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Portrait of the Artist as a Young TV Viewer

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For last Thursday’s entry about team captains, I put a photo of Captain Kirk at the top of the page. It now occurs to me that the original Star Trek series, which I watched a lot of as a kid (insert all the usual geek clichés here), had a very formative effect on my uni-watching predilections, because I was pretty obsessed with how the various characters’ Starfleet ranks were indicated by the gold braid on their sleeve cuffs (sort of like this). A quick recap:

• Kirk was a captain, so he had two solid braids with a dotted braid in between. Occasionally they dressed him in that green tunic-y thing (I believe because William Shatner had put on too much weight to look good in the standard uniform top), and it always bugged me that the tunic sometimes had the standard sleeve braids and at other times mimicked the sleeve braiding on the shoulders with the sleeves left blank.

• Commanders, like Spock, wore two solid gold braids.

• Lieutenant commanders, like Scottie, had one solid braid and one dotted.

• Lieutenants, like Sulu and Uhura, had one solid gold braid.

• Ensigns, like Chekov, had plain, unadorned sleeves, which always struck me as a bit of a gyp. Like, shouldn’t they get a single dotted braid or something?

• The occasional appearance of a Commodore, like Stocker or Decker, was marked by two gold braids with some sort of metallic foil in between.

There’s more, like all the different badges and such, but I never got into that stuff as much — then, as now, I was always more interested in the sleeve stripes. (Those who really wanna dork out on this stuff should look here, and there’s a doozy of a PDF file here.)

Much later, in the early 1990s — several years before I came up with the idea for Uni Watch — I got into the great 1960s TV series The Prisoner, and I noticed an ongoing discrepancy in the white piping on Patrick McGoohan’s signature black jacket. Sometimes the piping ran straight through the notch between the lapel and the collar (as seen here, here, here, and here), but at other times there was a small break in the piping (here, here, here, and here). Sometimes these two styles appeared within the same episode — or even the same scene. Bizarre. The people who produce The Simpsons must have noticed too, because they used both styles in this frame.

Obviously, it’s completely shocking that I was watching all this non-sports programming, but think of this as Uni Watch in its embryonic stages. I assure you that I was obsessing about stirrups and sleeve lengths and all the usual minutiae the whole time anyway.

Meanwhile, in actual sports news…: I’m trying to put the finishing touches on the roster of players who’ve worn particular uni numbers for particular reasons. As you’ll recall, I’m trying to get at least one example for each number from 0 through 99 — a tall order, it turns out. Here’s what I’m missing: 35, 48, 54, 59, 61, 63, 64, 67, 78, 82, and 86. (Update: Thanks to a slew of extremely helpful readers, all I’m missing now is 64 and 78.)

If you know of a player who’s worn any of these numbers for a specific reason, please get in touch as soon as possible.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Really interesting article here about Little Leaguers wearing Negro Leagues uniforms. ”¦ More swag at the White House. ”¦ The Capitals will unveil their new uniforms on June 22nd. ”¦ Confused by the Mets’ ever-shifting color protocols? You’re not the only one (with thanks to Jesse Spector).

 
  
 
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    Not to show my geekiness too much. But I was always interested in the different color uniform tops for the crew of the Enterprise. Blue for Science/medical, Red for communications/Engineering/Security. Gold for command/navigation etc.

    On another note, it was just announced that DC United will, indeed, honor VT by wearing special maroon jerseys with the VT logo this Saturday. The game worn jerseys will then be actioned off to benefit the Hokie fund. Link here link

    [quote comment=”74871″]I sincerely hope the Caps leave link in the past![/quote]

    I kinda like those….dig the stripes and the white shorts ARE unique.

    If you consider NASCAR numbers to be “real” sports numbers, Jimmie Johnson is #48 because his car is owned by Jeff Gordon who is #24.

    [quote comment=”74877″]If you consider NASCAR numbers to be “real” sports numbers, Jimmie Johnson is #48 because his car is owned by Jeff Gordon who is #24.[/quote]

    Yes, NASCAR definitely counts. So Johnson uses 48 because it’s two times 24?

    [quote comment=”74873″][quote comment=”74871″]I sincerely hope the Caps leave link in the past![/quote]

    I kinda like those….dig the stripes and the white shorts ARE unique.[/quote]

    The white shorts are a bit much. Also, while i like link logo, I would kind of rather that they update the current link logo to fit the new color scheme.

    I can’t remember – are the Wizards going with a new color scheme like the Caps are? I noticed the Mystics got link, but are sticking with the same blue, black, gold scheme.

    Pie of the Cubs switched from No. 17 to No. 20 in yesterdays loss to the Brew Crew. 20 was his number throughout the minor leagues.

    I remember Robert Svehla wearing #67 during his time as a Leaf. ’67 was, of course, the last year the Leafs won the cup. What I can’t remember is *why*. So this is pretty much useless…

    [quote comment=”74888″]I can’t remember – are the Wizards going with a new color scheme like the Caps are? I noticed the Mystics got link, but are sticking with the same blue, black, gold scheme.[/quote]

    Haven’t heard anything about it, so I’m going to assume they’re sticking with the blue, black, and gold. Besides, those colors feel like they fit the name “Wizards” better than a red, white, and blue scheme. Since the Capitals are so named because of their location, it makes sense for them to use the flag’s colors.

    I’m surprised no one mentioned the Phillies- Astros game last night. They played their make up game from Jackie Robinson Day and they all wore #42

    link

    And a little off topic, but the Phillies are starting to go on a roll. Here we go Phils! Time to see Jamie Moyer and those stirrups tonight.

    It is not a super interesting reason, but link quotes Tony Esposito as requesting #35 because he wanted “something different – something to make me stand out and for people to notice.” At the time, it was a nontraditional number for a hockey goalie to wear.

    [quote comment=”74877″]If you consider NASCAR numbers to be “real” sports numbers, Jimmie Johnson is #48 because his car is owned by Jeff Gordon who is #24.[/quote]

    Jeff Gordon does not own Jimmie Johnson’s car. Both of their cars are owned by Hendrick Motorsports. link

    Live long and prosper.

    I never really paid attention to the sleeve stripes on the uniforms. It pretty much mimics the link officer insignia though. I’ve always preferred TNG over TOS though.

    I miss Bloom County. I have a great Billy and the Boingers Bootleg Tour t-shirt that I never wear because I can’t replace it.

    Wow… learn something everyday here on UniWatch.

    Never noticed the sleeve braids before on Star Trek.

    Never heard of The Prisoner before, but that is one cool jacket.

    back to yesterday…
    it was reported that kobe chose 8 because 1+4+3= 8.
    i was alway under the impression that it was because as a youth player in italy he wore 8. and the reason he wore 8 as a youth was because current phoenix head coach mike d’antoni was his favorite player, and that was his jersey number.
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    How is the ‘Nucks wearing the awesome throwbacks, including Roberto Luongo having matching pads/glove/waffle and a killer mask not the main topic this AM?!
    With all due respect Paul as I’m sure the Star Trek topic was well researched and all ready to go, the Canucks fashion show should have made some mention, at least. Also, it is another example of just how clueless Gary Bettman and his adminastraiton is to not encourage throwbacks as a 3rd next year.
    Slainte’
    MIke

    [quote comment=”74900″][quote comment=”74877″]If you consider NASCAR numbers to be “real” sports numbers, Jimmie Johnson is #48 because his car is owned by Jeff Gordon who is #24.[/quote]

    Jeff Gordon does not own Jimmie Johnson’s car. Both of their cars are owned by Hendrick Motorsports. link

    Gordon is indeed the owner of the #48 car, but the car is also part of the Hendrick Motorsports team.

    [quote comment=”74910″]#67- NY Giants, Billy Ard, offensive guard, 1981-88, Wake Forest grad.[/quote]

    But WHY did he choose #67?

    i wore 82 in my softball league casue its the year i was born… i’m sure i don’t count though… :/

    [quote comment=”74910″]#67- NY Giants, Billy Ard, offensive guard, 1981-88, Wake Forest grad.[/quote]

    But why did he wear #67……..that’s the whole point……..why did players wear certain numbers……

    [quote comment=”74909″][quote comment=”74900″][quote comment=”74877″]If you consider NASCAR numbers to be “real” sports numbers, Jimmie Johnson is #48 because his car is owned by Jeff Gordon who is #24.[/quote]

    Jeff Gordon does not own Jimmie Johnson’s car. Both of their cars are owned by Hendrick Motorsports. link

    Gordon is indeed the owner of the #48 car, but the car is also part of the Hendrick Motorsports team.[/quote]

    Jeff Gordon is part owner of the 48 car. Hendrick is the co-owner. Gordon was the (as much as I hate to say this being a Jr. Fan) wise man behind bringing JJ up to NASCAR. It is a good story for those who aren’t familier (sp?) with NASCAR.

    Along with the uniform # change for Pie, he also wore his pants down last night. He normally goes high-cuffed, but has worn pants down a few times. Anyone know why he chaned uni numbers?

    [quote comment=”74907″]How is the ‘Nucks wearing the awesome throwbacks, including Roberto Luongo having matching pads/glove/waffle and a killer mask not the main topic this AM?!
    With all due respect Paul as I’m sure the Star Trek topic was well researched and all ready to go, the Canucks fashion show should have made some mention, at least. Also, it is another example of just how clueless Gary Bettman and his adminastraiton is to not encourage throwbacks as a 3rd next year.
    Slainte’
    MIke[/quote]

    The Canucks ownership has changed, and the third jersey could be kept. Nothing has been announced yet, but the Orca-C is pretty much done. That was Orca Bay’s logo, and they no longer own the team. From the number of alternates in the crowd last night at GM Place, it would be foolish for the new ownership group not to consider the alternate as a possibility.

    Gary Bettman is eliminating the third jersey due to the fact that 30 teams will have new uniforms next season. In terms of marketing, Bettman wants the new jersey designs to be the feature, not some alternate being used as a cash grab.

    After all, it worked for the Minnesota Wild. They’re keeping the red jerseys, and ditching the green. The prevailing rumour out of Edmonton is that they will use their third jersey design as their home jersey as well.

    Paul, if you’re gonna start with the original Star Trek, you need to carry on through the uniform re-designs as well. Star Trek: The Next Generation wore little gold buttons on their collars to designate rank. I was never a follower of the Star Trek TV shows, but I’ve seen the movies. Deep Space Nine and Enterprise also have different uniform configurations from what I’ve seen, although DS9 was similar to the Next Generation.

    This could be an intern project, Vince. :o)

    As a die-hard Brewers fan, I knew the Crew would win when the Cubs had Cherry and Pie in at the same time. As for the Star Trek stuff….uh…I got nothing.

    [quote comment=”74935″]Paul, if you’re gonna start with the original Star Trek, you need to carry on through the uniform re-designs as well. Star Trek: The Next Generation wore little gold buttons on their collars to designate rank. I was never a follower of the Star Trek TV shows, but I’ve seen the movies. Deep Space Nine and Enterprise also have different uniform configurations from what I’ve seen, although DS9 was similar to the Next Generation.

    This could be an intern project, Vince. :o)[/quote]

    I second this.

    I have to go on a little bit of a rant here, after watching my alma mater last night, and I wanted to share the ugliness of their style with you guys.

    link

    link

    Here are my problems with the Northeast Eagles (yellow team) uniforms.

    First of all, yellow? It looks absolutely horrible. I didn’t even know you could find yellow vests anywhere. 2nd, I’m not opposed to useless trim like you guys are, but the white trim with grey pants is not a good match.

    Third, I have the pet peeve that with few exceptions, when you’re on the road, you’re jersey should have the name of the city/school. If you look at the majors, it’s common practice with a few exceptions. “Eagles” doesn’t tell your opponents where you’re from…or who you are.

    Then, if you look at the 2nd photo, you’ll notice that they decide to rock a white hat….with gray pants. That puts the checklist at white hat, yellow jersey, gray pants, blue socks. If you’re going to spring for the white hat, you need a different hat to go with the road gray’s.

    I can’t tell the font on the jerseys, but it seems like a Pirates-esque font. Anyways, I thought you guys would get a kick out of these beauties, and I welcome your opinions.

    [quote comment=”74923″][quote comment=”74909″][quote comment=”74900″][quote comment=”74877″]If you consider NASCAR numbers to be “real” sports numbers, Jimmie Johnson is #48 because his car is owned by Jeff Gordon who is #24.[/quote]

    Jeff Gordon does not own Jimmie Johnson’s car. Both of their cars are owned by Hendrick Motorsports. link

    Gordon is indeed the owner of the #48 car, but the car is also part of the Hendrick Motorsports team.[/quote]

    Jeff Gordon is part owner of the 48 car. Hendrick is the co-owner. Gordon was the (as much as I hate to say this being a Jr. Fan) wise man behind bringing JJ up to NASCAR. It is a good story for those who aren’t familier (sp?) with NASCAR.[/quote]

    I’m not quite familiar with all the inner-workings of NASCAR, but isn’t it some weird rule where an individual can’t own multiple cars? So there’s a lot of owners’ wives that own the #2, or #3 car on a team?

    [quote comment=”74880″][quote comment=”74877″]If you consider NASCAR numbers to be “real” sports numbers, Jimmie Johnson is #48 because his car is owned by Jeff Gordon who is #24.[/quote]

    Yes, NASCAR definitely counts. So Johnson uses 48 because it’s two times 24?[/quote]

    Aren’t the numbers assigned by NASCAR? so, Johnson really wouldn’t have any say in the matter, though I suspect Hendrick may have some influence…

    LOVE the Canucks originals. Sabres closed out NY Islanders in their originals too. Throwbacks rock. Leave it to Reebok to change the one thing no one was complaining about with hockey….the hockey sweater.

    Heres hoping for a Sabres/Canucks all 1970 cup final. Bust out the throwbacks all around, home and away.

    [quote comment=”74934″][quote comment=”74907″]How is the ‘Nucks wearing the awesome throwbacks, including Roberto Luongo having matching pads/glove/waffle and a killer mask not the main topic this AM?!
    With all due respect Paul as I’m sure the Star Trek topic was well researched and all ready to go, the Canucks fashion show should have made some mention, at least. Also, it is another example of just how clueless Gary Bettman and his adminastraiton is to not encourage throwbacks as a 3rd next year.
    Slainte’
    MIke[/quote]

    The Canucks ownership has changed, and the third jersey could be kept. Nothing has been announced yet, but the Orca-C is pretty much done. That was Orca Bay’s logo, and they no longer own the team. From the number of alternates in the crowd last night at GM Place, it would be foolish for the new ownership group not to consider the alternate as a possibility.

    Gary Bettman is eliminating the third jersey due to the fact that 30 teams will have new uniforms next season. In terms of marketing, Bettman wants the new jersey designs to be the feature, not some alternate being used as a cash grab.

    After all, it worked for the Minnesota Wild. They’re keeping the red jerseys, and ditching the green. The prevailing rumour out of Edmonton is that they will use their third jersey design as their home jersey as well.[/quote]

    Apparently, Vancouver retailers have had to order new Canucks merchandise sight unseen, but have been told that it’ll be green and blue. So at the very least we can expect something similar to the Vintage jerseys that have been such a hit for them the last two seasons.

    But this is Vancouver, origin of some of North America’s worst unis, so we should stand back, just in case.

    [quote comment=”74936″]As a die-hard Brewers fan, I knew the Crew would win when the Cubs had Cherry and Pie in at the same time. As for the Star Trek stuff….uh…I got nothing.[/quote]

    And because they were wearing the sharpest alts in the majors. link

    [quote comment=”74944″]I have to go on a little bit of a rant here, after watching my alma mater last night, and I wanted to share the ugliness of their style with you guys.

    link

    link

    Marc, is that my alma mater Rutgers that your guys are playing against?

    RU has always had nice-looking red and black, and they often wear vests. I can’t remember the last time I saw an ugly Rutgers baseball uniform.

    [quote comment=”74946″][quote comment=”74880″][quote comment=”74877″]If you consider NASCAR numbers to be “real” sports numbers, Jimmie Johnson is #48 because his car is owned by Jeff Gordon who is #24.[/quote]

    Yes, NASCAR definitely counts. So Johnson uses 48 because it’s two times 24?[/quote]

    Aren’t the numbers assigned by NASCAR? so, Johnson really wouldn’t have any say in the matter, though I suspect Hendrick may have some influence…[/quote]

    Yes, they’re assigned, but I imagine it’s much like a baseball or football team. You can choose from among the available numbers, I don’t think they force a random number generator down your throat.

    no Mark, this is a high school team. But you’re right, the opposing school shares the same colors as Rutgers, minus the gold trim

    for TNG, DS9, and Voyager, they used the same rank insignia patterns, as follows (god I’m geeky):

    **** = Captain (four solid buttons)
    *** = Commander
    **O = Lt. Commander (Two solid and one open)
    ** = Lt.
    *O = Lt. Junior Grade
    * = Ensign

    [quote comment=”74956″]for TNG, DS9, and Voyager, they used the same rank insignia patterns, as follows (god I’m geeky):

    **** = Captain (four solid buttons)
    *** = Commander
    **O = Lt. Commander (Two solid and one open)
    ** = Lt.
    *O = Lt. Junior Grade
    * = Ensign[/quote]

    Since all three took place during the same time period (according to several websites, there were recurring charcaters crossing over), that would make sense.

    When Josh Towers (currently a Blue Jay) came up with the Orioles in 2001, he specifically requested number 35 — recently vacated by Mike Mussina’s departure. It was basically all about saying “I’m going to be just as valuable as that guy was.” The anecdote always stuck in my mind because Towers started out on a tear — for awhile it looked like he might actually do it.

    (more info/proof at the bottom of the page at link)

    He wears 7 with the Jays, which to me makes the whole 35 thing even more interesting. It really wasn’t about Towers as much as it was about Towers making a point with the number. Gotta love that.

    [quote comment=”74960″]charcaters[/quote]

    Apparently, I speak Klingon. The word in English should be “character”. :o)

    OK, off topic but somewhat uni related. Link to embarrasing article from my local paper (melbourne, FL).

    “Captain American arressted while in possession of a large burrito”…you can’t make this stuff up.

    link

    PS-Leave it to a DC Super hero. This would have never happened to a Marvel Superhero such as Spiderman….

    [quote comment=”74950″][quote comment=”74936″]As a die-hard Brewers fan, I knew the Crew would win when the Cubs had Cherry and Pie in at the same time. As for the Star Trek stuff….uh…I got nothing.[/quote]

    And because they were wearing the sharpest alts in the majors. link

    pit staaaaaain

    While trying to find why Andy Moog wore number 35 for Paul’s article, I found this wicked cool site:

    link

    [quote comment=”74969″]Derrick Turnbow wears #59 for the Brewers[/quote]

    Again, WHY does he wear #59? It’s all about the WHY for Paul?

    for 4 years Rob Mackowiak wore 59 for the Pirates.

    He did grow up a White Sox fan, so the 59 could have been (either chosen or retained) as a reference to the last Chicago team in the World Series before 05. But that is speculative.

    [quote comment=”74969″]Derrick Turnbow wears #59 for the Brewers[/quote]

    oops…missed the part about a particular reason…my bad

    [quote comment=”74967″]Also from the Phils’ tribute:

    David Robinson, Jackie Robinson’s son, was at the game and threw out the first pitch:
    link
    link
    link

    and if im not mistaken, he threw a perfect strike as well…

    Please folks, the request was to name a player who wears a given number for a particular reason.

    Bad: michael jordan wore 23 during his career.
    Good: michael jordan wore 23 during his career because his brother larry wore 45 in high school, and michael took the closest thing to 1/2 of that number.

    [quote comment=”74979″][quote comment=”74967″]Also from the Phils’ tribute:

    David Robinson, Jackie Robinson’s son, was at the game and threw out the first pitch:
    link
    link
    link

    and if im not mistaken, he threw a perfect strike as well…

    Please folks, the request was to name a player who wears a given number for a particular reason.

    Bad: michael jordan wore 23 during his career.
    Good: michael jordan wore 23 during his career because his brother larry wore 45 in high school, and michael took the closest thing to 1/2 of that number.[/quote]

    OK…i got it…i missed it…geeeeeeeeeeez ;)

    Here is a link to Penn State’s new womens basketball coach holding up a jersey she will never wear.

    This brings me my moderatly uni related point, why do they have to be the “Lady Lions” as opposed to the Nittany Lions like the mens team. I hate that shit.

    No way anyone can complain about the University of San Diego Torero’s womens beach volleyball uniforms…

    link

    [quote comment=”74966″][quote comment=”74950″][quote comment=”74936″]As a die-hard Brewers fan, I knew the Crew would win when the Cubs had Cherry and Pie in at the same time. As for the Star Trek stuff….uh…I got nothing.[/quote]

    And because they were wearing the sharpest alts in the majors. link

    pit staaaaaain[/quote]

    He’s likely wearing the link version of the alt.

    quick question, im sure will be answered quickly..

    do the mets have a black “mets” jersey AND a black “new york” jersey? or just one? and if they only have one.. whats it say? have they had both in past years?

    In response to number 61: What are you so bitter about? You do not need to read the blog and if you think it ought to be differently done please start your own and control it as you wish.

    On a different note I will tell you what I am bitter about: the logos of the major schools in my state have each been changed in recent years for marketing purposes, each for the worse. I cannot stand the santitized dullness that marketing majors have been foisting upon us lately. Please try a little imagination and taste.

    Oh and by the way I live in Oregon so you know the schools that I am talking about.

    [quote comment=”74950″][quote comment=”74936″]As a die-hard Brewers fan, I knew the Crew would win when the Cubs had Cherry and Pie in at the same time. As for the Star Trek stuff….uh…I got nothing.[/quote]

    And because they were wearing the sharpest alts in the majors. link

    Really, you like those??? I guess they’re ok, but what really bothers me about them is that the blue of the caps doesn’t match the blue of the jerseys. You can really tell in the stores.

    [quote comment=”74900″][quote comment=”74877″]If you consider NASCAR numbers to be “real” sports numbers, Jimmie Johnson is #48 because his car is owned by Jeff Gordon who is #24.[/quote]

    Jeff Gordon does not own Jimmie Johnson’s car. Both of their cars are owned by Hendrick Motorsports. link

    JJ’s car is owned by Gordon. NASCAR owns the numbers, and teams request them. Theres no random number assignments.

    On the topic of NASCAR though, Brad Daugherty wore number 43 in the NBA as a tribute to Richard Petty.

    [quote comment=”74991″]quick question, im sure will be answered quickly..

    do the mets have a black “mets” jersey AND a black “new york” jersey? or just one? and if they only have one.. whats it say? have they had both in past years?[/quote]

    they have both although i’m not sure i’ve seen them wear the black road jersey’s (“new york”)this year

    [quote comment=”74985″]No way anyone can complain about the University of San Diego Torero’s womens beach volleyball uniforms…

    link

    shoot,
    i wonder what their team photo looks like!

    re: Rob Mackowiak wearing #59. He is a Southsider, and I think I do remember hearing the Pirate announcers reported that he was wearing #59 as a tribute to the 1959 AL Champion Chisox. I can’t find proof, though.

    Interestingly, in his last year with the Pirates, Mackowiak switched from #59 to #3. Then last year, Buccos reserve OF Nate McLouth wore #59, but this year, he switched to — you guessed it — #3.

    [quote comment=”74997″][quote comment=”74985″]No way anyone can complain about the University of San Diego Torero’s womens beach volleyball uniforms…

    link

    shoot,
    i wonder what their team photo looks like![/quote]

    Todd,

    Not the link I am sure you wanted :)

    Pardon me while I geek out on everyone, but what a wonderful convergence of two of my passions in this post — uniforms and Star Trek.

    My favorite Trek uniforms are the ones from the movies Star Trek II to Star Trek VII, which had the virtue of being more, well, uniform. All officers wore maroon jackets and the department colors were more subtle, on a shoulder sash, undershirt collars and piping on the pants. Department colors were changed to white, gold, olive green, gray and red.

    The Next Generation brought back some of the color sensibilities of the Original Series, but turned one convention on its ear by putting command officers in red. As you may remember, the “red shirts” from the Original Series were security or engineering guys. With the exception of Scotty, their main purpose was mainly to be fodder for aliens to kill.

    I’ve probably bored some of you already, so I’ll return you to your scheduled program.

    P.S. Have I missed the details of the May 12 UniWatch convocation? I’m planning on being there!

    [quote comment=”74929″]Along with the uniform # change for Pie, he also wore his pants down last night. He normally goes high-cuffed, but has worn pants down a few times. Anyone know why he changed uni numbers?[/quote]
    The only reason it said online was that he wore that number in the minors and wanted to keep it in the pros.

    And yes, those are the Cool Base alts, not a pit stain. I also think their alts are very sharp, but agree it looks weird the cap and the jersey don’t match perfectly.

    [quote comment=”74964″]PS-Leave it to a DC Super hero. This would have never happened to a Marvel Superhero such as Spiderman….[/quote]

    Hate to break it to you Cathy, but Captain America is a Marvel superhero……

    Personally, I think Spidey is a chalupa man himself.

    [quote comment=”74964″]PS-Leave it to a DC Super hero. This would have never happened to a Marvel Superhero such as Spiderman….[/quote]

    Ummm…sorry, but Captain America is a Marvel Comics superhero. Good try though.

    [quote comment=”75007″]Doesn’t beat the link tho[/quote]

    I wonder what their alternate uniforms are……?

    #35

    When Rickey Henderson started his illustrious career, his first number was 35. He was awesome with the number 35. I wanted to wear 35, because two of my favorite A’s wore it, Henderson and Vida Blue.

    When Henderson was traded to the yankees, he took the number 24, because Willie Mays was his hero. I always thought it was lame, because Henderson was Henderson and 35 was his number. When Rickey returned to the A’s, he kept the number 24. Which brings me to this …

    When the A’s retire his number, do they retire 35 or 24?

    [quote comment=”74887″][quote comment=”74886″]Is the title image a Bloom County cartoon?[/quote]

    Yes — good catch.[/quote]

    And wasn’t the cartoon an homage to (or ripoff of) an ad for Maxell? Ahh, yes, good old Google:
    link

    Hey Paul, I sent an email to that link, but i have no idea if it’s gonna make it to you, cuz i’ve never sent anything in before. But I submitted that Benoit Pouliot, a prospect for the Minnesota Wild, wore #67 during his brief callup this season, he also wore #67 during his time in junior hockey at Sudbury. He wears #67 as a tribute to his two favorite players, Mario Lemieux(66) and Jaromir Jagr(68) because it’s right in between their numbers.

    oops…my mistake. It is Superman that is DC. Regardless….funny story. I bet it makes Leno or Letterman.

    [quote comment=”74890″]Best strip evah. Too bad BB didn’t have your eye for uniform — Opus is link.[/quote]

    Ditto that. I was lucky enough to be a grad student at the U of Texas ca. 1980 when Breathed was getting started on the UT student paper doing The Academia Waltz, which later evolved into Bloom County. I still have a couple of AW collections on my shelves.

    [quote comment=”74893″][quote comment=”74888″]I can’t remember – are the Wizards going with a new color scheme like the Caps are? I noticed the Mystics got link, but are sticking with the same blue, black, gold scheme.[/quote]

    Haven’t heard anything about it, so I’m going to assume they’re sticking with the blue, black, and gold. Besides, those colors feel like they fit the name “Wizards” better than a red, white, and blue scheme. Since the Capitals are so named because of their location, it makes sense for them to use the flag’s colors.[/quote]

    A few months back, there was an interview w/ the Mystics VP on here (Paul linked to it.) Mystics said they’d go R,W, &B when the Caps did. (It was the first legit confirmation that the Caps would be going back to the old colors). The Wizards are still owned by Abe Polin (Ted Leonsis’ Lincoln Holdings has majority of the Caps and Mystics) so what happens with the Caps/Mystics won’t necessarily have an impact on the Wiz…is my guess.

    My guess/hope with the Caps redesign is that the logo w/ the Capitol dome stays the same…and possiby the bronze they’re using remains an accent color (the same way the Nationals use Gold along with their Red White and blue.) I just hope they’re simple and clean…and not over designed in the armpit/side panel area.

    [quote comment=”75018″]oops…my mistake. It is Superman that is DC. Regardless….funny story. I bet it makes Leno or Letterman.[/quote]
    Leave it to a Marvel Superhero. This would have never happened to a DC Superhero such as the Green Lantern! :D

    [quote comment=”75027″]RE: Ricky Henderson wearing #35 for the A’s

    link

    …he also wore 35 when he played in Seattle

    link

    Thanks for the pics.

    This one is for Paul …

    Rickey wore 35 with the Mariners because 24 was already taken and 35 was available.

    I don’t know if the quote is out there, but I know I read it.

    This doesn’t answer the why, but Mike Michalske, who holds the record for wearing the most numbers on one team (9 with the Pack) wore 63 towards the end of career. I guess the obvious reason would be apathy.

    In nascar when a team selects a number they generally hold onto it. When Jeff Gordon broke into Nascar, Hendrick’s top team was the link driven by Ricky Rudd. Rudd eventually left Hendrick and took the Tide sponsor with him, but the number remains with the team, so Rudd was driving a link

    Numerology update: Thanks to the wonderful help that many of you have provided, only three spots remain to be filled on the roster: 63, 64, and 78.

    Thanks so much — and let’s not give up until it’s complete!

    Paul,

    While watching the Yankees/Rays on ESPN last night, I noticed Mariano Rivera’s glove. You can see a screenshot linkand link.

    That would make an interesting article (if you haven’t already done it) – ballplayers displaying their faith on the field. Like Billy Martin wearing a cross on his NY hat, etc.

    [quote comment=”75027″]RE: Ricky Henderson wearing #35 for the A’s

    link

    …he also wore 35 when he played in Seattle

    link

    That game worn jersey is a fake.

    The logo and numbers are Kelly Green. The A’s switched to Forest Green in ’82. The logo isn’t even the right “A.”

    The A’s ripped off Detroit’s uniform that year. Home and road.

    There have been other drivers in the #5 car between Rudd and Bush, including
    Terry Labonte, but they all have driven for Hendrick.

    Update on Robert Svehla and number 67. After a quick Google search, I can confirm that he chose the number 67 when he was acquired by the Toronto Maple Leafs because his usual number 24 was taken by Bryan McCabe. Svehla acknowledged that he knew ’67 was the last year the Leafs won the Cup, but in the only direct quote I could find, he claimed to like “high numbers” and did not mention the 1967 connection to his choice of 67.

    Sorry for all the broken up Nascar posts, but when I had it all together the post just got eaten. Even when I broke it into pieces too. Can anyone tell us why this happens? It happens everytime I type up a comment with multiple links it seems.

    I just can’t get enough of these link. It’ll be nice to see them for another round instead of the Stars’ Get er’ Done hats.

    However, I will miss link.

    [quote comment=”75049″]Sorry for all the broken up Nascar posts, but when I had it all together the post just got eaten. Even when I broke it into pieces too. Can anyone tell us why this happens? It happens everytime I type up a comment with multiple links it seems.[/quote]

    You might want to try this: After you type up the comment (especially if it’s a long one) highlight it and then copy it. That way, if for some reason the comment gets eaten, you at least have the copy of it and don’t have to spend anoter 10-15 minutes re-typing it. Trust me, after I had a couple of long posts get messed up, I learned from experience.

    [quote comment=”75047″]Another Example is when Michael Waltrip left DEI, NAPA his sponsor went with him, but he had to switch link to link[/quote]

    And I bet he’s sorry he left (or was fired or whatever) . . .not much success for the #55 Napa Camry this year . .

    [quote comment=”75049″]Sorry for all the broken up Nascar posts, but when I had it all together the post just got eaten. Even when I broke it into pieces too. Can anyone tell us why this happens? It happens everytime I type up a comment with multiple links it seems.[/quote]

    Our spam filter doesn’t like posts with too many links, because lotsa links is often a sign of a spambot at work. I’m not sure what the link threshold is — I’ll ask Ek and try to post some guidelines. My apologies for the frustration.

    While watching the Yankees/Rays on ESPN last night, I noticed Mariano Rivera’s glove.

    “PHIL 4:13”

    This in reference to a commonly used Bible verse
    Philippians 4:13 “I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength”

    link;

    Hey Paul, not to distract you from the numbers thing but I saw this little quote on ESPN.com in an link about Omar Vizquel. “Johnnie LeMaster once responded to fan abuse by replacing “LEMASTER” on his jersey with “BOO.”
    My pathetic attempt at visual confimation was woefully short. Did you already know about this? Any pics?

    [quote comment=”75016″]And wasn’t the cartoon an homage to (or ripoff of) an ad for Maxell? Ahh, yes, good old Google:
    link

    Was it Maxell or Memorex? I always get the two confused.

    [quote comment=”74983″]Here is a link to Penn State’s new womens basketball coach holding up a jersey she will never wear.

    This brings me my moderatly uni related point, why do they have to be the “Lady Lions” as opposed to the Nittany Lions like the mens team. I hate that shit.[/quote]

    I got you beat,
    My high schools mascot are the baymen (Oyster bay, harbor, fishing etc. related) and the girls teams are called “Lady baymen”

    [quote comment=”75059″][quote comment=”75016″]And wasn’t the cartoon an homage to (or ripoff of) an ad for Maxell? Ahh, yes, good old Google:
    link

    Was it Maxell or Memorex? I always get the two confused.[/quote]

    Scratch that.

    [quote comment=”75054″][quote comment=”75049″]Sorry for all the broken up Nascar posts, but when I had it all together the post just got eaten. Even when I broke it into pieces too. Can anyone tell us why this happens? It happens everytime I type up a comment with multiple links it seems.[/quote]

    You might want to try this: After you type up the comment (especially if it’s a long one) highlight it and then copy it. That way, if for some reason the comment gets eaten, you at least have the copy of it and don’t have to spend anoter 10-15 minutes re-typing it. Trust me, after I had a couple of long posts get messed up, I learned from experience.[/quote]

    That is exactly what I do, thats how I retained the actuall content. I had to paste it into word and break it up. On a couple of tries even segments with just 1 link were getting eaten. I wonder if there is a minimum amount of time you have to wait between making posts…because that seems like a reasonable spam deterrent.

    [quote comment=”75039″][quote comment=”75027″]RE: Ricky Henderson wearing #35 for the A’s

    link

    …he also wore 35 when he played in Seattle

    link

    That game worn jersey is a fake.

    The logo and numbers are Kelly Green. The A’s switched to Forest Green in ’82. The logo isn’t even the right “A.”

    The A’s ripped off Detroit’s uniform that year. Home and road.[/quote]

    I don’t think that is a fake, link

    [quote comment=”75060″][quote comment=”74983″]Here is a link to Penn State’s new womens basketball coach holding up a jersey she will never wear.

    This brings me my moderatly uni related point, why do they have to be the “Lady Lions” as opposed to the Nittany Lions like the mens team. I hate that shit.[/quote]

    I got you beat,
    My high schools mascot are the baymen (Oyster bay, harbor, fishing etc. related) and the girls teams are called “Lady baymen”[/quote]
    I like that U of Delaware? are the fighting hens or something about hens.

    [quote comment=”75063″][quote comment=”75039″][quote comment=”75027″]RE: Ricky Henderson wearing #35 for the A’s

    link

    …he also wore 35 when he played in Seattle

    link

    That game worn jersey is a fake.

    The logo and numbers are Kelly Green. The A’s switched to Forest Green in ’82. The logo isn’t even the right “A.”

    The A’s ripped off Detroit’s uniform that year. Home and road.[/quote]

    I don’t think that is a fake, link[/quote]

    the “A” on the pullover is different from the button down. Look at the bottom right serif. The game worn jerey and dressed to the nines match.

    #64

    In an attempt to find a story as to why Hacksaw Reynolds wore #64, I found this …

    link

    It gives no insight as to why he wore #64, but it really funny.

    The dude pee’d himself on purpose.

    Re: #64 — According to link (scroll all the way down), Dwight Gooden wore #64 in spring training in 1993 because that was the number he had been assigned at his first ST in 1984, and he was hoping his ’84 self would rub off, apparently. That’s a really flimsy connection, IMHO, but if you don’t find anything better you might want to use it.

    [quote comment=”75064″][quote comment=”75060″][quote comment=”74983″]Here is a link to Penn State’s new womens basketball coach holding up a jersey she will never wear.

    This brings me my moderatly uni related point, why do they have to be the “Lady Lions” as opposed to the Nittany Lions like the mens team. I hate that shit.[/quote]

    I got you beat,
    My high schools mascot are the baymen (Oyster bay, harbor, fishing etc. related) and the girls teams are called “Lady baymen”[/quote]
    I like that U of Delaware? are the fighting hens or something about hens.[/quote]

    My college were the bantams… google it, I dare you. I also dare someone to have 2 more pathetic mascots than I did.

    [quote comment=”75031″]don’t know who those girls were, but texas tech doesn’t have a women’s swim team[/quote]

    Next thing you know, someone will say that none of those girls even know how to swim.

    [quote comment=”75036″]Numerology update: Thanks to the wonderful help that many of you have provided, only three spots remain to be filled on the roster: 63, 64, and 78.

    Thanks so much — and let’s not give up until it’s complete![/quote]
    Who else thinks NHL player Mike Commodore should wear #64?

    Along with the uniform # change for Pie, he also wore his pants down last night. He normally goes high-cuffed, but has worn pants down a few times. Anyone know why he chaned uni numbers?

    Thank God Pie went back to number 20 leaving link for us Mark Grace fans.

    Star Trek Voyager also have had link ranks for some of the crew.

    [quote comment=”75058″]Hey Paul, not to distract you from the numbers thing but I saw this little quote on ESPN.com in an link about Omar Vizquel. “Johnnie LeMaster once responded to fan abuse by replacing “LEMASTER” on his jersey with “BOO.”
    My pathetic attempt at visual confimation was woefully short. Did you already know about this? Any pics?[/quote]

    It’s a true story. The fans all laughed — then booed. I’ve never seen a photo, though.

    [quote comment=”75065″][quote comment=”75063″][quote comment=”75039″][quote comment=”75027″]RE: Ricky Henderson wearing #35 for the A’s

    link

    …he also wore 35 when he played in Seattle

    link

    That game worn jersey is a fake.

    The logo and numbers are Kelly Green. The A’s switched to Forest Green in ’82. The logo isn’t even the right “A.”

    The A’s ripped off Detroit’s uniform that year. Home and road.[/quote]

    I don’t think that is a fake, link[/quote]

    the “A” on the pullover is different from the button down. Look at the bottom right serif. The game worn jerey and dressed to the nines match.[/quote]

    That Dressed to the Nine image is not accurate. The pullover has the “A” that was used in the early ’70s. Whoever, put that image together didn’t feel it necessary to update such a minor detail. From ’74 on the A’s had a logo with a pointier seriph, except for their helmets.

    To this day, the “A” on their helmets has a blunted seriph. Check out the difference.

    link

    And that jersey is a fake. Look at the numbers. Their Kelly Green.

    I went to almost every home game back then. The A’s sucked and so did those uniforms.

    I was looking through the dressed to the nines page on retired uniform numbers and I’m having a hard time with this…
    link

    The Marlins retired number 5 in rememberence on Carl Barger…
    link

    But what connection did he have to the Marlins?

    [quote comment=”75015″]#35

    When Rickey Henderson started his illustrious career, his first number was 35. He was awesome with the number 35. I wanted to wear 35, because two of my favorite A’s wore it, Henderson and Vida Blue.

    When Henderson was traded to the yankees, he took the number 24, because Willie Mays was his hero. I always thought it was lame, because Henderson was Henderson and 35 was his number. When Rickey returned to the A’s, he kept the number 24. Which brings me to this …

    When the A’s retire his number, do they retire 35 or 24?[/quote]

    Good question, probably 24 because he won a World Series in ’89 with 24. Wasn’t he “the greatest” wearing 24?

    On the other hand, the A’s retired #9 for Reggie Jackson and when Reggie came back for a brief time before his career ended he wore 44. It was 9 he won a World Series in back in the early ’70s

    So I am thinking they will retire the number in which he accomplishes the most I guess.

    [quote comment=”75081″]I was looking through the dressed to the nines page on retired uniform numbers and I’m having a hard time with this…
    link

    The Marlins retired number 5 in rememberence on Carl Barger…
    link

    But what connection did he have to the Marlins?[/quote]

    it says right there in wikipedia he was the first president of the marlins but died before they had played a game… #5 was for joltin joe

    [quote comment=”74907″]How is the ‘Nucks wearing the awesome throwbacks, including Roberto Luongo having matching pads/glove/waffle and a killer mask not the main topic this AM?!
    With all due respect Paul as I’m sure the Star Trek topic was well researched and all ready to go, the Canucks fashion show should have made some mention, at least. Also, it is another example of just how clueless Gary Bettman and his adminastraiton is to not encourage throwbacks as a 3rd next year.
    Slainte’
    MIke[/quote]
    Don Cherry was quoted as saying “Why are the Canucks wearing the powder blues!?, they should’ve went with the black uniforms to make them look tough”! [I don’t think Vancouver has black in their color sheme].

    it says right there in wikipedia he was the first president of the marlins but died before they had played a game

    i guess i should of read all of it before i posted
    DUH

    [quote comment=”75075″][quote comment=”75036″]Numerology update: Thanks to the wonderful help that many of you have provided, only three spots remain to be filled on the roster: 63, 64, and 78.

    Thanks so much — and let’s not give up until it’s complete![/quote]
    Who else thinks NHL player Mike Commodore should wear #64?[/quote]

    I second that motion . . .

    [quote comment=”75060″][quote comment=”74983″]Here is a link to Penn State’s new womens basketball coach holding up a jersey she will never wear.

    This brings me my moderatly uni related point, why do they have to be the “Lady Lions” as opposed to the Nittany Lions like the mens team. I hate that shit.[/quote]

    I got you beat,
    My high schools mascot are the baymen (Oyster bay, harbor, fishing etc. related) and the girls teams are called “Lady baymen”[/quote]

    And I will not even comment on a local hs in Pine Bush, NY; where the male teams are ‘The Bushmen’, and the girls teams ‘LADY Bushmen”…..

    [quote comment=”75077″][quote comment=”75058″]Hey Paul, not to distract you from the numbers thing but I saw this little quote on ESPN.com in an link about Omar Vizquel. “Johnnie LeMaster once responded to fan abuse by replacing “LEMASTER” on his jersey with “BOO.”
    My pathetic attempt at visual confimation was woefully short. Did you already know about this? Any pics?[/quote]

    It’s a true story. The fans all laughed — then booed. I’ve never seen a photo, though.[/quote]

    I can find zero pictures – but have one packed away in a CD liner notes – of Phillies’ Dick Allen who scribbled BOO in the dirt around first base.

    How cool was it to see the Sabres and the Canucks clinch their opening round wins while wearing their retro jerseys?

    [quote comment=”75069″][quote comment=”75064″][quote comment=”75060″][quote comment=”74983″]Here is a link to Penn State’s new womens basketball coach holding up a jersey she will never wear.

    This brings me my moderatly uni related point, why do they have to be the “Lady Lions” as opposed to the Nittany Lions like the mens team. I hate that shit.[/quote]

    I got you beat,
    My high schools mascot are the baymen (Oyster bay, harbor, fishing etc. related) and the girls teams are called “Lady baymen”[/quote]
    I like that U of Delaware? are the fighting hens or something about hens.[/quote]

    My college were the bantams… google it, I dare you. I also dare someone to have 2 more pathetic mascots than I did.[/quote]

    I went to Western Maryland (it’c called McDaniel College now) We are the “Green Terror” No mascot, even…they used to have some fuzzy thing that looked like a green version of Sweetums from the Muppets. (Apparently, abck in the 30’s or 40s, there was an article about the football team coming down the hill, to the field, looking like a Green Terror, and it stuck.)

    and oh yes, on the original Trek, the dotted slashes on sleeves were Lieutenant j.g.’s….

    as bad a Trek geek as any….

    [quote comment=”75078″][quote comment=”75065″][quote comment=”75063″][quote comment=”75039″][quote comment=”75027″]RE: Ricky Henderson wearing #35 for the A’s

    link

    …he also wore 35 when he played in Seattle

    link

    That game worn jersey is a fake.

    The logo and numbers are Kelly Green. The A’s switched to Forest Green in ’82. The logo isn’t even the right “A.”

    The A’s ripped off Detroit’s uniform that year. Home and road.[/quote]

    I don’t think that is a fake, link[/quote]

    the “A” on the pullover is different from the button down. Look at the bottom right serif. The game worn jerey and dressed to the nines match.[/quote]

    That Dressed to the Nine image is not accurate. The pullover has the “A” that was used in the early ’70s. Whoever, put that image together didn’t feel it necessary to update such a minor detail. From ’74 on the A’s had a logo with a pointier seriph, except for their helmets.

    To this day, the “A” on their helmets has a blunted seriph. Check out the difference.

    link

    And that jersey is a fake. Look at the numbers. Their Kelly Green.

    I went to almost every home game back then. The A’s sucked and so did those uniforms.[/quote]

    I realized I said bottom right serif, but I meant to say bottom left…I don’t know if that changes anything, but in regards to shades of color, it all depends on screen contrast when viewing on a computer. I could go either way on that green, kelly of forest, it’s hard to tell.

    [quote comment=”75089″][quote comment=”75075″][quote comment=”75036″]Numerology update: Thanks to the wonderful help that many of you have provided, only three spots remain to be filled on the roster: 63, 64, and 78.

    Thanks so much — and let’s not give up until it’s complete![/quote]
    Who else thinks NHL player Mike Commodore should wear #64?[/quote]

    I second that motion . . .[/quote]

    i hope everyone got that one…
    summer games,
    space taxi
    dr j vs. larry bird
    all classics

    Sidney Crosby’s first NHL All Star jersey sold for $47,520 in an auction that earned $140,397 for Hockey Fights Cancer, as per ESPN. crazy. other notables were Brodeur $5,020, Joe Sakic, $4,679; and Ryan Miller, $4,880.
    I just find this interesting cause were the price differences based on the jersey design? or the player popularity..cause Rick Nash’s (Blue Jackets)jersey went up for $1,500 more than Vincent Lecavalier (Lightning). Tampa’s uni’s ain’t a sight for eyes by far, but Lecavalier is a much better player than Nash (as of now).

    [quote comment=”75031″]don’t know who those girls were, but texas tech doesn’t have a women’s swim team[/quote]

    Maybe they’re really men then

    [quote comment=”74894″]I’m surprised no one mentioned the Phillies- Astros game last night. They played their make up game from Jackie Robinson Day and they all wore #42[quote]

    Kinda fitting that the Phillies were the last team to have the Jackie tribute game since they were the last team to have any black players.

    Baseball should have prohibited the Phillies from having their ‘Tribute Night’ after the horrid treatment they gave Jackie in ’47.

    [quote comment=”75106″]
    Kinda fitting that the Phillies were the last team to have the Jackie tribute game since they were the last team to have any black players.[/quote]

    Actually, the Red Sox were the last team to integrate . . . a fine reason for Tom Yawkey to NOT be in the Baseball Hall of Fame

    [quote comment=”75068″]Re: #64 — According to link (scroll all the way down), Dwight Gooden wore #64 in spring training in 1993 because that was the number he had been assigned at his first ST in 1984, and he was hoping his ’84 self would rub off, apparently. That’s a really flimsy connection, IMHO, but if you don’t find anything better you might want to use it.[/quote]

    The same thing can be dome for 63. Tsuyoshi Shinjo changed his number from 1 to 63 so that he could end his career with the link.

    SI.com has started a gallery of some of the Tributes to Virginia Tech. Since I can never insert the link correctly, here it is… link

    [quote comment=”75091″]Has anyone seen this website?

    link

    I’ve poked around there before. It’s like a much more sterile version of Uni Watch. I did notice that whoever runs that site does link to this blog though (left hand column, scroll down). Decent, if incomplete, histories on uniforms and a lot of link rot. The site isn’t as well maintained. Still, there are some good resources on there.

    [quote comment=”75081″]I was looking through the dressed to the nines page on retired uniform numbers and I’m having a hard time with this…
    link

    i noticed on that page that the expos are the only team to have a single number retired twice (10-dawson and staub)

    [quote comment=”75069″][quote comment=”75064″][quote comment=”75060″][quote comment=”74983″]Here is a link to Penn State’s new womens basketball coach holding up a jersey she will never wear.

    This brings me my moderatly uni related point, why do they have to be the “Lady Lions” as opposed to the Nittany Lions like the mens team. I hate that shit.[/quote]

    I got you beat,
    My high schools mascot are the baymen (Oyster bay, harbor, fishing etc. related) and the girls teams are called “Lady baymen”[/quote]
    I like that U of Delaware? are the fighting hens or something about hens.[/quote]

    My college were the bantams… google it, I dare you. I also dare someone to have 2 more pathetic mascots than I did.[/quote]

    I have 3 pathetic mascots
    High School…we were the Ingots.
    College…Boilermaker. I guess it could have been worse (read Hoosier).
    Grad school…the Seawolves.

    [quote comment=”75091″]Has anyone seen this website?

    link
    Yeah…..but only because it’s in that REALLY long list of links on the right side of this page.

    [quote comment=”75113″][quote comment=”75091″]Has anyone seen this website?

    link

    INFIDEL![/quote]

    Ease up. I was just seeing if anyone has seen it.

    Here’s a good website …

    link

    fun fun fun

    [quote comment=”75112″][quote comment=”75081″]I was looking through the dressed to the nines page on retired uniform numbers and I’m having a hard time with this…
    link

    i noticed on that page that the expos are the only team to have a single number retired twice (10-dawson and staub)[/quote]

    The Yankees have also done this, for Bill Dickey and Yogi Berra.

    In ’82 and ’83 the A’s and Giants both had uni-related commercials. The plot of the A’s commercial was how they would choose the color of their jerseys based on scientific data. The Giants’ one was based on Frank Robinson choosing the new design.

    Both were funny.

    Any bay area natives remember these? I’ve tried finding them on youtube…no luck.

    [quote comment=”74964″]PS-Leave it to a DC Super hero. This would have never happened to a Marvel Superhero such as Spiderman….[/quote]
    uh, hate to break this to you bro, but Cap. Am is the ORIGINAL Marvel hero.

    I don’t have a screen shot, but has anyone noticed that Charlie Sheen’s Ricky Vaughan character is wearing two different uniforms in his commercial for an HDTV? Actual movie footage shows Sheen in the Indians home uniforms without side or shoulder striping. “Current” clips of him (while he’s talking to the camera) in the same ad show him wearing navy and red side and shoulder stripes. Anyone have a screen shot of this?

    Does anyone remember the A’s having red in their uniforms during sometime in the early ’80’s?Maybe ’81, ’82 or ’83? It’s not in the Dressed to the Nines database but I could swear they wore red and yellow trim on their unis sometime in that time frame.

    [quote comment=”75123″][quote comment=”74964″]PS-Leave it to a DC Super hero. This would have never happened to a Marvel Superhero such as Spiderman….[/quote]
    uh, hate to break this to you bro, but Cap. Am is the ORIGINAL Marvel hero.[/quote]
    i was going to say something smart ass about being 77 comments late in correcting HER. but i won’t.

    Re Rickey

    Now, I’ve always felt since they heavily weigh the Oakland years that they should retire 35 for Vida Blue since he was huge for the A’s in the 70’s dynasty years.

    That would leave 24 open for Rickey.

    However, I’ve heard rumblings that they may be doing something for Rickey this year, and it oughta be noted that noone has #35 for the A’s right now, but Shannon Stewart is wearing 24.

    I imagine they’ll leave it up to Rickey to choose.

    I’m hoping they do a Yankees/Berra/Dickey and retire 34 a second time for Dave Stewart soon, too.

    not dissing any Trek fans, but does anybody ever watch Conan? he’s a true disser of Trekky’s. It’s actually hilarious when he imitates Star Trek followers.

    Ribeiro will wear number 63 for the Dallas Stars, a combination of numbers that go back to his childhood.

    “Well I had 71 in Montreal,” he said. “It was the number they gave me so I kept it. Growing up I had three numbers – 6, 3 and 9. I don’t think I’ll be touching the 9 here so I figured I’d start new with a new number.”

    [quote comment=”75125″]I don’t have a screen shot, but has anyone noticed that Charlie Sheen’s Ricky Vaughan character is wearing two different uniforms in his commercial for an HDTV? Actual movie footage shows Sheen in the Indians home uniforms without side or shoulder striping. “Current” clips of him (while he’s talking to the camera) in the same ad show him wearing navy and red side and shoulder stripes. Anyone have a screen shot of this?[/quote]
    Holy Kenny Rogers hat!

    [quote comment=”75126″]Does anyone remember the A’s having red in their uniforms during sometime in the early ’80’s?Maybe ’81, ’82 or ’83? It’s not in the Dressed to the Nines database but I could swear they wore red and yellow trim on their unis sometime in that time frame.[/quote]

    You may be thinking of the time they wore Oakland Oaks throwback uniforms. I think it was ’97.

    Or maybe you saw it on a baseball card. Remember when Topps would airbrush new uniforms on traded players?

    [quote comment=”75125″]I don’t have a screen shot, but has anyone noticed that Charlie Sheen’s Ricky Vaughan character is wearing two different uniforms in his commercial for an HDTV? Actual movie footage shows Sheen in the Indians home uniforms without side or shoulder striping. “Current” clips of him (while he’s talking to the camera) in the same ad show him wearing navy and red side and shoulder stripes. Anyone have a screen shot of this?[/quote]

    Yeah, we kinda covered that about two weeks ago. Good observation.

    [quote comment=”74887″][quote comment=”74886″]Is the title image a Bloom County cartoon?[/quote]

    Yes — good catch.[/quote]

    If the connection between the title of this post and the name of the cartoon (Bloom county) was intentional, then I’ll make this blog my homepage…

    Sir Jock Strap: You are probably right. I did see it on the cover of an early ’80’s Topps Baseball Sticker Alblum. Probably was a poor airbrush job. Thanks

    [quote comment=”75094″][quote comment=”75069″][quote comment=”75064″][quote comment=”75060″][quote comment=”74983″]Here is a link to Penn State’s new womens basketball coach holding up a jersey she will never wear.

    This brings me my moderatly uni related point, why do they have to be the “Lady Lions” as opposed to the Nittany Lions like the mens team. I hate that shit.[/quote]

    I got you beat,
    My high schools mascot are the baymen (Oyster bay, harbor, fishing etc. related) and the girls teams are called “Lady baymen”[/quote]
    I like that U of Delaware? are the fighting hens or something about hens.[/quote]

    My college were the bantams… google it, I dare you. I also dare someone to have 2 more pathetic mascots than I did.[/quote]

    I went to Western Maryland (it’c called McDaniel College now) We are the “Green Terror” No mascot, even…they used to have some fuzzy thing that looked like a green version of Sweetums from the Muppets. (Apparently, abck in the 30’s or 40s, there was an article about the football team coming down the hill, to the field, looking like a Green Terror, and it stuck.)[/quote]

    Boo Western Maryland, as an Ursinus grad, and football player I learned to hate the Green Terror early in my career. The thing we hated the most was their Dallas Cowboy like way of always wearing white, and forcing the visiting team to wear their home jerseys. My junior year we wore our whites at home though in order to force them to break out their green jerseys. Just a little Centennial Conference uni info for everyone.

    [quote comment=”75127″]i was going to say something smart ass about being 77 comments late in correcting HER. but i won’t.[/quote]

    It’s like the people that come on here and say “did anybody notice that (insert uni observation here)”, when there was a lengthy discussion about it 60 or so posts ago.

    I at least have some respect for the people that admit “I’m too lazy to read through all the posts”.

    [quote comment=”75114″][quote comment=”75069″][quote comment=”75064″][quote comment=”75060″][quote comment=”74983″]Here is a link to Penn State’s new womens basketball coach holding up a jersey she will never wear.

    This brings me my moderatly uni related point, why do they have to be the “Lady Lions” as opposed to the Nittany Lions like the mens team. I hate that shit.[/quote]

    I got you beat,
    My high schools mascot are the baymen (Oyster bay, harbor, fishing etc. related) and the girls teams are called “Lady baymen”[/quote]
    I like that U of Delaware? are the fighting hens or something about hens.[/quote]

    My college were the bantams… google it, I dare you. I also dare someone to have 2 more pathetic mascots than I did.[/quote]

    I have 3 pathetic mascots
    High School…we were the Ingots.
    College…Boilermaker. I guess it could have been worse (read Hoosier).
    Grad school…the Seawolves.[/quote]

    Just for clarification, I think the Nittany Lion is the greatest mascot in the history of mascots. It is the perversion to Lady Lion that I can’t stand.

    University of Delaware is the Blue Hens.

    [quote comment=”75127″][quote comment=”75123″][quote comment=”74964″]PS-Leave it to a DC Super hero. This would have never happened to a Marvel Superhero such as Spiderman….[/quote]
    uh, hate to break this to you bro, but Cap. Am is the ORIGINAL Marvel hero.[/quote]
    i was going to say something smart ass about being 77 comments late in correcting HER. but i won’t.[/quote]
    Um, actually you did.

    [quote comment=”75137″][quote comment=”74887″][quote comment=”74886″]Is the title image a Bloom County cartoon?[/quote]

    Yes — good catch.[/quote]

    If the connection between the title of this post and the name of the cartoon (Bloom county) was intentional, then I’ll make this blog my homepage…[/quote]

    I cannot tell a lie: The Bloom(sday) connection was just a coincidence, not something intentional.

    But you should make Uni Watch your home page anyway….

    [quote comment=”75142″][quote comment=”75127″][quote comment=”75123″][quote comment=”74964″]PS-Leave it to a DC Super hero. This would have never happened to a Marvel Superhero such as Spiderman….[/quote]
    uh, hate to break this to you bro, but Cap. Am is the ORIGINAL Marvel hero.[/quote]
    i was going to say something smart ass about being 77 comments late in correcting HER. but i won’t.[/quote]
    Um, actually you did.[/quote]

    yah…and who ya callin “BRO” bro?! :)

    [quote comment=”75141″][quote comment=”75114″][quote comment=”75069″][quote comment=”75064″][quote comment=”75060″][quote comment=”74983″]Here is a link to Penn State’s new womens basketball coach holding up a jersey she will never wear.

    This brings me my moderatly uni related point, why do they have to be the “Lady Lions” as opposed to the Nittany Lions like the mens team. I hate that shit.[/quote]

    I got you beat,
    My high schools mascot are the baymen (Oyster bay, harbor, fishing etc. related) and the girls teams are called “Lady baymen”[/quote]
    I like that U of Delaware? are the fighting hens or something about hens.[/quote]

    My college were the bantams… google it, I dare you. I also dare someone to have 2 more pathetic mascots than I did.[/quote]

    I have 3 pathetic mascots
    High School…we were the Ingots.
    College…Boilermaker. I guess it could have been worse (read Hoosier).
    Grad school…the Seawolves.[/quote]

    Just for clarification, I think the Nittany Lion is the greatest mascot in the history of mascots. It is the perversion to Lady Lion that I can’t stand.

    University of Delaware is the Blue Hens.[/quote]

    St. Peter’s University in North Jersey is the Peacocks, and their lady’s teams are the Peahens.

    My alma mater (St. John’s University) is the Red Storm. I ask you: What in the God’s name is a Red Storm? I think it describes the wave of protest the school received from alumni and the student body about the unispired choice.

    OK, I get the fact that they didn’t want to offend Native Americans with the (vastly superior) Red Men, but honestly, did they ask their bottom-of-the-class marketing majors to come up with this crap? What was the pitch? “OK, you guys are failing your marketing class, but here’s a little way to get some extra credit…… come up with a new mascot for the school. The most unimaginative and unoriginal will get bumped up from F to D-“?

    I had a Quaker as a highschool mascot, simply a person dressed as the Quaker oats man with a huge head, and a Camel in college. So fierce.

    [quote comment=”75142″][quote comment=”75127″][quote comment=”75123″][quote comment=”74964″]PS-Leave it to a DC Super hero. This would have never happened to a Marvel Superhero such as Spiderman….[/quote]
    uh, hate to break this to you bro, but Cap. Am is the ORIGINAL Marvel hero.[/quote]
    i was going to say something smart ass about being 77 comments late in correcting HER. but i won’t.[/quote]
    Um, actually you did.[/quote]
    good point TP, it was WAY worse the first time i typed it though.

    St. Peter’s University in North Jersey is the Peacocks, and their lady’s teams are the Peahens.
    This makes sense, it’s better than “lady cocks” dontcha think!?! What does USC call their women’s teams?

    [quote comment=”74993″]In response to number 61: What are you so bitter about? You do not need to read the blog and if you think it ought to be differently done please start your own and control it as you wish.

    On a different note I will tell you what I am bitter about: the logos of the major schools in my state have each been changed in recent years for marketing purposes, each for the worse. I cannot stand the santitized dullness that marketing majors have been foisting upon us lately. Please try a little imagination and taste.

    Oh and by the way I live in Oregon so you know the schools that I am talking about.[/quote]
    The O is better than the interlocking UO. Anything OS (nolonger a university?) is crap.

    [quote comment=”75153″]St. Peter’s University in North Jersey is the

    Peacocks, and their lady’s teams are the Peahens.
    This makes sense, it’s better than “lady cocks” dontcha think!?! What does USC call their women’s teams?[/quote]
    blondes with c****?

    [quote comment=”75150″]I had a Quaker as a highschool mascot, simply a person dressed as the Quaker oats man with a huge head, and a Camel in college. So fierce.[/quote]

    But you know what? You can at least attempt to make the Quaker or the camel look bad-ass. What the hell can you do with a storm?!?!?!?

    And what kind of motto can you use? “We’re going to rain on your parade”?

    [quote comment=”75069″][quote comment=”75064″][quote comment=”75060″][quote comment=”74983″]Here is a link to Penn State’s new womens basketball coach holding up a jersey she will never wear.

    This brings me my moderatly uni related point, why do they have to be the “Lady Lions” as opposed to the Nittany Lions like the mens team. I hate that shit.[/quote]

    I got you beat,
    My high schools mascot are the baymen (Oyster bay, harbor, fishing etc. related) and the girls teams are called “Lady baymen”[/quote]
    I like that U of Delaware? are the fighting hens or something about hens.[/quote]

    My college were the bantams… google it, I dare you. I also dare someone to have 2 more pathetic mascots than I did.[/quote]

    I go to NYU, home of the ……..(wait for it)……..

    …….

    ……….

    ………….The Fightin’ Violets.

    Now that’s pretty lame!

    [quote comment=”75139″][quote comment=”75094″][quote comment=”75069″][quote comment=”75064″][quote comment=”75060″][quote comment=”74983″]Here is a link to Penn State’s new womens basketball coach holding up a jersey she will never wear.

    This brings me my moderatly uni related point, why do they have to be the “Lady Lions” as opposed to the Nittany Lions like the mens team. I hate that shit.[/quote]

    I got you beat,
    My high schools mascot are the baymen (Oyster bay, harbor, fishing etc. related) and the girls teams are called “Lady baymen”[/quote]
    I like that U of Delaware? are the fighting hens or something about hens.[/quote]

    My college were the bantams… google it, I dare you. I also dare someone to have 2 more pathetic mascots than I did.[/quote]

    I went to Western Maryland (it’c called McDaniel College now) We are the “Green Terror” No mascot, even…they used to have some fuzzy thing that looked like a green version of Sweetums from the Muppets. (Apparently, abck in the 30’s or 40s, there was an article about the football team coming down the hill, to the field, looking like a Green Terror, and it stuck.)[/quote]

    Boo Western Maryland, as an Ursinus grad, and football player I learned to hate the Green Terror early in my career. The thing we hated the most was their Dallas Cowboy like way of always wearing white, and forcing the visiting team to wear their home jerseys. My junior year we wore our whites at home though in order to force them to break out their green jerseys. Just a little Centennial Conference uni info for everyone.[/quote]

    When was that? I was class of 98. They wore Green at home when I was there, and after I graduated, everytime I’ve been back for Homecoming or a playoff game, they’ve been in Green.

    In the Champion’s League today, Man U is taking on Milan. There’s a Brazilian named Kaká who plays for Milan and his jersey link.

    For the Brazilian national team, they link.

    [quote comment=”75114″]
    I have 3 pathetic mascots
    High School…we were the Ingots.
    College…Boilermaker. I guess it could have been worse (read Hoosier).
    Grad school…the Seawolves.[/quote]

    Oh, so we’re gonna play this game, are we?
    Had it not been for my dad’s well-timed job transfer, I would’ve gone to a high school whose mascot was the Imps. That’s right, Imps. Defined by Google, (1) “one who is playfully mischievous”, (2) a term for an imaginary being similar to a fairy, frequently used in folklore.”. I would’ve been a Cary High School Imp. The Cary Imps. Or according to the definition, the CARY FAIRIES!
    Thankfully, we moved and I was a Marauder instead. Then I went to college and was a Horned Frog and wore purple for 4 years. I’m not ashamed.

    Paul —

    Were you as annoyed as I was that half the TNG cast was, for no apparent reason, wearing the DS9 uniforms in Generations?

    [quote comment=”75120″][quote comment=”75112″][quote comment=”75081″]I was looking through the dressed to the nines page on retired uniform numbers and I’m having a hard time with this…
    link

    i noticed on that page that the expos are the only team to have a single number retired twice (10-dawson and staub)[/quote]

    The Yankees have also done this, for Bill Dickey and Yogi Berra.[/quote]
    Which was #8, by the way.

    [quote comment=”75060″][quote comment=”74983″]Here is a link to Penn State’s new womens basketball coach holding up a jersey she will never wear.

    This brings me my moderatly uni related point, why do they have to be the “Lady Lions” as opposed to the Nittany Lions like the mens team. I hate that shit.[/quote]

    I got you beat,
    My high schools mascot are the baymen (Oyster bay, harbor, fishing etc. related) and the girls teams are called “Lady baymen”[/quote]

    Even worse than that. I go to University of South Florida where we got the Lady Bulls. Lion are gender neutral and female baymen (whatever that job is) could be called that but my college gives female a guaranteed body part that they’re not supposed to have.

    [quote comment=”75148″]St. Peter’s University in North Jersey is the Peacocks, and their lady’s teams are the Peahens.[/quote]

    wow. you really set yourself up for some serious rebuttals as to why the womens team is referred to the peaHENS and not by something else, when the mens team is the peacocks.

    [quote comment=”75003″]Pardon me while I geek out on everyone, but what a wonderful convergence of two of my passions in this post — uniforms and Star Trek.

    My favorite Trek uniforms are the ones from the movies Star Trek II to Star Trek VII, which had the virtue of being more, well, uniform. All officers wore maroon jackets and the department colors were more subtle, on a shoulder sash, undershirt collars and piping on the pants. Department colors were changed to white, gold, olive green, gray and red.

    The Next Generation brought back some of the color sensibilities of the Original Series, but turned one convention on its ear by putting command officers in red. As you may remember, the “red shirts” from the Original Series were security or engineering guys. With the exception of Scotty, their main purpose was mainly to be fodder for aliens to kill.

    I’ve probably bored some of you already, so I’ll return you to your scheduled program.

    P.S. Have I missed the details of the May 12 UniWatch convocation? I’m planning on being there![/quote]

    I agree; Bob Fletcher’s design for The Wrath of Khan et seq were by far the best Trek uniforms. It annoyed me to no end that whenever they showed them on TNG, they were worn without the turtleneck, which looked terrible.

    If you stare at this picture long enough, you may notice the small San Diego Padres uniform in the upper right hand corner. Great optical illusion!

    link

    Don Cherry was quoted as saying “Why are the Canucks wearing the powder blues!?, they should’ve went with the black uniforms to make them look tough”! [I don’t think Vancouver has black in their color sheme].

    Cherry was undoubtedly referring to the infamous “V” uniforms, which came in yellow (home) and black (road): link

    [quote comment=”75173″]I agree; Bob Fletcher’s design for The Wrath of Khan et seq were by far the best Trek uniforms. It annoyed me to no end that whenever they showed them on TNG, they were worn without the turtleneck, which looked terrible.[/quote]

    They were a huge improvement over the pastels they used for Star Trek: TMP.

    And while people may knock it as not being uni-related, it most certainly is: It’s like a team that has a classic design, then tries to update the uniforms and totally messes it up, then dumps those re-designed unis after one season.

    Who else thinks NHL player Mike Commodore should wear #64?

    I do, and as a huge R.E.M. fan I always thought Bruce Driver should have worn 8. The back of that jersey would have been awesome.

    Dan Wheeler, of course, should be wearing 18. It may not look that good on the shirt, but it would be a hoot on the roster sheet.

    Here at the University at Buffalo we also have the Bulls as our mascot. UB’s women’s team originally went by the nickname Lady Blues during the mid-70s but changed to the Royals (after the school colors) in 1977 as a result of a student contest conducted in the student newspaper. The original logo was a crown with the initials UB incorporated into the points, and in 1978-79, the script Royals was substituted for the crown. In the summer of 1997, the women’s teams changed to the Bulls to unite the men’s and women’s athletic programs.

    I still love the mascot for UC Santa Cruz…….Banana Slugs……..

    link

    And yes, USC’s women’s teams are still the Gamecocks. They could’ve totally been the Gamehens!

    I go to NYU, home of the ……..(wait for it)……..

    …….

    ……….

    ………….The Fightin’ Violets.

    Now that’s pretty lame!

    umm. a few of the UAA conference teams have bad nicknames.
    NYU Fightin’ Violets
    Chicago Maroons
    Carnegie Mellon Tartans
    Brandeis Judges

    i mean, what the hell?

    another thing about mascots: what if the colors and mascot don’t match?
    i went to Huron and we were the tigers. too bad our colors were a complete knockoff of ohio state.

    [quote comment=”75169″]Paul —

    Were you as annoyed as I was that half the TNG cast was, for no apparent reason, wearing the DS9 uniforms in Generations?[/quote]

    At least they got their acts together for First Contact and all wore the current DS9 unis: The gray shoulder-area with the colored turtlenecks.

    That was always my favorite Next-Gen uniform, because it gave the appearance of, well, uniformity, with everyone having the same style and color of uniform, with a small difference in the color of the turtlenecks denoting what divisoin they were a part of. Classy and simple.

    There is a local soccer team for over-aged men who call themselves The Rusty Boots.

    [quote comment=”75185″]umm. a few of the UAA conference teams have bad nicknames.
    NYU Fightin’ Violets
    Chicago Maroons
    Carnegie Mellon Tartans
    Brandeis Judges

    i mean, what the hell?[/quote]

    Well, the Brandeis one I’m pretty sure is based on the late Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis.

    I mean, it’s a clever play on words, and I wouldn’t call it a bad nickname per se, but what would your mascot be? An old white guy in judge’s robes?

    [quote comment=”75149″]My alma mater (St. John’s University) is the Red Storm. I ask you: What in the God’s name is a Red Storm? I think it describes the wave of protest the school received from alumni and the student body about the unispired choice.

    OK, I get the fact that they didn’t want to offend Native Americans with the (vastly superior) Red Men, but honestly, did they ask their bottom-of-the-class marketing majors to come up with this crap? What was the pitch? “OK, you guys are failing your marketing class, but here’s a little way to get some extra credit…… come up with a new mascot for the school. The most unimaginative and unoriginal will get bumped up from F to D-“?[/quote]
    You can ask the same question about the Crimson Tide, Green Wave, Mean Green, Orange, or Cardinal….but at least most of these names have history behind them.

    [quote comment=”75192″]You can ask the same question about the Crimson Tide, Green Wave, Mean Green, Orange, or Cardinal….but at least most of these names have history behind them.[/quote]

    And that’s what we don’t have with that nickname: History. It’s like, let’s pick the most vanilla-sounding non-offensive nickname we can come up with, and throw Red (our school color) in front of it……

    If you had to pick one clever professional sports nickname, who would it be-from the NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL.

    [quote comment=”74947″]LOVE the Canucks originals. Sabres closed out NY Islanders in their originals too. Throwbacks rock. Leave it to Reebok to change the one thing no one was complaining about with hockey….the hockey sweater.

    Heres hoping for a Sabres/Canucks all 1970 cup final. Bust out the throwbacks all around, home and away.[/quote]
    Nah, it should only be an Original Six final.
    Rangers/Red Wings. From a uniform standpoint, a true classic.

    [quote comment=”75174″]If you stare at this picture long enough, you may notice the small San Diego Padres uniform in the upper right hand corner. Great optical illusion!

    link

    Thank you Mr. Met for the NSFW link.

    Thank you.

    Tongue in cheek, based on the two major message topics today…

    Paul, if you can’t find any reasons for uniform numbers 63 & 64 — all we need to do is create a rift in the space/time continuum and forward ourselves to the year 2012. By then, Don Zimmer will have won both #63 and #64.

    [quote comment=”75199″][quote comment=”75174″]If you stare at this picture long enough, you may notice the small San Diego Padres uniform in the upper right hand corner. Great optical illusion!

    link

    Thank you Mr. Met for the NSFW link.

    Thank you.[/quote]

    A girl in a thong is not safe for work? Who are your bosses? Quakers?

    RE: Western Maryland (McDaniel)

    I was class of 2003 and every year we played you guys at home we had to wear our dark jerseys, maybe it was just against us, and not across the board, but it was irritating considering we wore all black then jersey’s, pants, and high socks.

    [quote comment=”75185″]I go to NYU, home of the ……..(wait for it)……..

    …….

    ……….

    ………….The Fightin’ Violets.

    Now that’s pretty lame!

    umm. a few of the UAA conference teams have bad nicknames.
    NYU Fightin’ Violets
    Chicago Maroons
    Carnegie Mellon Tartans
    Brandeis Judges

    i mean, what the hell?

    another thing about mascots: what if the colors and mascot don’t match?
    i went to Huron and we were the tigers. too bad our colors were a complete knockoff of ohio state.[/quote]

    Well out on Long Island there’s the Hofstra Pride.
    Pride?
    Apparently it alludes to the lions on the school’s crest. P-C B-S.
    We want the original nickname … of course … your Hofstra Flying Dutchmen!

    Does anyone remember the A’s having red in their uniforms during sometime in the early ’80’s?Maybe ‘81, ‘82 or ‘83? It’s not in the Dressed to the Nines database but I could swear they wore red and yellow trim on their unis sometime in that time frame.

    You may be thinking of the time they wore Oakland Oaks throwback uniforms. I think it was ‘97.

    Or maybe you saw it on a baseball card. Remember when Topps would airbrush new uniforms on traded players?

    I couldn’t find the commercials you were talking about, but check out this link. Doesn’t it make you want to root for SF’s best?

    I know the heading reference for once! I threw the book across the room as I read it because I hated it so much. Still, it’s nice to see it came in handy for something.

    By the way, I have never liked Star Trek, so I thought Paul was joking at first about the gold stripes. Fascinating.

    [quote comment=”75202″]RE: Western Maryland (McDaniel)

    I was class of 2003 and every year we played you guys at home we had to wear our dark jerseys, maybe it was just against us, and not across the board, but it was irritating considering we wore all black then jersey’s, pants, and high socks.[/quote]

    I guess it was just against you…to take you out of your Ravens-esque black unitards! lol.

    [quote comment=”75159″][quote comment=”75150″]I had a Quaker as a highschool mascot, simply a person dressed as the Quaker oats man with a huge head, and a Camel in college. So fierce.[/quote]

    But you know what? You can at least attempt to make the Quaker or the camel look bad-ass. What the hell can you do with a storm?!?!?!?

    And what kind of motto can you use? “We’re going to rain on your parade”?[/quote]

    My high school was the Golden Gales. The football team had little tornadoes on their helmets. Wooo, fierce.

    My son’s college is the Quakers — err, that’s the Fightin’ Quakers, I guess.

    [quote comment=”74934″]

    After all, it worked for the Minnesota Wild. They’re keeping the red jerseys, and ditching the green. The prevailing rumour out of Edmonton is that they will use their third jersey design as their home jersey as well.[/quote]

    Woo-hoo! Sorry, Teebz. Your post was full of enlightened information, but this last paragraph is what got me stoked.

    [quote comment=”75168″][quote comment=”75114″]
    I have 3 pathetic mascots
    High School…we were the Ingots.
    College…Boilermaker. I guess it could have been worse (read Hoosier).
    Grad school…the Seawolves.[/quote]

    Oh, so we’re gonna play this game, are we?
    Had it not been for my dad’s well-timed job transfer, I would’ve gone to a high school whose mascot was the Imps. That’s right, Imps. Defined by Google, (1) “one who is playfully mischievous”, (2) a term for an imaginary being similar to a fairy, frequently used in folklore.”. I would’ve been a Cary High School Imp. The Cary Imps. Or according to the definition, the CARY FAIRIES!
    Thankfully, we moved and I was a Marauder instead. Then I went to college and was a Horned Frog and wore purple for 4 years. I’m not ashamed.[/quote]

    I think I can top that. Fort Collins Colorado is home to the Colorado State Rams. Ft. Collins High School’s teams are known as the Lambkins.

    [quote comment=”74985″]No way anyone can complain about the University of San Diego Torero’s womens beach volleyball uniforms…

    link

    I think that we will need to see the rest of the uniforms in order to be certain.

    [quote comment=”75197″]If you had to pick one clever professional sports nickname, who would it be-from the NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL.[/quote]

    I’d say Rockets/Avalanche/Rockies/Dolphins

    Wow, I picked two Colorado teams. No one better choose the Ducks or Mighty Ducks……

    [quote comment=”75188″][quote comment=”75185″]umm. a few of the UAA conference teams have bad nicknames.
    NYU Fightin’ Violets
    Chicago Maroons
    Carnegie Mellon Tartans
    Brandeis Judges

    i mean, what the hell?[/quote]

    Well, the Brandeis one I’m pretty sure is based on the late Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis.

    I mean, it’s a clever play on words, and I wouldn’t call it a bad nickname per se, but what would your mascot be? An old white guy in judge’s robes?[/quote]

    And Andrew Carnegie was a Scotsman who emigrated to the States, so that explains the ‘Tartans’.

    [quote comment=”75215″][quote comment=”74985″]No way anyone can complain about the University of San Diego Torero’s womens beach volleyball uniforms…

    link

    I think that we will need to see the rest of the uniforms in order to be certain.[/quote]

    Any word if they’re roommates???? In a one room apartment? haha

    The USC Women’s teams are the Women of Troy. Almost makes violets sound like a good nickname.

    My undergrad college’s (Ithaca) teams were/are nicknamed the Bombers. Some bright bulbs on the faculty while I was there wanted to drop the nickname since it was too violent, and change to the Big Blue. As Cornell (the Big Red) was on the other side of town, this smacked of a major-league inferiority complex. A student humor magazine recemmended changing the name to the Daisies instead.
    Sorry for the long, almost pointless story. The Fighting Violets reminded me of it.

    [quote comment=”75075″][quote comment=”75036″]Numerology update: Thanks to the wonderful help that many of you have provided, only three spots remain to be filled on the roster: 63, 64, and 78.

    Thanks so much — and let’s not give up until it’s complete![/quote]
    Who else thinks NHL player Mike Commodore should wear #64?[/quote]
    I’ve always entertained that thought. In NHL video games, I always switch his number to 64.

    [quote comment=”75197″]If you had to pick one clever professional sports nickname, who would it be-from the NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL.[/quote]

    I’m not from there and wasn’t a fan, but I always thought the Minnesota North Stars had the coolest name (and logo) around. Although as long as we’re talking NHL, the St. Louis Blues works well too.

    [quote comment=”75201″][quote comment=”75199″][quote comment=”75174″]If you stare at this picture long enough, you may notice the small San Diego Padres uniform in the upper right hand corner. Great optical illusion!

    link

    Thank you Mr. Met for the NSFW link.

    Thank you.[/quote]

    A girl in a thong is not safe for work? Who are your bosses? Quakers?[/quote]

    Hey, since when did we Quakers become the poster people for prudery? Maybe you meant to say Mormons. :-)

    On a different note I will tell you what I am bitter about: the logos of the major schools in my state have each been changed in recent years for marketing purposes, each for the worse. I cannot stand the santitized dullness that marketing majors have been foisting upon us lately. Please try a little imagination and taste.

    Oh and by the way I live in Oregon so you know the schools that I am talking about.

    The O is better than the interlocking UO. Anything OS (nolonger a university?) is crap.

    I disagree about the O. It was sort of neat when it came out but the reason the University changed logos was that they could not sell any gear with the Duck outside of Portland and Eugene. The O is simply too corporate looking but at least Donald was not replaced with Roboduck- link

    [quote comment=”75114″]
    I have 3 pathetic mascots
    High School…we were the Ingots.
    College…Boilermaker. I guess it could have been worse (read Hoosier).
    Grad school…the Seawolves.[/quote]

    Jill…who says the Boilermakers are pathetic? :P Certainly not me.

    [quote comment=”75219″]The USC Women’s teams are the Women of Troy. Almost makes violets sound like a good nickname.
    quote]
    Since we were talking about pea-cocks I was referring to the University of South Carolina game-cocks.

    [quote comment=”75216″][quote comment=”75197″]If you had to pick one clever professional sports nickname, who would it be-from the NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL.[/quote]

    I’d say Rockets/Avalanche/Rockies/Dolphins

    Wow, I picked two Colorado teams.

    No one better choose the Ducks or Mighty Ducks……[/quote]
    k here’s mine..Bucks(good hunting in Wisconsin)..Islanders(location, location, location)..Brewers(beer town)..Steelers(steel town)
    Wow, I picked two Milwaukee teams. BTW, what does a Laker have to do with Los Angeles???

    [quote comment=”75204″]Does anyone remember the A’s having red in their uniforms during sometime in the early ’80’s?Maybe ‘81, ‘82 or ‘83? It’s not in the Dressed to the Nines database but I could swear they wore red and yellow trim on their unis sometime in that time frame.

    You may be thinking of the time they wore Oakland Oaks throwback uniforms. I think it was ‘97.

    Or maybe you saw it on a baseball card. Remember when Topps would airbrush new uniforms on traded players?

    I couldn’t find the commercials you were talking about, but check out this link. Doesn’t it make you want to root for SF’s best?[/quote]

    Thanks for searching.

    That link made me vomit.

    Go A’s.

    East Bay to my core, dude. Sorry.

    At least we have the Warriors.

    [quote comment=”75203″]Well out on Long Island there’s the Hofstra Pride.
    Pride?
    Apparently it alludes to the lions on the school’s crest. P-C B-S.
    We want the original nickname … of course … your Hofstra Flying Dutchmen![/quote]

    Was the decision made in order to more closely associate the nickname to the school mascot? Or was it made because of an outpouring of negative letters from the huge Dutch population in our country?

    [quote comment=”75229″][quote comment=”75216″][quote comment=”75197″]If you had to pick one clever professional sports nickname, who would it be-from the NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL.[/quote]

    I’d say Rockets/Avalanche/Rockies/Dolphins

    Wow, I picked two Colorado teams.

    No one better choose the Ducks or Mighty Ducks……[/quote]
    k here’s mine..Bucks(good hunting in Wisconsin)..Islanders(location, location, location)..Brewers(beer town)..Steelers(steel town)
    Wow, I picked two Milwaukee teams. BTW, what does a Laker have to do with Los Angeles???[/quote]
    You’re just putting gas on Minna’s fire.

    Hey Paul,

    Do you think the dude that made that super cool Tekulve shirt could make a shirt out of one of these images (all cool like?)

    link

    It could say something like 868 Home Run King of the World.

    Ya know … in protest of Bonds “breaking” the record.

    [quote comment=”75229″]BTW, what does a Laker have to do with Los Angeles???[/quote]

    I am the farthest thing from a basketball fan, but weren’t the Lakers originally situated in Minnesota? Hence, the Great Lakes area?

    Same thing with the Utah Jazz. When you think of Utah, you don’t normally associate it with jazz, until you realize that the Jazz were originally situated in New Orleans.

    [quote comment=”75229″][quote comment=”75216″][quote comment=”75197″]If you had to pick one clever professional sports nickname, who would it be-from the NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL.[/quote]

    I’d say Rockets/Avalanche/Rockies/Dolphins

    Wow, I picked two Colorado teams.

    No one better choose the Ducks or Mighty Ducks……[/quote]
    k here’s mine..Bucks(good hunting in Wisconsin)..Islanders(location, location, location)..Brewers(beer town)..Steelers(steel town)
    Wow, I picked two Milwaukee teams. BTW, what does a Laker have to do with Los Angeles???[/quote]

    Good choices. I was split between Rockies and Brewers.

    [quote comment=”75232″][quote comment=”75229″][quote comment=”75216″][quote comment=”75197″]If you had to pick one clever professional sports nickname, who would it be-from the NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL.[/quote]

    I’d say Rockets/Avalanche/Rockies/Dolphins

    Wow, I picked two Colorado teams.

    No one better choose the Ducks or Mighty Ducks……[/quote]
    k here’s mine..Bucks(good hunting in Wisconsin)..Islanders(location, location, location)..Brewers(beer town)..Steelers(steel town)
    Wow, I picked two Milwaukee teams. BTW, what does a Laker have to do with Los Angeles???[/quote]
    You’re just putting gas on Minna’s fire.[/quote]

    The Rockets works for Houston for the same reason Astros does: NASA’s large presence near the city. But the Rockets actually came into being in San Diego before moving to Houston in 1971.

    link

    So methinks that was actually just a happy coincidence. Also, interestingly there were the Denver Rockets which existed in two stints in the ABA.

    link

    [quote comment=”75229″] BTW, what does a Laker have to do with Los Angeles???[/quote]

    Nothing. The Lakers moved to LA from Minneapolis, and took the name with them. Dodgers (“Trolley Dodgers”) makes no sense in LA, either, if you think about it. (Or Utah Jazz, etc.)

    [quote comment=”75214″][quote comment=”75168″][quote comment=”75114″]
    I have 3 pathetic mascots
    High School…we were the Ingots.
    College…Boilermaker. I guess it could have been worse (read Hoosier).
    Grad school…the Seawolves.[/quote]

    Oh, so we’re gonna play this game, are we?
    Had it not been for my dad’s well-timed job transfer, I would’ve gone to a high school whose mascot was the Imps. That’s right, Imps. Defined by Google, (1) “one who is playfully mischievous”, (2) a term for an imaginary being similar to a fairy, frequently used in folklore.”. I would’ve been a Cary High School Imp. The Cary Imps. Or according to the definition, the CARY FAIRIES!
    Thankfully, we moved and I was a Marauder instead. Then I went to college and was a Horned Frog and wore purple for 4 years. I’m not ashamed.[/quote]

    I think I can top that. Fort Collins Colorado is home to the Colorado State Rams. Ft. Collins High School’s teams are known as the Lambkins.[/quote]

    The same thing happens at Penn State. The local high school, State College High are the “Little Lions”. Yes before Larry Johnson was a Nittany Lion and a Chief he was a Little Lion…These sort of names should only be relegated to pee-wee football.

    [quote comment=”75240″][quote comment=”75229″] BTW, what does a Laker have to do with Los Angeles???[/quote]

    Nothing. The Lakers moved to LA from Minneapolis, and took the name with them. Dodgers (“Trolley Dodgers”) makes no sense in LA, either, if you think about it. (Or Utah Jazz, etc.)[/quote]

    The worst has to be the Memphis Grizzlies…if they changed the name to blue suede shoes when they moved from vancuver even that would have been better.

    [quote comment=”75167″]In the Champion’s League today, Man U is taking on Milan. There’s a Brazilian named Kaká who plays for Milan and his jersey link.

    For the Brazilian national team, they link.[/quote]
    maybe they don’t have the right alphabet but it’s non excusable

    [quote comment=”75240″][quote comment=”75229″] BTW, what does a Laker have to do with Los Angeles???[/quote]

    Nothing. The Lakers moved to LA from Minneapolis, and took the name with them. Dodgers (“Trolley Dodgers”) makes no sense in LA, either, if you think about it. (Or Utah Jazz, etc.)[/quote]

    When I was very young, before I knew that the Lakers had moved to L.A. from Minneapolis, I thought the name “Lakers” referred to the city abbreviation — y’know, “L.A.kers.” I still think it’s kinda cool that they moved to the one city where this (mis)interpretation could work.

    Before the Toronto Raptors were born, there was speculation that the team was gonna be called the Toronto Great Lakers, pretty cool cause the city is surrounded by the Great Lakes. But Jurassic Park was huge back in the day they were born, so they went with ‘the times’, instead of ‘the meaning’ behind the nickname.

    [quote comment=”75222″][quote comment=”75075″][quote comment=”75036″]Numerology update: Thanks to the wonderful help that many of you have provided, only three spots remain to be filled on the roster: 63, 64, and 78.

    Thanks so much — and let’s not give up until it’s complete![/quote]
    Who else thinks NHL player Mike Commodore should wear #64?[/quote]
    I’ve always entertained that thought. In NHL video games, I always switch his number to 64.[/quote]

    Or he could wear #20 and change his name to Vic…

    [quote comment=”75251″]Before the Toronto Raptors were born, there was speculation that the team was gonna be called the Toronto Great Lakers, pretty cool cause the city is surrounded by the Great Lakes. But Jurassic Park was huge back in the day they were born, so they went with ‘the times’, instead of ‘the meaning’ behind the nickname.[/quote]
    I remember this, I think the next pro team should be called Spiderman 3.

    [quote comment=”75251″]Before the Toronto Raptors were born, there was speculation that the team was gonna be called the Toronto Great Lakers, pretty cool cause the city is surrounded by the Great Lakes. But Jurassic Park was huge back in the day they were born, so they went with ‘the times’, instead of ‘the meaning’ behind the nickname.[/quote]

    Which reminds me of something my mom said during the 76ers-Raptors playoff series about 6 years ago: “Raptors? Who names their team that? 76ers is classy, as it has to do with Philly. What does a Raptor have to do with Toronto?”

    [quote comment=”75254″][quote comment=”75251″]Before the Toronto Raptors were born, there was speculation that the team was gonna be called the Toronto Great Lakers, pretty cool cause the city is surrounded by the Great Lakes. But Jurassic Park was huge back in the day they were born, so they went with ‘the times’, instead of ‘the meaning’ behind the nickname.[/quote]

    Which reminds me of something my mom said during the 76ers-Raptors playoff series about 6 years ago: “Raptors? Who names their team that? 76ers is classy, as it has to do with Philly. What does a Raptor have to do with Toronto?”[/quote]

    Boy, there’s something you don’t hear often when referring to Philly, “classy.” (Come on…you know about 50 of you thought the same thing when you read it!)

    [quote comment=”75227″][quote comment=”75114″]
    I have 3 pathetic mascots
    High School…we were the Ingots.
    College…Boilermaker. I guess it could have been worse (read Hoosier).
    Grad school…the Seawolves.[/quote]

    Jill…who says the Boilermakers are pathetic? :P Certainly not me.[/quote]

    The link are not really good. A train made out of a golf cart and a guy with a ceramic head. Love the school and its teams but hate the mascots. Not to mention just thinking of the drink makes me queasy.

    [quote comment=”75244″][quote comment=”75240″][quote comment=”75229″] BTW, what does a Laker have to do with Los Angeles???[/quote]

    Nothing. The Lakers moved to LA from Minneapolis, and took the name with them. Dodgers (“Trolley Dodgers”) makes no sense in LA, either, if you think about it. (Or Utah Jazz, etc.)[/quote]

    The worst has to be the Memphis Grizzlies…if they changed the name to blue suede shoes when they moved from vancuver even that would have been better.[/quote]

    Actually, the link of 1974-75 were link, and had a link.

    [quote comment=”75251″]Before the Toronto Raptors were born, there was speculation that the team was gonna be called the Toronto Great Lakers, pretty cool cause the city is surrounded by the Great Lakes. But Jurassic Park was huge back in the day they were born, so they went with ‘the times’, instead of ‘the meaning’ behind the nickname.[/quote]
    I can’t believe that the LA Lakers would have allowed a new team to be called “Great Lakers” though. These sort of things have to be considered. I heard that the Devil Rays wanted to have a pirate theme (Buccaneers, or something like that) to go with Tampa Bay’s Jose Gaspar pirate myth, but that was shot down by the Pittsburgh Pirates.

    [quote comment=”75255″]Boy, there’s something you don’t hear often when referring to Philly, “classy.” (Come on…you know about 50 of you thought the same thing when you read it!)[/quote]

    Reminds me of a teacher I had in high school who would always refer to Flushing, NY, as “the area most appropriately called Flushing”.

    [quote comment=”75244″][quote comment=”75240″][quote comment=”75229″] BTW, what does a Laker have to do with Los Angeles???[/quote]

    Nothing. The Lakers moved to LA from Minneapolis, and took the name with them. Dodgers (“Trolley Dodgers”) makes no sense in LA, either, if you think about it. (Or Utah Jazz, etc.)[/quote]

    The worst has to be the Memphis Grizzlies…if they changed the name to blue suede shoes when they moved from vancuver even that would have been better.[/quote]

    I say No way. Grizzlies is a cool name – they had a great original logo (the new one is ok) and the name can be shortened to Griz. I think the word GRIZZLIES looks cool stitched on a jersey.

    – it doesn’t fit Memphis necessarily but are there Tigers roaming Detroit sidewalks? It’s better than the singular names Magic, Heat, Jazz, etc.

    It would be weird if they changed it now – 7 yrs after the move.

    Here’s a cool picture of Ohio University football’s tribute to a late soccer player during the spring game (mentioned yesterday, this is from The Post in Athens):

    link

    You can make out all the “26”‘s on the right side.

    [quote comment=”75260″]It would be weird if they changed it now – 7 yrs after the move.[/quote]

    Too bad Kings is already used. Memphis Kings would be quite apropos.

    [quote comment=”74900″][quote comment=”74877″]If you consider NASCAR numbers to be “real” sports numbers, Jimmie Johnson is #48 because his car is owned by Jeff Gordon who is #24.[/quote]

    Jeff Gordon does not own Jimmie Johnson’s car. Both of their cars are owned by Hendrick Motorsports. link

    But gordon picked Johnson personally to be his teammate

    [quote comment=”75257″][quote comment=”75244″][quote comment=”75240″][quote comment=”75229″] BTW, what does a Laker have to do with Los Angeles???[/quote]

    Nothing. The Lakers moved to LA from Minneapolis, and took the name with them. Dodgers (“Trolley Dodgers”) makes no sense in LA, either, if you think about it. (Or Utah Jazz, etc.)[/quote]

    The worst has to be the Memphis Grizzlies…if they changed the name to blue suede shoes when they moved from vancuver even that would have been better.[/quote]

    Actually, the link of 1974-75 were link, and had a link.[/quote]

    that’s a great find.
    I doubt Southmen was ever used again.

    The best team name out of all comes from minor hokcey: the Macon Whoopee.

    However, the NHL has lots.

    – the Ottawa Senators play in Canada’s capital, which houses the Canadian Senate.

    – the Washington Capitals play in America’s capital, not to mention they play just down from the Capitol building.

    – the Dallas Stars are a reference to the Lone Star State.

    – the Edmonton Oilers refer to the vast oilfields in northern Alberta.

    – the Atlanta Thrashers honour Georgia’s state bird, the brown thrasher.

    Hockey… it’s a community game. :o)

    [quote comment=”75160″][quote comment=”75069″][quote comment=”75064″][quote comment=”75060″][quote comment=”74983″]Here is a link to Penn State’s new womens basketball coach holding up a jersey she will never wear.

    This brings me my moderatly uni related point, why do they have to be the “Lady Lions” as opposed to the Nittany Lions like the mens team. I hate that shit.[/quote]

    I got you beat,
    My high schools mascot are the baymen (Oyster bay, harbor, fishing etc. related) and the girls teams are called “Lady baymen”[/quote]
    I like that U of Delaware? are the fighting hens or something about hens.[/quote]

    My college were the bantams… google it, I dare you. I also dare someone to have 2 more pathetic mascots than I did.[/quote]

    I go to NYU, home of the ……..(wait for it)……..

    …….

    ……….

    ………….The Fightin’ Violets.

    Now that’s pretty lame![/quote]

    My highschool mascot was the Victorians (the victorious ones). Our mascot was actually kinda cool–a knight on a horse with lance and shield–but no matter how hard I tried I could never get over the mental image of people in Victorian era dress.

    My college alma mater is the UIS (U of IL at Springfield) Prairie Stars. What’s a prairie star gonna do to you?? Stab you with it’s points? Shine in your eyes?

    [quote comment=”75179″][quote comment=”75173″]I agree; Bob Fletcher’s design for The Wrath of Khan et seq were by far the best Trek uniforms. It annoyed me to no end that whenever they showed them on TNG, they were worn without the turtleneck, which looked terrible.[/quote]

    They were a huge improvement over the pastels they used for Star Trek: TMP.

    And while people may knock it as not being uni-related, it most certainly is: It’s like a team that has a classic design, then tries to update the uniforms and totally messes it up, then dumps those re-designed unis after one season.[/quote]

    Which certainly applies to the mind-boggling decision to use the DS9 uniforms (black jumpsuits with colored shoulder and grey turtleneck) in Generations, but only on some of the cast, instead of just having everyone wear the TNG uniforms (black pants, colored tops with black shoulders, collars and inserts).

    As the story goes, new uniforms were designed for the movie but never made; these can supposedly be seen on some tie-in action figures. IMO, the TNG uniforms (Season 3 onward) were the best of the modern-era Trek duds; none of the predominantly-black jumpsuit styles (from DS9 and Voyager) were very good.

    The jacket-and-turtleneck uniforms from the TOS films II-VI were the best, hands-down.

    It is odd how Trek fans regard these the same way we sports-uni fans on this board regard the sartorial expressions of our favorite teams. Hmm…

    [quote comment=”75268″][quote comment=”75257″][quote comment=”75244″][quote comment=”75240″][quote comment=”75229″] BTW, what does a Laker have to do with Los Angeles???[/quote]

    Nothing. The Lakers moved to LA from Minneapolis, and took the name with them. Dodgers (“Trolley Dodgers”) makes no sense in LA, either, if you think about it. (Or Utah Jazz, etc.)[/quote]

    The worst has to be the Memphis Grizzlies…if they changed the name to blue suede shoes when they moved from vancuver even that would have been better.[/quote]

    Actually, the link of 1974-75 were link, and had a link.[/quote]

    that’s a great find.
    I doubt Southmen was ever used again.[/quote]

    Only in a bar fight between Neil Young and Lynyrd Skynyrd.

    [quote comment=”75258″][quote comment=”75251″]Before the Toronto Raptors were born, there was speculation that the team was gonna be called the Toronto Great Lakers, pretty cool cause the city is surrounded by the Great Lakes. But Jurassic Park was huge back in the day they were born, so they went with ‘the times’, instead of ‘the meaning’ behind the nickname.[/quote]
    I can’t believe that the LA Lakers would have allowed a new team to be called “Great Lakers” though. These sort of things have to be considered. I heard that the Devil Rays wanted to have a pirate theme (Buccaneers, or something like that) to go with Tampa Bay’s Jose Gaspar pirate myth, but that was shot down by the Pittsburgh Pirates.[/quote]

    See I like the Devil Rays name and their unique color scheme. What in Satan’s name is wrong with it? Is the word DEVIL? Come on! Are they trying too hard for good PR to distract fans from the losing records on the field. Give it up and leave Devil Rays alone.

    If anything they should change the Tampa Bay to St. Pete, no?

    [quote comment=”75259″][quote comment=”75255″]Boy, there’s something you don’t hear often when referring to Philly, “classy.” (Come on…you know about 50 of you thought the same thing when you read it!)[/quote]

    Reminds me of a teacher I had in high school who would always refer to Flushing, NY, as “the area most appropriately called Flushing”.[/quote]

    Were you in my class?

    [quote comment=”75269″]The best team name out of all comes from minor hokcey: the Macon Whoopee.

    However, the NHL has lots.

    – the Ottawa Senators play in Canada’s capital, which houses the Canadian Senate.

    – the Washington Capitals play in America’s capital, not to mention they play just down from the Capitol building.

    – the Dallas Stars are a reference to the Lone Star State.

    – the Edmonton Oilers refer to the vast oilfields in northern Alberta.

    – the Atlanta Thrashers honour Georgia’s state bird, the brown thrasher.

    Hockey… it’s a community game. :o)[/quote]

    I also dig the Phoenix Coyotes, Toronto Maple Leafs, and Columbus Blue Jackets.

    I didn’t even mind Mighty Ducks. After all they are from Anaheim.

    [quote comment=”75254″][quote comment=”75251″]Before the Toronto Raptors were born, there was speculation that the team was gonna be called the Toronto Great Lakers, pretty cool cause the city is surrounded by the Great Lakes. But Jurassic Park was huge back in the day they were born, so they went with ‘the times’, instead of ‘the meaning’ behind the nickname.[/quote]

    Which reminds me of something my mom said during the 76ers-Raptors playoff series about 6 years ago: “Raptors? Who names their team that? 76ers is classy, as it has to do with Philly. What does a Raptor have to do with Toronto?”[/quote]

    Right…and what does WIZARDS have to do with Washington! When they lamely asserted they were changing the name from the Bullets (Baltimore) because it had a negative tone (we all know it was about marketing), they had a contest. There were so many good names you can associate with DC: Whips, Senators, Democrats, Revolution etc. but they picked that lame-o name.

    My school George Mason (Patriots) used to have a cool mascot at the basketball games. A big headed guy in a 1776 era suit with a patriot hat on. Now they have this atrocity

    link

    WTF! At least his name is Gunston…which was the name of George Mason’s plantation.

    [quote comment=”75275″][quote comment=”75269″]The best team name out of all comes from minor hokcey: the Macon Whoopee.

    However, the NHL has lots.

    – the Ottawa Senators play in Canada’s capital, which houses the Canadian Senate.

    – the Washington Capitals play in America’s capital, not to mention they play just down from the Capitol building.

    – the Dallas Stars are a reference to the Lone Star State.

    – the Edmonton Oilers refer to the vast oilfields in northern Alberta.

    – the Atlanta Thrashers honour Georgia’s state bird, the brown thrasher.

    Hockey… it’s a community game. :o)[/quote]

    I also dig the Phoenix Coyotes, Toronto Maple Leafs, and Columbus Blue Jackets.

    I didn’t even mind Mighty Ducks. After all they are from Anaheim.[/quote]

    I like the Maple Leafs and the Capitols…but I thought the Dallas team was the relocated Minnesota North Stars. They just dropped the “north” part. I’m not a huge hockey fan so maybe someone can clear me up on this.

    [quote comment=”75275″][quote comment=”75269″]The best team name out of all comes from minor hokcey: the Macon Whoopee.

    However, the NHL has lots.

    – the Ottawa Senators play in Canada’s capital, which houses the Canadian Senate.

    – the Washington Capitals play in America’s capital, not to mention they play just down from the Capitol building.

    – the Dallas Stars are a reference to the Lone Star State.

    – the Edmonton Oilers refer to the vast oilfields in northern Alberta.

    – the Atlanta Thrashers honour Georgia’s state bird, the brown thrasher.

    Hockey… it’s a community game. :o)[/quote]

    I also dig the Phoenix Coyotes, Toronto Maple Leafs, and Columbus Blue Jackets.

    I didn’t even mind Mighty Ducks. After all they are from Anaheim.[/quote]
    Mighty Ducks might be the only ones worse than the Toronto Jurassic parks.

    [quote comment=”75274″]Were you in my class?[/quote]

    I don’t know; where did you go to high school?

    [quote comment=”75278″][quote comment=”75275″][quote comment=”75269″]The best team name out of all comes from minor hokcey: the Macon Whoopee.

    However, the NHL has lots.

    – the Ottawa Senators play in Canada’s capital, which houses the Canadian Senate.

    – the Washington Capitals play in America’s capital, not to mention they play just down from the Capitol building.

    – the Dallas Stars are a reference to the Lone Star State.

    – the Edmonton Oilers refer to the vast oilfields in northern Alberta.

    – the Atlanta Thrashers honour Georgia’s state bird, the brown thrasher.

    Hockey… it’s a community game. :o)[/quote]

    I also dig the Phoenix Coyotes, Toronto Maple Leafs, and Columbus Blue Jackets.

    I didn’t even mind Mighty Ducks. After all they are from Anaheim.[/quote]

    I like the Maple Leafs and the Capitols…but I thought the Dallas team was the relocated Minnesota North Stars. They just dropped the “north” part. I’m not a huge hockey fan so maybe someone can clear me up on this.[/quote]
    Wow, Minna’s gonna be MAAADDD.

    [quote comment=”75231″][quote comment=”75203″]Well out on Long Island there’s the Hofstra Pride.
    Pride?
    Apparently it alludes to the lions on the school’s crest. P-C B-S.
    We want the original nickname … of course … your Hofstra Flying Dutchmen![/quote]

    Was the decision made in order to more closely associate the nickname to the school mascot? Or was it made because of an outpouring of negative letters from the huge Dutch population in our country?[/quote]

    Around 1988 the Hofstra Pride Club was founded. All of the university’s sports teams began wearing circular patches on their uniforms bearing the school’s crest, with the words “HOFSTRA PRIDE” circumscribed. Even though the nickname was “Flying Dutchmen,” these ubiquitous patches gave a lot of people the idea that the teams were called Hofstra Pride. Rather than have to constantly keep explaining the discrepancy, the school probably figured it might as well go all the way, and officially changed the nickname to Pride a few years ago.

    Hofstra has always had the rampant lions as part of its school crest, and had lion and lioness mascots when I was there in the late ’80s-early ’90s. I don’t know if this had anything to do with the naming of the Pride Club in 1988, but that’s supposedly the basis for the nickname now.

    [quote comment=”75251″]Before the Toronto Raptors were born, there was speculation that the team was gonna be called the Toronto Great Lakers, pretty cool cause the city is surrounded by the Great Lakes. But Jurassic Park was huge back in the day they were born, so they went with ‘the times’, instead of ‘the meaning’ behind the nickname.[/quote]

    There’s no way in hell the NBA would have allowed another team to be called the Lakers, even with “Great” in front of it. I always thought it was kind of cool that the CFL had both a “Roughriders” and a “Rough Riders,” but that could never happen today with all the marketing pros in charge. Heck, MLB wouldn’t even allow Denver Bears (which way more people here wanted than “Colorado Rockies”) because it was too similar to Cubs.

    [quote comment=”75269″]The best team name out of all comes from minor hokcey: the Macon Whoopee.

    However, the NHL has lots.

    – the Ottawa Senators play in Canada’s capital, which houses the Canadian Senate.

    – the Washington Capitals play in America’s capital, not to mention they play just down from the Capitol building.

    – the Dallas Stars are a reference to the Lone Star State.

    – the Edmonton Oilers refer to the vast oilfields in northern Alberta.

    – the Atlanta Thrashers honour Georgia’s state bird, the brown thrasher.

    Hockey… it’s a community game. :o)[/quote]

    I always thought that the Stars didn’t want to change their name entirely when they moved to Dallas from Minnesota. I never really considered that the ‘Stars’ was any sort of reference to Texas as the Lone Star State or to the line “The stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap] Deep in the heart of Texas”.

    link

    Bringing that up reminded of the scene in the movie “Pee Wee’s Big Adventure” when he’s in San Antonio and sings the first part of that song and then everyone walking in the street stops, claps, and sings the rest of the verse. It’s funny if you’re from Texas….

    [quote comment=”75280″][quote comment=”75274″]Were you in my class?[/quote]

    I don’t know; where did you go to high school?[/quote]

    I thought maybe you were one of my students. I’ve taught since ’97 in a few different places, and I used to say that (or words to that effect) fairly often.

    [quote comment=”75277″]WTF! At least his name is Gunston…which was the name of George Mason’s plantation.[/quote]

    Right, because it’s not cool to have a patriot-looking mascot,; instead, let’s get a new mascot and name him after the place where George Mason’s slaves used to pick his cotton for him. Wow……

    [quote comment=”74985″]No way anyone can complain about the University of San Diego Torero’s womens beach volleyball uniforms…

    link

    Greatest uniform ever. Nuff said.

    [quote comment=”75284″][quote comment=”75269″]The best team name out of all comes from minor hokcey: the Macon Whoopee.

    However, the NHL has lots.

    – the Ottawa Senators play in Canada’s capital, which houses the Canadian Senate.

    – the Washington Capitals play in America’s capital, not to mention they play just down from the Capitol building.

    – the Dallas Stars are a reference to the Lone Star State.

    – the Edmonton Oilers refer to the vast oilfields in northern Alberta.

    – the Atlanta Thrashers honour Georgia’s state bird, the brown thrasher.

    Hockey… it’s a community game. :o)[/quote]

    I always thought that the Stars didn’t want to change their name entirely when they moved to Dallas from Minnesota. I never really considered that the ‘Stars’ was any sort of reference to Texas as the Lone Star State or to the line “The stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap] Deep in the heart of Texas”.

    link

    Bringing that up reminded of the scene in the movie “Pee Wee’s Big Adventure” when he’s in San Antonio and sings the first part of that song and then everyone walking in the street stops, claps, and sings the rest of the verse. It’s funny if you’re from Texas….[/quote]
    Personally, I think it was more of a coincidental convenience that they have been using as justification for not changing the name entirely.

    There’s always the Fighting Profs of Rowan University, a Division III school in So. New Jersey.

    [quote comment=”75278″]I like the Maple Leafs and the Capitols…but I thought the Dallas team was the relocated Minnesota North Stars. They just dropped the “north” part. I’m not a huge hockey fan so maybe someone can clear me up on this.[/quote]

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought the Stars were going to be called the Lone Stars with the move to Dallas.

    [quote comment=”75283″][quote comment=”75251″]Before the Toronto Raptors were born, there was speculation that the team was gonna be called the Toronto Great Lakers, pretty cool cause the city is surrounded by the Great Lakes. But Jurassic Park was huge back in the day they were born, so they went with ‘the times’, instead of ‘the meaning’ behind the nickname.[/quote]

    There’s no way in hell the NBA would have allowed another team to be called the Lakers, even with “Great” in front of it. I always thought it was kind of cool that the CFL had both a “Roughriders” and a “Rough Riders,” but that could never happen today with all the marketing pros in charge. Heck, MLB wouldn’t even allow Denver Bears (which way more people here wanted than “Colorado Rockies”) because it was too similar to Cubs.[/quote]

    Ever since the Raptors changed unis – I have forgotten all about the connection to Jurassic Park. Can’t recall even having a single thought about that movie this entire decade until today. To basketball fans the dinosaur in the logo doesn’t register as anything more than an NBA team from Toronto called the Raptors.

    [quote comment=”75278″]
    I like the Maple Leafs and the Capitols…but I thought the Dallas team was the relocated Minnesota North Stars. They just dropped the “north” part. I’m not a huge hockey fan so maybe someone can clear me up on this.[/quote]

    Sorry, Minna, but here goes.

    In the summer of 1990, Norman Green, Howard Baldwin, and Morris Belzberg bought the North Stars from the Gund brothers. By October 1990, Morris had bought out his two partners. The Stars went to the Finals in 1991 with a losing regular-season record, and things looked ok for the somewhat-shaky club. Green’s mercurial personality and mounting financial and legal problems also began to grate on the area’s fan base. Local support for the franchise rapidly dwindled. Norman Green had removed the “North” portion of the name before the 1992-93 season. He also redesigned the jerseys and made them far less green and yellow than before, instead going with white and black as the home and road jersey colours with dark green trim and “gold” stars. It was to designate a “new era” of Minnesota Stars hockey. Finally, with his northern mall empire threatening to fall into receivership and a sexual harassment lawsuit against him working its way through the Minnesota court system, Green demanded concessions for his team that the area and state were unwilling to give. In 1993, the Minnesota franchise left Minneapolis. The team, now referred to as just the Stars moved south to become the very first Texas based NHL team, calling Dallas home.

    Some say that it was always Green’s intention to move the Minnesota franchise to Texas where Dallas was willing to pay whatever it took to bring an NHL franchise to the state of Texas. Removing the word “North” from the name, but leaving the “Stars” looked a little suspicious. In 1995, the Stars were sold to Texas billionaire Tom Hicks in what would be Green’s last transaction as the owner of the team.

    What gets me about the Raptors is that raptor = bird of prey. Their mascot is a dinosaur, the VELOCIraptor. So they should be the ‘Raptors, with the leading apostrophe.

    This may be old news, but it finally came to my attention. What is up with the large brim caps worn by the Yankee pitcher last night and the Oakland pitcher? I much prefer the Andy Pettitte look, if hiding/intimidation is the goal.

    [quote comment=”75260″][quote comment=”75244″][quote comment=”75240″][quote comment=”75229″] BTW, what does a Laker have to do with Los Angeles???[/quote]

    Nothing. The Lakers moved to LA from Minneapolis, and took the name with them. Dodgers (“Trolley Dodgers”) makes no sense in LA, either, if you think about it. (Or Utah Jazz, etc.)[/quote]

    The worst has to be the Memphis Grizzlies…if they changed the name to blue suede shoes when they moved from vancuver even that would have been better.[/quote]

    I say No way. Grizzlies is a cool name – they had a great original logo (the new one is ok) and the name can be shortened to Griz. I think the word GRIZZLIES looks cool stitched on a jersey.

    – it doesn’t fit Memphis necessarily but are there Tigers roaming Detroit sidewalks? It’s better than the singular names Magic, Heat, Jazz, etc.

    It would be weird if they changed it now – 7 yrs after the move.[/quote]

    It bothers me becuase Grizzlies was specifically picked for Vancuver. It’s not like the Tigers were originally from India and then randomly kept “Tigers” when they moved to detroit.
    It probably doesn’t matter though cause the Grizz won’t last too much longer in Memphis anyway. If they had picked a more apropiate name, they probably wouldn’t have sucked so much and people might have actually gone to the games.

    [quote comment=”75306″]This may be old news, but it finally came to my attention. What is up with the large brim caps worn by the Yankee pitcher last night and the Oakland pitcher? I much prefer the Andy Pettitte look, if hiding/intimidation is the goal.[/quote]

    link maybe he just has a small head…

    [quote comment=”74966″][quote comment=”74950″][quote comment=”74936″]As a die-hard Brewers fan, I knew the Crew would win when the Cubs had Cherry and Pie in at the same time. As for the Star Trek stuff….uh…I got nothing.[/quote]

    And because they were wearing the sharpest alts in the majors. link

    pit staaaaaain[/quote]
    Its called a cool base jersey!!!! Not sure why they are wearing them in April at Wrigley though…

    [quote comment=”75197″]If you had to pick one clever professional sports nickname, who would it be-from the NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL.[/quote]
    I know.. I am very biased, but I have to say Wisconsin teams have the best nicknames/mascots in all the leagues. I really like a team that that connects with its city or state (like Wisconsin)

    Green Bay Packers – Named Packers for Green Bays Packaging company right on the bank of the Fox river.

    Milwaukee Bucks – Named Bucks for the over abundance of deer in Wisconsin and the great hunting of Whitetails.

    Milwaukee Brewers – Named obviously for Milwaukee’s Miller Brewing Company (which in my opinion makes one hell of a great beer)

    Boy I hate getting here late in the day….lol

    I always remember Vida Blue as #14, why did he change his number to 35?

    [quote comment=”75289″][quote comment=”75277″]WTF! At least his name is Gunston…which was the name of George Mason’s plantation.[/quote]

    Right, because it’s not cool to have a patriot-looking mascot,; instead, let’s get a new mascot and name him after the place where George Mason’s slaves used to pick his cotton for him. Wow……[/quote]

    HA! Good point Mr. Met. He was the second largest slave owner in Fairfax county (He inherited them) next to George Washington. He was a paradox though, because he was opposed to slavery when it came to law…it was against the law in VA to free slaves.

    I just think the new mascot looks like a green grover from Sesame Street or a bazaro phillie phanatic.

    link

    The Brewers aren’t named after Miller despite their current stadium and logo. There were many breweries in Milwaukee at the turn of the century–the Milwaukee Brewers debuted in 1901 and last all of one season. When they reappeared in the sixites, the biggest beer in the city of Miller, Pabst, and Blatz was actually Schlitz (the beer that made Milwaukee famous).

    Indeed, Wisconsin does have the best nicknames–both Packers and Brewers are named after labor reflecting their fan base and sensibility.

    [quote comment=”75296″][quote comment=”75278″]I like the Maple Leafs and the Capitols…but I thought the Dallas team was the relocated Minnesota North Stars. They just dropped the “north” part. I’m not a huge hockey fan so maybe someone can clear me up on this.[/quote]

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought the Stars were going to be called the Lone Stars with the move to Dallas.[/quote]

    No, there was never an intent on the part of ownership to change the name to “Lone Stars” though there was popular public sentiment at the time to do so. The original plan was to call them the “Stars” for the first season and then to rename them entirely. That kind of drifted away when Norm Green decided to sell them and the name never changed.

    On the green, tunic Captain Kirk wore…that was his informal top. Most episodes where he was in his cabin he was in that top, though it occasionally made appearances that seemed to have nothing to do with casual wear. Uniform consistency probably wasn’t paramount on the ST set in the late 60s…

    I wear (and when I say wear, I mean choose when creating myself in videogames) #58, because two of my favorite Red Wings are Nicklas Lidstrom (5) and Igor Larionov (8). Patr Klima wore 85, so I picked 58 instead.

    I just found out that Dustin Moselely wears 58 for the LAAOFAINC, so he is now my new favorite non-Tiger.

    Anyway, I’d like to know who you have for #58.

    [quote comment=”75227″][quote comment=”75114″]
    I have 3 pathetic mascots
    High School…we were the Ingots.
    College…Boilermaker. I guess it could have been worse (read Hoosier).
    Grad school…the Seawolves.[/quote]

    Jill…who says the Boilermakers are pathetic? :P Certainly not me.[/quote]

    So what’s the logo on the helmet…a shot of whiskey and a beer? ;-)

    [quote comment=”75302″][quote comment=”75278″]
    I like the Maple Leafs and the Capitols…but I thought the Dallas team was the relocated Minnesota North Stars. They just dropped the “north” part. I’m not a huge hockey fan so maybe someone can clear me up on this.[/quote]

    Sorry, Minna, but here goes.

    In the summer of 1990, Norman Green, Howard Baldwin, and Morris Belzberg bought the North Stars from the Gund brothers. By October 1990, Morris had bought out his two partners. The Stars went to the Finals in 1991 with a losing regular-season record, and things looked ok for the somewhat-shaky club. Green’s mercurial personality and mounting financial and legal problems also began to grate on the area’s fan base. Local support for the franchise rapidly dwindled. Norman Green had removed the “North” portion of the name before the 1992-93 season. He also redesigned the jerseys and made them far less green and yellow than before, instead going with white and black as the home and road jersey colours with dark green trim and “gold” stars. It was to designate a “new era” of Minnesota Stars hockey. Finally, with his northern mall empire threatening to fall into receivership and a sexual harassment lawsuit against him working its way through the Minnesota court system, Green demanded concessions for his team that the area and state were unwilling to give. In 1993, the Minnesota franchise left Minneapolis. The team, now referred to as just the Stars moved south to become the very first Texas based NHL team, calling Dallas home.

    Some say that it was always Green’s intention to move the Minnesota franchise to Texas where Dallas was willing to pay whatever it took to bring an NHL franchise to the state of Texas. Removing the word “North” from the name, but leaving the “Stars” looked a little suspicious. In 1995, the Stars were sold to Texas billionaire Tom Hicks in what would be Green’s last transaction as the owner of the team.[/quote]

    You forgot the part about how the North Stars organization split in two to spawn the San Jose Sharks owned by the Gund brothers. They basically gutted the Minn. North Stars system, leaving a fairly empty organization that needed rebuilding…..further driving fans away.

    [quote comment=”75257″][quote comment=”75244″][quote comment=”75240″][quote comment=”75229″] BTW, what does a Laker have to do with Los Angeles???[/quote]

    Nothing. The Lakers moved to LA from Minneapolis, and took the name with them. Dodgers (“Trolley Dodgers”) makes no sense in LA, either, if you think about it. (Or Utah Jazz, etc.)[/quote]

    The worst has to be the Memphis Grizzlies…if they changed the name to blue suede shoes when they moved from vancuver even that would have been better.[/quote]

    Actually, the link of 1974-75 were link, and had a link.[/quote]

    Memphis seems to be a magnet for “recycled” nicknames. The Southmen were originally the Toronto Northmen, but were link when the Canadian government legislated them away to protect the Canadian Football League.

    [quote comment=”75269″]
    – the Dallas Stars are a reference to the Lone Star State.
    [/quote]

    If that’s the case, shouldn’t they just be the Dallas Star?

    The origin of the New York Rangers nickname is pretty clever. The President of Madison Square Garden at the time of the team’s creation (1926-27) was G.L. ‘Tex’ Rickard. Sportswriters began calling the team “Tex’s Rangers,” and the name stuck.

    [quote comment=”75359″]
    You forgot the part about how the North Stars organization split in two to spawn the San Jose Sharks owned by the Gund brothers. They basically gutted the Minn. North Stars system, leaving a fairly empty organization that needed rebuilding…..further driving fans away.[/quote]

    That wasn’t the first questionable deal involving the North Stars. In the late 70’s, the Gunds, who already owned the Cleveland Barons, bought the North Stars and merged them with the Barons because both teams were bleeding red ink. As I recall, the two teams barely had enough decent players to form one mediocre team.

    [quote comment=”75361″][quote comment=”75269″]
    – the Dallas Stars are a reference to the Lone Star State.
    [/quote]

    If that’s the case, shouldn’t they just be the Dallas Star?[/quote]

    The same way that the Washington Capitals should just be the Washington Capital? C’mon… give me a break. ;o)

    [quote comment=”75368″][quote comment=”75359″]
    You forgot the part about how the North Stars organization split in two to spawn the San Jose Sharks owned by the Gund brothers. They basically gutted the Minn. North Stars system, leaving a fairly empty organization that needed rebuilding…..further driving fans away.[/quote]

    That wasn’t the first questionable deal involving the North Stars. In the late 70’s, the Gunds, who already owned the Cleveland Barons, bought the North Stars and merged them with the Barons because both teams were bleeding red ink. As I recall, the two teams barely had enough decent players to form one mediocre team.[/quote]

    I was going to leave out the issues that the franchise had before Green, the villain, moved the team. You can only kick a city when its down so many times.

    [quote comment=”74951″][quote comment=”74944″]I have to go on a little bit of a rant here, after watching my alma mater last night, and I wanted to share the ugliness of their style with you guys.

    link

    link

    Marc, is that my alma mater Rutgers that your guys are playing against?

    RU has always had nice-looking red and black, and they often wear vests. I can’t remember the last time I saw an ugly Rutgers baseball uniform.[/quote]

    Totally agree – lots of Rutgers on this site… Im class of ’91.

    Photos link show their classic uni look, with vests.

    The black caps in those photos are a great improvement over the old cap from 5/6 years ago with the interlocking RU… I have a hat, but can’t find the pic

    [quote comment=”75197″]If you had to pick one clever professional sports nickname, who would it be-from the NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL.[/quote]

    Do the link count??

    [quote comment=”75150″]I had a Quaker as a highschool mascot, simply a person dressed as the Quaker oats man with a huge head, and a Camel in college. So fierce.[/quote]

    connecticut college?

    [quote comment=”75223″][quote comment=”75197″]If you had to pick one clever professional sports nickname, who would it be-from the NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL.[/quote]

    I’m not from there and wasn’t a fan, but I always thought the Minnesota North Stars had the coolest name (and logo) around. Although as long as we’re talking NHL, the St. Louis Blues works well too.[/quote]

    Yes, I would agree with Perry about the North Stars. Sigh.

    Oh, and the mascot for St. Olaf is the Ole. Yes, it’s a lion, but still! The St. Olaf Oles. I guess the women could be called the Lenas.

    By the way, certain links won’t post for me, either, like ones from ESPN.

    personally my favorite college non-threatening mascot is the Heidelberg Student Princes in Tiffin, OH.

    in Norwalk, OH their high school is the Truckers. there is history behind this, but how intimidating is that?

    The worst has to be the Memphis Grizzlies…if they changed the name to blue suede shoes when they moved from vancuver even that would have been better.

    I say No way. Grizzlies is a cool name – they had a great original logo (the new one is ok) and the name can be shortened to Griz. I think the word GRIZZLIES looks cool stitched on a jersey.

    – it doesn’t fit Memphis necessarily but are there Tigers roaming Detroit sidewalks? It’s better than the singular names Magic, Heat, Jazz, etc.

    It would be weird if they changed it now – 7 yrs after the move.

    When the Grizzlies were first moving to Memphis and FedEx was getting the naming rights to the arena, they proposed renaming the team the Express…Which was promptly (and rightly) shot down by the league. FedEx is famous for trying to pimp their brand for free.

    Apologies if this has been brought up before, but check out the left sleeve cuff of Brian Bruney’s (NYY reliever) road jersey. It looks longer than the right sleeve, with a broad navy stripe above the standard sleeve-cuff striping.

    [quote comment=”75361″][quote comment=”75269″]
    – the Dallas Stars are a reference to the Lone Star State.
    [/quote]

    If that’s the case, shouldn’t they just be the Dallas Star?[/quote]

    Their colors are Green and Gold because they used to be the Oakland Seals. The Oakland Seals used to be owned by Charlie Finley, who owned the A’s. He changed their colors to match the A’s.

    Does anyone else have Fox College Sports network and see those AWFUL white helmets Georgia Tech is wearing tonight? They are playing Georgia @ Turner Field tonight.

    I’ll try to get a pic for tomorrows thread…

    [quote comment=”75412″][quote comment=”75361″][quote comment=”75269″]
    – the Dallas Stars are a reference to the Lone Star State.
    [/quote]

    If that’s the case, shouldn’t they just be the Dallas Star?[/quote]

    Their colors are Green and Gold because they used to be the Oakland Seals. The Oakland Seals used to be owned by Charlie Finley, who owned the A’s. He changed their colors to match the A’s.[/quote]

    That’s not true at all….the Seals beame the Cleveland Barons…who folded after two seasons.

    [quote comment=”75410″]Apologies if this has been brought up before, but check out the left sleeve cuff of Brian Bruney’s (NYY reliever) road jersey. It looks longer than the right sleeve, with a broad navy stripe above the standard sleeve-cuff striping.[/quote]

    Are you sure you’re not looking at the memorial stripe for Cory Lidle??

    [quote comment=”75419″][quote comment=”75412″][quote comment=”75361″][quote comment=”75269″]
    – the Dallas Stars are a reference to the Lone Star State.
    [/quote]

    If that’s the case, shouldn’t they just be the Dallas Star?[/quote]

    Their colors are Green and Gold because they used to be the Oakland Seals. The Oakland Seals used to be owned by Charlie Finley, who owned the A’s. He changed their colors to match the A’s.[/quote]

    That’s not true at all….the Seals beame the Cleveland Barons…who folded after two seasons.[/quote]

    And the Barons wore red and black.

    My name is Ryan, I work for the grounds crew for the Rochester Red Wings(AAA Baseball affiliate with the Twins, Rochester New York). In early April i would like to point out that the entire Ottawa Lynx team wears high red socks during road games, and i know how uni-watch as well as myself support the cause. Whats everyones opinion on flat brimmed caps? Also, did you catch the Red Wings take on the Twins “TC” logo? (Rochester is the Flower and Flour City) WE changed the T to an F. It Looks Sharp! Maybe you could do a story on how Minor league teams adapt their affiliates logos?
    All that is just some food for thought.

    [quote comment=”75197″]If you had to pick one clever professional sports nickname, who would it be-from the NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL.[/quote]

    I go with the New Jersey Devils, named after the state’s mythical monster that roams the Pine Barrens in South Joisey. I remeber when I was a kid and the Colorado Rockies moved to New Jersey, there was a contest in the Jersey papers where you could vote for the new team name. Devils won in a landslide, but I remember some of the other choices were just awful. Like, the Meadowlanders, or the Meadowlarks (state bird), or the Nets, ’cause the NBA Nets had already moved to NJ and both sports use nets… Be thankful the Devils won out, people.

    Hey Paul, in response to one of my questions, you answered the other day that the Mets were the only MLB team that had a different batting helmet (that blue-fading-into-black Cool-Flo model paired with the black/blue caps), but watching todays Mets – Rockies game, the Rockies also use a batting helmet that dosn’t match their cap. Their cap is black with a purple brim; their helmet (also a Cool Flo model) is purple-fading-into-black, with a purple and gold logo……

    Ha-ha-ha-ha! I just saw the T-Mobile commercial with Dwyane Wade and Charles Barkley. Sir Charles is showing highlights from his glory days and invites Wade to agree that his play is indeed impressive. Instead, Wade says what is really impressive is how Sir Charles squeezed into those “little shorts … sexy!”

    That’s priceless.

    [quote comment=”75457″][quote comment=”75197″]If you had to pick one clever professional sports nickname, who would it be-from the NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL.[/quote]

    I go with the New Jersey Devils, named after the state’s mythical monster that roams the Pine Barrens in South Joisey. I remeber when I was a kid and the Colorado Rockies moved to New Jersey, there was a contest in the Jersey papers where you could vote for the new team name. Devils won in a landslide, but I remember some of the other choices were just awful. Like, the Meadowlanders, or the Meadowlarks (state bird), or the Nets, ’cause the NBA Nets had already moved to NJ and both sports use nets… Be thankful the Devils won out, people.[/quote]

    Actually, the NJ state bird is the Eastern Goldfinch. I remember learning that in 4th grade.

    another thing about the Raptors-Great Lakes thing, how would they fit `great laker` on the uni

    [quote comment=”75015″]#35

    When Rickey Henderson started his illustrious career, his first number was 35. He was awesome with the number 35. I wanted to wear 35, because two of my favorite A’s wore it, Henderson and Vida Blue.

    When Henderson was traded to the yankees, he took the number 24, because Willie Mays was his hero. I always thought it was lame, because Henderson was Henderson and 35 was his number. When Rickey returned to the A’s, he kept the number 24. Which brings me to this …

    When the A’s retire his number, do they retire 35 or 24?[/quote]

    24, probably.

    Also, check out the stirrups and the (kinda) high cuffs! And the yellow sanitaries! And the white shoes! God I love those uniforms.

    [quote comment=”75492″][quote comment=”75015″]#35

    When Rickey Henderson started his illustrious career, his first number was 35. He was awesome with the number 35. I wanted to wear 35, because two of my favorite A’s wore it, Henderson and Vida Blue.

    When Henderson was traded to the yankees, he took the number 24, because Willie Mays was his hero. I always thought it was lame, because Henderson was Henderson and 35 was his number. When Rickey returned to the A’s, he kept the number 24. Which brings me to this …

    When the A’s retire his number, do they retire 35 or 24?[/quote]

    24, probably.

    Also, check out the stirrups and the (kinda) high cuffs! And the yellow sanitaries! And the white shoes! God I love those uniforms.[/quote]

    link

    In complete and utter seriousness, we need an analysis of the Star Trek uniforms on this site spanning all series and TV shows. Knowing this site and Paul’s writing, it would be utterly brilliant.

    [quote comment=”75491″]another thing about the Raptors-Great Lakes thing, how would they fit `great laker` on the uni[/quote]

    The same way the Timberwolves fit that on their jersey….technology

    Ok. I just got back from a club and read through allllllll the comments I had skipped earlier when posting.

    You guys are KILLING me!!!!! Extensive talk about the North Stars and the Minneapolis Lakers?????? What a way to harsh my high. Wrath of Khan? It has NOTHING on the wrath of a Minnesotan fan scorned. I am going to have to post this again tomorrow to truly convey my angst.

    I spotted a North Star shirt at the club tonight, which was bad enough. Now I gotta read this???? I also spotted a Yankees cap and was about to whap the guy–but at least it was a classic cap.

    On the beer front: I asked for a Belgian beer. I got a Blue Moon. It was ok for the first three sips, then it started to taste like aspirin. I only have one drink a night, so my quest to find a beer will take a while–unless I give it up totally.

    Harumph. I’m going to bed. Mad.

    [quote comment=”76660″]i really hope you never ever ever ever ever report on star trek uniform information again, you almost ruined this entire site[/quote]

    Haaaaa…naw, as a one-shot I don’t mind it. And since it came up, who the hell approved those uniforms for the first movie? They looked like a bunch of dorks walking around in their jammies…say, you think a lot of Major Leaguers watched that film as kids?

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