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I’ve Got a Brand New Pair of Roller Skates — and I’m Gonna Knock You Right on Your Fat Ass

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[Editor’s Note: Reader Randy Miller recently offered to guest-write an entry about a sport I know very little about. Here’s his report. — PL]

By Randy Miller

As a professor at the University of South Florida, I occasionally teach a class called Sports and Media. When I ask the students which were the first three sports to succeed on television, the answer never varies: They pick baseball, football, and basketball.

It’s a trick question, of course. The correct answer is boxing, pro wrestling, and roller derby, each of which became mainstays in televisions’s earliest days. The reason seems clear enough now — the old bulky cameras and small TV screens of the late ’40s were much better for showing a small enclosed area as opposed to the panorama of an outdoor field. No matter that only one of the three could truly be considered legitimate sport (and considering the mob influence on boxing at the time, maybe not even that).

I have a soft spot for the old roller derby unis, which had distinctive looks and interesting quirks. In the early TV days, the derby uniforms had to protect skaters while also differentiating between teams on the small black-and-white television screen. Football had yet to adopt the white-vs.-color jersey style on a regular basis, but the derby came up with an interesting alternative: The designated home team wore solid jerseys and the visitors wore stripes. In addition, each team wore distinctive numbers. For example, the Jersey Jolters wore numbers in the 20s, while the Brooklyn Red Devils wore numbers in the 60s. The San Francisco Bombers wore 31-39 with No. 40 reserved for star skater Charlie O’Connell. Males and females often shared the same number.

The jerseys were Durene with bright heavy-duty sateen shorts and light-fabric pants with leather padding for the knee, upper shin, and side of the thighs. There was also a provision for an additional pad, but many players chose not to use it, as skater Loretta Behrens recalled: “There was a pocket in the rear for a rubber sponge pad — as we called it, a butt pad — which many gals removed as it looked like we had a Kotex pad hanging out.” Not that Kotex wasn’t helpful elsewhere. “We put [Kotex] pads in our skates when our feet got sore and they soaked up sweat and protected against blisters,” Behrens said. (You can see more of her recollections on her web site.)

Eventually, the Derby settled in San Francisco, where skaters would spend a portion of the year skating in televised league games and the rest of the year traveling on a national tour. The jerseys became snazzier. Stripes no longer marked home and visiting teams but became incorporated into the familiar derby jersey style with candy-striped shoulder panels and sleeve striping. (Note the zipper on the Chiefs jersey, by the way — zippers were worn only by female skaters.) This style can be seen in pretty much any film or TV series that used roller derby as a backdrop, from Raquel Welch’s Kansas City Bomber [whose trailer is absolutely essential viewing — PL] to The Shaggy D.A. and Fantasy Island.

The San Francisco league eventually adopted various and somewhat innovative uniform styles, including these beauties worn by the Northeast Braves. The Bombers had several looks, and the Midwest Pioneers had off-center diagonal numbers.

Today, the sport has reinvented itself with a boom of women’s roller derby teams and leagues springing up around the country. Some of these teams have, er, interesting ideas about uniforms, to say the least.

For more historic derby photos, check out Banked Track Memories. The best source for DVDs of old derby games is Gary Powers, who runs the Roller Derby Foundation.

Roller Bonus: Paul here. By coincidence, shortly after Randy submitted that entry, Kenn Tomasch checked in with a roller derby item of his own: “Arizona Roller Derby had its championship match over the weekend. Afterwards, they retired the number of one of the women, who’s moving away or otherwise leaving roller derby or something (I wasn’t quite clear). Apparently they all choose numbers that mean something to them, and 282 is the telephone prefix (not the area code — the exchange) in Sedona, Arizona, where this young lady apparently lives. I got some interesting shots of NOBs and other things that these ladies wear, which you can see here.”

And then, by yet another coincidence, I got a note the very next day from longtime Uni Watch follower The Rev. Nørb, who informed me of yet another derby-related news item, this one involving a trademark dispute. I eagerly await Jeremy Brahm‘s report on Japanese roller derby, which I figure should be arriving any day now.

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Pedro Update: I’m holding off on coming up with an official Uni Watch name for Pedro Martinez’s perpetually unfastened second button until we can confirm or reject Roger Faso‘s claim that the point of the missed button is for Pedro to pull out his cross pendant and kiss it (which I’ve never noticed him doing, but Roger says he’s seen it). Meanwhile, Alexander Yellen notes that the missed button, by any name, has been part of Pedro’s repertoire for a while, as seen in these shots from the 2004 World Series.

Raffle Reminder: Today’s the last day to enter the raffle for the Don Larsen perfect game tickets. Details here. I’ll announce the winners on Monday.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Now that‘s a rally cap (thanks, Vince). ”¦ If you thought Nike’s bike-path decals were brilliant, check out Adidas’s latest viral marketing scheme (see sixth graf). ”¦ Really interesting article here about what it costs to outfit the Brewers (with thanks to Jason McDowell). ”¦ Yesterday I linked to this 1989 article about the Raleigh Athletic Equipment Company. That prompted the following reminiscence from Paul Wiederecht: “My mom, who worked in the Yankees front office from 1954-57 remembered that as the place that took care of the Yanks’ and all road clubs’ uniforms in New York. Back in the early ’70s she was looking for material to make a homemade KC Royals uni for my younger brother Larry, and she took all of us kids to Raleigh’s plant. What a place for a bunch of baseball-obsessed kids! Yankees unis, helmets, shoes, etc., as well as other baseball and football equipment all over the place!” Paul also pointed me toward this article (which begins with a vignette set in Raleigh’s plant) and this vintage ad. ”¦ C.J. Nitkowski, now pitching in Japan, recently had some trouble with his glove (with thanks to Tyler Kepner). ”¦ “Levi Leipheimer, the current U.S. road race [cycling] champ, rides for Astana, who wear teal and yellow (like the Kazakh flag),” writes Nolan Brett. “In his most recent race, he was wearing a green jersey (signifying points lead, I think) with the Astana crest on it (teal and yellow), with his red/white/blue shorts, helmet, and bike — not pretty. Plus, for the ultimate in bike geekery, note the red hoods on his brake levers to match the handlebar tape. Never seen those before. Very cool custom touch.” ”¦ Miuke Bonasia reports that Hickory Crawdads catcher Andrew Walker is a Uni Watch kind of guy (photos by Billy Crowe). ”¦ Two new Kentucky football replica jerseys have hit the market: home and road. “They’ve eliminated the basketball-esque striping and added the striping on the sides,” says Jeremy Branham (not to be confused with Jeremy Brahm). “It also appears that ‘KENTUCKY’ is in a larger point size.” ”¦ UNLV has just unveiled new football uniforms too, and holy shit are they awful. Further details here. ”¦ “In just the third game of the Appalachian League season, Elizabethton Twins coach Jeff Reed forgot his helmet in the 3rd inning,” reports Matt Nelson. “The umpire noticed the problem and had a bat boy bring him a helmet in between pitches.” ”¦ Did you know that the four major leagues and the Collegiate Licensing Company are all members of a trademark-watchdog group called CAPS (short for “Coalition to Advance the Protection of Sports Logos”)? I knew nothing about this group — which, oddly, is headquartered in Idaho — until Richard Stover pointed me here (although the site apparently hasn’t been updated in several years). Interestingly, the MLB section notes that “TM” and ” ®” symbols shouldn’t be used on embroidered products, which means the trademark symbol on the Cubs’ jersey patch isn’t just anomalous — it’s contrary to MLB’s own stated protocol.

 
  
 
Comments (159)

    I have never seen anything for roller derby in Japan and I’m not looking for it!!! Actually, I doubt that Japanese have even heard of roller derby.

    Interesting how C.J. Nitkowski goes by “C.J.” but only has “C. Nitkowski” embroidered on his glove.

    Here is the page for Arch Rival Roller Girls from St. Louis. There are some other great photos on here. link

    I’ve never ehard of any roller derby in Japan either, but if they ever do take up the game here, link is probably what they’ll use (and attract lots of fans with)!

    Anyone remember the roller hockey league that used to be on ESPN 2 in the late ’90s? They also used the numbering system mentioned above for roller derby — one team had 10-16, another 20-26, etc., so you could guess the team and position just by knowing a guy’s jersey number.

    I can’t remember what this league was called, but when your only source of out-of-town baseball scores was that thin blue ticker showing them repeatedly on “The Deuce”, you’ll watch whatever they broadcast!

    Couple notes for you:

    1. Marist upgraded their logo yesterday (link forthcoming);

    2. UNLV has unveiled new home football uniforms on their web site. Made by Nike. And it looks like a major downgrade. (Insert “At least it’s better than Oregon” joke. Another link also coming soon.)

    Looks like the basketball-shoe-converted-to-cleat phenonmenon is going mainstream – it’s not just for pro athletes any more.

    link

    Roller Hockey International

    Portland had a team called the Rage and made the finals in like the first year of the league.

    link

    Even found a jersey site
    link

    Hey

    I don’t know if anyone out there saw baseball tonight last night, but they did a small feature on a pitcher in the New York Penn minor leagues, a guy named Pat Venditte, who is a switch pitcher.

    I have read an article on this guy before and he uses a glove that he can wear on both hands, and I have read an article on this guy in SI. Anyone know the specifics about his glove?

    For those of you who are Roller Derby fans, a friend of mine produced and shot a doc series on the 2007 RollerCon in Las Vegas. You’ll probably enjoy this.

    link

    was just reading about team specific tattoos on a soccer message board and I was wondering if uniwatch has ever posted on the subject. Not uni related exactly but logo related.

    HUDZ are relatively new to the market:
    link
    Alberto Contador had pink ones at the Giro:
    link
    link
    Note also that his shorts and bar tape were upgraded between stage 16 (his first day in the lead) and stage 19.
    Most of the color matched gear (helmets, sunglasses…) is brought by manufacturer reps to give to any of their sponsored riders who are leading a classification. Hudz doesn’t sponsor Astana, but it would appear that they still have someone going to races and passing these things around the pit area.
    A somewhat related quirk; A race leader is allowed to wear shorts to match a classification jersey during the race, but if he retains the lead at the end of the day he has to change back into full standard team kit for the podium ceremony.
    link

    [quote comment=”276328″]Hey

    I don’t know if anyone out there saw baseball tonight last night, but they did a small feature on a pitcher in the New York Penn minor leagues, a guy named Pat Venditte, who is a switch pitcher.

    I have read an article on this guy before and he uses a glove that he can wear on both hands, and I have read an article on this guy in SI. Anyone know the specifics about his glove?[/quote]

    Send me an email (bryan.redemske at owh dot com). We’ve had at least 4,000 articles about him in the last three years. I’ll send the one that talks about his glove.

    Awesome entry today. I used to love watching Roller Derby back in the ’70s. When the sport has enjoyed a semi-resurgence on occasion since, I have been disappointed in the updates to the uniforms.

    Having been inspired by the Roller Derby talk, I pledge to break out my DVD of “Kansas City Bomber” and watch it tonight.

    [quote comment=”276320″]But own my god, I found something.

    link
    “Hey, Mr. Roller game” LOL

    And whats up with the guy with the racing helmet?

    I would guess that was the only way they figure out who the jammer was easily. In the old roller derby, the jammer wore the helmet, while others did not. Still why they couldn’t get them different colored helmets I will never know.

    rats, hit send too soon..

    1) Boxing, pro wrestling and roller derby were my grandfather’s favorite things on TV in the 50’s, along with Lawrence Welk.

    2) I just discovered that my beloved University of Houston Cougars are switching from Adidas to Nike. So much for my hopes we’d get away from the all-red look and back to something like link.

    As a cycling fan I saw Levi in the ungodly color combo and thought the same as the other poster. Undoubtedly, Astana was not really prepared for Levi to take the Green jersey (I am guessing they had yellow coordinated bib shorts) and Levi only had his U. S. bib shorts and his Astana bib shorts (which he would only use for time trials).

    Another interesting Uni-related cycling note is that two U. S. based teams taking part in the Tour de France will be breaking out new jerseys altogether (mid-season). Both Slipstream and HighRoad will be adding jersey sponsors mid-year.

    I happened to see a BMC rider recently, thought their jerseys were relatively subdued, and wondered what the link. At first it looked like and ordinary logo and then when I did a picture search I found out it said link. Later I found out that the “Sponsor Yourself” is an ad slogan for one of their sponsors Assos.

    If you’re in the Philadelphia area and want to see a whole ton of roller derby action, check out the link‘ website.
    This weekend is the East Coast Extravaganza, two days of non-stop women’s roller derby with teams and skaters from all over the US and Canada.

    Apologies; first link above does not work but it is not important (second link works)

    And who can forget Jim Croce’s classic song, “Roller Derby Queen”?

    The night that I fell in love with a Roller Derby Queen
    Round and round, oh round and round
    The meanest hunk o’ woman
    That anybody ever seen
    Down in the arena

    She was five foot six and two fifteen
    A bleached-blonde mama
    With a streak of mean
    She knew how to knuckle
    And she knew how to scuffle and fight

    [quote comment=”276340″]If you’re in the Philadelphia area and want to see a whole ton of roller derby action, check out the link‘ website.
    This weekend is the East Coast Extravaganza, two days of non-stop women’s roller derby with teams and skaters from all over the US and Canada.[/quote]

    Yeah, one of the skaters on the “Heavy Metal Hookers” is the mother of a kid at my kids’ school. Ah, the secret lives we all live . . .

    [quote comment=”276329″]Jeremy, awesome! I had no idea that that league had lasted so long.

    Some of those jerseys are nuts — link for St. Louis?[/quote]

    I don’t want no motherf**king snakes on my motherf**king jersey!!! Actually I think that jersey was on Uniwatch about a year or so back. IF it wasn’t on the blog it was one of Paul’s ESPN articles. Very original I must say!

    [quote comment=”276337″]rats, hit send too soon..

    1) Boxing, pro wrestling and roller derby were my grandfather’s favorite things on TV in the 50’s, along with Lawrence Welk.

    2) I just discovered that my beloved University of Houston Cougars are switching from Adidas to Nike. So much for my hopes we’d get away from the all-red look and back to something like link.[/quote]

    University of Houston still holds NCAA Div. I record for most touchdown passes in a single game. Interesting bit of trivia attached to it. Someone who later was inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame caught one of them.

    Know who it is? (That’s for everyone but Bob Andrews; he probably knows the answer)

    And, yes, I’d like to see the all-red go bye-bye.

    Speaking of the Cougars, hard to remember they once were this good…

    link

    [quote comment=”276325″]Couple notes for you:

    1. Marist upgraded their logo yesterday (link forthcoming);

    2. UNLV has unveiled new home football uniforms on their web site. Made by Nike. And it looks like a major downgrade. (Insert “At least it’s better than Oregon” joke. Another link also coming soon.)[/quote]

    No, this time Oregon uniforms (even the all lemon yellow uni) looks better than UNLV’s monstrosity. Friends don’t let friends wear Nike gear.

    [quote comment=”276337″]

    1) Boxing, pro wrestling and roller derby were my grandfather’s favorite things on TV in the 50’s, along with Lawrence Welk.

    2) I just discovered that my beloved University of Houston Cougars are switching from Adidas to Nike. So much for my hopes we’d get away from the all-red look and back to something like link.[/quote]

    1) Jeez, I am old. Bob’s grandfather watched the same stuff I did as a kid, minus Lawrence Welk, of course, who was the object (undeserved) of much contempt from wiseass snotty little rock’n’rollers like me. I digress. It is difficult to convey, much less justify, how exciting it was then to watch those boxing and wrestling and roller-derby events, given that their production values were abysmal by today’s standards. Boxing was serious, of course, the object of sober analysis. We knew wrestling and roller-derby were scripted and hammy and essentially carnival stuff, but we liked them for their violent good-and-evil fun. Excellent guest column today.

    2) And you’re right, Bob, those old UHouston unis are terrific.

    I can’t say I ever realized how cool old roller derby jerseys were! Houston’s derby has a pretty amazing link that picks up on the nostalgia. And you all know by now… I just love that rocket!

    Wow, Kentucky traded the basketball tank top piping for the basketball team’s striping.

    Old Jersey
    link
    New Jersey
    link
    Basketball Team
    link

    [quote comment=”276337″]
    2) I just discovered that my beloved University of Houston Cougars are switching from Adidas to Nike. So much for my hopes we’d get away from the all-red look and back to something like link.[/quote]

    I fully expect that we will wind up with the standard “Nike small school template” uni, complete with bra strap (or even worse, the Oregon State sports bra) and way too much piping.

    Be afraid, be very afraid.

    Is it is just me, or does anyone else remember “Rollergames” in 1989-90?

    The Los Angeles T-Birds, the Rockers, Hot Flash, the Violators, Bad Attitude, and The Maniacs were basically made out to be good vs. evil (the first three were the angelic teams). The ratings on television were huge for this show, even beating out American Gladiators at the time, but the distributor went bankrupt and the show only lasted one season on TV. It was unique in that the track was a figure-eight rather than an oval.

    The WSL Roller Jam was the next foray into American televison from 1999-2001, but is was nowhere near as successful as Rollergames.

    A&E had a documentary series on TV a couple of years ago about the new roller derby based on Austin, Texas. It was a very interesting show, and I totally recommend it if you have any interest in this sport whatsoever.

    link

    [quote comment=”276354″]
    The WSL Roller Jam was the next foray into American televison from 1999-2001, but is/was nowhere near as successful as Rollergames.
    [/quote]

    Correction made! :o)

    [quote comment=”276354″]Is it is just me, or does anyone else remember “Rollergames” in 1989-90?

    The Los Angeles T-Birds, the Rockers, Hot Flash, the Violators, Bad Attitude, and The Maniacs were basically made out to be good vs. evil (the first three were the angelic teams). The ratings on television were huge for this show, even beating out American Gladiators at the time, but the distributor went bankrupt and the show only lasted one season on TV. It was unique in that the track was a figure-eight rather than an oval.

    The WSL Roller Jam was the next foray into American televison from 1999-2001, but is was nowhere near as successful as Rollergames.

    A&E had a documentary series on TV a couple of years ago about the new roller derby based on Austin, Texas. It was a very interesting show, and I totally recommend it if you have any interest in this sport whatsoever.

    link

    Damn, now I’m gonna have to rent KANSAS CITY BOMBER. Racquel Welch. Roller derby. In the same movie.

    No mention of Ann Calvello and the Bay Area Bombers in all this today? They had an awesome rivalry with the L.A. Thunderbirds, as I recall.

    [quote comment=”276357″][quote comment=”276354″]
    The WSL Roller Jam was the next foray into American televison from 1999-2001, but is/was nowhere near as successful as Rollergames.
    [/quote]

    Correction made! :o)[/quote]

    Crappy broken html… user is messed in the head. Did I fix it?

    [quote comment=”276355″]“Any TBTC’s this weekend?”[/quote]
    The Rays will pay tribute to the only chapions of the now long defunct Senior baseball league, the 1989-90 St. Pete Pelicans on Saturday (6/21) against the Astros, who will not wear the 1989/90 Astro “rainbow on the shoulders” unis, but those throw-up inducing rainbow guts home unis.

    I feel I should mention I posted that KANSAS CITY BOMBER dvd photo soley to discuss the uniqueness of Ms. Welch’s #11.

    This is, after all, Uni-Watch.

    [quote comment=”276355″]Any TBTC’s this weekend?[/quote]

    Dude, look at the Jersey-Joe ad near the top of the page!

    [quote comment=”276345″][quote comment=”276340″]“If you’re in the Philadelphia area and want to see a whole ton of roller derby action, check out the link‘ website.
    This weekend is the East Coast Extravaganza, two days of non-stop women’s roller derby with teams and skaters from all over the US and Canada.”
    [/quote]

    “Yeah, one of the skaters on the Heavy Metal Hookers is the mother of a kid at my kids’ school. Ah, the secret lives we all live . . .”[/quote]

    And I met one of the skaters in a laundromat some time ago, the immortal Felony Griffith. I assune her husband is Antonio Vanbadass. She liked that joke.

    [quote comment=”276365″][quote comment=”276355″]Any TBTC’s this weekend?[/quote]

    Dude, look at the Jersey-Joe ad near the top of the page![/quote]

    I know. I had a braindead moment. Sorry about that. I even went to the site yesterday. Duh.

    [quote comment=”276364″]“I feel I should mention I posted that KANSAS CITY BOMBER dvd photo soley to discuss the uniqueness of Ms. Welch’s #11.

    “This is, after all, Uni Eunich-Watch.”[/quote]

    DAMN IT RICKO! Oh, by the way, the last comment was fixed for everyone else’s amusement.

    [quote comment=”276326″]Looks like the basketball-shoe-converted-to-cleat phenonmenon is going mainstream – it’s not just for pro athletes any more.

    link

    That’s been around for awhile now!

    [quote comment=”276370″][quote comment=”276326″]Looks like the basketball-shoe-converted-to-cleat phenonmenon is going mainstream – it’s not just for pro athletes any more.

    link

    That’s been around for awhile now![/quote]

    None of you pay attention when I post that stuff though….so there!

    The roller derby in my city isn’t nearly as organized is the others. No real uni’s to speak of, although they all dress similarly and there are plenty of striped amnd checkerboard socks in the crowd. Mostly just hipsters, sence girls, and punks. But it is fun to watch and the money goes to local chairties and such, can’t beat $1 beers and roller derby.

    link

    [quote comment=”276371″][quote comment=”276370″][quote comment=”276326″]Looks like the basketball-shoe-converted-to-cleat phenonmenon is going mainstream – it’s not just for pro athletes any more.

    link

    That’s been around for awhile now![/quote]

    None of you pay attention when I post that stuff though….so there![/quote]

    I think you know more about shoes than I know about myself.

    [quote comment=”276354″]Is it is just me, or does anyone else remember “Rollergames” in 1989-90?[/quote]

    I think that Phoenix news anchor who posed for Playboy ended up having to work there as a reporter. I can’t remember her name. Shelly Jamison? Yes, that’s her.

    [quote]A&E had a documentary series on TV a couple of years ago about the new roller derby based on Austin, Texas. It was a very interesting show, and I totally recommend it if you have any interest in this sport whatsoever.

    link

    I watched every episode of that. Dug it.

    In addition to the gallery Paul put together, the rest of my shots from AZ Roller Derby are link.

    [quote comment=”276369″][quote comment=”276364″]“I feel I should mention I posted that KANSAS CITY BOMBER dvd photo soley to discuss the uniqueness of Ms. Welch’s #11.

    “This is, after all, Uni Eunich-Watch.”[/quote]

    DAMN IT RICKO! Oh, by the way, the last comment was fixed for everyone else’s amusement.[/quote]

    Hey, hey…you make it sound like we’re all meeting at the comic book store later.

    [quote comment=”276363″]
    The Rays will pay tribute to the only chapions of the now long defunct Senior baseball league, the 1989-90 St. Pete Pelicans on Saturday (6/21) [/quote]

    I did not know that.

    Guess I’d better get that thing to you this weekend, Paul.

    Eastbay has apparently leaked new jerseys for Virginia Tech, Cal, Minnesota, UNC, Duke, Colorado, and Kentucky

    Virginia Tech:
    link

    California:
    link

    Minnesota:
    link

    North Carolina:
    link

    Duke:
    link

    Colorado:
    link

    Kentucky:
    link

    As a Virginia Tech alum, all I have to say about this is… fuck Nike

    Bet you didn’t know Judy Arnold from the Philadelphia Warriors was Raquel Welch’s stunt double in [i]Kansas City Bomber[/i], too.

    [quote comment=”276377″]Eastbay has apparently leaked new jerseys for Virginia Tech, Cal, Minnesota, UNC, Duke, Colorado, and Kentucky

    Virginia Tech:
    link

    California:
    link

    Minnesota:
    link

    North Carolina:
    link

    Duke:
    link

    Colorado:
    link

    Kentucky:
    link

    As a Virginia Tech alum, all I have to say about this is… fuck Nike[/quote]

    What, lightning would strike us dead if a team wore oh, say, sleeve stripes?

    I should have mentioned Ann Calvello in the article (she’s wearing purple and falling to the track in the first Bomber picture) in that she always dyed her hair and wore make-up to match whichever team she skated with that season.

    Good to see that Starbucks lawyers are trying to put an end to third world worker exploitation—er…I mean, blatant trademark infringement.

    All hail Rat City Rollergirls.

    [quote comment=”276377″]Eastbay has apparently leaked new jerseys for Virginia Tech, Cal, Minnesota, UNC, Duke, Colorado, and Kentucky

    Virginia Tech:
    link

    California:
    link

    Minnesota:
    link

    North Carolina:
    link

    Duke:
    link

    Colorado:
    link

    Kentucky:
    link

    As a Virginia Tech alum, all I have to say about this is… fuck Nike[/quote]

    Those don’t look like official jerseys to me- sleeves too long and no numbers. Looks more like something sold at Footlocker.

    Some other Greater Cincinnati Roller teams…

    I really dig the logo for Riverside, the bridge is the “Purple People Bridge” over the river going from Newport to Cincy, if you’ve ever seen it. It is also why purple (Paul, is purple allowed for women’s teams, or bridges?) is the main color in the logo.

    link

    link

    [quote comment=”276363″][quote comment=”276355″]“Any TBTC’s this weekend?”[/quote]
    The Rays will pay tribute to the only chapions of the now long defunct Senior baseball league, the 1989-90 St. Pete Pelicans on Saturday (6/21) against the Astros, who will not wear the 1989/90 Astro “rainbow on the shoulders” unis, but those throw-up inducing rainbow guts home unis.[/quote]

    I guess interleague play isn’t the gimmick it used to be. Now it seems to bulk of the good turn-back-the-clock events have to be held during these two weeks of nonsense.

    [quote comment=”276346″][quote comment=”276329″]Jeremy, awesome! I had no idea that that league had lasted so long.

    Some of those jerseys are nuts — link for St. Louis?[/quote]

    I don’t want no motherf**king snakes on my motherf**king jersey!!! Actually I think that jersey was on Uniwatch about a year or so back. IF it wasn’t on the blog it was one of Paul’s ESPN articles. Very original I must say![/quote]

    I dunno … I mean, it’s neat and all … but it’d be alot MORE creative to make all the numbers out of, like, turtles. Now THAT would take creativity! Snakes are easy!

    [quote comment=”276324″]I’ve never ehard of any roller derby in Japan either, but if they ever do take up the game here, link is probably what they’ll use (and attract lots of fans with)!

    Anyone remember the roller hockey league that used to be on ESPN 2 in the late ’90s? They also used the numbering system mentioned above for roller derby — one team had 10-16, another 20-26, etc., so you could guess the team and position just by knowing a guy’s jersey number.

    I can’t remember what this league was called, but when your only source of out-of-town baseball scores was that thin blue ticker showing them repeatedly on “The Deuce”, you’ll watch whatever they broadcast![/quote]
    could it have been Pro Beach Hockey? link

    I remember watching it after school. I thought the ramped ends were really cool.

    The Roller Hockey thing was Roller Hockey International.

    Absolutely the slowest thing I have ever seen.

    Saw the San Diego Barracudas, I think, against the LA Skates or something at the San Diego Sports Arena. Man, that league could not go away quickly enough.

    [quote comment=”276388″][quote comment=”276363″][quote comment=”276355″]“Any TBTC’s this weekend?”[/quote]
    The Rays will pay tribute to the only chapions of the now long defunct Senior baseball league, the 1989-90 St. Pete Pelicans on Saturday (6/21) against the Astros, who will not wear the 1989/90 Astro “rainbow on the shoulders” unis, but those throw-up inducing rainbow guts home unis.[/quote]

    I guess interleague play isn’t the gimmick it used to be. Now it seems to bulk of the good turn-back-the-clock events have to be held during these two weeks of nonsense.[/quote]

    Looks like maybe a way to beef up those games between teams with no real historical or geographical connection, which are gonna happen in interleague play, no way around it. Thinking about last weekend’s San Diego at Cleveland, tomorrow’s Houston at Tampa Bay as examples.

    btw, getting tired of those who slam interleague play becasee of those matchups. Anyone with a brain can see those things are going to happen. There are plenty of solid baseball reasons that can be used to make the point. Saying that the Nationals and Twins is no big deal comes under the “no shit, Sherlock” category.

    My take on it is, “What would I like instead, to see the damn Royals come to town four more times?”

    Oh, be still my heart.

    [quote comment=”276385″][quote comment=”276377″]Eastbay has apparently leaked new jerseys for Virginia Tech, Cal, Minnesota, UNC, Duke, Colorado, and Kentucky

    Virginia Tech:
    link

    California:
    link

    Minnesota:
    link

    North Carolina:
    link

    Duke:
    link

    Colorado:
    link

    Kentucky:
    link

    As a Virginia Tech alum, all I have to say about this is… fuck Nike[/quote]

    Those don’t look like official jerseys to me- sleeves too long and no numbers. Looks more like something sold at Footlocker.[/quote]

    Those are, without a doubt, the replicas.

    BTW, Eastbay, Foot Locker, Champs, and Foot Action are all owned by the Venator company.

    To say that they look as if they’d be sold at Foot Locker is correct, Mark.

    I have to say I’m disappointed. I loved VaTech’s jerseys from last year, as well as Colorado’s complete with the 3M number treatments.

    Cal’s useless collar graphics?

    Duke has a football team?

    [quote comment=”276395″]
    Those are, without a doubt, the replicas.

    BTW, Eastbay, Foot Locker, Champs, and Foot Action are all owned by the Venator company.

    To say that they look as if they’d be sold at Foot Locker is correct, Mark.

    I have to say I’m disappointed. I loved VaTech’s jerseys from last year, as well as Colorado’s complete with the 3M number treatments.

    Cal’s useless collar graphics?

    Duke has a football team?[/quote]

    I guess my point is I don’t think these are even considered “replicas” since I doubt these are replicating the actual jersey design- except for a few key elements, of course.

    [quote comment=”276329″]Jeremy, awesome! I had no idea that that league had lasted so long.

    Some of those jerseys are nuts — link for St. Louis?[/quote]
    —–

    Hey Mark – re yesterday – Jimmy Doyle –

    He was quite a tragic figure. After a few games with the Reds in 1910, he joined the Cubs in 1911 (still technically a rookie I think) and was the regular 3rd baseman. He hit .281, but died of appendicitis complications in Jan 1912, leaving a wife and 2 kids.

    [quote comment=”276396″][quote comment=”276395″]
    Those are, without a doubt, the replicas.

    BTW, Eastbay, Foot Locker, Champs, and Foot Action are all owned by the Venator company.

    To say that they look as if they’d be sold at Foot Locker is correct, Mark.

    I have to say I’m disappointed. I loved VaTech’s jerseys from last year, as well as Colorado’s complete with the 3M number treatments.

    Cal’s useless collar graphics?

    Duke has a football team?[/quote]

    I guess my point is I don’t think these are even considered “replicas” since I doubt these are replicating the actual jersey design- except for a few key elements, of course.[/quote]
    Those are, unfortunately, the actual jerseys for this upcoming year. of course, those are sized completely wrong and they will hopefully look better with pads underneath (someone on the VT boards who’s “in the know” did a mockup of what they would look like, and this is what he came up with: link )

    They’ll eventually grow on me, but for now, all I have to say is YUCK

    [quote comment=”276396″][quote comment=”276395″]
    Those are, without a doubt, the replicas.

    BTW, Eastbay, Foot Locker, Champs, and Foot Action are all owned by the Venator company.

    To say that they look as if they’d be sold at Foot Locker is correct, Mark.

    I have to say I’m disappointed. I loved VaTech’s jerseys from last year, as well as Colorado’s complete with the 3M number treatments.

    Cal’s useless collar graphics?

    Duke has a football team?[/quote]

    I guess my point is I don’t think these are even considered “replicas” since I doubt these are replicating the actual jersey design- except for a few key elements, of course.[/quote]

    I see what you’re saying, like the cheapo NFL jerseys they sell that are the right colors, and have the right logos, but the overall uni design isn’t even close. For instance I’ve seen Packer jerseys without sleeve stripes, that instead have a G logo on the sleeves. IS it a Packers jersey? I guess, but not the real one.

    [quote comment=”276399″][quote comment=”276396″][quote comment=”276395″]
    Those are, without a doubt, the replicas.

    BTW, Eastbay, Foot Locker, Champs, and Foot Action are all owned by the Venator company.

    To say that they look as if they’d be sold at Foot Locker is correct, Mark.

    I have to say I’m disappointed. I loved VaTech’s jerseys from last year, as well as Colorado’s complete with the 3M number treatments.

    Cal’s useless collar graphics?

    Duke has a football team?[/quote]

    I guess my point is I don’t think these are even considered “replicas” since I doubt these are replicating the actual jersey design- except for a few key elements, of course.[/quote]
    Those are, unfortunately, the actual jerseys for this upcoming year. of course, those are sized completely wrong and they will hopefully look better with pads underneath (someone on the VT boards who’s “in the know” did a mockup of what they would look like, and this is what he came up with: link )

    They’ll eventually grow on me, but for now, all I have to say is YUCK[/quote]

    Ooooo, that’s too bad.

    [quote comment=\”276353\”][quote comment=\”276337\”]
    2) I just discovered that my beloved University of Houston Cougars are switching from Adidas to Nike. So much for my hopes we\’d get away from the all-red look and back to something like this.[/quote]

    I fully expect that we will wind up with the standard \”Nike small school template\” uni, complete with bra strap (or even worse, the Oregon State sports bra) and way too much piping.

    Be afraid, be very afraid.[/quote]

    I afraid you’re right. That would be sad.

    [quote comment=”276347″][quote comment=”276337″]rats, hit send too soon..

    1) Boxing, pro wrestling and roller derby were my grandfather’s favorite things on TV in the 50’s, along with Lawrence Welk.

    2) I just discovered that my beloved University of Houston Cougars are switching from Adidas to Nike. So much for my hopes we’d get away from the all-red look and back to something like link.[/quote]

    University of Houston still holds NCAA Div. I record for most touchdown passes in a single game. Interesting bit of trivia attached to it. Someone who later was inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame caught one of them.

    Know who it is? (That’s for everyone but Bob Andrews; he probably knows the answer)

    And, yes, I’d like to see the all-red go bye-bye.

    Speaking of the Cougars, hard to remember they once were this good…

    link

    Oh, wow. The Tulsa game. I was there.

    [quote comment=”276391″]The Roller Hockey thing was Roller Hockey International.

    Absolutely the slowest thing I have ever seen.

    Saw the San Diego Barracudas, I think, against the LA Skates or something at the San Diego Sports Arena. Man, that league could not go away quickly enough.[/quote]

    Pro Beach Hockey and Roller Hockey International were two separate leagues (although many players appeared in both). PBH was an outdoor summer league, featuring teams like the Gargoyles.
    link

    RHI was an indoor league, which had at least one awesome jersey (IMHO): the Pittsburgh Phantoms.
    link

    [quote comment=”276334″]Awesome entry today. I used to love watching Roller Derby back in the ’70s. When the sport has enjoyed a semi-resurgence on occasion since, I have been disappointed in the updates to the uniforms.

    Having been inspired by the Roller Derby talk, I pledge to break out my DVD of “Kansas City Bomber” and watch it tonight.[/quote]

    There is an EBAT seller named “oldjerseys.com3” that sells replicas of the older Roller Derby jerseys. Thet probably are not real durene, but they do have the correct stripng and logos of the classic older roller derby jerseys.

    also, the new UNLV football unis jerseys are AWFUL!!! They look like XFL practice jerseys.

    [quote comment=”276405″][quote comment=”276334″]Awesome entry today. I used to love watching Roller Derby back in the ’70s. When the sport has enjoyed a semi-resurgence on occasion since, I have been disappointed in the updates to the uniforms.

    Having been inspired by the Roller Derby talk, I pledge to break out my DVD of “Kansas City Bomber” and watch it tonight.[/quote]

    There is an EBAT seller named “oldjerseys.com3” that sells replicas of the older Roller Derby jerseys. Thet probably are not real durene, but they do have the correct stripng and logos of the classic older roller derby jerseys.

    also, the new UNLV football unis jerseys are AWFUL!!! They look like XFL practice jerseys.[/quote]

    An EBAY SELLER, “oldjerseys.com3”.

    [quote comment=”276354″]Is it is just me, or does anyone else remember “Rollergames” in 1989-90?

    The Los Angeles T-Birds, the Rockers, Hot Flash, the Violators, Bad Attitude, and The Maniacs were basically made out to be good vs. evil (the first three were the angelic teams). The ratings on television were huge for this show, even beating out American Gladiators at the time, but the distributor went bankrupt and the show only lasted one season on TV. It was unique in that the track was a figure-eight rather than an oval.[/quote]

    I barely remember the TV show, but I will never forget the Rollergames pinball machine.
    link

    I can still here the digitized female voice:
    “DON’T FLIP!”
    (wait for magnet to capture ball)
    “FLIP!”

    [quote comment=”276403″][quote comment=”276347″][quote comment=”276337″]rats, hit send too soon..

    1) Boxing, pro wrestling and roller derby were my grandfather’s favorite things on TV in the 50’s, along with Lawrence Welk.

    2) I just discovered that my beloved University of Houston Cougars are switching from Adidas to Nike. So much for my hopes we’d get away from the all-red look and back to something like link.[/quote]

    University of Houston still holds NCAA Div. I record for most touchdown passes in a single game. Interesting bit of trivia attached to it. Someone who later was inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame caught one of them.

    Know who it is? (That’s for everyone but Bob Andrews; he probably knows the answer)

    And, yes, I’d like to see the all-red go bye-bye.

    Speaking of the Cougars, hard to remember they once were this good…

    link

    Oh, wow. The Tulsa game. I was there.[/quote]

    Doesn’t look like anyone knows the singer who caught a TD pass in that game. Shall we tell ’em?

    I am to lazy to look up if he is the actual answer to your question but one of the Gatlins (Larry, I think) played football at Houston.

    Yup, Larry Gatlin. He was, like, three deep on the depth chart at one of the receiver positions.

    Reprinted from yesterdays comments since it was late when posted and I wanted to share:

    Here is a link to the new Minnesota Timberwolves alternate logo … it seems legit at least, although I can’t confirm it 100%. It looks like a draft cap though. Real similar to their old one, as well as the Dallas Mavericks current logo.

    link

    [quote comment=”276400″][quote comment=”276396″][quote comment=”276395″]
    Those are, without a doubt, the replicas.

    BTW, Eastbay, Foot Locker, Champs, and Foot Action are all owned by the Venator company.

    To say that they look as if they’d be sold at Foot Locker is correct, Mark.

    I have to say I’m disappointed. I loved VaTech’s jerseys from last year, as well as Colorado’s complete with the 3M number treatments.

    Cal’s useless collar graphics?

    Duke has a football team?[/quote]

    I guess my point is I don’t think these are even considered “replicas” since I doubt these are replicating the actual jersey design- except for a few key elements, of course.[/quote]

    I see what you’re saying, like the cheapo NFL jerseys they sell that are the right colors, and have the right logos, but the overall uni design isn’t even close. For instance I’ve seen Packer jerseys without sleeve stripes, that instead have a G logo on the sleeves. IS it a Packers jersey? I guess, but not the real one.[/quote]

    I think that VaTech would have been better off having gone with these jerseys this year:

    link

    [quote comment=”276392″][quote comment=”276388″][quote comment=”276363″][quote comment=”276355″]“Any TBTC’s this weekend?”[/quote]
    The Rays will pay tribute to the only chapions of the now long defunct Senior baseball league, the 1989-90 St. Pete Pelicans on Saturday (6/21) against the Astros, who will not wear the 1989/90 Astro “rainbow on the shoulders” unis, but those throw-up inducing rainbow guts home unis.[/quote]

    I guess interleague play isn’t the gimmick it used to be. Now it seems to bulk of the good turn-back-the-clock events have to be held during these two weeks of nonsense.[/quote]

    Looks like maybe a way to beef up those games between teams with no real historical or geographical connection, which are gonna happen in interleague play, no way around it. Thinking about last weekend’s San Diego at Cleveland, tomorrow’s Houston at Tampa Bay as examples.

    btw, getting tired of those who slam interleague play becasee of those matchups. Anyone with a brain can see those things are going to happen. There are plenty of solid baseball reasons that can be used to make the point. Saying that the Nationals and Twins is no big deal comes under the “no shit, Sherlock” category.[/quote]

    I slam interleague play because I believe it’s bad for baseball. It’s served to diminish both the All-Star game and World Series, it makes half the month of June a joke (almost like an exhibition season), and it took one of the aspects that made baseball unique (having distinct leagues) away. Had Bud Selig had his way, he would have done radical realignment, too, but fortunately that didn’t come to pass.

    Here is Carl Crawford, of the Rays, wearing another version of those Nike Swingman Remixes from the other day!

    link

    And again, thanks to MM for pointing this outm but check out thes cleat/uni coordination of Jake Peavy, including the Shox columns:

    link

    Vlad eschews the pajama look altogether…instead he tucks his pants INTO his shoes:

    link

    And check out these special edition VaTech Nike Zoom Turfs that I found:

    link

    The detroit freepress’ website’s most popular article right now is about Michigan’s new football jerseys. freep.com

    [quote comment=”276413″][quote comment=”276392″][quote comment=”276388″][quote comment=”276363″][quote comment=”276355″]“Any TBTC’s this weekend?”[/quote]
    The Rays will pay tribute to the only chapions of the now long defunct Senior baseball league, the 1989-90 St. Pete Pelicans on Saturday (6/21) against the Astros, who will not wear the 1989/90 Astro “rainbow on the shoulders” unis, but those throw-up inducing rainbow guts home unis.[/quote]

    I guess interleague play isn’t the gimmick it used to be. Now it seems to bulk of the good turn-back-the-clock events have to be held during these two weeks of nonsense.[/quote]

    Looks like maybe a way to beef up those games between teams with no real historical or geographical connection, which are gonna happen in interleague play, no way around it. Thinking about last weekend’s San Diego at Cleveland, tomorrow’s Houston at Tampa Bay as examples.

    btw, getting tired of those who slam interleague play becasee of those matchups. Anyone with a brain can see those things are going to happen. There are plenty of solid baseball reasons that can be used to make the point. Saying that the Nationals and Twins is no big deal comes under the “no shit, Sherlock” category.[/quote]

    I slam interleague play because I believe it’s bad for baseball. It’s served to diminish both the All-Star game and World Series, it makes half the month of June a joke (almost like an exhibition season), and it took one of the aspects that made baseball unique (having distinct leagues) away. Had Bud Selig had his way, he would have done radical realignment, too, but fortunately that didn’t come to pass.[/quote]

    Oh, man, I wasn’t knocking you. You just said they were lousy, never said they were a reason to do away with interleague play, and I was appeciating that you were smart enough NOT to do that.

    And my point was that I get tired of seeing the same teams over and over (like the Royals). Rather see Twins play the Red Sox or Yankees one more series. Interleague plays bothers me less than playing the White Sox every other week (or so it seems). To me, that’s the boredom inducing part of the season. Not bad for Red Sox and Yankees, but gets old for others.

    [quote comment=”276413″][quote comment=”276392″][quote comment=”276388″][quote comment=”276363″][quote comment=”276355″]“Any TBTC’s this weekend?”[/quote]
    The Rays will pay tribute to the only chapions of the now long defunct Senior baseball league, the 1989-90 St. Pete Pelicans on Saturday (6/21) against the Astros, who will not wear the 1989/90 Astro “rainbow on the shoulders” unis, but those throw-up inducing rainbow guts home unis.[/quote]

    I guess interleague play isn’t the gimmick it used to be. Now it seems to bulk of the good turn-back-the-clock events have to be held during these two weeks of nonsense.[/quote]

    Looks like maybe a way to beef up those games between teams with no real historical or geographical connection, which are gonna happen in interleague play, no way around it. Thinking about last weekend’s San Diego at Cleveland, tomorrow’s Houston at Tampa Bay as examples.

    btw, getting tired of those who slam interleague play becasee of those matchups. Anyone with a brain can see those things are going to happen. There are plenty of solid baseball reasons that can be used to make the point. Saying that the Nationals and Twins is no big deal comes under the “no shit, Sherlock” category.[/quote]

    I slam interleague play because I believe it’s bad for baseball. It’s served to diminish both the All-Star game and World Series, it makes half the month of June a joke (almost like an exhibition season), and it took one of the aspects that made baseball unique (having distinct leagues) away. Had Bud Selig had his way, he would have done radical realignment, too, but fortunately that didn’t come to pass.[/quote]

    I think I am the only person on Earth that doesn’t like that it has two leagues and plays by different rules. Besides pitchers batting/ DH, what are other rules that are different?

    [quote comment=”276396″]I guess my point is I don’t think these are even considered “replicas” since I doubt these are replicating the actual jersey design- except for a few key elements, of course.[/quote]

    Sadly, I don’t think that is the case. We’ve already seen the authentic versions of some the ones Eastbay posted, and they are basically the same:

    MINNESOTA
    link
    link

    CAL
    link
    link

    I’m afraid these replicas are more or less what we will see this fall. :-(

    [quote comment=”276418″][quote comment=”276396″]I guess my point is I don’t think these are even considered “replicas” since I doubt these are replicating the actual jersey design- except for a few key elements, of course.[/quote]

    Sadly, I don’t think that is the case. We’ve already seen the authentic versions of some the ones Eastbay posted, and they are basically the same:

    MINNESOTA
    link
    link

    CAL
    link
    link

    I’m afraid these replicas are more or less what we will see this fall.

    :-([/quote]

    Indeed those are pretty lame. No TV numbers required in NCAA ball.

    [quote comment=”276413″]I slam interleague play because I believe it’s bad for baseball. It’s served to diminish both the All-Star game and World Series, it makes half the month of June a joke (almost like an exhibition season), and it took one of the aspects that made baseball unique (having distinct leagues) away. Had Bud Selig had his way, he would have done radical realignment, too, but fortunately that didn’t come to pass.[/quote]

    And, yet…baseball seems to still be popular.

    What’s done is done. If you want Yankees/Mets and Cubs/Sox every year (as they do), you have to put up with Rays/Astros, I guess. Which is probably not really much less interesting than Rays/Twins.

    I don’t think they’re going to go back to separate league schedules any more than they’re going to go back to flannel or the color line or leaving your gloves on the field at the end of an inning.

    It’s just the way of things.

    my opinion on interleague is that, the non-derby matchups should be rotated, so that we don’t always get Mariners-Padres every year but fresh matchups for those teams without natural geographical rivals. otherwise, I think the system is ok. (the schedule’s already unbalanced anyways.)

    [quote comment=”276418″][quote comment=”276396″]I guess my point is I don’t think these are even considered “replicas” since I doubt these are replicating the actual jersey design- except for a few key elements, of course.[/quote]

    Sadly, I don’t think that is the case. We’ve already seen the authentic versions of some the ones Eastbay posted, and they are basically the same:

    MINNESOTA
    link
    link

    CAL
    link
    link

    I’m afraid these replicas are more or less what we will see this fall.

    :-([/quote]

    I’m shocked that half of Uni Watch isn’t glowing over the Minnesota uniforms calling them “classic”

    [quote comment=”276355″] I think I am the only person on Earth that doesn’t like that it has two leagues and plays by different rules. Besides pitchers batting/ DH, what are other rules that are different?[/quote]

    I don’t know if I’d call it a rule as much as a “standard”, but until the leagues, and the umpires, were married a few years back, NL non-playoff games had four umps, AL games had six (right and left field). I seem to remember batters having to adjust when the umpires merged into one group having to adjust to “an American League strike zone”. Again, I would think the powers that be in baseball wouldn’t admit to there being seperate rules, but I think the reality was there WAS a difference.

    [quote comment=”276425″][quote comment=”276418″][quote comment=”276396″]I guess my point is I don’t think these are even considered “replicas” since I doubt these are replicating the actual jersey design- except for a few key elements, of course.[/quote]

    Sadly, I don’t think that is the case. We’ve already seen the authentic versions of some the ones Eastbay posted, and they are basically the same:

    MINNESOTA
    link
    link

    CAL
    link
    link

    I’m afraid these replicas are more or less what we will see this fall.

    :-([/quote]

    I’m shocked that half of Uni Watch isn’t glowing over the Minnesota uniforms calling them “classic”[/quote]

    I don’t mind them…but still think that they are bland!

    Someone mentioned it before…but where have the TV/Press Box numbers gone?

    Does UNLV still have an alternate logo? How many times can you put one logo on a uniform? Those jersey’s remind me somewhat of the one’s Washington State wore once a couple years ago. Usually I like when stripes are a little different take troy for example & I think it looks best when the helmet & pants stripes match. However that single stripe on UNLV’s helmet looks stupid even if it matches the one on the pants.

    It looks like Nike is coming out with new templates & the VT jerseys might the same one as UNLV is using.

    I’m curious if those stripes on Kentucky’s jerseys are just on the side or if they go all the way around & if the pants have any stripes.

    [quote comment=”276416″][quote comment=”276413″][quote comment=”276392″][quote comment=”276388″][quote comment=”276363″][quote comment=”276355″]“Any TBTC’s this weekend?”[/quote]
    The Rays will pay tribute to the only chapions of the now long defunct Senior baseball league, the 1989-90 St. Pete Pelicans on Saturday (6/21) against the Astros, who will not wear the 1989/90 Astro “rainbow on the shoulders” unis, but those throw-up inducing rainbow guts home unis.[/quote]

    I guess interleague play isn’t the gimmick it used to be. Now it seems to bulk of the good turn-back-the-clock events have to be held during these two weeks of nonsense.[/quote]

    Looks like maybe a way to beef up those games between teams with no real historical or geographical connection, which are gonna happen in interleague play, no way around it. Thinking about last weekend’s San Diego at Cleveland, tomorrow’s Houston at Tampa Bay as examples.

    btw, getting tired of those who slam interleague play becasee of those matchups. Anyone with a brain can see those things are going to happen. There are plenty of solid baseball reasons that can be used to make the point. Saying that the Nationals and Twins is no big deal comes under the “no shit, Sherlock” category.[/quote]

    I slam interleague play because I believe it’s bad for baseball. It’s served to diminish both the All-Star game and World Series, it makes half the month of June a joke (almost like an exhibition season), and it took one of the aspects that made baseball unique (having distinct leagues) away. Had Bud Selig had his way, he would have done radical realignment, too, but fortunately that didn’t come to pass.[/quote]

    Oh, man, I wasn’t knocking you. You just said they were lousy, never said they were a reason to do away with interleague play, and I was appeciating that you were smart enough NOT to do that.

    And my point was that I get tired of seeing the same teams over and over (like the Royals). Rather see Twins play the Red Sox or Yankees one more series. Interleague plays bothers me less than playing the White Sox every other week (or so it seems). To me, that’s the boredom inducing part of the season. Not bad for Red Sox and Yankees, but gets old for others.[/quote]

    I’d definitly agree that the unbalanced schedule is monotonous. We play the teams from the east and west 1 or 2 series, and yet endless(18) games against the teams in the division. I understand the importantance of showing dominance over each other for playoffs spots, but seriously that’s too many. And anyone that’s opposed to interleague play, all I have to say is have you ever been to a Cubs-Sox game? There’s no more entertaining and tension filled games, outside of the ’05 playoffs of course. I for one, would miss playing the Cubbies. At work we talk about those games in April for crying out loud.

    [quote comment=”276355″]I’d definitly agree that the unbalanced schedule is monotonous. We play the teams from the east and west 1 or 2 series, and yet endless(18) games against the teams in the division. I understand the importantance of showing dominance over each other for playoffs spots, but seriously that’s too many. And anyone that’s opposed to interleague play, all I have to say is have you ever been to a Cubs-Sox game? There’s no more entertaining and tension filled games, outside of the ’05 playoffs of course. I for one, would miss playing the Cubbies. At work we talk about those games in April for crying out loud.[/quote]

    I have bad news for everyone that feels bored/cheated/unhappy with interleague play and all the tweaks that have been done with baseball since Bud (Selig, not the king of beers) took over: It’s all working. As long as attenandance figures go up instead of down, it’s going to keep evolving. Interleague play … Wild Card … Unbalanced schedules … Billy Crystal batting lead-off. None of that’s going away any time soon (except for Billy Crystal … I mean, he’s getting old … they’ll probably have to settle for Kevin Costner catching the first inning of next year’s season opening game). Don’t tell me (or NHL owners) that people will continue going to games just because they always have. It doesn’t work that way. You have to earn the price of a ticket. I don’t even like the changes, but I have to admit, someone else obviously does.

    [quote comment=”276410″]Yup, Larry Gatlin. He was, like, three deep on the depth chart at one of the receiver positions.[/quote]

    And up until in 1997, he was the last QB of Odessa High to actually beat Permian (1967).

    Check out these sweet Roller Derby Uniforms!
    Angel City Derby Girls : Hollywood Scarlets, WFTDA Travel Team…
    Bringing uniforms to a whole new level.
    Kicking ass and looking great…

    link

    Check us out: link

    Last night on the new American Shopper they made a New York Giants bike. Not sure this was mentioned previously. Came out pretty cool, but all I kept thinking was where is Paul’s friend Skiba to make sure they do this right? The tank looked like a helmet and I kept wanting them to ad the proper rubber NY raised logo.

    Worked on the poster for a new movie called ‘The Perfect Game’. The kid is pretty close to having proper stirrups. Great uniwatch imagery to look out for.

    Anybody know why the Croatian football (soccer) squad aren’t wearing their first-choice checkers? They won their group and the Turks were runners up in theirs so the only reason I can come up with is luck, seeing as they wore the blues for all three group games (which they won).

    Checkers:
    link

    Blues:
    link

    NHL is cutting back on the unbalanced schedule though. I think they’re going from playing division rivals 8 times a season to 6 times a season, so that each team will play each other team in the other conference at least once a season. (up to this past season, post-lockout, they only faced teams from the other conference once every 3 seasons, ridiculous)

    Blue kits do have checkered side panels. Strange not to see their first kits yet, but I guess it’s superstition like you said.

    [quote comment=”276400″][quote comment=”276396″][quote comment=”276395″]
    Those are, without a doubt, the replicas.

    BTW, Eastbay, Foot Locker, Champs, and Foot Action are all owned by the Venator company.

    To say that they look as if they’d be sold at Foot Locker is correct, Mark.

    I have to say I’m disappointed. I loved VaTech’s jerseys from last year, as well as Colorado’s complete with the 3M number treatments.

    Cal’s useless collar graphics?

    Duke has a football team?[/quote]

    I guess my point is I don’t think these are even considered “replicas” since I doubt these are replicating the actual jersey design- except for a few key elements, of course.[/quote]

    I see what you’re saying, like the cheapo NFL jerseys they sell that are the right colors, and have the right logos, but the overall uni design isn’t even close. For instance I’ve seen Packer jerseys without sleeve stripes, that instead have a G logo on the sleeves. IS it a Packers jersey? I guess, but not the real one.[/quote]

    I’d call that just another kind of fashion jersey.

    [quote comment=”276435″]NHL is cutting back on the unbalanced schedule though. I think they’re going from playing division rivals 8 times a season to 6 times a season, so that each team will play each other team in the other conference at least once a season. (up to this past season, post-lockout, they only faced teams from the other conference once every 3 seasons, ridiculous)[/quote]
    Actually, twice every 3 seasons- one season home and one season away, and that would rotate through division by division.

    Still sucked though.

    Not being a watcher of soaps, let alone Canadian soaps, I noticed that ABC is showing tonight an episode of “MVP”, a hockey-themed soap. Now, there’s no need to watch, unless you really want to, but their fictional Mustangs team wears these Avalanche-like uniforms:

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    Not too bad, but definitely not tight like the new NHL ones.

    Amusing video of the ambidextrous pitcher pitching against a switch hitter. I know this was talked about at lnegth a while back, but I can’t remember seeinga video.

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    [quote comment=”276426″][quote comment=”276355″] I think I am the only person on Earth that doesn’t like that it has two leagues and plays by different rules. Besides pitchers batting/ DH, what are other rules that are different?[/quote]

    I don’t know if I’d call it a rule as much as a “standard”, but until the leagues, and the umpires, were married a few years back, NL non-playoff games had four umps, AL games had six (right and left field). I seem to remember batters having to adjust when the umpires merged into one group having to adjust to “an American League strike zone”. Again, I would think the powers that be in baseball wouldn’t admit to there being seperate rules, but I think the reality was there WAS a difference.[/quote]

    I don’t recall the AL EVER having a 6 umpire crew outside of the playoffs. The strike zone difference has all but disappeared too. The reason for it was that in the late 70’s, early 80’s as home-plate umpires were transitioning from using the “balloon” outside chest protector to the inside chest protector, the conversion happened much more quickly in the AL. Because the umpire was able to get closer to the catcher and squat down lower, AL umpires had a “lower” strike zone. Alas, with the disappearance of the outside chest protector, the strike “at the letters” has also become extinct.

    My nomination for the missing Pedro Button:

    “NO STOCKY”

    Which I think is Spanish for “it ain’t there.”

    Of course I think that “SAKE” is Japanese for put a sock in it.

    …did anyone else check out the licensing website and notice that the images are protected (ala no right click stealing) but there’s a “print page” button that opens the print friendly page which doesn’t have any protection? Funny and ironic.

    Anyway the new Michigan digs are painful. I think that Bo must be turning over…

    [quote comment=”276445″]…did anyone else check out the licensing website and notice that the images are protected (ala no right click stealing) but there’s a “print page” button that opens the print friendly page which doesn’t have any protection? Funny and ironic.

    Anyway the new Michigan digs are painful. I think that Bo must be turning over…[/quote]

    Remember how well it worked out for Jerry Faust when he strode in and changed a Notre Dame look that had been around for decades?

    [quote comment=”276445″]…did anyone else check out the licensing website and notice that the images are protected (ala no right click stealing) but there’s a “print page” button that opens the print friendly page which doesn’t have any protection? Funny and ironic.

    Anyway the new Michigan digs are painful. I think that Bo must be turning over…[/quote]

    I must have missed something….when did Michigan build a new stadium?

    Croatia is still in blue, and Cito gaston replaces John Gibbons as Blue Jays manager.

    Good riddence to that motherfucker and his pullover!

    I don’t know how you can have a whole article on modern roller derby and not mention the term ‘jammer panties.’ That’s one term for the link with the stars on them, to indicate that they’re the jammer. That’s Brooklyn’s Sassy Hipsaw on the right wearing the star. On the left is Bronx’s Brigitte Barhot, and you can see a similar helmet cover — pivots wear striped helmet covers.

    Also, if you’re asked to wear your number on your arms to help out the refs and the stats people, but your uniforms don’t have sleeves and you don’t have any armbands? No problem — link. This can be a problem if your link, of course…

    rigs, duds, digs…

    Maybe some Sunday jerseys that look like a bowl of Alpha-Bits for “Consonant Displacement Awareness” ?

    I’m sorry. I’m still reeling from the femininity of that Queens-Bronx roller derby match.

    [quote comment=”276450″]link

    not bad….[/quote]

    Whys that fox giving me such a come hither look? The head only logo is fine, the logo with paws looks too female cartoon character to me, I can’t explain why.

    [quote comment=”276383″]“I should have mentioned Ann Calvello in the article (she’s wearing purple and falling to the track in the first Bomber picture) in that she always dyed her hair and wore make-up to match whichever team she skated with that season.”[/quote]

    IIRC, she also was a ticket taker for the 49ers at Candelstick Park.

    [quote comment=”276453″][quote comment=”276450″]link

    not bad….[/quote]

    Whys that fox giving me such a come hither look? The head only logo is fine, the logo with paws looks too female cartoon character to me, I can’t explain why.[/quote]

    Yeah, does kinda say, “We may not beat you, but if we get a chance we’ll spend all your money.”

    [quote comment=”276451″]“Rigs, duds, digs…

    “Maybe some Sunday jerseys that look like a bowl of Alpha-Bits for ‘Consonant Displacement Awareness?”[/quote]

    DAMN IT, RICKO! Why is it that you have to make it like we’re meeting at the old folks’ home later today?

    [quote comment=”276456″][quote comment=”276453″][quote comment=”276450″]link

    not bad….[/quote]

    Whys that fox giving me such a come hither look? The head only logo is fine, the logo with paws looks too female cartoon character to me, I can’t explain why.[/quote]

    Yeah, does kinda say, “We may not beat you, but if we get a chance we’ll spend all your money.”[/quote]

    My father in law once had a border collie, Blue. Poor Blue was hit by a car and lost a leg. Once he lost it, he seemed to run 50% faster, like the old leg had always been holding him back. Maybe those are some really fast fox/wolf/huskie things.

    [quote comment=”276459″][quote comment=”276456″][quote comment=”276453″][quote comment=”276450″]link

    not bad….[/quote]

    Whys that fox giving me such a come hither look? The head only logo is fine, the logo with paws looks too female cartoon character to me, I can’t explain why.[/quote]

    Yeah, does kinda say, “We may not beat you, but if we get a chance we’ll spend all your money.”[/quote]

    My father in law once had a border collie, Blue. Poor Blue was hit by a car and lost a leg. Once he lost it, he seemed to run 50% faster, like the old leg had always been holding him back. Maybe those are some really fast fox/wolf/huskie things.[/quote]

    … and now that I’ve stared a little longer, I think I have to go buy a T-Bone steak … good thing I work for a grocery chain.

    [quote comment=”276458″][quote comment=”276451″]“Rigs, duds, digs…

    “Maybe some Sunday jerseys that look like a bowl of Alpha-Bits for ‘Consonant Displacement Awareness?”[/quote]

    DAMN IT, RICKO! Why is it that you have to make it like we’re meeting at the old folks’ home later today?[/quote]

    DIBS ON THE EXTRA JELLO!

    Well, enjoy Saturday’s long overdue tribute to the St. Pete Pelicans, everybody, and have a great weekend.

    Man, that home made Royals uni that kid’s mom made is rad. Am I right? Sweet stirrups-Chucks combo. I’d choke up on that ginormous bat a little more, though.
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    [quote comment=”276464″]Man, that home made Royals uni that kid’s mom made is rad. I’d choke up on that ginormous bat a little more, though.
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    That’s what his dad was always telling him ;-)

    They just mentioned something on the Blue Jays telecast about Jesse Carlson wearing Cito Gastons old number. I was only half paying attention, but it sounded like he said “until today he wore Gastons old number” but I could be wrong. bluejays.com still lists Carlson as #43, and doesnt have a number for Cito, so its something to watch.

    [quote comment=”276434″]Anybody know why the Croatian football (soccer) squad aren’t wearing their first-choice checkers? They won their group and the Turks were runners up in theirs so the only reason I can come up with is luck, seeing as they wore the blues for all three group games (which they won).

    Checkers:
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    Blues:
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    Turkey’s shirts are Red (home) and White (away) making Croatian home colours a bit impractical. Can’t find anything on who had first choice tonight… shame really, was looking forward to winning the tournament without wearing their home strip at all (unless they were to play Italy in the final)

    [quote comment=\”276466\”]They just mentioned something on the Blue Jays telecast about Jesse Carlson wearing Cito Gastons old number. I was only half paying attention, but it sounded like he said \”until today he wore Gastons old number\” but I could be wrong. bluejays.com still lists Carlson as #43, and doesnt have a number for Cito, so its something to watch.[/quote]

    Follow-up: Carlson is wearing #48 now. I\’ve heard of players switching numbers for players, but have they ever switched for a manager? Making it even more noteworthy: Cito is wearing a jacket.

    [quote comment=”276338″]Lu-Lu, Boom Boom, Chi-Chi, Dum Dum![/quote]

    Yes!! An Odd Couple reference!!!!

    Along those lines, watching Season 4 on DVD the other day…The episode where Oscar gets married to Blanche while he is away at the Army and during inspection, Lt. Felix asks him if the hat he is wearing is regulation (it’s a Mets cap)… and Oscar says..”for the NY Yankees it is”…

    WTF? Right?

    I still love the Odd Couple though…

    No comments about the Sox green unis tonight? They had the white armpit “stains” so that was a major problem.

    It may have contributted to the loss.

    [quote comment=”276440″]
    Not too bad, but definitely not tight like the new NHL ones.[/quote]

    The new NHL ones are a joke.

    > Turkey’s shirts are Red (home) and White (away) making Croatian home colours a bit impractical. Can’t find anything on who had first choice tonight… shame really, was looking forward to winning the tournament without wearing their home strip at all (unless they were to play Italy in the final)

    You’d think that Croatians who won their group would have first choice in kits compared to the Turks who finished the group stage in 2nd. But like mentioned above, they won all 3 games in blue so far, so that was probably the reason.

    [quote comment=”276468″][quote comment=\”276466\”]They just mentioned something on the Blue Jays telecast about Jesse Carlson wearing Cito Gastons old number. I was only half paying attention, but it sounded like he said \”until today he wore Gastons old number\” but I could be wrong. bluejays.com still lists Carlson as #43, and doesnt have a number for Cito, so its something to watch.[/quote]

    Follow-up: Carlson is wearing #48 now. I\’ve heard of players switching numbers for players, but have they ever switched for a manager? Making it even more noteworthy: Cito is wearing a jacket.[/quote]
    Sure, how about earlier this year? Edwin Encarnacion vacated Cincinnati’s #12 for Dusty Baker. Edwin is now #28 in your scorecard.

    I hate to tell Paul this, but Newcastle United’s 2008-09 change kit (or alternate uniforms) are blue…or are they purple?

    [quote comment=”276417″]

    I think I am the only person on Earth that doesn’t like that it has two leagues and plays by different rules. [/quote]

    Then there’s two of us. Maybe there’s a third, but he’s probably drowned in the Atlantic.

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    my girlfired is the one in the green…these girls kick ass

    Those Kentucky Uni’s are HOT! Love the side stripes. Much simplier design. And love the bigger font.

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