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Stanford and San Jose State are both wearing “BW” memorial decals in honor of Bill Walsh this year. Coincidentally, they played each other yesterday, marking perhaps the first time that two teams played each other wearing the same memorial decal in a non-league-wide memorial situation.

(The San Jose State “BW” decal is kind of hard to see in this pic, so I circled it in yellow. It’s right to the left of the number on the back of the helmet. If you find a better view, you know what to do.) —Vince

 
  
 
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    I was watching the FSU game last night and I noticed that they’re still wearing a traditional mesh style jersey with screened on name and numbers unlike every other “Nike” school that has switched to the new stretch fit microfiber with sewn on name and numbers like Michigan, Oklahoma, LSU, and Florida. Are there any other “Nike” schools still sporting this look?

    [quote comment=”143079″]I was watching the FSU game last night and I noticed that they’re still wearing a traditional mesh style jersey with screened on name and numbers unlike every other “Nike” school that has switched to the new stretch fit microfiber with sewn on name and numbers like Michigan, Oklahoma, LSU, and Florida. Are there any other “Nike” schools still sporting this look?[/quote]

    link still screens on the numbers and the ‘Texas’ wordmark across the chest. I think I noticed yesterday though that they have a sewn on nameplate though. Can’t find a good pic of the back of the jersey.

    [quote comment=”143094″][quote comment=”143079″]I was watching the FSU game last night and I noticed that they’re still wearing a traditional mesh style jersey with screened on name and numbers unlike every other “Nike” school that has switched to the new stretch fit microfiber with sewn on name and numbers like Michigan, Oklahoma, LSU, and Florida. Are there any other “Nike” schools still sporting this look?[/quote]

    link still screens on the numbers and the ‘Texas’ wordmark across the chest. I think I noticed yesterday though that they have a sewn on nameplate though. Can’t find a good pic of the back of the jersey.[/quote]

    Florida State screen prints onto a nameplate but as I was watching the FSU/Colorado game, I discovered that I really hate the link look in college football. Colorado link with them, especially if you’re a white guy wearing long sleeves. The punter looked terrible.

    Did anybody get a screencap of the CU fan giving the finger on ESPN in (i think) the second quarter? Live TV is great.
    Speaking of CU, their blackout looked very cool last night. I think that the only teams that should be allowed to do a blackout are the ones that have black as a primary color, and also have black uniforms available.

    What does the “BW” stand for in each case?

    The late Bill Walsh, former Stanford and 49ers coach and SJSU grad.

    [quote comment=”143096″]What does the “BW” stand for in each case?[/quote]
    Think about it…BW…in memory of Bill Walsh…it isn’t rocket science man

    Think about it…BW…in memory of Bill Walsh…it isn’t rocket science man

    Everyone knows BW coached the Cardinal, not everyone knows he went to San Jose St.

    [quote comment=”143107″]

    Think about it…BW…in memory of Bill Walsh…it isn’t rocket science man

    Everyone knows BW coached the Cardinal, not everyone knows he went to San Jose St.[/quote]

    Right-o. Let’s play nice.

    A quote from an espn.com article about the new reebok jerseys- Taking note of failures in other sports when redesigns came about, Reebok worked with the NHL, the players and coaches on the new look. Well, I think it’s safe to say that plan didn’t work.

    Watched the Orioles/Blue Jays game on MASN yesterday and found something interesting. While the Jays’ position players and coaches wore the regular Blue Jays cap, every pitcher I saw in the game wore their link. Does anyone know if this is a regular occurrence?

    [quote comment=”143097″][quote comment=”143094″][quote comment=”143079″]I was watching the FSU game last night and I noticed that they’re still wearing a traditional mesh style jersey with screened on name and numbers unlike every other “Nike” school that has switched to the new stretch fit microfiber with sewn on name and numbers like Michigan, Oklahoma, LSU, and Florida. Are there any other “Nike” schools still sporting this look?[/quote]

    link still screens on the numbers and the ‘Texas’ wordmark across the chest. I think I noticed yesterday though that they have a sewn on nameplate though. Can’t find a good pic of the back of the jersey.[/quote]

    Florida State screen prints onto a nameplate but as I was watching the FSU/Colorado game, I discovered that I really hate the link look in college football. Colorado link with them, especially if you’re a white guy wearing long sleeves. The punter looked terrible.[/quote]
    Short socks look especially bad on every player who has legs. Elmer Layden was right with his NFL policy. NCAA should get on board.

    To preempt that asinine list, if ESPN and others insist on calling I-AA I-AA, and mock that “Championship Subsivision” crap, we are intitled to as well.

    It’s I-A and I-AA. End of discussion.

    Are the Steelers uniform they have on today a throwback or an alternate? I could see going to the yellow helmets if they were playing another team with black helmets, but those things look like they got a shipment meant for Grenn Bay and decided to make do. It looks jarring to me.

    [quote comment=”143132″]Are the Steelers uniform they have on today a throwback or an alternate? I could see going to the yellow helmets if they were playing another team with black helmets, but those things look like they got a shipment meant for Grenn Bay and decided to make do. It looks jarring to me.[/quote]

    75th Anniversary throwback, inspired by the uni scheme between 1947-1962. They’re wearing them today and again on November 5th on MNF against the Ravens.

    The Steelers’ uniforms are 1960s throwbacks. And has anyone seen a Steeler wearing the new Captain’s “C” patch?

    Hey guy, that short sock look with white shoes makes a team look mighty fast. I hate when FSU wears LONG socks. You don’t wear long socks in Florida, its to hot. Side note, I think FSU has made their spear emblem bigger this year.

    1) woulda been cool if all the Walsh teams (incl the BENGALS, he had big input there) woulda worn the same BW sticker.

    2) speaking of Niners, Nolan with the tie (under the RBK jacket) on the sideline.

    3) This game does not feel like a Niners win.

    Random uniform research question: has any team reissued a number to a player with the same last name?

    Example: if Warren Sapp were to leave the Oakland Raiders, and then they sign someone named John Sapp, and he wore 99

    [quote comment=”143100″]
    Speaking of CU, their blackout looked very cool last night. I think that the only teams that should be allowed to do a blackout are the ones that have black as a primary color, and also have black uniforms available.[/quote]

    Interesting note: CU’s “official” colors are silver and gold. Although they’ve generally used black for contrast over the years, there was a period in the 80s where they used sky blue.

    I was watching the FSU game last night and I noticed that they’re still wearing a traditional mesh style jersey with screened on name and numbers unlike every other “Nike” school that has switched to the new stretch fit microfiber with sewn on name and numbers like Michigan, Oklahoma, LSU, and Florida. Are there any other “Nike” schools still sporting this look?

    link still screens on the numbers and the ‘Texas’ wordmark across the chest. I think I noticed yesterday though that they have a sewn on nameplate though. Can’t find a good pic of the back of the jersey.

    link screens the numbers and wordmarks as well, and I think the names are screened onto a nameplate. ISU is screened on as well, with link I guess we just like being old school around here.

    Watching the Niners game- the Rams have a guy (Steven Jackson) who has hair hanging way outta his helmet and down his back, much like the Steelers guy.

    Shouldn’t there be a rule against that- not for aesthetics, but for safety? If a player (accidentally) grabs a bunch of that, or it gets caught on a helmet or what have you- wouldn’t that be a safety hazard- snapping the neck back, besides being REALLY painful?

    Watching the Niners game- the Rams have a guy (Steven Jackson) who has hair hanging way outta his helmet and down his back, much like the Steelers guy.

    Shouldn’t there be a rule against that- not for aesthetics, but for safety? If a player (accidentally) grabs a bunch of that, or it gets caught on a helmet or what have you- wouldn’t that be a safety hazard- snapping the neck back, besides being REALLY painful?

    The NFL’s position is “You’re the one who chose to grow your hair out, so you have to live with any football-related consequences.”

    [quote comment=”143078″]thumbs up to the coyotes for going to the simple/plain/low-key route on their new sweaters.[/quote]

    The NFL’s position is “You’re the one who chose to grow your hair out, so you have to live with any football-related consequences.”

    They bought the ticket, they knew what they were getting into. I say, “Let ’em crash.”

    Tom Coughlin wearing FDNY hat on Giants sideline today in the ongoing NY area rememberance of 9/11…

    [quote comment=”143155″]

    Watching the Niners game- the Rams have a guy (Steven Jackson) who has hair hanging way outta his helmet and down his back, much like the Steelers guy.

    Shouldn’t there be a rule against that- not for aesthetics, but for safety? If a player (accidentally) grabs a bunch of that, or it gets caught on a helmet or what have you- wouldn’t that be a safety hazard- snapping the neck back, besides being REALLY painful?

    The NFL’s position is “You’re the one who chose to grow your hair out, so you have to live with any football-related consequences.”[/quote]
    Right, I remember last season when Polamalu intercepted a pass and was tackled by the hair. NO penalty.

    [quote comment=”143155″]

    Watching the Niners game- the Rams have a guy (Steven Jackson) who has hair hanging way outta his helmet and down his back, much like the Steelers guy.

    Shouldn’t there be a rule against that- not for aesthetics, but for safety? If a player (accidentally) grabs a bunch of that, or it gets caught on a helmet or what have you- wouldn’t that be a safety hazard- snapping the neck back, besides being REALLY painful?

    The NFL’s position is “You’re the one who chose to grow your hair out, so you have to live with any football-related consequences.”[/quote]

    Exactly, beginning with Ricky Williams and his dreads a few years ago.

    In response to the number being re-issued to a player with the same last name:

    Chad Scott wore 30 during his tenure with the Steelers. A year or two after he was cut, the Steelers signed another player whose name was Chad Scott. He was issued 30 and Bill Cowher commented that they were trying to make it easier on his memory.

    Tackling by the hair isn’t and shouldn’t be a penalty because a player’s hair is part of the uniform.

    link

    There are two pictures in this gallery of kids wearing new Coyote sweaters with CCM and Koho tags… does Reebok license out for kids’ jerseys?
    Like the font and numbers by the way…

    ugly Norfolk State uniforms against Rutgers and why are they both wearing solid colors?

    I don’t know about Football, but in soccer, as long as the colors contrast enough, the officials don’t make a big deal about it. The liklihood of a quarterback confusing red and yellow jerseys is pretty small, so I doubt too many people cared. When I was a goalkeeper, I had been asked to change shirts before, so officials do keep an eye on that.

    There are two pictures in this gallery of kids wearing new Coyote sweaters with CCM and Koho tags… does Reebok license out for kids’ jerseys?
    Like the font and numbers by the way…

    I’m sure they do, but one thing to keep in mind is that CCM is owned by Rbk, and I believe that Koho is as well, making your comment still interesting, but from a corporate competitiveness view, a non issue.

    and, chances are that those kids are wearing jerseys that their parents bought them 2 or 3 years ago, when Koho and CCM were still jersey suppliers.

    [quote comment=”143149″]

    I was watching the FSU game last night and I noticed that they’re still wearing a traditional mesh style jersey with screened on name and numbers unlike every other “Nike” school that has switched to the new stretch fit microfiber with sewn on name and numbers like Michigan, Oklahoma, LSU, and Florida. Are there any other “Nike” schools still sporting this look?

    link still screens on the numbers and the ‘Texas’ wordmark across the chest. I think I noticed yesterday though that they have a sewn on nameplate though. Can’t find a good pic of the back of the jersey.

    link screens the numbers and wordmarks as well, and I think the names are screened onto a nameplate. ISU is screened on as well, with link I guess we just like being old school around here.[/quote]

    The “Iowa State” on the regular ISU uniforms is sewn on, but it’s hard to notice because it’s written so small. The throwbacks worn yesterday were link “Iowa State”, because that’s how the uniforms were in the 1977 season.

    The Coyotes unis are amazing the second best redesign behind Bruins. Are the stripes on the breezers new this year? Breezer stripes and or a contrasting color breezer (Blackhawks, Canadians, Rangers) really make the uniform breaking up the solid colors of matching helmet, jersey, breezers and socks

    [quote comment=”143146″]Random uniform research question: has any team reissued a number to a player with the same last name?

    Example: if Warren Sapp were to leave the Oakland Raiders, and then they sign someone named John Sapp, and he wore 99[/quote]

    The Reds have done it with Pete Rose, Jr. and Ken Griffey, Jr.

    Wow! Those Coyotes jerseys are absolutely beautiful! They make me proud to be from Arizona. I’ve never followed the Coyotes, but I may this year based simply on the quality of those jerseys.

    Best looking new jerseys in the entire league. Yes, that’s right, I said it–the best.

    For those who said the I-35W patch on the University of Minnesota Gophers jerseys was a symbol of ‘Gopher Nation’ and made some poor comments about it take a look.

    “Uni Watch mentioned Minnesota’s new helmet logo but didn’t realize the Gophers had also added an I-35W sleeve patch (in memory of those killed in last month’s bridge collapse) and switched from black shoes to white.”

    link

    “Worth noting: Minnesota players will wear a 35W patch on their uniforms to honor victims of the I-35W bridge collapse. The team also wears the initials “FK” in tribute to former compliance director Frank Kara, who died of cancer last month.”

    link

    For those who said the I-35W patch on the University of Minnesota Gophers jerseys was a symbol of ‘Gopher Nation’ and made some poor comments about it take a look.

    “Uni Watch mentioned Minnesota’s new helmet logo but didn’t realize the Gophers had also added an I-35W sleeve patch (in memory of those killed in last month’s bridge collapse) and switched from black shoes to white.”

    link

    “Worth noting: Minnesota players will wear a 35W patch on their uniforms to honor victims of the I-35W bridge collapse. The team also wears the initials “FK” in tribute to former compliance director Frank Kara, who died of cancer last month.”

    link

    We weren’t discussing the patch, but thanks for pointing it out for me, I had missed that. We were talking about the Gopher Nation decals on the backs of the helmets, which I incorrectly said was for I-35W.

    link

    There are two pictures in this gallery of kids wearing new Coyote sweaters with CCM and Koho tags… does Reebok license out for kids’ jerseys?
    Like the font and numbers by the way…

    Those are last season’s jerseys. The new edge jerseys moved the jersey patch from the right sleeve to the left sleeve.

    I don’t know this was posted here already, but just in case you listen to ESPN Radio instead of watch it – check out the video of the bedazzled Mike Vrabel jersey worn by Greenberg this week:

    link

    I don’t know if it has been mentioned before, but Mike Martz is wearing the headset with ear pieces on both sides of his head today.

    [quote comment=”143197″]link

    There are two pictures in this gallery of kids wearing new Coyote sweaters with CCM and Koho tags… does Reebok license out for kids’ jerseys?
    Like the font and numbers by the way…

    Those are last season’s jerseys. The new edge jerseys moved the jersey patch from the right sleeve to the left sleeve.[/quote]

    Or you could say those are last years because the RBK Edge doesn’t have stripes at the hemline.

    [quote comment=”143169″]In response to the number being re-issued to a player with the same last name:

    Chad Scott wore 30 during his tenure with the Steelers. A year or two after he was cut, the Steelers signed another player whose name was Chad Scott. He was issued 30 and Bill Cowher commented that they were trying to make it easier on his memory.[/quote]
    Which reminds me: in the summer of 1996, the Washington Bullets traded Rasheed Wallace, #30, to Portland. That same summer, the Bullets signed an undrafted rookie forward by the name of Ben Wallace, who also wore #30.

    (trying to close the unclosed italics tag here)

    I was watching Manchester City vs Aston Villa this morning and noticed that the back of Luke Moore’s jersey read “Moore L.”: link

    Does anyone know why he doesn’t wear “L. Moore” or simply “Moore” since there’s no other Moore on the Aston Villa squad?

    I was watching the FSU game last night and I noticed that they’re still wearing a traditional mesh style jersey with screened on name and numbers unlike every other “Nike” school that has switched to the new stretch fit microfiber with sewn on name and numbers like Michigan, Oklahoma, LSU, and Florida. Are there any other “Nike” schools still sporting this look?
    Texas still screens on the numbers and the ‘Texas’ wordmark across the chest. I think I noticed yesterday though that they have a sewn on nameplate though. Can’t find a good pic of the back of the jersey.

    Iowa screens the numbers and wordmarks as well, and I think the names are screened onto a nameplate. ISU is screened on as well, with no names on the back. I guess we just like being old school around here.

    The “Iowa State” on the regular ISU uniforms is sewn on, but it’s hard to notice because it’s written so small. The throwbacks worn yesterday were screen printed “Iowa State”, because that’s how the uniforms were in the 1977 season.

    I’ve got to say (and it pains me to complement anything from that other Iowa school), but those ISU uniforms are a huge improvement over their usual fare and that helmet is a work of art. Period.

    [quote comment=”143173″]Tackling by the hair isn’t and shouldn’t be a penalty because a player’s hair is part of the uniform.[/quote]

    By that logic, shouldn’t tackling by the facemask and back of the shoulder pads (horsecollar tackle) be legal too?

    I understand your point, but hair isn’t part of the “uniform.” If a player wants to wear long hair, let ’em deal with the pain of getting it pulled. Keep in mind: if hair was required, link would never be allowed to play another NFL game.

    This white at home has got to stop in the NFL, i understand for teams in Florida or hot weather. But San Diego last week, and now Chicago this week. Im a bears fan and they’ve done this once each of the past 2 years, but both times it was against Detroit for some reason. Now they are doing it against KC. I dont mind the white bears jersey, but its annoying and the home navy blue jerseys look 10x better

    The Steelers will not be wearing the “C” patch. On all home/away jerseys they have the 75th Anniversary Patch on the right side, and the smaller Steeler logo on the left side of the jersey. The Throwback jersey only has the 75th patch. No need for a classy franchise like the Steelers to go to that patch. This isn’t European hockey….It’s FOOTBALL!

    Two things from NY this Sunday…

    Tom Coughlin is wearing FDNY cap.

    Jets kicker Nugent is wearing captain’s “c”

    By that logic, shouldn’t tackling by the facemask and back of the shoulder pads (horsecollar tackle) be legal too?

    Under your logic, any kind of tackling (jersey grabbing, shoestring) would be illegal, since those are all part of the uniform. Face masks are required, dread locks are optional.

    [quote comment=”143197″]http://coyotes.nhl.c…

    There are two pictures in this gallery of kids wearing new Coyote sweaters with CCM and Koho tags… does Reebok license out for kids’ jerseys?
    Like the font and numbers by the way…

    Those are last season’s jerseys. The new edge jerseys moved the jersey patch from the right sleeve to the left sleeve.[/quote]
    one last try…

    [quote comment=”143135″]The Steelers’ uniforms are 1960s throwbacks. And has anyone seen a Steeler wearing the new Captain’s “C” patch?[/quote]

    The Steelers have not sported the captins’s “C” in either of their first two games (last week in the regular jerseys, and this week in the throwback jerseys).

    [quote comment=”143178″]ugly Norfolk State uniforms against Rutgers and why are they both wearing solid colors?

    I don’t know about Football, but in soccer, as long as the colors contrast enough, the officials don’t make a big deal about it.[/quote]The major exception in soccer is at FIFA-sanctioned tournaments, where the competition committee has one team wear dark and the other light (usually white) regardless of normal team colors. It’s for the benefit of counties without access to color TV (not much of an issue now) and production booths that use b/w monitors (still an issue, I think). Shorts and sock colors have to be contrasting too.

    An exception was made for the 2002 World Cup final – normally, either Germany or Brazil would have to have worn their “away” colors, but Germany wore its normal white shirts/black shorts/white socks, while Brazil wore their usual yellow shirts/blue shorts combo, but with blue socks instead of the usual white.

    As for Norfolk State, I figure their gold is their “light” uniform, much the same way many college hoops teams wear gold at home or away.

    [quote comment=”143206″][quote comment=”143169″]In response to the number being re-issued to a player with the same last name:

    Chad Scott wore 30 during his tenure with the Steelers. A year or two after he was cut, the Steelers signed another player whose name was Chad Scott. He was issued 30 and Bill Cowher commented that they were trying to make it easier on his memory.[/quote]
    Which reminds me: in the summer of 1996, the Washington Bullets traded Rasheed Wallace, #30, to Portland. That same summer, the Bullets signed an undrafted rookie forward by the name of Ben Wallace, who also wore #30.[/quote]

    I think I have heard a story that they actually used one of Rasheed’s old jerseys at the introductory presser.

    The Atlanta Braves had three Joneses in the lineup today (Andruw, Chipper, and September Call-Up Brandon). Naturally, all three have “Jones” on the back of their jersey.

    [quote comment=”143232″][quote comment=”143206″][quote comment=”143169″]In response to the number being re-issued to a player with the same last name:

    Chad Scott wore 30 during his tenure with the Steelers. A year or two after he was cut, the Steelers signed another player whose name was Chad Scott. He was issued 30 and Bill Cowher commented that they were trying to make it easier on his memory.[/quote]
    Which reminds me: in the summer of 1996, the Washington Bullets traded Rasheed Wallace, #30, to Portland. That same summer, the Bullets signed an undrafted rookie forward by the name of Ben Wallace, who also wore #30.[/quote]

    I think I have heard a story that they actually used one of Rasheed’s old jerseys at the introductory presser.[/quote]
    Mr. Lukas’s uniform column mentioned a scenario like this: both Jan and Jiri Hrdina occupied the Penguins’ #38 at one time.

    Well, the Bills wore their Kevin Everett tribute t-shirts under their uniforms today, damned if i can get a picture posted of it.

    My wife just made a rather interesting observation. “Did the Broncos change their helmet logo? It looks bigger.”

    The answer is no, but it appears they have applied the flaming horse logos lower on the helmets than in the past. The bulge in the Revolution helmets interferes with the logo, and it appears the Broncos equipment peopler decided to make them all the same position.

    [quote comment=”143229″]link[/quote]

    Bravo, Steelers!

    The awesome stripes on the socks almost distract one’s noticing the perspiration lines on the pants.

    [quote comment=”143234″]The Atlanta Braves had three Joneses in the lineup today (Andruw, Chipper, and September Call-Up Brandon). Naturally, all three have “Jones” on the back of their jersey.[/quote]
    Brandon Jones had “B Jones” on his. Chipper and Andruw only wear “Jones.”

    Also, the Steelers look awesome. The Coyotes look great, but what’s with the shoulder yoke??? Isn’t this the new NHL?? (note sarcasm, I think it looks great)

    There are two pictures in this gallery of kids wearing new Coyote sweaters with CCM and Koho tags… does Reebok license out for kids’ jerseys?
    Like the font and numbers by the way…

    Before Reebok started making Jerseys for NHL, CCM (owned by reebok anyway had a deal with the league to produce home and road jerseys. KOHO (owned by CCM) was to make all road and 3rd jerseys while CCM is suppose to make all home jerseys. It wasn’t until a year or two ago that Reebok took over the responsibility to produce all league jerseys

    did anyone else notice during the two point conversion today that ronald curry had a helmet on with the number 37 on it?

    like the steelers TBs a lot. too bad the niners have to go to pitt next week & get whacked. Sadly (for the Niners) Ben looks like Ben- not having a wreck or appendix out will do that for ya!

    Was listening to the 8th inning of the Mets game yesterday(Saturday). They were about to lose and the commentator said that Charlie? the Mets equipment manager said that they would not be wearing blue caps and pinstripes if they lost again Saturday. (They lost Friday and ended up losing Saturday in blue caps and pinstripes.) We will see if he is true to his word.

    [quote comment=”143259″]Was listening to the 8th inning of the Mets game yesterday(Saturday). They were about to lose and the commentator said that Charlie? the Mets equipment manager said that they would not be wearing blue caps and pinstripes if they lost again Saturday. (They lost Friday and ended up losing Saturday in blue caps and pinstripes.) We will see if he is true to his word.[/quote]

    He was. The Mets wore black today.

    Patriots wearing a black circle ’91’ helmet sticker.

    No idea why.

    Marquise Hill, the player who drowned.

    Was I seeing things or is Merriman wearing his flag dead center of his helmet?

    IIRC Paul said the Raiduhs weren’t wearing captain’s C’s. Today Asomugha and Sapp were wearing them.

    ‘Yotes unis look as good as possible with that darn much red.

    I noticed last week that Merriman is now wearing a Riddell chinstrap, he was wearing a Sportstar Gelcup model last season and in pre-season. I don’t know what prompted the change. Also am I the only one who thinks the Pat’s have missed a trick with Tom and Kyle Brady on the roster? How many hardcore fans would feel obliged to buy an updated “T. BRADY” jersey if they switched him to that and Kyle to “K.BRADY”? It worked for Kobe…..

    I don’t think a lot of fans will need help determining which Brady is Tom Brady.

    OK, Merriman’s flag isn’t centered, but it looks like the Chargers all have their flags high, over the helmet numbers, to get out of the way of the bolts.

    Not so much as a means of identifying Tom, but in the more cynical sense, squeezing a few more bucks from Pat’s fans. Also his top buckles on his chinstrap are still ridiculously high up.

    RE: Sunday Night Football opening.

    Faith————–great.
    Number of Spring logo shots (12)—–not great.

    [quote comment=”143137″]Hey guy, that short sock look with white shoes makes a team look mighty fast. I hate when FSU wears LONG socks. You don’t wear long socks in Florida, its to hot. Side note, I think FSU has made their spear emblem bigger this year.[/quote]

    Bro, I do it every day. I’m from South Florida and I’m never too hot in my high black soccer socks.

    [quote comment=”143211″]This white at home has got to stop in the NFL, i understand for teams in Florida or hot weather. But San Diego last week, and now Chicago this week. Im a bears fan and they’ve done this once each of the past 2 years, but both times it was against Detroit for some reason. Now they are doing it against KC. I dont mind the white bears jersey, but its annoying and the home navy blue jerseys look 10x better[/quote]
    San Diego wore the whites, hoping for hotter weather (and make Chicago wear the navy blues). Under Lovie Smith, Chicago has worn white at home because he wanted to take advantage of the normally warmer weather; in Chicago, even 80 degrees with about 45-50% humidity is pretty uncomfortable. Expect to see the navy blues at home next Sunday night against Dallas (they’re also very hard to pick out at night).

    [quote comment=”143160″]Buccaneers wearing white pants with white jersey…Looks SO much better than those hideous pewter pants. Then again, white pants almost always looks best with white jerseys in the NFL.[/quote]
    Dungy dug them too when he was the coach. Quote from the St. Pete times 8/23/97:

    COLOR SCHEME: The Bucs wore a different uniform combination for the fourth time in the preseason, with white jerseys and pewter pants. Bucs coach Tony Dungy said he preferred white jerseys and white pants earlier in the season, but at the Meet the Bucs Luncheon on Thursday, Dungy conceded he would say red jerseys and pewter pants because that’s what the Glazer family prefers.

    I think Edgerrin James once was tackled by his dreadlocks, so he cut them shorter the next game and has worn them shorter ever since.

    It’s ironic to see players do everything possible to make their jerseys tighter and harder to hold, yet have hair down the middle of their backs.

    I noticed today that Bill Belicheck has his initials on his cut off sweatshirts. I have never noticed that before.

    [quote comment=”143207″] (trying to close the unclosed italics tag here)

    I was watching Manchester City vs Aston Villa this morning and noticed that the back of Luke Moore’s jersey read “Moore L.”: link

    Does anyone know why he doesn’t wear “L. Moore” or simply “Moore” since there’s no other Moore on the Aston Villa squad?[/quote]

    thats aston villa and chelsea, get ur teams rite, especially when its the european yankees

    I noticed today that Bill Belicheck has his initials on his cut off sweatshirts. I have never noticed that before.

    It’s so the other homeless men don’t get their sweater confused with his.

    [quote comment=”143295″]I noticed today that Bill Belicheck has his initials on his cut off sweatshirts. I have never noticed that before.[/quote]

    Always been there as far as I can remember. Now he’s just resigned thru like 2013, so thats another 6 seasons after this one, of the AHM.

    I see 8 that are identifiable to me:

    28: Jersey, ball, both hands, right shoe
    20: left hand, jersey
    31: jersey

    [quote comment=”143296″][quote comment=”143207″] (trying to close the unclosed italics tag here)

    I was watching Manchester City vs Aston Villa this morning and noticed that the back of Luke Moore’s jersey read “Moore L.”: link

    Does anyone know why he doesn’t wear “L. Moore” or simply “Moore” since there’s no other Moore on the Aston Villa squad?[/quote]

    thats aston villa and chelsea, get ur teams rite, especially when its the european yankees[/quote]

    The pic may have been Chelsea, but today’s game was against Man. City. Tom used an old image to illustrate.

    [quote comment=”143311″]I see 8 that are identifiable to me:

    28: Jersey, ball, both hands, right shoe
    20: left hand, jersey
    31: jersey[/quote]

    I found 12. 20 also has both wristbands and pants and 31 has pants.

    [quote comment=”143311″]I see 8 that are identifiable to me:

    28: Jersey, ball, both hands, right shoe
    20: left hand, jersey
    31: jersey[/quote]

    I got 19:

    #28 (7): visor, jersey, ball, both hands, left leg, left shoe
    #31 (5): jersey (shoulder), jersey (tag), pants, glove, right shoe
    #20 (7): jersey, pants, both gloves, both wristbands, tongue of right shoe

    You could also list the band on #20’s right leg, and the ones on #31’s left shoe and right glove, but they’re really hard to make out (even though we all know what they are) – and there’s also the word “Nike” on #28’s visor.

    [quote comment=”143313″][quote comment=”143296″][quote comment=”143207″] (trying to close the unclosed italics tag here)

    I was watching Manchester City vs Aston Villa this morning and noticed that the back of Luke Moore’s jersey read “Moore L.”: link

    Does anyone know why he doesn’t wear “L. Moore” or simply “Moore” since there’s no other Moore on the Aston Villa squad?[/quote]

    thats aston villa and chelsea, get ur teams rite, especially when its the european yankees[/quote]

    The pic may have been Chelsea, but today’s game was against Man. City. Tom used an old image to illustrate.[/quote]Yeah, I figured a two-week old photo was better than no illustration at all, though I suppose that was too hard to understand for some people.

    I should note that it’s actually, “MOORE.L”, which makes it even curioser. And he wore “MOORE.L” last year as well, so it’s not a one time thing: link
    [quote comment=”143273″]Also am I the only one who thinks the Pat’s have missed a trick with Tom and Kyle Brady on the roster? How many hardcore fans would feel obliged to buy an updated “T. BRADY” jersey if they switched him to that and Kyle to “K.BRADY”? It worked for Kobe…..[/quote]
    That would be a douchey move, wouldn’t it? It seems like the player with the seniority on the team is grandfathered in. I remember Steve Young wore just “YOUNG” and Bryant Young, who joined team after Steve, wore “B. YOUNG”.

    Also, I seem to remember Ricky Williams wearing his whole name on the back with the Saints. Am I mistaken?

    [quote comment=”143311″]I see 8 that are identifiable to me:

    28: Jersey, ball, both hands, right shoe
    20: left hand, jersey
    31: jersey[/quote]

    You missed the one on 28’s visor, the 2 on the wristbands of 20, and 3 on 31- shoulder and the size tag (blurry, but unmistakabe on a Nike Athletic garment.) also one on his right hand.

    That’s 13!

    SB

    [quote comment=”143307″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0709/cfb.top25.week3/content.16.html

    i counted 7 swooshes[/quote]
    [quote comment=”143311″]I see 8 that are identifiable to me:

    28: Jersey, ball, both hands, right shoe
    20: left hand, jersey
    31: jersey[/quote]

    I got 19:

    #28 (7): visor, jersey, ball, both hands, left leg, left shoe
    #31 (5): jersey (shoulder), jersey (tag), pants, glove, right shoe
    #20 (7): jersey, pants, both gloves, both wristbands, tongue of right shoe

    You could also list the band on #20’s right leg, and the ones on #31’s left shoe and right glove, but they’re really hard to make out (even though we all know what they are) – and there’s also the word “Nike” on #28’s visor.

    Actually, I’ve noticed something a little odd in the picture. #31 from Fresno State has some sort of patch or marking above the WAC on his right shoulder. #20 does not have this. Any ideas?

    [quote comment=”143318″][quote comment=”143311″]I see 8 that are identifiable to me:

    28: Jersey, ball, both hands, right shoe
    20: left hand, jersey
    31: jersey[/quote]

    You missed the one on 28’s visor, the 2 on the wristbands of 20, and 3 on 31- shoulder and the size tag (blurry, but unmistakabe on a Nike Athletic garment.) also one on his right hand.

    That’s 13!

    SB[/quote]

    Damn! I didn’t even scroll down!

    The best uni of the day is link in link, even though I hate the uni. He was the only reason to watch last week’s Sunday Night Football game or tonight’s.

    By the way, does anybody know if Eddie Guns is doing all the SNF games this year?

    P.S. I am allowed to post pics of Ed since I need my eye candy, too.

    P.P.S. I did not like the ugly brown throwbacks of the Steelers, and Cowher didn’t, either. He added that coaches had absolutely no say in the matter. Too bad. It would be interesting to see which unis different cooaches would pick.

    You missed the one on 28’s visor, the 2 on the wristbands of 20, and 3 on 31- shoulder and the size tag (blurry, but unmistakabe on a Nike Athletic garment.) also one on his right hand.

    That’s 13!

    The one on 28’s visor makes 9, but the rest are too blurry to me, only identifiable because we know they’re supposed to be there, so I don’t count them.

    Actually, I’ve noticed something a little odd in the picture. #31 from Fresno State has some sort of patch or marking above the WAC on his right shoulder. #20 does not have this. Any ideas?

    It appears to be a link, possibly a coin being flipped. Must be their goofy way of signifying captains.

    Minna loves the Hoch. They should just play all the games on neutral sites and let Eddie Guns and Bernie Kukar do every game. I don’t care if Bernie retired.

    Hell, bring back Red Cashion too.

    Everytime I see Eddie Benchpress doing a game, I hear the voice of Mitch Holthus saying “Ed Hercules”.

    “Hochulis, Hochulis”, like “Hercules, Hercules”. I ADORE Mr. Pythons. I agree with TD that he should ref every game. Can you believe he didn’t coach a single game in the post-season last year? Travesty! Not only is he the best-looking ref in the NFL, he is the best ref, period.

    Stevo, who is Mitch Holthus?

    I have to admit it’s a little odd to be lusting over a man who is a grandfather, but then I just figure, I can be his younger woman.

    Ok, not at all uni-related, but more a plea to the uni-watch world; does anyone have access to tickets to the NY Rangers, NJ Devils, Phila Flyers, or Pittsburgh Penguins who would be willing to sell me one game? I reeeeeally want to go see the Stars play one of these teams in Nov., but according to the team websites, I can only get them if I spend a gazillion dollars for lower level tickets cuz the cheap tickets are sold out…I had no idea the NHL had gotten so damn popular. Anyway, let me know!

    [quote comment=”143329″]Ok, not at all uni-related, but more a plea to the uni-watch world; does anyone have access to tickets to the NY Rangers, NJ Devils, Phila Flyers, or Pittsburgh Penguins who would be willing to sell me one game? I reeeeeally want to go see the Stars play one of these teams in Nov., but according to the team websites, I can only get them if I spend a gazillion dollars for lower level tickets cuz the cheap tickets are sold out…I had no idea the NHL had gotten so damn popular. Anyway, let me know![/quote]

    Lucky you…you get to see the white jersey! BTW – not sure if anyone cares, but Stars are asking fort comments on the new jerseys on their myspace page. Most agree they just flat out suck!

    [quote comment=”143322″]P.P.S. I did not like the ugly brown throwbacks of the Steelers, and Cowher didn’t, either. [/quote]

    What’s brown about them?

    [quote comment=”143332″][quote comment=”143322″]P.P.S. I did not like the ugly brown throwbacks of the Steelers, and Cowher didn’t, either. [/quote]

    What’s brown about them?[/quote]

    Giancarlo, damn. That’s what I get for not looking at pics of the game and only relying on the replays on TV. Even though I have HD, they looked dark brown. Still, as I view the link, they don’t seem as black as the usual Steelers unis. I know, it’s not possible to have a lighter shade of black, but there you go.

    I think I should clarify that the black of the throwbacks appear more dull than the usual black, which is possibly why they look brown on TV.

    I am just trying to cover my ass here. I still like the current unis better. The black looks richer.

    To show how ignorant some fans are- to quote a poster on the Stars’ myspace page about the new jerseys “the home jersey is barely different, and all the teams changed a little so the stars had to lose the star at the bottom.” I’m almost tempted to join myspace just to correct him…almost.

    [quote comment=”143331″][quote comment=”143329″]
    Lucky you…you get to see the white jersey! BTW – not sure if anyone cares, but Stars are asking fort comments on the new jerseys on their myspace page. Most agree they just flat out suck![/quote]

    Looking at the Stars’ myspace page for the first time (sorry, I refuse to get a page), I really like the green stars on the gold background that’s the border on the page. That would’ve looked soo much better incorporated on to the jersey than the garbage they ended up with.

    [quote comment=”143317″][quote comment=”143313″][quote comment=”143296″][quote comment=”143207″] (trying to close the unclosed italics tag here)

    I was watching Manchester City vs Aston Villa this morning and noticed that the back of Luke Moore’s jersey read “Moore L.”: link

    Does anyone know why he doesn’t wear “L. Moore” or simply “Moore” since there’s no other Moore on the Aston Villa squad?[/quote]

    thats aston villa and chelsea, get ur teams rite, especially when its the european yankees[/quote]

    The pic may have been Chelsea, but today’s game was against Man. City. Tom used an old image to illustrate.[/quote]Yeah, I figured a two-week old photo was better than no illustration at all, though I suppose that was too hard to understand for some people.

    I should note that it’s actually, “MOORE.L”, which makes it even curioser. And he wore “MOORE.L” last year as well, so it’s not a one time thing: link
    [/quote]The Premier League allows players to wear either proper name on their shirt, meaning first name or surname. Apparently initials are allowed under a number of circumstances as well, and not only when a teammate has the same surname. Park Ji-Sung (or Ji-Sung Park, depending on how you want to write it), wears J. S. Park for Manchester United, despite being the only Park in the squad: link

    Darren Bent wears “D. Bent” for Tottenham Hotspur, though he’s the only Bent at the club. At his prior club, Charlton, there was a Marcus Bent, and each guy wore his first initial as well: link Presumably Darren got attached to his “D.” and decided to keep it when he transferred to Spurs.

    I can only imagine that Luke Moore was similarly superstitious or otherwise change-resistant. Luke came up through the Aston Villa youth setup (and eventually first-team squad) with his brother Stefan, who wore “Moore. S” until he left the club in 2005. Maybe Luke wears his first initial in recognition of his brother. Maybe he’s just attached to it. None of this answers the question of why the surname is first, something that I’ve always thought was odd.

    In another, unrelated note, Texas A&M tight end Martellus Bennett scrapped his usual number 13 on Saturday in favor of number 85. He’s wearing the new number in recognition of injured Bills TE Kevin Everett, who he met on a recruiting trip to Miami. Apparently Bennett will wear #85 for the rest of the season. Details link.

    Not that you didn’t believe me, but link‘s a picture of Bennett wearing 85 on Saturday. link‘s him wearing 13 in the previous game against Montana State.

    And in one more note related to both the discussion of initials and the Bennett note: you can see in the second picture that Martellus wears “MA. BENNETT.” His brother, Michael, and A&M defensive end, wears “MI. BENNETT.” Also, the picture of Martellus wearing #13 is from the Louisiana-Lafayette game last year, not Montana State this year as I wrote before. Even if you couldn’t see the opposing team, there are some subtle Aggie uniform differences between ’06 and this year, notably stripes on the pants.

    [quote comment=”143324″]

    Actually, I’ve noticed something a little odd in the picture. #31 from Fresno State has some sort of patch or marking above the WAC on his right shoulder. #20 does not have this. Any ideas?

    It appears to be a link, possibly a coin being flipped. Must be their goofy way of signifying captains.[/quote]

    Found it: it’s an link

    [quote comment=”143146″]Random uniform research question: has any team reissued a number to a player with the same last name?

    Example: if Warren Sapp were to leave the Oakland Raiders, and then they sign someone named John Sapp, and he wore 99[/quote]

    Most definitely, the one I can think of off the top of my head is the San Francisco Giants giving #22 to Will Clark after if had been worn by Jack Clark a few years prior.

    [quote comment=”143262″][quote comment=”143259″]Was listening to the 8th inning of the Mets game yesterday(Saturday). They were about to lose and the commentator said that Charlie? the Mets equipment manager said that they would not be wearing blue caps and pinstripes if they lost again Saturday. (They lost Friday and ended up losing Saturday in blue caps and pinstripes.) We will see if he is true to his word.[/quote]

    He was. The Mets wore black today.[/quote]

    I meant he said they would not be wearing them for the rest of the season……

    [quote comment=”143333″][quote comment=”143332″][quote comment=”143322″]P.P.S. I did not like the ugly brown throwbacks of the Steelers, and Cowher didn’t, either. [/quote]

    What’s brown about them?[/quote]

    Giancarlo, damn. That’s what I get for not looking at pics of the game and only relying on the replays on TV. Even though I have HD, they looked dark brown. Still, as I view the link, they don’t seem as black as the usual Steelers unis. I know, it’s not possible to have a lighter shade of black, but there you go.

    I think I should clarify that the black of the throwbacks appear more dull than the usual black, which is possibly why they look brown on TV.

    I am just trying to cover my ass here. I still like the current unis better. The black looks richer.[/quote]

    I saw the highlights on CBS earlier and the blacks looked great. Just saw them again on NFL Network and the contrast was off and they looked horrid. Rich Eisen referred to them as ‘Tecmo-Bowl uniforms’.

    The photos look solid, but it was a bright day in the burgh, and the yellow took over a few TV sets here and there, methinks.

    [quote comment=”143339″]Not that you didn’t believe me, but link‘s a picture of Bennett wearing 85 on Saturday. link‘s him wearing 13 in the previous game against Montana State.[/quote]
    That ain’t Montana State, that’s Louisiana Lafayette. The fighting Bobcats wear navy and gold.
    Signed,
    A uni-watching Montana State grad.

    [quote comment=”143365″][quote comment=”143333″][quote comment=”143332″][quote comment=”143322″]P.P.S. I did not like the ugly brown throwbacks of the Steelers, and Cowher didn’t, either. [/quote]

    What’s brown about them?[/quote]

    Giancarlo, damn. That’s what I get for not looking at pics of the game and only relying on the replays on TV. Even though I have HD, they looked dark brown. Still, as I view the link, they don’t seem as black as the usual Steelers unis. I know, it’s not possible to have a lighter shade of black, but there you go.

    I think I should clarify that the black of the throwbacks appear more dull than the usual black, which is possibly why they look brown on TV.

    I am just trying to cover my ass here. I still like the current unis better. The black looks richer.[/quote]

    I saw the highlights on CBS earlier and the blacks looked great. Just saw them again on NFL Network and the contrast was off and they looked horrid.

    Rich Eisen referred to them as ‘Tecmo-Bowl uniforms’.

    The photos look solid, but it was a bright day in the burgh, and the yellow took over a few TV sets here and there, methinks.[/quote]

    TD, so what you’re saying is that on HD, it actually looks worse. That makes sense. I also agree that the brightness of the yellow outshone the black.

    What are you doing up, my friend? Me, I can’t sleep after waking up early.

    Back in 1983, Dan Reeves tried that mentality here in Denver, and caused quite an uproar with the Broncos NOT wearing orange at home. Hated it then, although there are some teams that can pull it off (wearing white at home). San Diego needs to either bring back and keep the powder blue jerseys and/or bring back the yellow pants like they had in the 70s-80s

    [quote comment=”143287″][quote comment=”143211″]This white at home has got to stop in the NFL, i understand for teams in Florida or hot weather. But San Diego last week, and now Chicago this week. Im a bears fan and they’ve done this once each of the past 2 years, but both times it was against Detroit for some reason. Now they are doing it against KC. I dont mind the white bears jersey, but its annoying and the home navy blue jerseys look 10x better[/quote]
    San Diego wore the whites, hoping for hotter weather (and make Chicago wear the navy blues). Under Lovie Smith, Chicago has worn white at home because he wanted to take advantage of the normally warmer weather; in Chicago, even 80 degrees with about 45-50% humidity is pretty uncomfortable. Expect to see the navy blues at home next Sunday night against Dallas (they’re also very hard to pick out at night).[/quote]

    Re: Hochuli…I miss “Gentle” Ben Dreith, the only NFL Ref to throw a 15-yard flag on a guy for “givin’ him the business.”

    [quote comment=”143394″]Re: Hochuli…I miss “Gentle” Ben Dreith, the only NFL Ref to throw a 15-yard flag on a guy for “givin’ him the business.”[/quote]

    Not sure who the ref was, but in the Pittsburgh-Buffalo game yesterday, a Buffalo player got flagged for “getting in the official’s face”.

    LOVE the Iowa State throwbacks. IMO – keep ’em!

    Problem with NFL throwbacks: uniform fit. The old style colors/design usually don’t look right with the ultra tight fit of today’s uni’s. Especially with the Incredible Shrinking Sleeves.

    [quote comment=”143338″][quote comment=”143317″][quote comment=”143313″][quote comment=”143296″][quote comment=”143207″] (trying to close the unclosed italics tag here)

    I was watching Manchester City vs Aston Villa this morning and noticed that the back of Luke Moore’s jersey read “Moore L.”: link

    Does anyone know why he doesn’t wear “L. Moore” or simply “Moore” since there’s no other Moore on the Aston Villa squad?[/quote]

    thats aston villa and chelsea, get ur teams rite, especially when its the european yankees[/quote]

    The pic may have been Chelsea, but today’s game was against Man. City. Tom used an old image to illustrate.[/quote]Yeah, I figured a two-week old photo was better than no illustration at all, though I suppose that was too hard to understand for some people.

    I should note that it’s actually, “MOORE.L”, which makes it even curioser. And he wore “MOORE.L” last year as well, so it’s not a one time thing: link
    [/quote]The Premier League allows players to wear either proper name on their shirt, meaning first name or surname. Apparently initials are allowed under a number of circumstances as well, and not only when a teammate has the same surname. Park Ji-Sung (or Ji-Sung Park, depending on how you want to write it), wears J. S. Park for Manchester United, despite being the only Park in the squad: link

    Darren Bent wears “D. Bent” for Tottenham Hotspur, though he’s the only Bent at the club. At his prior club, Charlton, there was a Marcus Bent, and each guy wore his first initial as well: link Presumably Darren got attached to his “D.” and decided to keep it when he transferred to Spurs.

    I can only imagine that Luke Moore was similarly superstitious or otherwise change-resistant. Luke came up through the Aston Villa youth setup (and eventually first-team squad) with his brother Stefan, who wore “Moore. S” until he left the club in 2005. Maybe Luke wears his first initial in recognition of his brother. Maybe he’s just attached to it. None of this answers the question of why the surname is first, something that I’ve always thought was odd.[/quote]Thanks for clearing up some of the mystery. My guess is that it was a printing error that stuck, but I have nothing to base that on.

    Everyone got a kick out of this over the weekend
    Dingle – Berry

    This is not the first time I have seen this and I think it is safe to say they know what they are doing.

    Re: Helmet decal honors.

    When Wisconsin plays at UNLV, both teams wear a decal with the initials “TW” for former Badger player and lated UNLV regent Tom Weisner.

    Stevo, who is Mitch Holthus?

    Mitch Holthus is the radio voice of the Kansas City Chiefs. He has nicknames for different entities, either for comedic effect (Ed Hercules) or because he just hates them (referring to the Broncos as the Donkeys has always been a favorite).

    [quote comment=”143160″]Buccaneers wearing white pants with white jersey…Looks SO much better than those hideous pewter pants. Then again, white pants almost always looks best with white jerseys in the NFL.[/quote]

    I must disagree. Can’t stand the Bucs white pants. Pewter pants look better although sometimes similar to 49er from afar.

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