/LAD
MIN/MIL
OAK/SF
SD/SEA – this is the one that I would ask if this is really necessary
It’s the regional rivalry that the fans love…the one thing that’s left for us[/quote]
No, I just gave those two as examples. The regional rivalries are fine, but my point was that interleague play is not done right as far as scheduling. Quite frankly, it should be a rotation of one division’s team playing another team’s division’s team, period. The world won’t end if we have a year that the Mets and Yanks don’t play each other. In fact, it would make those series that much more special when the schedule rolls around.
If MLB can find the dates to schedule those home and homes, they could have the decency to the fans north of the border to schedule the Jays at home over Canada Day. (I would bet when the CFL had its ill-fated experiment with teams in the states, that they were smart enough to have the Canadian teams stay at home).
MLB should also schedule one home double header for every team. I think it would be a neat throwback to give this to the fans and have them know it ahead of time rather than just on rainouts.
You Mets fans should appreciate this. Growing up with WOR as one of my superstations, I remember fondly watching Banner Day. Didn’t they do that between games of a scheduled doubleheader? Is that something they still do at Shea?
(Also, what was the name of that little kid they used in the promo commercials? They’d put him inside a gym bag to show how big it was)[/quote]
There are some points in there I agree with you, but as far as the regional rivalries, I like the two series…Cubs/Sox here in Chicago is absolutely huge…especially this year with the two being in 1st
Interleague is great, especially with the opportunity to wear some great throwbacks to past WS match-ups
And yes, if the Sox played the NL East, they should play everyone in the NL East
The doubleheader would be really cool, but I don’t see it happening anytime soon
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I didn’t realize the Cubs played the Marlins in 1967.
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I didn’t realize the Cubs played the Marlins in 1967.[/quote]
Dude was safe, too. They were obviously using artistic license.
[quote comment=”277931″][quote comment=”277929″]Paul, that link you linked to on the ESPN page?
He’s not wearing black, it’s just the lighting. Those uniforms were never black.[/quote]
Actually, the dye lots varied quite a bit, from various shades of blue to just about black. Very inconsistent.[/quote]
Correct. I had the hat when I was in kindergarden, and it was black. Of course, that wasn’t an official game-worn hat, but from what I remember the hat was often absolutely black.
Since MLB is forcing everyone to wear the patriotic caps for the 4th of July, the White Sox should wear these TBTC unis from the 1917 World Series. The hats with this uni would look cool. Link courtesy of Paul’s ESPN article…
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Yeah, I kno[quote comment=”277942″][quote comment=”277937″][quote comment=”277930″]Especially in light of all the other concessions they make in the schedule (are two NYY/NYM and CHC/CWS series REALLY necessary?)
Do you really think those two are the only example of multiple series? How about home/aways for the following:
STL/KC
BAL/WAS
TB/FLA
TX/HOU
LAA/LAD
MIN/MIL
OAK/SF
SD/SEA – this is the one that I would ask if this is really necessary
It’s the regional rivalry that the fans love…the one thing that’s left for us[/quote]
No, I just gave those two as examples. The regional rivalries are fine, but my point was that interleague play is not done right as far as scheduling. Quite frankly, it should be a rotation of one division’s team playing another team’s division’s team, period. The world won’t end if we have a year that the Mets and Yanks don’t play each other. In fact, it would make those series that much more special when the schedule rolls around.
If MLB can find the dates to schedule those home and homes, they could have the decency to the fans north of the border to schedule the Jays at home over Canada Day. (I would bet when the CFL had its ill-fated experiment with teams in the states, that they were smart enough to have the Canadian teams stay at home).
MLB should also schedule one home double header for every team. I think it would be a neat throwback to give this to the fans and have them know it ahead of time rather than just on rainouts.
You Mets fans should appreciate this. Growing up with WOR as one of my superstations, I remember fondly watching Banner Day. Didn’t they do that between games of a scheduled doubleheader? Is that something they still do at Shea?
(Also, what was the name of that little kid they used in the promo commercials? They’d put him inside a gym bag to show how big it was)[/quote]
There are some points in there I agree with you, but as far as the regional rivalries, I like the two series…Cubs/Sox here in Chicago is absolutely huge…especially this year with the two being in 1st
Interleague is great, especially with the opportunity to wear some great throwbacks to past WS match-ups
And yes, if the Sox played the NL East, they should play everyone in the NL East
The doubleheader would be really cool, but I don’t see it happening anytime soon[/quote]
Yeah, I know it’s tough when you have unbalanced numbers of teams in both the central and west divisions in the leagues, but I believe that was the original intent of interleague play. Then, I think everyone got caught up in the regional rivalries and it got changed. I do agree with the idea of it being OK this year with NY because of it being the final seasons of Yankee and Shea Stadium but I wouldn’t mind if that true scheduling concept was followed.
While I’m not complaining about the Yanks coming to play the Pirates, it took them long enough to come to Pittsburgh while the Pirates traveled to Yankee Stadium twice prior. On top of that, the Pirates’ regional rivlary, the Indians, hasn’t been on the schedule since ’06.
Not saying I didn’t enjoy seeing the Yanks but I would rather have seen the Tribe than the Rays (even if TB is the hottest team in the MLB right now)
And teams are playing way too much in their own divisions. I’d rather see the Pirates play the Phillies or Mets one more series than have to see Chicago, Milwaukee or Houston over and over again.
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Both teams are the “South Lawn Sluggers.” They couldn’t come up with a second team name? S.L. Swingers? Hmm, might give the wrong idea. Slammers? Help me out here…
This doesn’t have anything to do with any of todays topics, but they do have some relevance to past discussions…
First, in regards to the pillbox hats worn by NL teams in 1976 (see UniWatch of Aug. 1, 2007) I stumbled across a picture of Sparky Anderson arguing with an umpire, and the ump is wearing link. Never seen that before!
Secondly, I’m sure there has been discussion about teams other than the Red Sox wearing the “Red Sox font” on thier unis (1960s A’s, 1970s Angels, 1930s Yankees, etc.). But I wasn’t aware the Dodgers did after their move to Los Angeles. From the link as the Sparky pic, comes link of Sandy Koufax. And it wasn’t just on the front, it was link as well.
So based on the overlapping of Dodger Stadium and Sandy’s career, this pic had to have been from 1962 to 1965. When exactly? Who knows…
My trip to the Cubby Bear last week revealed a Cubs jersey without the trademark symbol
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I was watching parts of the DET/MIN game last night and wondered something about the jerseys. The tiger’s horrible (in my opinon) away unis have ‘Detroit’ across the chest with two buttons close together above it. Assuming they do this so no buttons are in the name on the chest. But when the Tigers are at home, they have the same button placement even though their awesome home uni only has a old english D on the side of the chest, nothing across the middle. But still wear the buttons like they have something in the middel. Is this a league wide thing, or do some teams have different button schemes for home/away jerseys?
If this has been touched on before I apologize.
[quote comment=”277950″]My trip to the Cubby Bear last week revealed a Cubs jersey without the trademark symbol
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Made by Riddel, not Majestic. Interesting.
[quote comment=”277952″][quote comment=”277950″]My trip to the Cubby Bear last week revealed a Cubs jersey without the trademark symbol
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Made by Riddel, not Majestic. Interesting.[/quote]
It’s a Russell athletic – link
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White Sox fans would bitch about a sunny day after two weeks of rain.[/quote]
cubs fans would be too drunk on Old Style to realize either change in the weather.
enjoy your 1908 anniversary north shore.
Go Go White Sox!
[quote comment=”277953″][quote comment=”277952″][quote comment=”277950″]My trip to the Cubby Bear last week revealed a Cubs jersey without the trademark symbol
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Made by Riddel, not Majestic. Interesting.[/quote]
It’s a Russell athletic – link
Oops … two Rs don’t make a right (guess).
[quote comment=”277910″]I have to agree with MLB’s lameness on not giving Toronto a home date for Canada Day. Like you said, it’s ONE day of the year for ONE team in Canada. Would that be that difficult? Especially in light of all the other concessions they make in the schedule (are two NYY/NYM and CHC/CWS series REALLY necessary?)
That all being said, would there be any reason the Jays couldn’t just wear a special uni today even though they are on the road? I have to say, I’ve always enjoyed the Canada Day unis, at least with the prior generation uniform (I really like that red cap with the blue bill and tried unsuccessfully to obtain one). I know they aren’t the most visually appealing things but I like the uniqueness of them doing for one game a year.
Also, I think Jason Bay and any other Canadian-born players should be permitted to wear a Canadian flag patch on their jersey or cap on 7/1.[/quote]
The Boston Red Sox get to play the tradition card for a home matinée every Patriots’ Day, designed to finish right before the Boston Marathon, which is also on Patriots’ Day. So if MLB will make a trivial concession for a Commonwealth of Massachusetts civic holiday, why can’t the Canadian team play ball in their region (read: country) for that national holiday?
you so punny jim
[quote comment=”277951″]I was watching parts of the DET/MIN game last night and wondered something about the jerseys. The tiger’s horrible (in my opinon) away unis have ‘Detroit’ across the chest with two buttons close together above it. Assuming they do this so no buttons are in the name on the chest. But when the Tigers are at home, they have the same button placement even though their awesome home uni only has a old english D on the side of the chest, nothing across the middle. But still wear the buttons like they have something in the middel. Is this a league wide thing, or do some teams have different button schemes for home/away jerseys?
If this has been touched on before I apologize.[/quote]
Addressed at length in one of my recent ESPN columns:
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[quote]The Boston Red Sox get to play the tradition card for a home matinée every Patriots’ Day, designed to finish right before the Boston Marathon, which is also on Patriots’ Day. So if MLB will make a trivial concession for a Commonwealth of Massachusetts civic holiday, why can’t the Canadian team play ball in their region (read: country) for that national holiday?[/quote]
i absolutely agree with our ex-pat UWer mike here…how difficult would it be to let the jays play north of teh border on every 7/1? i can understand having teams alternate between opening at home/road every year, the stupid interplague concessions which screw up the schedule, the unbalanced schedule in general…but…
if they’re gonna give the sawks that pats day home game EVERY YEAR (which if you want to argue against, i won’t fight you)…then they should let the lone canadian team play at home on canada day
at least the yanks have the traditional labor day double header this year
wait…a quick glance shows the yanks play…
NO ONE on labor day
now…talk about a freakin travesty…how can you NOT have labor day (or memorial day) baseball???
Time to collect the recruitment bonus!!!!
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[quote comment=”277953″][quote comment=”277952″][quote comment=”277950″]My trip to the Cubby Bear last week revealed a Cubs jersey without the trademark symbol
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Made by Riddel, not Majestic. Interesting.[/quote]
It’s a Russell athletic – link
Majestic started making Cubs jerseys in 1999. The ‘authentic’ jerseys made by Russell prior to that — authentic, but not on-field jerseys — didn’t have the trademark symbol. I have a Ryne Sandberg jersey from 1994 with no trademark symbol.
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now…talk about a freakin travesty…how can you NOT have labor day (or memorial day) baseball???[/quote]
The Yankees play at Detroit on Labor Day. MLB.com already has the pitching matchup somehow.
I have my tickets for the September 1 Dodger Stadium matchup vs. the Padres. Nothing like Labor Day baseball…
[quote comment=”277962″][quote comment=”277959″]
now…talk about a freakin travesty…how can you NOT have labor day (or memorial day) baseball???[/quote]
The Yankees play at Detroit on Labor Day. MLB.com already has the pitching matchup somehow.
I have my tickets for the September 1 Dodger Stadium matchup vs. the Padres. Nothing like Labor Day baseball…[/quote]
my bad…i was looking at a schedule i printed out prior to the start of the season…it’s a rainout makeup…but my point remains…how can you not even schedule a labor day game???
White Sox fans would bitch about a sunny day after two weeks of rain.
In that spirit, the ESPN article erroneously states that the Sox put names on the uniforms in 1961. It was actually 1960, according to Bill Veeck’s autobiography Veeck As In Wreck.
He wrote that he was inspired by watching the Sox on TV during the pennant race of 1959 and seeing the players’ names projected on the screen. He wondered why fans watching on TV should have an advantage that fans in attendance at the park didn’t have.
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ummmmmmmmmm…puerto rico flag wristbands??
[quote comment=”277964″]White Sox fans would bitch about a sunny day after two weeks of rain.
In that spirit, the ESPN article erroneously states that the Sox put names on the uniforms in 1961. It was actually 1960, according to Bill Veeck’s autobiography Veeck As In Wreck.
He wrote that he was inspired by watching the Sox on TV during the pennant race of 1959 and seeing the players’ names projected on the screen. He wondered why fans watching on TV should have an advantage that fans in attendance at the park didn’t have.[/quote]
Yeah. I always thought the commissioner of the AFL asked Veeck for permission to use his idea and go NOB. I remember Veeck being flattered by the request.
[quote comment=”277964″]White Sox fans would bitch about a sunny day after two weeks of rain.
In that spirit, the ESPN article erroneously states that the Sox put names on the uniforms in 1961. It was actually 1960, according to Bill Veeck’s autobiography Veeck As In Wreck.[/quote]
Damn — you’re right! My bad. I’ll ESPN editors make the fix.
Thanks!
[quote comment=”277967″][quote comment=”277964″]White Sox fans would bitch about a sunny day after two weeks of rain.
In that spirit, the ESPN article erroneously states that the Sox put names on the uniforms in 1961. It was actually 1960, according to Bill Veeck’s autobiography Veeck As In Wreck.[/quote]
Damn — you’re right! My bad. I’ll ESPN editors make the fix.
Thanks![/quote]
And here’s a low number ’61 to confirm.
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[quote comment=”277930″]Especially in light of all the other concessions they make in the schedule (are two NYY/NYM and CHC/CWS series REALLY necessary?)
Do you really think those two are the only example of multiple series? How about home/aways for the following:
STL/KC
BAL/WAS
TB/FLA
TX/HOU
LAA/LAD
MIN/MIL
OAK/SF
SD/SEA – this is the one that I would ask if this is really necessary
It’s the regional rivalry that the fans love…the one thing that’s left for us[/quote]
But it sucks for fans of teams that don’t have a regional rivalry…sure, it’s nice for Cubs and Sox fans to play home-and-home series, but then I have to watch the Tigers play yet another team I care nothing about…I mean, really, what’s the point of having the Tigers play an extra interleague series, like against San Diego or Colorado (neither of whom, might I add, have regional rivalries)?
[quote comment=”277965″][quote comment=”277906″]T-Ball returns to the White House South Lawn
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ummmmmmmmmm…puerto rico flag wristbands??[/quote]
Well, yeah! American kids don’t play baseball anymore. Where else were they going to get them from?
[quote comment=”277951″]I was watching parts of the DET/MIN game last night and wondered something about the jerseys. The tiger’s horrible (in my opinon) away unis have ‘Detroit’ across the chest with two buttons close together above it. Assuming they do this so no buttons are in the name on the chest. But when the Tigers are at home, they have the same button placement even though their awesome home uni only has a old english D on the side of the chest, nothing across the middle. But still wear the buttons like they have something in the middel. Is this a league wide thing, or do some teams have different button schemes for home/away jerseys?
If this has been touched on before I apologize.[/quote]
What’s wrong with the Tigers’ road jerseys?
[quote comment=”277965″][quote comment=”277906″]T-Ball returns to the White House South Lawn
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ummmmmmmmmm…puerto rico flag wristbands??[/quote]
puerto rico is part of america.
Oh, and finally, none of those Canada Day jerseys are especially great looking but they’re all decent uniforms…except the 06 ones…I mean, Jesus Christ, it looks someone took an already bad design and outlined it in red magic marker. Atrocious.
[quote comment=”277961″][quote comment=”277953″][quote comment=”277952″][quote comment=”277950″]My trip to the Cubby Bear last week revealed a Cubs jersey without the trademark symbol
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Made by Riddel, not Majestic. Interesting.[/quote]
It’s a Russell athletic – link
Majestic started making Cubs jerseys in 1999. The ‘authentic’ jerseys made by Russell prior to that — authentic, but not on-field jerseys — didn’t have the trademark symbol. I have a Ryne Sandberg jersey from 1994 with no trademark symbol.[/quote]
Which is strange…you would think that they would just use the same patch rather than create a whole new inaccurate one.
[quote comment=”277970″][quote comment=”277965″][quote comment=”277906″]
ummmmmmmmmm…puerto rico flag wristbands??[/quote]
Well, yeah! American kids don’t play baseball anymore. Where else were they going to get them from?[/quote]
puerto rico is part of america. [/quote]
isn’t it like the 51st state?
Player presented with jersey…and that is the number he will actually wear
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And also, re: the Sox:
For some reason, I always really liked the link uniforms. Maybe it’s because these particular ones look link, at least with the lettering on the front and the all-blue look. For some reason I like that all-blue look.
[quote comment=”277971″][quote comment=”277951″]I was watching parts of the DET/MIN game last night and wondered something about the jerseys. The tiger’s horrible (in my opinon) away unis have ‘Detroit’ across the chest with two buttons close together above it. Assuming they do this so no buttons are in the name on the chest. But when the Tigers are at home, they have the same button placement even though their awesome home uni only has a old english D on the side of the chest, nothing across the middle. But still wear the buttons like they have something in the middel. Is this a league wide thing, or do some teams have different button schemes for home/away jerseys?
If this has been touched on before I apologize.[/quote]
What’s wrong with the Tigers’ road jerseys?[/quote]
Don’t like the cursive font of ‘Detroit’. Or the orange highlights in the wordmark and the hat. A nice radially arched block type of font saying ‘DETROIT’ would look better to me.
Regarding the Jays playing away from home on Canada: they actually have requested to play away from home the last few years on Canada day: so much of Toronto takes off to their cottages this weekend that attendance on Canada was terrible.
Scheduling them in Seattle over Canada Day is actually brilliant: the Vancouver Jays fans can make the trip to Seattle very easily given the long weekend. I don’t see why they couldn’t wear their special uniforms in Seattle (or at least the stupid holiday hats), but what do I know.
I was just watching the 1992 Packers Bengals game and noticed that Tim McGee had an 8
I was just watching the 1992 Packers vs. Bengals game on NFL Network and noticed that Bengals WR Tim McGee had a handwritten 81 on his helmet, anyone know what this is about?
[quote comment=”277965″][quote comment=”277906″]T-Ball returns to the White House South Lawn
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ummmmmmmmmm…puerto rico flag wristbands??[/quote]
ummmmm…the team is from puerto rico
[quote comment=”277975″][quote comment=”277970″][quote comment=”277965″][quote comment=”277906″]
ummmmmmmmmm…puerto rico flag wristbands??[/quote]
Well, yeah! American kids don’t play baseball anymore. Where else were they going to get them from?[/quote]
puerto rico is part of america. [/quote]
isn’t it like the 51st state?[/quote]
No, we took them over in the Puertorican War.
[quote comment=”277956″][quote comment=”277910″]I have to agree with MLB’s lameness on not giving Toronto a home date for Canada Day. Like you said, it’s ONE day of the year for ONE team in Canada. Would that be that difficult? Especially in light of all the other concessions they make in the schedule (are two NYY/NYM and CHC/CWS series REALLY necessary?)
That all being said, would there be any reason the Jays couldn’t just wear a special uni today even though they are on the road? I have to say, I’ve always enjoyed the Canada Day unis, at least with the prior generation uniform (I really like that red cap with the blue bill and tried unsuccessfully to obtain one). I know they aren’t the most visually appealing things but I like the uniqueness of them doing for one game a year.
Also, I think Jason Bay and any other Canadian-born players should be permitted to wear a Canadian flag patch on their jersey or cap on 7/1.[/quote]
The Boston Red Sox get to play the tradition card for a home matinée every Patriots’ Day, designed to finish right before the Boston Marathon, which is also on Patriots’ Day. So if MLB will make a trivial concession for a Commonwealth of Massachusetts civic holiday, why can’t the Canadian team play ball in their region (read: country) for that national holiday?[/quote]
Actually, teams have to send MLB a request to have a certain date at home. Boston requests every year to have a home game on the day of the Boston Marathon. It shouldn’t be MLB’s job to track each cities traditions and holidays and schedule accordingly.
The MLB schedule is done by hand each year by an independent group of people. Their job is hard enough without 30 teams sending in requests for home games on certain days.
Toronto didn’t send a request for a home game on July 1st so it wasn’t guaranteed.
I love bashing Selig as much as the next person, but this one is on Toronto
[quote comment=”277982″]I was just watching the 1992 Packers vs. Bengals game on NFL Network and noticed that Bengals WR Tim McGee had a handwritten 81 on his helmet, anyone know what this is about?[/quote]
1992 Bengals? could it have been for Eddie Brown, that is who wore 81 in 92 …
[quote comment=”277986″][quote comment=”277982″]I was just watching the 1992 Packers vs. Bengals game on NFL Network and noticed that Bengals WR Tim McGee had a handwritten 81 on his helmet, anyone know what this is about?[/quote]
1992 Bengals? could it have been for Eddie Brown, that is who wore 81 in 92 …[/quote]
or was it Carl Pickens … Brown’s last year with 81 may have been a year earlier
[quote comment=”277977″]And also, re: the Sox:
For some reason, I always really liked the link uniforms. Maybe it’s because these particular ones look link, at least with the lettering on the front and the all-blue look. For some reason I like that all-blue look.[/quote]
As do I.
The White Sox look really good in navy tops and navy pants, if for no other reason than it allows them to wear… white socks.
[quote comment=”277965″][quote comment=”277906″]T-Ball returns to the White House South Lawn
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ummmmmmmmmm…puerto rico flag wristbands??[/quote]
the team is from puerto rico… so i gather it works out.
[quote comment=”277972″]
puerto rico is part of america.[/quote]
So is Chile.
[quote comment=”277990″][quote comment=”277972″]
puerto rico is part of america.[/quote]
So is Chile.[/quote]
You mean Chili’s.
[quote comment=”277979″]Regarding the Jays playing away from home on Canada: they actually have requested to play away from home the last few years on Canada day: so much of Toronto takes off to their cottages this weekend that attendance on Canada was terrible.
[/quote]
Interesting
I guess it makes sense, though it seems like bad PR to me to not be home on Canada Day.
Paul Lukas looks forward to his complimentary muffin basket from the Chicago Tourism Bureau.
Oh, do you know the muffin man?
[quote comment=”277992″][quote comment=”277979″]Regarding the Jays playing away from home on Canada: they actually have requested to play away from home the last few years on Canada day: so much of Toronto takes off to their cottages this weekend that attendance on Canada was terrible.
[/quote]
Interesting
I guess it makes sense, though it seems like bad PR to me to not be home on Canada Day.[/quote]
And, if that’s the case, then the city of Toronto does a HORRIBLE job marketing itself! Imagine not having ball games in New York, Chicago, or L.A. intentionally on July 4th because “nobody would be in town anyway”. Ridiculous.
I was reading the link and the below question sounded familiar. Charles J. must be a UniWatch reader…
Question –> Like many others, I loved seeing the Cubs in the 1948 “throwback” uniforms. But was a mistake made on the caps? I’m rather sure in ’48 that the cap was Cubbie blue (matching the great striped sox) with a solid red “C,” such as the one sold by MLB as the Cubs’ 1938-56 Cooperstown cap. Am I right or wrong?
— Charles J., Tyler, Texas
Answer –> Yes, the caps were wrong. I’m told there was a problem getting a perfect match to the ’48 caps.
[quote comment=”277993″]Paul Lukas looks forward to his complimentary muffin basket from the Chicago Tourism Bureau.
Oh, do you know the muffin man?[/quote]
i know the muffin man
[quote comment=”277996″][quote comment=”277993″]Paul Lukas looks forward to his complimentary muffin basket from the Chicago Tourism Bureau.
Oh, do you know the muffin man?[/quote]
i know the muffin man[/quote]
The muffin man? The muffin man?
Where does he reside, if I may ask?
you know damn well where he lives
Teams don’t necessarily want to be home on the major holidays.
A few years ago, I read an article about how the Royals’ schedule came to be. I was a little surprised to read that they generally don’t want to be home on Memorial Day or Labor Day, because weeknight games when school is in session (and all schools in this area will be in session for at least one of those games) are attendance death for the Royals. Add in the “gone to the lake” and “having a big cookout” crowds, and it becomes a tough ticket to sell.
(Of course, the 13 years of horrible baseball doesn’t help, either.)
[quote comment=”277994″][quote comment=”277992″][quote comment=”277979″]Regarding the Jays playing away from home on Canada: they actually have requested to play away from home the last few years on Canada day: so much of Toronto takes off to their cottages this weekend that attendance on Canada was terrible.
[/quote]
Interesting
I guess it makes sense, though it seems like bad PR to me to not be home on Canada Day.[/quote]
And, if that’s the case, then the city of Toronto does a HORRIBLE job marketing itself! Imagine not having ball games in New York, Chicago, or L.A. intentionally on July 4th because “nobody would be in town anyway”. Ridiculous.[/quote]
I agree – though you’d never hear that from native Torontonians. TO is the center of Canada and, by most of their opinions, North America. If people think NYers and Bostonians etc… are arrogant about their city, they’ve never met Toronto natives.
As to the jerseys – I really like the recent all-black jerseys, though if they could remove the red highlights from the front logo, that’d be fantastic.
[quote comment=”277996″][quote comment=”277993″]
“Oh, do you know the muffin man?”[/quote]
“The muffin man? The muffin man?
“Where does he reside, if I may ask?”[/quote]
Do you know the muffin man who lives on Drury Lane?
Now let’s stop this before today’s listings becomes an showing of Shrek, mmmmkay?
[quote comment=”277999″]Teams don’t necessarily want to be home on the major holidays.
A few years ago, I read an article about how the Royals’ schedule came to be. I was a little surprised to read that they generally don’t want to be home on Memorial Day or Labor Day, because weeknight games when school is in session (and all schools in this area will be in session for at least one of those games) are attendance death for the Royals. Add in the “gone to the lake” and “having a big cookout” crowds, and it becomes a tough ticket to sell.
(Of course, the 13 years of horrible baseball doesn’t help, either.)[/quote]
Crap, another Jim, I really have to get another handle.
[quote comment=”278002″][quote comment=”277999″]Teams don’t necessarily want to be home on the major holidays.
A few years ago, I read an article about how the Royals’ schedule came to be. I was a little surprised to read that they generally don’t want to be home on Memorial Day or Labor Day, because weeknight games when school is in session (and all schools in this area will be in session for at least one of those games) are attendance death for the Royals. Add in the “gone to the lake” and “having a big cookout” crowds, and it becomes a tough ticket to sell.
(Of course, the 13 years of horrible baseball doesn’t help, either.)[/quote]
Crap, another Jim, I really have to get another handle.[/quote]
And this, my friend, is why I’m now “Walaitis” … I have YET to find another of THOSE on this site!
BTW … anyone else get the comical “your anti-spam word is invalid” message a while back … when it was actually showing the antispam word to be “xxx invalid xxx”. That probably shouldn’t have made me giggle as much as it did.
[quote comment=”278003″][quote comment=”278002″][quote comment=”277999″]Teams don’t necessarily want to be home on the major holidays.
A few years ago, I read an article about how the Royals’ schedule came to be. I was a little surprised to read that they generally don’t want to be home on Memorial Day or Labor Day, because weeknight games when school is in session (and all schools in this area will be in session for at least one of those games) are attendance death for the Royals. Add in the “gone to the lake” and “having a big cookout” crowds, and it becomes a tough ticket to sell.
(Of course, the 13 years of horrible baseball doesn’t help, either.)[/quote]
Crap, another Jim, I really have to get another handle.[/quote]
And this, my friend, is why I’m now “Walaitis” … I have YET to find another of THOSE on this site!
BTW … anyone else get the comical “your anti-spam word is invalid” message a while back … when it was actually showing the antispam word to be “xxx invalid xxx”. That probably shouldn’t have made me giggle as much as it did.[/quote]
Your right, another handle is needed. I’ll have to mull it over and return tomorrow with a new name. Maybe….. SUPER JIM!! Ok maybe not.
Pro athletes sure do look different out of uniform …
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[quote comment=”277987″][quote comment=”277986″][quote comment=”277982″]I was just watching the 1992 Packers vs. Bengals game on NFL Network and noticed that Bengals WR Tim McGee had a handwritten 81 on his helmet, anyone know what this is about?[/quote]
1992 Bengals? could it have been for Eddie Brown, that is who wore 81 in 92 …[/quote]
or was it Carl Pickens … Brown’s last year with 81 may have been a year earlier[/quote]
Also from that game, I noticed two variations on the Packers uniform numbers. Several players had the very thick front and back numbers (a la the current Cowboys) and #50 (Holland?) had a number style completely different from everyone else on the team.
NFL Network will be re-broadcasting this game adnausia, so I will try to get screen-caps.
Paul wrote in the ESPN column:
“Uniqueness Factor: Nobody else has ever worn anything remotely like this on a baseball diamond.”
I know he probably meant MAJOR LEAGUE baseball diamond, but in case he didn’t:
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[quote comment=”277995″]I was reading the link and the below question sounded familiar. Charles J. must be a UniWatch reader…
Question –> Like many others, I loved seeing the Cubs in the 1948 “throwback” uniforms. But was a mistake made on the caps? I’m rather sure in ’48 that the cap was Cubbie blue (matching the great striped sox) with a solid red “C,” such as the one sold by MLB as the Cubs’ 1938-56 Cooperstown cap. Am I right or wrong?
— Charles J., Tyler, Texas
Answer –> Yes, the caps were wrong. I’m told there was a problem getting a perfect match to the ’48 caps.[/quote]
What a lame-ass answer.
Yeah, finding royal blue hats with a red button is a bitch. Cubs probably need to order their regular home hats YEARS in advance.
Or maybe it was about the “C”. There WAS that widely reported red felt shortage that put so much pressure on the Santa suit industry this spring.
(rolld eyes)
[quote comment=”278007″]Paul wrote in the ESPN column:
“Uniqueness Factor: Nobody else has ever worn anything remotely like this on a baseball diamond.”
I know he probably meant MAJOR LEAGUE baseball diamond, but in case he didn’t:
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that you larry…tritons…1985?
[quote comment=”278009″][quote comment=”278007″]Paul wrote in the ESPN column:
“Uniqueness Factor: Nobody else has ever worn anything remotely like this on a baseball diamond.”
I know he probably meant MAJOR LEAGUE baseball diamond, but in case he didn’t:
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that you larry…tritons…1985?[/quote]
Ok, you got the ’85 from the file name, how did you get Tritons?
[quote comment=”278010″][quote comment=”278009″]that you larry…tritons…1985?[/quote]
Ok, you got the ’85 from the file name, how did you get Tritons?[/quote]
well…is it?
[quote comment=”278011″][quote comment=”278010″][quote comment=”278009″]that you larry…tritons…1985?[/quote]
Ok, you got the ’85 from the file name, how did you get Tritons?[/quote]
well…is it?[/quote]
well…yeah, but who the hell knows that?
[quote]well…yeah, but who the hell knows that?[/quote]
muahahahahahahahaha
…but seriously…good lookin pic…great stirrups…i’d say something about the hair, but my doo in 1985 was nothing to speak of…i wish i’da spent my college days in st. pete instead of the festering carbunkle of upstate new york tho
[quote comment=”278013″][quote]well…yeah, but who the hell knows that?[/quote]
muahahahahahahahaha
…but seriously…good lookin pic…great stirrups…i’d say something about the hair, but my doo in 1985 was nothing to speak of…i wish i’da spent my college days in st. pete instead of the festering carbunkle of upstate new york tho[/quote]
Actually, the hair doo (or don’t) is pretty much the same but since it is all still there, I’ve got no complaints.
[quote comment=”278013″][quote]well…yeah, but who the hell knows that?[/quote]
muahahahahahahahaha
…but seriously…good lookin pic…great stirrups…i’d say something about the hair, but my doo in 1985 was nothing to speak of…i wish i’da spent my college days in st. pete instead of the festering carbunkle of upstate new york tho[/quote]
St. Pete? Seriously? Yuck?
[quote comment=”278015″][quote comment=”278013″][quote]well…yeah, but who the hell knows that?[/quote]
muahahahahahahahaha
…but seriously…good lookin pic…great stirrups…i’d say something about the hair, but my doo in 1985 was nothing to speak of…i wish i’da spent my college days in st. pete instead of the festering carbunkle of upstate new york tho[/quote]
St. Pete? Seriously? Yuck?[/quote]
There are enough trashy bars in St. Pete for even you, Marty ;-)! The baseball season was longer than two weeks, too.
[quote comment=”278016″][quote comment=”278015″][quote comment=”278013″][quote]well…yeah, but who the hell knows that?[/quote]
muahahahahahahahaha
…but seriously…good lookin pic…great stirrups…i’d say something about the hair, but my doo in 1985 was nothing to speak of…i wish i’da spent my college days in st. pete instead of the festering carbunkle of upstate new york tho[/quote]
St. Pete? Seriously? Yuck?[/quote]
There are enough trashy bars in St. Pete for even you, Marty ;-)! The baseball season was longer than two weeks, too.[/quote]
Oh, and did I mention the best team in Baseball?
[quote comment=”277939″]Check out this promotion at Lids.com for a Spike Lee-designed cap. If that pennant-covered Yankees cap is any indication of what’s coming, the anticipation is killing me.
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The design is killing me….
[quote comment=”278018″][quote comment=”277939″]Check out this promotion at Lids.com for a Spike Lee-designed cap. If that pennant-covered Yankees cap is any indication of what’s coming, the anticipation is killing me.
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The design is killing me….[/quote]
Creative design? It’s a bunch of little pennants stuck on a Yankee cap. BFD!
[quote comment=”277984″][quote comment=”277975″][quote comment=”277970″][quote comment=”277965″][quote comment=”277906″]
ummmmmmmmmm…puerto rico flag wristbands??[/quote]
Well, yeah! American kids don’t play baseball anymore. Where else were they going to get them from?[/quote]
puerto rico is part of america. [/quote]
isn’t it like the 51st state?[/quote]
No, we took them over in the Puertorican War.[/quote]
No, they’re one of six non-voting colonies — along with Samoa, Guam, the Northern Marianas, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and the District of Columbia. I could get on my democratization soapbox, but I leave that to others.
[quote comment=”278017″][quote comment=”278016″][quote comment=”278015″][quote comment=”278013″][quote]well…yeah, but who the hell knows that?[/quote]
muahahahahahahahaha
…but seriously…good lookin pic…great stirrups…i’d say something about the hair, but my doo in 1985 was nothing to speak of…i wish i’da spent my college days in st. pete instead of the festering carbunkle of upstate new york tho[/quote]
St. Pete? Seriously? Yuck?[/quote]
There are enough trashy bars in St. Pete for even you, Marty ;-)! The baseball season was longer than two weeks, too.[/quote]
Oh, and did I mention the best team in Baseball?[/quote]
… and I’d been SO good about that, too …
Regarding the ’81 Sox prototypes:
Did Larry Csonka or Joe Robbie have anything to do with the White Sox back then? Whenever I think about an aqua and orange uniform and a No. 39, it is only The Csonk that comes to mind.
[quote comment=”278017″][quote comment=”278016″]
There are enough trashy bars in St. Pete for even you, Marty ;-)! The baseball season was longer than two weeks, too.[/quote]
Oh, and did I mention the best team in Baseball?[/quote]
the eckert college tritons?
edkerd…with a d…
damn too fast typing
[quote comment=”278024″]ECKERD…with a “d”…
damn too fast typing[/quote]
fixed
and now…so…so tired
[quote comment=”278020″][quote comment=”277984″][quote comment=”277975″][quote comment=”277970″][quote comment=”277965″][quote comment=”277906″]
ummmmmmmmmm…puerto rico flag wristbands??[/quote]
Well, yeah! American kids don’t play baseball anymore. Where else were they going to get them from?[/quote]
puerto rico is part of america. [/quote]
isn’t it like the 51st state?[/quote]
No, we took them over in the Puertorican War.[/quote]
No, they’re one of six non-voting colonies — along with Samoa, Guam, the Northern Marianas, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and the District of Columbia. I could get on my democratization soapbox, but I leave that to others.[/quote]
Non-voting colonies? I’m assuming you mean that they cannot vote in the presidential election. If so, you can’t lump Washington, DC in that group as those citizens CAN and DO vote in presidential elections.
[quote comment=”278019″][quote comment=”278018″][quote comment=”277939″]Check out this promotion at Lids.com for a Spike Lee-designed cap. If that pennant-covered Yankees cap is any indication of what’s coming, the anticipation is killing me.
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The design is killing me….[/quote]
Creative design? It’s a bunch of little pennants stuck on a Yankee cap. BFD![/quote]
i dint count, but imo guess there’s like 26 of em…either that or 39…
Just found out that the Mariners will do a TBTC on July 19 to celebrate the 20th Anniversary (1988) of Ken Griffey Jr.’s rookie season with the M’s against Cleveland. Hell, Griffey could be with ’em by then. Ah, the bad old daze of the Kingdome.
[quote comment=”278028″]Just found out that the Mariners will do a TBTC on July 19 to celebrate the 20th Anniversary (1988) of Ken Griffey Jr.’s rookie season with the M’s against Cleveland. Hell, Griffey could be with ’em by then. Ah, the bad old daze of the Kingdome.[/quote]
There doing a night celebrating a player who’s currently playing for another team?
Really?
Does anyone else find that weird?
[quote comment=”278029″][quote comment=”278028″]Just found out that the Mariners will do a TBTC on July 19 to celebrate the 20th Anniversary (1988) of Ken Griffey Jr.’s rookie season with the M’s against Cleveland. Hell, Griffey could be with ’em by then. Ah, the bad old daze of the Kingdome.[/quote]
There doing a night celebrating a player who’s currently playing for another team?
Really?
Does anyone else find that weird?[/quote]
A little. But Kevin Millar also threw out the first pitch at Fenway while he was an active player on the Orioles.
[quote comment=”278030″][quote comment=”278029″][quote comment=”278028″]Just found out that the Mariners will do a TBTC on July 19 to celebrate the 20th Anniversary (1988) of Ken Griffey Jr.’s rookie season with the M’s against Cleveland. Hell, Griffey could be with ’em by then. Ah, the bad old daze of the Kingdome.[/quote]
There doing a night celebrating a player who’s currently playing for another team?
Really?
Does anyone else find that weird?[/quote]
A little. But Kevin Millar also threw out the first pitch at Fenway while he was an active player on the Orioles.[/quote]
Also, I attended 2 separate pre-game celebrations at the Ballpark in Arlington for Rafael Palmeiro and Ivan Rodriguez after they left the Rangers. Sometimes that’s all these franchises (younger teams like Seattle, Texas with little to celebrate) have to cling to.
Today’s ESPN.com column brought a few things to mind:
– I now understand why Mike Piazza was the only player wearing his uniform jersey during batting practice the day before the 1994 All-Star Game; the Dodgers didn’t have a BP jersey yet.
– The only game I attended at Comiskey was in ’87, and there was an article in the program about White Sox uniform history. That was my introduction to Marc Okkonen, and what became some familiar illustrations.
– I’ve seen the 1939 Pirate uniform before; they wore them as throwbacks in a 1992 game against the similarly-outfitted Giants. The 1993 Topps Barry Bonds card shows him in that uniform. (In ’93, the Pirates and Reds wore 1925 throwbacks.)
quote comment=\”278026\”][quote comment=\”278020\”][quote comment=\”277984\”][quote comment=\”277975\”][quote comment=\”277970\”][quote comment=\”277965\”][quote comment=\”277906\”]
ummmmmmmmmm…puerto rico flag wristbands??[/quote]
Well, yeah! American kids don\’t play baseball anymore. Where else were they going to get them from?[/quote]
puerto rico is part of america. [/quote]
isn\’t it like the 51st state?[/quote]
No, we took them over in the Puertorican War.[/quote]
No, they\’re one of six non-voting colonies — along with Samoa, Guam, the Northern Marianas, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and the District of Columbia. I could get on my democratization soapbox, but I leave that to others.[/quote]
Non-voting colonies? I\’m assuming you mean that they cannot vote in the presidential election. If so, you can\’t lump Washington, DC in that group as those citizens CAN and DO vote in presidential elections.[/quote]
And Guam. They had Democratic Primaries and Obama won by 7 votes…lol
[quote comment=”278026″][quote comment=”278020″][quote comment=”277984″][quote comment=”277975″][quote comment=”277970″][quote comment=”277965″][quote comment=”277906″]
ummmmmmmmmm…puerto rico flag wristbands??[/quote]
Well, yeah! American kids don’t play baseball anymore. Where else were they going to get them from?[/quote]
puerto rico is part of america. [/quote]
isn’t it like the 51st state?[/quote]
No, we took them over in the Puertorican War.[/quote]
No, they’re one of six non-voting colonies — along with Samoa, Guam, the Northern Marianas, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and the District of Columbia. I could get on my democratization soapbox, but I leave that to others.[/quote]
Non-voting colonies? I’m assuming you mean that they cannot vote in the presidential election. If so, you can’t lump Washington, DC in that group as those citizens CAN and DO vote in presidential elections.[/quote]
There is no voting representation in Congress or the Senate. There are delegates and shadow senators, but they don’t vote as a rule. DC and the other five colonies have NO VOICE in your government. Zero. At least Martinique is in the French legislature, and some of the Netherlands Antilles will be in the Dutch parliament as of next year.
[quote comment=”278030″][quote comment=”278029″][quote comment=”278028″]Just found out that the Mariners will do a TBTC on July 19 to celebrate the 20th Anniversary (1988) of Ken Griffey Jr.’s rookie season with the M’s against Cleveland. Hell, Griffey could be with ’em by then. Ah, the bad old daze of the Kingdome.[/quote]
There doing a night celebrating a player who’s currently playing for another team?
Really?
Does anyone else find that weird?[/quote]
A little. But Kevin Millar also threw out the first pitch at Fenway while he was an active player on the Orioles.[/quote]
I believe Harold Baines had his number retired by the Sox (after leaving them for Texas) while still playing- and then returned to the team later. He played for the Sox with his number retired.
[quote comment=”277978″][quote comment=”277971″][quote comment=”277951″]I was watching parts of the DET/MIN game last night and wondered something about the jerseys. The tiger’s horrible (in my opinon) away unis have ‘Detroit’ across the chest with two buttons close together above it. Assuming they do this so no buttons are in the name on the chest. But when the Tigers are at home, they have the same button placement even though their awesome home uni only has a old english D on the side of the chest, nothing across the middle. But still wear the buttons like they have something in the middel. Is this a league wide thing, or do some teams have different button schemes for home/away jerseys?
If this has been touched on before I apologize.[/quote]
What’s wrong with the Tigers’ road jerseys?[/quote]
Don’t like the cursive font of ‘Detroit’. Or the orange highlights in the wordmark and the hat. A nice radially arched block type of font saying ‘DETROIT’ would look better to me.[/quote]
Really. I always thought the orange worked. In fact, I always found that radially arched DETROIT that they used from the mid-60s to the late 80s was really boring looking. The script is cool, since they were the first ones to use that style of script on a jersey way back in the 30s (or 40s maybe). And I dunno, I think just navy on black would be really boring…imagine that with the radial arching and the same cap…God, we’d be the fucking Yankees…
[quote]you can’t lump Washington, DC in that group as those citizens CAN and DO vote in presidential elections.[/quote]
unlike florida
I watched the game the other day with the Brewer fan who got to go on the field and play catch with Cameron. when they interviewed him during the game, he said he was a high school teacher as well as their baseball coach, and his team wears blue pinstripes like the throwback sheets jersey he had. it was basically the sheets jersey, plus his managerial outfit for the complete uniform.
In response to all the arguing about interleague match ups, they should just add expand two AL teams in the West and Central for 16 in each I’d suggest Portland and Louisville, because Portland’s a great place, and deserves more than one professional franchise, and if the league is going to bring back the Washington Nationals, there simply HAS to be a team called the Louisville Sluggers!
[quote comment=”278038″]In response to all the arguing about interleague match ups, they should just add expand two AL teams in the West and Central for 16 in each I’d suggest Portland and Louisville, because Portland’s a great place, and deserves more than one professional franchise, and if the league is going to bring back the Washington Nationals, there simply HAS to be a team called the Louisville Sluggers![/quote]
i have argued (on here even) for expansion for some time…but slightly differently from your suggestion…either have 2 leagues with 2 8-team divisions, or like the nfl…2 leagues with 4 4-team divisions…fantastically easy scheduling and also even interplague division
keep the 4 playoff teams in each league, with either 2 division champs and 2 WCs (2 division format) or 4 division winners
keep the 162 game schedule…and same (best 3 of 5, 4 of 7 & 4 of 7) playoff format
done and done
and i think portland and vegas should get the 2 new teams
[quote comment=”278039″][quote comment=”278038″]In response to all the arguing about interleague match ups, they should just add expand two AL teams in the West and Central for 16 in each I’d suggest Portland and Louisville, because Portland’s a great place, and deserves more than one professional franchise, and if the league is going to bring back the Washington Nationals, there simply HAS to be a team called the Louisville Sluggers![/quote]
i have argued (on here even) for expansion for some time…but slightly differently from your suggestion…either have 2 leagues with 2 8-team divisions, or like the nfl…2 leagues with 4 4-team divisions…fantastically easy scheduling and also even interplague division
keep the 4 playoff teams in each league, with either 2 division champs and 2 WCs (2 division format) or 4 division winners
keep the 162 game schedule…and same (best 3 of 5, 4 of 7 & 4 of 7) playoff format
done and done
and i think portland and vegas should get the 2 new teams[/quote]
I agree that there can be realignment to 8 divisions in baseball if they expand two more teams, but I don’t think Vegas should get a team. Call it a personal bias, but I hope Vegas never gets a team. It’s something of an accomplishment that the city is so feared by any and all professional leagues. That and they’re too far west to be in the AL Central…
[quote]I don’t think Vegas should get a team…they’re too far west to be in the AL Central…[/quote]
well…you’d put them in the west and more texas to another division (either ‘north’ ‘south’ or whatever they’d call the two ‘central’ divisions)
BTW, am I the only one who thinks it would be a good idea, instead of expansion, for two Triple A teams with long histories and established fan bases to be “called up” to the majors?
It would be much simpler than trying to create love for an expansion team, all they need is a bigger stadium. Sure, there would have to be re-shuffling among various MLB team affiliates, but it seems they shift often enough anyway, right?
[quote comment=”278039″][quote comment=”278038″]In response to all the arguing about interleague match ups, they should just add expand two AL teams in the West and Central for 16 in each I’d suggest Portland and Louisville, because Portland’s a great place, and deserves more than one professional franchise, and if the league is going to bring back the Washington Nationals, there simply HAS to be a team called the Louisville Sluggers![/quote]
i have argued (on here even) for expansion for some time…but slightly differently from your suggestion…either have 2 leagues with 2 8-team divisions, or like the nfl…2 leagues with 4 4-team divisions…fantastically easy scheduling and also even interplague division
keep the 4 playoff teams in each league, with either 2 division champs and 2 WCs (2 division format) or 4 division winners
keep the 162 game schedule…and same (best 3 of 5, 4 of 7 & 4 of 7) playoff format
done and done
and i think portland and vegas should get the 2 new teams[/quote]
I brought this up two months ago here. I suggest sending Milwaukee back to the AL for two 15 team leagues. Apparently that would screw up the scheduling. We don’t need two more teams to continue diluting the pool of available talent. If anything, let’s cut two teams. Any suggestions?
Lastly, what about converting the LCS and WS to the NBA format from 2-3-2 to 2-2-1-1-1?
[quote]I suggest sending Milwaukee back to the AL for two 15 team leagues. Apparently that would screw up the scheduling.[/quote]
you have to have even numbered leagues…otherwise you’d have one interplague series every time…
[quote] We don’t need two more teams to continue diluting the pool of available talent. If anything, let’s cut two teams. Any suggestions?[/quote]
won’t happen…mlbpa would never cut 50 jobs…and we can expand the rosters by 2 more spots per team
i don’t know that expansion is the answer, per se…im simply suggesting it for scheduling purposes…32 teams in two 16 team leagues is absolutely PERFECT symmetry
the current format is shit…
so…i don’t have an answer except for the expansion idea…which, again, i don’t know is an answer
personally i’d like to go back to an unbalanced schedule and have two divisions (and ditch the interleague)…but IL is too damn popular
*should say we CAN’T expand by…
Blue Jays are wearing the navy blue hats with the flag background under their logo tonight in the game at Seattle.
Working on an image –
just imagine the reaction if Selig announced that this year’s winners of the International and Pacific Leagues (AAA) would be promoted to the Major Leagues next season.
Pande-freakin-monium.
Personally I’d be rooting for the Portland Beavers and Durham Bulls…
[quote]personally i’d like to go back to an unbalanced schedule and have two divisions (and ditch the interleague)…but IL is too damn popular[/quote]
christ…i meant BALANCED schedule (where you play each time the same number of games)…rather than the unbalanced schedule where you play your intradivision rivals like 72 times and get like 2 series against your interdivision rivals
[quote](where you play each time the same number of games)[/quote]
and by “time” i of course mean “team”
/going to bed now
Pictures of the aforementioned Blue Jays caps link and link.
[quote comment=”278047″]just imagine the reaction if Selig announced that this year’s winners of the International and Pacific Leagues (AAA) would be promoted to the Major Leagues next season.
Pande-freakin-monium.
Personally I’d be rooting for the Portland Beavers and Durham Bulls…[/quote]
Not so easy.
Helps if teams have a) ownership with deep enough pockets to pay expansion fees and that existing owners would approve, b) operating capital to run a major league team, including the hefty and immediate increase in payroll, c) a modern stadium with both the capacity and corporate luxury boxes to generate necessary revenue from same or d) a community willing to build one quickly, e) a market deemed large enough to sustain a major league team, f) no proximity to existing teams or funds to pay any territorial infringement fees (for example, Reds owners would shit if a team went into Louisville; likewise Mariners re: Portland).
And that’s the short list.
one last thing…remember the link first posted on here last friday and featured in the ticker on monday?
well he caught link at the cell tonight
[quote comment=”278051″][quote comment=”278047″]just imagine the reaction if Selig announced that this year’s winners of the International and Pacific Leagues (AAA) would be promoted to the Major Leagues next season.
Pande-freakin-monium.
Personally I’d be rooting for the Portland Beavers and Durham Bulls…[/quote]
Not so easy.
Helps if teams have a) ownership with deep enough pockets to pay expansion fees and that existing owners would approve, b) operating capital to run a major league team, including the hefty and immediate increase in payroll, c) a modern stadium with both the capacity and corporate luxury boxes to generate necessary revenue from same or d) a community willing to build one quickly, e) a market deemed large enough to sustain a major league team, f) no proximity to existing teams or funds to pay any territorial infringement fees (for example, Reds owners would shit if a team went into Louisville; likewise Mariners re: Portland).
And that’s the short list.[/quote]
i’ll grant you the cincinnati/louisville fight, but portland is too far away to be “territorial” for the mariners, they have the rest of washington (and probably idaho too) but i need to work in 5 1/2 hrs, so i should be saying goodnight now.
I’ll probably wind up re-posting this tm, but here it is anyway:
If MLB chooses to expand (which I would support), these are the cities that I believe could handle a MLB team successfully:
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The “Expos” Options (Cities that were on the table in ’04 for relocation of the expos, minus the international options):
Portland, Oregon- Already has one major team, however I feel that it is too close to Seattle/SanFran/Oakland to be able to pick up fans quickly and some fans will arguably have too strong ties to switch to a new team.
Las Vegas, Nevada- Large City, Large Tourist Draw, however there are many problems with this one, particularly legalized sports betting and the competition for residents’ entertainment budget. Baseball has always been anti-gambling (duh) and it is unclear weather a baseball team could pull people away from their craps tables and conventions for an attraction one could find in many other cities.
Norfolk, Virginia- Still Viable, has a decent population, and would fill in a gap in the mlb map.
Northern Virginia- Not going to happen, to close to DC, Baltimore to have a large fan draw.
New Jersey- As much as I love my home state, I would still root for the Yanks if there was a NJ team, and I feel that most others would root for their current allegiances too, and would further crowd an already crowded region (Yanks, Mets, and Philies hats are seen in almost equal numbers here, although I think the yanks have a slight lead).
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The Domestic Options:
Boise, Idaho- Fills in a Gap in the MLB Map, opens up to a new group of fans, however may not be large enough to maintain a team.
Salt Lake City, Utah- One of the more viable options. Fills in a MLB map gap, has a large population, and the Olympics have shown that the city has a large sports draw.
Omaha, Nebraska- This one is really just about filling in a gap and drawing in new fans, however I don’t see it happening.
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma- Fills in a Gap, and I could really see this panning out and drawing lots of new fans due to the lack of major sports in the city, and it has the population to maintain a team.
New Orleans, Louisiana- Probably one of the best options, has a sizable population, and can maintain a team as the saints have shown.
Indianapolis, Indiana- Colts have shown it can maintain a team, however the area is cluttered with many MLB teams.
Louisville, Kentucky- One I really want to see happen, fills in a gap, has a population to maintain a team, and who can deny how awesome it would be to have a team called the Louisville sluggers?
Nashville & Memphis, Tennessee- Only really about filling in a gap, I don’t see it happening.
Montgomery & Birmingham, Alabama- Could really happen, with large populations, they could sustain a team easily, however the market may be cornered by the Braves.
Charlotte, North Carolina- Panthers have proved this could work, and would fill in a significant hole in the mlb map.
Buffalo, New York- I could actually see this happen, even though lately the Bills have had a hard time drawing, their minor league team still draws large crowds, and even though the argument of too many Yankee/Mets/Red Sox fans to draw fans could be made, I think it’s located far enough from any of these cities to actually create its own fan base. And if it does happen the team has to be called the wings. How awesome would that uniform be?
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International Options:
San Juan, Puerto Rico- Would love to see this happen, and the Expos Games there in ’03 and the WBC have proved it can handle baseball
Vancouver, Canada- I Would LOVE to see this. May be encroaching on Mariners Turf, but it time for a second team to return to Canada, and Vancover would be a great place to have this happen.
Montreal, Canada- I know what you’re thinking: we just left. But hear me out. If the city can promise to build the new stadium, and the team can be properly managed, baseball could thrive again in Montreal.
Mexico City, Mexico- Doubt it will happen, but its still an Option
Monterrey, Mexico- Was on the table for the Expo’s move. Rich city with a baseball desire, but doubt it happens. It will be a while before MLB Expands south of the border.
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Looking at all this, These are the six options I would like to see/think are most viable:
1. New Orleans
2. Vancouver
3. San Juan
4. Louisville
5. Buffalo
6. Salt Lake City
Thoughts on this?
Either way, I think that it is clearly time for MLB to expand to 32 teams, and keep the leagues even.
[quote comment=”278051″][quote comment=”278047″]just imagine the reaction if Selig announced that this year’s winners of the International and Pacific Leagues (AAA) would be promoted to the Major Leagues next season.
Pande-freakin-monium.
Personally I’d be rooting for the Portland Beavers and Durham Bulls…[/quote]
Not so easy.
Helps if teams have a) ownership with deep enough pockets to pay expansion fees and that existing owners would approve, b) operating capital to run a major league team, including the hefty and immediate increase in payroll, c) a modern stadium with both the capacity and corporate luxury boxes to generate necessary revenue from same or d) a community willing to build one quickly, e) a market deemed large enough to sustain a major league team, f) no proximity to existing teams or funds to pay any territorial infringement fees (for example, Reds owners would shit if a team went into Louisville; likewise Mariners re: Portland).
And that’s the short list.[/quote]
I could be wrong, but I believe that’s done in European soccer leagues (EPL, if I’m not mistaken). If a team stinks it up they get demoted to a lower level, while another gets promoted to take its place.
Plus have four four-team divisions divided within two conferences, eliminate the wild card and have every team play 24 interleague games a year. Other suggestion: Put Colorado in the AL, because as we all know, baseball in Denver is an American League game.
I am watching the Jays/Mariners game and I like the blue caps the Jays are wearing.
I think they should consider using that as a road hat,but not with the Canada flag logo, just their normal logo and it also matchs the road uni’s quite well.
Eric Patterson of the Cubs did not have a C decal on his helmet when he pinch hit in the 8th inning against the Giants. Bob Brenly on the Cubs telecast said that he was technically out of uniform.
[quote comment=”278052″]one last thing…remember the link first posted on here last friday and featured in the ticker on monday?
well he caught link at the cell tonight[/quote]
link link pics of adam bender
note swisher’s excellent control in the second pic (first pitch)
Gee, the Red Sox always seem to end up in Boston on Patriots’ Day…