North of the Border Report, Eh

The Rangers’ uniform links don’t work.

And I have the actual sign that Liz’s shirt is based on. It’s on a door that goes to the outside of our house. Nobody has ever been hit, so it must be working.

…page 5 of the uniwatch membership uniform cards is one wacky and diverse collection.
It’s got it all – golf, indoor soccer, america’s cup, a bat boy, throwbacks, ivy league rugby, FIFA, and not to mention, a “pope,” a “llama,” a “gay,” a “nigro,” and a “stein.”

Truly an amazing cross section of Uniwatch members

Carlos Rogers is wearing soccer cleats?…maybe THAT’S why he’s only got 3 interceptions in 2 YEARS…he might not realize he CAN touch the ball with his hands.

[quote comment=”126561″]Kevin Garnett is apparently headed to the Celtics (who are giving up everything but Danny Ainge’s first born to get him).

But the question on my mind…what number will Garnett wear? 21 is retired (Bill Sharman) and the number Garnett wore at Farragut Academy (34) is taken by Paul Pierce…[/quote]
And he wore #10 for international play , but that’s link also. Maybe he could take the #7 vacated by Al Jefferson, whom he was traded for. He could also go with 71, which, if you kind of squint, looks like 21.

Paul Morris and Tommy Gough…your shop brought back so many great memories of my time in the business…every photo I could relate with…awesome stuff!

I’d love to pick your brains about a few things…get my email from Paul if you’re cool with that!

Those Tee-Pee Jerseys are classic, just beautiful.

[quote comment=”126568″][quote comment=”126566″][quote comment=”126561″]Kevin Garnett is apparently headed to the Celtics (who are giving up everything but Danny Ainge’s first born to get him).

But the question on my mind…what number will Garnett wear? 21 is retired (Bill Sharman) and the number Garnett wore at Farragut Academy (34) is taken by Paul Pierce…[/quote]
And he wore #10 for international play , but that’s link also. Maybe he could take the #7 vacated by Al Jefferson, whom he was traded for. He could also go with 71, which, if you kind of squint, looks like 21.[/quote]

maybe 12… 21 backwards…[/quote]
Allan Ray (not Ray Allen #20) currently wears 12.

link

Of course with 4, 5, 7, 30, & 50 being vacated by guys going to Minnesota, some numbers open up. I think he’d look good in a single digit.

[quote comment=”126576″][quote comment=”126575″][quote comment=”126568″][quote comment=”126566″][quote comment=”126561″]Kevin Garnett is apparently headed to the Celtics (who are giving up everything but Danny Ainge’s first born to get him).

But the question on my mind…what number will Garnett wear? 21 is retired (Bill Sharman) and the number Garnett wore at Farragut Academy (34) is taken by Paul Pierce…[/quote]
And he wore #10 for international play , but that’s link also. Maybe he could take the #7 vacated by Al Jefferson, whom he was traded for. He could also go with 71, which, if you kind of squint, looks like 21.[/quote]

maybe 12… 21 backwards…[/quote]
Allan Ray (not Ray Allen #20) currently wears 12.

link

Of course with 4, 5, 7, 30, & 50 being vacated by guys going to Minnesota, some numbers open up. I think he’d look good in a single digit.[/quote]

Allan Ray was waived yesterday[/quote]
Nevermind then.

[quote comment=”126575″][quote comment=”126568″][quote comment=”126566″][quote comment=”126561″]Kevin Garnett is apparently headed to the Celtics (who are giving up everything but Danny Ainge’s first born to get him).

But the question on my mind…what number will Garnett wear? 21 is retired (Bill Sharman) and the number Garnett wore at Farragut Academy (34) is taken by Paul Pierce…[/quote]
And he wore #10 for international play , but that’s link also. Maybe he could take the #7 vacated by Al Jefferson, whom he was traded for. He could also go with 71, which, if you kind of squint, looks like 21.[/quote]

maybe 12… 21 backwards…[/quote]
Allan Ray (not Ray Allen #20) currently wears 12.

link

Of course with 4, 5, 7, 30, & 50 being vacated by guys going to Minnesota, some numbers open up. I think he’d look good in a single digit.[/quote]

Allan Ray, thank the good Lord, was waived a week ago. He got a two year deal in Italy. If Garnett wears #7 it will ruffle my feathers a bit. I need time to get over trading away the best young post player in the past decade.

I hope Garnett chooses 5. We haven’t had much luck recently with #12 (Ricky Davis, Allan Ray) or #45 (Raef LaFrentz). As far as I can remember there hasn’t been a #5 since John Bagley. I’m looking that up now, but any help would be great.

I’m hoping for as much karma as I can with this huge lack of bench the Celts are now dealing with.

[quote comment=”126579″][quote comment=”126575″][quote comment=”126568″][quote comment=”126566″][quote comment=”126561″]Kevin Garnett is apparently headed to the Celtics (who are giving up everything but Danny Ainge’s first born to get him).

But the question on my mind…what number will Garnett wear? 21 is retired (Bill Sharman) and the number Garnett wore at Farragut Academy (34) is taken by Paul Pierce…[/quote]
And he wore #10 for international play , but that’s link also. Maybe he could take the #7 vacated by Al Jefferson, whom he was traded for. He could also go with 71, which, if you kind of squint, looks like 21.[/quote]

maybe 12… 21 backwards…[/quote]
Allan Ray (not Ray Allen #20) currently wears 12.

link

Of course with 4, 5, 7, 30, & 50 being vacated by guys going to Minnesota, some numbers open up. I think he’d look good in a single digit.[/quote]

Allan Ray, thank the good Lord, was waived a week ago. He got a two year deal in Italy. If Garnett wears #7 it will ruffle my feathers a bit. I need time to get over trading away the best young post player in the past decade.

I hope Garnett chooses 5. We haven’t had much luck recently with #12 (Ricky Davis, Allan Ray) or #45 (Raef LaFrentz). As far as I can remember there hasn’t been a #5 since John Bagley. I’m looking that up now, but any help would be great.

I’m hoping for as much karma as I can with this huge lack of bench the Celts are now dealing with.[/quote]
#5 would harken back to Bill Walton coming to the Celtics for one last hurrah in 1986.

Bill Walsh deserves to be remembered with more than a ribbon or patch and Dustin Shryock of New York has a great idea.

I read it this morning in the San Francisco Chronicles website, link.

Walsh defined an era. On the field of play, nothing represents and era better than a uniform.

[quote comment=”126587″]so I guess we won’t be getting a Celtics game-time shot of #12 standing next to #20 (and vice versa) any time soon, huh? a shame…[/quote]

Very true. The only downfall to the Allan Ray dismissal was no Allan Ray/Ray Allen combination to confuse the hell out of Tommy Heinsohn.

[quote]#5 would harken back to Bill Walton coming to the Celtics for one last hurrah in 1986.[/quote]

Bill Walton wore #5 for the Celtics, but I’m trying to think of the last person to wear #5 for them. I’m pretty sure it was Bagley in the early/mid 90s.

my apologies that I did not have the time to read through all of yesterday’s comments, or if it has been mentioned before, but it has been noted on cris creamer’s boards that the ravens are wearing black cleats in camp. chalk up another NFL conversion to black!!

the ravens were one of the worst looking squads in white cleats, finally upgrading. that leaves pittsburgh and oakland the only “sore thumbs” left in the league wearing white cleats with a black-dominated uni.

now if only the pack would get on board!!

Cape Cod League had the Under Armour All Star game last night, with all the required link.

[quote comment=”126566″][quote comment=”126561″]Kevin Garnett is apparently headed to the Celtics (who are giving up everything but Danny Ainge’s first born to get him).

But the question on my mind…what number will Garnett wear? 21 is retired (Bill Sharman) and the number Garnett wore at Farragut Academy (34) is taken by Paul Pierce…[/quote]
And he wore #10 for international play , but that’s link also. Maybe he could take the #7 vacated by Al Jefferson, whom he was traded for. He could also go with 71, which, if you kind of squint, looks like 21.[/quote]

Am I the only one who thinks the Celtics have retired waaaay too many numbers, and eventually (in the reasonably near future) will run out of available numbers? If we assume both Pierce and KG will have their numbers retired, that’s 23 out of the first 36 (64%) possible numbers that would be unavailable. The only ones left would be 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 20, 26, 27, 28, 29, and 30, minus whatever Garnett wears.

[quote comment=”126590″][quote comment=”126587″]so I guess we won’t be getting a Celtics game-time shot of #12 standing next to #20 (and vice versa) any time soon, huh? a shame…[/quote]

Very true. The only downfall to the Allan Ray dismissal was no Allan Ray/Ray Allen combination to confuse the hell out of Tommy Heinsohn.

[quote]#5 would harken back to Bill Walton coming to the Celtics for one last hurrah in 1986.[/quote]

Bill Walton wore #5 for the Celtics, but I’m trying to think of the last person to wear #5 for them. I’m pretty sure it was Bagley in the early/mid 90s.[/quote]

Gerald Green wore 5, didn’t he?

[quote comment=”126592″]my apologies that I did not have the time to read through all of yesterday’s comments, or if it has been mentioned before, but it has been noted on cris creamer’s boards that the ravens are wearing black cleats in camp. chalk up another NFL conversion to black!!

the ravens were one of the worst looking squads in white cleats, finally upgrading. that leaves pittsburgh and oakland the only “sore thumbs” left in the league wearing white cleats with a black-dominated uni.

now if only the pack would get on board!![/quote]

It’s Alameda County law that any pro sports team from here must wear predominately white footwear.

Just kidding, I can only hope….

Not uni related, but logo related…

link

[quote comment=”126593″]
this jersey was never made by Mitchell and Ness. When we were aloud to make his jersey we only made his 1975, 1967 and vested 1964 flannel[/quote]

I was in Cooperstown this past weekend and got to see a million M&N throwbacks. It was nice to actually get to see them in person as opposed to just online, but I was very disappointed in how many errors there were with a lot of them….wrong size numbers, wrong style names, and wrong style numbers. I would think that there were people there sort of jersey “fact checking” these before they hit production.

[quote comment=”126603″]Where can I get those Amazin’ Meterie and Metry T-shirts?[/quote]

They are not online, you can try calling the Zs to see if they deliver. link

[quote comment=”126597″][quote comment=”126593″]
this jersey was never made by Mitchell and Ness. When we were aloud to make his jersey we only made his 1975, 1967 and vested 1964 flannel[/quote]
Reds didn’t wear that number style in 1985[/quote]

So where did this uniform and the M&N label come from?

Paul, any news on the Auburn patch and special uni they’ll wear this year? Thanks for any help.

Now the Zephyr’s are the Mets affiliate? When I moved to New Orleans in 1999, they were the Astros affiliate and when I left in 2005, they were the Nationals affiliate. My knowledge of minor league baseball is limited, but that seems like a lot of team switching!

By next year they could have a new team and those Metry shirts would be obsolete!

[quote comment=”126614″]Pierce while he was a ‘franchise’ player never (until this point) won a championship…[/quote]
Neither did Ed Macauley (22) or Reggie Lewis (35).

[quote comment=”126620″][quote comment=”126597″][quote comment=”126593″]
this jersey was never made by Mitchell and Ness. When we were aloud to make his jersey we only made his 1975, 1967 and vested 1964 flannel[/quote]
Reds didn’t wear that number style in 1985[/quote]
So where did this uniform and the M&N label come from?[/quote]

There are TONS of fake M&N’s floating around. I have one, but it wasn’t expensive and the quality is good enough for me.

Why doesn’t uniwatch make a jersey

[quote comment=”126635″][quote comment=”126620″][quote comment=”126597″][quote comment=”126593″]
this jersey was never made by Mitchell and Ness. When we were aloud to make his jersey we only made his 1975, 1967 and vested 1964 flannel[/quote]
Reds didn’t wear that number style in 1985[/quote]
So where did this uniform and the M&N label come from?[/quote]

There are TONS of fake M&N’s floating around. I have one, but it wasn’t expensive and the quality is good enough for me.[/quote]
Tons of Fakes out there!!

[quote comment=”126613″][quote comment=”126593″]
this jersey was never made by Mitchell and Ness. When we were aloud to make his jersey we only made his 1975, 1967 and vested 1964 flannel[/quote]

I was in Cooperstown this past weekend and got to see a million M&N throwbacks. It was nice to actually get to see them in person as opposed to just online, but I was very disappointed in how many errors there were with a lot of them….wrong size numbers, wrong style names, and wrong style numbers. I would think that there were people there sort of jersey “fact checking” these before they hit production.[/quote]

They refer to loads of photos and make sure the jerseys are accurate. If you’re relying solely on your memory of the uniforms to chastise them, I suggest you double check them. Chances are better that you were remembering incorrectly.

[quote comment=”126588″]Bill Walsh deserves to be remembered with more than a ribbon or patch and Dustin Shryock of New York has a great idea.

I read it this morning in the San Francisco Chronicles website, link.

Thanks Roger for the link….I’m far removed being out here in Colorado.

Coach Walsh definitely brought pride and class to the 49’ers as well as that winning spirit. Many thanks to you Coach….

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Walsh defined an era. On the field of play, nothing represents and era better than a uniform.[/quote]

Reminder If you arent one of the 71 folks who have already sent in their contact information for the Uni Watch rolodex, please get it to my be the end of the day tomorrow. Send all information to link with the subject as Uni Watch

The information I need is;
Name you go by when posting
Real name
Occupation
E-mail
Location
Any personal website/blog

Thanks!

[quote comment=”126657″]Reminder If you arent one of the 71 folks who have already sent in their contact information for the Uni Watch rolodex, please get it to my be the end of the day tomorrow. Send all information to link with the subject as Uni Watch

The information I need is;
Name you go by when posting
Real name
Occupation
E-mail
Location
Any personal website/blog

Thanks![/quote]

What’s this list for? Is it a public listing or something you and/or Paul hold or just a demographic research kinda thing?

[quote comment=”126653″][quote comment=”126588″]Bill Walsh deserves to be remembered with more than a ribbon or patch and Dustin Shryock of New York has a great idea.

I read it this morning in the San Francisco Chronicles website, link.

Thanks Roger for the link….I’m far removed being out here in Colorado.

Coach Walsh definitely brought pride and class to the 49’ers as well as that winning spirit. Many thanks to you Coach….

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Walsh defined an era. On the field of play, nothing represents and era better than a uniform.[/quote][/quote]

9ers would have had to submit for the uniform change a while back to get approval. No way the NFL would let them switch for more than 1 throwback game, without all the prior approvals. (All the licensing BS and such.) It is a great idea for a tribute…Most likely, it’ll be a patch, though.

[quote comment=”126622″][quote comment=”126602″]

Am I the only one who thinks the Celtics have retired waaaay too many numbers, and eventually (in the reasonably near future) will run out of available numbers? If we assume both Pierce and KG will have their numbers retired, that’s 23 out of the first 36 (64%) possible numbers that would be unavailable. The only ones left would be 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 20, 26, 27, 28, 29, and 30, minus whatever Garnett wears.[/quote]

Once the Yankees retire Jeter’s #2, they’ll have no single-digits numbers to hand out. Basketball teams have less players. I think the Celts will be ok handing out numbers still.[/quote]

Minor correction – link

Both will be retired, and that means that future generations will only see single-digits at Yankee Stadium on Old Timers’ Day.

[quote comment=”126666″][quote comment=”126641″][quote comment=”126635″][quote comment=”126620″][quote comment=”126597″][quote comment=”126593″]
this jersey was never made by Mitchell and Ness. When we were aloud to make his jersey we only made his 1975, 1967 and vested 1964 flannel[/quote]
Reds didn’t wear that number style in 1985[/quote]
So where did this uniform and the M&N label come from?[/quote]

There are TONS of fake M&N’s floating around. I have one, but it wasn’t expensive and the quality is good enough for me.[/quote]
Tons of Fakes out there!![/quote]

Let me show you some real ones that are just flat out wrong…

link – Flat out wrong name style…link

link & link – The front #8 is wrong. The top portion of the 8 should be link than the bottom. link. 1988 was the last year they ever used the larger and symmetrical front numbers.

These are pretty HUGE mistakes if you ask me![/quote]

I was gonna comment on one oddity I have always noticed between the 1969 Road Mets Seaver and Ryan jerseys. The link didn’t have piping while the link did. However it seems like the link to to the Ryan Jersey.

Vince or paul can you recover my eaten post

Kevin Garnett is NOT being traded. I am in denial. I wish him good luck, though. I’m just afraid Torii Hunter is next.

I am a day late and a dollar short, but I like the Pacers stripes stopping in the middle of the membership card.

That hockey shop is amazing. Good work, Paul and Tommy. Glad to know the first international Uni Watch party was a success. Welcome back, Paul, and keep up the excellent work.

[quote comment=”126669″][quote comment=”126642″][quote comment=”126620″][quote comment=”126597″][quote comment=”126593″]
this jersey was never made by Mitchell and Ness. When we were aloud to make his jersey we only made his 1975, 1967 and vested 1964 flannel[/quote]
Reds didn’t wear that number style in 1985[/quote]

So where did this uniform and the M&N label come from?[/quote]

…asked the man from NYC Trademarks.[/quote]

Ah, but you never know if M&N had lost a shipment somewhere.

There’re also grey market goods, which are goods made by a factory outside of their licensing agreements. (A factory can make 1000 Coach purses under an agreement. If they make 1000 more, they are up to Coach standards, but they’re not allowed. They’re not fakes – black-market goods – they’re just created unlawfully.)

So I wasn’t sure if it were just a fake or if M&N had info of something else and were willing to share.[/quote]

Now that’s something interesting I never thought of. Now I’m glad I made my smart ass comment.

You are correct. These are mistakes..HUGE mistakes. However, since taking over the research position I have corrected these, as well as many other inaccuracy that have been portrayed on our uniforms. I am very passionate about the recreation of a historical product and as much a stickler to the attention of details within the uniform as much as anyone else on this site.

Erich Reich has no taste. Sorry.

[quote comment=”126691″]You are correct. These are mistakes..HUGE mistakes. However, since taking over the research position I have corrected these, as well as many other inaccuracy that have been portrayed on our uniforms. I am very passionate about the recreation of a historical product and as much a stickler to the attention of details within the uniform as much as anyone else on this site.[/quote]
If you’ve corrected them, then why are they still being sold wrong?

Jason- I’m not in sales buddy.
Also, Anthony..the Cooperstown Collection tag is different. The M & N insignia should be in red, as well as the diamonds below the CC logo..with a white backing

[quote comment=”126689″][quote comment=”126669″][quote comment=”126642″][quote comment=”126620″][quote comment=”126597″][quote comment=”126593″]
this jersey was never made by Mitchell and Ness. When we were aloud to make his jersey we only made his 1975, 1967 and vested 1964 flannel[/quote]
Reds didn’t wear that number style in 1985[/quote]

So where did this uniform and the M&N label come from?[/quote]

…asked the man from NYC Trademarks.[/quote]

Ah, but you never know if M&N had lost a shipment somewhere.

There’re also grey market goods, which are goods made by a factory outside of their licensing agreements. (A factory can make 1000 Coach purses under an agreement. If they make 1000 more, they are up to Coach standards, but they’re not allowed. They’re not fakes – black-market goods – they’re just created unlawfully.)

So I wasn’t sure if it were just a fake or if M&N had info of something else and were willing to share.[/quote]
[/quote]

Does that mean that all that crazy knock-off crap on Canal St. is actually quality, just unlicensed, stuff?

for that rose jersey…
i dont think they ever used serifs during that period… thats what tipped me off…
if shopping on ebay for a m&n
seller lakeshow is about the best you’ll get…
i think he may have struck an agreement with the company or other retailers to buy what doesnt sell direct…
i got 5 from him. all of which i love…

[quote comment=”126628″]I like the attention to detail in the backward jersey worn in link: the buttons are on the left side and the belt is being worn upside down. However, it looks like his fly still opens to the right…that would be backwards when the film is flipped.[/quote]

interesting how the scoreboard on the overhang reads regular though…

if im not mistaken, garnett wore 54 at farragut as well. been searching but i cant find photographic evidence

From yesterday…

[quote comment=”126354″]With the way that some of NHL Franchises are being dictated to I think it would be appropriate to call the piping “Puppet Strings” with RBK seemingly being the ones pulling them![/quote]

I love it! Puppet Strings it is!

[quote comment=”126717″]From yesterday…

[quote comment=”126354″]With the way that some of NHL Franchises are being dictated to I think it would be appropriate to call the piping “Puppet Strings” with RBK seemingly being the ones pulling them![/quote]

I love it! Puppet Strings it is![/quote]

Can we up that to “Idiot Strings”? You know, like the string that used to hold your mittens to the cuffs of your jackets (for those of us who have used mittens before)?

[quote comment=”126720″][quote comment=”126717″]From yesterday…

[quote comment=”126354″]With the way that some of NHL Franchises are being dictated to I think it would be appropriate to call the piping “Puppet Strings” with RBK seemingly being the ones pulling them![/quote]

I love it! Puppet Strings it is![/quote]

Can we up that to “Idiot Strings”? You know, like the string that used to hold your mittens to the cuffs of your jackets (for those of us who have used mittens before)?[/quote]

Here’s link.

I was in Cooperstown this past weekend and got to see a million M&N throwbacks. It was nice to actually get to see them in person as opposed to just online, but I was very disappointed in how many errors there were with a lot of them….wrong size numbers, wrong style names, and wrong style numbers. I would think that there were people there sort of jersey “fact checking” these before they hit production.

Prolly a lot of bootlegs you reference see in Cooperstown. Peter Capalino (M&N Pres.) and his outstanding band of unitroops never make a jersey unless they have the proper materials, numerals, logos, etc… They are the best!!!

[quote comment=”126720″][quote comment=”126717″]From yesterday…

[quote comment=”126354″]With the way that some of NHL Franchises are being dictated to I think it would be appropriate to call the piping “Puppet Strings” with RBK seemingly being the ones pulling them![/quote]

I love it! Puppet Strings it is![/quote]

Can we up that to “Idiot Strings”? You know, like the string that used to hold your mittens to the cuffs of your jackets (for those of us who have used mittens before)?[/quote]

I’m with Teebz on this one. “Idiot Strings” is perfect, and, yes, I wore mittens with an idiot string when I was a wee lass.

New 2007 Napoli Kit just unveiled. link, link, and link. Good one sided write-up link about the uni’s. Personally, I think they look like Basketball jerseys with T-shirts under them. Not a good look.

[quote comment=”126713″]for that rose jersey…
i dont think they ever used serifs during that period… thats what tipped me off…
if shopping on ebay for a m&n
seller lakeshow is about the best you’ll get…
i think he may have struck an agreement with the company or other retailers to buy what doesnt sell direct…
i got 5 from him. all of which i love…[/quote]
eBay says that he’s not a registered user?

link
link
link
link

[quote comment=”126737″][quote comment=”126713″]for that rose jersey…
i dont think they ever used serifs during that period… thats what tipped me off…
if shopping on ebay for a m&n
seller lakeshow is about the best you’ll get…
i think he may have struck an agreement with the company or other retailers to buy what doesnt sell direct…
i got 5 from him. all of which i love…[/quote]
eBay says that he’s not a registered user?

link
link
link
link[/quote]
His ID is actually link. He’s a great guy to deal with and it looks like he has a shit ton of “old” style NHL authentics up now.

[quote comment=”126726″]I was in Cooperstown this past weekend and got to see a million M&N throwbacks. It was nice to actually get to see them in person as opposed to just online, but I was very disappointed in how many errors there were with a lot of them….wrong size numbers, wrong style names, and wrong style numbers. I would think that there were people there sort of jersey “fact checking” these before they hit production.

Prolly a lot of bootlegs you reference see in Cooperstown. Peter Capalino (M&N Pres.) and his outstanding band of unitroops never make a jersey unless they have the proper materials, numerals, logos, etc… They are the best!!![/quote]

TOG – See post #64 for some errors, but we have been assured that they have been addressed!

[quote comment=”126688″][quote]Once the Yankees retire Jeter’s #2, they’ll have no single-digits numbers to hand out.[/quote]

Actually, the Yankees would have ONE single digit number: zero. And I’d bet someone who gets traded there who once wore 1 or 2 might actually go for 0 if they can’t get another number they like.[/quote]

Do you really think that as tradition-wise the Yankees are, that they would issue a #0? If you do, you are naive. That will never happen.

[quote comment=”125979″]Regarding the Concepcion jersey number, when did they give him 57? Was it as a late-season call-up? I can’t imagine that he would have stuck with such a high number once his spot on the roster was secure, so it’s not like we would have had a generation of Venezuelan infielders all wanting 57.[/quote]

My guess is that #57 was issued during Spring Training and he got #13 for Opening Day. Johnny Bench wore #53 during Spring Training. Davey’s #13 will be retired by the Reds on August 25th vs. the Marlins.

[quote comment=”126589″]They are retiring #29 for Mike Coolbaugh.
Why is he wearing #32 in the picture?[/quote]

He wore #29 with the Cardinals in 2002.

[quote comment=”126668″][quote comment=”126622″][quote comment=”126602″]
Am I the only one who thinks the Celtics have retired waaaay too many numbers, and eventually (in the reasonably near future) will run out of available numbers? If we assume both Pierce and KG will have their numbers retired, that’s 23 out of the first 36 (64%) possible numbers that would be unavailable. The only ones left would be 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 20, 26, 27, 28, 29, and 30, minus whatever Garnett wears.[/quote]

Once the Yankees retire Jeter’s #2, they’ll have no single-digits numbers to hand out. Basketball teams have less players. I think the Celts will be ok handing out numbers still.[/quote]

Minor correction – link

Both will be retired, and that means that future generations will only see single-digits at Yankee Stadium on Old Timers’ Day.[/quote]

NEWSFLASH – 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55 can also be worn for thw Celtics. Plus, a player can petition the NBA to wear a special number, like Rodman’s #91.

The Celtics can retire as many numbers as they wish. You are willing to retire Garnett’s number before he has played a single minute for the Celtics? Ridulicious reasonong. Maybe for the Timberwolves, but the Celtics? Come on, get real.

Also, why do you assume that Torre’s #6 will be retired? Joe McCarthy’s number isn’t retired and he has managed more games, won more games, has a higher winning percentage, won 2 more pennants and 3 more World Series titles than Torre has and his number isn’t retired.

[quote comment=”126750″]

Also, why do you assume that Torre’s #6 will be retired? Joe McCarthy’s number isn’t retired and he has managed more games, won more games, has a higher winning percentage, won 2 more pennants and 3 more World Series titles than Torre has and his number isn’t retired.[/quote]

im glad you did the research DW. ive often wondered why people thought torre was a shoo-in for jersey retirement.

Anyone seen RBK’s link link for this year?
I’m guessing they’re the link that the link link on the sidelines.

link
Check out this #7 Garcia is sporting.

[quote comment=”126759″]http://www.bucpower.com/garcia-practice.jpg
Check out this #7 Garcia is sporting.[/quote]

we have been over this sooo many times the bucs use their logo font in their practice jerseys, we all know about it

[quote comment=”126754″][quote comment=”126738″]I don’t know if this was mentioned before but why do Dwight Howard & Carmelo Anthony wear their regular numbers on team USA. I thought players always switched their numbers.

Dwight Howard
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Carmelo Anthony
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Other players (older photo)
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International basketball team players typically wear #1-15. Just so happens that thier regular team numbers fall within that strand (#12 and #15)and there are probably no duplicates as when Iverson and Marbury (#3) were on the team so Iverson wore #4.[/quote]

historically the united states international team numbers are 4-15. enough for a 12 man squad.
ive never seen a u.s. international player wear 1, 2, or 3.

[quote comment=”126755″]Anyone seen RBK’s link link for this year?
I’m guessing they’re the link that the link link on the sidelines.[/quote]

These are ugly just like they are almost every year. The sideline hats are almost always a hat I would never own.

[quote comment=”126752″]Random fashion question: Is it a faux pas to wear the cap of one team and a t-shirt/sweater/jacket/etc. of another team at the same time?[/quote]
I’d say it is if the two teams are in the same sport and level (Cubs hat, Yanks jersey), but it’s ok if they’re either different sports (Cubs hat, Bears jersey) or different levels (Cubs hat, UC Irvine jersey).

Remember, theres the talk that #5 is cursed… Hopefully KG stays away from it.

[quote comment=”126765″][quote comment=”126759″]http://www.bucpower.com/garcia-practice.jpg
Check out this #7 Garcia is sporting.[/quote]

We seriously need a UniWatch FAQ that will address things such as the Tampa Bay practice jerseys… They’re a few years old people.[/quote]

I am so sorry for polluting your precious comments section with my ignorant posting.
Relax. I never saw it before — BFD.

[quote comment=”126775″][quote comment=”126765″][quote comment=”126759″]http://www.bucpower.com/garcia-practice.jpg
Check out this #7 Garcia is sporting.[/quote]

We seriously need a UniWatch FAQ that will address things such as the Tampa Bay practice jerseys… They’re a few years old people.[/quote]

I am so sorry for polluting your precious comments section with my ignorant posting.
Relax. I never saw it before — BFD.[/quote]

Dude this is brought up seriously everyday, that’s why it gets so annoying. Just look at yesterday’s comments. I can’t believe you havent seen it before.

[quote comment=”126770″][quote comment=”126752″]Random fashion question: Is it a faux pas to wear the cap of one team and a t-shirt/sweater/jacket/etc. of another team at the same time?[/quote]
I’d say it is if the two teams are in the same sport and level (Cubs hat, Yanks jersey), but it’s ok if they’re either different sports (Cubs hat, Bears jersey) or different levels (Cubs hat, UC Irvine jersey).[/quote]

I would consider it a faux paux if it isn’t two teams from the same metro area wih the same color combo.
For instance…

Met’s cap and Islanders sweater = Good
Diamondbaacks cap with Tampa Bay Lightning sweater = bad.

[quote comment=”126783″]
I would consider it a faux paux if it isn’t two teams from the same metro area wih the same color combo.
For instance…

Met’s cap and Islanders sweater = Good
Diamondbaacks cap with Tampa Bay Lightning sweater = bad.[/quote]

That’s more reason why all the teams from the same metro area should be wearing the same colour schemes.

The Lightning, Devil Rays and Buccaneers have totally different colour schemes.

Eliminate the Vegas gold from the Penguins and bring back the yellow!

[quote comment=”126625″]Now the Zephyr’s are the Mets affiliate? When I moved to New Orleans in 1999, they were the Astros affiliate and when I left in 2005, they were the Nationals affiliate. My knowledge of minor league baseball is limited, but that seems like a lot of team switching!

By next year they could have a new team and those Metry shirts would be obsolete![/quote]

there were a lot of affiliates in AAA that changed parent clubs this year. Norfolk was a long-time Mets team and is now the Orioles. Columbus is now DC instead of the Yankees, who are in Scranton/WB instead of the Phillies. And so on.

[quote comment=”126666″][quote comment=”126641″][quote comment=”126635″][quote comment=”126620″][quote comment=”126597″][quote comment=”126593″]
this jersey was never made by Mitchell and Ness. When we were aloud to make his jersey we only made his 1975, 1967 and vested 1964 flannel[/quote]
Reds didn’t wear that number style in 1985[/quote]
So where did this uniform and the M&N label come from?[/quote]

There are TONS of fake M&N’s floating around. I have one, but it wasn’t expensive and the quality is good enough for me.[/quote]
Tons of Fakes out there!![/quote]

Let me show you some real ones that are just flat out wrong…

link – Flat out wrong name style…link

link & link – The front #8 is wrong. The top portion of the 8 should be link than the bottom. link. 1988 was the last year they ever used the larger and symmetrical front numbers.

These are pretty HUGE mistakes if you ask me![/quote]
So glad you pointed that out. The worst part is that they sell jerseys and shirts with those mistakes at The Yard. The old Vertically Arched black font is classic. BTW, I was never a fan of the black Orioles font on the jersey front; glad they went back to all Orange on the front.

sorry, cant get the links right for the last post

[quote comment=”126609″][quote comment=”126604″][quote comment=”126590″][quote comment=”126587″]so I guess we won’t be getting a Celtics game-time shot of #12 standing next to #20 (and vice versa) any time soon, huh? a shame…[/quote]

Very true. The only downfall to the Allan Ray dismissal was no Allan Ray/Ray Allen combination to confuse the hell out of Tommy Heinsohn.

[quote]#5 would harken back to Bill Walton coming to the Celtics for one last hurrah in 1986.[/quote]

Bill Walton wore #5 for the Celtics, but I’m trying to think of the last person to wear #5 for them. I’m pretty sure it was Bagley in the early/mid 90s.[/quote]

Gerald Green wore 5, didn’t he?[/quote]

sure did[/quote]

That shows exactly how much Gerald Green meant to me as a huge Celtics fan. He was the least of my worries in that trade. I wish him well, but just don’t see it in him.

[quote] Pierce while he was a ‘franchise’ player never (until this point) won a championship…

Neither did Ed Macauley (22) or Reggie Lewis (35). [/quote]

Ed Macauley, though, did play years with the Celtics (and very well I might add), and was eventually traded for the link.

Reggie Lewis’ retired number is sort of like that minor league team retiring the number of the coach that died or the Cardinals retiring Pat Tillman’s number.

Plenty of link link have had their numbers retired link.

[quote comment=”126773″]Remember, theres the talk that #5 is cursed… Hopefully KG stays away from it.[/quote]

WHY IS 5 CURSED?

[quote comment=”126820″]link.[/quote]

Wow classy! I can’t stand the Yanks and everything that has to do with them, but this is top-notch.

Compared to the cookie-cutter MTV-generation logos they’ve used for the ASG and playoffs in recent years.

[quote comment=”126820″]link.[/quote]

BEATIFUL!!!

where did the rangers’ new Uuni link go?

[quote comment=”126823″]The only time I wore different teams was when I didn’t have a Bears hat to wear with my jersey. I love wearing hats, especially when at the bar watching Da Bears. The only hat I had to wear that would go with it is my link. However, I will not being doing that anymore since I have link to wear[/quote]
Much love for that expensive hat. I will get one by the time the season starts though.

[quote comment=”126789″]My personal opinion never wear two different teams at the same time even if colors match…. Just plain wrong[/quote]

In New York, with so many teams, I guess I’m just used to it. I’ll see guys with an NY Giants cap and an Yankees jersey and think nothing of it. Same with a Rangers sweater and a Giants cap.

Since I’m talking about the aesthetics, I don’t mind (as long as they are from the same local area).

[quote comment=”126836″]This is what Saltalmacchia will look like in a Rangers uni (sorry couldnt fit his whole name though)

I don’t know how his name will fit on the home vest
link

Blue Alt
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Road
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Home
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Oh crap the links dont show up as they would be customized like I had them but you guys could fill in as much of his name as possible on the links to preview it.

#24 was worn by Martin Prado during his most recent call-up with Atlanta. Guess we’ll find out tonight what number he’s wearing.

Almost bought link at the Cardinals team shop this weekend…it was a patch

[quote comment=”126848″]Eric Gagne to Boston?!! ugh->anything Boston Red Sox. Papelbon gonna ride the pine now? Anyways, I’ve followed MLB since 1985, the year the Blue Jays blew the AL Pennant to the Royals, and I still don’t understand the trading deadline. After July 31st, teams still make trades…? I need an explanation.[/quote]
Today is the “non-waiver trade deadline”. Any trades after today must use the waiver proces, succinctlty described at link Larry Walker got traded to St. Louis on a waiver trade – no other team tried to pick up the contract.

looky looky link and link

[quote comment=”126856″]looky looky link and link[/quote]

If those are real, they look really cheap. That logo looks screen printed. You sure this isn’t just someone’s photoshop job.

[quote comment=”126857″][quote comment=”126856″]looky looky link and link[/quote]

wow, looks pretty legit[/quote]

No it doesn’t.

Marc Stein link it’s going to be #5.

[quote comment=”126858″][quote comment=”126856″]looky looky link and link[/quote]

If those are real, they look really cheap. That logo looks screen printed. You sure this isn’t just someone’s photoshop job.[/quote]
I found them on the Vancouver Canucks official message board. Not 100% sure though. There no sign of RBK anywhere on the jersey.

Celtics confirm Garnett will wear #5

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[quote comment=”126861″][quote comment=”126856″]looky looky link and link[/quote]

Photoshop…. look at the lines, come on guys![/quote]

Yeah. Look at the green on the neckline un-even edge. And the blue at the waist…there’s no color deviation from where the light hits it (highlight vs low-light/shadow). Looks like a mediocre photoshop job to me.

[quote comment=”126840″][quote comment=”126835″][quote comment=”126789″]My personal opinion never wear two different teams at the same time even if colors match…. Just plain wrong[/quote]

In New York, with so many teams, I guess I’m just used to it. I’ll see guys with an NY Giants cap and an Yankees jersey and think nothing of it. Same with a Rangers sweater and a Giants cap.

Since I’m talking about the aesthetics, I don’t mind (as long as they are from the same local area).[/quote]

Why should the teams be from the same local area? Should someone from San Antonio be precluded from wearing a Spurs hat with any non-NBA team’s jacket or shirt, simply because San Antonio lacks an MLB, NFL, NHL or major college team? I say no.[/quote]

Whoa, buddy. This is just my opinion. I never said that I would shoot someone if they didn’t follow my guidlines.

As long as we have someone’s attention at Mitchell and Ness- how about fixing the numbers on the back of your White Sox jerseys’s from the 60’s and early 70’s? Until 1971, the number were small, and the letters in the names quite large. After 71, the red uni’s featured huge numbers on the back, much like the Phillies jerseys from the 50’s-60’s. Also, the red 71 Sox uni’s, and maybe the 72, were flannel- it would be nice to see those available. Only the last 2 (or 3) years of the red design were polyester.
It’s always bugged me that a company that charges $250-350 for a jersey can’t get use the correct sizes and fonts for the names and numbers. If they were really studying old photo’s, the mistakes would have been discovered. Their Fox and Aparicio jerseys are pathetic.

[quote comment=”126710″][quote comment=”126689″][quote comment=”126669″][quote comment=”126642″][quote comment=”126620″][quote comment=”126597″][quote comment=”126593″]
this jersey was never made by Mitchell and Ness. When we were aloud to make his jersey we only made his 1975, 1967 and vested 1964 flannel[/quote]
Reds didn’t wear that number style in 1985[/quote]

So where did this uniform and the M&N label come from?[/quote]

…asked the man from NYC Trademarks.[/quote]

Ah, but you never know if M&N had lost a shipment somewhere.

There’re also grey market goods, which are goods made by a factory outside of their licensing agreements. (A factory can make 1000 Coach purses under an agreement. If they make 1000 more, they are up to Coach standards, but they’re not allowed. They’re not fakes – black-market goods – they’re just created unlawfully.)

So I wasn’t sure if it were just a fake or if M&N had info of something else and were willing to share.[/quote]
[/quote]

Does that mean that all that crazy knock-off crap on Canal St. is actually quality, just unlicensed, stuff?[/quote]

Dan,
I work on Canal Street (west side though, thank god) and I also have a friend who works in Coach (a common knock off victim) and she has said that while there are a bunch of “good fakes” or Gray market products, that for the most part, they are just cheap knock offs. Its fun to ride the subway with her and have her point out all the knock offs.

[quote comment=”126871″][quote comment=”126840″][quote comment=”126835″][quote comment=”126789″]My personal opinion never wear two different teams at the same time even if colors match…. Just plain wrong[/quote]

In New York, with so many teams, I guess I’m just used to it. I’ll see guys with an NY Giants cap and an Yankees jersey and think nothing of it. Same with a Rangers sweater and a Giants cap.

Since I’m talking about the aesthetics, I don’t mind (as long as they are from the same local area).[/quote]

Why should the teams be from the same local area? Should someone from San Antonio be precluded from wearing a Spurs hat with any non-NBA team’s jacket or shirt, simply because San Antonio lacks an MLB, NFL, NHL or major college team? I say no.[/quote]

Whoa, buddy. This is just my opinion. I never said that I would shoot someone if they didn’t follow my guidlines.[/quote]

For me, I’ve never bee a fan of wearing a sports sweatshirt/jersey AND a hat. I usually limit it to one or the other….even when I go to games.

[quote comment=”126875″][quote comment=”126710″][quote comment=”126689″][quote comment=”126669″][quote comment=”126642″][quote comment=”126620″][quote comment=”126597″][quote comment=”126593″]
this jersey was never made by Mitchell and Ness. When we were aloud to make his jersey we only made his 1975, 1967 and vested 1964 flannel[/quote]
Reds didn’t wear that number style in 1985[/quote]

So where did this uniform and the M&N label come from?[/quote]

…asked the man from NYC Trademarks.[/quote]

Ah, but you never know if M&N had lost a shipment somewhere.

There’re also grey market goods, which are goods made by a factory outside of their licensing agreements. (A factory can make 1000 Coach purses under an agreement. If they make 1000 more, they are up to Coach standards, but they’re not allowed. They’re not fakes – black-market goods – they’re just created unlawfully.)

So I wasn’t sure if it were just a fake or if M&N had info of something else and were willing to share.[/quote]
[/quote]

Does that mean that all that crazy knock-off crap on Canal St. is actually quality, just unlicensed, stuff?[/quote]

Dan,
I work on Canal Street (west side though, thank god) and I also have a friend who works in Coach (a common knock off victim) and she has said that while there are a bunch of “good fakes” or Gray market products, that for the most part, they are just cheap knock offs. Its fun to ride the subway with her and have her point out all the knock offs.[/quote]

My wife and I took one of my cousins into the city the last time we were up. My cousin is a Jersey girl…and all she talked about was going to Canal St. Seemed pretty junky to me. But when I read that earlier post…made me wonder. (Not that I could tell a real from a knock-off if my life depended on it..)

So glad you pointed that out. The worst part is that they sell jerseys and shirts with those mistakes at The Yard. The old Vertically Arched black font is classic. BTW, I was never a fan of the black Orioles font on the jersey front; glad they went back to all Orange on the front.

SNY (the Mets channel) replayed Game 4 of the 1969 World Series last night (a game I attended as a 5 year old). When George Bamberger went to the mound, I could not take my eyes off of the screen. The uniform was a thing of beauty: The vertically arched “Bamberger” making nearly a full semi-circle combined with the black/white/orange striped stirrups.

link

NYC // 2008 MLB All-Star Game logo unveiled. Nice.

[quote comment=”126772″][quote comment=”126586″][quote comment=”126579″][quote comment=”126575″][quote comment=”126568″][quote comment=”126566″][quote comment=”126561″]Kevin Garnett is apparently headed to the Celtics (who are giving up everything but Danny Ainge’s first born to get him).

But the question on my mind…what number will Garnett wear? 21 is retired (Bill Sharman) and the number Garnett wore at Farragut Academy (34) is taken by Paul Pierce…[/quote]
And he wore #10 for international play , but that’s link also. Maybe he could take the #7 vacated by Al Jefferson, whom he was traded for. He could also go with 71, which, if you kind of squint, looks like 21.[/quote]

maybe 12… 21 backwards…[/quote]
Allan Ray (not Ray Allen #20) currently wears 12.

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Of course with 4, 5, 7, 30, & 50 being vacated by guys going to Minnesota, some numbers open up. I think he’d look good in a single digit.[/quote]

Allan Ray, thank the good Lord, was waived a week ago. He got a two year deal in Italy. If Garnett wears #7 it will ruffle my feathers a bit. I need time to get over trading away the best young post player in the past decade.

I hope Garnett chooses 5. We haven’t had much luck recently with #12 (Ricky Davis, Allan Ray) or #45 (Raef LaFrentz). As far as I can remember there hasn’t been a #5 since John Bagley. I’m looking that up now, but any help would be great.

I’m hoping for as much karma as I can with this huge lack of bench the Celts are now dealing with.[/quote]
#5 would harken back to Bill Walton coming to the Celtics for one last hurrah in 1986.[/quote]

Lets Not Forget link or Ron Mercer link

Celtics’ team shop has Garnett’s jersey for sale with #5 link

[quote comment=”126785″][quote comment=”126783″]
I would consider it a faux paux if it isn’t two teams from the same metro area wih the same color combo.
For instance…

Met’s cap and Islanders sweater = Good
Diamondbaacks cap with Tampa Bay Lightning sweater = bad.[/quote]

That’s more reason why all the teams from the same metro area should be wearing the same colour schemes.

The Lightning, Devil Rays and Buccaneers have totally different colour schemes.

Eliminate the Vegas gold from the Penguins and bring back the yellow![/quote]

I’m interested to know what color scheme you think all 8 New York area teams should wear.

[quote comment=”126902″]correct that, 9 teams.[/quote]

I wrote 8 earlier too, did you forget the Devils as well?

[quote comment=”126900″][quote comment=”126785″][quote comment=”126783″]
I would consider it a faux paux if it isn’t two teams from the same metro area wih the same color combo.
For instance…

Met’s cap and Islanders sweater = Good
Diamondbaacks cap with Tampa Bay Lightning sweater = bad.[/quote]

That’s more reason why all the teams from the same metro area should be wearing the same colour schemes.

The Lightning, Devil Rays and Buccaneers have totally different colour schemes.

Eliminate the Vegas gold from the Penguins and bring back the yellow![/quote]

I’m interested to know what color scheme you think all 8 New York area teams should wear.[/quote]

Since they occupy several realms of the sporting world, I’ll break this down nicely for you.

Mets: blue, orange and, white.
Islanders: navy blue, orange, and white.
Rangers: blue, red, and white.
Yankees: navy blue and white.
Knicks: blue, orange, and white.
Giants: blue, red, and white.
Jets: green and white.

Aside from the Jets, there are enough crossover colours from the four major pro sports teams in NYC to make colour combinations.

Possible leak of the Dallas Stars jersey – or a good photoshop –

I like it – in a 50’s retro sort of way…

[quote comment=”126859″][quote comment=”126853″][quote comment=”126848″]Eric Gagne to Boston?!! ugh->anything Boston Red Sox. Papelbon gonna ride the pine now? Anyways, I’ve followed MLB since 1985, the year the Blue Jays blew the AL Pennant to the Royals, and I still don’t understand the trading deadline. After July 31st, teams still make trades…? I need an explanation.[/quote]
Today is the “non-waiver trade deadline”. Any trades after today must use the waiver proces, succinctlty described at link Larry Walker got traded to St. Louis on a waiver trade – no other team tried to pick up the contract.[/quote]
Is it true if a team trades for a player after August that this player cannot play for that team if that team were to make the post season?[/quote]

False. The deadline to set post-season rosters is August 31. If you make an aforementioned waiver trade prior to 8/31, that player can be on your post-season roster.

KG was holding a # 5 jersey at his Celtic news conference.

[quote comment=”126903″][quote comment=”126902″]correct that, 9 teams.[/quote]

I wrote 8 earlier too, did you forget the Devils as well?[/quote]
LOL yes I did.

Teebz, thanks for your answer. The Knicks should “Ditch the Black” as well.

Sorry, guys. End of link?

[quote comment=”126910″][quote comment=”126908″]
Since they occupy several realms of the sporting world, I’ll break this down nicely for you.

Mets: blue, orange and, white.
Islanders: navy blue, orange, and white.
Rangers: blue, red, and white.
Yankees: navy blue and white.
Knicks: blue, orange, and white.
Giants: blue, red, and white.
Jets: green and white.

Aside from the Jets, there are enough crossover colours from the four major pro sports teams in NYC to make colour combinations.[/quote]

Oh, and as for the Jersey kids…

Devils: red, brown, white, and black.
Nets: some shade of blue, white, and red.

If you want more…

Bills: blue, red, and white.
Sabres: navy blue, yellow, and white.
Rochester Americans: red, white, and blue.
Syracuse Crunch: red, white, and navy blue.
Syracuse Orange: orange, navy blue, and white.

I can go deeper into the minor leagues and colleges if you like.[/quote]
Don’t hate on my Red Bulls! Navy, White and, erm, Red

[quote comment=”126928″]KG was holding a # 5 jersey at his Celtic news conference.[/quote]

It’s officially listed on the Celtics’ NBA.com page: KG will indeed wear #5, last worn by Gerald Green (one of the menagerie he was traded for) and most notably by Bill Walton, John Thompson, John “Family Size” Bagley, and Ron Mercer. KG’s usual 21 is retired for Bill Sharman.

Toronto Blue Jays pitcher Jeremy Accardo is currently using a completely blue glove. I can’t figure out how long he’s been suing it but in a photo from May he had a black glove.

[quote comment=”126958″]

Agreed..I hate all things NY, but that is a sweet logo.

The 2008 All-Star Game logo makes we want to drop $5 bucks on a race horse…

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Hopefully it comes out well on the patch. If so, I just might spring for an authentic. Wait and see…

REGARDING THE STARS MOCK-UPS:

All the ones that have been up here look very familiar to me. I finally realized that the Dallas AAA Stars. the Midget level youth team affiliated with the stars wears jerseys like that i remember because we played them. I cant find pics because the new season hasent started and the site is being updated but i think thats where alot of these mock-ups are from.

[quote comment=”126820″]link.[/quote]
On balance, I like the logo. But as Paul pointed out in a column a few weeks ago, I’m not certain this will translate well into a patch. The serifs on “All-Star Game” probably will disappear in the stitchwork. Sigh.

[quote comment=”126984″][quote comment=”126744″]check out this 1963 Ed Lopat game used jersey on ebay, why does he have his first name on the back?

link

After seeing this item I have real doubts about a “Certificate of Authenticity from the Grey Flannel Gallery”. Note Grey Flannel Gallery is the name of the store. No way this uni is the real deal. Look closely at the Wilson tag (I think the KC A’s unis were McAuliffe anyway) and you’ll see it is not even made of flannel. Looks knit to me. So much for the 99.9% Positive Feedback. Any other opinions?[/quote]

Yeah, I’m not buying it either.

[quote comment=”126643″][quote comment=”126613″][quote comment=”126593″]
this jersey was never made by Mitchell and Ness. When we were aloud to make his jersey we only made his 1975, 1967 and vested 1964 flannel[/quote]

I was in Cooperstown this past weekend and got to see a million M&N throwbacks. It was nice to actually get to see them in person as opposed to just online, but I was very disappointed in how many errors there were with a lot of them….wrong size numbers, wrong style names, and wrong style numbers. I would think that there were people there sort of jersey “fact checking” these before they hit production.[/quote]

They refer to loads of photos and make sure the jerseys are accurate. If you’re relying solely on your memory of the uniforms to chastise them, I suggest you double check them. Chances are better that you were remembering incorrectly.[/quote]

I’m not so sure of that. Most of us have excellent memories of our childhood team’s unis. Most of us can spot something wrong in a heartbeat, and the most minor differences are glaring. Two M&N Red Sox unis, jumped out at me. The first, which I own, and had purchased for me at the M&N store was the ’67 home. I immediately was disappointed that the piping on the sleves are about 3/4″ above the break of the sleeve. In actuality the piping was at the break. I own game worn ’66 pants, and the material in the pants is significantly lighter than the winter coat like flannel in the jersey. To their credit , they nailed the font. The ’75 Sox collar lowers to a sharp point, but the M&N is clearly rounded. With all the gameworn flannel unis out there, one would think M&N would put their creation next to an authentic one, and see for themselves.

[quote comment=”126881″][quote comment=”126750″][quote]
Also, why do you assume that Torre’s #6 will be retired? Joe McCarthy’s number isn’t retired and he has managed more games, won more games, has a higher winning percentage, won 2 more pennants and 3 more World Series titles than Torre has and his number isn’t retired.[/quote]

Joe McCarthy never wore a number with the Yankees, though he does have a plaque in Monument Park which is the same thing.[/quote]

No, it is not.

Lefty Gomez, pitcher 1930-42, plaque dedicated August 1, 1987. His number 11 has not been retired.
Allie Reynolds, pitcher 1947-54, plaque dedicated August 27, 1989. His number 22 has not been retired.

There’s a link to the post by the way. I don’t know if it’ll work, but at least there’s evidence.

[quote comment=”127000″][quote comment=”126984″][quote comment=”126744″]check out this 1963 Ed Lopat game used jersey on ebay, why does he have his first name on the back?

link

After seeing this item I have real doubts about a “Certificate of Authenticity from the Grey Flannel Gallery”. Note Grey Flannel Gallery is the name of the store. No way this uni is the real deal. Look closely at the Wilson tag (I think the KC A’s unis were McAuliffe anyway) and you’ll see it is not even made of flannel. Looks knit to me. So much for the 99.9% Positive Feedback. Any other opinions?[/quote]

the link says its a spring training jersey,perhaps they are different than the regular seasion

For everyone knocking M&N on here and complaining that they “can’t seem to get it right”. They provide an incredible service to sports fans by keeping alive old jerseys and players at a level of quality you would never find from Reebok or Majestic/VF. I’m sure some errors are mistakes, some are probably related to production difficulties, and others are related to the difficulty in finding clear historical records. As to the idea that M&N would extend production outside of their license, I find that preposterous. One violation would be the end of their license with a league which would be a massive blow to their business. I think they’ve got way more sense than that. If it looks like a knockoff, it’s a knockoff.