# Sleeves of Shame

Special World Series Uni Watch column on ESPN today, addressing two issues that have been discussed at great length around here lately. Here’s the link.

Meanwhile: Back when I was a kid, it wasn’t unusual to see baseball cards that showed players going the unsightly (and, let’s face it, wussy) route of wearing windbreakers under their jerseys. Look through this great book and you’ll see lots of examples of this unfortunate phenomenon, all of which look like total crap, what with the wrinkles and the puffiness. Many of these shots appear to have been taken on cold February days during spring training, but others were taken in MLB stadia, which makes the windbreaker thing pretty inexcusable. Some players were even repeat offenders.

I’ve seen first and third base coaches wear windbreakers under their jerseys on cold days, but I’d never seen a player do it in a game — much less an important, high-profile game — until last night, when Jim Edmonds wore this under his jersey, resulting in some very unseemly sleeve striping (additional views here and here). All of which presents an interesting conundrum: Which is worse — the windbreaker or the accursed Nike-pox sleeves Edmonds wore in Game 1?

### 153 comments to Sleeves of Shame

• Steven | October 23, 2006 at 9:29 am |

whats up with the column today

• Paul Lukas | October 23, 2006 at 9:32 am |

[quote comment=”15834″]whats up with the column today[/quote]

If you mean the blog, there were some technical difficulties that forced me to take it down and re-post it (which unfortunately meant that two or three comments were lost — my apologies to the people who wrote those comments).

If you mean that ESPN column, wait and see.

• Adam in Chicago | October 23, 2006 at 9:39 am |

I think you can see my building behind Cherulyot in that film – brick, far right hand side.

• John | October 23, 2006 at 9:42 am |

Just to add to the Chad Johnson comment – he has actually worn three different mask styles because he has worn two different helmet styles – both picutures in the column show him wearing a Schutt helmet – one with a standard two-bar and one with the extra protection version. Johnson has also worn a Riddell Revolution helmet in some games with the original version of the 2-bar mask as worn by Peyton Manning, U of L’s Jeff Brohm and others as shown here:

• John | October 23, 2006 at 9:45 am |

Sorry, let’s try that link again:

• Beefalo | October 23, 2006 at 9:45 am |

Anyone else notice that T.J. Houshmandzadeh was wearing white shoes in the 1st part of yesterday’s game but switched over to black shoes later? Been trying to find photos, but so far, no luck…

• Banker Bill | October 23, 2006 at 9:47 am |

Clemson looked awful this weekend. I wouldn’t know anything about any of the World Series unis – haven’t watched an inning of it.

Interesting that Saturday night, the Toronto Maple Leafs decided to wear white at home instead of the dark jerseys. I wonder why…..

• John | October 23, 2006 at 9:53 am |

Okay, so I’m an idot when it comes to the link button. One last try; otherwise you can find photos on the Bengals site for weeks 1 and 3:

http://assets.bengals.com/assets/default/gallery060910-4.jpg

• Mike W. | October 23, 2006 at 9:53 am |

• Matt | October 23, 2006 at 9:59 am |

did you guys see Dick Jauron wearing the old school bills hat yesterday? I thought it was weird because the team wasn’t wearing the old school uni’s. Is this allowed?

• Ted H. | October 23, 2006 at 9:59 am |

No question the windbreaker is worse than the Nike undershirt. At least the undershirt isn’t a piece of outerwear.

I wonder why players don’t layer-up properly, instead of putting jackets on underneath their jerseys. Seems like a basic principle of dressing oneself…

• Jim Bauerle | October 23, 2006 at 9:59 am |

FSU wasn’t the only team to wear all black this weekend. Purdue always wore it at home for the first time in awhile. They had already switched to black pants on the road this year.

Sadly, like FSU, the all black failed us in a defeat.

• ken | October 23, 2006 at 10:04 am |

so what is the verdict on Placido Polanco’s headgear ? I keep waiting to see the WS logo on it.

• Elwood | October 23, 2006 at 10:05 am |

Speaking of windbreakers and such, what do you guys think of managers and coaches who use such items and abandon a jersey altogether? On the one hand, yes, it’s kinda a silly for a manager to even have a jersey and a number in the first place, but on the other hand it somehow feels wrong to me for a manager to just wear a team color undershirt and a jacket/sweatshirt no matter how hot or cold it is.

• Eric | October 23, 2006 at 10:06 am |

Those rugby uniforms are practice jerseys for the Kangaroos, Australia’s national rugby league team (different from rugby union, a more popular game in outside of Australia and some parts of England). Their game uniforms (and those of the Kiwis, New Zealand’s national team) can be seen here.

• Joe Hilseberg | October 23, 2006 at 10:07 am |

As is the new tradition at Maryland, the football team sported the all red combo for homecoming this weekend.

• a arauz | October 23, 2006 at 10:21 am |

[quote comment=”15845″]did you guys see Dick Jauron wearing the old school bills hat yesterday? I thought it was weird because the team wasn’t wearing the old school uni’s. Is this allowed?[/quote]
I’m sure the NFL is ok with the old-skool Bills hat as i’m sure they’re selling those too. Anything that’ll make’em more ‘bills’ goes, i’m certain of it. (Of course, we can also imagine that the Bills organization will be bringing back those togs next season and this is just a ‘precursor’) Nah, it’s probably just about the cash!

• Max Dugan | October 23, 2006 at 10:25 am |

HereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s one of the posts that was lost when Paul brought down the site.

Regarding Houshmandzadeh wearing white cleats, then changing to black, from the Cincinnati morning rag:

The Bengals wore orange jerseys with white pants Sunday, and wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh paired white cleats with orange-and-black accents with the ensemble.
But after losing his footing on a couple pass routes in the first half, Houshmandzadeh changed cleats at halftime.
“I run good routes and for me to slip like I did is unusual,” he said. “I’m superstitious, so I switched the cleats. The only answer could be the cleats, not my feet.”
Houshmandzadeh wore black cleats with orange accents and caught six passes for 57 yards during the second half, including the 1-yard touchdown reception – his fourth in four games – that gave the Bengals the lead with 8:07 remaining in the game.

• a arauz | October 23, 2006 at 10:25 am |

[quote comment=”15847″]FSU wasn’t the only team to wear all black this weekend. Purdue always wore it at home for the first time in awhile. They had already switched to black pants on the road this year.

Sadly, like FSU, the all black failed us in a defeat.[/quote]
Don’t fret Jim, look at it this way: in the future the FSU grads will be working for the Purdue grads. :)

• AD | October 23, 2006 at 10:25 am |

since black seems to be the most disliked uni color here besides of course purple, is there a black uniform out there that gets a thumbs up from the uniwatchblog?

• Bob | October 23, 2006 at 10:26 am |

North Dakota State
Paul, no mention of the “Bison” on the back of the helmet…..don’t remember seeing a logo like that before

• frankenslade | October 23, 2006 at 10:31 am |

This wussy windbreaker issue reminds me of a pet peeve I had to endure through 2 managers in Philadelphia: the manager wearing a pullowver windbreaker with the sleeves pushed up. Jim Fregosi is the first manager I remember sporting this look consistently, and Terry Francona would follow. They constantly wore the windbreaker with the sleeves pushed up. Larry BOwa would also fall prey to this bad look:

http://media.theinsiders.com/Media/Image/15/157617.jpg

With Fregosi, especially, it seemed like some attempt at a quack 1950s-style weight-loss program, like he hoped to sweat away pounds while sitting in the dugout. Francona, since moving to the Red Sox, has acquired a slightly less wussy and at least more stylish short-sleeve version:

http://mirrorimageorigin.collegepublisher.com/media/paper410/stills/l9rz8nv1.jpg

• john | October 23, 2006 at 10:38 am |

Polka-dotted shirts MUCH worse that the windbreakers. AT least one could blame the weather. How about the whole ski mask thing? Overall, though, two of the best uniform presentations in all of MLB.

• Paul Lukas | October 23, 2006 at 10:39 am |

[quote comment=”15858″]since black seems to be the most disliked uni color here besides of course purple, is there a black uniform out there that gets a thumbs up from the uniwatchblog?[/quote]

I have no problem with black when it’s a longstanding part of a team’s color scheme. The Raiders, Spurs, SF Giants — these teams can stake a historical claim to black. But when a team just adopts black as a marketing ploy (Mets, Flyers, FSU), they know where they can stick it.

• todd krevanchi (krvanch) | October 23, 2006 at 10:42 am |

i thought for sure that someone would have had this on one of the weekend open threads, but during the pitt/rutgers game on saturday night, rutgers kicker jeremy ito had a jersey on in which the “R” in rutgers was reversed to mirror image. i have yet to find a picture.

• Chris | October 23, 2006 at 10:42 am |

Maybe this picture will put to rest all the talk about Todd Jones having one sleeve that’s shorter than the other. The right sleeve is just bunched up around the collar.

• Chris | October 23, 2006 at 10:47 am |
• Lou | October 23, 2006 at 10:50 am |

[quote comment=”15851″]Speaking of windbreakers and such, what do you guys think of managers and coaches who use such items and abandon a jersey altogether? On the one hand, yes, it’s kinda a silly for a manager to even have a jersey and a number in the first place, but on the other hand it somehow feels wrong to me for a manager to just wear a team color undershirt and a jacket/sweatshirt no matter how hot or cold it is.[/quote]

I find this trend to be utterly irritating. If the rule is that all personnel wear uniforms, then WEAR THE UNIFORMS! Why wear the pants even? Perhaps a nice pair of khakis would be more comfortable!

• Chris | October 23, 2006 at 10:51 am |

Also looks as though Pudge is tying his shoelaces through his pants.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/0e/full.getty- 72218924mh024_world_series__10_30_41_pm.jpg

• Chris | October 23, 2006 at 10:53 am |
• Ryan B. | October 23, 2006 at 10:56 am |

[quote comment=”15847″]FSU wasn’t the only team to wear all black this weekend. Purdue always wore it at home for the first time in awhile. They had already switched to black pants on the road this year.

Sadly, like FSU, the all black failed us in a defeat.[/quote]

By my record, the Boilers are a sad 1-3 with the black pants this season and 4-0 when wearing the gold pants. As a Mets fan, I now have TWO “Ditch the Black” campagins. Get rid of the black on the Mets’ uniforms and get rid of the black football pants for Purdue! :)

• Natron | October 23, 2006 at 11:01 am |

I noticed something strange while watching my Gophers barely slip past Division 1-AA North Dakota State. It’s possible that this is a common occurance in 1-AA (or even !-A, and I just never noticed it). If this is a regular thing, I’m sure somebody will let me know!

The NDSU players wore Nike, but the coaches wore Under Armour.

What’s going on there?

• Joe W. | October 23, 2006 at 11:05 am |

Anyone else notice the MLB logo on the new style hats this World Series have a raised white outline (Tigers) on the MLB logo on the back as opposed to a flat embroidery style on the old ones? Don’t have a photo but it was pretty obvious watching HD.

• Gene F. | October 23, 2006 at 11:05 am |

The mention of rugby kits reminded me of a dreadful oversight in this blog – there is, as far as I can see, no mention of the garish kits worn by Australian Football League teams. This link shows the present jumpers, or tops, worn by each team, and a click on the jumper brings you to the history of the team’s home and away jumpers.

Go Lions!

• Jonathon | October 23, 2006 at 11:06 am |

anyone notice the crap-tastic “bass boat” paint scheme on the univeristy of cincinnati’s football helmets last night? black helmet, but with red glitter mixed in. it looked like a really expensive bowling ball.

check out the photo gallery from this link:
http://gobearcats.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/102306aaa.html#

they also sported black on black, but at least they won, unlike dur-pue and free-shoes-u

• Timmer | October 23, 2006 at 11:13 am |

What are the chances that Kenny Roger’s tendancy to wear the dark underbill spring training cap have something to do with the substance on his hand last night?

• Kenny | October 23, 2006 at 11:13 am |

I noticed that North Dakota State is one of the latest victims of Nike’s uniform design. The pictures show the home jersey has stayed the same for the past three seasons, but their away jerseys have changed each year

Away 2005

Away 2006

Pretty interesting that they changed each year and it differs from the home design too

• Gene F. | October 23, 2006 at 11:14 am |

http://bomberblitz.com/~rmered/clubs.htm

• C.N. | October 23, 2006 at 11:23 am |

The Nike dot-matrix sleeves are far and away worse than the windbreaker, in my opinion.

Also, Paul, kudos for getting the plural form of “stadium” right. I thought I would never see that again.

• Kenny | October 23, 2006 at 11:23 am |

[quote comment=”15880″]I noticed that North Dakota State is one of the latest victims of Nike’s uniform design. The pictures show the home jersey has stayed the same for the past three seasons, but their away jerseys have changed each year

Pretty interesting that they changed each year and it differs from the home design too[/quote]

Let’s try again

Home

Away 2004

Away 2005

Away 2006

• Kyle | October 23, 2006 at 11:26 am |

[quote comment=”15840″]
Interesting that Saturday night, the Toronto Maple Leafs decided to wear white at home instead of the dark jerseys. I wonder why…..[/quote]

The Maple Leafs were wearing their alternate jersey. The Leafs and the Habs are the only teams that have white alternates, meaning that despite the dark at home uniform switch, teams still have to pack both sets of unis when passing through those cities on road trips.

• C.N. | October 23, 2006 at 11:29 am |

[quote comment=”15878″]anyone notice the crap-tastic “bass boat” paint scheme on the univeristy of cincinnati’s football helmets last night? black helmet, but with red glitter mixed in. it looked like a really expensive bowling ball.

check out the photo gallery from this link:
http://gobearcats.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/102306aaa.html#

they also sported black on black, but at least they won, unlike dur-pue and free-shoes-u[/quote]

This helmet scheme is actually a fairly common occurrence and I’m surprised no one here seems to have ever noticed it, as evidenced by this and particularly the comments after West Virginia’s win last Thurs. evening.

• Buckeye Mike | October 23, 2006 at 11:29 am |

I think the windbreakers to dot sleaves depends on the team. those ones from the Cards, not so bad. I could live with them. They look better than that windbreaker. but I think they dot sleaves look really stupid on some teams (re:Pitt)

• Steve | October 23, 2006 at 11:31 am |

Well, thank God the bank logo was unharmed during that fall. It would have been a shame for people to look at the logo-emblazoned banners around the logo-emblazoned finish line to see who was sponsoring the marathon. Ugh.. Just sickening.

• Matt B | October 23, 2006 at 11:34 am |

Those Sevilla details are neat. In contrast, it looks like the (English) Premiership imposes a particular font for all teams’ names/numerals for all teams from mighty Arsenal and Chelsea down to lowly Watford.

Ek: there’s something hinky with the linking function. Successive links “eat” the previous one.

• Chris Doran | October 23, 2006 at 11:46 am |

[quote comment=”15865″][quote comment=”15858″]since black seems to be the most disliked uni color here besides of course purple, is there a black uniform out there that gets a thumbs up from the uniwatchblog?[/quote]

I have no problem with black when it’s a longstanding part of a team’s color scheme. The Raiders, Spurs, SF Giants — these teams can stake a historical claim to black. But when a team just adopts black as a marketing ploy (Mets, Flyers, FSU), they know where they can stick it.[/quote]
Mildly disagree on the Flyers… Yes they switched to an black jersey to sell some merchandise; but black has always been a part of their color scheme.

• redemske | October 23, 2006 at 11:56 am |

Two things:

The Jim Edmonds’ jacket is worse than the dots, but here’s why. A bulky jacket under a jersey — and presumably on top of something else — probably restricts movement somewhat. Maybe not a ton, but maybe just enought to not hit a 95 mph fastball. The dots are just ugly, but they won’t hurt performance.

The Nike-Under Armor thing at North Dakota State is probably pretty simple. At smaller schools ( I went to Northern Iowa), the school’s apparel and equipment contract may be different from the coach’s deal. There was a time when the UNI baseball team had Nike shirts and workout gear, but Mizuno spikes.

• Kerry | October 23, 2006 at 12:15 pm |

Paul, and everyone else, HERE’S A LINK to a I-AA message board that I frequent. The link is to a thread solely dedicated to pictures of uniforms so you can probably find some really interesting, up-to-date info there on uniforms in the I-AA football community.

FYI, there is also another thread on the board talking about your Bill Buckner story as well as this site. Hopefully we have directed several more people here that will become frequent readers (incidentally, there were already a lot of people on that board that read this site daily).

• Zach | October 23, 2006 at 12:17 pm |

Also noticed from the pictures on the front page of ESPN right now that Rogers was wearing a Coolflo jersey last night. Silly.

• Luke | October 23, 2006 at 12:24 pm |

[quote comment=”15879″]What are the chances that Kenny Roger’s tendancy to wear the dark underbill spring training cap have something to do with the substance on his hand last night?[/quote]
I thought the same thing Timmer, the underbill is black and the bill will stay curved much easier…both of which would make something easier to conceal.

• AJ | October 23, 2006 at 12:30 pm |

Don’t have any pictures, but as a big Cards fan, I noticed earlier in the season that Edmonds (and I think a few other Cards players) wore that jacket under his jersey when it was cold. I think this was at the beginning of the season, as it is still cold in St. Louis and a few other cities when the season starts. Not saying I like the look, but it is definitely not the first time Edmonds has worn it.

• Ted H. | October 23, 2006 at 12:39 pm |

[quote comment=”15898″][quote comment=”15879″]What are the chances that Kenny Roger’s tendancy to wear the dark underbill spring training cap have something to do with the substance on his hand last night?[/quote]
I thought the same thing Timmer, the underbill is black and the bill will stay curved much easier…both of which would make something easier to conceal.[/quote]

This is brilliant — but did anyone see Rodgers going to his brim during the game? I didn’t notice anything suspicious, but it’s not the sort of thing you would think of unless looking for a particular reason. Either way, his hat looked awful. I hope this isn’t what the new black-brimmed New Era hats will look like.

• Kevin | October 23, 2006 at 12:42 pm |

[quote comment=”15870″]Also looks as though Pudge is tying his shoelaces through his pants.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/0e/full.getty- 72218924mh024_world_series__10_30_41_pm.jpg[/quote]

Why doesn’t someone tell him how ridiculous that looks.

• BJ | October 23, 2006 at 12:45 pm |

$[quote comment=”15874″]I noticed something strange while watching my Gophers barely slip past Division 1-AA North Dakota State. It’s possible that this is a common occurance in 1-AA (or even !-A, and I just never noticed it). If this is a regular thing, I’m sure somebody will let me know! The NDSU players wore Nike, but the coaches wore Under Armour. W\hat’s going on there?[/quote] I’m sure Nike decided NDSU wasn’t a big enough merch market to warrant sponsoring the whole Athletic Department. Unfortunately, this leaves smaller teams to come up with their own sponsors. For example, NDSU’s baseball team wears Mizuno. Their men’s basketball team wears Wilson Athletic. But it’s not just a small-school thing. At Florida, our revenue sports wear the Swoosh. But for some reason that has never been reasonably explained to me (though I suspect it has something to do with Coach Becky Burleigh), the soccer team wears Adidas Unis. At Auburn, whose football team just jumped from Nike to Under Armour over a spat about spats, the basketball team wears a combo of Nike shoes and Russell Athletics Unis. • Paul Lukas | October 23, 2006 at 12:45 pm | Special World Series installment of Uni Watch is now up on ESPN — look here. • Kevin | October 23, 2006 at 12:45 pm | [quote comment=”15903″][quote comment=”15898″][quote comment=”15879″]What are the chances that Kenny Roger’s tendancy to wear the dark underbill spring training cap have something to do with the substance on his hand last night?[/quote] I thought the same thing Timmer, the underbill is black and the bill will stay curved much easier…both of which would make something easier to conceal.[/quote] This is brilliant — but did anyone see Rodgers going to his brim during the game? I didn’t notice anything suspicious, but it’s not the sort of thing you would think of unless looking for a particular reason. Either way, his hat looked awful. I hope this isn’t what the new black-brimmed New Era hats will look like.[/quote] I didn’t see that part of the game, but did the umps even inspect his hand? It is pretty clear just by the ESPN.com photos that it is not dirt – dirt isn’t shiny like that. I thought the MLB rules were clear that a foreign substance meant you were thrown out of the game, with no leeway. • Kevin | October 23, 2006 at 12:49 pm | [quote comment=”15906″]Special World Series installment of Uni Watch is now up on ESPN — look here.[/quote] Nice work Paul and fellow Uni Watchers. I could see this actually leading to some sort of punishment against Rogers, although this is MLB, so probably not. • WVU Tom | October 23, 2006 at 12:50 pm | Well, I was away for the weekend — and I come back today shocked to see my beloved Mountaineers got the Saturday open thread pic, as well as some hearty discussion. WVU has made some sad changes to the uni the last few seasons (thanks in part to everyones favorite sports apparel manufacturer), but as long as their winning, I’m going to try and not complain too much… Just to clarify some discussion points from Saturday: WVU has not made changes to the helmet, the “metallic sheen” that someone mentioned was due to the rain/drizzle at UCONN friday night. I don’t know if anyone noticed, but some players weren’t wearing mismatched sleeves, but rather only one sleeve. I’m not sure which is worse. Slaton • julie | October 23, 2006 at 12:52 pm | looks like a smiley face on the wvu sleeve to me. :) • Stew | October 23, 2006 at 12:56 pm | I have noticed that Chad Johnson not only has two different facemasks but three all with different helmets too. He has worn the two shown in the column today but also the new riddell helmet as well. I have been wondering why for weeks. There seems to be no real reason for this. • Andrew F | October 23, 2006 at 12:58 pm | I’m at a I-AA school myself (Hofstra). Each team is responsible for getting their own unis, cleats, gear, whatever. The school does not have a contract with any one company to provide uniforms for the team, nor are they “sponsored” by any company. Football wears Nike, softball wears Speedline unis and Adidas cleats along with TPS gear, and basketball wears (or at least used to wear) Anaconda Sports unis and Reebok shoes. So until a big name comes through and decides to drop some cash on a mid major school, teams will be responsible for purchasing their unis and equipment from wherever they can get the best deal. And in many cases, while it may have a company logo on it, the school still has to pay for them. So the coaches wearing UA may just come from them buying the stuff from a catalog and getting it embroidered, like the rest of us humans do. • Chad | October 23, 2006 at 1:07 pm | [quote comment=”15911″]Well, I was away for the weekend — and I come back today shocked to see my beloved Mountaineers got the Saturday open thread pic, as well as some hearty discussion. WVU has made some sad changes to the uni the last few seasons (thanks in part to everyones favorite sports apparel manufacturer), but as long as their winning, I’m going to try and not complain too much… Just to clarify some discussion points from Saturday: WVU has not made changes to the helmet, the “metallic sheen” that someone mentioned was due to the rain/drizzle at UCONN friday night. I don’t know if anyone noticed, but some players weren’t wearing mismatched sleeves, but rather only one sleeve. I’m not sure which is worse. Slaton[/quote] I’m assuming slaton wore only one sleeve because his right arm is the one he primarily carries the ball in, and ball to skin probably provides better grip than ball to spandex…which leads to the question, why wear the other sleeve at all, did it really keep him that much warmer? • Miguel | October 23, 2006 at 1:09 pm | Long-ass blog entry and a long-ass Page 2 article, both chock-full of links. Kudos – you have outdone yourself, Mr. Lukas! • Paul Lukas | October 23, 2006 at 1:13 pm | [quote comment=”15919″]Long-ass blog entry and a long-ass Page 2 article, both chock-full of links. Kudos – you have outdone yourself, Mr. Lukas![/quote] Thanks, man. And now I’ll be taking the next few days off….. Kidding. • ACC | October 23, 2006 at 1:13 pm | [quote comment=”15891″][quote comment=”15865″][quote comment=”15858″]since black seems to be the most disliked uni color here besides of course purple, is there a black uniform out there that gets a thumbs up from the uniwatchblog?[/quote] I have no problem with black when it’s a longstanding part of a team’s color scheme. The Raiders, Spurs, SF Giants — these teams can stake a historical claim to black. But when a team just adopts black as a marketing ploy (Mets, Flyers, FSU), they know where they can stick it.[/quote] Mildly disagree on the Flyers… Yes they switched to an black jersey to sell some merchandise; but black has always been a part of their color scheme.[/quote] Isn’t Marketing always considered for uni changes? I have no problem with black being added as a secondary/complimentary color. Exceptions are Oakland A’s and Detroit Lions. • eli | October 23, 2006 at 1:16 pm | As a Clemson fan and uni fan in general I knew that the Tigers purple would not be too popular but for my money it looked Great on sat. night. Where are the skins maroon pants the white on white is nice but not every time. • Jeff | October 23, 2006 at 1:23 pm | Paul and Friends, you may want to cover your eyes. Mismatched sleeves, shoulder piping, horizontal front stripes, solid blue back. I present recent EPL entrant, Reading FC • Kenny | October 23, 2006 at 1:25 pm | [quote comment=”15913″]I have noticed that Chad Johnson not only has two different facemasks but three all with different helmets too. He has worn the two shown in the column today but also the new riddell helmet as well. I have been wondering why for weeks. There seems to be no real reason for this.[/quote] Maybe it was cuz he was knocked silly earlier this year • Buckeye Mike | October 23, 2006 at 1:27 pm | Ok, so I was watching The game last night, and I noticed that Kenny Rogers has a different hat from the rest of the team. It appears to be a BP hat. HAHAHA sorry, it hadn’t been said yet, and it seems like we were getting 2 per day after each time he pitched. sorry, had too • Jeff | October 23, 2006 at 1:29 pm | [quote comment=”15916″]I’m at a I-AA school myself (Hofstra). Each team is responsible for getting their own unis, cleats, gear, whatever. The school does not have a contract with any one company to provide uniforms for the team, nor are they “sponsored” by any company. Football wears Nike, softball wears Speedline unis and Adidas cleats along with TPS gear, and basketball wears (or at least used to wear) Anaconda Sports unis and Reebok shoes. So until a big name comes through and decides to drop some cash on a mid major school, teams will be responsible for purchasing their unis and equipment from wherever they can get the best deal. And in many cases, while it may have a company logo on it, the school still has to pay for them. So the coaches wearing UA may just come from them buying the stuff from a catalog and getting it embroidered, like the rest of us humans do.[/quote] I believe they dropped Nike this year for football. Their new uni template is USC-ish but there is no discerning logo creep. Plus, they finally updated the wordmark on their jersey to reflect the school’s new font. • RWitteman | October 23, 2006 at 1:31 pm | Re: Kenny Rogers “loading” by going to his cap. Didn’t see the game last nite, but didn’t need to to know that the Gambler was touching his hat regularly. As any fan of a team for which Kenny has pitched can attest, he touches his hat repeatedly between every pitch. When he was with the Twins, a friend and I put the over/under at 4.5 touches per pitch. His routine alternates “tugging” on the brim and “pushing” the back of the cap down on his head. A slightly less annoying variation of the the Nomar glove tug-fest between pitches. It’s entirely possible that he’s loading either from the bill (his thumbprint would be the most likely surface affected) OR from the back. Given that the BP hats are more of a “jersey-type” perforated material, he might be loading the meaty part of the hand below the thumb from the side of his hat. The offending substance could be spread on the inside of the hat/brim and the more porous nature of the hat should allow easy passage to the part of the hand that appeared to be “stained” in the pictures from last night (and in earlier outings). Note: given Fox’s prediliction for “massive close ups” of various individuals between pitches, the camerawork may have missed Rogers’ movements. But unless he’s modified a long standing habit very recently, he was doing it – whether or not it meant anything. • MetsFan AZ | October 23, 2006 at 1:33 pm | [quote comment=”15926″]Ok, so I was watching The game last night, and I noticed that Kenny Rogers has a different hat from the rest of the team. It appears to be a BP hat. HAHAHA sorry, it hadn’t been said yet, and it seems like we were getting 2 per day after each time he pitched. sorry, had too[/quote] I like reading the threads on the weekends. This gets brought up twice a day at least. Please let Kenny Rogers not pitch again. There was also someone asking “Who makes the baseball sleeves with the dots?” Kind of a “weekend uniwatcher” vibe. • Vegas4BOC | October 23, 2006 at 1:33 pm | Anyone know why the Dallas Stars wore their whites at home vs. chicago Blackhawks this past friday night? http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/hockey/img9742334.jpg • Kenny | October 23, 2006 at 1:33 pm | [quote comment=”15925″][quote comment=”15913″]I have noticed that Chad Johnson not only has two different facemasks but three all with different helmets too. He has worn the two shown in the column today but also the new riddell helmet as well. I have been wondering why for weeks. There seems to be no real reason for this.[/quote] Maybe it was cuz he was knocked silly earlier this year[/quote] The Golden Boy getting smashed Interview after game • Kenny | October 23, 2006 at 1:36 pm | [quote comment=”15932″][quote comment=”15925″][quote comment=”15913″]I have noticed that Chad Johnson not only has two different facemasks but three all with different helmets too. He has worn the two shown in the column today but also the new riddell helmet as well. I have been wondering why for weeks. There seems to be no real reason for this.[/quote] Maybe it was cuz he was knocked silly earlier this year[/quote] The Golden Boy getting smashed Interview after game[/quote] just realized they are both on the first page • Chris Hilf | October 23, 2006 at 1:51 pm | You know, that Tigers thing is really interesting. I work for Duquesne University, and the Tigers sued us because our D is too close to theirs. I bet our lawyers didn’t realize they have bene screwing with TWO DIFFERENT D’s when we were defending ourselves…. • Chris | October 23, 2006 at 1:51 pm | Ok, in looking for more pictures to back up the fact that Todd Jones DOES NOT get his right sleeve tailored shorter, I came across this picture. What’s written on his left hand? The photo is from Game 4 of the LDS vs. the Yankees. http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/f6/full.getty-72048827cc044_alds_game_4_n_7_49_05_pm.jpg • J W Buchanan | October 23, 2006 at 1:53 pm | Regarding repeat-windbreaker-offenders, I seem to recall that one year Tom Seaver appeared on his card in just the windbreaker and a Mets cap. No jersey. • Nolan | October 23, 2006 at 1:55 pm | Mentioned in the ESPN article. I have never noticed the Cardinals logo was stitched directly onto the jersey. Not knowing a thing about embroidery, is this just too cost prohibitive for other teams? Or are they just lazy? • Minna H | October 23, 2006 at 2:04 pm | Paul, Paul, Paul. When will you learn? Rod Carew can wear whatever he wants, whenever he wants, however he wants! He is Rod Carew! Besides, he doesn’t look nearly as bad an the other examples. FSU all-black = ugly. Purdue all-black = classy. Decisive ruling: All-black only works with a true black, not with whatever the crap color that was that FSU was wearing. I don’t know why baseball managers have to wear the uni. Looks funny. I prefer Francona’s look. Overall, I like the monochromatic look except in cases like Clemson. That’s too much, even for me. Sorry for the random, scatter-shot approach. Still sick, so the brain is still muddled. • Mitch | October 23, 2006 at 2:14 pm | I was reading a Yahoo! column today and noticed this at the bottom (quite intersting, and gross…): Tigers second baseman Placido Polanco said he coats himself in grease to insulate against the cold. He’s not the only one, getting the idea from teammate Ivan Rodriguez. “I tried it the last game against Oakland and it worked,” Polanco said. Who the hell thought to do that, and has anyone ever heard of this technique before? We shouldn’t be worring about Kenny Rogers doctoring the ball, but check it anytime that Poloanco gets a ground ball! • barney | October 23, 2006 at 2:18 pm | Very happy to open today’s blog and see my all-time fave – Rod Carew. Despite the windbreaker on the card (doesn’t matter in spring training), he should be a member of the Uni-Hall-of-Fame. In his autobiography, he describes in detail the respect the has for the uniform, what it represents, and how fortunate he was to be able to wear one. He used to keep a brush in the dugout to sweep dirt off his uniform between innings if he had to slide into a base or dive for a ball! • Brett | October 23, 2006 at 2:20 pm | Why won’t any reporters come out and say it? Kenny Rogers was cheating! Interview any pitcher from college… to the minors… to the pros. I pitched for 15 years… a pitcher knows how long their finger nails are… they know how strong their calouses are on their release fingers… they know how sweaty their palms are… they know everything about their pitching hand/arm. A 41 year old pro would probably be even more aware of this stuff! He said he didn’t notice it… every pitcher out there knows he lied with that statement. And lies are only used when someone feels the need to hide something!! Rogers should have been out of the game in the first inning. Congrats to FOX! I bet someone in their camera crew saw it when he pitched last time and they were ready to catch him at the start of this outing! If he is allowed to pitch in Game 6 (which I don’t think he should) they need to do a search of him between every inning!! • JJD | October 23, 2006 at 2:21 pm | I thought this was interesting because I can’t recall seeing a Ferrari driver in anything other than red, but Felipe Massa was wearing a special green-and-yellow drivers suit for the Grand Prix of Brazil. Massa’s normal get-up Massa’s Brazil scheme • Elwood | October 23, 2006 at 2:31 pm | [quote comment=”15940″]Mentioned in the ESPN article. I have never noticed the Cardinals logo was stitched directly onto the jersey. Not knowing a thing about embroidery, is this just too cost prohibitive for other teams? Or are they just lazy?[/quote] It’s expensive and complicated. The only other teams I know that have it are the Phillies and the Blackhawks. • Jonathon | October 23, 2006 at 2:32 pm | [quote comment=”15905″]$[quote comment=”15874″]I noticed something strange while watching my Gophers barely slip past Division 1-AA North Dakota State. It’s possible that this is a common occurance in 1-AA (or even !-A, and I just never noticed it). If this is a regular thing, I’m sure somebody will let me know!

The NDSU players wore Nike, but the coaches wore Under Armour.

W\hat’s going on there?[/quote]

I’m sure Nike decided NDSU wasn’t a big enough merch market to warrant sponsoring the whole Athletic Department. Unfortunately, this leaves smaller teams to come up with their own sponsors. For example, NDSU’s baseball team wears Mizuno. Their men’s basketball team wears Wilson Athletic. But it’s not just a small-school thing.

At Florida, our revenue sports wear the Swoosh. But for some reason that has never been reasonably explained to me (though I suspect it has something to do with Coach Becky Burleigh), the soccer team wears Adidas Unis.

At Auburn, whose football team just jumped from Nike to Under Armour over a spat about spats, the basketball team wears a combo of Nike shoes and Russell Athletics Unis.[/quote]

auburn is going to under armour for almost ALL of its sports, startin this year. the mens and womens hoops teams will both wear under armour. the only exception, so far, appears to be volleyball, which still wears mizuno (a big player in the volleyball world)

auburn will probably still wear nike shoes for basketball, however. i don’t think under armour has developed a hoops sneaker, yet.

• todd krevanchi (krvanch) | October 23, 2006 at 2:33 pm |

[quote comment=”15938″]Ok, in looking for more pictures to back up the fact that Todd Jones DOES NOT get his right sleeve tailored shorter, I came across this picture. What’s written on his left hand? The photo is from Game 4 of the LDS vs. the Yankees.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/f6/full.getty-72048827cc044_alds_game_4_n_7_49_05_pm.jpg%5B/quote%5D

the first thing i thought of was the temporary tatts that tv poker players get between their thumb and index fingers so its visible on the “pocket cam”.

• Riley | October 23, 2006 at 2:39 pm |

Did Kenny Rogers cheat? I sure as hell don’t know. Maybe he did , maybe he didn’t. I for one have always kind of enjoyed the cat and mouse game of pitchers and pine tar. Yes, I am nostalgic for “old-school” forms of cheating. Sad, but true. In any case the touching the cap thing probably has nothing to do with it. I fool around with my ball cap all the time when I’m nervous or anxious watching a game. I can only imagine how much fiddling I’d be doing if I actually had to pitch one.

• Mr. Met | October 23, 2006 at 2:52 pm |

Windbreakers: OVER the jersey. Revolution shirts: UNDER the jersey. So from the standpoint of, which is worse as it pertains to Jim Edmonds’ use, I would have to go with the windbreaker.

I actually like the Revolution undershirts (have a Mets’ one myself), but I do agree that some are ridiculous. In particular, the Pirates, Cubs and Rangers versions are garish.

I’m surprised that the Mets haven’t released a version with blue sleevs and black dots…… :P

• Jonathon | October 23, 2006 at 2:57 pm |

also, auburn football did not jump from nike to under armour. auburn wore russell for a very long time. auburn originally wore nike shoes, but switched to new balance shoes in 2005. this year, auburn wears under armour jerseys and under armour shoes.

2004 (russell jersey, nike shoes)
http://auburntigers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/083105aac.html?pic=1

2005 (russell jersey, new balance shoes)
http://auburntigers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100705aaa.html?pic=22

2006 spring game (old russell jersey, under armour shoes)
http://auburntigers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/032006aaa.html?pic=4

2006 fall practice (u.a. jersey, u.a. shoes)
http://auburntigers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080306aaa.html?pic=2

• Andy F. | October 23, 2006 at 3:12 pm |

It seems as though some of the Tigers and Cards were wearing new undershirts last night. I didn’t notice them being worn in game 1 though. You can kind of see it here . It has a gray insert starting on the inside elbow area and going up towards the shoulder. Better view here. The Cardinals version had blue inserts, but I can’t find a photo of it. It could be Nike debuting next years line like they did with the dot matrix sleeves in last years World series. Anybody else notice?

• Lou | October 23, 2006 at 3:31 pm |

How about the possibility that what was on Kenny Rogers hand was merely the ink that he uses to color the white panel black? He does pull on his hat enough, and if the ink were even a little wet, some of it would come off onto his hand. Look at how he tugs on the hat. It is entirely possible that that is all it was.

• nastykjn | October 23, 2006 at 3:32 pm |

[quote comment=”15944″]I was reading a Yahoo! column today and noticed this at the bottom (quite intersting, and grossÃ¢â‚¬Â¦):

Tigers second baseman Placido Polanco said he coats himself in grease to insulate against the cold. HeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s not the only one, getting the idea from teammate Ivan Rodriguez. Ã¢â‚¬Å“I tried it the last game against Oakland and it worked,Ã¢â‚¬Â Polanco said.

Who the hell thought to do that, and has anyone ever heard of this technique before? We shouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t be worring about Kenny Rogers doctoring the ball, but check it anytime that Poloanco gets a ground ball![/quote]

That’s actually an old lineman trick in football. Linemen don’t like sleeves. Not only does it insulate your skin against the cold but for D-lineman it makes it hard for O-linemen to grab you.

As far as Kenny Rogers and FOX I think it was somewhat irresponsible of Joe Buck to bring it to Tony LaRussa’s attention during the game. Yeah, I know that LaRussa already knew about it but what if he didn’t? It like the Brent Musberger incident when he let everyone in on USC using the “shaka” symbol to denote coverages except Musberger didn’t call down to the opposing coach to ask him if he had picked up on it.

• Mark in Shiga | October 23, 2006 at 3:39 pm |

[quote comment=”15950″][quote comment=”15940″]Mentioned in the ESPN article. I have never noticed the Cardinals logo was stitched directly onto the jersey.

Not knowing a thing about embroidery, is this just too cost prohibitive for other teams? Or are they just lazy?[/quote]

It’s expensive and complicated. The only other teams I know that have it are the Phillies and the Blackhawks.[/quote]

Several of the amateur teams I’ve played for in Japan have that stitching for the entire uniform, including the numbers on the back! For two-toned numbers, the main body of the number is like this, with the border embroidered all the way around it. It’s extremely well-done and I’ll try and get some photos of it.

In fact, have any MLB teams ever worn jerseys made by Descente? Not only do they do a great job with the chain-stitching, but the jersey material is quality — their pinstripes shirts have a complicated mesh system where there are no holes on the stripes.

• Kenny | October 23, 2006 at 3:41 pm |

[quote comment=”15964″]How about the possibility that what was on Kenny Rogers hand was merely the ink that he uses to color the white panel black? He does pull on his hat enough, and if the ink were even a little wet, some of it would come off onto his hand. Look at how he tugs on the hat. It is entirely possible that that is all it was.[/quote]

Except the mark on his hand was brown and the ink he uses is black…maybe they ran out of toilet paper in the clubhouse? I still think he cheated though

• Kevin Dugal | October 23, 2006 at 3:46 pm |

Hey Paul, how about some props for hooking you up with the Kenny Rogers Hat info? you used the same pictures I sent you! Im sure it had been noticed before, but I just think its funny that a week after I send you a detailed e-mail about his BP caps, the story shows up on ESPN. I think that deserves some shine!

• todd krevanchi (krvanch) | October 23, 2006 at 3:48 pm |

anyone able to find a screen cap or pic of rutgers kicker jeremy ito yet? did anyone else notice it?

• Miguel | October 23, 2006 at 3:49 pm |

[quote comment=”15964″]How about the possibility that what was on Kenny Rogers hand was merely the ink that he uses to color the white panel black? He does pull on his hat enough, and if the ink were even a little wet, some of it would come off onto his hand. Look at how he tugs on the hat. It is entirely possible that that is all it was.[/quote]

Rogers is a consistent victim of misunderstandings. I think that his hands were also wet here and here, and the cameraman blew it out of proportion.

• Paul Lukas | October 23, 2006 at 3:54 pm |

[quote comment=”15970″]Hey Paul, how about some props for hooking you up with the Kenny Rogers Hat info? you used the same pictures I sent you! Im sure it had been noticed before, but I just think its funny that a week after I send you a detailed e-mail about his BP caps, the story shows up on ESPN. I think that deserves some shine![/quote]

No offense, Kevin, but you were roughly the 897th Uni Watch reader this year to raise the issue of Rogers’s cap……

• a arauz | October 23, 2006 at 3:55 pm |

[quote comment=”15948″]I thought this was interesting because I can’t recall seeing a Ferrari driver in anything other than red, but Felipe Massa was wearing a special green-and-yellow drivers suit for the Grand Prix of Brazil.

Massa’s normal get-up

Massa’s Brazil scheme[/quote]
JDD– isn’t Massa a Brasiliero ? That would explain he desire to wear it, but I’m puzzled that Ferrari would allow it.

• a arauz | October 23, 2006 at 4:00 pm |

[quote comment=”15971″]anyone able to find a screen cap or pic of rutgers kicker jeremy ito yet? did anyone else notice it?[/quote]
I noticed it in Hamilton’ Tavern whilst waiting for my 2 pitchers of Yingling Beer. I know that ‘s not what you’re looking for –but I wanted to corroborate your sighting.

[if only to maintain your credibility] :)

• todd krevanchi (krvanch) | October 23, 2006 at 4:14 pm |

so me and another reader of the blog who i’ll call c’s, are at the bar last night for the usual “sunday bender”, taking in a day of nfl and world series tv activity. one of our friends walks in, for the sake of the story we’ll call him bobby follano.

so, follano starts getting very vocal and says, “you know who has the f’ing best looking uniforms in the country? f’ing oregon baby!”

c’s looks over at me, then back to follano.

follano continues on his love of oregons uni’s but then steps over the line with this next beauty.
“dude, when i hit f’ing powerball and i can buy a f’ing nfl team, im gonna f’ing call up oregon and ask them who they got to do their uniforms cuz they are f’ing awesome! my team is gonna look like f’ing oregon.”

c’s is like shaking his head now, knowing that the same thing he is thinking, is going on in my head too.

so c’s starts to explain the whole oregon “deal” with the pants, and shirts, helmets, etc. the combinations, the whole 9.

bobby follano is not getting it at all. so c’s quits while he is ahead and stops his explanation of oregon and their uni’s.

then c’s looks at me and without saying a word, my reply is simply, “yes. this conversation will be posted tomorrow.”

• Chris | October 23, 2006 at 4:15 pm |

Great article on Page 2. One thing though about the Cardinals holding the bat. I don’t know if it was implied, but it appears to be that the reason why the tails of the birds fall to one side of the bat or the other is because they are facing each other. in other words, if you look at this one you’ll see that the bird on the left is showing its back claw while the bird on the left has what looks like its front claws showing.

additionally, the presence of the birds facing each other gives the appearance of depth, couple that with the right side of the bat being higher than the left. course, that doesn’t explain why the cards just flipped the birds (sorry, there was a pun just waiting to be made and I congratulate Paul for not making it in his column).

at least that’s how it looks to me.

• todd krevanchi (krvanch) | October 23, 2006 at 4:18 pm |

[quote comment=”15975″][quote comment=”15971″]anyone able to find a screen cap or pic of rutgers kicker jeremy ito yet? did anyone else notice it?[/quote]
I noticed it in Hamilton’ Tavern whilst waiting for my 2 pitchers of Yingling Beer. I know that ‘s not what you’re looking for –but I wanted to corroborate your sighting.

[if only to maintain your credibility] :)[/quote]

awesome! someone else saw it! where are you at that you can get yuengling?

• Matt | October 23, 2006 at 4:21 pm |

Hey Paul,
How come you covered the Tigers substantially more than the Cardinals in your column?

• Chad | October 23, 2006 at 4:28 pm |

[quote comment=”15980″]Hey Paul,
How come you covered the Tigers substantially more than the Cardinals in your column?[/quote]

does it matter, it was his column. Also the lead was the rogers hand thingy so it made sense to talk about the detroit logos. What did you want him to do, pretend the cardinals use 2 different St.L’s?

I know this comment is on the jerky side, and I apoligize if it offends, but c’mon people

• Natron | October 23, 2006 at 4:38 pm |

[quote comment=”15970″]Hey Paul, how about some props for hooking you up with the Kenny Rogers Hat info? you used the same pictures I sent you! Im sure it had been noticed before, but I just think its funny that a week after I send you a detailed e-mail about his BP caps, the story shows up on ESPN. I think that deserves some shine![/quote]

Yikes… careful you don”t separate your shoulder patting yourself on the back.

This has been going on in the Uni Watch world as early as June 5th (check the ticker).

The only new twist is now that Kenny has been caught with a “clump of dirt” on his hand, the speculation about why he wears a BP cap has heated up.

• Richard | October 23, 2006 at 4:45 pm |
• DAVID | October 23, 2006 at 4:54 pm |

you guys need to pay attention..
keyshawn does not have that string tied..i am a former equipment amanger..it was probably tied from the top and the string did not get put back into the jeresy!!!!!!!!!

• Andrew F | October 23, 2006 at 5:12 pm |

So here’s something i found, and Paul, I think it’s totally Tuesday blog worthy…

Many AHL teams have sponsors, and wear a patch on their jerseys, as can be seen here and here, as part of the agreement. The Milwaukee Admirals (who we spoke of a lot over the summer for their uniforms) apparantly have the Milwaukee Brewers as a sponsor, which has led to this! They not only are wearing a Brew Crew logo, but a retro one at that! More pics here and here

• JJD | October 23, 2006 at 5:20 pm |

[quote comment=”15974″][quote comment=”15948″]I thought this was interesting because I can’t recall seeing a Ferrari driver in anything other than red, but Felipe Massa was wearing a special green-and-yellow drivers suit for the Grand Prix of Brazil.

Massa’s normal get-up

Massa’s Brazil scheme[/quote]
JDD– isn’t Massa a Brasiliero ? That would explain he desire to wear it, but I’m puzzled that Ferrari would allow it.[/quote]

He is, in fact, Brazilian, and it was for his home Grand Prix. Michael raced in Germany a bunch of times but never saw fit to have a customized suit.

• Brinke Guthrie | October 23, 2006 at 5:44 pm |

anyone know if Majestic will redo the dugout jackets for next year? usually they do a refresh every 2 yrs starting with the WS, dont they?

• Brendan | October 23, 2006 at 5:47 pm |

Since Aussie Rules Football was brought up I thought I would ask about the umpires uniforms and more specifically their hats. When I was a weenling (the 80’s)they wore fedoras but now they where baseball caps or something similar. When did this change?

• Brendan | October 23, 2006 at 5:48 pm |

arghh, that ought to be of course ‘wear’

• Curtis S | October 23, 2006 at 5:53 pm |

I know its a different sport, but one cannot bring up the windbreaker as undershirt phenomenon without mentioning former Pats QB Steve Grogan. The blue windbreaker he used to wear on occassion in the mid to late 80s always made him look like he was wearing a garbage bag under his uniform, especially in wet conditions. Any photos of this available?

• Marc Smith | October 23, 2006 at 5:59 pm |

[quote comment=”15852″]Those rugby uniforms are practice jerseys for the Kangaroos, Australia’s national rugby league team (different from rugby union, a more popular game in outside of Australia and some parts of England). Their game uniforms (and those of the Kiwis, New Zealand’s national team) can be seen here.[/quote]
These were one-off practice jerseys that were worn in support of a children’s charity.

• Micah | October 23, 2006 at 6:16 pm |

Going against the grain here, but I like the black FSU unis; I thought they where a sweet contrast. Too bad it didn’t help them in the game. I don’t know where all the black hating is coming from, but I think it’s pretty stupid to have a color bias. Maybe someone likes purple, orange, black, pink, whatever. Who cares???

The huge jacket under Edmonds is absoutely retarded. People may hate the Nike dot-matrix shirts, but it looks a hell of a lot more proper and form-fitting than some baggy warmup jacket.

• Nolan | October 23, 2006 at 6:25 pm |

This reminded me of something we can see tonight on MNF. Roy Williams, safety for Dallas wears a white long sleeve T-Shirt. It looks a little “pop warner” to me, and not today’s pop warner either. More like the days of yore.
It’s strange to see in the compression shirt era

• Jeff E. | October 23, 2006 at 7:18 pm |

[quote comment=”15989″][quote comment=”15974″][quote comment=”15948″]I thought this was interesting because I can’t recall seeing a Ferrari driver in anything other than red, but Felipe Massa was wearing a special green-and-yellow drivers suit for the Grand Prix of Brazil.

Massa’s normal get-up

Massa’s Brazil scheme[/quote]
JDD– isn’t Massa a Brasiliero ? That would explain he desire to wear it, but I’m puzzled that Ferrari would allow it.[/quote]

He is, in fact, Brazilian, and it was for his home Grand Prix. Michael raced in Germany a bunch of times but never saw fit to have a customized suit.[/quote]

If you look closely, his uniform is actually the Brazilian flag. If you look at his sleeve, you can see some of the blue from the “planet” that’s part of the flag as well as the top point of the yellow diamond.

• RIley | October 23, 2006 at 7:35 pm |

[quote comment=”15987″]So here’s something i found, and Paul, I think it’s totally Tuesday blog worthy…

Many AHL teams have sponsors, and wear a patch on their jerseys, as can be seen here and here, as part of the agreement. The Milwaukee Admirals (who we spoke of a lot over the summer for their uniforms) apparantly have the Milwaukee Brewers as a sponsor, which has led to this! They not only are wearing a Brew Crew logo, but a retro one at that! More pics here and here[/quote]

That is very, VERY cool.

• Shawn Knowles | October 23, 2006 at 7:46 pm |

1. There was nothing on his hat. If anyone noticed, whatever it was was gone after the first inning, I was at the game and saw him touch his hat 800million times. If there was anything on his hat it would show up on his hands, after he washed his hands ….. unless he switched hats too?????

2. This definately is sometihng strange, not dirt, and I don’t think it looked like pine tar either. I’m gonna start it right now and a 5 days from now when he pitches in game 6 it’s gonna have national attention….. IT WAS BLOOD!!! a la Curt’s sock.
How about that for a story. Cheating I don’t think so, it was playin through blisters or something, it was BALLS.

• Bouj | October 23, 2006 at 7:53 pm |

[quote comment=”15950″][quote comment=”15940″]Mentioned in the ESPN article. I have never noticed the Cardinals logo was stitched directly onto the jersey.

Not knowing a thing about embroidery, is this just too cost prohibitive for other teams? Or are they just lazy?[/quote]

It’s expensive and complicated. The only other teams I know that have it are the Phillies and the Blackhawks.[/quote]

Paul, you were in error about the Astros’ chainstitching in the ESPN column. It is stiched directly into the jersey. I am holding one right now (2004 game jersey). The Phillies are the only ones who stitch onto a patch first.

• barney | October 23, 2006 at 7:54 pm |

[quote comment=”15995″]I know its a different sport, but one cannot bring up the windbreaker as undershirt phenomenon without mentioning former Pats QB Steve Grogan. The blue windbreaker he used to wear on occassion in the mid to late 80s always made him look like he was wearing a garbage bag under his uniform, especially in wet conditions. Any photos of this available?[/quote]

Here’s your Grogan photo. He’s one of the few all-time Pats that I liked. He got the most out of his talent and hustle. And you gotta love the neck collar, too!

Grogan

• Curtis S | October 23, 2006 at 8:06 pm |

[quote comment=”16009″][quote comment=”15995″]I know its a different sport, but one cannot bring up the windbreaker as undershirt phenomenon without mentioning former Pats QB Steve Grogan. The blue windbreaker he used to wear on occassion in the mid to late 80s always made him look like he was wearing a garbage bag under his uniform, especially in wet conditions. Any photos of this available?[/quote]

Here’s your Grogan photo. He’s one of the few all-time Pats that I liked. He got the most out of his talent and hustle. And you gotta love the neck collar, too!

Grogan[/quote]

Barney- Thanks for the link. It brings back lots of Sunday memories for me as a kid. Grogan is still one of my favorite Pats.

• Scott | October 23, 2006 at 8:11 pm |

Does anyone know what kind of cleats these are that Marvin Harrison is wearing? I believe T.O also wears these brand cleats. Odd thing is that there is absolutely no logo at all.

• Double J | October 23, 2006 at 8:14 pm |

Just watching the MNF pregame and they were showing Terry Glenn warming up. I noticed he had an Ohio State “Buckeye” sticker on the back of his helmet. I ‘m guessing he’s wearing it in honor of being an OSU Alum. Dont have a pic but I dont think ive ever seen that before, and am surprised that it is allowed

• JB | October 23, 2006 at 8:17 pm |

Is it just me, or do the Giants helmets and jerseys not match? I know that the helmet is suppose to be metallic, but it is like they are using two different blues.

• Eric | October 23, 2006 at 8:21 pm |

Anyone else notice how the entire Saints team wears the thick white plastic buckles for their chin straps. Last year they just wore the normal metal ones as seen in this photo. Thoe thing that I find abnormal is that everyone on the team is wearing them as evident: here, and especially here. When I played, I hated these because they were so hard to buckle down with gloves on.

• Korch | October 23, 2006 at 8:23 pm |

The cleats that TO and Marvin Harrison wear are Air Jordan XIII’s, made by Brand Jordan/Nike.

• Luke | October 23, 2006 at 8:24 pm |

1. There was nothing on his hat. If anyone noticed, whatever it was was gone after the first inning, I was at the game and saw him touch his hat 800million times. If there was anything on his hat it would show up on his hands, after he washed his hands ….. unless he switched hats too?????

2. This definately is sometihng strange, not dirt, and I don’t think it looked like pine tar either. I’m gonna start it right now and a 5 days from now when he pitches in game 6 it’s gonna have national attention….. IT WAS BLOOD!!! a la Curt’s sock.
How about that for a story. Cheating I don’t think so, it was playin through blisters or something, it was BALLS.[/quote]

Dude, it looked EXACTLY like pine tar. Have you ever seen pine tar?

• Sammy | October 23, 2006 at 8:26 pm |

For the record, I vote with Paul, for the Tigers’ cap logo. The thick jersey logo looks cheaper to me.

• Joe | October 23, 2006 at 8:35 pm |

[quote comment=”16004″][quote comment=”15987″]So here’s something i found, and Paul, I think it’s totally Tuesday blog worthy…

Many AHL teams have sponsors, and wear a patch on their jerseys, as can be seen here and here, as part of the agreement. The Milwaukee Admirals (who we spoke of a lot over the summer for their uniforms) apparantly have the Milwaukee Brewers as a sponsor, which has led to this! They not only are wearing a Brew Crew logo, but a retro one at that! More pics here and here[/quote]

That is very, VERY cool.[/quote]

it has also been discussed in this very blog.

• Brandon T. | October 23, 2006 at 8:39 pm |

Paul Lukas on Safari, another Mac addict!

BT

• Shawn Knowles | October 23, 2006 at 8:40 pm |

Dude it was just a joke

• drjwtexas | October 23, 2006 at 8:46 pm |

I have a Game used Dan Campbell jersey.

Here is a closeup.

Take Care

• DP30 | October 23, 2006 at 8:48 pm |

[quote comment=”15954″]Did Kenny Rogers cheat? I sure as hell don’t know. Maybe he did , maybe he didn’t. I for one have always kind of enjoyed the cat and mouse game of pitchers and pine tar. Yes, I am nostalgic for “old-school” forms of cheating. Sad, but true. In any case the touching the cap thing probably has nothing to do with it. I fool around with my ball cap all the time when I’m nervous or anxious watching a game. I can only imagine how much fiddling I’d be doing if I actually had to pitch one.[/quote]

I pitched in college, where I had to rely on junk to get people out. And my ball moved so much naturally that other teams would assume it was a foreign substance. So I used to play up to that, pretending that I was wiping something from under my cap brim, under my arm pit or behind my knee (just above my high socks, of course), and then transferring this mythical object onto the ball, just to give them an extra pitch to worry about.

Someone else mentioned the possibility that it was the ink from turning Rogers’ BP cap into a game model. But if he fidgets with his hat so much when pitching, wouldn’t the ink stain re-appear at some point during the next 6 innings?

I’m not gonna say it’s a travesty if Rogers was doctoring the ball or anything like that, more pitchers do it than you think, but I do find it hard to believe that he didn’t originally notice anything on his hand.

• drjwtexas | October 23, 2006 at 8:50 pm |

[quote comment=”16024″]From your Cowboy jersey question.

• drjwtexas | October 23, 2006 at 8:54 pm |

One more try

• drjwtexas | October 23, 2006 at 8:56 pm |
• Brian from Short Island | October 23, 2006 at 9:23 pm |

[quote comment=”15865″][quote comment=”15858″]since black seems to be the most disliked uni color here besides of course purple, is there a black uniform out there that gets a thumbs up from the uniwatchblog?[/quote]

I have no problem with black when it’s a longstanding part of a team’s color scheme. The Raiders, Spurs, SF Giants — these teams can stake a historical claim to black. But when a team just adopts black as a marketing ploy (Mets, Flyers, FSU), they know where they can stick it.[/quote]

The P in the Flyers logo is black, black has always been a trim color, and in the cooperall season they wore black pants. I have no problem with it. (I do hate the Flyers though. Keep the hell out of my Coliseum!)

• frigg | October 23, 2006 at 10:13 pm |

YahooÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Dan Wetzel really needs to leave this stuff to the professionals. Ã¢â‚¬Â¦

What color is the sky in Wetzel’s delusional world? Clueless!

• Wayne | October 23, 2006 at 10:45 pm |

GREAT espn.com article today, Paul.

• Dusty | October 23, 2006 at 11:06 pm |

The Minnesota throwbacks were great. Lets keep the uni’s and replace the players who where them. If NDSU won they should have been automaticly moved up to Div. I and the Gophers sent down to I-AA. Too bad the Gophers have such bad momories in the throwback because I would love to see them more often.

• Dusty | October 23, 2006 at 11:10 pm |

I have to add… This blog is the reason why I do not get any work done.

Any thing else said on the 2010 High School rule one away uniiforms all being the same design.

• Brian from Short Island | October 23, 2006 at 11:51 pm |

[quote comment=”16022″]Paul Lukas on Safari, another Mac addict!

BT[/quote]
You must not use a mac, that’s Firefox. Safari uses the brushed-metal interface.

P.S., being a Long Islander, I’m right by Hofstra (like, really, really close). Who else thinks that “Pride” is a really lame nickname for a team?

I mean seriously. The Flying Dutchmen kicked ass. Speedy Claxton was a Dutchman. And Gio Carmazzi (Failed 49ers QB at last check). And Wayne Chrebet.

Worst of all, it caused them to adopt a buffaslug-like logo.

Another buffasluggy logo: Siena College Saints. The St. Bernard looks like he’s dying! Can’t hold up to the old one, which is simultaneously mean and happy.

Go Dutch!

• Philip | October 23, 2006 at 11:53 pm |

Concerning the windbreaker under the uniform situation, I just want to make a comparison to the world of architecture: If a building is at least 50 years old, the federal government considers it “historic”, and even though the building is actually 100 years old, one can consider any changes the building went through to be historic as long as it happened at least 50 years ago. “So what’s the big deal smarty?” you say – basically, if something is done a certain way and it’s been done that way for a long time – then it can be considered the way it’s done. Windbreaker under the uni has been going on for decades? Then consider it a “baseball thing” and that’s it. It may be quirky, but so is the manager wearing a uniform. It harkens back to the little league days when it was sometimes strangely cold out, but you had to play and wear your uniform – so put it over your jacket. The crime is that Jim Edmonds jacket was fugly, yet better than anything Nike could produce after 1983. This is coming from a guy who bought a Mark Chumura Packers jersey online because it still had the 5 sleeve stripes, and I’m one Wisconsinite who thinks it’s a shame to insinuate Rod Carew is a wussy for windbreaker/uniform juxtaposition… On Wisconsin!

• Eric G. | October 24, 2006 at 12:07 am |

[quote comment=”16021″][quote comment=”16004″][quote comment=”15987″]So here’s something i found, and Paul, I think it’s totally Tuesday blog worthy…

Many AHL teams have sponsors, and wear a patch on their jerseys, as can be seen here and here, as part of the agreement. The Milwaukee Admirals (who we spoke of a lot over the summer for their uniforms) apparantly have the Milwaukee Brewers as a sponsor, which has led to this! They not only are wearing a Brew Crew logo, but a retro one at that! More pics here and here[/quote]

That is very, VERY cool.[/quote]

it has also been discussed in this very blog.[/quote]

Many a month ago, if I remember correctly. I’m pretty sure Paul talked about it in an ESPN column long ago. Back me up on this one, Paul?

• Al A | October 24, 2006 at 12:17 am |

[quote comment=”15993″]Since Aussie Rules Football was brought up I thought I would ask about the umpires uniforms and more specifically their hats. When I was a weenling (the 80’s)they wore fedoras but now they where baseball caps or something similar. When did this change?[/quote]
I remember watching the odd Aussie rules footy match on the old MSG channel and being knocked out by the umpires white topcoats and what appeared to be white totes rainhats. pretty funny sight.

Todd- Yeungling is pretty common here in NJ and sure beats the crap of the typical lame-O beer, I mean, it’s not STELLA, but it’s not a bad second prize as far as i’m concerned.

• Jeff | October 24, 2006 at 12:30 am |

[quote comment=”16040″][quote comment=”16022″]Paul Lukas on Safari, another Mac addict!

BT[/quote]
You must not use a mac, that’s Firefox. Safari uses the brushed-metal interface.

P.S., being a Long Islander, I’m right by Hofstra (like, really, really close). Who else thinks that “Pride” is a really lame nickname for a team?

I mean seriously. The Flying Dutchmen kicked ass. Speedy Claxton was a Dutchman. And Gio Carmazzi (Failed 49ers QB at last check). And Wayne Chrebet.

Worst of all, it caused them to adopt a buffaslug-like logo.

Another buffasluggy logo: Siena College Saints. The St. Bernard looks like he’s dying! Can’t hold up to the old one, which is simultaneously mean and happy.

Go Dutch![/quote]
Ugh, I hate the new nickname.

It changed right when I applied to go as a student haha.

I kind of like the logo (MUCH better than previous) Glad they finally updated their unis to reflect it (see comment #70) and i think you’ll be seeing alot more of it with seeeveral televised TV games for Hofstra bball

• Paul Lukas | October 24, 2006 at 12:46 am |

[quote comment=”16043″][quote comment=”16021″][quote comment=”16004″][quote comment=”15987″]So here’s something i found, and Paul, I think it’s totally Tuesday blog worthy…

Many AHL teams have sponsors, and wear a patch on their jerseys, as can be seen here and here, as part of the agreement. The Milwaukee Admirals (who we spoke of a lot over the summer for their uniforms) apparantly have the Milwaukee Brewers as a sponsor, which has led to this! They not only are wearing a Brew Crew logo, but a retro one at that! More pics here and here[/quote]

That is very, VERY cool.[/quote]

it has also been discussed in this very blog.[/quote]

Many a month ago, if I remember correctly. I’m pretty sure Paul talked about it in an ESPN column long ago. Back me up on this one, Paul?[/quote]

Yeah, I first discussed it about a year ago, if memory serves. Don’t make me look up which column it was, though….

• Darcy Plymire | October 24, 2006 at 6:31 am |

Those “windbreakers” worn in the old days during spring training may not have been windbreakers at all. In fact, they may have been nylon and/or rubberized shirts designed to induce sweating and therefore, weight loss. In the good old days guys did not come to camp in shape and they believed, wrongly, that sweating off the pounds would accelerate the process of getting in shape.

DP

• Kenny | October 24, 2006 at 9:50 am |

[quote comment=”16009″][quote comment=”15995″]I know its a different sport, but one cannot bring up the windbreaker as undershirt phenomenon without mentioning former Pats QB Steve Grogan. The blue windbreaker he used to wear on occassion in the mid to late 80s always made him look like he was wearing a garbage bag under his uniform, especially in wet conditions. Any photos of this available?[/quote]

Here’s your Grogan photo. He’s one of the few all-time Pats that I liked. He got the most out of his talent and hustle. And you gotta love the neck collar, too!

Grogan[/quote]

• Bobby D | October 27, 2006 at 8:32 pm |

Shame on you, Paul, for pointing out one of the, if not the most, immaculately dressed players in all of MLB history, Rod Carew, on the windbreaker thing. = )

Rod always looked good, maybe it was extremely cold when the foto was taken, and many kids back in the day, inc. yours truly, tried to emulate Rod’s look on the diamond, as well as his hitting prowess.