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Greetings from St. Louis, where I had a pretty amazing day yesterday. Took a preliminary tour of Liebe Athletic Lettering (I’ll be back there today with with an ESPN.com video crew), which was pretty mind-blowing — here’s a small taste of what I saw. If today’s video shoot ends up documenting even a fraction of the stuff I saw yesterday, we’ll end up with loads of great material. Then I got a personal tour of the Cardinals Hall of Fame and Busch Stadium from assistant curator Brian Finch (here’s a taste of that). And then I met up with a small but enthusiastic group of readers for a very entertaining Uni Watch gathering, the highlight of which was a show-and-tell session featuring the most incredible set of obsessive-compulsive uniform drawings I’ve ever seen (I’ll end up doing a full blog entry on these illustrations and the guy who created them, but this will give you an idea).

I’ll have more to say about all of that later on. But meanwhile: Last week SI.com ran a series of “Best Athletes by Number” photo galleries (they’re here, here, and here). Contrary to what a few of you thought, they didn’t rip off this idea from me — I’ve done plenty of articles about uni numbers but never a “best by number” column. But even if they had stolen the idea, it would be worth it, because SI’s photo galleries tend to be quite good, with large photos that most of us haven’t seen very often. In the case of these numerical breakdowns, I don’t really care about SI’s qualitative rankings (does it really matter who was the “best” player to wearing No. 37, especially when the candidates come from different sports?), but this batch of 101 photos featured an unusually high number of notable uni-related details. Por ejemplo:

  • I’ve always loved this photo of Babe Ruth. Look how trim he was! Also, note the belt buckle squarely at 12 o’clock, a fairly uncommon sight for that era.
  • Totally digging the stirrups here (big surprise). But note the black/white/gold striping on the cuffs and waistband — wouldn’t it have been better if they’d been gold on top, instead of on the bottom, to match the hose?
  • We’ve all seen Gale Sayers’s cheapo plastic facemask before, but it’s never looked more like a back-yard kiddie accessory than it does here.
  • You’ve heard of high whites? How about all whites? Dig the Steelers-patterned wristbands, too.
  • I was struck by how many of the NFL photos showed players loaded up with yards of tape on their arms and hands. You don’t see that anymore.
  • The stirrups here are so dead-on perfect that it’s easy to overlook the yellow catcher’s gear — yowza! Must have been the Brewers, right?
  • Great view here of Willie Lanier’s extra-padded helmet (which always kinda looks like a horn to me). And as long as we’re talking about the Chiefs, look how small Buck Buchanan’s uni number is here.
  • Talk about a leotard effect — dark pants, dark socks, and dark shoes with dark laces. Please, gimme just a little contrast, will ya?
  • We’ve often discussed Warrick Dunn’s habit of wearing a gold chain on the gridiron. Turns out he’s not the only one to have done that.
  • How great is the little “U of M” imprimatur here?
  • I’ve always found the close proximity of stripes and checkboard here to be slightly disconcerting.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Michigan is switching from Nike to Adidas, and I’m so broken up about it that I actually walk around laughing. … The Kansas City T-Bones staged their second annual Redneck Night on Saturday, featuring, um, inspired uniforms (additional shots here and here). Looks like the guy on the far left was cheating by wearing a cap-sleeved undershirt. … Interesting All-Star Game memory from Doug Simpson, who writes: “I don’t have a pic, but in 1998 Jeff Shaw was traded from the Reds to the Dodgers during the All-Star Break. His first pitch in a Dodgers uniform was in the All-Star Game. Also, Cincinnati was left with no representation, since Shaw was their only invitee.” … Yesterday I published Richard Craig‘s All-Star Game FanFest report; here’s another one, this time from Brandon Davis, covering completely different ground — good stuff. … Would you believe that the American and National Leagues used to have separate resin bags (N.L., A.L.)? Daily News writer Jesse Spector took those photos at Cooperstown, plus his blog has recently featured good uni-related commentary from MLB players: Chris Duncan on pants and socks (scroll down to the bottom), and Justin Morneau on his NHL undershirt (ditto). … Think A-Rod would’ve slid at home if he hadn’t been wearing those country club white shoes? … The Sharks will reveal an updated logo later this month.

 
  
 
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    My wife even commented on how bad A-Rod’s white cleats/shoes looked…as the words left her mouth, a wide grin came across my face….”she has now been sucked into the world of uni-obsession…excellent”

    Something else I’d never seen before: Check out the little “Bengals” wordmark on Anthony Muñoz’s socks (or is it on the tape?).

    It’s under the (clear) tape. For a season or two, IIRC, NFL team socks had the team’s wordmark on them.

    Not sure if everyone has seen this yet, but Budweiser is likely done with Dale Jr. Pepsi and Mountain Dew may appear on his car instead:

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    [quote comment=”116885″]My wife even commented on how bad A-Rod’s white cleats/shoes looked…as the words left her mouth, a wide grin came across my face….”she has now been sucked into the world of uni-obsession…excellent”[/quote]

    Same here….plus my wife wanted to know why David Wright was wearing spats

    The stirrups are so dead-on perfect that it’s easy to overlook the yellow catcher’s gear — yowza! Must have been the Brewers, right?

    I was going to say it could have been the Mariners, but the Mariners didn’t have striped cuffs in that period (the White Sox only wore those for 4 years). Plus that catcher is definitely B.J. Surhoff.

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    [quote comment=”116889″]Not sure if everyone has seen this yet, but Budweiser is likely done with Dale Jr.

    Pepsi and Mountain Dew may appear on his car instead:

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    I thought Sony was going to sponsor Jr. I know there was a story about it a few weeks ago. Is Sony just going to be an associate sponsor or what?

    Arkansas Tech is considering changing the name of their sports team. Apparently, having different names for the men’s (Wonder Boys) and women’s (Golden Suns) team was getting confusing. Early candidates in the online survey: Comets, Copperheads, Sharks and Terrapins.

    Also, another SI.com photo gallery: goalie masks.
    link

    Sorry I missed the gathering last night. I’m still bummed about that. I did get to watch most of the All-Star Game, and I noticed when Jr. threw A-rod out trying to score from 2nd that A-rods’ cleats looked like over-sized clown shoes! They really looked too big for his feet!!

    Oh, and the big talk here is him La Russa did not play his only Cardinal last night when it was bases loaded and the game on the line…I look at it as one less uniform to wash…sorry Albert…

    A-Rod never wears white shoes during the regular season, but he did wear them at last year’s all-star game as well. If you go
    here:
    The first two photos in the gallery clearly show him in white shoes.
    I couldn’t find any shots from previous years, but maybe this is an All-Star tradition of his?

    [quote comment=”116895″]Sorry I missed the gathering last night. I’m still bummed about that. I did get to watch most of the All-Star Game, and I noticed when Jr. threw A-rod out trying to score from 2nd that A-rods’ cleats looked like over-sized clown shoes! They really looked too big for his feet!!

    Oh, and the big talk here is him La Russa did not play his only Cardinal last night when it was bases loaded and the game on the line…I look at it as one less uniform to wash…sorry Albert…[/quote]

    I, too, live in St. Louis and can’t tell you how bummed I was to miss last night. The ONE NIGHT in the past 4 months I had to work. Nice timing.

    If I HAD gone last night, I would have worn a new find that I’m hoping to find out if it’s A) a not-so-uncommon oddity, or B) A pot of gold: While cleaning out my father’s apartment last week, I found a “Chicago Cubs/Wrigley Field” shirt with the 2003 World Series logo. Could this shirt have been released maybe 5 outs too early? Or, since it makes no mention of “National League Champions” or other type brag, is it a non-issue? I’ll try to take a picture later and post it to see if anyone has any further commentary.

    Yes, Jeff Shaw went from the Reds to Dodgers during the All-Star break in 1998, but the Reds did have Bret Boone named a reserve to the team, so they were represented.

    [quote comment=”116892″]The stirrups are so dead-on perfect that it’s easy to overlook the yellow catcher’s gear — yowza! Must have been the Brewers, right?

    I was going to say it could have been the Mariners, but the Mariners didn’t have striped cuffs in that period (the White Sox only wore those for 4 years). Plus that catcher is definitely B.J. Surhoff.

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    You beat me to it. Surhoff was known for his over-the-top catching gear back when he was still played behind the plate. I never read any interviews with him in which he explained why chose to wear such in-your-face equipment.

    Jim, we need a picture of that shirt! That would have been awesome to see! I was trying to figure out which of my Astros hats to wear…not nearly as cool as that shirt.

    I am so jealous about your trip to Liebe Athletic Lettering!!! I bet that was the coolest thing ever! I can’t wait to see the video!

    I volunteer to go be your correspondent for any shoot you can’t make it to in the future!!!

    Talk about a leotard effect — dark pants, dark socks, and dark shoes with dark laces. Please, gimme just a little contrast, will ya?

    FWIW, black and white film, especially older formulations, capture colors in different (and sometimes bizarre) ways. For example, some early films were only sensitive to the blue end of the light spectrum – so blues appeared to be white (very low contrast between the two), and reds appeared to be dark.

    More modern B&W films are sensitive to more of the color spectrum, but very different colors could still end up having the same tone/shade in B&W. So…it’s not always easy to figure out what the real-life appearance was from B&W.

    ed

    Looking again at that satin Cards jersey, wasn’t that for night games so the fans could see the players better in the poor field lights? Interesting how the birds on the bat look a lot like the Turn-Ahead-the-Clock cyber cardinals…

    …and that zipper is huge!

    Interesting comment from Chris Duncan on why no one wears the high cuffs on the Cardinals. I always thought it was because it was considered a ‘minor league look’, required to be worn by all from their AAA team down to rookie league. The only ones in StL who’ve worn real stirrups in the past 2 seasons were both pitchers (Jason Marquis, Anthony Reyes) The official standard issue socks have the knitted-in stirrup design [same as minor leaguers]. Does anyone wanting real stirrups have to buy their own, get special orders?
    A-Rod’s white shoes DID look clownish. Jeter at least had co-ordinating gray ones. Last year several guys wore special white “All Star” shoes–didn’t see it as much this year.

    I never knew that Liebe was in Chesterfield, MO. I probably drive past it at least once a week! Noticed on their color swatches that Cardinal Red looked darker than what the StL Cards use…but it might just be my moniter…

    anyone notice how some players wore cool-base and some wore regular jerseys? The galleries on mlb.com show some of these. I think Orlando Hudson was one of the cool-base wearers.

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    Yikes, when did goalie masks start being so detailed like that. Looks like the people who used to style vans in the 70s and 80s still have work.

    I can see the fun in breaking out the white shoes once a year, but not when then look as rediculous as A-Rod’s did last night. Pujols, by contrast, looked pretty good last year.

    Griffey’s red shoes looked great last night. The Reds usually wear black.

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    I don’t remember exactly what it looked like, but I also recall seeing a “Cubs 2003 World Series” shirt for sale at a Kohl’s store. I forget the exact date, but it was when the Cubs had 3 wins and it looked like a 4th was inevitable. As a White Sox fan, how I wish I’d bought the shirt now…

    Black socks with white shoes is a look reserved for elderly men wearing plaid bermuda shorts.

    [quote comment=”116912″]Interesting comment from Chris Duncan on why no one wears the high cuffs on the Cardinals. I always thought it was because it was considered a ‘minor league look’, required to be worn by all from their AAA team down to rookie league. The only ones in StL who’ve worn real stirrups in the past 2 seasons were both pitchers (Jason Marquis, Anthony Reyes) The official standard issue socks have the knitted-in stirrup design [same as minor leaguers]. Does anyone wanting real stirrups have to buy their own, get special orders?[/quote]
    Okay, finally a logical reason for the “Pajama” look… if the Cards’ Hall of Fame still has their Lou Brock “record stolen base” exhibit, Paul could comment on just how torn-up Lou’s pants were! They’d been re-stitched to repair tears so much, they looked like baseball pants for Frankenstein’s monster! (“That’s ‘FRONK-en-steen’!”)

    The answer? Give “Young Dunc” and his mates REAL link to protect those legs!

    [quote comment=”116912″]Interesting comment from Chris Duncan on why no one wears the high cuffs on the Cardinals. I always thought it was because it was considered a ‘minor league look’, required to be worn by all from their AAA team down to rookie league. The only ones in StL who’ve worn real stirrups in the past 2 seasons were both pitchers (Jason Marquis, Anthony Reyes) The official standard issue socks have the knitted-in stirrup design [same as minor leaguers]. Does anyone wanting real stirrups have to buy their own, get special orders?[/quote]
    Okay, finally a logical reason for the “Pajama” look… if the Cards’ Hall of Fame still has their Lou Brock “record stolen base” exhibit, Paul could comment on just how torn-up Lou’s pants were! They’d been re-stitched to repair tears so much, they looked like baseball pants for Frankenstein’s monster! (“That’s ‘FRONK-en-steen’!”)

    The answer? Give “Young Dunc” and his mates REAL link to protect those legs!

    I’m much more of a Nike fan (shoe-wise especially) than adidas, so as a Michigan fan, I’m somewhat disappointed. Obviously, adidas isn’t stupid enough to mess with the home uniforms for Michigan, I just hope they keep the away unis simple as well. While I’m not a fan of the very noticeable differing materials on the away jersey, I have grown to like the wrap around maize piping since it isn’t over the top. I just don’t wanna see some forced three stripe design on the whites now that adidas is in charge. I also don’t wanna see them try and use some kind of side paneling like they did with Notre Dame’s away jerseys a couple years back.

    I guess it makes sense with the three stripes on the helmet and the three stripes of adidas though.

    It’s pretty likely the soccer uniforms will be a downgrade though, as adidas has been put to shame in the last couple years designing soccer unis compared to Nike’s work.

    [quote comment=”116904″][quote comment=”116892″]The stirrups are so dead-on perfect that it’s easy to overlook the yellow catcher’s gear — yowza! Must have been the Brewers, right?

    I was going to say it could have been the Mariners, but the Mariners didn’t have striped cuffs in that period (the White Sox only wore those for 4 years). Plus that catcher is definitely B.J. Surhoff.

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    link[/quote]

    You beat me to it. Surhoff was known for his over-the-top catching gear back when he was still played behind the plate. I never read any interviews with him in which he explained why chose to wear such in-your-face equipment.[/quote]

    Yeah, unfortunately I barely remember such things. Ilived in Milwaukee in 1987 but moved in August to Massachusetts, where Brewers games were few and far between to behold. IT was during this period that I became a Cubs fan, since we had WGN out here at the time.

    It still weirds me out to see those two teams play each other. It’s just not right. My repeated letters to the commissioner’s office to fix the number of teams per league disparity and scheduling issues go unheeded…

    FROM YESTERDAY:

    [quote comment=”116522″][quote comment=”116503″]Not all of us love the high pants and stirrup look….. long live the pajama pants![/quote]

    I would have to say… some of those guys look link with high cuffs! While I love high cuff, they look much better with stirrups instead of hoisery![/quote]

    He looks so stoopid cuz his pants are too tight…they need to be link

    [quote comment=”116934″]FROM YESTERDAY:

    [quote comment=”116522″][quote comment=”116503″]Not all of us love the high pants and stirrup look….. long live the pajama pants![/quote]

    I would have to say… some of those guys look link with high cuffs! While I love high cuff, they look much better with stirrups instead of hoisery![/quote]

    He looks so stoopid cuz his pants are too tight…they need to be link[/quote]
    Clemens’ entire uniform is 3 sizes too small.

    [quote comment=”116892″]The stirrups are so dead-on perfect that it’s easy to overlook the yellow catcher’s gear — yowza! Must have been the Brewers, right?

    I was going to say it could have been the Mariners, but the Mariners didn’t have striped cuffs in that period (the White Sox only wore those for 4 years). Plus that catcher is definitely B.J. Surhoff.

    link

    link[/quote]

    Hey tape,
    How do you still have access to the dressed to the nines exhibit? I thought they took it down. It would be awesome if it was still available.

    I don’t quite understand Paul’s “walking around laughing” comment. Whether you like Nike or not, adidas will almost certainly try to put 3 stripes on the Michigan jerseys, as they did with Nebraska and UCLA. Either way, I am sure it will be far larger than the small swoosh at the bottom of the v-neck.

    Hating Nike while rooting for adidas is a bit like hating the Yankees but rooting for the RedSox. I understand the feeling, but it is hardly rooting for the underdog. Root for Russell or New Balance if you want to do that.

    [quote comment=”116946″]Notice the link that Babe Pinelli used in 1956…and only balls and strikes too–no outs..[/quote]

    For comparison, link is the one I currently use….

    Just an FYI for hockey fans- the 07-08 sched. is gonna be released today around 2 o’clock.

    A few thoughts.

    1 – The SI goalie mask gallery rocks. I’m a goalie and think goalie mask art should be displayed in art musium. When I had my mask painted I thought long and hard about what I wanted on it, wanting my mask to blend will with our sweaters. I’ll try and get a picture of the outcome later.

    2 – The shot of Fisk with his perfect stirups, well, I am a Cubs fan and hate the Sox, but always thought the unis used in that photo were one of their better ones.

    3 – Lastly, the picture of Red Granve in his unitard look. The earlier post was right about the older film not showing tones well. From seeing photos from musiums, I think the cleats were black, socks navy and the pants brown. I could be wrong though.

    It’s so weird how the Giants have a kind of tanish home jersey while all other teams have pure white jerseys

    – A-Rod’s shoes were awful. White shoes just don’t look right with any team but the A’s (and they only look right there because I’ve never seen different).

    – Didn’t notice Junior’s red shoes, but I did notice his red sleeves, wristbands, and batting gloves. Single color from mid-biceps to fingertips. Also reminded me what a fan of the Reds duds I am. Sheer excellence.

    – How about Ichiro accepting the MVP honors while in street clothes? I wish he’d been in uniform for that kind of thing.

    – Glad to see the Mets players wore the pinstripes and blue hats. I wondered what they would have looked like if they’d worn different combinations…

    – Those minor league Redneck uniforms are amazing! Reminds me of “Major League”: “We wear caps and sleeves at this level, son!”

    I love the irony that link shows a little stirrup. How much better would the players look even if they showed that tiny amount?? Even better, how ’bout this???

    [quote comment=”116955″]Anyone know what this guy is wearing link?

    there are more pics later in the gallery too.[/quote]

    I’m guessing the black thing around his mid-torso is a heart-rate monitor. but the blue thing wrapped around his shoulders? ya got me…

    A great upclose example of the link on Oakland’s batting helmet.

    It’s different than the one on the hat and logo. Always has been. The seriph is blocky, like the pre-1973 “A.”

    Why won’t anyone else recognize this? Is it just me?

    I need an explanation. It’s been bothering me since 1981!

    [quote comment=”116955″]Anyone know what this guy is wearing link?

    there are more pics later in the gallery too.[/quote]

    maybe it’s something to control his swing? I dunno, I’ve played fh for ten years and I’ve never seen anything like that…I’ll see if I can find it on one of the fh websites.

    [quote comment=”116894″]Arkansas Tech is considering changing the name of their sports team. Apparently, having different names for the men’s (Wonder Boys) and women’s (Golden Suns) team was getting confusing. Early candidates in the online survey: Comets, Copperheads, Sharks and Terrapins.

    Also, another SI.com photo gallery: goalie masks.
    link

    WOW – Wade Dubliewicz has Captain Fishstick on his mask!! As a Ranger fan, I’m LOVING this – we always need Captain Fishstick SOMEWHERE!!

    i love how the players take license with their footwear during the all star game (not just in the mlb, but in the nba as well).

    the white (or alternate color) look is really sharp when you know its just for that one game.

    some highlights…

    griff’s red nike griffey max
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    a-rod’s white nike shox a rod
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    ichiro’s gray asics
    link

    chase’s adidas
    link

    which were the same worn by
    dan haren
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    and vlad (no pic)

    an nl collage
    with reyes in (what i think is) the new nike five tool pro (worn by many last night- hunter, holliday, rios, etc), and david wright in his signature shoe
    link

    an al collage
    with vlad’s adidas, papi’s pe gray, and what looks to be a gray pe cleated jumpman jeter vital
    link

    say all you want about the mays tributes…
    growing up i was a baseball history junkie and even still to this day, i wish i would have been able to watch him play on a daily basis, especially at the top of his game…

    [quote comment=”116956″]I love the irony that link shows a little stirrup. How much better would the players look even if they showed that tiny amount?? Even better, how ’bout link

    That uniform policy clearly states:

    “Pants cannot extend over the top of the heel of the shoe…”

    Doesn’t this make the pajama pants against the policy?

    It also states that under shirts have to be “of a standard club color”. Wouldn’t that also make the camo undershirt that Mike Timlin wears against the policy? I guess whoever controls these things doesn’t feel like enforcing the policy.

    “I don’t have a pic, but in 1998 Jeff Shaw was traded from the Reds to the Dodgers during the All-Star Break. His first pitch in a Dodgers uniform was in the All-Star Game. Also, Cincinnati was left with no representation, since Shaw was their only invitee.”

    Shaw was traded on July 4 that year, the weekend before the All Star Break. And as someone pointed out above, Bret Boone of the Reds was on the roster. He did not play in the game though.

    [quote comment=”116954]- Glad to see the Mets players wore the pinstripes and blue hats. I wondered what they would have looked like if they’d worn different combinations…[/quote]

    I totally agree. Any true Mets fan can appreciate this, considering how often they stray from their original home set of blue on blue w/pinstripes. I remember last year’s ASG being disgusted with the all-white alternate home uni’s in Pittsburgh.

    Which reminds me… does anyone have any clue as to why MLB broke the solemn tradition of alternating ASG venues AL to NL? Pittsburgh to San Fran? Still haven’t found the answer to that one yet…

    Did anyone else notice the blinking Nike logo on the left side of the page on the UM-Adidas story? It was a part of their “rotating” ad for their corporate partners. I got a chuckle out of that.

    [quote comment=”116971″][quote comment=”116956″]I love the irony that link shows a little stirrup. How much better would the players look even if they showed that tiny amount?? Even better, how ’bout link

    That uniform policy clearly states:

    “Pants cannot extend over the top of the heel of the shoe…”

    Doesn’t this make the pajama pants against the policy?

    It also states that under shirts have to be “of a standard club color”. Wouldn’t that also make the camo undershirt that Mike Timlin wears against the policy? I guess whoever controls these things doesn’t feel like enforcing the policy.[/quote]

    Yes, it would be against the policy, which is what I was trying to say yesterday.

    Sometimes I wish the Majors enforced their own dress code the way the NFL does.

    [quote comment=”116949″][quote comment=”116946″]Notice the link that Babe Pinelli used in 1956…and only balls and strikes too–no outs..[/quote]

    For comparison, link is the one I currently use….[/quote]

    I found the link that are generally link. I always used the 2nd one when I did Little Leauge. But that white indicator was the 1st thing I noticed in that picture.

    Boston Nick – I would be more worried about Nike changing your unis than Adidas. Then again you never know. As a Texas fan, I have always wondered if Nike was going to try to get us to change up. I hope not. Though I could go for some link (they get worse when the players sweat).

    [quote comment=”116965″][quote comment=”116894″]Arkansas Tech is considering changing the name of their sports team. Apparently, having different names for the men’s (Wonder Boys) and women’s (Golden Suns) team was getting confusing. Early candidates in the online survey: Comets, Copperheads, Sharks and Terrapins.

    Also, another SI.com photo gallery: goalie masks.
    link

    WOW – Wade Dubliewicz has Captain Fishstick on his mask!! As a Ranger fan, I’m LOVING this – we always need Captain Fishstick SOMEWHERE!![/quote]

    I’m loving Miael Tellqvist and his color-appropriate Swedish crowns on the chin. Clutch heritage shout out.

    And my own Flyguy’s Antero Niitymaki. Gangster on the side. Sweet.

    Seems like Michigan, in addition to the extra value from the new deal, got tired of being part of Team Nike ™:

    “Martin specifically pointed to adidas’ agreement to provide on-site support and a pledge for unique sideline apparel as key factors in the agreement.”

    [quote comment=”116973″]
    Which reminds me… does anyone have any clue as to why MLB broke the solemn tradition of alternating ASG venues AL to NL? Pittsburgh to San Fran? Still haven’t found the answer to that one yet…[/quote]

    They want to showcase new stadiums, and have somewhat of a backlog. Plus, they want to do New Yankee Stadium in 2009 and (I think) New Shea in 2010. So it was either pick a less attractive AL this year, Pit next year, then Yankee would be a year “late”.

    [quote comment=”116976″][quote comment=”116949″][quote comment=”116946″]Notice the link that Babe Pinelli used in 1956…and only balls and strikes too–no outs..[/quote]

    For comparison, link is the one I currently use….[/quote]

    I found the link that are generally link. I always used the 2nd one when I did Little Leauge. But that white indicator was the 1st thing I noticed in that picture.

    Boston Nick – I would be more worried about Nike changing your unis than Adidas. Then again you never know. As a Texas fan, I have always wondered if Nike was going to try to get us to change up. I hope not. Though I could go for some link (they get worse when the players sweat).[/quote]

    I actually do think that both companies have generally shown decent restraint when it comes to bigtime traditional schools (like Michigan, Texas, Notre Dame, Ohio State etc). But if a school doesn’t have that same tradition, both Nike and Adidas seem to go a little too wild for my tastes (NC State, Oregon, Oregon State).

    Man I had like 10 things to comment on until I looked at that goalie mask slideshow. Does anyone else have a grade A hardon for masks? I’m lucky enough to have 2 in my collection. Its just too bad they don’t have any old masks on there like link, link, link, or link. I love the OutKast ATL shield on Lehtonon’s chin, the Jason on Bacashihua’s, and of course, YODA on the back of Dubie’s!

    BJ Surhoff’s yellow gear is awesome. And, yes, the satin Cards jersey was for the lights. The link did the same thing in the late 40s.

    [quote comment=”116982″][quote comment=”116973″]
    Which reminds me… does anyone have any clue as to why MLB broke the solemn tradition of alternating ASG venues AL to NL? Pittsburgh to San Fran? Still haven’t found the answer to that one yet…[/quote]

    They want to showcase new stadiums, and have somewhat of a backlog. Plus, they want to do New Yankee Stadium in 2009 and (I think) New Shea in 2010. So it was either pick a less attractive AL this year, Pit next year, then Yankee would be a year “late”.[/quote]

    They aren’t doing new Yankee Stadium, they’re doing old Yankee Stadium next year, 2008.

    [quote comment=”116985″]I love the OutKast ATL shield on Lehtonon’s chin[/quote]

    But the best part of that mask has to be The Bride and O-Ren Ishii on opposing sides.

    [quote comment=”116964″][quote comment=”116955″]Anyone know what this guy is wearing link?

    there are more pics later in the gallery too.[/quote]

    maybe it’s something to control his swing? I dunno, I’ve played fh for ten years and I’ve never seen anything like that…I’ll see if I can find it on one of the fh websites.[/quote]

    Ok, I give up. I’ve tried every fh site I know, and I can’t find anything even close to that. Anyone else?

    [quote comment=”116986″][quote comment=”116982″][quote comment=”116973″]
    Which reminds me… does anyone have any clue as to why MLB broke the solemn tradition of alternating ASG venues AL to NL? Pittsburgh to San Fran? Still haven’t found the answer to that one yet…[/quote]

    They want to showcase new stadiums, and have somewhat of a backlog. Plus, they want to do New Yankee Stadium in 2009 and (I think) New Shea in 2010. So it was either pick a less attractive AL this year, Pit next year, then Yankee would be a year “late”.[/quote]

    They aren’t doing new Yankee Stadium, they’re doing old Yankee Stadium next year, 2008.[/quote]
    Looks like the big show could be headed to Minnesota if things go right according to linkarticle.

    [quote comment=”116971″][quote comment=”116956″]I love the irony that link shows a little stirrup. How much better would the players look even if they showed that tiny amount?? Even better, how ’bout link

    That uniform policy clearly states:

    “Pants cannot extend over the top of the heel of the shoe…”

    Doesn’t this make the pajama pants against the policy?

    It also states that under shirts have to be “of a standard club color”. Wouldn’t that also make the camo undershirt that Mike Timlin wears against the policy? I guess whoever controls these things doesn’t feel like enforcing the policy.[/quote]

    Who made Juan Pierre stop wearing the blue camo shirt when he was on the Cubs? Was it MLB or the Cubs?

    [quote comment=”116982″][quote comment=”116973″]
    Which reminds me… does anyone have any clue as to why MLB broke the solemn tradition of alternating ASG venues AL to NL? Pittsburgh to San Fran? Still haven’t found the answer to that one yet…[/quote]

    They want to showcase new stadiums, and have somewhat of a backlog. Plus, they want to do New Yankee Stadium in 2009 and (I think) New Shea in 2010. So it was either pick a less attractive AL this year, Pit next year, then Yankee would be a year “late”.[/quote]

    2008 ASG is going to be in Yankee Stadium
    2009 ASG is going to be in Busch Stadium

    Link

    [quote comment=”116986″][quote comment=”116982″][quote comment=”116973″]
    Which reminds me… does anyone have any clue as to why MLB broke the solemn tradition of alternating ASG venues AL to NL? Pittsburgh to San Fran? Still haven’t found the answer to that one yet…[/quote]

    They want to showcase new stadiums, and have somewhat of a backlog. Plus, they want to do New Yankee Stadium in 2009 and (I think) New Shea in 2010. So it was either pick a less attractive AL this year, Pit next year, then Yankee would be a year “late”.[/quote]

    They aren’t doing new Yankee Stadium, they’re doing old Yankee Stadium next year, 2008.[/quote]

    Right, so the last year of old Yankee Stadium will host the game.

    Also, 2009 is set for new Busch Stadium.

    I highly doubt adidas will do anything different to Michigan’s unis other than slap the logo where the Nike one used to be.

    Also, I wanted to say that Warrick Dunn wears the necklace because it was his mother’s and she died while on duty as a police officer. I’m only saying this because TV guy Brian Baldinger only calls it his good luck charm, rather than tell the full story.

    [quote comment=”116948″]I don’t quite understand Paul’s “walking around laughing” comment. Whether you like Nike or not, adidas will almost certainly try to put 3 stripes on the Michigan jerseys, as they did with Nebraska and UCLA. Either way, I am sure it will be far larger than the small swoosh at the bottom of the v-neck.

    Hating Nike while rooting for adidas is a bit like hating the Yankees but rooting for the RedSox. I understand the feeling, but it is hardly rooting for the underdog. Root for Russell or New Balance if you want to do that.[/quote]

    I dont think Paul is ‘rooting’ for adidas as much as he just hates Nike.

    I dont think adidas is dumb enough to mess with the Michigan Football uniforms too much. The part that the Michigan fas will grow tired of is the lame-o coaching and link that adidas makes. Where they put three stipes just about anywhere, and link

    Their biggest weakness is link link.

    I missed the All Star Game due to The Police concert in Miami. Uni-related item: Drummer Stewart Copeland wore an Adidas shirt (photo #8 in link slide show). He wore a Nike undershirt at the Grammy’s earlier this year so it seems these shirts are from his personal collection rather than from a sponsorship.

    So it was either pick a less attractive AL this year

    When is Tampa/ St. Petersburg going to host? Why doesn’t that count as a new stadium?

    [quote comment=”116985″]Man I had like 10 things to comment on until I looked at that goalie mask slideshow. Does anyone else have a grade A hardon for masks? I’m lucky enough to have 2 in my collection. Its just too bad they don’t have any old masks on there like link, link, link, or link. I love the OutKast ATL shield on Lehtonon’s chin, the Jason on Bacashihua’s, and of course, YODA on the back of Dubie’s!

    BJ Surhoff’s yellow gear is awesome. And, yes, the satin Cards jersey was for the lights. The link did the same thing in the late 40s.[/quote]

    The best goalie masks I ever saw were Gerry Cheevers’ “stiches” and Brian Hayward’s original Sharks mask.

    I love goalie masks, but I’m not so sure about the sexual arousal that you make reference to possum…although it gives no meaning to “slipped it between the pads” doesn’t it?

    [quote comment=”116912″]Interesting comment from Chris Duncan on why no one wears the high cuffs on the Cardinals. I always thought it was because it was considered a ‘minor league look’, required to be worn by all from their AAA team down to rookie league. The only ones in StL who’ve worn real stirrups in the past 2 seasons were both pitchers (Jason Marquis, Anthony Reyes) The official standard issue socks have the knitted-in stirrup design [same as minor leaguers]. Does anyone wanting real stirrups have to buy their own, get special orders?
    A-Rod’s white shoes DID look clownish. Jeter at least had co-ordinating gray ones. Last year several guys wore special white “All Star” shoes–didn’t see it as much this year.[/quote]

    Not to be Captain Obvious, or anything, but I wonder if the white shoes are worn especially for ASG’s so players can have them autographed. Many players get pretty stoked about these things and a white shoe would be easy to have signed.

    [quote comment=”116947″]
    Hey tape,
    How do you still have access to the dressed to the nines exhibit? I thought they took it down. It would be awesome if it was still available.[/quote]

    didn’t they just change the URL? it’s linked right on the sidebar of this site.

    [quote comment=”117005″][quote comment=”116985″]Man I had like 10 things to comment on until I looked at that goalie mask slideshow. Does anyone else have a grade A hardon for masks? I’m lucky enough to have 2 in my collection. Its just too bad they don’t have any old masks on there like link, link, link, or link. I love the OutKast ATL shield on Lehtonon’s chin, the Jason on Bacashihua’s, and of course, YODA on the back of Dubie’s!

    BJ Surhoff’s yellow gear is awesome. And, yes, the satin Cards jersey was for the lights. The link did the same thing in the late 40s.[/quote]

    The best goalie masks I ever saw were Gerry Cheevers’ “stiches” and Brian Hayward’s original Sharks mask.

    I love goalie masks, but I’m not so sure about the sexual arousal that you make reference to possum…although it gives no meaning to “slipped it between the pads” doesn’t it?[/quote]

    I meant NEW meaning – can’t type about such things without getting all flustered!

    [quote comment=”117009″][quote comment=”117005″][quote comment=”116985″]Man I had like 10 things to comment on until I looked at that goalie mask slideshow. Does anyone else have a grade A hardon for masks? I’m lucky enough to have 2 in my collection. Its just too bad they don’t have any old masks on there like link, link, link, or link. I love the OutKast ATL shield on Lehtonon’s chin, the Jason on Bacashihua’s, and of course, YODA on the back of Dubie’s!

    BJ Surhoff’s yellow gear is awesome. And, yes, the satin Cards jersey was for the lights. The link did the same thing in the late 40s.[/quote]

    The best goalie masks I ever saw were Gerry Cheevers’ “stiches” and Brian Hayward’s original Sharks mask.

    I love goalie masks, but I’m not so sure about the sexual arousal that you make reference to possum…although it gives no meaning to “slipped it between the pads” doesn’t it?[/quote]

    I meant NEW meaning – can’t type about such things without getting all flustered![/quote]
    ROFL! I’m going to have to use that “slip it between the pads” joke next season.

    [quote comment=”116900″]A-Rod never wears white shoes during the regular season, but he did wear them at last year’s all-star game as well. If you go
    here:
    The first two photos in the gallery clearly show him in white shoes.
    I couldn’t find any shots from previous years, but maybe this is an All-Star tradition of his?[/quote]

    Yes it is. And I believe I traditionally make a comment on it being a tradition as well. Paul linked to an link last year about it too (scroll to July 18). He wears them in tribute to the Mets players he grew up watching who would wear white shoes at the ASG. He’s done it since at least 2005.

    link

    [quote comment=”116988″][quote comment=”116964″][quote comment=”116955″]Anyone know what this guy is wearing link?

    there are more pics later in the gallery too.[/quote]

    maybe it’s something to control his swing? I dunno, I’ve played fh for ten years and I’ve never seen anything like that…I’ll see if I can find it on one of the fh websites.[/quote]

    Ok, I give up. I’ve tried every fh site I know, and I can’t find anything even close to that. Anyone else?[/quote]

    I broke my collarbone in high school and I had to wear something like that to keep my shoulders back.

    [quote comment=”116892″]The stirrups are so dead-on perfect that it’s easy to overlook the yellow catcher’s gear — yowza! Must have been the Brewers, right?

    I was going to say it could have been the Mariners, but the Mariners didn’t have striped cuffs in that period (the White Sox only wore those for 4 years). Plus that catcher is definitely B.J. Surhoff.

    link

    link[/quote]

    Are you sure it is B.J. Surhoff? I seem to recall Charlie O’Brien being the Brewer catcher who wore the colorful gear (as he did for the Mets (orange IIRC?) and the maybe the Braves). I think it looks a little like him too.

    [quote comment=”116985″]Man I had like 10 things to comment on until I looked at that goalie mask slideshow. Does anyone else have a grade A hardon for masks? I’m lucky enough to have 2 in my collection. Its just too bad they don’t have any old masks on there like link, link, link, or link. I love the OutKast ATL shield on Lehtonon’s chin, the Jason on Bacashihua’s, and of course, YODA on the back of Dubie’s!

    BJ Surhoff’s yellow gear is awesome. And, yes, the satin Cards jersey was for the lights. The link did the same thing in the late 40s.[/quote]

    That Liut mask has always given me the creeps. Something about it.

    [quote comment=”116948″]I don’t quite understand Paul’s “walking around laughing” comment. Whether you like Nike or not, adidas will almost certainly try to put 3 stripes on the Michigan jerseys, as they did with Nebraska and UCLA. Either way, I am sure it will be far larger than the small swoosh at the bottom of the v-neck.[/quote]

    Three stripes on the Nebraska and UCLA jerseys? Do you mean the logo? The logo on the front of the jersey isn’t really any worse than any of the other manufacturers use.

    link

    The number of times that the logo appears in the photo is a bit disturbing, however. It’s eight, I think.

    [quote comment=”116982″][quote comment=”116973″]
    Which reminds me… does anyone have any clue as to why MLB broke the solemn tradition of alternating ASG venues AL to NL? Pittsburgh to San Fran? Still haven’t found the answer to that one yet…[/quote]

    They want to showcase new stadiums, and have somewhat of a backlog. Plus, they want to do New Yankee Stadium in 2009 and (I think) New Shea in 2010. So it was either pick a less attractive AL this year, Pit next year, then Yankee would be a year “late”.[/quote]

    The All-Star game is at Yankee Stadium in 2008.

    [quote comment=”117017″][quote comment=”116948″]I don’t quite understand Paul’s “walking around laughing” comment. Whether you like Nike or not, adidas will almost certainly try to put 3 stripes on the Michigan jerseys, as they did with Nebraska and UCLA. Either way, I am sure it will be far larger than the small swoosh at the bottom of the v-neck.[/quote]

    Three stripes on the Nebraska and UCLA jerseys? Do you mean the logo? The logo on the front of the jersey isn’t really any worse than any of the other manufacturers use.

    link

    The number of times that the logo appears in the photo is a bit disturbing, however. It’s eight, I think.[/quote]

    I count nine if you count both gloves. Anyway, I’m partial to the link myself.

    Eurosport, the soccer gear catalog, has just put up ads for the brand new LA Galaxy jerseys. Go to link to see.

    Well UofM going adidas assures that I’ll only have to cringe with those god awful Nike Swift atrocities for one season.. At least the rumors I’ve heard is that Nike is forcing the swift on them next year.

    FYI – The Giants uniforms are CREAM, not Tan, and as a Giants fan, I must say that I love ’em, they are traditional and unique, and hardly noticible unless lined up against a pure white jersey.

    Also, why hasn’t Phoenix had an All-Star game yet? The heat is not a legitimate excuse, there is a huge convention center right across the street and the Suns stadium a block away to support the ancillary events in cool comfort. Just seems odd, given the fact that Phoenix was chosen as the MLB west coast home (they have an office in PHX).

    Well UofM going adidas assures that I’ll only have to cringe with those god awful Nike Swift atrocities for one season.. At least the rumors I’ve heard is that Nike is forcing the swift on them next year.

    i was talking about their hockey team… btw

    did anyone else notice that no one wore a third, colored jersey last night? i like that…

    [quote comment=”117037″]Well UofM going adidas assures that I’ll only have to cringe with those god awful Nike Swift atrocities for one season.. At least the rumors I’ve heard is that Nike is forcing the swift on them next year.[/quote]

    The maize (NOT yellow) Swift sweaters (NOT jerseys) were SWEEEEET!!!!
    But what’s the difference between selling out to Nike vs. adidas? Personally I think adidas is much worse because they are in bed with the spawn of Satan, Boss Stienbrenner and the Evil Empire

    [quote comment=”117038″]FYI – The Giants uniforms are CREAM, not Tan, and as a Giants fan, I must say that I love ’em, they are traditional and unique, and hardly noticible unless lined up against a pure white jersey.

    Also, why hasn’t Phoenix had an All-Star game yet? The heat is not a legitimate excuse, there is a huge convention center right across the street and the Suns stadium a block away to support the ancillary events in cool comfort. Just seems odd, given the fact that Phoenix was chosen as the MLB west coast home (they have an office in PHX).[/quote]

    1) Giant’s Uni’s: I agree with you. My wife asked me why they were like that and the best I could say was it looks “traditional”, sort of like the color the light flanels would have turned after a little bit of time.

    2) All-Star Game locations: Hopefully link can clear up some confusion.

    Did it bug anyone else to see players from the same team (Ortiz and Manny, Jeter and A-rod, ect) have the ASG patch on different sleeves from each other? The patch should always go on the right sleeve (unless there is a non-commemorative patch/logo there) to oppose the hat patch on the left. At least thats how it always used to be for All Star and World Series games until last night. Figures that in the Giants home park equipment details were less than perfect.

    [quote comment=”117022″]Looks like another hockey game is heading outside.

    link[/quote]

    Great idea, but “The Ice Bowl”?

    Sorry, boys. The name’s taken.

    [quote comment=”116985″]Man I had like 10 things to comment on until I looked at that goalie mask slideshow. Does anyone else have a grade A hardon for masks? I’m lucky enough to have 2 in my collection. Its just too bad they don’t have any old masks on there like link, link, link, or link. I love the OutKast ATL shield on Lehtonon’s chin, the Jason on Bacashihua’s, and of course, YODA on the back of Dubie’s!

    BJ Surhoff’s yellow gear is awesome. And, yes, the satin Cards jersey was for the lights. The link did the same thing in the late 40s.[/quote]

    Great site link that has lots of reproduction fiberglass masks.

    My personal favorite is link from the artist formally known as the Colorado Rockies.

    “I don’t quite understand Paul’s “walking around laughing” comment. “

    It’s part of a quote from Jim Bouton in Ball Four, “The Yankees have fallen into last place,
    and I’m so upset about it that I actually walk around laughing.”

    [quote comment=”117046″]Did it bug anyone else to see players from the same team (Ortiz and Manny, Jeter and A-rod, ect) have the ASG patch on different sleeves from each other? The patch should always go on the right sleeve (unless there is a non-commemorative patch/logo there) to oppose the hat patch on the left. At least thats how it always used to be for All Star and World Series games until last night. Figures that in the Giants home park equipment details were less than perfect.[/quote]

    Sorry to quote myself… but looking through the photo galleries it looks like the Yankees got it right after all (must be all the World Series experience they have had over the last 10 years) but the Sox didn’t, possibly other teams as well. Ortiz and Papelbon had the patches on different sleeves.

    [quote comment=”117043″][quote comment=”117037″]Well UofM going adidas assures that I’ll only have to cringe with those god awful Nike Swift atrocities for one season.. At least the rumors I’ve heard is that Nike is forcing the swift on them next year.[/quote]

    The maize (NOT yellow) Swift sweaters (NOT jerseys) were SWEEEEET!!!!
    But what’s the difference between selling out to Nike vs. adidas? Personally I think adidas is much worse because they are in bed with the spawn of Satan, Boss Stienbrenner and the Evil Empire[/quote]
    Not to mention link

    On Wilt’s headband – my dad had one like that – he worked in heat treatment in an axle plant. The front part was the absorbent material; the rest was just a rubber band.

    That is most definitely not a zipper on Neil Smith’s hip, there is a shadow of the cord visible on the pants, where the cord bows, so it can’t be part of the pants. It looks like a draw cord for the jersey to keep it tight, and not let anyone hold him.

    Chase Utley’s John Vukovich VUK patch (that the Phillies are wearing this year), was moved higher up the sleeve to make room for the All-Star game patch. Couldn’t find a photo, but whoever has DVR it is his atbat in the bottom of the second inning where it shows.

    Josh

    [quote comment=”116934″]FROM YESTERDAY:

    [quote comment=”116522″][quote comment=”116503″]Not all of us love the high pants and stirrup look….. long live the pajama pants![/quote]

    I would have to say… some of those guys look link with high cuffs! While I love high cuff, they look much better with stirrups instead of hoisery![/quote]

    He looks so stoopid cuz his pants are too tight…they need to be link[/quote]

    Just picking on rent-a-rocket… but there are some guys that their body shape just looks silly with high cuff.

    [quote comment=”116953″]It’s so weird how the Giants have a kind of tanish home jersey while all other teams have pure white jerseys[/quote]

    I love the cream… and I am not quoting Barry!

    [quote comment=”117061″]Chase Utley’s John Vukovich VUK patch (that the Phillies are wearing this year), was moved higher up the sleeve to make room for the All-Star game patch. Couldn’t find a photo, but whoever has DVR it is his atbat in the bottom of the second inning where it shows.

    Josh[/quote]

    Again, I thought I saw one VUK patch below the ASG patch, but maybe I was so crazy looking for who had the patch on the wrong sleeve to begin with that I may have made it up in my mind…

    what’s in jim leyland’s pocket, wallet or smokes?

    no cleats for him last night, but he’s going high-cuffed, and he didn’t wear that fugly smock.

    “did anyone else notice that no one wore a third, colored jersey last night? i like that…”
    Also none of the coaches wore the maternity smocks.

    [quote comment=”117002″]So it was either pick a less attractive AL this year

    When is Tampa/ St. Petersburg going to host? Why doesn’t that count as a new stadium?[/quote]

    Because it’s not.

    It was built in 1988.

    All Star Games at the New Comiskey and the Ballpark at McCovey Cove are a tribute to the importance of the Thunderdome since it is the reason they were built.

    I treasure my commitmentless “the Bay Area Loves the Giants” t-shirt that my parents picked up on a trip to Florida in the late-80’s or early-90’s.

    Someday, Steinbrenner will die and the Devil Rays will stage a coup at Legends Field to finally take the Tampa Bay area fanbase from the Yankees.

    Maybe then MLB will acknowledge that they exist.

    [quote comment=”117042″]did anyone else notice that no one wore a third, colored jersey last night? i like that…[/quote]

    That was actually the first thing I DID notice … though I didn’t get to see any of the game until the 8th inning.

    [quote comment=”116941″]In the Mel Blount Picture above: link also check out the fact that football players used to wear ACTUAL SLEEVES!

    It looks so much nicer.[/quote]

    Also take a good look at the socks. It appears to be two pairs being worn, with the foot cut out of the high pair, creating a leg sleeve, covered by the low pair.

    [quote comment=”117075″]link[/quote]

    Seeing that reminde me of when they were introducing the Arizona reserves and reminded me why jersey’s are awful. Yes, other teams have splits in their names an sometimes while playing you may see the extra “l” in the phillies uni’s. But the D’Backs had the extra “a” while they were just standing there; all three of them.

    [quote comment=”117077″]
    Someday, Steinbrenner will die and the Devil Rays will stage a coup at Legends Field to finally take the Tampa Bay area fanbase from the Yankees.

    Maybe then MLB will acknowledge that they exist.[/quote]

    ? Are you blaming MLB for all the problems with the Rays?

    The Pirates stirups used to have the small white stripe, a small black stripe, the the huge gold stripe, topped by another black, then white stripe. It was just that the gold stripe was so huge that you rarely saw the top stripes.

    The texture on Phil Niekro’s jersey…not mentioned was the windbreaker beneath!

    NFL…I wonder if now there are rules against tape on the arms. Remember Gene Upshaw and Fred Belitnikoff? I know there’s now a rule against taping shoes.

    Anyone notice the pre-game lockerroom chat…LaRussa was wearing his Cardinals jersey with BLACK long sleeves…bet when they wanted to tape he quickly changed from his ugly NL BP jersey to his better looking Cards jersey!

    Sidney Crosby’s new contract is uni-related. From link

    Crosby said that “it was important to do what was right for everyone,” but allowed that he had gotten at least one whimsical concession in the talks: A deal that translates to an annual salary-cap hit of $8.7 million.

    Those digits are no coincidence. Not for a guy born on 8/7/87, who wears No. 87.

    “I was right around that ballpark, so I said I might as well go 8.7,” Crosby said. “That’s my number, and it’s always been that way. It’s always been good to me, so, hopefully, maybe it will bring a little luck.”

    I scanned through quickly, and might have missed it, but the NHL announces their 2007-08 schedule this afternoon at 2pm EST.

    Check it out, and plan to see all the new NHL uniforms.

    Throwing more out, the NHL has announced that the Ice Bowl game will be a “go” this year. The Penguins are confirmed to be the visiting team, and rumour has it that Detroit or Buffalo will host. More to come….

    [quote comment=”117086″][quote comment=”117077″]
    Someday, Steinbrenner will die and the Devil Rays will stage a coup at Legends Field to finally take the Tampa Bay area fanbase from the Yankees.

    Maybe then MLB will acknowledge that they exist.[/quote]

    ? Are you blaming MLB for all the problems with the Rays?[/quote]

    Huh?

    I mean, threatening to shut them down with the Expos didn’t help, but… what?

    The Devil Rays may be at the bottom of MLB’s call back list, but I would never blame the plight of the Rays on Selig.

    … unless he’s the one who decided to put the team in an awful building in an awful location, dress them in ugly uniforms, and saddle them with an awful owner (since replaced).

    Not to mention that horrific Boggs jersey they hung on the basement wall when they “retired” his number…

    If I remember properly, Bret Boone was only named an All-Star AFTER Jeff Shaw was traded, because the Reds did need a representative.

    Mark Kotsay’s wife should be wearing real stirrups, but I think we should give her a pass. Check out link Should be the top story, but you may have to scroll down.

    [quote comment=”117015″][quote comment=”116892″]The stirrups are so dead-on perfect that it’s easy to overlook the yellow catcher’s gear — yowza! Must have been the Brewers, right?

    I was going to say it could have been the Mariners, but the Mariners didn’t have striped cuffs in that period (the White Sox only wore those for 4 years). Plus that catcher is definitely B.J. Surhoff.

    link

    link[/quote]

    Are you sure it is B.J. Surhoff? I seem to recall Charlie O’Brien being the Brewer catcher who wore the colorful gear (as he did for the Mets (orange IIRC?) and the maybe the Braves). I think it looks a little like him too.[/quote]

    I thought it was Charlie O’Brien as well.

    [quote comment=”117015″][quote comment=”116892″]The stirrups are so dead-on perfect that it’s easy to overlook the yellow catcher’s gear — yowza! Must have been the Brewers, right?

    I was going to say it could have been the Mariners, but the Mariners didn’t have striped cuffs in that period (the White Sox only wore those for 4 years). Plus that catcher is definitely B.J. Surhoff.

    link

    link[/quote]

    Are you sure it is B.J. Surhoff? I seem to recall Charlie O’Brien being the Brewer catcher who wore the colorful gear (as he did for the Mets (orange IIRC?) and the maybe the Braves). I think it looks a little like him too.[/quote]

    You know, I think you’re right about that.

    For that matter, in terms of All-Star Games, I really hope they do the back-to-back thing in one league soon again. They need to make sure that it’s the NL’s turn to host the All-Star game in 2026, which is about when it’ll be Philadelphia’s turn to host again.

    i couldn’t even begin to describe link the glove is a nice touch, but i really, really wish that the3y would have gotten him a hat. or maybe he took a cue from ryan howard, and when they gave him a new bp cap, he decided that he’d much rather be bare-headed. completely ridiculous.

    [quote comment=”117022″]Looks like another hockey game is heading outside.

    link[/quote]

    The NHL schedule is out, and the Penguins and Sabres do indeed have a 1 PM game scheduled for 1/1/08.

    Also, the NHL has set up two blocks of dates where only intradivision games will take place. Each team will play all four of their division rivals home and away in Nov., then again at the end of the season.

    The 2007-2008 sched is up on nhl.com; after clicking on “schedule” you may have to select a certain team to view, since the only games coming up on the opening page are the opening ones in London.

    [quote comment=”117049″][quote comment=”116985″]Man I had like 10 things to comment on until I looked at that goalie mask slideshow. Does anyone else have a grade A hardon for masks? I’m lucky enough to have 2 in my collection. Its just too bad they don’t have any old masks on there like link, link, link, or link. I love the OutKast ATL shield on Lehtonon’s chin, the Jason on Bacashihua’s, and of course, YODA on the back of Dubie’s!

    BJ Surhoff’s yellow gear is awesome. And, yes, the satin Cards jersey was for the lights. The link did the same thing in the late 40s.[/quote]

    Great site link that has lots of reproduction fiberglass masks.

    My personal favorite is link from the artist formally known as the Colorado Rockies.[/quote]

    Hey diddly-ho, neighboreenos! Those masks are all really great, but SI omitted link on current masks.

    [quote comment=”117108″][quote comment=”117022″]Looks like another hockey game is heading outside.

    link[/quote]

    The NHL schedule is out, and the Penguins and Sabres do indeed have a 1 PM game scheduled for 1/1/08.

    Also, the NHL has set up two blocks of dates where only intradivision games will take place. Each team will play all four of their division rivals home and away in Nov., then again at the end of the season.[/quote]

    i can’t see the nhl going up against the new year’s day bowl games. nbc would be nuts to broadcast this instead.

    [quote comment=”117108″][quote comment=”117022″]Looks like another hockey game is heading outside.

    link[/quote]

    The NHL schedule is out, and the Penguins and Sabres do indeed have a 1 PM game scheduled for 1/1/08.

    Also, the NHL has set up two blocks of dates where only intradivision games will take place. Each team will play all four of their division rivals home and away in Nov., then again at the end of the season.[/quote]

    Detroit is lobbying to have the Ice Bowl due to their Original Six stature. Basically, they are saying it should be another Edmonton-Montreal where an Original Six team plays a team with a history of success.

    [quote comment=”117113″][quote comment=”117108″][quote comment=”117022″]Looks like another hockey game is heading outside.

    link[/quote]

    The NHL schedule is out, and the Penguins and Sabres do indeed have a 1 PM game scheduled for 1/1/08.

    Also, the NHL has set up two blocks of dates where only intradivision games will take place. Each team will play all four of their division rivals home and away in Nov., then again at the end of the season.[/quote]

    Detroit is lobbying to have the Ice Bowl due to their Original Six stature. Basically, they are saying it should be another Edmonton-Montreal where an Original Six team plays a team with a history of success.[/quote]

    not according to the red wings.
    “League officials would not comment, but the NHL is believed to favor the outdoor game being played in a northern U.S. market. New York City has been ruled out, and Detroit general manager Ken Holland told the Buffalo News that he did not see the Red Wings participating in an outdoor game this season.”

    [quote comment=”117072″]link
    sounds like the uni’s wont change much at all, which is a relief.[/quote]

    Of course the uniforms won’t change. Michigan is a traditionnal, Notre-Damesque powerhouse that has class-ic, plain linkin every sports that resist all the fashion trends, just like UCLA or Penn state, plus its colors are instantly recognizable, wich is a huge asset when dealing with sport business giants. Nice move for the 3 stripes though, adding another big name in their stables.

    [quote comment=”117062″][quote comment=”116934″]FROM YESTERDAY:

    [quote comment=”116522″][quote comment=”116503″]Not all of us love the high pants and stirrup look….. long live the pajama pants![/quote]

    I would have to say… some of those guys look link with high cuffs! While I love high cuff, they look much better with stirrups instead of hoisery![/quote]

    He looks so stoopid cuz his pants are too tight…they need to be link[/quote]

    Just picking on rent-a-rocket… but there are some guys that their body shape just looks silly with high cuff.[/quote]

    At first, I thought they just took his uni from his 1st go around with the Yanks

    [quote comment=”116920″]anyone notice how some players wore cool-base and some wore regular jerseys? The galleries on mlb.com show some of these. I think Orlando Hudson was one of the cool-base wearers.

    link

    Looks like in that same gallery, Cole Hamels has cool base on.

    early rumors that the university of wyoming may wear their usual homecoming link throughout the season as opposed to their link jerseys which they had already link with link

    [quote comment=”116959″][quote comment=”116955″]Anyone know what this guy is wearing link?

    there are more pics later in the gallery too.[/quote]

    I’m guessing the black thing around his mid-torso is a heart-rate monitor. but the blue thing wrapped around his shoulders? ya got me…[/quote]

    It could be some sort of elastic thing to correct a swing/stroke… Could just be a tension band, boxers use it to build strength in their punches.

    I could not be happier with this years schedule- as a Stars fan stranded in PA, there are six stars games I could feasibly see this year. Sooo glad they’re making it to the east coast; now I’m just crossing my fingers I won’t have to look at atrocious re-designed jerseys!

    [quote comment=”117072″]link
    sounds like the uni’s wont change much at all, which is a relief.[/quote]

    Of course the uniforms won’t change. Michigan is a traditionnal, Notre-Damesque powerhouse that has class-ic, plain uniforms in every sports that resist all the fashion trends, just like UCLA or Penn state, plus its colors are instantly recognizable, wich is a huge asset when dealing with sport business giants. Nice move for the 3 stripes though, adding another big name in their stables.

    [quote comment=”117038″]FYI – The Giants uniforms are CREAM, not Tan, and as a Giants fan, I must say that I love ’em, they are traditional and unique, and hardly noticible unless lined up against a pure white jersey.

    Also, why hasn’t Phoenix had an All-Star game yet? The heat is not a legitimate excuse, there is a huge convention center right across the street and the Suns stadium a block away to support the ancillary events in cool comfort. Just seems odd, given the fact that Phoenix was chosen as the MLB west coast home (they have an office in PHX).[/quote]

    Regarding this, I wonder my self, but i can say that the huge Convention center is currently being rebuilt from the ground up, with only one phase currently done, and is scheduled for completion sometime next year. There is also another godawful amount of construction from a light rail being built straight through downtown.. all of this construction is within blocks of Bank One Ballpark, which may be why we have never gotten a game, or maybe its the fact that it was 105 degrees last night when the first pitch was thrown.. those beauitiful shots from the blimp of the field dont exist in phx in the summer, all you see is a dirty white roof.

    I was at the all-star game festivities yesterday and agree that the Majestic setup was great. The pre-made jerseys were disappointing to me though as they had no Russel Martin jerseys or T shirts at any booth or stand. He was the only National League starter that you could not buy a jersey for in the city. They even had reserve players like Derrek Lee…..

    [quote comment=”117075″]link[/quote]

    I love those Detroit road jerseys. And the home ones, too. Second only to the Cards in my book.

    early rumors that the university of wyoming may wear their usual homecoming throwbacks throughout the season as opposed to their normal jerseys which they had already modified with brown pants

    JT these are more than rumors. The Wyo AD has announced the school will be switching to “Traditional” colors which include brown and gold with the gold being a shade of yellow. See link for confirmation. As a Wyo grad I am not sure if I liike this……

    [quote comment=”117114″]
    not according to the red wings.
    “League officials would not comment, but the NHL is believed to favor the outdoor game being played in a northern U.S. market. New York City has been ruled out, and Detroit general manager Ken Holland told the Buffalo News that he did not see the Red Wings participating in an outdoor game this season.”[/quote]

    “Did not see” does not mean “will not happen”. The NHL did not see an outdoor game being a success in -40 F weather, yet 57000+ fans in Edmonton said it was a good idea.

    [quote comment=”117102″][quote comment=”117015″][quote comment=”116892″]The stirrups are so dead-on perfect that it’s easy to overlook the yellow catcher’s gear — yowza! Must have been the Brewers, right?

    I was going to say it could have been the Mariners, but the Mariners didn’t have striped cuffs in that period (the White Sox only wore those for 4 years). Plus that catcher is definitely B.J. Surhoff.

    link

    link[/quote]

    Are you sure it is B.J. Surhoff? I seem to recall Charlie O’Brien being the Brewer catcher who wore the colorful gear (as he did for the Mets (orange IIRC?) and the maybe the Braves). I think it looks a little like him too.[/quote]

    You know, I think you’re right about that.[/quote]

    I immediately recognized him as O’Brien. It wasn’t until I looked at his career and saw he was on the Brewers while the White Sox were wearing those unis that I knew I was right. I’d say the pic is from link. It’s probably his fly out to left in the fourth. Then again, he was thrown out at home after singling in the second. Is that enough dirt on his left leg for him to have slid into home before this at bat? It could be the single, but it would’ve had to have been a bloop. Of course, he also could be fouling one high and out of play to the left side. (I like how the kid in red is taking a picture at the exact same time as this one was taken.)

    [quote comment=”117158″][quote comment=”117102″][quote comment=”117015″][quote comment=”116892″]The stirrups are so dead-on perfect that it’s easy to overlook the yellow catcher’s gear — yowza! Must have been the Brewers, right?

    I was going to say it could have been the Mariners, but the Mariners didn’t have striped cuffs in that period (the White Sox only wore those for 4 years). Plus that catcher is definitely B.J. Surhoff.

    link

    link[/quote]

    Are you sure it is B.J. Surhoff? I seem to recall Charlie O’Brien being the Brewer catcher who wore the colorful gear (as he did for the Mets (orange IIRC?) and the maybe the Braves). I think it looks a little like him too.[/quote]

    You know, I think you’re right about that.[/quote]

    I immediately recognized him as O’Brien. It wasn’t until I looked at his career and saw he was on the Brewers while the White Sox were wearing those unis that I knew I was right. I’d say the pic is from link. It’s probably his fly out to left in the fourth. Then again, he was thrown out at home after singling in the second. Is that enough dirt on his left leg for him to have slid into home before this at bat? It could be the single, but it would’ve had to have been a bloop. Of course, he also could be fouling one high and out of play to the left side. (I like how the kid in red is taking a picture at the exact same time as this one was taken.)[/quote]
    Fisk being a catcher, it’s very possible his shin guards could have whiped away the dirt.

    • The stirrups here are so dead-on perfect

    … As great as Fisk was with wearing stirrups, the left stirrup looks as if it is on backwards.

    I didn’t see any other Fisk photos with his stirrups like that, so I’ll assume this wasn’t a quirk of Fisk’s.

    [quote comment=”117129″]I could not be happier with this years schedule- as a Stars fan stranded in PA, there are six stars games I could feasibly see this year. Sooo glad they’re making it to the east coast; now I’m just crossing my fingers I won’t have to look at atrocious re-designed jerseys![/quote]

    Terri, I’m a Flyers fan in NYC, but you DO understand how great this corner is. My brother-in-law and sister come up for a Devils-Flyers and Rangers-Flyers game every year since I moved. Friends will try to come up for other dates, too. So it’s just great being in enemy territory.

    [quote comment=”117165″][quote comment=”117129″]I could not be happier with this years schedule- as a Stars fan stranded in PA, there are six stars games I could feasibly see this year. Sooo glad they’re making it to the east coast; now I’m just crossing my fingers I won’t have to look at atrocious re-designed jerseys![/quote]

    Terri, I’m a Flyers fan in NYC, but you DO understand how great this corner is. My brother-in-law and sister come up for a Devils-Flyers and Rangers-Flyers game every year since I moved. Friends will try to come up for other dates, too. So it’s just great being in enemy territory.[/quote]

    Oh, I love going to games and rooting for the other team- I haven’t been to a home game for my favorite hockey or baseball team since I was 10 yrs old; at this point, arguing with other fans is second nature, and a hell of a lot of fun. Plus as an added bonus, I get to go to all different arenas and ballparks to see my teams.

    [quote comment=”117175″]link[/quote]
    What can one say. The White Sox simply have Redneck night every night.

    [quote comment=”117043″][quote comment=”117037″]Well UofM going adidas assures that I’ll only have to cringe with those god awful Nike Swift atrocities for one season.. At least the rumors I’ve heard is that Nike is forcing the swift on them next year.[/quote]

    The maize (NOT yellow) Swift sweaters (NOT jerseys) were SWEEEEET!!!!
    But what’s the difference between selling out to Nike vs. adidas? Personally I think adidas is much worse because they are in bed with the spawn of Satan, Boss Stienbrenner and the Evil Empire[/quote]

    no no, nike swift jerseys will never, EVER be honored with the title of “sweater”. they’re pieces of crap that take the template idea and vertical striping further than any hockey jersey ever should be. most of the NCAA is wearing the exact same jersey with different colors

    [quote comment=”117174″][quote comment=”117165″][quote comment=”117129″]I could not be happier with this years schedule- as a Stars fan stranded in PA, there are six stars games I could feasibly see this year. Sooo glad they’re making it to the east coast; now I’m just crossing my fingers I won’t have to look at atrocious re-designed jerseys![/quote]

    Terri, I’m a Flyers fan in NYC, but you DO understand how great this corner is. My brother-in-law and sister come up for a Devils-Flyers and Rangers-Flyers game every year since I moved. Friends will try to come up for other dates, too. So it’s just great being in enemy territory.[/quote]

    Oh, I love going to games and rooting for the other team- I haven’t been to a home game for my favorite hockey or baseball team since I was 10 yrs old; at this point, arguing with other fans is second nature, and a hell of a lot of fun. Plus as an added bonus, I get to go to all different arenas and ballparks to see my teams.[/quote]

    I know I’m quoting myself, but I wanted to add 2 things-

    1)every season I thank god I’m fairly close to a crapload of nhl teams; I’d die if I was in the middle of nowhere w/ no teams.

    2) I really want to go to the Rnagers/Stars game this year; I hear games at MSG are amazing.

    link is more opptimistic about the Mets All Star Game.

    According to their sources, the Mid-Summer Classic will be in blue and orange in three or five years.

    Youre Ditch the Black campaign is on the clock, Paul!

    [quote comment=”117163″]• The stirrups here are so dead-on perfect

    … As great as Fisk was with wearing stirrups, the left stirrup looks as if it is on backwards.

    I didn’t see any other Fisk photos with his stirrups like that, so I’ll assume this wasn’t a quirk of Fisk’s.[/quote]
    Clemente’s stirrups are dead on perfect, Fisk’s are pulled up to high for my taste. Although they’re better than how Keith “I love Keith Hernandez” Hernandez used to wear his.

    [quote comment=”117180″]2) I really want to go to the Rnagers/Stars game this year; I hear games at MSG are amazing.[/quote]

    Oh yes. Yes, they are. Make sure you wear a jersey, for extra fun!

    The NHL schedule is ridiculous. This is the 2nd consecutive year the Blackhawks haven’t played in Tampa.

    You think that just maybe there might be some retirees from Chicago in the Tampa area who would attend that game?

    [quote comment=”117191″]The NHL schedule is ridiculous. This is the 2nd consecutive year the Blackhawks haven’t played in Tampa.

    You think that just maybe there might be some retirees from Chicago in the Tampa area who would attend that game?[/quote]

    Three-year schedule says that the Northwest Division visits the Southeast this season.

    [quote comment=”117191″]The NHL schedule is ridiculous. This is the 2nd consecutive year the Blackhawks haven’t played in Tampa.

    You think that just maybe there might be some retirees from Chicago in the Tampa area who would attend that game?[/quote]

    Methinks you’re more likely to find retirees from Chicago at a Coyotes game than in the Tampa area….unless they’re retired Cubs ;o)

    [quote comment=”117191″]The NHL schedule is ridiculous. This is the 2nd consecutive year the Blackhawks haven’t played in Tampa.

    You think that just maybe there might be some retirees from Chicago in the Tampa area who would attend that game?[/quote]

    The way I understand it, they’re doing it by division; Chicago probably doesn’t play any Southeast conference team this year. Since this is the second year in a row, they’ll probably play them next year. But them prepare yourself for another two years where they won’t. I know, the NHL isn’t giving much consideration to out-of-town fans; I’m just lucky enough to be in a prime spot, close to a southeast team and a all the atlantic teams.

    [quote comment=”117008″][quote comment=”116947″]
    Hey tape,
    How do you still have access to the dressed to the nines exhibit? I thought they took it down. It would be awesome if it was still available.[/quote]

    didn’t they just change the URL? it’s linked right on the sidebar of this site.[/quote]

    Ah, I see… Thanks.

    [quote comment=”117099″]Mark Kotsay’s wife should be wearing real stirrups, but I think we should give her a pass. Check out link Should be the top story, but you may have to scroll down.link

    Question: where those socks really designed to be stirrups… or are they just youth league soccer socks that got adopted. If they were meant to be stirrups, would they not look like link???

    I was struck by how many of the NFL photos showed players loaded up with yards of tape on their arms and hands. You don’t see that anymore.

    It was rumored that Pittsburgh defensive lineman Ernie Stautner used to flatten tennis ball cans and tape them to his forearms back in the day.

    And I got the Bob Lilly photo — framed and signed — as a Christmas present from my brother and family last year. Paul’s right…those Bills letters are huge and I don’t know of enough else who used that font, but perhaps the St. Louis Cardinals did…

    Secretariat was a fucking horse, not an athlete. Geez.

    Otherwise, I think SI did a credible job with their top-by-number list. Fourteen was particuarly good–Rose over Foyt by a car’s length. Good call, but it just as easily could have gone the other way.

    [quote comment=”117211″][quote comment=”117099″]Mark Kotsay’s wife should be wearing real stirrups, but I think we should give her a pass. Check out link Should be the top story, but you may have to scroll down.link

    Question: where those socks really designed to be stirrups… or are they just youth league soccer socks that got adopted. If they were meant to be stirrups, would they not look like link???[/quote]

    I dunno…when I weas little and palying softball, I had faux stirrups just like that, and I’ve never seen soccer socks like that. I’d say they’re just cheapo baseball socks.

    link‘s teammates apparently refer to him as Ned Flanders because of his religious devotion.

    I was at least year’s Rangers/Stars game in Dallas. Lundqvist shut ’em out on 40-plus saves — best goaltending performance I’ve ever witnessed in person.

    [quote comment=”117216″]Secretariat was a fucking horse, not an athlete. Geez.[/quote]

    The jockey is wearing the number. The horse and jockey can be any number in the race. Thanks for the useless profanity.

    [quote comment=”117213″]Not entirely uni-related – link at le Tour de France today[/quote]

    I have a Tour de France uni-related matter. Someone posted that Discovery would be adding green to their unis. I went to their website – no sign of it and scoffed. Now that the Tour has begun, I see the green – all we need is ONE MORE team with blue and green… bleh.

    Anyway, question is: why is Hincapie wearing link even in link?

    [quote comment=”117217″][quote comment=”117211″][quote comment=”117099″]Mark Kotsay’s wife should be wearing real stirrups, but I think we should give her a pass. Check out link Should be the top story, but you may have to scroll down.link

    Question: where those socks really designed to be stirrups… or are they just youth league soccer socks that got adopted. If they were meant to be stirrups, would they not look like link???[/quote]

    I dunno…when I weas little and palying softball, I had faux stirrups just like that, and I’ve never seen soccer socks like that. I’d say they’re just cheapo baseball socks.[/quote]

    Remember earlier in the day someone linked to that pic of Ricky Henderson wearing those type of socks. They came about because in the late 70’s and 80’s the fad was to just show the stirrup part of the stirrup (just the stripe). These socks acomplished that withought having to wear actual stirrups.

    [quote comment=”117146″][quote comment=”117075″]link[/quote]

    I love those Detroit road jerseys. And the home ones, too. Second only to the Cards in my book.[/quote]

    Jim is wearing track shoes, not the cleats he apparenlty wears all the time.

    [quote comment=”117222″][quote comment=”117213″]Not entirely uni-related – link at le Tour de France today[/quote]

    I have a Tour de France uni-related matter. Someone posted that Discovery would be adding green to their unis. I went to their website – no sign of it and scoffed. Now that the Tour has begun, I see the green – all we need is ONE MORE team with blue and green… bleh.

    Anyway, question is: why is Hincapie wearing link even in link?[/quote]
    He’s the link. Most countries have their Champ wear the colors of the flag in the peloton. A lot of countries had their championships on July 1. Trying to find more examples now…

    [quote comment=”117182″]Youre Ditch the Black campaign is on the clock, Paul![/quote]

    wouldnt that be a fun sight…
    looking at the majesty of citi field in the twilight of the midsummer nights classic, and seeing a large sign reading, “DITCH THE BLACK”.

    ive always wondered how jesse jackson didnt interpret a mets petition called “ditch the black” as one to get rid of its manager…

    kinda like ive often wondered how he hasnt caused a stink about “white american” cheese yet.

    [quote comment=”117185″]Check out the size of the old buckeye decals
    link

    thats a horseshit list. jesse owens HAS to be ohio states greatest athlete. its not even close… not even a buckeye fan, but that pissed me off.

    [quote comment=”116982″][quote comment=”116973″]
    Which reminds me… does anyone have any clue as to why MLB broke the solemn tradition of alternating ASG venues AL to NL? Pittsburgh to San Fran? Still haven’t found the answer to that one yet…[/quote]

    They want to showcase new stadiums, and have somewhat of a backlog. Plus, they want to do New Yankee Stadium in 2009 and (I think) New Shea in 2010. So it was either pick a less attractive AL this year, Pit next year, then Yankee would be a year “late”.[/quote]
    You’re wrong about Yankee stadium in 2009 as they are hosting the all star game next year 2008

    [quote comment=”117226″][quote comment=”117222″][quote comment=”117213″]Not entirely uni-related – link at le Tour de France today[/quote]

    I have a Tour de France uni-related matter. Someone posted that Discovery would be adding green to their unis. I went to their website – no sign of it and scoffed. Now that the Tour has begun, I see the green – all we need is ONE MORE team with blue and green… bleh.

    Anyway, question is: why is Hincapie wearing link even in link?[/quote]
    He’s the link. Most countries have their Champ wear the colors of the flag in the peloton. A lot of countries had their championships on July 1. Trying to find more examples now…[/quote]

    I considered that… but he wore the link in the prologue…

    OK, Dave Zabriske –link wore the Stars and Stripes in the prologue because it was a Time Trial. Alexandre Vinokourov wore the link in 2005, and modeled the current Astana kit after it.

    If you look below Mr. White’s groinal area link, does anyone else notice the placekicker wearing a ring on his left hand?

    Is that something kickers still do today?

    [quote comment=”117216″]Secretariat was a fucking horse, not an athlete. Geez.quote]

    Secretariat always gave his best, never complained, never asked for more money, never had his spouse wear an obscene shirt to the race, never got arrested for drug or alcohol abuse, and never let his fans or his sport down.

    Yeah, you’re right…he wasn’t an athlete. Can we get more non-athletes in sport?

    [quote comment=”117232″]OK, Dave Zabriske –link wore the Stars and Stripes in the prologue because it was a Time Trial. Alexandre Vinokourov wore the link in 2005, and modeled the current Astana kit after it.[/quote]

    Robbie McEwen – Australian National Champion link

    Nicolas Vogondy – French National Champion link

    Just saw the white skates in the paper this morning. David Perron, the 3rd 1st round pick for the Blues this year. About 60% of his skates were white. They weren’t spots, may have been custom. If you picked up a Post-Dispatch, the pic is on page 5 sports.

    Today was purple day at the day camp I work at…and it was so painful to see almost every kid wear the color purple…

    [quote comment=”117237″]If you look below Mr. White’s groinal area link, does anyone else notice the placekicker wearing a ring on his left hand?

    Is that something kickers still do today?[/quote]

    Could be tape. That would make more sense.

    [quote comment=”117188″][quote comment=”117180″]2) I really want to go to the Rnagers/Stars game this year; I hear games at MSG are amazing.[/quote]

    Oh yes. Yes, they are. Make sure you wear a jersey, for extra fun![/quote]

    Great, Anthony. Set the guy up to be the first member to be recognized with a Uni Watch memorial patch.

    [quote comment=”116988″][quote comment=”116964″][quote comment=”116955″]Anyone know what this guy is wearing link?

    there are more pics later in the gallery too.[/quote]

    maybe it’s something to control his swing? I dunno, I’ve played fh for ten years and I’ve never seen anything like that…I’ll see if I can find it on one of the fh websites.[/quote]

    Ok, I give up. I’ve tried every fh site I know, and I can’t find anything even close to that. Anyone else?[/quote]

    It looks a bit like the sling used to hold a broken collarbone in place, but I can’t tell for sure. Any other cyclists out there who had to where one??

    [quote comment=”117264″][quote comment=”116988″][quote comment=”116964″][quote comment=”116955″]Anyone know what this guy is wearing link?

    there are more pics later in the gallery too.[/quote]

    maybe it’s something to control his swing? I dunno, I’ve played fh for ten years and I’ve never seen anything like that…I’ll see if I can find it on one of the fh websites.[/quote]

    Ok, I give up. I’ve tried every fh site I know, and I can’t find anything even close to that. Anyone else?[/quote]

    It looks a bit like the sling used to hold a broken collarbone in place, but I can’t tell for sure. Any other cyclists out there who had to where one??[/quote]

    I commented earlier about it looking like a broken collarbone thing. I had to wear one after I fell of my bike in high school.

    does anyone know who started the pajama slacks look? i personally can’t take it anymore. they all look like slobs. can you imagine roberto or willie or mickey goin pajama? wake me when this fad is over.

    [quote comment=”116926″]I don’t remember exactly what it looked like, but I also recall seeing a “Cubs 2003 World Series” shirt for sale at a Kohl’s store. I forget the exact date, but it was when the Cubs had 3 wins and it looked like a 4th was inevitable. As a White Sox fan, how I wish I’d bought the shirt now…[/quote]

    I’ve got a couple ’96 world series Cardinals shirts that my Dad picked up some time back in StL.

    [quote comment=”116962″]A great upclose example of the link on Oakland’s batting helmet.

    It’s different than the one on the hat and logo. Always has been. The seriph is blocky, like the pre-1973 “A.”

    Why won’t anyone else recognize this? Is it just me?

    I need an explanation. It’s been bothering me since 1981![/quote]

    It’s bothered me since the day I became a fan in ’85. But it’s not just 2 A’s, it’s tens of A’s. Look around a bit more.

    [quote comment=”117270″]does anyone know who started the pajama slacks look? i personally can’t take it anymore. they all look like slobs. can you imagine roberto or willie or mickey goin pajama? wake me when this fad is over.[/quote]

    I believe it is named the Clemson Cut. I remember something on this website a few months ago.

    [quote comment=”117267″][quote comment=”117264″][quote comment=”116988″][quote comment=”116964″][quote comment=”116955″]Anyone know what this guy is wearing link?

    there are more pics later in the gallery too.[/quote]

    maybe it’s something to control his swing? I dunno, I’ve played fh for ten years and I’ve never seen anything like that…I’ll see if I can find it on one of the fh websites.[/quote]

    Ok, I give up. I’ve tried every fh site I know, and I can’t find anything even close to that. Anyone else?[/quote]

    It looks a bit like the sling used to hold a broken collarbone in place, but I can’t tell for sure. Any other cyclists out there who had to where one??[/quote]

    I commented earlier about it looking like a broken collarbone thing. I had to wear one after I fell of my bike in high school.[/quote]

    Sorry, missed it. One does wonder if someone should be swinging a field hockey stick with a broken collarbone though…

    [quote comment=”117274″][quote comment=”117270″]does anyone know who started the pajama slacks look? i personally can’t take it anymore. they all look like slobs. can you imagine roberto or willie or mickey goin pajama? wake me when this fad is over.[/quote]

    I believe it is named the Clemson Cut. I remember something on this website a few months ago.[/quote]

    link!

    [quote comment=”117275″][quote comment=”117267″][quote comment=”117264″][quote comment=”116988″][quote comment=”116964″][quote comment=”116955″]Anyone know what this guy is wearing link?

    there are more pics later in the gallery too.[/quote]

    maybe it’s something to control his swing? I dunno, I’ve played fh for ten years and I’ve never seen anything like that…I’ll see if I can find it on one of the fh websites.[/quote]

    Ok, I give up. I’ve tried every fh site I know, and I can’t find anything even close to that. Anyone else?[/quote]

    It looks a bit like the sling used to hold a broken collarbone in place, but I can’t tell for sure. Any other cyclists out there who had to where one??[/quote]

    I commented earlier about it looking like a broken collarbone thing. I had to wear one after I fell of my bike in high school.[/quote]

    Sorry, missed it. One does wonder if someone should be swinging a field hockey stick with a broken collarbone though…[/quote]

    but if you look through the gallery, most the players are wearing them.

    NOT uni-related, but I know this a forum of sports fans who are “detail oriented”

    Just read the SI.com article about Oklahoma, it reads, “The Sooners went 8-4 and beat Oregon in the Holiday Bowl to end the 2005 season. Records from that season involving quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn must be erased, the NCAA said, and coach Bob Stoops’ career record will be amended to reflect the erased wins, dropping it from 86-19 in eight seasons to 78-19.”

    Is it fair to just eliminate the coach’s wins? Shouldn’t the whole season be wiped out?

    [quote comment=”117261″][quote comment=”117188″][quote comment=”117180″]2) I really want to go to the Rnagers/Stars game this year; I hear games at MSG are amazing.[/quote]

    Oh yes. Yes, they are. Make sure you wear a jersey, for extra fun![/quote]

    Great, Anthony. Set the guy up to be the first member to be recognized with a Uni Watch memorial patch.[/quote]

    Hey, it’s ok, I’ve been surviving fans yelling when I root for the other team for years. Besides, I’m a girl, so they don’t usually throw things at me, and then I can usually shock them into silence when they realize I actually understand what’s going on in the game and can talk smack just as well as they can :).

    [quote comment=”117279″]NOT uni-related, but I know this a forum of sports fans who are “detail oriented”

    Just read the SI.com article about Oklahoma, it reads, “The Sooners went 8-4 and beat Oregon in the Holiday Bowl to end the 2005 season. Records from that season involving quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn must be erased, the NCAA said, and coach Bob Stoops’ career record will be amended to reflect the erased wins, dropping it from 86-19 in eight seasons to 78-19.”

    Is it fair to just eliminate the coach’s wins? Shouldn’t the whole season be wiped out?[/quote]

    ummm if the 8 games dont count how can you count them as wins for the coaching record??

    By your logic since they should still count for the coach they should still count in Oklahoma history and for the players.

    Why even punish them then if games with ineligible players still count???

    [quote comment=”117288″][quote comment=”117279″]NOT uni-related, but I know this a forum of sports fans who are “detail oriented”

    Just read the SI.com article about Oklahoma, it reads, “The Sooners went 8-4 and beat Oregon in the Holiday Bowl to end the 2005 season. Records from that season involving quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn must be erased, the NCAA said, and coach Bob Stoops’ career record will be amended to reflect the erased wins, dropping it from 86-19 in eight seasons to 78-19.”

    Is it fair to just eliminate the coach’s wins? Shouldn’t the whole season be wiped out?[/quote]

    ummm if the 8 games dont count how can you count them as wins for the coaching record??

    By your logic since they should still count for the coach they should still count in Oklahoma history and for the players.

    Why even punish them then if games with ineligible players still count???[/quote]

    I think his point was that the season was wiped out but the coaches record only subtracted from the wins side – if they went 8-4, then his point is that the coaches loss total should have 4 subtracted from it.

    Maybe this should wait ’til tomorrow, but…

    link will retain his number 21 with the Flyers; link has switched to 19 because Jeff Carter wears the number 17 Hartnell wore with Nashville.

    [quote comment=”117290″][quote comment=”117288″][quote comment=”117279″]NOT uni-related, but I know this a forum of sports fans who are “detail oriented”

    Just read the SI.com article about Oklahoma, it reads, “The Sooners went 8-4 and beat Oregon in the Holiday Bowl to end the 2005 season. Records from that season involving quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn must be erased, the NCAA said, and coach Bob Stoops’ career record will be amended to reflect the erased wins, dropping it from 86-19 in eight seasons to 78-19.”

    Is it fair to just eliminate the coach’s wins? Shouldn’t the whole season be wiped out?[/quote]

    ummm if the 8 games dont count how can you count them as wins for the coaching record??

    By your logic since they should still count for the coach they should still count in Oklahoma history and for the players.

    Why even punish them then if games with ineligible players still count???[/quote]

    I think his point was that the season was wiped out but the coaches record only subtracted from the wins side – if they went 8-4, then his point is that the coaches loss total should have 4 subtracted from it.[/quote]

    I think the way it goes in the NCAA is that the season is now basically in the books as 0-4, not 0-12. I dont know why but I think thats how it goes

    [quote comment=”116903″]Yes, Jeff Shaw went from the Reds to Dodgers during the All-Star break in 1998, but the Reds did have Bret Boone named a reserve to the team, so they were represented.[/quote]

    But Boone did not enter in the game.

    [quote comment=”116926″]I don’t remember exactly what it looked like, but I also recall seeing a “Cubs 2003 World Series” shirt for sale at a Kohl’s store. I forget the exact date, but it was when the Cubs had 3 wins and it looked like a 4th was inevitable. As a White Sox fan, how I wish I’d bought the shirt now…[/quote]

    Then I am sure that you will enjoy this:

    link

    [quote comment=”117086″][quote comment=”117077″]
    Someday, Steinbrenner will die and the Devil Rays will stage a coup at Legends Field to finally take the Tampa Bay area fanbase from the Yankees.

    Maybe then MLB will acknowledge that they exist.[/quote]

    ? Are you blaming MLB for all the problems with the Rays?[/quote]

    I would…they gave them a team in the first place. Just think, no expansion team, no problem.

    [quote comment=”116973″][quote comment=”116954]- Glad to see the Mets players wore the pinstripes and blue hats. I wondered what they would have looked like if they’d worn different combinations…[/quote]

    I totally agree. Any true Mets fan can appreciate this, considering how often they stray from their original home set of blue on blue w/pinstripes. I remember last year’s ASG being disgusted with the all-white alternate home uni’s in Pittsburgh.

    Which reminds me… does anyone have any clue as to why MLB broke the solemn tradition of alternating ASG venues AL to NL? Pittsburgh to San Fran? Still haven’t found the answer to that one yet…[/quote]
    Darbs-

    I haven’t read through all the posts to see if anyone has answered your question about the AL/NL switcheroo. I’m guessing its so the Yankees can host the All-Star game during the last year of Yankee Stadium, and it won’t screw up the rotation that bad.

    Again, its just a guess.

    [quote comment=”117308″]link as rumored on a Sharks message board.[/quote]
    Is that right side up?

    [quote comment=”117314″][quote comment=”117308″]link as rumored on a Sharks message board.[/quote]
    I’ve been seeing link floating around >.[/quote]
    That is the WHA Los Angeles Sharks.

    And I don’t know if the other is right side up.

    [quote comment=”117314″][quote comment=”117308″]link as rumored on a Sharks message board.[/quote]
    I’ve been seeing link floating around >.[/quote]
    That was sarcasm, folks. And so would link.

    [quote comment=”117032″][quote comment=”117017″][quote comment=”116948″]I don’t quite understand Paul’s “walking around laughing” comment. Whether you like Nike or not, adidas will almost certainly try to put 3 stripes on the Michigan jerseys, as they did with Nebraska and UCLA. Either way, I am sure it will be far larger than the small swoosh at the bottom of the v-neck.[/quote]

    Three stripes on the Nebraska and UCLA jerseys? Do you mean the logo? The logo on the front of the jersey isn’t really any worse than any of the other manufacturers use.

    link

    The number of times that the logo appears in the photo is a bit disturbing, however. It’s eight, I think.[/quote]

    I count nine if you count both gloves. Anyway, I’m partial to the link myself.[/quote]

    neither of you seem to have spotted the stripes on his chin.

    10

    [quote comment=”117319″][quote comment=”117032″][quote comment=”117017″][quote comment=”116948″]I don’t quite understand Paul’s “walking around laughing” comment. Whether you like Nike or not, adidas will almost certainly try to put 3 stripes on the Michigan jerseys, as they did with Nebraska and UCLA. Either way, I am sure it will be far larger than the small swoosh at the bottom of the v-neck.[/quote]

    Three stripes on the Nebraska and UCLA jerseys? Do you mean the logo? The logo on the front of the jersey isn’t really any worse than any of the other manufacturers use.

    link

    The number of times that the logo appears in the photo is a bit disturbing, however. It’s eight, I think.[/quote]

    I count nine if you count both gloves. Anyway, I’m partial to the link myself.[/quote]

    neither of you seem to have spotted the stripes on his chin.

    10[/quote]

    1 pants
    2 towel
    3 glove
    4 glove
    5 arm pad
    6 arm pad
    7 jersey
    8 chinstrap
    9 armband
    10 armband

    i gotta say..i am a former equipment manager..and you guys are off on alot of things..neil smith with a zipper on his hip?? are you joking?? its a string or other part of equipment underneath

    [quote comment=”117291″]Maybe this should wait ’til tomorrow, but…

    link will retain his number 21 with the Flyers; link has switched to 19 because Jeff Carter wears the number 17 Hartnell wore with Nashville.[/quote]

    jason smith’s jersey is a reebok, but the scott hartnell one is a ccm. you’d think that the flyers would have their own official jerseys for an introductory press conference, no?

    The picture of Willie Lanier’s padded helmet reminded me of something I had seen before. Does anyone remember if a Buffalo Bills player from their Super Bowl years wore an extra pad over the top of his helmet? I would love to know his name and the reason for the extra padding.

    [quote comment=”117334″]The picture of Willie Lanier’s padded helmet reminded me of something I had seen before. Does anyone remember if a Buffalo Bills player from their Super Bowl years wore an extra pad over the top of his helmet? I would love to know his name and the reason for the extra padding.[/quote]
    That’s the ProCap “Eliminator”! A little over-shell for football helmets, it is supposed to significantly reduce the likelihood of concussions and severity of contact to the head. The Buffalo player in question is DB Mark Kelso. (link)

    Oh my lord. I am watching the AAA All Star Game and a guy by the name of Mark Worrell from the Cardinals AAA team just came in to pitch and is wearing his pants in between low nd high. They are right at the bottom of his calf. He is wearing solid red socks and I must say, it looks about as bad as it could ever look.

    [quote comment=”117323″]i gotta say..i am a former equipment manager..and you guys are off on alot of things..neil smith with a zipper on his hip?? are you joking?? its a string or other part of equipment underneath[/quote]

    It’s 100% strings (two of them). That’s a shame that it was even mentioned.

    Wednesday night’s HBO 2-hour epic about the Brooklyn Dodgers was great for those who follow uniform styles throught the years. Of course you’ve got all the permutations of Dodger uniforms… and the just about never-changing pinstripes of the Mott Haven Evil Empire …
    Best stuff – Jackie Robinson’s college football jersey. Odd stripes under the front numbers.
    Funniest stuff — has to be color film of the Hollywood Stars minor league baseball team – in shorts!

    [quote comment=”117334″]The picture of Willie Lanier’s padded helmet reminded me of something I had seen before. Does anyone remember if a Buffalo Bills player from their Super Bowl years wore an extra pad over the top of his helmet? I would love to know his name and the reason for the extra padding.[/quote]
    I believe the player you are referring to is link

    [quote comment=”117260″][quote comment=”117237″]If you look below Mr. White’s groinal area link, does anyone else notice the placekicker wearing a ring on his left hand?

    Is that something kickers still do today?[/quote]

    Could be tape. That would make more sense.[/quote]

    Was there not a kicker who wore his wedding ring? That Cowboys pic was around the Rafial Septien era, was it not? Any Cowpoke fans out there? Punter Reggie Roby wore a stopwatch on his wrist during games, as Paul has reported.

    Sidney Crosby wears #87 because he was born 8/7/87. His new contract will pay him an average of 8.7 million a year.

    [quote comment=”116959″][quote comment=”116955″]Anyone know what this guy is wearing link?

    there are more pics later in the gallery too.[/quote]

    I’m guessing the black thing around his mid-torso is a heart-rate monitor. but the blue thing wrapped around his shoulders? ya got me…[/quote]

    some type of form holder… like you know its tight so he doesn’t get into some postion or help his follow thru… i really know nothing about field hockey but my guess its some type of restrain.

    and the guys playing field hockey is pretty damn cool.

    Quote from the article about the Sharks’ new logo:

    “The Sharks did not take altering their brand lightly, as the main logo has been one of the most popular in professional sports since the club’s inception in 1991.”

    Haha, I’m not anti-sharks, but is the above quote really a viable truth?? If so, my fault, but I don’t know of anyone who was at anytime itching to buy some sharks gear because it looked cool.

    [quote comment=”117032″][quote comment=”117017″][quote comment=”116948″]I don’t quite understand Paul’s “walking around laughing” comment. Whether you like Nike or not, adidas will almost certainly try to put 3 stripes on the Michigan jerseys, as they did with Nebraska and UCLA. Either way, I am sure it will be far larger than the small swoosh at the bottom of the v-neck.[/quote]

    Three stripes on the Nebraska and UCLA jerseys? Do you mean the logo? The logo on the front of the jersey isn’t really any worse than any of the other manufacturers use.

    link

    The number of times that the logo appears in the photo is a bit disturbing, however. It’s eight, I think.[/quote]

    I count nine if you count both gloves. Anyway, I’m partial to the link myself.[/quote]

    its ten his chin strap has the adidas logo.

    [quote comment=”117364″][quote comment=”116959″][quote comment=”116955″]Anyone know what this guy is wearing link?

    there are more pics later in the gallery too.[/quote]

    I’m guessing the black thing around his mid-torso is a heart-rate monitor. but the blue thing wrapped around his shoulders? ya got me…[/quote]

    some type of form holder… like you know its tight so he doesn’t get into some postion or help his follow thru… i really know nothing about field hockey but my guess its some type of restrain.

    and the guys playing field hockey is pretty damn cool.[/quote]

    In most countries, field hockey is actually a men’s sport…women play too, but it started as a men’s sport- there are even pro leagues. It’s considered a women’s sport in the US ‘cuz it was brought over by a woman from England and was the first sport that was considered acceptable for women to play. Ok, class dismissed :).

    Paul,
    The Gale Sayers plastic molded mask in question was made by Wilson. (Adams made a very similar white plastic mask but it only had one single vertical bar between the two horizontal bars) George Halas had ties to the Wilson company, which was also based in Chicago and the Bears used predominately Wilson helmets at the time. HelmetHut has a few articles and letters that give more details.

    I don’t think that’s a zipper on Neil Smith’s hip in that Broncos picture. It looks to me like the strings from his shoulder pads or from a flack jacket (which are usually worn by QBs and RBs).

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