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Uni Watch Book Club: The Football Book

New ESPN column today — here’s the link.

Meanwhile: For months now people have been telling me to pick up a copy of The Football Book, part of a series of coffee table books produced by Sports Illustrated. Last week I finally got around to getting a copy, and sure enough, it’s loaded with great uni-related photos. The only problem is that the book is too big to fit in my scanner, so I had to take photos of the pages. Here’s a sampling:

• As you’d expect, there are lots of great helmet photos. Among the highlights: two Lucite facemasks visible in the same frame; a seriously battered helmet; and a good historical survey of gridiron headwear.

• The book features two spectacular footwear close-ups, beginning with one of the most famous shoes in NFL history: Tom Dempsey’s special kicking shoe, which he used to boot his record-setting 63-yard field goal in 1970. Less celebrated but still fascinating is Doak Walker’s kicking shoe, which included a zipper as well as laces, because he played both ways and had to be able to switch footwear quickly. I love that heavily taped zipper tab.

• Before there were electric heaters on the sideline, some players kept warm by wearing burlap sacks, or by indulging their pyromaniacal tendencies.

• Note the handwritten rear-helmet uni numbers worn by the Browns players.

• Speaking of the Browns, check out the team-colored goalpost, shown here in the aftermath of the 1964 championship game.

• Two photos of officials caught my eye. Note how the two zebras in this shot have slightly different stripe widths and sleeve cuff patterns. Meanwhile, anyone know who this memorial armband was honoring?

• Good view here of how Jim Burt had his jersey custom-tied for maximum tightness.

• Before there were Super Bowl rings, there were other championship trinkets.

• And before footballs themselves were manufactured to standard specs, officials kept a special ball caliper on hand to make sure game balls were the proper size and shape.

• Gorgeous gallery of WWII-era game programs here.

• What’s up with the grommets — or are they snaps? — on the pants?

• Why would a player wear his uni number on his spat job?

• And finally, this isn’t uni-related, but it brings up something I’ve always wondered about: When I was a kid, every team huddled up in a circle — except for the Chiefs, who set up like this, with the quarterback facing the rest of the offense. I remember being fascinated by this protocol when I was little, and then they stopped doing it and I forgot all about it until I saw this photo in the book. Anyone know more about this? Was it a Len Dawson thing or a Hank Stram thing? If the latter, did the Saints use the same huddle format when Stram coached them?

And so on — plenty more where all of that came from. Highly recommended.

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Tomlinson Update: Sure enough, as several people noted in yesterday’s comments, Ladainian Tomlinson’s flag decal was missing yet again on Sunday. Dude’s been in violation of a league uniform guideline for nearly half a season now! Is it really possible that nobody else has noticed? Or is he making some kind of statement? Seems unlikely, given his antics during the Chargers’ home opener, but LT is clearly a complex character, so who knows what’s running through his head.

I talked about this with Giants equipment director Joe Skiba when I was out at Giants Stadium two Fridays ago. He gave me a flag decal and suggested that I FedEx it to Tomlinson along with a short, well-worded note (maybe just “Are we missing something?”). It’s a tempting thought — but what if he slapped the decal on his helmet? Then the game would be over. I’ve come to enjoy the weekly “Will he or won’t he?” anticipation surrounding LT’s flag. Why ruin it?

Then again, I love the FedEx idea — I’m torn. And so I turn, my brothers and sisters, to you: Should I sit on my hands and let the weekly game play out, or should I send the flag decal to LT? And if the latter, what sort of note should I include? Cast your vote by sending an e-mail to unipoll at earthlink dot net (not the usual Uni Watch address) and I’ll take the readership’s wishes under advisement.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Not sure how I missed this, since I was watching the Giants/Dolphins game, but Brandon Jacobs’s jersey patch apparently fell off at some point in the second half (with thanks to Eric Stangel, who says he first saw this mentioned on GameUsedForum.com). ”¦ Remember back in the late ’80s, when several NBA teams used socks with the team name knit into the hose? Rob Montoya notes that several Albuquerque high school football teams are using that sock style, including Eldorado High and Cibola High. In addition, Highland High’s socks have stripes, vertical lettering, and a team logo. Albuquerque: the unlikely athletic sock capital of America! ”¦ Speaking of sock adornment, check out this photo (forwarded by Russ Yurk), which was taken during Cardinals training camp in 1981. What’s with the number-stenciled socks? Anyone ever seen that before? ”¦ “South Africa, the recent Rugby World Cup champions, unveiled their 2008 strips this past weekend,” writes Dominic Litten. “It’s quite different from the jerseys they wore in the World Cup. Another interesting quirk about South African rugby is the awesome suit jacket worn by the head coaches (who, by the way, aren’t on the sidelines during games).” ”¦ “Dress to the Nines” curator Tom Shieber checks in with the following observation: “Is this a first? The Rockies wore different uniforms in each game of their four-game World Series loss to the Red Sox. Game One: black vest with gray pinstripe pants. Game Two: gray pinstripe jersey and pants. Game Three: black vest (same as Game One) with white pinstripe pants. Game Four: white pinstripe jersey and pants. Maybe they figured they’d keep switching uniforms until they won. Didn’t seem to work.” ”¦ Nice find by Jeff Barak: a web page that lists every NHL player to have worn a given uni number. ”¦ Neil Berger was looking through some old photos and found some shots of a Bucks uni-history gallery that he took a few years back at the Bradley Center. Additional pics here, here, and here. ”¦ Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Before an NFL game, the game footballs are inspected by the referee, who puts a mark or stamp on them to ensure that there’s no switcheroo. You can see those marks on the tip of the balls used in Sunday’s Niners/Saints game. ”¦ The Hershey Bears wore pink breast cancer awareness jerseys during pregame warm-ups on Sunday. ”¦ The concept of naming rights has gotten seriously out of hand. ”¦ While researching something else I came across a photo of Lance Rentzel wearing a really crude-looking facemask, similar to the cheapo-looking one that Gale Sayers used to wear. ”¦ Michael Rich was at the Georgia Tech/Clemson game a few weeks ago and spotted a fan wearing a custom Tech jersey. ”¦ Interesting interlocking “X” and “V” being used by the Charlotte Checkers for their anniversary patch (with thanks to Kyle Ostendorf). ”¦ Any article that includes the quotes “People would make fun of us and stuff” and “Like if we travel around, people are going to give us a lot of crap” has got to be worth your while — and it is (nice find by Todd Davis). ”¦ More lower-leg shenanigans for the Packers secondary last night, as seen here, here, and here.

Comments (240)

    I wonder how many different uniforms the D-Backs wore in the ’01 World Series. That one went 7 games, so they probably had to repeat.

    I believe the Astros wore a different jersey in each of the 4 games of the ’05 World Series. I think they wore the regular home whites and road grays each for one game. Then I also think they wore the red “Houston” jersey once on the road, and the red “Astros” jersey once at home.

    In the link, the upper left poster shows Steelers-Eagles vs. Green Bay Packers. I’m assuming the Packers played both of those teams that day. Was this common back then or would this have been a double header to make up a postponed game?

    The Grand Rapids Griffins did a game the other night for raising money for breast cancer awareness…they originally wanted to get pink ice but it fell through but they did get pink laces and tape

    link

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    [quote comment=”163096″]In the link, the upper left poster shows Steelers-Eagles vs. Green Bay Packers. I’m assuming the Packers played both of those teams that day. Was this common back then or would this have been a double header to make up a postponed game?[/quote]

    they combined teams during the war

    link

    [quote comment=”163096″]In the link, the upper left poster shows Steelers-Eagles vs. Green Bay Packers. I’m assuming the Packers played both of those teams that day. Was this common back then or would this have been a double header to make up a postponed game?[/quote]

    Doubleheaders were not uncommon in those days — the book spends a few pages discussing this.

    I think that Steelers-Eagles vs. Packers game was when the Pittsburgh and Philadelphia comined their teams for a couple of years. Weren’t the know as the “Steagles”?

    In the WWII era poster gallery, the upper left poster shows Steelers-Eagles vs. Green Bay Packers. I’m assuming the Packers played both of those teams that day. Was this common back then or would this have been a double header to make up a postponed game?

    they combined teams during the war

    link….

    Steagles!

    Not sure how I missed this, since I was watching the Giants/Dolphins game, but Brandon Jacobs’s jersey patch apparently fell off at some point in the second half

    I was watching the game too and wondered if maybe he changed jerseys at halftime. It just seemed like his jersey was awfully white for having played a half of football in the rain and mud.

    Naming butterflies? This gave me an idea. Pharmaceutical companies should sell naming rights to their new medications. A new ED solution? Lets pay a million to call it UP!

    RE: The Chiefs huddle. We huddled like that in high school. The linemen lined up in the front just as they would on the line of scrimmage. The backs and receivers would line up behind them according to their initial position before the snap. This would help the quarterback quickly check the personnel with the play called.

    [quote comment=”163099″][quote comment=”163096″]In the link, the upper left poster shows Steelers-Eagles vs. Green Bay Packers. I’m assuming the Packers played both of those teams that day. Was this common back then or would this have been a double header to make up a postponed game?[/quote]

    Doubleheaders were not uncommon in those days — the book spends a few pages discussing this.[/quote]

    Sounds like the Steagles…

    Well, the Golden Palace butterfly can’t be that far off. Or maybe they don’t need to buy every stupid thing that comes along because at this point they already spring to mind when there is something ridiculous available (or when people streak NFL games).

    In reference to the armband…

    Unless I am missing something the armbands that both players are wearing are bands that were popular in the 80s. They feature a triangle patch with an NFL helmet on it. Not a great pic, but Elway has one on link

    [quote comment=”163109″]In reference to the armband…

    Unless I am missing something the armbands that both players are wearing are bands that were popular in the 80s. They feature a triangle patch with an NFL helmet on it. Not a great pic, but Elway has one on link[/quote]

    oh on the ref… nevermind, I don’t know that one

    [quote comment=”163109″]In reference to the armband…

    Unless I am missing something the armbands that both players are wearing are bands that were popular in the 80s. They feature a triangle patch with an NFL helmet on it. Not a great pic, but Elway has one on link[/quote]

    The Ref is wearing the armband.

    I didn’t realize they had so many combos:

    ON THE DUCK WALK … The Ducks have worn a different uniform combination in every game this season. Oregon’s kit collection features jerseys and pants in black, green, white and yellow, and helmets in green, white and yellow. Every component has been worn at least once in 2007 with the exception of the yellow helmet.

    link

    Not only is Rentzel wearing a lame facemask, it’s on a blue helmet. Is that helmet the same color as the pants the Cowboys still wear with white jerseys? How long did they wear blue helmets, and when did they switch to silver?

    Paul,
    Rentzel’s facemask was made by Marietta a company based in Texas, it is also the helmet company that became MaxPro in the early 70’s. Sayers mask was made by Wilson who were based in Chicago and made most of the helmets for the Bears. Supposedly Halas had business affiliations with Wilson.

    link is an Eastern Conference overview, the author also gives his take on each team’s new uni.

    Uniform Improvement or Fashion Disaster? Does it matter? The Sabres sold a gazillion jerseys last season with a logo that looked like a demonically possessed cashew nut.

    That part made me laugh.

    The number on the referee just looks like his own number, not a memorial band.

    Currently, I see a lot of Pop Warner and other youth football teams huddle the same way as the Chiefs in that picture…the QB looks at the 10 other players lined up in front of him. Makes it very easy to count to make sure there are 11 players.

    [quote comment=”163106″]RE: The Chiefs huddle. We huddled like that in high school. The linemen lined up in the front just as they would on the line of scrimmage. The backs and receivers would line up behind them according to their initial position before the snap. This would help the quarterback quickly check the personnel with the play called.[/quote]
    Same with my HS team. I always thought it was strange that we huddled that way, because Pro teams used the circle. But it did make it easier for the QB to see who was in the game.

    And, regarding the link, I love it!

    ~E~

    [quote comment=”163104″]Not sure how I missed this, since I was watching the Giants/Dolphins game, but Brandon Jacobs’s jersey patch apparently fell off at some point in the second half

    I was watching the game too and wondered if maybe he changed jerseys at halftime. It just seemed like his jersey was awfully white for having played a half of football in the rain and mud.[/quote]

    I’m pretty sure he changed his jersey at halftime. I remember in the first half thinking his jersey was nasty and wondering if he would change at halftime. There was no part of the jersey that was white. All shades of brown and gray.

    The Columbus Cottonmouths went with pink jersey’s for opening weekend as seen link. Also no pics yet but they are going back to the Snake numbers but the next home game isn’t for another two weeks.

    Maybe if the Rockies had worn their best uni (the purple alt) they may have won a game.

    I believe Arizona did also wear 4 different unis in the NLCS.

    [quote comment=”163106″]RE: The Chiefs huddle. We huddled like that in high school. The linemen lined up in the front just as they would on the line of scrimmage. The backs and receivers would line up behind them according to their initial position before the snap. This would help the quarterback quickly check the personnel with the play called.[/quote]

    We did the same. It is easier for the QB to make sure there is eleven on the field

    The Chiefs huddle is called a “choir huddle”. It is used by many, many college, high school and younger teams. I’ve never really noticed that the pros didn’t use it much. It’s valuable in making sure you have everyone you need in the huddle.

    In my junior high coaching days we called it a ‘shoe store’ huddle because we wanted everyone in a very straight line (shoes side-by-side like a shoe store). Otherwise, with JH’ers, you could easily head to the line missing a TE, guard and running back!

    [quote comment=”163132″]- Why would a player wear his uni number link?[/quote]

    oh, thats just eric metcalf in his never ending effort during his career to TRY to be deion sanders. at best he was a junior high version, he never even made jv deion…

    [quote comment=”163132″]Remember back in the late ’80s, when several NBA teams used socks with the team name link?[/quote]

    a pair of pe big nikes!!! and 3/4 big nikes to boot!!! thats a grail right there! big nike was the jv version of the aj i, but all the same a great shoe…

    [quote comment=”163132″]More lower-leg shenanigans for the Packers secondary last night,[/quote]

    say what you want about charles woodson and his sock stylings this season when he went all green, and last night when he went all white. i think both versions looked really sharp, especially last night, when it harkened back to this…
    link

    According to Wikipedia, link wore number 11 as a QB and NFL Official.

    Comparing the picture on Wiki from his college days to this one I think that is him in the photo.

    [quote comment=”163108″]Well, the Golden Palace butterfly can’t be that far off. Or maybe they don’t need to buy every stupid thing that comes along because at this point they already spring to mind when there is something ridiculous available (or when people streak NFL games).[/quote]

    They already bought a monkey.

    [quote comment=”163107″][quote comment=”163099″][quote comment=”163096″]In the link, the upper left poster shows Steelers-Eagles vs. Green Bay Packers. I’m assuming the Packers played both of those teams that day. Was this common back then or would this have been a double header to make up a postponed game?[/quote]

    Doubleheaders were not uncommon in those days — the book spends a few pages discussing this.[/quote]

    Sounds like the Steagles…[/quote]

    If you have any questions about the “Steagles,” link might help.

    Watched the Sharks-Stars game last night on VS. When they unveiled the Stars new unis earlier this year, I thought they second only to Vancouver for ugliness and stupidity.

    I must admit, I did not appreciate how ugly those uniforms were until I actually saw them on TV.

    Whoever designed (and approved) those green puke sweaters should be sentenced to wearing an Orange Bengals jersey (or worse yet, the Orange Dolphins jersey) for the rest of their lives with a hug Nike Swoosh tatooed to their forehead.

    Morons

    “Battered helmet” pic:
    Two questions:

    (1) How the heck did the Chief’s player get his humungous melon into that tiny helmet?
    (2) How did he take it off?

    Just looking at that gave me a headache.

    I think there were different uniform combinations for every game of the 1979 WS with the Pirates and Orioles. I’m not positive but through the 7 games no combination was repeated.

    Why would a player wear his uni number on his spat job?

    Vance Johnson of the Broncos used to right “Good” on the back of his left foot and “Bye” on the back of his right foot. He was a spatter.

    [quote comment=”163106″]RE: The Chiefs huddle. We huddled like that in high school. The linemen lined up in the front just as they would on the line of scrimmage. The backs and receivers would line up behind them according to their initial position before the snap. This would help the quarterback quickly check the personnel with the play called.[/quote]

    Exactly what I was gonna say. We played the Wing-T offense, so the front line went tight end-wing back-fullback-wing back-wide out.

    The Padres wore four different uniform combinations as they were swept in four straight by the Yankees in the 1998 World Series. Game 1-gray jersey/gray pants. Game 2-blue jersey/gray pants. Game 3-blue jersey/white pants. Game 4-while jersey/white pants.

    Cast your vote by sending an e-mail to unipoll at earthlink dot net (not the usual Uni Watch address) and I’ll take the readership’s wishes under advisement.
    Wouldn’t it be easier to include a poll function on the blog. You could have different polls everyday.
    Most posts are about a wierd or historical uniform. You could put the Uni Watch test of “Is it good or is it stupid?” up to the masses.
    link

    [quote comment=”163149″]”Battered helmet” pic:
    Two questions:

    (1) How the heck did the Chief’s player get his humungous melon into that tiny helmet?
    (2) How did he take it off?

    Just looking at that gave me a headache.[/quote]

    HEED. PAPER. NOW.

    [quote comment=”163106″]RE: The Chiefs huddle. We huddled like that in high school. The linemen lined up in the front just as they would on the line of scrimmage. The backs and receivers would line up behind them according to their initial position before the snap. This would help the quarterback quickly check the personnel with the play called.[/quote]

    We did the same thing in HS. The QB would call the play once and the Center and Split End would break out of the huddle. The center would go over the ball and the split end would line up in his spot and let the linesman know if he was lining up on the line of scrimmage or off and ask to make sure he was far enough back or not too far forward. Then the QB would repeat the play and the rest of the team would break the huddle.

    [quote comment=”163148″]Watched the Sharks-Stars game last night on VS. When they unveiled the Stars new unis earlier this year, I thought they second only to Vancouver for ugliness and stupidity.

    I must admit, I did not appreciate how ugly those uniforms were until I actually saw them on TV.

    Whoever designed (and approved) those green puke sweaters should be sentenced to wearing an Orange Bengals jersey (or worse yet, the Orange Dolphins jersey) for the rest of their lives with a hug Nike Swoosh tatooed to their forehead.

    Morons[/quote]

    I hated the Dallas jerseys too when they came out, but they are growing on me. Even though I still think having ‘DALLAS’ on you HOME jersey is stupid. I think people IN Dallas WATCHING the Dallas Stars know where they are. Well, look at that, I’m back to hating the jerseys again……..

    [quote comment=”163158″]The Utah Grizzlies all pink night was actually their second game, not the home opener.[/quote]

    At the risk of being Politically Incorrect, I think the ‘pink’ thing (obviously a good cause) has reached overkill mode. It’s like a good commercial (I know, that’s generally an oxymoron) that is played too much. After a while it becomes annoying.

    [quote comment=”163093″]That Charlotte Checkers annv. logo reminds me of this…link[/quote]
    The Checkers logo is a precursor to our new logo which will be unveiled the second week of January. The 15th Anniversary logo will “morph” into the new one, so to speak. I posted this like 2 months ago.

    RE: the Chief’s old open huddle…
    link use it now as well, or at least something that looks a lot like it.
    DWiz9, curse you for mentioning the most retina-blasting World Series of all time! Sadly, it’s also the first WS I remember.

    [quote comment=”163171″][quote comment=”163158″]The Utah Grizzlies all pink night was actually their second game, not the home opener.[/quote]

    At the risk of being Politically Incorrect, I think the ‘pink’ thing (obviously a good cause) has reached overkill mode. It’s like a good commercial (I know, that’s generally an oxymoron) that is played too much. After a while it becomes annoying.[/quote]
    I don’t think it will be conceived as politically incorrect, I think it will be called “heartless.” But I couldn’t agree with you more.

    Great website stating uni numbers for hockey players, but not completely accurate.
    Just by chance I checked out #11 (NY Rangers Fan) I immediately noticed Adam Graves was left off the list. He wore # 11 i believe for 1 or 2 games before Messier came to town. Then i checked out Graves as #9 and this is what it showed.
    Adam Graves New York Rangers 1998-01
    San Jose Sharks 2001-03

    I do believe Graves wore #9 before ’98 for the Rangers.

    [quote comment=”163160″]Cast your vote by sending an e-mail to unipoll at earthlink dot net (not the usual Uni Watch address) and I’ll take the readership’s wishes under advisement.
    Wouldn’t it be easier to include a poll function on the blog. You could have different polls everyday.
    Most posts are about a wierd or historical uniform. You could put the Uni Watch test of “Is it good or is it stupid?” up to the masses.
    link[/quote]

    Good suggestion. I didn’t know how to make or embed polls — thanks for the tip. I just fiddled around with it and tried to add a poll to today’s post but couldn’t get it exactly the way I wanted it. Don’t wanna do it on the fly like this, but I’ll definitely do it in the future. Thanks!

    [quote comment=”163151″]I think there were different uniform combinations for every game of the 1979 WS with the Pirates and Orioles. I’m not positive but through the 7 games no combination was repeated.[/quote]

    I would love to see the photos from each game of that series. If anyone is interested in screen grabs, this would be a good source:

    link

    [quote comment=”163112″]I didn’t realize they had so many combos:

    ON THE DUCK WALK … The Ducks have worn a different uniform combination in every game this season. Oregon’s kit collection features jerseys and pants in black, green, white and yellow, and helmets in green, white and yellow. Every component has been worn at least once in 2007 with the exception of the yellow helmet.

    link[/quote]

    Yellow helmet, white jersey, green pants! Come on Oregon, you can do it!

    Not so crazy about the lucite facemask “look”, but I love the old Rams’ helmets. The varying length of the horns and not so quite roundness of their shape gives away the fact these helmets were hand painted.

    Ahhh…the charm of the old days of the NFL…

    Re: The Browns and the team-colored goalpost in 1964. One thing that struck me in that crowd shot is: no team gear. A comparable shot today would show most of the fans wearing team jerseys, jackets, hats, or at least brown and orange clothing. That happened to be the first game I can recall watching. I was 9 years old, and I immediately took a magic marker to a white t-shirt and drew an “86” on the front and back (for Gary Collins, the Brown in the photo, who caught 3 TD passes that day). That was what passed for “team gear” for fans back then!

    On the Chiefs’ open huddle. I think George Plimpton has a photo of the Lions huddling that way in “Paper Lion,” and mentioning the disconcertion of seeing the feet pointed at him when he looked down.

    Better view of Charles Woodson’s sock shananigans. He’s got black shoes (the Pakcers wear white), tape spats, biker shorts, and what looks to me like 3 different white sock/legwarmers.
    link

    [quote comment=”163149″]”Battered helmet” pic:
    Two questions:

    (1) How the heck did the Chief’s player get his humungous melon into that tiny helmet?
    (2) How did he take it off?

    Just looking at that gave me a headache.[/quote]

    It looks like he got his helmet link. :0)

    link of a commercial that was showing during last nights game (I’ve also seen it previously). So what is it for? Under Armour, right? Wrong. It’s for a TV of course.
    Has anyone else ever noticed product placement in another companies commercials before? I know that someone has to make all the products in a commercial, but you don’t normally see their logos. On top of that, there is NO WAY they didn’t notice that. It has to be intentional, but why?

    You can see the link

    [quote comment=”163168″][quote comment=”163106″]RE: The Chiefs huddle. We huddled like that in high school. The linemen lined up in the front just as they would on the line of scrimmage. The backs and receivers would line up behind them according to their initial position before the snap. This would help the quarterback quickly check the personnel with the play called.[/quote]

    We did the same thing in HS. The QB would call the play once and the Center and Split End would break out of the huddle. The center would go over the ball and the split end would line up in his spot and let the linesman know if he was lining up on the line of scrimmage or off and ask to make sure he was far enough back or not too far forward. Then the QB would repeat the play and the rest of the team would break the huddle.[/quote]

    Joining the chorus here; when I was a QB in HS, we did it this way as well.

    [quote comment=”163195″]Re: The Browns and the team-colored goalpost in 1964. One thing that struck me in that crowd shot is: no team gear. A comparable shot today would show most of the fans wearing team jerseys, jackets, hats, or at least brown and orange clothing. That happened to be the first game I can recall watching. I was 9 years old, and I immediately took a magic marker to a white t-shirt and drew an “86” on the front and back (for Gary Collins, the Brown in the photo, who caught 3 TD passes that day). That was what passed for “team gear” for fans back then!

    On the Chiefs’ open huddle. I think George Plimpton has a photo of the Lions huddling that way in “Paper Lion,” and mentioning the disconcertion of seeing the feet pointed at him when he looked down.[/quote]

    Good point about the team gear.

    When I was younger, for me, a Giants sweatshirt and the little gumball machine helmet passed as “team gear”. I’m sure in 1974 there were team jerseys and hats available somewhere, but I was damned if I knew where it was.

    And my parents were damned if they were gonna spend money on it!

    [quote comment=”163163″][quote comment=”163149″]”Battered helmet” pic:
    Two questions:

    (1) How the heck did the Chief’s player get his humungous melon into that tiny helmet?
    (2) How did he take it off?

    Just looking at that gave me a headache.[/quote]

    HEED. PAPER. NOW.[/quote]

    Move that melon of yours and get the paper if you can. Haulin that gargantuan cranium about….That was a bit offsides huh? He’ll be crying himself to sleep tonight on his huge pilla.

    YES!! Awesome movie

    [quote comment=”163203″][quote comment=”163168″][quote comment=”163106″]RE: The Chiefs huddle. We huddled like that in high school. The linemen lined up in the front just as they would on the line of scrimmage. The backs and receivers would line up behind them according to their initial position before the snap. This would help the quarterback quickly check the personnel with the play called.[/quote]

    We did the same thing in HS. The QB would call the play once and the Center and Split End would break out of the huddle. The center would go over the ball and the split end would line up in his spot and let the linesman know if he was lining up on the line of scrimmage or off and ask to make sure he was far enough back or not too far forward. Then the QB would repeat the play and the rest of the team would break the huddle.[/quote]

    Joining the chorus here; when I was a QB in HS, we did it this way as well.[/quote]

    Same here. Also, it’s easier to run up to the line, get set, and run a play to catch the defense off-guard if everyone’s already facing the line of scrimmage in a setup like that.

    I haven’t posted in a looong time due to some work issues but i had to today. Then numbers on the sock thing reminds me of one of my mom’s favorite story’s about me from kindergarten. I had 3 pairs of those in different colors an 88, a 77, and a 22. One day I came home from school with my pants rolled up and my mom asked “Ummm, did you play baseball today?” My reply – “Nope, I wanted everyone to see my number!”

    [quote comment=”163089″]I believe the Astros wore a different jersey in each of the 4 games of the ’05 World Series. I think they wore the regular home whites and road grays each for one game. Then I also think they wore the red “Houston” jersey once on the road, and the red “Astros” jersey once at home.[/quote]

    This is incorrect. The Astros wore pinstripes with black hats for both home World Series games. This was because they were midweek night games. The Astros did wear the red “Astros” jersey at home in the NLDS and NLCS in ’04 and ’05 because games in each series fell on a Sunday. And they wore the solid whites for the Saturday home games in the NLDS and NLCS both years, following their regular-season pattern for uniforms at home.

    Also, I’ll try to look today to see about the Saints huddle formation. I have Six Days to Sunday on the ’76 Saints on DVD at home.

    What’s the story on Tom Dempsey’s special kicking shoe aside from it being a record-setting 63-yard field goal in 1970. Did he have half a foot? Please excuse my ignorance.

    The Mets in the 2000 World Series also wore 4 different uniforms.

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    link

    link

    link

    link

    Now had the Mets wore their link, like they did in years past, chances are they would have worn all five of their jerseys, and they might have at least not have had the Yankees clinch on their home ground (which hadn’t happened before).

    [quote comment=”163214″]What’s the story on Tom Dempsey’s special kicking shoe aside from it being a record-setting 63-yard field goal in 1970. Did he have half a foot? Please excuse my ignorance.[/quote]
    I guess I should’ve searched before asking..”Dempsey was born without toes on his right foot (which was his kicking foot). He wore a link with a flattened and enlarged toe area, giving somewhat the appearance of a hammer”.
    ..interesting..

    [quote comment=”163214″]What’s the story on Tom Dempsey’s special kicking shoe aside from it being a record-setting 63-yard field goal in 1970. Did he have half a foot? Please excuse my ignorance.[/quote]

    He was born without toes on his right foot, which is also his kicking foot. This is why he wore a special shoe.

    What’s the story on Tom Dempsey’s special kicking shoe aside from it being a record-setting 63-yard field goal in 1970. Did he have half a foot? Please excuse my ignorance.

    Dempsey was born with a clubbed foot (I think that is the proper medical term). He also had one hand that was deformed. Again, I don’t know the proper medical term.

    [quote comment=”163218″]How many different uniforms did the Pirates wear in the 1979 Series? They sure had a lot of options.[/quote]

    I don’t know how accurate Wikipedia is, but here is what they listed on their 1979 World Series article.

    link

    The Pirates wore four different uniform combinations during the series:
    gold cap, black jersey and gold pants for Games 1 & 5

    black cap, gold jersey and black pants for Games 2, 6 & 7

    black cap and solid white pinstriped uniform for Game 3

    black cap and solid gold uniform for Game 4.

    The Chiefs huddle. We huddled like that in high school. The linemen lined up in the front just as they would on the line of scrimmage. The backs and receivers would line up behind them according to their initial position before the snap. This would help the quarterback quickly check the personnel with the play called.

    We did the same thing in high school. I played end and stood behind the tackle. HE HATED IT.

    Because the offensive line was in front, they were required to bend over so we could see the QB. I was always leaning on the tackle just to make sure I could hear the quarterback’s call.

    In both high school and college [UW-Stevens Point] we huddled up in the same manner as Dawson’s KC Chiefs. In fact, thats the only way I’ve ever huddled up in 13+ years of organized football experience. It could be because you are already in order, thus can make it to the line in a quicker, more orderly fashion.

    It might be Metcalf being Metcalf, but that whole uni looks mighty sharp. One might quibble about the calves, but I sure like the purity of the whole effect.

    [quote comment=”163222″]Anyone know what shoes Clyde Drexler is wearing in the socks picture?

    link

    They look cheaply modeled after the Jordan III’s.[/quote]

    They’re link. (They predate link by a few years.) Not sure what model — I thought at first they were 820s, but they’re not. Actually, the Avia link was a good shoe for ballin’. They came up with the “Cantilever” sole technology that And1 would use many years later as “Harmonix.”

    [quote comment=”163088″]Death Hawks! They have to pick that name. I love the way a 10 year olds mind works.[/quote]
    I’m with you completely on this one! That’s a GREAT name!!!

    [quote comment=”163232″][quote comment=”163222″]Anyone know what shoes Clyde Drexler is wearing in the socks picture?

    link

    They look cheaply modeled after the Jordan III’s.[/quote]

    They’re link. (They predate link by a few years.) Not sure what model — I thought at first they were 820s, but they’re not. Actually, the Avia link was a good shoe for ballin’. They came up with the “Cantilever” sole technology that And1 would use many years later as “Harmonix.”[/quote]

    Er, maybe those Avias don’t predate Jordan IIIs, since another guy in the photo I linked is *wearing* Jordan IIIs. I thought the Avia 830 predated Jordan IIIs, at least. Maybe Glide’s wearing a later Avia model.

    Looking at those Pirates unis of the late ’70s led me to realize that link has failed to recognize the ketchup red uni of ’07. Perhaps, Dressed to the Nines is doing a public service.

    [quote comment=”163237″][quote comment=”163232″][quote comment=”163222″]Anyone know what shoes Clyde Drexler is wearing in the socks picture?

    link

    They look cheaply modeled after the Jordan III’s.[/quote]

    They’re link. (They predate link by a few years.) Not sure what model — I thought at first they were 820s, but they’re not. Actually, the Avia link was a good shoe for ballin’. They came up with the “Cantilever” sole technology that And1 would use many years later as “Harmonix.”[/quote]

    Er, maybe those Avias don’t predate Jordan IIIs, since another guy in the photo I linked is *wearing* Jordan IIIs. I thought the Avia 830 predated Jordan IIIs, at least. Maybe Glide’s wearing a later Avia model.[/quote]

    i thought it was a model of the 825’s…
    that was the one thing about avia’s and new balance.
    it was always difficutl to remember model names because they were always numbers…

    [quote comment=”163238″]Looking at those Pirates unis of the late ’70s led me to realize that link has failed to recognize the ketchup red uni of ’07. Perhaps, Dressed to the Nines is doing a public service.[/quote]
    At the change of the template in Nines (somewhere in the mid 90’s), only the official home and away uniforms are shown. So you also miss out on the Mets’ alternate blackness, the Astros’ de facto red road tops, and the Padres’ “Sunday homes, plus away unless clashing” navy jerseys. Sadly, you also miss out on the AWESOME Milwaukee Brewers retro outfit.

    [quote comment=”163230″]In both high school and college [UW-Stevens Point] we huddled up in the same manner as Dawson’s KC Chiefs. In fact, thats the only way I’ve ever huddled up in 13+ years of organized football experience. It could be because you are already in order, thus can make it to the line in a quicker, more orderly fashion.[/quote]
    Go Pointers!

    I’m not 100% sure that those RSA rugby jerseys are actually new. I was in Ireland during the summer, and the teams release about 3 different versions of the jersey.

    1. Version is made of a canvas material
    , and has a sponsor on it (sponsors aren’t worn on jerseys during world cup games). This jersey also has a button up collar while the other two don’t. I think the point of this strip is to be utilized during personal games of rugby.

    link It has no button up collar, and where the players’ jerseys have a raised rubber area for increased grip, these strips have a screen-print area.

    link It is form fitting and made of yet another material and has raised rubber areas to increase grip. This strip is without a sponsor.

    [quote comment=”163119″]link is an Eastern Conference overview, the author also gives his take on each team’s new uni.

    Uniform Improvement or Fashion Disaster? Does it matter? The Sabres sold a gazillion jerseys last season with a logo that looked like a demonically possessed cashew nut.

    That part made me laugh.[/quote]
    Greg Wyshynski is a horses ass. I’ll bet he’s never been to Jersey yet he’s trying to be funny with his quip on the new arena.

    Reebok just took Nike’s spot.

    Huge banners on the Duck Boats for the Sox World Series parade that say “RBK Nation.”

    So they make worse products and they offend me more…it’s the total package.

    [quote comment=”163237″][quote comment=”163232″][quote comment=”163222″]Anyone know what shoes Clyde Drexler is wearing in the socks picture?

    link

    They look cheaply modeled after the Jordan III’s.[/quote]

    They’re link. (They predate link by a few years.) Not sure what model — I thought at first they were 820s, but they’re not. Actually, the Avia link was a good shoe for ballin’. They came up with the “Cantilever” sole technology that And1 would use many years later as “Harmonix.”[/quote]

    Er, maybe those Avias don’t predate Jordan IIIs, since another guy in the photo I linked is *wearing* Jordan IIIs. I thought the Avia 830 predated Jordan IIIs, at least. Maybe Glide’s wearing a later Avia model.[/quote]

    Wow, Avia. I remember that brand. I think Scottie Pippen even wore some back in the day. A lot of shoes back then… Pony, Pro-Wings, Roo’s, Jordache…

    As I’ve stated before, I hate the pink thing for various reasons–mainly because I hate pink. I don’t think it’s heartless to state that I wish sports would not do the pink thing during Breast Cancer Awareness month. For me, it’s an aesthetic thing, not a “I am for breast cancer” thing.

    I am in favor of more flame designs, however, because I love fire. All my tattoos have fire in them somehow. link need to rethink their design, though, because the flames don’t look real.

    [quote comment=”163106″]RE: The Chiefs huddle. We huddled like that in high school. The linemen lined up in the front just as they would on the line of scrimmage. The backs and receivers would line up behind them according to their initial position before the snap. This would help the quarterback quickly check the personnel with the play called.[/quote]

    Reading this (and the related comments) made me think of the late-70s Landry-led Dallas Cowboys, and how the lineman got to the line of scrimmage, bent at the waist, then in unison stood up and then went down into the three-point stance.

    God, I hated those Cowboys.

    [quote comment=”163217″][quote comment=”163214″]What’s the story on Tom Dempsey’s special kicking shoe aside from it being a record-setting 63-yard field goal in 1970. Did he have half a foot? Please excuse my ignorance.[/quote]
    I guess I should’ve searched before asking..”Dempsey was born without toes on his right foot (which was his kicking foot). He wore a link with a flattened and enlarged toe area, giving somewhat the appearance of a hammer”.
    ..interesting..[/quote]
    More info on Tom Dempsey:
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    link

    [quote comment=”163252″][quote comment=”163237″][quote comment=”163232″][quote comment=”163222″]Anyone know what shoes Clyde Drexler is wearing in the socks picture?

    link

    They look cheaply modeled after the Jordan III’s.[/quote]

    They’re link. (They predate link by a few years.) Not sure what model — I thought at first they were 820s, but they’re not. Actually, the Avia link was a good shoe for ballin’. They came up with the “Cantilever” sole technology that And1 would use many years later as “Harmonix.”[/quote]

    Er, maybe those Avias don’t predate Jordan IIIs, since another guy in the photo I linked is *wearing* Jordan IIIs. I thought the Avia 830 predated Jordan IIIs, at least. Maybe Glide’s wearing a later Avia model.[/quote]

    Wow, Avia. I remember that brand. I think Scottie Pippen even wore some back in the day. A lot of shoes back then… Pony, Pro-Wings, Roo’s, Jordache…[/quote]

    My high school basketball team wore Avia’s for my Senior year, bought them as a team (not unusual now, but pretty unusual in 1987). They were actually pretty comfotable shoes, a bit lacking in cushioning, but pretty good overall. Most of us wore the original Jordan’s one year, just can’t remember if it was 85-86, or 86-87.

    In reference to the Colorado little league problem, in Massachusetts no one wants to play for the Yankees, so the Class A affiliate of the Red Sox, the Lowell Spinners have found a link

    [quote comment=”163264″]Is anyone else highly disturbed by this line of MLB Hats called MLB Twisted?

    link

    It just seems so so wrong.[/quote]

    Well, they are called ‘twisted.’

    [quote comment=”163225″][quote comment=”163218″]How many different uniforms did the Pirates wear in the 1979 Series? They sure had a lot of options.[/quote]

    I don’t know how accurate Wikipedia is, but here is what they listed on their 1979 World Series article.

    link

    The Pirates wore four different uniform combinations during the series:
    gold cap, black jersey and gold pants for Games 1 & 5

    black cap, gold jersey and black pants for Games 2, 6 & 7

    black cap and solid white pinstriped uniform for Game 3

    black cap and solid gold uniform for Game 4.[/quote]

    I have the 1979 World Series highlight tape at home and I can double-check that when I get home but that sounds right.

    It’s sad, but a few years ago, I would have been able to tell you that like the back of my hand. Does anyone remember “2-Minute Drill”, ESPN’s game show predecesor to “Stump the Schwab”? Well, I tried out for this back in ’01. Contestants picked a topic so that if they ended up the finalist, they were asked a really tough question about their topic.

    I watched that tape once a day for like a month and a half before I went to NYC to try out… then completely bombed on the written test so I never even got to the point where you tried out on a test set.

    Great to see the Broncos lose last night wearing those blue on blue monstrosities, especially in dramatic fashion! Now maybe they’ll retire the monochrome look for good.

    No offense to any Denver fans – your team usually looks much better. And if they’d adopt the orange alts full time, they’d look fantastic.

    [quote comment=”163264″]Is anyone else highly disturbed by this line of MLB Hats called MLB Twisted?

    link

    It just seems so so wrong.[/quote]
    Get your official gang wear today at lids.com!

    [quote comment=”163231″]It might be Metcalf being Metcalf, but that whole uni looks mighty sharp. One might quibble about the calves, but I sure like the purity of the whole effect.[/quote]

    Growing up a Browns fan, I liked their white jersey/white pants look. They wore it at home, and since most teams wear colors at home, usually on the road too. In the mid- and late-60s they wore brown so rarely it was quite a shock to see it — maybe only when they played at Dallas.

    [quote comment=”163265″]In reference to the Colorado little league problem, in Massachusetts no one wants to play for the Yankees, so the Class A affiliate of the Red Sox, the Lowell Spinners have found a link[/quote]
    That is hilarious! Favorite line: “Red Sox fans understand how devastating it can be for any child to be on a Yankees youth baseball team in New England”

    That got me thinking, how many of you played in a youth league that used MLB team names like that? I’d never even heard of that until I got older. All our team names were sponsors. I played for the “Local 4950” (Steel Workers Union)

    [quote comment=”163276″][quote comment=”163265″]In reference to the Colorado little league problem, in Massachusetts no one wants to play for the Yankees, so the Class A affiliate of the Red Sox, the Lowell Spinners have found a link[/quote]
    That is hilarious! Favorite line: “Red Sox fans understand how devastating it can be for any child to be on a Yankees youth baseball team in New England”

    That got me thinking, how many of you played in a youth league that used MLB team names like that? I’d never even heard of that until I got older. All our team names were sponsors. I played for the “Local 4950” (Steel Workers Union)[/quote]

    At least when I was a kid, the youth leagues in Lafayette, IN did not use MLB team names, instead opting for local businesses. I remember playing for the likes of Arby’s, Camera Craftsmen, Deluxe Homes and Arni’s as a child!

    [quote comment=”163140″]The Chiefs huddle is called a “choir huddle”. It is used by many, many college, high school and younger teams. I’ve never really noticed that the pros didn’t use it much. It’s valuable in making sure you have everyone you need in the huddle.[/quote]
    Definitely a Hank Stram thing. One of his many innovations. My dad has always used this formation when coaching(even for my flag-football teams) simply because the Chiefs did it.

    As for the battered helmet, I think it just had to be something with the paint job on our helmets back then, because every linemen’s helmet looks that same way in every Chiefs picture from the 60s and 70s. And to be honest, I don’t know who the player is(I’m only 21).

    [quote comment=”163252″][quote comment=”163237″][quote comment=”163232″][quote comment=”163222″]Anyone know what shoes Clyde Drexler is wearing in the socks picture?

    link

    They look cheaply modeled after the Jordan III’s.[/quote]

    They’re link. (They predate link by a few years.) Not sure what model — I thought at first they were 820s, but they’re not. Actually, the Avia link was a good shoe for ballin’. They came up with the “Cantilever” sole technology that And1 would use many years later as “Harmonix.”[/quote]

    Er, maybe those Avias don’t predate Jordan IIIs, since another guy in the photo I linked is *wearing* Jordan IIIs. I thought the Avia 830 predated Jordan IIIs, at least. Maybe Glide’s wearing a later Avia model.[/quote]

    Wow, Avia. I remember that brand. I think Scottie Pippen even wore some back in the day. A lot of shoes back then… Pony, Pro-Wings, Roo’s, Jordache…[/quote]

    clyde started his career wearing link (whose other big endorser was link).

    pippen also began as an link.

    pony tried to piggy back off of the success of the aj1 by producing their “city wings” line.
    made popular then by orlando woolridge when he was in chicago, and link.

    [quote comment=”163278″][quote comment=”163276″][quote comment=”163265″]In reference to the Colorado little league problem, in Massachusetts no one wants to play for the Yankees, so the Class A affiliate of the Red Sox, the Lowell Spinners have found a link[/quote]
    That is hilarious! Favorite line: “Red Sox fans understand how devastating it can be for any child to be on a Yankees youth baseball team in New England”

    That got me thinking, how many of you played in a youth league that used MLB team names like that? I’d never even heard of that until I got older. All our team names were sponsors. I played for the “Local 4950” (Steel Workers Union)[/quote]

    At least when I was a kid, the youth leagues in Lafayette, IN did not use MLB team names, instead opting for local businesses. I remember playing for the likes of Arby’s, Camera Craftsmen, Deluxe Homes and Arni’s as a child![/quote]

    My sons’ Little League uses the sponsor plus some mascot (usually marine life since we’re in Florida). My favorite combines a law firm’s name and sharks.

    [quote comment=”163283″][quote comment=”163264″]Is anyone else highly disturbed by this line of MLB Hats called MLB Twisted?

    link

    It just seems so so wrong.[/quote]
    link to any KC fan.[/quote]

    if there were any

    [quote comment=”163276″]That got me thinking, how many of you played in a youth league that used MLB team names like that? I’d never even heard of that until I got older. All our team names were sponsors. I played for the “Local 4950” (Steel Workers Union)[/quote]
    I nearly quit little leauge the yaer they made me play on the Yankees. Not that spending two years as a White Sox player was much better. Threw all three jerseys away as soon as the season was over.

    [quote comment=”163105″]Naming butterflies? This gave me an idea. Pharmaceutical companies should sell naming rights to their new medications. A new ED solution? Lets pay a million to call it UP![/quote]
    Would never work. The FDA and DDMAC have very strict guidelines on trade names for new drugs. A company has to do pretty extensive research to make sure the name of their drug won’t imply any claims or promises in any way.

    [quote comment=”163283″][quote comment=”163264″]Is anyone else highly disturbed by this line of MLB Hats called MLB Twisted?

    link

    It just seems so so wrong.[/quote]
    link to any KC fan.[/quote]
    Whats with putting every team in Oakland A’s colors?

    [quote comment=”163248″]I’m not 100% sure that those RSA rugby jerseys are actually new. I was in Ireland during the summer, and the teams release about 3 different versions of the jersey.

    1. Version is made of a canvas material
    , and has a sponsor on it (sponsors aren’t worn on jerseys during world cup games). This jersey also has a button up collar while the other two don’t. I think the point of this strip is to be utilized during personal games of rugby.

    link It has no button up collar, and where the players’ jerseys have a raised rubber area for increased grip, these strips have a screen-print area.

    link It is form fitting and made of yet another material and has raised rubber areas to increase grip. This strip is without a sponsor.[/quote]

    The South Africa jerseys are brand new. They were unveiled over the weekend in conjunction with a new sponsorship link. The agreement goes for six years.

    And, no offense, you’re description is a tad off. In short, any canvas one is probably a “traditional” replica jersey that has the features of a traditional jersey, with a collar and buttons (and often long sleeves). The first jersey you link to is a replica, akin to buying a replica NFL jersey that doesn’t have the elastic on the ends of the sleeves and isn’t form fitting.

    BTW, you’d be hard pressed to see any teams, USA high school included, that have playing jerseys that aren’t form-fitting. Most manufacturers are turning towards tight-fitting, under-armour type jerseys because they last longer and dry faster (crucial when teams play multiple games in one day).

    The second jersey you reference is merely the non-RWC strip. In non-RWC competition, you better believe that many teams (including England, Ireland, Scotland, etc.) sport a sponsor on their chest (or stomach). South Africa’s jerseys prior to RWC looked like link.

    [quote comment=”163279″][quote comment=”163140″]The Chiefs huddle is called a “choir huddle”. It is used by many, many college, high school and younger teams. I’ve never really noticed that the pros didn’t use it much. It’s valuable in making sure you have everyone you need in the huddle.[/quote]
    Definitely a Hank Stram thing. One of his many innovations. My dad has always used this formation when coaching(even for my flag-football teams) simply because the Chiefs did it.

    As for the battered helmet, I think it just had to be something with the paint job on our helmets back then, because every linemen’s helmet looks that same way in every Chiefs picture from the 60s and 70s. And to be honest, I don’t know who the player is(I’m only 21).[/quote]

    That picture brings back memories. I was a center in high school, so I was the middle guy in the front row, right across from the QB. I was usually ducking down so the RB and FB behind me could see the QB.

    [quote comment=”163286″][quote comment=”163283″][quote comment=”163264″]Is anyone else highly disturbed by this line of MLB Hats called MLB Twisted?

    link

    It just seems so so wrong.[/quote]
    link to any KC fan.[/quote]

    if there were any[/quote]
    Disregarding the shot at my Royals, its not just offensive to Royals fans. The A’s used to be the Kansas City A’s. Then they left KC for Oakland(home of the damn Raiders)…KC hates Oakland more than New York hates Boston.

    [quote comment=”163195″]Re: The Browns and the team-colored goalpost in 1964. One thing that struck me in that crowd shot is: no team gear. A comparable shot today would show most of the fans wearing team jerseys, jackets, hats, or at least brown and orange clothing. That happened to be the first game I can recall watching. I was 9 years old, and I immediately took a magic marker to a white t-shirt and drew an “86” on the front and back (for Gary Collins, the Brown in the photo, who caught 3 TD passes that day). That was what passed for “team gear” for fans back then!

    On the Chiefs’ open huddle. I think George Plimpton has a photo of the Lions huddling that way in “Paper Lion,” and mentioning the disconcertion of seeing the feet pointed at him when he looked down.[/quote]

    I noticed, during the insufferable re-enactments that Fox did for the World Series, a fan wearing NY (baseball) Giants gear alongside other 1951 “fans” in period dress. I thought “there’s no way a fan would be dressed in team gear back then”.

    [quote comment=”163282″]I played for “It’ll Do Tavern” and a couple real estate agents.[/quote]

    My first team was the “Reds” but it was a red jersey with the “Cary, N.C. Rotary Club” logo on it. All the teams had the same logo but different colors, based on the corresponding MLB team. Then later I played for a sponsored team – Grocery Boy Jr. It wasn’t until I moved to Texas that I was on the Twins, wearing the adjustable “M” cap and cheap jersey knockoff.

    [quote comment=”163276″][quote comment=”163265″]In reference to the Colorado little league problem, in Massachusetts no one wants to play for the Yankees, so the Class A affiliate of the Red Sox, the Lowell Spinners have found a link[/quote]
    That is hilarious! Favorite line: “Red Sox fans understand how devastating it can be for any child to be on a Yankees youth baseball team in New England”

    That got me thinking, how many of you played in a youth league that used MLB team names like that? I’d never even heard of that until I got older. All our team names were sponsors. I played for the “Local 4950” (Steel Workers Union)[/quote]

    My little league team had MLB teams for the league. I remember being on the cubs, angels, white sox, and reds. The most popular teams were the Tigers (because it was the home team) and the Diamondbacks (because they were a newer team and everyone wanted to wear teal jerseys)

    [quote comment=”163276″][quote comment=”163265″]In reference to the Colorado little league problem, in Massachusetts no one wants to play for the Yankees, so the Class A affiliate of the Red Sox, the Lowell Spinners have found a link[/quote]
    That is hilarious! Favorite line: “Red Sox fans understand how devastating it can be for any child to be on a Yankees youth baseball team in New England”

    That got me thinking, how many of you played in a youth league that used MLB team names like that? I’d never even heard of that until I got older. All our team names were sponsors. I played for the “Local 4950” (Steel Workers Union)[/quote]

    I played for a local Coldwell Banker Real Estate office. The uni’s were a blue t-shirt with a Coldwell Banker “For Sale” sign screen printed on. The salesman was our coach, and it had his name on the sign too. Never thought of it as logo creep back then. Sorry no pics.

    [quote comment=”163297″][quote comment=”163282″]I played for “It’ll Do Tavern” and a couple real estate agents.[/quote]

    My first team was the “Reds” but it was a red jersey with the “Cary, N.C. Rotary Club” logo on it. All the teams had the same logo but different colors, based on the corresponding MLB team. Then later I played for a sponsored team – Grocery Boy Jr. It wasn’t until I moved to Texas that I was on the Twins, wearing the adjustable “M” cap and cheap jersey knockoff.[/quote]

    Hmm… maybe this is regional. The leagues I played in back in Delaware always had team names, not sponsors. By total coincidence, and in two different leagues, I played for the Yankees four years in a row. At least one year in the late ’80s or early ’90s, I wore #2 because no recognizable Yankee Hall of Famer had worn it yet.

    [quote comment=”163237″][quote comment=”163232″][quote comment=”163222″][/quote][/quote]

    Er, maybe those Avias don’t predate Jordan IIIs, since another guy in the photo I linked is *wearing* Jordan IIIs. I thought the Avia 830 predated Jordan IIIs, at least. Maybe Glide’s wearing a later Avia model.[/quote]

    Another Guy?Another Guy?
    You mean Michael Jordan?

    [quote comment=”163106″]RE: The Chiefs huddle. We huddled like that in high school. The linemen lined up in the front just as they would on the line of scrimmage. The backs and receivers would line up behind them according to their initial position before the snap. This would help the quarterback quickly check the personnel with the play called.[/quote]

    We huddled like that in high school as well. Early ’80’s. As a receiver, I would bring the play in, my position in the huddle was middle of the back row. The QB would look straight at me and call the play, I would nod when he got it right.

    [quote comment=”163291″][quote comment=”163283″][quote comment=”163264″]Is anyone else highly disturbed by this line of MLB Hats called MLB Twisted?

    link

    It just seems so so wrong.[/quote]
    link to any KC fan.[/quote]
    Whats with putting every team in Oakland A’s colors?[/quote]

    Because green and yellow are a sweet combo. I’m in the minority here but just look at how great the Ducks uniforms are.

    [quote comment=”163304″][quote comment=”163237″][quote comment=”163232″][quote comment=”163222″][/quote][/quote]

    Er, maybe those Avias don’t predate Jordan IIIs, since another guy in the photo I linked is *wearing* Jordan IIIs. I thought the Avia 830 predated Jordan IIIs, at least. Maybe Glide’s wearing a later Avia model.[/quote]

    Another Guy?Another Guy?
    You mean Michael Jordan?[/quote]

    C’mon, I know it’s obviously MJ. No one else was allowed to wear Jordans in the NBA in those days.

    [quote comment=”163298″][quote comment=”163276″][quote comment=”163265″]In reference to the Colorado little league problem, in Massachusetts no one wants to play for the Yankees, so the Class A affiliate of the Red Sox, the Lowell Spinners have found a link[/quote]
    That is hilarious! Favorite line: “Red Sox fans understand how devastating it can be for any child to be on a Yankees youth baseball team in New England”

    That got me thinking, how many of you played in a youth league that used MLB team names like that? I’d never even heard of that until I got older. All our team names were sponsors. I played for the “Local 4950” (Steel Workers Union)[/quote]

    My little league team had MLB teams for the league. I remember being on the cubs, angels, white sox, and reds. The most popular teams were the Tigers (because it was the home team) and the Diamondbacks (because they were a newer team and everyone wanted to wear teal jerseys)[/quote]

    In my experience, it differed from league to league. Most leagues had a sponsor but there was a league in my hometown that was completely run by a church and they had the teams take on MLB names. I think the combination sponsor/team name thing has caught on recently in my area where the jersey will have some sort of business but the team’s hat will be an MLB cap.

    Never affected me though, from ages 6-14 my sponsor was either a bar or barbershop… and quite honestly, take away the beer and that’s pretty much the same thing, a men’s social club!!!

    I did have one experience that kind of irked me, I played for a team with the sponsor of Alberter motors, a local car dealership. Our manager was a Braves fan so our hats were 59/50 Braves caps. Being a Pirate fan and this being shortly after the Sid Bream slide into home, well, it was like rubbing salt in the wound!

    [quote comment=”163282″]I played for “It’ll Do Tavern” and a couple real estate agents.[/quote]

    Our “jerseys” (actually t-shirts) had the YMCA logo on the front for every team, and the individual team sponsor’s name on the back. One year I played for Fairfield National Bank (black shirts and caps), another for Exchange Club (green). The whole league wore the same gray flannel pants and the same black stirrup socks with white stripes.

    [quote comment=”163303″][quote comment=”163297″][quote comment=”163282″]I played for “It’ll Do Tavern” and a couple real estate agents.[/quote]

    My first team was the “Reds” but it was a red jersey with the “Cary, N.C. Rotary Club” logo on it. All the teams had the same logo but different colors, based on the corresponding MLB team. Then later I played for a sponsored team – Grocery Boy Jr. It wasn’t until I moved to Texas that I was on the Twins, wearing the adjustable “M” cap and cheap jersey knockoff.[/quote]

    Hmm… maybe this is regional. The leagues I played in back in Delaware always had team names, not sponsors. By total coincidence, and in two different leagues, I played for the Yankees four years in a row. At least one year in the late ’80s or early ’90s, I wore #2 because no recognizable Yankee Hall of Famer had worn it yet.[/quote]

    I played for the Yankees when I was eight and the Cardinals at nine. Our Little League teams had local sponsors, we were Ebonite. This was in the 70’s and we had those “Bad News Bears” uni’s where each uni was white with a single color piping, name, and number. Thankfully, we were blue and not yellow.

    [quote comment=”163276″]
    That got me thinking, how many of you played in a youth league that used MLB team names like that? I’d never even heard of that until I got older. All our team names were sponsors. I played for the “Local 4950” (Steel Workers Union)[/quote]

    I forgot this: my favorite part of each new Little League season was buying the matching color stirrups for each uniform. I need to scan these pics, because I have pictures of me over the years in stirrups that were red, blue, green, black, and (yes) purple. This was in the early 90s, and I remember some teammates just bought the white socks with the vertical colored stripe. Even back then I thought those looked really stupid as I opted for the real thing.

    When I was younger I played for the Miramar (FL) Hurricanes and then the Pembroke Lakes Dodgers. We had sponsors, but they were only on the backs of the uniforms. I’m in an adult league now and we use MLB teams, but not necessarily the logos. We’re the Brewers.

    Paul, I enjoyed your column today on espn.com but I have to correct you. Estudiantes Madrid which played against the Memphis Grizzlies is not a collegiate team despite its name. It’s a professional team from Liga ACB in Spain.
    Actually, the player on the picture is Florent Pietrus, member of the french national team and brother of Mike Pietrus of the Golden State Warriors.

    in reference to the espn column today, i’ve noticed that a lot of the jersey spelling mistakes are hard for me to notice right away. i read somewhere that studies have shown that as long as all the letters that are supposed to be in a word are there, people will often be able to read the word as it is supposed to be written as long as the first and last letters are correct. this could be a reason that a lot of the errors go unnoticed until after they are immortalized on the field of play.

    [quote comment=”163309″][quote comment=”163291″][quote comment=”163283″][quote comment=”163264″]Is anyone else highly disturbed by this line of MLB Hats called MLB Twisted?

    link

    It just seems so so wrong.[/quote]
    link to any KC fan.[/quote]
    Whats with putting every team in Oakland A’s colors?[/quote]

    Because green and yellow are a sweet combo. I’m in the minority here but just look at how great the Ducks uniforms are.[/quote]
    They are a good combo…but

    link= BAD
    link= GOOD!!!

    [quote comment=”163281″]pony tried to piggy back off of the success of the aj1 by producing their “city wings” line.
    made popular then by orlando woolridge when he was in chicago, and link.[/quote]

    Pony’s still around, mostly in the “retro/casual” market — however, they have link for the first time in ages. (That’s Knicks rookie Wilson Chandler, in case you’re one of the 99.5% of sports fans who has no idea who he is.)

    I’m wearing some link link today, as a matter of fact. They’re getting really hard to find. I bought two pairs — “one to stock, one to rock.”

    [quote comment=”163304″][quote comment=”163237″][quote comment=”163232″][quote comment=”163222″][/quote][/quote]

    Er, maybe those Avias don’t predate Jordan IIIs, since another guy in the photo I linked is *wearing* Jordan IIIs. I thought the Avia 830 predated Jordan IIIs, at least. Maybe Glide’s wearing a later Avia model.[/quote]

    Another Guy?Another Guy?
    You mean Michael Jordan?[/quote]

    It was a joke on his part. His name and AIR Jordan’s are both synonomous. MJ is one of those guys that really don’t need to be mentioned by name.

    Oh, Lord! Andray Blatche is actually rockin’ the link in a preseason game!

    (It’s a one-off mashup of the Jordan III, IV, and V — never, EVER thought I’d see it in an NBA game.)

    [quote comment=”163281″][quote comment=”163252″][quote comment=”163237″][quote comment=”163232″][quote comment=”163222″]Anyone know what shoes Clyde Drexler is wearing in the socks picture?

    link

    They look cheaply modeled after the Jordan III’s.[/quote]

    They’re link. (They predate link by a few years.) Not sure what model — I thought at first they were 820s, but they’re not. Actually, the Avia link was a good shoe for ballin’. They came up with the “Cantilever” sole technology that And1 would use many years later as “Harmonix.”[/quote]

    Er, maybe those Avias don’t predate Jordan IIIs, since another guy in the photo I linked is *wearing* Jordan IIIs. I thought the Avia 830 predated Jordan IIIs, at least. Maybe Glide’s wearing a later Avia model.[/quote]

    Wow, Avia. I remember that brand. I think Scottie Pippen even wore some back in the day. A lot of shoes back then… Pony, Pro-Wings, Roo’s, Jordache…[/quote]

    clyde started his career wearing link (whose other big endorser was link).

    pippen also began as an link.

    pony tried to piggy back off of the success of the aj1 by producing their “city wings” line.
    made popular then by orlando woolridge when he was in chicago, and link.[/quote]

    I had the lowtop Payton Roo’s as a kid (and Payton KFC single). I still look back upon them with fondess… if not for the Bear’s color scheme only. Well, the pocket too.

    [quote comment=”163329″][quote comment=”163309″][quote comment=”163291″][quote comment=”163283″][quote comment=”163264″]Is anyone else highly disturbed by this line of MLB Hats called MLB Twisted?

    link

    It just seems so so wrong.[/quote]
    link to any KC fan.[/quote]
    Whats with putting every team in Oakland A’s colors?[/quote]

    Because green and yellow are a sweet combo. I’m in the minority here but just look at how great the Ducks uniforms are.[/quote]
    They are a good combo…but

    link= BAD
    link= GOOD!!![/quote]
    I like the ducks unis. The tread pattern is stupid, but outside of that I really like them. I wish they would wear the yellow pants and yellow top combo more.

    My local little league actually had 4 different levels of teams for the different age groups and talent levels (as most probably do) A,AA,AAA and MLB and would actually use the team names and logos of the respective teams…I played on the Clearwater and Reading Phillies and then Scranton (AAA) and finally “made” the Phillies my last 2 years in the league…it was kinda cool actually

    [quote comment=”163310″][quote comment=”163304″][quote comment=”163237″][quote comment=”163232″][quote comment=”163222″][/quote][/quote]

    Er, maybe those Avias don’t predate Jordan IIIs, since another guy in the photo I linked is *wearing* Jordan IIIs. I thought the Avia 830 predated Jordan IIIs, at least. Maybe Glide’s wearing a later Avia model.[/quote]

    Another Guy?Another Guy?
    You mean Michael Jordan?[/quote]

    C’mon, I know it’s obviously MJ. No one else was allowed to wear Jordans in the NBA in those days.[/quote]

    Just messin’ with ya.

    With Joe Torre gone from the Yankees (best Yankee manager of my time) and reports of him going to the Dodgers (awesome!), this could mark the first time that we’ll see the TORRE name on a jersey in twelve years. All power to ya Joe.

    [quote comment=”163353″]With Joe Torre gone from the Yankees (best Yankee manager of my time) and reports of him going to the Dodgers (awesome!), this could mark the first time that we’ll see the TORRE name on a jersey in twelve years. All power to ya Joe.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t it have been on the back of the Yankees road uni’s? Anyway here is a shot of him during the All Star game in link.

    [quote comment=”163358″][quote comment=”163353″]With Joe Torre gone from the Yankees (best Yankee manager of my time) and reports of him going to the Dodgers (awesome!), this could mark the first time that we’ll see the TORRE name on a jersey in twelve years. All power to ya Joe.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t it have been on the back of the Yankees road uni’s? Anyway here is a shot of him during the All Star game in link.[/quote]
    No the Yankees are nameless on both home|away jerseys. Was that all star game in Seattle?

    [quote comment=”163205″][quote comment=”163163″][quote comment=”163149″]”Battered helmet” pic:
    Two questions:

    (1) How the heck did the Chief’s player get his humungous melon into that tiny helmet?
    (2) How did he take it off?

    Just looking at that gave me a headache.[/quote]

    HEED. PAPER. NOW.[/quote]

    Move that melon of yours and get the paper if you can. Haulin that gargantuan cranium about….That was a bit offsides huh? He’ll be crying himself to sleep tonight on his huge pilla.

    YES!! Awesome movie[/quote]
    I Married an Axe Murderer!

    [quote comment=”163359″][quote comment=”163358″][quote comment=”163353″]With Joe Torre gone from the Yankees (best Yankee manager of my time) and reports of him going to the Dodgers (awesome!), this could mark the first time that we’ll see the TORRE name on a jersey in twelve years. All power to ya Joe.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t it have been on the back of the Yankees road uni’s? Anyway here is a shot of him during the All Star game in link.[/quote]
    No the Yankees are nameless on both home|away jerseys. Was that all star game in Seattle?[/quote]

    No it was at Miller Park. You aer right about home and away being nameless.

    UGA used the Chiefs huddle during the Tarkenton era. The legendary Lewis Grizzard even refers to “Tarkenton talking to his two rows of five” in one of his books.

    Is anyone else highly disturbed by this line of MLB Hats called MLB Twisted?

    link

    It just seems so so wrong.
    ———

    But how come the D-backs got off so light, while my beloved Tigers had their colors dragged through the mud.

    Although the idea of a Dodgers fan buying a hat in Giant colors does make me laugh.

    [quote comment=”163363″][quote comment=”163359″][quote comment=”163358″][quote comment=”163353″]With Joe Torre gone from the Yankees (best Yankee manager of my time) and reports of him going to the Dodgers (awesome!), this could mark the first time that we’ll see the TORRE name on a jersey in twelve years. All power to ya Joe.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t it have been on the back of the Yankees road uni’s? Anyway here is a shot of him during the All Star game in link.[/quote]
    No the Yankees are nameless on both home|away jerseys. Was that all star game in Seattle?[/quote]

    No it was at Miller Park. You aer right about home and away being nameless.[/quote]
    TORRE on a Dodger jersey would look good, next up would be a Pirates jersey. If I could photoshop, I would fix up a Pirates jersey with TORRE # 6 on the back..hint hint..nudge ;-)

    170+ comments…I’m not sifting through them for something as silly as I’m going to say…

    Isn’t Highland High in Albuquerque where Beavis and Butt-Head went to high school?

    [quote comment=”163368″]Look at the logo creep on the left, versus the non logo creep on the right:

    link

    Eddie Robinson and Doug Williams are pictured[/quote]

    Yeah, cause there’s no logo on Williams’ shirt.

    [quote comment=”163368″]Look at the logo creep on the left, versus the non logo creep on the right:

    link

    Eddie Robinson and Doug Williams are pictured[/quote]

    Gotta love Eddie’s Charlie Brown tie!

    [quote comment=”163377″]Not uni, but logo related. Cool before and after logo site with commentary on each redesign. Few sports logos in there.
    link[/quote]
    That’s a good link, when Coca-Cola revised their can was about the time I changed to Pepsi. The new Coke is far too caramalized.

    [quote comment=”163329″][quote comment=”163309″][quote comment=”163291″][quote comment=”163283″][quote comment=”163264″]Is anyone else highly disturbed by this line of MLB Hats called MLB Twisted?

    link

    It just seems so so wrong.[/quote]
    link to any KC fan.[/quote]
    Whats with putting every team in Oakland A’s colors?[/quote]

    Because green and yellow are a sweet combo. I’m in the minority here but just look at how great the Ducks uniforms are.[/quote]
    They are a good combo…but

    link= BAD
    link= GOOD!!![/quote]

    This is link!!

    This is link!

    [quote comment=”163256″][quote comment=”163217″][quote comment=”163214″]What’s the story on Tom Dempsey’s special kicking shoe aside from it being a record-setting 63-yard field goal in 1970. Did he have half a foot? Please excuse my ignorance.[/quote]
    I guess I should’ve searched before asking..”Dempsey was born without toes on his right foot (which was his kicking foot). He wore a link with a flattened and enlarged toe area, giving somewhat the appearance of a hammer”.
    ..interesting..[/quote]
    More info on Tom Dempsey:
    link
    link[/quote]

    Here’s a great article from this weekend’s NYT Magazine. It is def non uni related but there’s some great stories about Dempsey’s kicking shoe and how it pissed off Alex Karras and Tex Schramm.
    link

    A companion to SI’s football book is a similar book called the Baseball Book. It is also a coffee table book with a lot of great photography. In that book, there is a photograph of Hank Aaron from the 1950s where he appears to be wearing uniform number 52 or 57. Do you know anything about that? I had never heard of Aaron wearing a different number.

    [quote comment=”163413″]Paul,
    I went on to ESPN.com and clicked – Uni Watch: NBA preview, and link comes up..thought you should know.[/quote]
    Click on the Page 2 link, and then the Uni Watch link. Don’t go straight from the ESPN homepage.

    Hi there, I’m new to Uni Watch, so I’m sure this has been answered before, but why does the NFL have the rule about socks meeting the pants? Is there someplace where I could read the NFL dress code policy to see their other rules and regulations? Just interested, and I now want to say that I’m now addicted to this site!

    -Lauren

    [quote comment=”163420″]Hi there, I’m new to Uni Watch, so I’m sure this has been answered before, but why does the NFL have the rule about socks meeting the pants? Is there someplace where I could read the NFL dress code policy to see their other rules and regulations? Just interested, and I now want to say that I’m now addicted to this site!

    -Lauren[/quote]
    Not only do they have to meet, but below the knee :-)
    Welcome to the family.
    The NFL is extremely image-conscious, due to its great American tradition and the revenue it earns, so they have many uniform rules to maintain a standardized, professional look of a football player. (Among many other things, they also control tape color, shoe color, and on-field logos and brands.)

    [quote comment=”163369″][quote comment=”163363″][quote comment=”163359″][quote comment=”163358″][quote comment=”163353″]With Joe Torre gone from the Yankees (best Yankee manager of my time) and reports of him going to the Dodgers (awesome!), this could mark the first time that we’ll see the TORRE name on a jersey in twelve years. All power to ya Joe.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t it have been on the back of the Yankees road uni’s? Anyway here is a shot of him during the All Star game in link.[/quote]
    No the Yankees are nameless on both home|away jerseys. Was that all star game in Seattle?[/quote]

    No it was at Miller Park. You aer right about home and away being nameless.[/quote]
    TORRE on a Dodger jersey would look good, next up would be a Pirates jersey. If I could photoshop, I would fix up a Pirates jersey with TORRE # 6 on the back..hint hint..nudge ;-)[/quote]

    Cardinal fans wonder what all the Torre fuss is about.

    [quote comment=”163433″][quote comment=”163369″][quote comment=”163363″][quote comment=”163359″][quote comment=”163358″][quote comment=”163353″]With Joe Torre gone from the Yankees (best Yankee manager of my time) and reports of him going to the Dodgers (awesome!), this could mark the first time that we’ll see the TORRE name on a jersey in twelve years. All power to ya Joe.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t it have been on the back of the Yankees road uni’s? Anyway here is a shot of him during the All Star game in link.[/quote]
    No the Yankees are nameless on both home|away jerseys. Was that all star game in Seattle?[/quote]

    No it was at Miller Park. You aer right about home and away being nameless.[/quote]
    TORRE on a Dodger jersey would look good, next up would be a Pirates jersey. If I could photoshop, I would fix up a Pirates jersey with TORRE # 6 on the back..hint hint..nudge ;-)[/quote]

    Cardinal fans wonder what all the Torre fuss is about.[/quote]

    AMEN!!!!!

    [quote comment=”163264″]Is anyone else highly disturbed by this line of MLB Hats called MLB Twisted?

    link

    It just seems so so wrong.[/quote]

    My original response got eaten, so here it is again…

    link is sickening, and a disgrace…so very wrong!

    ~E~

    [quote comment=”163435″][quote comment=”163433″][quote comment=”163369″][quote comment=”163363″][quote comment=”163359″][quote comment=”163358″][quote comment=”163353″]With Joe Torre gone from the Yankees (best Yankee manager of my time) and reports of him going to the Dodgers (awesome!), this could mark the first time that we’ll see the TORRE name on a jersey in twelve years. All power to ya Joe.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t it have been on the back of the Yankees road uni’s? Anyway here is a shot of him during the All Star game in link.[/quote]
    No the Yankees are nameless on both home|away jerseys. Was that all star game in Seattle?[/quote]

    No it was at Miller Park. You aer right about home and away being nameless.[/quote]
    TORRE on a Dodger jersey would look good, next up would be a Pirates jersey. If I could photoshop, I would fix up a Pirates jersey with TORRE # 6 on the back..hint hint..nudge ;-)[/quote]

    Cardinal fans wonder what all the Torre fuss is about.[/quote]

    AMEN!!!!![/quote]

    Mets fans and Braves fans (in fact anyone but a Yankees fan) wonder what all the fuss is about.

    [quote comment=”163435″][quote comment=”163433″][quote comment=”163369″][quote comment=”163363″][quote comment=”163359″][quote comment=”163358″][quote comment=”163353″]With Joe Torre gone from the Yankees (best Yankee manager of my time) and reports of him going to the Dodgers (awesome!), this could mark the first time that we’ll see the TORRE name on a jersey in twelve years. All power to ya Joe.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t it have been on the back of the Yankees road uni’s? Anyway here is a shot of him during the All Star game in link.[/quote]
    No the Yankees are nameless on both home|away jerseys. Was that all star game in Seattle?[/quote]

    No it was at Miller Park. You aer right about home and away being nameless.[/quote]
    TORRE on a Dodger jersey would look good, next up would be a Pirates jersey. If I could photoshop, I would fix up a Pirates jersey with TORRE # 6 on the back..hint hint..nudge ;-)[/quote]

    Cardinal fans wonder what all the Torre fuss is about.[/quote]

    AMEN!!!!![/quote]

    didnt torre take 6 by default because 9 was retired in new york? he is a career 9 guy and would anticipate he would continue to wear that.

    [quote comment=”163435″][quote comment=”163433″][quote comment=”163369″][quote comment=”163363″][quote comment=”163359″][quote comment=”163358″][quote comment=”163353″]With Joe Torre gone from the Yankees (best Yankee manager of my time) and reports of him going to the Dodgers (awesome!), this could mark the first time that we’ll see the TORRE name on a jersey in twelve years. All power to ya Joe.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t it have been on the back of the Yankees road uni’s? Anyway here is a shot of him during the All Star game in link.[/quote]
    No the Yankees are nameless on both home|away jerseys. Was that all star game in Seattle?[/quote]

    No it was at Miller Park. You aer right about home and away being nameless.[/quote]
    TORRE on a Dodger jersey would look good, next up would be a Pirates jersey. If I could photoshop, I would fix up a Pirates jersey with TORRE # 6 on the back..hint hint..nudge ;-)[/quote]

    Cardinal fans wonder what all the Torre fuss is about.[/quote]

    AMEN!!!!![/quote]

    This just in, Red Sox win the series. Don’t bother trying to find it on ESPN.

    [quote comment=”163443″][quote comment=”163435″][quote comment=”163433″][quote comment=”163369″][quote comment=”163363″][quote comment=”163359″][quote comment=”163358″][quote comment=”163353″]With Joe Torre gone from the Yankees (best Yankee manager of my time) and reports of him going to the Dodgers (awesome!), this could mark the first time that we’ll see the TORRE name on a jersey in twelve years. All power to ya Joe.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t it have been on the back of the Yankees road uni’s? Anyway here is a shot of him during the All Star game in link.[/quote]
    No the Yankees are nameless on both home|away jerseys. Was that all star game in Seattle?[/quote]

    No it was at Miller Park. You aer right about home and away being nameless.[/quote]
    TORRE on a Dodger jersey would look good, next up would be a Pirates jersey. If I could photoshop, I would fix up a Pirates jersey with TORRE # 6 on the back..hint hint..nudge ;-)[/quote]

    Cardinal fans wonder what all the Torre fuss is about.[/quote]

    AMEN!!!!![/quote]

    didnt torre take 6 by default because 9 was retired in new york? he is a career 9 guy and would anticipate he would continue to wear that.[/quote]

    While I believe it is true that he wore 9 with the Cardinals, as both a player and manager, IIRC he wore 15 when he played for the Braves, which was most of his career. So not really a “career 9 guy.” Somebody will correct me if I’m wrong about that.

    [quote comment=”163258″]The linkI’m posting on Tom Dempsey, I promise. It shows his foot and hand on the record-setting kick against the Detroit Lions[/quote]
    Dig those pre-black Lions unis.

    [quote comment=”163448″][quote comment=”163435″][quote comment=”163433″][quote comment=”163369″][quote comment=”163363″][quote comment=”163359″][quote comment=”163358″][quote comment=”163353″]With Joe Torre gone from the Yankees (best Yankee manager of my time) and reports of him going to the Dodgers (awesome!), this could mark the first time that we’ll see the TORRE name on a jersey in twelve years. All power to ya Joe.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t it have been on the back of the Yankees road uni’s? Anyway here is a shot of him during the All Star game in link.[/quote]
    No the Yankees are nameless on both home|away jerseys. Was that all star game in Seattle?[/quote]

    No it was at Miller Park. You aer right about home and away being nameless.[/quote]
    TORRE on a Dodger jersey would look good, next up would be a Pirates jersey. If I could photoshop, I would fix up a Pirates jersey with TORRE # 6 on the back..hint hint..nudge ;-)[/quote]

    Cardinal fans wonder what all the Torre fuss is about.[/quote]

    AMEN!!!!![/quote]

    This just in, Red Sox win the series. Don’t bother trying to find it on ESPN.[/quote]

    A Red Sox fan complaining about insufficient media attention? That’s beyond rich.

    Brandon Jacobs patch fell off his jersey in the second half because it was never put on. Jacobs changed his jersey at the half as did much of the players in that game.

    201st! (I’m risking a ban for that, I know…)

    [quote comment=”163471″]Brandon Jacobs patch fell off his jersey in the second half because it was never put on. Jacobs changed his jersey at the half as did much of the players in that game.[/quote]

    D’oh! Can’t believe no one else suggested that. It was sloppy as all get-out during that game.

    [quote comment=”163344″][quote comment=”163329″][quote comment=”163309″][quote comment=”163291″][quote comment=”163283″][quote comment=”163264″]Is anyone else highly disturbed by this line of MLB Hats called MLB Twisted?

    link

    It just seems so so wrong.[/quote]
    link to any KC fan.[/quote]
    Whats with putting every team in Oakland A’s colors?[/quote]

    Because green and yellow are a sweet combo. I’m in the minority here but just look at how great the Ducks uniforms are.[/quote]
    They are a good combo…but

    link= BAD
    link= GOOD!!![/quote]
    I like the ducks unis. The tread pattern is stupid, but outside of that I really like them. I wish they would wear the yellow pants and yellow top combo more.[/quote]

    Yeah, the Notre Dame throwbacks were pretty awful, minus those freakin’ awesome socks!

    [quote comment=”163278″][quote comment=”163276″][quote comment=”163265″]In reference to the Colorado little league problem, in Massachusetts no one wants to play for the Yankees, so the Class A affiliate of the Red Sox, the Lowell Spinners have found a link[/quote]
    That is hilarious! Favorite line: “Red Sox fans understand how devastating it can be for any child to be on a Yankees youth baseball team in New England”

    That got me thinking, how many of you played in a youth league that used MLB team names like that? I’d never even heard of that until I got older. All our team names were sponsors. I played for the “Local 4950” (Steel Workers Union)[/quote]

    At least when I was a kid, the youth leagues in Lafayette, IN did not use MLB team names, instead opting for local businesses. I remember playing for the likes of Arby’s, Camera Craftsmen, Deluxe Homes and Arni’s as a child![/quote]

    My little league used MLB names, but rarely did they make sense. I remember one year having Green shirts that looked like the A’s 70s green jerseys, and had Blue Jays written across the front. Our coach sent them back and asked for ones that made more sense. We got the mirror image in yellow with a green scripted Tigers.

    [quote comment=”163377″]Not uni, but logo related. Cool before and after logo site with commentary on each redesign. Few sports logos in there.
    link
    [/quote]

    Now THAT’S a helpful site. Very cool to see the old and new side-by-side so one can absorb the “feel” of one logo and the supposed improvements in the new.

    [quote comment=”163258″]The linkI’m posting on Tom Dempsey, I promise. It shows his foot and hand on the record-setting kick against the Detroit Lions[/quote]

    Anyone notice that Joe Scarpati’s pants stripes are much thicker than Dempsey’s?

    [quote comment=”163495″]I’m still confused as to why it is such a big deal that LT isn’t wearing an American flag decal on his helmet.[/quote]
    Because the NFl is strict on the Uniform POlicy and he is the only one who seems to be getting away with it. The NFL polices everything else but this continues to go by.

    [quote comment=”163449″][quote comment=”163443″][quote comment=”163435″][quote comment=”163433″][quote comment=”163369″][quote comment=”163363″][quote comment=”163359″][quote comment=”163358″][quote comment=”163353″]With Joe Torre gone from the Yankees (best Yankee manager of my time) and reports of him going to the Dodgers (awesome!), this could mark the first time that we’ll see the TORRE name on a jersey in twelve years. All power to ya Joe.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t it have been on the back of the Yankees road uni’s? Anyway here is a shot of him during the All Star game in link.[/quote]
    No the Yankees are nameless on both home|away jerseys. Was that all star game in Seattle?[/quote]

    No it was at Miller Park. You aer right about home and away being nameless.[/quote]
    TORRE on a Dodger jersey would look good, next up would be a Pirates jersey. If I could photoshop, I would fix up a Pirates jersey with TORRE # 6 on the back..hint hint..nudge ;-)[/quote]

    Cardinal fans wonder what all the Torre fuss is about.[/quote]

    AMEN!!!!![/quote]

    didnt torre take 6 by default because 9 was retired in new york? he is a career 9 guy and would anticipate he would continue to wear that.[/quote]

    While I believe it is true that he wore 9 with the Cardinals, as both a player and manager, IIRC he wore 15 when he played for the Braves, which was most of his career. So not really a “career 9 guy.” Somebody will correct me if I’m wrong about that.[/quote]
    You are link sir. Just scroll to the bottom of the page for the number history.

    An aside: Has anyone else ever played for three different teams and later on managed each one, like Torre has?

    [quote comment=”163376″]170+ comments…I’m not sifting through them for something as silly as I’m going to say…

    Isn’t Highland High in Albuquerque where Beavis and Butt-Head went to high school?[/quote]

    Yes

    [quote comment=”163130″]I think the Utah Grizzlies took the pink thing link for their home opener.[/quote]
    I was at this game. The ice looked awesome when the Zamboni finished. Plus the won in a shootout.

    [quote comment=”163276″][quote comment=”163265″]In reference to the Colorado little league problem, in Massachusetts no one wants to play for the Yankees, so the Class A affiliate of the Red Sox, the Lowell Spinners have found a link[/quote]
    That is hilarious! Favorite line: “Red Sox fans understand how devastating it can be for any child to be on a Yankees youth baseball team in New England”

    That got me thinking, how many of you played in a youth league that used MLB team names like that? I’d never even heard of that until I got older. All our team names were sponsors. I played for the “Local 4950” (Steel Workers Union)[/quote]

    I played on the:
    Twins (light blue t-shirts)
    Royals (green t-shirts for some reason)
    Pirates (yellow!)
    Giants (orange)
    and Cubs (red shirts? what the hell …)

    [quote comment=”163493″][quote comment=”163377″]Not uni, but logo related. Cool before and after logo site with commentary on each redesign. Few sports logos in there.
    link
    [/quote]

    Now THAT’S a helpful site. Very cool to see the old and new side-by-side so one can absorb the “feel” of one logo and the supposed improvements in the new.[/quote]

    Thanks for the link. Great site.

    All Atlanta Public Schools do the name on the socks thing too. I’m not sure if I can find any pictures, but my high school, The Grady Grey Knights, just switched from doing that to NFL style socks. You cna see both styles in this gallery-. Before we switched we had those socks in maroon with white letters, white with maroon, and grey with maroon for our three jerseys
    link
    But otherwise, Mays has a yellow raiders written on their light blue socks, douglass has astros in yellow on their black socks

    [quote comment=”163244″]Dale Jr made his Hendrick Motorsports debut at the Atlanta test session yesterday in a throwback link.

    And if you link, he has a new link.

    All Day I Dream About Stockcars???[/quote]

    Holy freaking crap thats gigantic. That would be about the size for a jersey patch on that huge jason taylor thing in london…apparently dale jr and adidas want his competition to know who his sponsor is in their rear view mirror….now only if they put it backwards for them

    it might already have been mentioned, i tried screening the comments, but i might’ve missed it. regarding the officials in the photo concerning differing stripe patterns, i notice that they both are wearing white hats. if i’m not mistaken, isn’t t usually only the referee that wears the white hat and the remaining officials wear black ones? or was this instituted after the picture was taken?

    any word on the subject would be great

    [quote comment=”163554″]it might already have been mentioned, i tried screening the comments, but i might’ve missed it. regarding the officials in the photo concerning differing stripe patterns, i notice that they both are wearing white hats. if i’m not mistaken, isn’t t usually only the referee that wears the white hat and the remaining officials wear black ones? or was this instituted after the picture was taken?

    any word on the subject would be great[/quote]

    For quite some time, NFL referees wore black caps while the other officials wore white, even though it was the opposite in college. I don’t remember when this began or ended; I started watching football avidly (and noticing uni-related trivia) around 1983 and this is how it was then, in both the NFL and the USFL. It may have changed in the early ’90s.

    I remember an old NFL films show on Super Bowl I that mentioned how Len Dawson’s huddle style was so unique, and photogenic, especially when viewed in profile.

    [quote comment=”163558″]A-Rod would look the best in a Giants uniform. any takers?[/quote]
    That’s just what they need. 2 guys (the other being Zito) sucking up about 45-50 million a year, not to mention that they just got rid of an overpaid prima-donna in Bonds. No, what the Giants need is to bring up some young guys and maybe sign a few middle of the pay-scale free agents. Now if they could get Torii Hunter…

    [quote comment=”163567″][quote comment=”163558″]A-Rod would look the best in a Giants uniform. any takers?[/quote]
    That’s just what they need. 2 guys (the other being Zito) sucking up about 45-50 million a year, not to mention that they just got rid of an overpaid prima-donna in Bonds. No, what the Giants need is to bring up some young guys and maybe sign a few middle of the pay-scale free agents. Now if they could get Torii Hunter…[/quote]
    ..middle of the pay-scale free agents? What do you think they have now? besides 25.

    I know I’m way late and way redundant on the huddle thing, but I thought I’d link to a picture from last Friday to illustrate link.

    Eagle-eyed Uni Watchers might recognize the qb’s undershirt, as well.

    [quote comment=”163572″]whomever a rod does sign with better reserve this uni #:

    24+1[/quote]

    does that mean the rest of the Yankees should have been wearing something like “we’d be golfing right now if not for A-Rod” in the playoffs? I don’t know how to state that numerically, though, since the Yankees don’t have words on jerseys …

    I saw it again this weekend. Randy Moss is wearing a Raiders do-rag. No idea how to get screen shots but I saw it when they were showing him on the sideline in the second half.

    [quote comment=”163570″][quote comment=”163567″][quote comment=”163558″]A-Rod would look the best in a Giants uniform. any takers?[/quote]
    That’s just what they need. 2 guys (the other being Zito) sucking up about 45-50 million a year, not to mention that they just got rid of an overpaid prima-donna in Bonds. No, what the Giants need is to bring up some young guys and maybe sign a few middle of the pay-scale free agents. Now if they could get Torii Hunter…[/quote]
    ..middle of the pay-scale free agents? What do you think they have now? besides 25.[/quote]
    I’m talking about free agents that aren’t members of the AARP.

    [quote comment=”163596″][quote comment=”163570″][quote comment=”163567″][quote comment=”163558″]A-Rod would look the best in a Giants uniform. any takers?[/quote]
    That’s just what they need. 2 guys (the other being Zito) sucking up about 45-50 million a year, not to mention that they just got rid of an overpaid prima-donna in Bonds. No, what the Giants need is to bring up some young guys and maybe sign a few middle of the pay-scale free agents. Now if they could get Torii Hunter…[/quote]
    ..middle of the pay-scale free agents? What do you think they have now? besides 25.[/quote]
    I’m talking about free agents that aren’t members of the AARP.[/quote]
    Is that a retirement home?

    The official being honored is #11 Vince Jacob who passed away in October 1982. Pictured in that photo is Dale Halmer wearing the memorial patch.

    The #11 armband worn by the official in the Chargers-Dolphins game was in honor of John McDonough, an original AFL referee who worked Super Bowl IV and also the Dolphins-Chiefs Christmas Day playoff which is still the longest game in NFL history.

    [quote comment=”163591″]I know I’m way late and way redundant on the huddle thing, but I thought I’d link to a picture from last Friday to illustrate link.

    Eagle-eyed Uni Watchers might recognize the qb’s undershirt, as well.[/quote]
    QB and one other guy with blue socks, one guy with white socks and several with none. Anyone familiar with the term “uniform”?

    [quote comment=”163593″][quote comment=”163572″]whomever a rod does sign with better reserve this uni #:

    24+1[/quote]

    does that mean the rest of the Yankees should have been wearing something like “we’d be golfing right now if not for A-Rod” in the playoffs? I don’t know how to state that numerically, though, since the Yankees don’t have words on jerseys …[/quote]

    “yankees” (home) and “new york” (away) aren’t words? OH…wait…you meant nameplates

    i never stated nor implied a-god wasn’t a great playa…3 MVP’s in 5 years (most likely) proves he’s good…

    perhaps i should have said his new number should be:

    “0” (as in # of rings he has) or
    “$” (not really a number of course)

    /difference between me-rod and jordan or gretzky was that those two could pull the entire team on their shoulders and actually WIN in the second season
    //sorry for the rant

    [quote comment=”163307″]Thanks to Jeff Barak for that useful link.

    And in case anyone is curious, every number has been worn by someone at some point, but link link link have been worn by only one player.[/quote]
    Martin Straka is the only player to wear number 82, according to that website.

    [quote comment=”163118″]Paul,
    Rentzel’s facemask was made by Marietta a company based in Texas, it is also the helmet company that became MaxPro in the early 70’s. Sayers mask was made by Wilson who were based in Chicago and made most of the helmets for the Bears. Supposedly Halas had business affiliations with Wilson.[/quote]

    Hals apparently alsio had an interest in a sporting goods company in Chicago at that time. I have three jerseys from the now-defunct College Allstar Game that ended in 1975.

    The College Allstar jerseys from the 1940’s through 1960’s have a Halas Sporting Goods store tag sewn next to the King O’Shea or Wilson manufacturers tags.

    That was common for some suppliers up through the late 1970’s – depending on the suppliers for certain teams.

    [quote comment=”163192″]Not so crazy about the lucite facemask “look”, but I love the old Rams’ helmets. The varying length of the horns and not so quite roundness of their shape gives away the fact these helmets were hand painted.

    Ahhh…the charm of the old days of the NFL…[/quote]

    I went to a high school playoff game in 1978 with a team with 4-5 starters still wearing lucite facemasks!

    The Rockies playoff run was the most incredible in Sept.-Oct. baseball history until the Red Sox cut the hot streak like a buzz saw. Such luck has to involve uni superstition, and this one did.

    For 2007 the Rockies had 5 regular jerseys, more than any other MLB club. Includes a white jersey and white vest (home only), black vest and purple jersey (home or road) and grey jersey (road only). They always wore white pants and all black cap at home, and grey pants with black cap with purple bill on the road.

    All season the Rockies would generally wear the same jersey the next day if they won and change jerseys the next game if they lost. Exception if they were in white and went on the road the next day for example. When they won 10 in a row on the 21 of 22 streak, they started in white vests, switched to grey on the road. The one loss of 22 was in white vests, so they wore black vests the next day. This was suddenly the “lucky jersey” they wore for the last two regular season games, the one game playoff with San Diego, the three game Phillies NLDS sweep and game one of the NLCS. Arizona tried to psych the Rockies by wearing their blacks for game two. Apparently by rule, the road team must wear a different color, so the Rockies wore grey that game. This didn’t stop the streak, then the Rocks went right back to black vests at home for games 3 and 4.

    Entering the World Series, they clearly believed the black vest was the hot jersey. Obviously game 1 cooled off the Rox despite the black. They switched to grey jerseys the next night. In game three it was back to black (another blowout) and finally back to white for game 4. No World Series luck in any of those.

    Interestingly, the Rockies two wins in Fenway in June ’07 were performed in purple jerseys (I know Paul Lucas blood will boil if he reads this). The purple was mothballed well before the hot streak, but due to the earlier season Boston luck I thought they might have tried the purple again in the World Series. I mean, why not? They didn’t beat Boston in any color except purple this year!

    [quote comment=”163270″]Great to see the Broncos lose last night wearing those blue on blue monstrosities, especially in dramatic fashion! Now maybe they’ll retire the monochrome look for good.

    No offense to any Denver fans – your team usually looks much better. And if they’d adopt the orange alts full time, they’d look fantastic.[/quote]
    Glad to see someone else feels this way. I love the Orange Bronco alts too, but the Broncos lost twice in incredible late collapses wearing them. Shananhan thinks they’re bad luck and I doubt we’ll see them again as long as he is coach.

    They’ve adopted a policy of wearing the solid blue for home night games without regard to wins or losses.

    It should be known that the man wearing thng the suit jacket from south africa is actually ripping off the hives on their new album. they go around in the suits all year on tour and put on quite a show. not promoting the band, just giving credit where its due. They always have a uniform, so maybe they could get written on here too?

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