So I was looking through the membership card gallery the other day, and I was suddenly struck by something I’d never noticed before: Most of the drop shadows and block shadows fall down and to the right — call it the five o’clock shadow.
As I started looking at photos, I realized that five o’clock shadows are standardized throughout most of the sports world. The primary exception among current teams is the New York Rangers, whose block shadows go down and to the left (a protocol that holds for all their jerseys). For everyone else, it’s down and to the right, down and to the right, ad infinitum.
I was curious about how this phenomenon became so entrenched. Was it because we read from left to right? Was it because the sun sets in the west, casting an eastward shadow? Was it a something designers consciously considered when coming up with uniform designs, or did they just reflexively go with the five o’clock format without even thinking about it?
I posed those questions to Todd Radom and Scott M.X. Turner, both of whom have designed a few uniforms in their day. Here’s an edited version of their responses:
Todd Radom: Agreed, drop shadows traditionally fall off to the bottom right, and I can only assume that this is a logical function of [our culture’s] left-to-right thing. Are there any drop shadows in the new Israeli baseball league that go from right to left? [I don’t think so. — PL]
My 2 cents: Bottom-right is the way to go. And the shadow should be connected to the top layer of lettering, as opposed to just being set off. Also, I think any drop shadow should be darker than the layer on top, so white drop shadows on a black background, for instance, make no sense at all.
The 49ers numbers achieve drop shadow perfection for my money.
Scott M.X. Turner: What Todd said, basically. The Rangers’ bottom-left look has become so iconic that it doesn’t strike me as odd (though it does feel counterintuitive when I do Rangers treatments for Uni Watch cardbacks).
I agree block shadow is a better idea than drop shadow. … I’m not as sold that the bottom layer needs to be darker, however — the St. Louis Browns stuck orange under brown back in the ’40s, and Cleveland did it in 1970 with red under navy [and let’s not forget this — PL]. I guess it depends on whether you’re trying to convey a shadow or a block. If it’s a shadow, then Todd’s right, should be darker; block, then most anything goes.
Unlike the well-documented histories of pinstripes, certain colors, and logos, I’m not sure there’s a way to know for sure why shadows came out lower-right. Just that most of us designers agree that’s the way it feels right. And nine times out of ten, the feel’s more important than the math.
Todd also pointed out what may be the oddest configuration of all: the one used by the late-1950s Washington Senators, whose block shadow ran up and to the right. I’m unaware of any other team having done this. But then again, until a week or so ago I hadn’t given much thought to this topic to begin with.
And that’s the thing — once you start thinking about a subject like this, all sorts of things start jumping out at you. With my “shadow radar” more finely tuned in recent days, I’ve suddenly noticed a few more left-leaning shadows. During my recent visit to Lelands, for example, I turned over this New Jersey Knights jersey and immediately fixated on the nameplate. And when preparing yesterday’s ESPN column about “one and done” designs, I was got a little rush of excitement when I saw the shadow configuration on Wisconsin’s one-day design from 1995.
My feeling is that while drop and block shadows often look good (especially on a membership card), they can also add unnecessary clutter to a design. And while I haven’t done a formal tally, my sense of things is that more teams are employing shadows these days than in the past, because they’re so easy to execute digitally. I’m fairly certain teams like the Mets, Dolphins, and 49ers, all of which added drop shadows within the past decade, wouldn’t have done so if it hadn’t been so easy for a designer to call everyone over to his computer and say, “Look, what if we just did this…” I’m not saying there’s no place for shadows, but most of them these days come with the distinct echo of “Because we can.”
Raffle Results: I’m happy to announce that the winner of the Helmet Hut raffle for a free college football helmet is Vertically Arched member Mike Brodsky. Mike, please get in touch with me pronto to claim your prize.
Thanks to all who entered. And I can absolutely promise, incidentally, that next month’s raffle is gonna be a mind-blower.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Creepy Nike product placement of the day — and one of the best ever — here (with mega-thanks to Chris Dominiak). … The Jets, who were originally known as the Titans, will be having a, uh, Titanic throwback game on October 14th. Lots good Titans info is available here (and be sure to check out the JetsTV video link, which features some fantastic Titans footage — special thanks to Mike from Queens for that link). … Cool-sounding exhibit of military uniforms currently on display in Delray Beach, Florida. Details here (with thanks to Jeff Fishman). … Speaking of military unis, check out this. … Yesterday Todd Radom e-mailed me an article about various lowlights in Phillies uniform history (it’s not web-accessible, alas), and one passage in particular caught my eye: “June 10, 1972. Trying to inject some life into a 19-29 club at the start of a homestand, gimmick-obsessed team vice president Bill Giles suggested that, since the Phillies had been playing better on the the road than at home, they ought to try their road uniforms at the Vet. Giles’ plan bombed. The Atlanta Braves’ 15-3 victory included Hank Aaron’s 649th home run, a grand slam.” The Braves were wearing the “feather” design on the road that year, so it wasn’t gray-vs.-gray, but still — two teams wearing road uniforms? I’d never heard about this before. Anyone else? … When not serving me cocktails, doing my laundry, and changing Tucker and Caitlin’s litterbox, Uni Watch intern Vince Grzegorek moonlights at a dental office. And who should come in for a root canal yesterday but a VP of Sales for Reebok. “He was dressed head to toe in Reebok stuff,” reports Vince. “Shorts, shoes, socks, and the logo was EXTREMELY prominent.” While he was in the chair, Vince slipped him some nitrous oxide and nabbed this Cleveland Browns cap from his briefcase. Then he put a Uni Watch temporary tattoo on his arm, etched a Nike swoosh onto one of his front teeth, and doubled his bill. All in a day’s work. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Major hosiery development Wednesday night, as Esteban Loaiza was wearing special stirrups with the A’s logo on the side. Best photo so far (provided by Roger Faso) is here — you can just barely make out the logo on Loaiza’s left ankle. Anyone got a better shot? I can’t do screen grabs from my backup computer (main machine’s still in the shop, grumble-grumble), but I’m told that there were some close-up views in the first inning. … Here’s a quote for the ages: “It was an interesting lesson to learn in how quickly a fire can happen.” To appreciate the full context, look here (with thanks to Peter Bliao). … The Trenton Thunder unveiled a new identity system yesterday. … And Cleveland State unveiled a new logo (as noted by Josh Yetmar). … Golf report from Dan Sherman, who writes: “At the first round of the FedEx cup, close to 50 golfers were wearing blue belts with silver buckles inscribed with ‘IFF,’ for ‘Ian and Friends Foundation.'” Details here. … I’d heard about the Denver Bears’ “strike zone uniforms” before, but I’d never seen them — until now (with thanks to George McClure). … Can someone please tell the Mariners to stop wearing their BP jerseys in actual games? They did it again last night. … Here’s one I hadn’t been aware of: As you know, the Steelers switched from block numbers to their current font in 1997. But for the first game of that season — and only the first game — they kept their old block lettering for the nameplates, before switching to their now-familiar rounded font in Week 2. … Tired of seeing your favorite team’s baseball cap rendered in all sorts of weird colors? You’re not the only one (good find by Dave Miller). … Latest MLBer to wear toe socks: Brendan Ryan of the Cardinals. This and several other uni-related tidbits can be found in the last four paragraphs of this article. Meanwhile, the second text section of this piece reports that Ryan has some unusual taste in eyewear. (Both items sent my way by Elena Elms, who I’m pretty sure has a crush on Ryan.) … Mike Lowell has been wearing a Jeff Bagwell-style padded batting glove lately. “It was made by using an old piece of catching equipment, an idea conceived by the Red Sox trainers,” says AJ Chalifour. … Got an e-mail last night from Jay Gordon, who’s the editor-in-chief of Uniforms magazine (!), which features lively columns like “The Uniforms Laboratory” and “Ask the Uniforms Guy” (who, for some inexplicable reason, isn’t me). Granted, none of the uniforms are sports-related, but it still looks pretty damn cool. … Jason Cruz notes that there sure seems to be a lot of stuff going on on Lauren Jackson’s shoes. Anyone know what the “153” is for?
Was at the mets game last night and steiner was running a silent auction by the team store. They also had some “game worn” stuff… mostly jackets and bp jerseys of scrubs. One that did catch my eye though was a Schowenweis spring training jersey with #36. Got a picture on my cell but it’s fairly terrible. Thought that was prety cool since he only had that number for a few days. Wasn’t willing to throw down $100 for a black mets jersey with screen printing on it.
the hat that vince found isnt new–its the sideline cap from 2005 link
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there was supposed to be a link there, but heres the site anywho link
if link turns out to be true I will be VERY VERY VERY VERY upset. VERY upset.
[quote comment=”136078″]the hat that vince found isnt new–its the sideline cap from 2005 link[/quote]
You’re link!!
I was lied to!! Oh well. Disappointed by Reebok again, not like it’s anything new.
Last night during the rainout of the White Sox game, on Comcast Sportsnet, they were showing interviews with Chicago baseball fans wearing jerseys. There was a White Sox fan who had S. Bartman on the back as a jab at his northside brethren. They also had a piece on a guy wearing a Cubs jersey with Hill on the back. And as the reported said, “when you think about Cubs baseball, you think about Glenallen Hill.” HA.
There was also a guy who ran through a whole host of replicas that he owed, from home and away 1908’s to more recent years. It was prettey intertaining. The best story was the guy who bought a Sosa jersey on ebay, and it arrived while he was out of the country in Mexico. When he got back and opened the package, there was a picture of Sosa in an Orioles jersey on the front page that day.
This may be a pretty standard piece that they run during rainouts, but it was the first time I had seen it. Anybody else in the Chicago area ever seen this piece?
Steve B
is that supposed to say a ‘titanic’ throwback game ?
When I was learning lettering by hand in the pre-computer day of graphic art, all the instruction books showed letter shadowing down and to the right. Do they do it differently in South America, I wonder?
[A crush on Brendan Ryan? Me? Adam Wainwright would be so disappointed, but he never does anything UniWatch worthy]
for the rangers, the 7 o’clock shadow was probably selected because the printing of RANGERS goes from Top Left to Bottom right.
Apparently being the full-time manager now means that John McLaren can be incredibly lazy.
Also, what was up with the Virgin Islands’ canary yellow home unis last night? (Couldn’t find a picture)
[quote comment=”136083″]There was a White Sox fan who had S. Bartman on the back as a jab at his northside brethren.
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Steve B[/quote]
While I have to just shake my head in disappointment at the Sox fan wearing a Bartman jersey (you’re making the rest of us look bad, y’know?), I had to just call attention to the irony…
“Down and to the right. Down and to the right.” Funny.
I was at a Texas Rangers game in 1983 against the Oakland A’s in Arlington, TX. Both teams were wearing their road uniforms for this game. At the time, the Rangers road jersey was a blue top that said Texas with white pants. Here’s a picture.
Here’s the picture of the Ranger uniform
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[quote comment=”136091″][quote comment=”136083″]There was a White Sox fan who had S. Bartman on the back as a jab at his northside brethren.
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Steve B[/quote]
While I have to just shake my head in disappointment at the Sox fan wearing a Bartman jersey (you’re making the rest of us look bad, y’know?), I had to just call attention to the irony…[/quote]
Yeah, thankfully the B in my name doesn’t stand for Bartman.
Someone please tell me that the “Bad Ass” shoe is a photoshop job. Someone please tell me that there is not someone in this world annoying enough to have that put on a shoe.
[quote comment=”136081″]if link turns out to be true I will be VERY VERY VERY VERY upset. VERY upset.[/quote]
As you should be. That would surely be one of worst updates of a uniform ever.
Isn’t it just a 3D design and not really a shadow?
For anyone interested in seeing the New York Yankees gang caps, check out
For anyone interested in seeing the New York Yankees gang caps, check out link.
How interesting … I guess EVERY profession has uniforms in 2007 … with excessive logo creep to boot! Saw an autograph of this guy on a coworker’s wall … couldn’t help but share it here:
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It’s too bad that the NY Jets will not be dressing up as the “Titans” for a game against the current Titans. Now, that would be mind-blowing!
I know the Eagles will be wearing throwbacks a couple times this year for their 75th anni. Will they be wearing their throwbacks that week too?
[quote comment=”136098″]Someone please tell me that the “Bad Ass” shoe is a photoshop job. Someone please tell me that there is not someone in this world annoying enough to have that put on a shoe.[/quote]
It looks like a Band-aid stuck on there to me.
New Britain Rock Cats wore their Independence Day jerseys again Thursday night. Here’s how the team’s press release describes them:
“the Rock Cats will be honoring America by wearing their stylish red, white and blue uniforms. And they will be sporting those colorful jerseys as they look skyward to salute a Connecticut Air National Guard A-10 Flyover just before the game’s first pitch at 7:05 PM!”
[quote comment=”136098″]Someone please tell me that the “Bad Ass” shoe is a photoshop job. Someone please tell me that there is not someone in this world annoying enough to have that put on a shoe.
[quote comment=”136081″]if link turns out to be true I will be VERY VERY VERY VERY upset. VERY upset.[/quote]
As you should be. That would surely be one of worst updates of a uniform ever.[/quote]
I wonder if Jackson’s wallet says Bad Motherfucker on it.
Are the Mariners (thanfully) the only team that has broken out its BP jerseys for a regular season game this year? I know other teams have done so in the recent past, including the Twins, Expos and Padres.
So Brendan Ryan wears game socks, presumably red, that are toe socks under his red stirrups? I think not. Unless he has white toe sanitaries…
He wears white socks under his stirrups. I don’t know if those are the toe socks–I have never seen him with his shoes off.
The link wordmarks and numbers go down and to the left. Is that technically a block shadow?
[quote comment=”136116″]The link wordmarks and numbers go down and to the left. Is that technically a block shadow?[/quote]
No, that’s a bevel. And the Nats’ bevel indicates a light source coming from the left — which is the same thing indicated by a drop shadow going to the right. In other words, just another manifestation of the same phenomenon.
[quote comment=”136104″] ….. It’s too bad that the NY
I know the Eagles will be wearing throwbacks a couple times this year for their 75th anni. Will they be wearing their throwbacks that week too?[/quote]
Eagles will be wearing the Blue and Yellow only once. It will be for their 9/23 game against the Lions at the Linc.
We all know the term southpaw refers to a lefty pitcher. That term came from the fact that early ball fields were built so that home plate faced to the east. That way, the late afternoon sun wouldn’t be in the batter’s eyes, a dangerous situation when a baseball is thrown in your direction. The pitcher faced west, and if he was left handed, the ball would be thrown with his south side hand, his “south paw”. The sun setting in front of fielders and a little to their left would cause a shadow down and to the right. Maybe that is an explanation for that phenomenon.
But the Nationals light source would appear to come from the bottom left leaving the shadown top right
Better not let word get out about etching the Nike swoosh on the teeth, link may take you up on it!
I have my tickets for Eagles-Jets Oct. 14th. That’ll be fun – seeing throwbacks in action. (Though I’ll be wearing one of my caps with a bird on it!)
(And a friend who went to Marshall will be coming to see her “boyfriend.” Ha!)
Looks like the Leafs were inspired by link from the 2003 Juno awards. Hopefully the Canadiens don’t get link link.
Does anyone else find something strange about the Trenton Thunder logos? I mean, the primary is a cloud using a lightning bolt as a bat. The secondary uses an anthropomorphized lightning bolt holding an actual bat. Well if the lightning bolt is alive then I don’t think the cloud should be using it to swing with. I’m sure their tertiary logo will just combine the logos and have a cloud swinging a lightning bolt swinging a bat. Or just a bat that has been brought to life and thrown by Jose Offerman or something.
So, not Back and to the left?
[quote comment=”136122″]We all know the term southpaw refers to a lefty pitcher. That term came from the fact that early ball fields were built so that home plate faced to the east. That way, the late afternoon sun wouldn’t be in the batter’s eyes, a dangerous situation when a baseball is thrown in your direction. The pitcher faced west, and if he was left handed, the ball would be thrown with his south side hand, his “south paw”. The sun setting in front of fielders and a little to their left would cause a shadow down and to the right. Maybe that is an explanation for that phenomenon.[/quote]
Unless you go to link in Pittsfield, MA where the sun set DIRECTLY over the centerfield fence and night games played there regularly have a “sun delay” around the third inning
Paul,
The drop shadowing to bottom and right does not just pertain to lettering. In architecture school, we were taught when rendering to always depict the light source coming from the top left corner of the page because it was more visually appealing to have the shadows drop to the right rather than the other way around.
[quote comment=”136124″]But the Nationals light source would appear to come from the bottom left leaving the shadown top right[/quote]
It’s a dumb-looking logo that contrasts badly with the sweet cursive W on the cap.
[quote comment=”136103″]How interesting … I guess EVERY profession has uniforms in 2007 … with excessive logo creep to boot! Saw an autograph of this guy on a coworker’s wall … couldn’t help but share it here:
link
interesting, but i dont see logo creep here at all.
what i see is that enterprise rent-a-car has sponsored the rodeo clown or at least the clowns uniform. they have paid to put their bilboard on his clothes, just like they do for tv or print ads.
i think the term logo creep is starting to get thrown around way too loosely now.
if im not mistaken it was a term derived to mean that a manufacturers “logo” has “crept” all over the uniform and accessories, (ie. logos on shoes, socks, wristbands, braces, under-gear or mock shirts, gloves, et. al.) creating a distraction from the general uniform (like a virus spreading over it until it completely overtakes the uni)
i understand the above description from a manufacturers standpoint.
a swoosh, 3 stripes or vector on a shirt, wrist band, shoe, glove, towel, sock, whatever, is not logo creep, its identifying and branding a piece of apparel for the sake of resale.
now when worn all together, on a college or pro field, i guess i’ll have to say, yes its a bit much.
but there is a significant difference between the above and me wearing a nike logo’ed shirt to a game with my air max 360s
im not even gonna go into the crossword puzzle logo creep reference because i still dont understand what that meant.
I was at the Reds game last night–high, high up–and saw Javier Valentin write something in the dirt before an at bat. He did it twice: once on the edge of the dirt as he approached the plate from the on-deck circle and again when he entered the box and did the standard kicking the dirt around and digging your feet in. Both times he used the end of his bat to write something.
It looked like it started with a T and had an i in it, because he dotted something.
I figured he might be writing a kid’s name or something, but nowhere I’ve looked mentions children or even a wife.
Does anyone have any idea?
[quote comment=”136129″]Looks like the Leafs were inspired by link from the 2003 Juno awards. Hopefully the Canadiens don’t get link link.[/quote]
interesting use of thong straps by Shania in that Habs “uni”.
Canoe.ca has an link about the highly anticipated unveiling of the new Flames uniforms.
[quote comment=”136137″]Paul,
The drop shadowing to bottom and right does not just pertain to lettering. In architecture school, we were taught when rendering to always depict the light source coming from the top left corner of the page because it was more visually appealing to have the shadows drop to the right rather than the other way around.[/quote]
Faaaascinating. That’s precisely the type of info I was hoping this entry would generate. But WHY is it considered more visually appealing to have shadows dropping off to the right? On what basis was that determination made?
[quote comment=”136129″]Looks like the Leafs were inspired by link from the 2003 Juno awards. Hopefully the Canadiens don’t get link link.[/quote]
While I never hope to see any profesional team look like that, seeing Shania like that makes this hockey fan feel warm and fuzzy inside.
[quote comment=”136130″]Does anyone else find something strange about the Trenton Thunder logos? I mean, the primary is a cloud using a lightning bolt as a bat. The secondary uses an anthropomorphized lightning bolt holding an actual bat. Well if the lightning bolt is alive then I don’t think the cloud should be using it to swing with. I’m sure their tertiary logo will just combine the logos and have a cloud swinging a lightning bolt swinging a bat. Or just a bat that has been brought to life and thrown by Jose Offerman or something.[/quote]
Strangely enough, I was thinking the same thing. I love the cloud swinging the lightning bolt…but it was kind of weird to see the bolt swinging the bat.
[quote comment=”136145″][quote comment=”136137″]Paul,
The drop shadowing to bottom and right does not just pertain to lettering. In architecture school, we were taught when rendering to always depict the light source coming from the top left corner of the page because it was more visually appealing to have the shadows drop to the right rather than the other way around.[/quote]
Faaaascinating. That’s precisely the type of info I was hoping this entry would generate. But WHY is it considered more visually appealing to have shadows dropping off to the right? On what basis was that determination made?[/quote]
Personally, I really think it’s just the “right-handed” mindset here where we read going to the right and drive on the right side of the road. Having things on or going to the right just looks right.
[quote comment=”136129″]Looks like the Leafs were inspired by link from the 2003 Juno awards. Hopefully the Canadiens don’t get link link.[/quote]
While I hope to never see a hockey team outfitted like that, seeing Shania dressed like that makes this hockey fan warm and fuzzy inside.
The Reds’ road uniforms of recent years had a shifting shadow on the word Cincinnati. link.
Whereby the “C” at the left end has a 5 o’clock shadow, gradually moves to the center, and the “I” at the right end has a 7 o’clock shadow – inconsistant with the numbers and the name plates on the back.
Paul,
Regarding the previously mentioned drop shadows, it is more eye pleasing because we do visually see things first and foremost on the left and then go down and to the right. That’s why when you look at a newspaper page, when they have a photo in a column, it is always set to the left of the column, as it is more visually appealing as it creates a more natural eye movement. I as told in college this is due to the left-to-right nature of things in western civilization, so I don’t know what that means for places that go right to left…
Frank
[quote comment=”136130″]Does anyone else find something strange about the Trenton Thunder logos? I mean, the primary is a cloud using a lightning bolt as a bat. The secondary uses an anthropomorphized lightning bolt holding an actual bat. Well if the lightning bolt is alive then I don’t think the cloud should be using it to swing with. I’m sure their tertiary logo will just combine the logos and have a cloud swinging a lightning bolt swinging a bat. Or just a bat that has been brought to life and thrown by Jose Offerman or something.[/quote]
Maybe they just combine them all to have the lightning bolt swinging a bat at the cloud?
~E~
Lauren Jackson’s 153 on her shoe is a reference to her current number (15 on both the Storm and Australian National Team) and a former number.
The 15 also represents the uniform number that her mother wore (link). Both of her parents represented Australia basketball — #3 may well have been her old man’s number though I can’t find any record of it.
[quote comment=”136155″]Paul,
Regarding the previously mentioned drop shadows, it is more eye pleasing because we do visually see things first and foremost on the left and then go down and to the right. That’s why when you look at a newspaper page, when they have a photo in a column, it is always set to the left of the column, as it is more visually appealing as it creates a more natural eye movement. I as told in college this is due to the left-to-right nature of things in western civilization, so I don’t know what that means for places that go right to left…
Frank[/quote]
Publication design is more complex than that, actually. Placement on the right-hand page of a two-page spread is always considered more valuable than being on the left-hand page, because when you turn the page, the first thing you see on the newly revealed spread is the right page. The upper-right slot is the choicest spot.
But your basic point about our cultural predisposition toward left-to-right formats is well taken. So: For cultures that read right to left, do you think they use left-leaning drop shadows?
I thought the 153 on her shoes was to remind her how much she gets paid per game to play in the WNBA.
So I asked my Step-Ma (who is a Rep. for UST Golf Shafts on the PGA Tour) about the “link” the Golfers are wearing in Westchester this week. This is what she said:
“Its to raise awareness for a charity.
A guy from wall street whose son has brain cancer started the whole thing. They are made of all kinds of skins-alligator, croc, ostrich. They start at 500 dollars and go up to fifteen hundred dollars. A lot of players have been wearing them for years-Darren Clarke first made them popular. So this week they are all wearing the blue in unison.”
I think some of that info was on the link but that is from a tour veteran. Hope it sheds a bit more light on the subject.
[quote comment=”136158″]
But your basic point about our cultural predisposition toward left-to-right formats is well taken. So: For cultures that read right to left, do you think they use left-leaning drop shadows?[/quote]
Not in the Israel Baseball League . . .
In link there are photos of the Tel Aviv Lightning. I believe they are wearing BP Shirts/Jerseys, but the lettering is in Hebrew and the drop shadow is clearly “down and to the right” . . .
[quote comment=”136139″]im not even gonna go into the crossword puzzle logo creep reference because i still dont understand what that meant.[/quote]
I do crosswords fairly regularly and you don’t normally see corporate names in them, much less twice in one puzzle. Guess I misused the term “logo creep”…I promise to do better next time. I was bringing forth (the millionth) piece of evidence that Nike is taking over the world. Sorry, I’ll make sure to consult with you before using any terms or phrases from now on.
[quote comment=”136164″][quote comment=”136158″]
But your basic point about our cultural predisposition toward left-to-right formats is well taken. So: For cultures that read right to left, do you think they use left-leaning drop shadows?[/quote]
Not in the Israel Baseball League . . .
In link there are photos of the Tel Aviv Lightning. I believe they are wearing BP Shirts/Jerseys, but the lettering is in Hebrew and the drop shadow is clearly “down and to the right” . . .[/quote]
No drop shadows as all in link, though I think it’s interesting that the logo on the golf shirt is on the right chest instead of the left, where a typical US golf shirt would have a logo . . .
Don’t both teams technically wear road jerseys when the Padres wear their sand pants with their military appreciation jersey and hats?
What stadium is that on the front page today? Anyways, it reminded me that Miller Park is absolutly rancid on really sunny day games because the shadow creeps over the pitchers mound. So the batter sees half the ball in sunlight, and half in the shadows.
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Paul is right, on a two page spread we always look at the right-hand page first, because the other one is covered until completely open. However when looking at one page, our eyes move in a Z movement.
I was also taught that in design always put the light source in the top left. That way, when our eyes move in their natural Z motion (at least natural for English speakers, and other related languages), the drop shadow does not distract us and take our eyes off course, working against what we naturally want to do.
I have never been a huge fan of blocks or drop shadows on jerseys, though. I was still in high school when the 49ers introduced their 3-D block lettering, and I remember thinking, “Do they put that 3-D design there because they want me to actually think, ‘WOW! Those letters are three-dimensional, are they really coming off the jersey!?’â€Â
I later came to realize why I don’t like it. Drop SHADOWS are okay because we naturally expect to see a shadow down there. But drop BLOCK lettering makes no sense because the three-dimensional aspect is underneath the letter. However, we watch sports from the same level or above the players. Hence, the old Senators 3-D block lettering is the only one I have ever liked, because we should naturally be seeing the tops of the blocks, anyway.
[quote comment=”136169″]What stadium is that on the front page today? Anyways, it reminded me that Miller Park is absolutly rancid on really sunny day games because the shadow creeps over the pitchers mound. So the batter sees half the ball in sunlight, and half in the shadows.
link[/quote]
From the shape of the shadows it looks like it might be old Busch Stadium in St. Louis . . .the shadows are arched and that was a major design component of the stadium. I don’t know if the new stadium echoes the same element.
[quote comment=”136140″]I was at the Reds game last night–high, high up–and saw Javier Valentin write something in the dirt before an at bat. He did it twice: once on the edge of the dirt as he approached the plate from the on-deck circle and again when he entered the box and did the standard kicking the dirt around and digging your feet in. Both times he used the end of his bat to write something.
It looked like it started with a T and had an i in it, because he dotted something.
I figured he might be writing a kid’s name or something, but nowhere I’ve looked mentions children or even a wife.
Does anyone have any idea?[/quote]
I don’t know about Valentin, but I have noticed several players doing this at games that I have attended this year. It must be a fad.
Here’s something that has bothered me for years, and I’ve just now decided to put it in writing. Why is it that the Dodgers use red for the number on the front of their link? Don’t get me wrong, I love their unis, but I’ve always wondered why they use a color that appears practically nowhere else in their color schemes. The only other place you’ll find red in Dodgerland is link. And if you want to use that as the basis for your argument that their team colors are “blue and red”, then you would also have to say the link are also a “blue and red” team. And I just won’t buy that.
Are there any other teams that use a secondary color so minimally in their uniforms??
From yesterday’s comments:
[quote comment=”135873″][quote comment=”135836″]In yesterday’s A’s/Blue Jays game, Esteban Loaiza was making his first start of the season, and wearing high socks. But his socks had A’s logos on the bottom, which I’d never heard of before. The A’s radio crew were talking about them in the bottom of the first, and they’d never seen them before, either, even though a few A’s players wear high socks. Unfortunately, yesterday’s game wasn’t televized, and the MLB.TV Jaysvision feed isn’t very good, but you can make out a bit of a blur on Loaiza’s socks. Hopefully he wears them again for his next start.[/quote]
Those were not socks! Those were stirrups!!! With A’s logos!!!
You can barely make out the logos here.
He’s also wearing 25. I haven’t seen that number on an A since ‘97. I guess the un-official retirement of that number is over.[/quote]
Thanks for correcting me on the socks/stirrups issue. When I first heard about it, I assumed they were stirrups, but when I finally got to see the game (it was blacked out in Canada, even though it wasn’t televised), I couldn’t see any yellow, so I assumed they were socks. Does Blanton wear green socks, or are those really low stirrups, too?
Didn’t Loaiza wear 25 last year, too? I’ll have to check my various nerdy scorecards and other materials when I get home today.
For me, when the drop shadow is down and to the left, it gives the appearance of the word rising off the background. When it’s down and to the right, it looks more like the word is casting a shadow.
[quote comment=”136138″][quote comment=”136124″]But the Nationals light source would appear to come from the bottom left leaving the shadown top right[/quote]
It’s a link linkthat contrasts badly with the sweet cursive link on the link.[/quote]
two teams wearing road uniforms? I’d never heard about this before. Anyone else?
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Yes, Cubs wore road grays at home for some games of both the 06 and 07 WS’s. It was not without controversy, especially in 07 vs. Detroit when it was gray vs. gray.
Check out these Polish cycling jerseys…
link
not a photoshopped pic…
its actually on her shoe
link
[quote comment=”136174″]Here’s something that has bothered me for years, and I’ve just now decided to put it in writing. Why is it that the Dodgers use red for the number on the front of their link? Don’t get me wrong, I love their unis, but I’ve always wondered why they use a color that appears practically nowhere else in their color schemes. The only other place you’ll find red in Dodgerland is link. And if you want to use that as the basis for your argument that their team colors are “blue and red”, then you would also have to say the link are also a “blue and red” team. And I just won’t buy that.
Are there any other teams that use a secondary color so minimally in their uniforms??[/quote]
I’ve always felt the orange on the Tigers road jersey was odd too.
[quote comment=”136181″]Check out these Polish cycling jerseys…
link
More like Polish sausage. Yikes.
[quote comment=”136183″][quote comment=”136174″]Here’s something that has bothered me for years, and I’ve just now decided to put it in writing. Why is it that the Dodgers use red for the number on the front of their link? Don’t get me wrong, I love their unis, but I’ve always wondered why they use a color that appears practically nowhere else in their color schemes. The only other place you’ll find red in Dodgerland is link. And if you want to use that as the basis for your argument that their team colors are “blue and red”, then you would also have to say the link are also a “blue and red” team. And I just won’t buy that.
Are there any other teams that use a secondary color so minimally in their uniforms??[/quote]
I’ve always felt the orange on the Tigers road jersey was odd too.[/quote]
Black on the Met’s. They should really use that color more. It’s looks so good on them {/sarcasm]
[quote comment=”136155″]Paul,
Regarding the previously mentioned drop shadows, it is more eye pleasing because we do visually see things first and foremost on the left and then go down and to the right. That’s why when you look at a newspaper page, when they have a photo in a column, it is always set to the left of the column, as it is more visually appealing as it creates a more natural eye movement. I as told in college this is due to the left-to-right nature of things in western civilization, so I don’t know what that means for places that go right to left…
Frank[/quote]
When I worked at a newspaper, our common rule of thumb was you place the picture in relation to the text so that the person/people in the picture are looking at the text, therefor guiding you to the text. The other option would be if you had a picture of say a horse running, we would always put the object so thaty it was moving into the story, instead of away. This lead to several pictures on the right side of the story/page.
If the pictures were simple head shots/landscape, they were almost always on the left though.
I’ve always felt the orange on the Tigers road jersey was odd too.[/quote]
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Nothing odd about it. They first included orange in 1901. It was dropped for a few decades, then reappeared in the 1920’s, then again in the 40’s and 50’s, went away for awhile and reappeared again in the 70’s.
[quote comment=”136182″]not a photoshopped pic…
its actually on her shoe
link
link
this one has 315 here…
[quote comment=”136188″]I’ve always felt the orange on the Tigers road jersey was odd too.[/quote]
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Nothing odd about it. They first included orange in 1901. It was dropped for a few decades, then reappeared in the 1920’s, then again in the 40’s and 50’s, went away for awhile and reappeared again in the 70’s.[/quote]
I understand that… but where is it on the homes?
Has anyone else heard that Portland Beavers are thinking about changing their nickname? They have a webpage where you can link.
The names and rough concept logos for five potential nicknames: Beavers, Green Sox, Sockeyes, Thorns, and Wet Sox. I find nothing wrong with the Beavers nickname. It has plenty of history behind it. But how cool of a nickname is Wet Sox? I can’t put it into words.
[quote comment=”136090″]for the rangers, the 7 o’clock shadow was probably selected because the printing of RANGERS goes from Top Left to Bottom right.[/quote]
I like the shadow down to the left – gives the appearance of forward motion – or am I the only nitwit who sees it that way?
[quote comment=”136190″][quote comment=”136188″]I’ve always felt the orange on the Tigers road jersey was odd too.[/quote]
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Nothing odd about it. They first included orange in 1901. It was dropped for a few decades, then reappeared in the 1920’s, then again in the 40’s and 50’s, went away for awhile and reappeared again in the 70’s.[/quote]
I understand that… but where is it on the homes?[/quote]
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Good point – that split began in 1972 with orange only in the road unis. They could put orange stripes on the socks.
[quote comment=”136193″][quote comment=”136090″]for the rangers, the 7 o’clock shadow was probably selected because the printing of RANGERS goes from Top Left to Bottom right.[/quote]
I like the shadow down to the left – gives the appearance of forward motion – or am I the only nitwit who sees it that way?[/quote]
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I don’t think you are a nitwit, but why is that forward? It depends on where you are going. If you are going down and to the left, it would be backward motion.
[quote comment=”136197″][quote comment=”136193″][quote comment=”136090″]for the rangers, the 7 o’clock shadow was probably selected because the printing of RANGERS goes from Top Left to Bottom right.[/quote]
I like the shadow down to the left – gives the appearance of forward motion – or am I the only nitwit who sees it that way?[/quote]
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I don’t think you are a nitwit, but why is that forward? It depends on where you are going. If you are going down and to the left, it would be backward motion.[/quote]
It’s that standard right-handed, left-to-right thing that’s ingrained in me I guess.
[quote comment=”136180″]two teams wearing road uniforms? I’d never heard about this before. Anyone else?
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Yes, Cubs wore road grays at home for some games of both the 06 and 07 WS’s. It was not without controversy, especially in 07 vs. Detroit when it was gray vs. gray.[/quote]
Cubs? In the WS? Vs. Detroit?
I think you mean the Cardinals.
On the NY Rangers website, the new RBK edge jerseys are for sale for a whopping price of 114.99 for a jersey with no name on the back. Strange this is, you could still buy the old style of jersey, but only the white one. Seems very strange to me.
Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link
[quote comment=”136120″][quote comment=”136116″]The link wordmarks and numbers go down and to the left. Is that technically a block shadow?[/quote]
No, that’s a bevel. And the Nats’ bevel indicates a light source coming from the left — which is the same thing indicated by a drop shadow going to the right. In other words, just another manifestation of the same phenomenon.[/quote]
the thing is that shadow actually has the light source from the LOWER left. Bottoms and lefts are in light, tops and rights are dark.
[quote comment=”136129″]Looks like the Leafs were inspired by link from the 2003 Juno awards. Hopefully the Canadiens don’t get link link.[/quote]
if shania’s in the pic I don’t care what shes wearing, its gonna be a good pic.
[quote comment=”136097″][quote comment=”136091″][quote comment=”136083″]There was a White Sox fan who had S. Bartman on the back as a jab at his northside brethren.
…
Steve B[/quote]
While I have to just shake my head in disappointment at the Sox fan wearing a Bartman jersey (you’re making the rest of us look bad, y’know?), I had to just call attention to the irony…[/quote]
Yeah, thankfully the B in my name doesn’t stand for Bartman.[/quote]
I was at the Cubs-Cards game last Saturday and a Card fan has a Card jeresy with Bartman on the back and the number 1908.
Horrible!
[quote comment=”136149″][quote comment=”136145″][quote comment=”136137″]Paul,
The drop shadowing to bottom and right does not just pertain to lettering. In architecture school, we were taught when rendering to always depict the light source coming from the top left corner of the page because it was more visually appealing to have the shadows drop to the right rather than the other way around.[/quote]
Faaaascinating. That’s precisely the type of info I was hoping this entry would generate. But WHY is it considered more visually appealing to have shadows dropping off to the right? On what basis was that determination made?[/quote]
Personally, I really think it’s just the “right-handed” mindset here where we read going to the right and drive on the right side of the road. Having things on or going to the right just looks right.[/quote]
So… do most Japanese uni number shadows go bottom left???
[quote comment=”136200″][quote comment=”136180″]two teams wearing road uniforms? I’d never heard about this before. Anyone else?
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Yes, Cubs wore road grays at home for some games of both the 06 and 07 WS’s. It was not without controversy, especially in 07 vs. Detroit when it was gray vs. gray.[/quote]
Cubs? In the WS? Vs. Detroit?
I think you mean the Cardinals.[/quote]
07 WS? cubs v detroit? if you can see the future lemme know so i can put money down..
[quote comment=”136200″][quote comment=”136180″]two teams wearing road uniforms? I’d never heard about this before. Anyone else?
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Yes, Cubs wore road grays at home for some games of both the 06 and 07 WS’s. It was not without controversy, especially in 07 vs. Detroit when it was gray vs. gray.[/quote]
Cubs? In the WS? Vs. Detroit?
I think you mean the Cardinals.[/quote]
1906 World Series – Chicago Cubs vs. Chicago White Sox
1907 World Series – Chicago Cubs vs. Detroit Tigers
[quote comment=”136181″]Check out these Polish cycling jerseys…
link
big red penis’s
When I was in Cairo, I sorta half followed a soccer club called Al Ahly. This is the best picture I found of the back of their link, and I’m going back and forth about whether or not there’s a shadow down and to the left of the numbers. On the front there definitely isn’t, but I’m not sure that says anything about how the back looks. As far as the general argument, it makes perfect sense to me that we think left-to-right is the way to do things because that’s how we read, while Arabic and Hebrew-readers would do their shadows in the opposite direction. For a possible example, I think the shadows direct you through the numbers, so if the number is 25, the shadow on the 2 should direct your eye to the 5 (I’ve read how comic books are written and they absolutely attempt to create a flow with the text and shadowing), whereas if it were the other way around (though, now that I think about it, the Al Ahly jerseys use the same left-to-right numbering system westerners do…) you’d want your eye to be drawn the other way. Maybe an example of Arabic numerals on a jersey would have down and left shadowing?
Man, I think I’ve confused myself in my own argument. Hopefully I haven’t lost everyone else too…
Not sure if someone already said this earlier today, but Mike Lowell has been wearing that protective batting glove for most of the season, not just recently. I think he may have been hit in the hand.
[quote comment=”136200″][quote comment=”136180″]two teams wearing road uniforms? I’d never heard about this before. Anyone else?
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Yes, Cubs wore road grays at home for some games of both the 06 and 07 WS’s. It was not without controversy, especially in 07 vs. Detroit when it was gray vs. gray.[/quote]
Cubs? In the WS? Vs. Detroit?
I think you mean the Cardinals.[/quote]
I think he meant 1906-1907. Did people care that much about road vs. home back then?
I’m curious.
[quote comment=”136136″][quote comment=”136122″]We all know the term southpaw refers to a lefty pitcher. That term came from the fact that early ball fields were built so that home plate faced to the east. That way, the late afternoon sun wouldn’t be in the batter’s eyes, a dangerous situation when a baseball is thrown in your direction. The pitcher faced west, and if he was left handed, the ball would be thrown with his south side hand, his “south paw”. The sun setting in front of fielders and a little to their left would cause a shadow down and to the right. Maybe that is an explanation for that phenomenon.[/quote]
Unless you go to link in Pittsfield, MA where the sun set DIRECTLY over the centerfield fence and night games played there regularly have a “sun delay” around the third inning[/quote]
I played in a few games at the Pittsfield Vintage Base Ball Tournament this year and during the second game we played we definitely had a “sun delay” for about half an hour while the sun set over the centerfield wall.
Batting was near impossible.
[quote comment=”136200″][quote comment=”136180″]two teams wearing road uniforms? I’d never heard about this before. Anyone else?
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Yes, Cubs wore road grays at home for some games of both the 06 and 07 WS’s. It was not without controversy, especially in 07 vs. Detroit when it was gray vs. gray.[/quote]
Cubs? In the WS? Vs. Detroit?
I think you mean the Cardinals.[/quote]
1907 and 1908
[quote comment=”136205″][quote comment=”136129″]Looks like the Leafs were inspired by link from the 2003 Juno awards. Hopefully the Canadiens don’t get link link.[/quote]
if shania’s in the pic I don’t care what shes wearing, its gonna be a good pic.[/quote]
The best thing about a Shania picture? You don’t have to hear her singing.
[quote comment=”136158″][quote comment=”136155″]Paul,
Regarding the previously mentioned drop shadows, it is more eye pleasing because we do visually see things first and foremost on the left and then go down and to the right. That’s why when you look at a newspaper page, when they have a photo in a column, it is always set to the left of the column, as it is more visually appealing as it creates a more natural eye movement. I as told in college this is due to the left-to-right nature of things in western civilization, so I don’t know what that means for places that go right to left…
Frank[/quote]
Publication design is more complex than that, actually. Placement on the right-hand page of a two-page spread is always considered more valuable than being on the left-hand page, because when you turn the page, the first thing you see on the newly revealed spread is the right page. The upper-right slot is the choicest spot.
But your basic point about our cultural predisposition toward left-to-right formats is well taken. So: For cultures that read right to left, do you think they use left-leaning drop shadows?[/quote]
So much for Ctrl-F… Anyway, two more thoughts: My first reaction to the phenomenom was that for the longest time, bottom right shadow was all that was available on the computer. Your 3D and Shadow fonts had no way of altering them. Now about how the eye reads a page – when it come to a one pager, the eye falls roughly in the two o’clock position, then travels counterclockwise all the way around back to that spot. As for a newspaper, it may be different because we fall into the top left to bottom right habit of reading.
[quote comment=”136200″][quote comment=”136180″]two teams wearing road uniforms? I’d never heard about this before. Anyone else?
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Yes, Cubs wore road grays at home for some games of both the 06 and 07 WS’s. It was not without controversy, especially in 07 vs. Detroit when it was gray vs. gray.[/quote]
Cubs? In the WS? Vs. Detroit?
I think you mean the Cardinals.[/quote]
I think he means 1906 and 1907 . . . though factually speaking it was 1907 and 1908 when the Cubs faced the Tigers. They played the White Sox in 1906 (yes that’s right Cubs’ fans, 3 straight seasons in the WS!!)
Can someone explain to me the difference between “block” shadows and “drop” shadows? I really have no idea.
[quote comment=”136181″]Check out these Polish cycling jerseys…
link
dammit.
[quote comment=”136140″]I was at the Reds game last night–high, high up–and saw Javier Valentin write something in the dirt before an at bat. He did it twice: once on the edge of the dirt as he approached the plate from the on-deck circle and again when he entered the box and did the standard kicking the dirt around and digging your feet in. Both times he used the end of his bat to write something.
It looked like it started with a T and had an i in it, because he dotted something.
I figured he might be writing a kid’s name or something, but nowhere I’ve looked mentions children or even a wife.
Does anyone have any idea?[/quote]
Whoever heard of a latino needing a wife in order to have kids???
What stadium is that on the front page today? Anyways, it reminded me that Miller Park is absolutly rancid on really sunny day games because the shadow creeps over the pitchers mound. So the batter sees half the ball in sunlight, and half in the shadows.
Shadows at Miller Park
From the shape of the shadows it looks like it might be old Busch Stadium in St. Louis . . .the shadows are arched and that was a major design component of the stadium. I don’t know if the new stadium echoes the same element.
That absolutely is old Busch stadium. No the new stadium doesnt get the shadows like old Busch did. New Busch is like watching a ballgame in an applebees.
[quote comment=”136181″]Check out these Polish cycling jerseys…
link
Dude…….
[quote comment=”136219″][quote comment=”136200″][quote comment=”136180″]two teams wearing road uniforms? I’d never heard about this before. Anyone else?
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Yes, Cubs wore road grays at home for some games of both the 06 and 07 WS’s. It was not without controversy, especially in 07 vs. Detroit when it was gray vs. gray.[/quote]
Cubs? In the WS? Vs. Detroit?
I think you mean the Cardinals.[/quote]
I think he means 1906 and 1907 . . . though factually speaking it was 1907 and 1908 when the Cubs faced the Tigers. They played the White Sox in 1906 (yes that’s right Cubs’ fans, 3 straight seasons in the WS!!)[/quote]
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Yes it is 1906-1907 (you’d think posters on this site would know that), thought that would be obvious. And “factually speaking”, it was 06-07 when they wore rode grays at home, not in 08.
The Cubs wore road unis at home, Game 5 of 06 WS vs. the White Sox, and in the 1907 WS vs. Detroit. They did not wear road gray at home in the 1908 WS.
[quote comment=”136209″][quote comment=”136200″][quote comment=”136180″]two teams wearing road uniforms? I’d never heard about this before. Anyone else?
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Yes, Cubs wore road grays at home for some games of both the 06 and 07 WS’s. It was not without controversy, especially in 07 vs. Detroit when it was gray vs. gray.[/quote]
Cubs? In the WS? Vs. Detroit?
I think you mean the Cardinals.[/quote]
1906 World Series – Chicago Cubs vs. Chicago White Sox
1907 World Series – Chicago Cubs vs. Detroit Tigers[/quote]
Oh!!! Sorry, people. I thought he meant 2006 and 2007. Lost that one in netspeak translation. Did they have two sets of uniforms back then for home and away?
[quote comment=”136213″][quote comment=”136200″][quote comment=”136180″]two teams wearing road uniforms? I’d never heard about this before. Anyone else?
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Yes, Cubs wore road grays at home for some games of both the 06 and 07 WS’s. It was not without controversy, especially in 07 vs. Detroit when it was gray vs. gray.[/quote]
Cubs? In the WS? Vs. Detroit?
I think you mean the Cardinals.[/quote]
I think he meant 1906-1907. Did people care that much about road vs. home back then?
I’m curious.[/quote]
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Yes they did. First of all, since every team had distinct road and home uniforms, people must have cared. In 07, there were complaints in Chicago when both teams wore gray (these were special gray WS uniforms – different than the regular season road unis). They Cubs then switched back to home whites.
In 06, the White Sox wore navy blue on the road, so there was no chance of fans getting confused.
[quote comment=”136200″][quote comment=”136180″]two teams wearing road uniforms? I’d never heard about this before. Anyone else?
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Yes, Cubs wore road grays at home for some games of both the 06 and 07 WS’s. It was not without controversy, especially in 07 vs. Detroit when it was gray vs. gray.[/quote]
Cubs? In the WS? Vs. Detroit?
I think you mean the Cardinals.[/quote]
I think those years were 1906 and 1907 not 2007.
this blog, to me, is kinda like sitting at your favorite with your buddies…
so i gotta share this with ya…
its been making the email circuit so some of you may have gotten it,
it might be the funniest email i got in years…
link
[quote comment=”136180″]two teams wearing road uniforms? I’d never heard about this before. Anyone else?
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Yes, Cubs wore road grays at home for some games of both the 06 and 07 WS’s. It was not without controversy, especially in 07 vs. Detroit when it was gray vs. gray.[/quote]
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Since this created a bit more interest than I anticipated, I may as well provide a couple of links:
Det 1907
link
Cubs 1907
link
Whoever heard of a latino needing a wife in order to have kids???
“I think I’ll select racist generalizations for $400, Alex.”
[quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily
[quote comment=”136236″]Whoever heard of a latino needing a wife in order to have kids???
“I think I’ll select racist generalizations for $400, Alex.”[/quote]
That’s “an album cover” not “anal bum cover” Sean.
[quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
That’s an awsome collection and I wish it were mine.
Iin regards to the YouTub link – I’m at work and watched it muted and laughed. I can only imagine how funny it is with sound and can’t wait to get home to find out.
Looks like the Leafs were inspired by Shania Twain’s version of jersey from the 2003 Juno awards. Hopefully the Canadiens don’t get the same idea.
Is there any info out there on the Leafs new jersey? All I’ve heard is they are going to be applying a drop shadow to the logo (to the left or right I am not sure..).
[quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
link is probably my favorite hockey sweater ever.
[quote comment=”136081″]if link turns out to be true I will be VERY VERY VERY VERY upset. VERY upset.[/quote]
Wow, the folks at MLSE have just proven that they can and will do anything to the leafs and people will pay way too much money just to watch them play. The Leafs lost me years ago, check that the NHL lost me but I cannot even be a casual fan if this rendering is true.
[quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
Um . . .wow.
All you’re missing is one of those link sweaters (jerseys) for formal occasions.
Regarding types of numbers on jerseys they used in the early sixties the beginning and end of the 3 has a little-comma.. I know it’s not called a comma, but would anybody know what these types of numbers are called?link at the end of the number. You can see it on the 2 in link. I just prefer these types over the basic box or even rounded numbers. I personally use the addition or accent on my three’s/fives and two’s. Any number experts have a specific name for these?
[quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
“Up and to the link…” Most likely copying the Rangers.
[quote comment=”136248″]Regarding types of numbers on jerseys they used in the early sixties the beginning and end of the 3 has a little-comma.. I know it’s not called a comma, but would anybody know what these types of numbers are called?link at the end of the number. You can see it on the 2 in link. I just prefer these types over the basic box or even rounded numbers. I personally use the addition or accent on my three’s/fives and two’s. Any number experts have a specific name for these?[/quote]
I would just call them serifs, but if there’s a typography expert out there, please correct me . . .
[quote comment=”136248″]Regarding types of numbers on jerseys they used in the early sixties the beginning and end of the 3 has a little-comma.. I know it’s not called a comma, but would anybody know what these types of numbers are called?link at the end of the number. You can see it on the 2 in link. I just prefer these types over the basic box or even rounded numbers. I personally use the addition or accent on my three’s/fives and two’s. Any number experts have a specific name for these?[/quote]
I believe those are called serifs.
Regarding the “one and done” research project, I remember when I was a student at ND, Digger Phelps, ever the flamboyant one, put the Irish men hoopster in neon green uniforms for a home game vs. Syracuse.
I have spent the past few days combing for net for some proof, and though I haven’t found any pictures, I did find some journalistic proof.
link
link
[quote comment=”136251″][quote comment=”136248″]Regarding types of numbers on jerseys they used in the early sixties the beginning and end of the 3 has a little-comma.. I know it’s not called a comma, but would anybody know what these types of numbers are called?link at the end of the number. You can see it on the 2 in link. I just prefer these types over the basic box or even rounded numbers. I personally use the addition or accent on my three’s/fives and two’s. Any number experts have a specific name for these?[/quote]
I would just call them serifs, but if there’s a typography expert out there, please correct me . . .[/quote]
That’s what I figured it was called, but if you look up serifs it just says details on the ends of some of the strokes that make up letters and symbols. Says nothing about number serifs..
[quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
You spent money on that ugly third Dallas jersey???
[quote comment=”136256″][quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
You spent money on that ugly third Dallas jersey???[/quote]
The Mooterus is awesome!!
On or about 6/19/1979, the White Sox wore their all navy roadies in a home game against Seattle. Seattle wore their standard powder blue road unis. I remember Harry Caray (he worked for the Sox in the 70s) explaining that the equipment manager thought wearing the roads would help since the team had a better record on the road up to that point. It didn’t, of course, as the Sox lost.
[quote comment=”136256″][quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
You spent money on that ugly third Dallas jersey???[/quote]
lol i do love an ugly jersey, and the mooterus is up there as far as they go. i only paid $25 for it, so it was well worth it.
and you’re right, i do need one of those tuxedo jerseys!
[quote comment=”136261″][quote comment=”136256″][quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
You spent money on that ugly third Dallas jersey???[/quote]
lol i do love an ugly jersey, and the mooterus is up there as far as they go. i only paid $25 for it, so it was well worth it.
and you’re right, i do need one of those tuxedo jerseys![/quote]
Well, most certainly an impressive collection! I encourage anyone who wants to make a flikr tribute to their jerseys! Especially… if we can access it by clicking on your profile in the membership card gallery!
[quote comment=”136262″][quote comment=”136261″][quote comment=”136256″][quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
You spent money on that ugly third Dallas jersey???[/quote]
lol i do love an ugly jersey, and the mooterus is up there as far as they go. i only paid $25 for it, so it was well worth it.
and you’re right, i do need one of those tuxedo jerseys![/quote]
Well, most certainly an impressive collection! I encourage anyone who wants to make a flikr tribute to their jerseys! Especially… if we can access it by clicking on your profile in the membership card gallery![/quote]
If I can dig mine out from under the stairs I will. Don’t worry, they’re properly stored in a container so that they don’t get ruined.
[quote comment=”136240″][quote comment=”136236″]Whoever heard of a latino needing a wife in order to have kids???
“I think I’ll select racist generalizations for $400, Alex.”[/quote]
That’s “an album cover” not “anal bum cover” Sean.[/quote]
yeah Alex, I’ll take ape tit for $200.”
“No, it’s not ‘ape tit’ its a petit..oh never mind!”
[quote comment=”136261″][quote comment=”136256″][quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
You spent money on that ugly third Dallas jersey???[/quote]
lol i do love an ugly jersey, and the mooterus is up there as far as they go. i only paid $25 for it, so it was well worth it.
and you’re right, i do need one of those tuxedo jerseys![/quote]
I too recently picked up a Mooterus unit (less than $20; sweet). I figured that I needed something so historically ugly despite the fact that I am not a collector of hockey sweaters.
[quote comment=”136161″]I thought the 153 on her shoes was to remind her how much she gets paid per game to play in the WNBA.[/quote]
I was gonna guess that its her height in inches.
[quote comment=”136181″]Check out these Polish cycling jerseys…
link
Obviously, Polish sausage.
Does anyone know why the New York Titans changed their name to the Jets? They should have kept it Titans if only to not subject us to Chris Berman saying “J-E-T-S Jets”. We know you can spell with your Ivy league degree, pal!
i know link before, but link did an article talking about link today.
[quote comment=”136271″]i know link before, but link did an article talking about link today.[/quote]
How did he do this with the new black underbills? Silver ink pen?
[quote comment=”136262″][quote comment=”136261″][quote comment=”136256″][quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
You spent money on that ugly third Dallas jersey???[/quote]
lol i do love an ugly jersey, and the mooterus is up there as far as they go. i only paid $25 for it, so it was well worth it.
and you’re right, i do need one of those tuxedo jerseys![/quote]
Well, most certainly an impressive collection! I encourage anyone who wants to make a flikr tribute to their jerseys! Especially… if we can access it by clicking on your profile in the membership card gallery![/quote]
I’m actually working on my Flickr page with all my game worn jerseys right now. You can see some of the collection link but I still have about 10-15 more to photograph.
I also have a gallery of pictures I took at the Football HOF in Canton back in 02. I got there like 15 minutes before they closed and they let me in for free as long as I left on the hour. I pretty much ran through taking pictures of every display and focusing on the Skins (my team). Lots of good old pics in there, you guys are welcome to check it out.
[quote comment=”136274″][quote comment=”136262″][quote comment=”136261″][quote comment=”136256″][quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
You spent money on that ugly third Dallas jersey???[/quote]
lol i do love an ugly jersey, and the mooterus is up there as far as they go. i only paid $25 for it, so it was well worth it.
and you’re right, i do need one of those tuxedo jerseys![/quote]
Well, most certainly an impressive collection! I encourage anyone who wants to make a flikr tribute to their jerseys! Especially… if we can access it by clicking on your profile in the membership card gallery![/quote]
I’m actually working on my Flickr page with all my game worn jerseys right now. You can see some of the collection link but I still have about 10-15 more to photograph.
I also have a gallery of pictures I took at the Football HOF in Canton back in 02. I got there like 15 minutes before they closed and they let me in for free as long as I left on the hour. I pretty much ran through taking pictures of every display and focusing on the Skins (my team). Lots of good old pics in there, you guys are welcome to check it out.[/quote]
VERY nice! those minor league jerseys are hard to find and expensive, bonus points for sure! lemme guess, now i’m just throwing this out here, going out on a limb, but are you a charlotte fan? lol
anyone want a link
[quote comment=”136277″]anyone want a link[/quote]
Yuck.
[quote comment=”136276″][quote comment=”136274″][quote comment=”136262″][quote comment=”136261″][quote comment=”136256″][quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
You spent money on that ugly third Dallas jersey???[/quote]
lol i do love an ugly jersey, and the mooterus is up there as far as they go. i only paid $25 for it, so it was well worth it.
and you’re right, i do need one of those tuxedo jerseys![/quote]
Well, most certainly an impressive collection! I encourage anyone who wants to make a flikr tribute to their jerseys! Especially… if we can access it by clicking on your profile in the membership card gallery![/quote]
I’m actually working on my Flickr page with all my game worn jerseys right now. You can see some of the collection link but I still have about 10-15 more to photograph.
I also have a gallery of pictures I took at the Football HOF in Canton back in 02. I got there like 15 minutes before they closed and they let me in for free as long as I left on the hour. I pretty much ran through taking pictures of every display and focusing on the Skins (my team). Lots of good old pics in there, you guys are welcome to check it out.[/quote]
VERY nice! those minor league jerseys are hard to find and expensive, bonus points for sure! lemme guess, now i’m just throwing this out here, going out on a limb, but are you a charlotte fan? lol[/quote]
I’m a Charlotte native and season ticket holder for the Checkers. I’ve been collecting gamers for 6 years, season ticket holder for 5. Its an expensive, but incredibly enjoyable hobby.
[quote comment=”136269″]Does anyone know why the New York Titans changed their name to the Jets? They should have kept it Titans if only to not subject us to Chris Berman saying “J-E-T-S Jets”. We know you can spell with your Ivy league degree, pal![/quote]
Leon hHess took the green and the white from his link and liked the way that Jets rhymed with Mets and Nets.
[quote comment=”136278″][quote comment=”136277″]anyone want a link[/quote]
Yuck.[/quote]
too flashy, I know. But what I was getting at was the Hockey Hall of Fame web site apparently leaked the new Canucks logo on a hat. They’re officially days away from unveiling anything. The Hall needs a slap on the wrist.
[quote comment=”136145″][quote comment=”136137″]Paul,
The drop shadowing to bottom and right does not just pertain to lettering. In architecture school, we were taught when rendering to always depict the light source coming from the top left corner of the page because it was more visually appealing to have the shadows drop to the right rather than the other way around.[/quote]
Faaaascinating. That’s precisely the type of info I was hoping this entry would generate. But WHY is it considered more visually appealing to have shadows dropping off to the right? On what basis was that determination made?[/quote]
As a cartographer, I use shading all the time in my maps and graphics. In college we were told that the light source should come from the upper left (generally northwest) because it “looks better that way. It’s more pleasing to the eye, more common, etc.” There may have been more details there but, uhh, I don’t remember. I’m sure it has to do with northern hemisphere, sun setting, etc. Looking online, there are a few sites that give reasons and what not. link for one.
The Mariners wear their BP jersey’s on hot days because their only coolbase jersey is the home variant. Yes, this is sheer stupidity because the number of games in which they need a coolbase jersey at home in the temperate Pacific Northwest is approximately 0. They should have their away jersey be their only coolbase. Be smarter, MLB.
[quote comment=”136200″][quote comment=”136180″]two teams wearing road uniforms? I’d never heard about this before. Anyone else?
——
Yes, Cubs wore road grays at home for some games of both the 06 and 07 WS’s. It was not without controversy, especially in 07 vs. Detroit when it was gray vs. gray.[/quote]
Cubs? In the WS? Vs. Detroit?
I think you mean the Cardinals.[/quote]
No probably 1907
[quote comment=”136181″]Check out these Polish cycling jerseys…
link
Did anyone check to see which way the drop shadow is going on these dudes?!
The Windsor Spitfires of the Ontario Hockey League unveiled their new link in conjunction with their last full season at historic Windsor Arena
[quote comment=”136194″][quote comment=”136190″][quote comment=”136188″]I’ve always felt the orange on the Tigers road jersey was odd too.[/quote]
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Nothing odd about it. They first included orange in 1901. It was dropped for a few decades, then reappeared in the 1920’s, then again in the 40’s and 50’s, went away for awhile and reappeared again in the 70’s.[/quote]
I understand that… but where is it on the homes?[/quote]
—-
Good point – that split began in 1972 with orange only in the road unis. They could put orange stripes on the socks.[/quote]
Call me crazy, but do you think the orange may stem from the mascot?
[quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
that’s pretty impressive. What’s link? I don’t recognize it at all…
[quote comment=”136274″][quote comment=”136262″][quote comment=”136261″][quote comment=”136256″][quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
You spent money on that ugly third Dallas jersey???[/quote]
lol i do love an ugly jersey, and the mooterus is up there as far as they go. i only paid $25 for it, so it was well worth it.
and you’re right, i do need one of those tuxedo jerseys![/quote]
Well, most certainly an impressive collection! I encourage anyone who wants to make a flikr tribute to their jerseys! Especially… if we can access it by clicking on your profile in the membership card gallery![/quote]
I’m actually working on my Flickr page with all my game worn jerseys right now. You can see some of the collection link but I still have about 10-15 more to photograph.
I also have a gallery of pictures I took at the Football HOF in Canton back in 02. I got there like 15 minutes before they closed and they let me in for free as long as I left on the hour. I pretty much ran through taking pictures of every display and focusing on the Skins (my team). Lots of good old pics in there, you guys are welcome to check it out.[/quote]
screw all that other stuff…
YOU GOT BUDDY LEE!
[quote comment=”136281″][quote comment=”136278″][quote comment=”136277″]anyone want a link[/quote]
Yuck.[/quote]
too flashy, I know. But what I was getting at was the Hockey Hall of Fame web site apparently leaked the new Canucks logo on a hat. They’re officially days away from unveiling anything. The Hall needs a slap on the wrist.[/quote]
I did notice that. Why in the hell are there two logos on the front of these hats? Couldn’t they have put the second one on the back or under the bill or something?
[quote comment=”136290″][quote comment=”136181″]Check out these Polish cycling jerseys…
link
Did anyone check to see which way the drop shadow is going on these dudes?![/quote]
LOL!
With minimal observation, I’ll say down to the right.
Seriously, couldn’t they have just photographed them from the waist up?
[quote comment=”136277″]anyone want a link[/quote]
No, but my cat could use a new litter box…
[quote comment=”136254″][quote comment=”136251″][quote comment=”136248″]Regarding types of numbers on jerseys they used in the early sixties the beginning and end of the 3 has a little-comma.. I know it’s not called a comma, but would anybody know what these types of numbers are called?link at the end of the number. You can see it on the 2 in link. I just prefer these types over the basic box or even rounded numbers. I personally use the addition or accent on my three’s/fives and two’s. Any number experts have a specific name for these?[/quote]
I would just call them serifs, but if there’s a typography expert out there, please correct me . . .[/quote]
That’s what I figured it was called, but if you look up serifs it just says details on the ends of some of the strokes that make up letters and symbols. Says nothing about number serifs..[/quote]
In that context, I believe numbers are considered types of symbols.
[quote comment=”136280″][quote comment=”136269″]Does anyone know why the New York Titans changed their name to the Jets? They should have kept it Titans if only to not subject us to Chris Berman saying “J-E-T-S Jets”. We know you can spell with your Ivy league degree, pal![/quote]
Leon hHess took the green and the white from his link and liked the way that Jets rhymed with Mets and Nets.[/quote]
Err wrong. Hess stattions were red and yellow I believe, but when Leon Hess became the majority owner of the Jets he changed the stations to green and white. The Jets had the colors first. I’ll see if I can find some documentation so it doesn’t sound like I’m talking out of my ass.
[quote comment=”136294″][quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
that’s pretty impressive. What’s link? I don’t recognize it at all…[/quote]
The former QMJHL link.
Voisin = neighbor.
here its almost 2 years later and i still dont understand this coolbase jersey thing.
why is only 1 of the teams jerseys made of coolbase material?
shouldnt all of the jerseys be made of it?
[quote comment=”136294″][quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
that’s pretty impressive. What’s link? I don’t recognize it at all…[/quote]
The Laval Titan. That’s the QMJHL team that Mario Lemieux starred on before jumping to the NHL. After dwindling attendance, the team moved after the 1997 season to Bathurst, Nova Scotia and became the Acadie-Bathurst Titan.
[quote comment=”136294″][quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
that’s pretty impressive. What’s link? I don’t recognize it at all…[/quote]
That’s the Laval Titans of the QMJHL. They are now the Acadie-Bathurst Titans.
Sorry, that should be Titan, not plural.
[quote comment=”136300″][quote comment=”136280″][quote comment=”136269″]Does anyone know why the New York Titans changed their name to the Jets? They should have kept it Titans if only to not subject us to Chris Berman saying “J-E-T-S Jets”. We know you can spell with your Ivy league degree, pal![/quote]
Leon hHess took the green and the white from his link and liked the way that Jets rhymed with Mets and Nets.[/quote]
Err wrong. Hess stattions were red and yellow I believe, but when Leon Hess became the majority owner of the Jets he changed the stations to green and white. The Jets had the colors first. I’ll see if I can find some documentation so it doesn’t sound like I’m talking out of my ass.[/quote]
p.s. I know the wikipedia article says otherwise but i believe it is incorrect.
[quote comment=”136301″][quote comment=”136294″][quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
that’s pretty impressive. What’s link? I don’t recognize it at all…[/quote]
The former QMJHL link.
Voisin = neighbor.[/quote]
Crap… good call on Voisins. I got a little ahead of myself. They changed the name after Lemieux left.
Seeing this reminds of the time I came THIS close to purchasing one these….But I didn’t. I have regretted it ever since….Congrats on having the guts to buy one. It’s so ugly, it’s beautiful.
[quote comment=”136301″][quote comment=”136294″][quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
that’s pretty impressive. What’s link? I don’t recognize it at all…[/quote]
The former QMJHL link.
Voisin = neighbor.[/quote]
Rock Voisin?
The link would help, I guess
[quote comment=”136306″][quote comment=”136300″][quote comment=”136280″][quote comment=”136269″]Does anyone know why the New York Titans changed their name to the Jets? They should have kept it Titans if only to not subject us to Chris Berman saying “J-E-T-S Jets”. We know you can spell with your Ivy league degree, pal![/quote]
Leon hHess took the green and the white from his link and liked the way that Jets rhymed with Mets and Nets.[/quote]
Err wrong. Hess stattions were red and yellow I believe, but when Leon Hess became the majority owner of the Jets he changed the stations to green and white. The Jets had the colors first. I’ll see if I can find some documentation so it doesn’t sound like I’m talking out of my ass.[/quote]
p.s. I know the wikipedia article says otherwise but i believe it is incorrect.[/quote]
Chad, I didn’t get it from Wikipedia. It’s just common knowlege if you’ve been a fan for 25+ years. I’m happy to know that it backs me up though.
Third time’s the charm?
[quote comment=”136312″][quote comment=”136306″][quote comment=”136300″][quote comment=”136280″][quote comment=”136269″]Does anyone know why the New York Titans changed their name to the Jets? They should have kept it Titans if only to not subject us to Chris Berman saying “J-E-T-S Jets”. We know you can spell with your Ivy league degree, pal![/quote]
Leon hHess took the green and the white from his link and liked the way that Jets rhymed with Mets and Nets.[/quote]
Err wrong. Hess stattions were red and yellow I believe, but when Leon Hess became the majority owner of the Jets he changed the stations to green and white. The Jets had the colors first. I’ll see if I can find some documentation so it doesn’t sound like I’m talking out of my ass.[/quote]
p.s. I know the wikipedia article says otherwise but i believe it is incorrect.[/quote]
Chad, I didn’t get it from Wikipedia. It’s just common knowlege if you’ve been a fan for 25+ years. I’m happy to know that it backs me up though.[/quote]
I’ve been a fan my whole life too. Glad to know we’re both Mets and Jets fans. But, I’ve had this conversation many times (i could be wrong, but I’m gonna keep looking) and I feel that this is a common misconception.
[quote comment=”136306″][quote comment=”136300″][quote comment=”136280″][quote comment=”136269″]Does anyone know why the New York Titans changed their name to the Jets? They should have kept it Titans if only to not subject us to Chris Berman saying “J-E-T-S Jets”. We know you can spell with your Ivy league degree, pal![/quote]
Leon hHess took the green and the white from his link and liked the way that Jets rhymed with Mets and Nets.[/quote]
Err wrong. Hess stattions were red and yellow I believe, but when Leon Hess became the majority owner of the Jets he changed the stations to green and white. The Jets had the colors first. I’ll see if I can find some documentation so it doesn’t sound like I’m talking out of my ass.[/quote]
p.s. I know the wikipedia article says otherwise but i believe it is incorrect.[/quote]
According to Mark Kriegel’s book “Namath: A Biography”, Sonny Werblin liked green and white because he was born on St. Patrick’s day. (even though he’s Jewish). Thus the color change from the Titans. I can retrieve the book from the Library and provide an exact page if you’d like…
[quote comment=”136314″][quote comment=”136312″][quote comment=”136306″][quote comment=”136300″][quote comment=”136280″][quote comment=”136269″]Does anyone know why the New York Titans changed their name to the Jets? They should have kept it Titans if only to not subject us to Chris Berman saying “J-E-T-S Jets”. We know you can spell with your Ivy league degree, pal![/quote]
Leon hHess took the green and the white from his link and liked the way that Jets rhymed with Mets and Nets.[/quote]
Err wrong. Hess stattions were red and yellow I believe, but when Leon Hess became the majority owner of the Jets he changed the stations to green and white. The Jets had the colors first. I’ll see if I can find some documentation so it doesn’t sound like I’m talking out of my ass.[/quote]
p.s. I know the wikipedia article says otherwise but i believe it is incorrect.[/quote]
Chad, I didn’t get it from Wikipedia. It’s just common knowlege if you’ve been a fan for 25+ years. I’m happy to know that it backs me up though.[/quote]
I’ve been a fan my whole life too. Glad to know we’re both Mets and Jets fans. But, I’ve had this conversation many times (i could be wrong, but I’m gonna keep looking) and I feel that this is a common misconception.[/quote]
Has to be if the Jets were renamed in 1963 and the Nets didn’t exist until 1968
[quote comment=”136307″][quote comment=”136301″][quote comment=”136294″][quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
that’s pretty impressive. What’s link? I don’t recognize it at all…[/quote]
The former QMJHL link.
Voisin = neighbor.[/quote]
Crap… good call on Voisins. I got a little ahead of myself. They changed the name after Lemieux left.[/quote]
Second-guessing yourself sometimes turns out for the best.
“In his final year in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League (QMJHL), Lemieux scored a record 133 goals and added 149 assists for 282 points in 70 games for the Laval Titan.”
[quote comment=”136314″][quote comment=”136312″][quote comment=”136306″][quote comment=”136300″][quote comment=”136280″][quote comment=”136269″]Does anyone know why the New York Titans changed their name to the Jets? They should have kept it Titans if only to not subject us to Chris Berman saying “J-E-T-S Jets”. We know you can spell with your Ivy league degree, pal![/quote]
Leon hHess took the green and the white from his link and liked the way that Jets rhymed with Mets and Nets.[/quote]
Err wrong. Hess stattions were red and yellow I believe, but when Leon Hess became the majority owner of the Jets he changed the stations to green and white. The Jets had the colors first. I’ll see if I can find some documentation so it doesn’t sound like I’m talking out of my ass.[/quote]
p.s. I know the wikipedia article says otherwise but i believe it is incorrect.[/quote]
Chad, I didn’t get it from Wikipedia. It’s just common knowlege if you’ve been a fan for 25+ years. I’m happy to know that it backs me up though.[/quote]
I’ve been a fan my whole life too. Glad to know we’re both Mets and Jets fans. But, I’ve had this conversation many times (i could be wrong, but I’m gonna keep looking) and I feel that this is a common misconception.[/quote]
Hey, if I’m wrong I’d love to be corrected.
But while the rhyming part may or may not be correct, I can’t remember any Hess station having different colors than Green and White.
Excuse the multiple posts, link bought the Titans in 1963 and changed the name to Jets. The colors followed suit (see my post #174 above)
I don’t have any information on the uniform colors for the Jets, but here is information about the name:
April 15, Name Game
On April 15, Werblin, the club’s president and CEO, renamed the team the Jets. The reasons were twofold. At the time, the United States was entering the “Space” or “Jet” age. Commercial airlines were filling the air and soon there would be men walking on the moon. Also the Jets’ new venue, Shea Stadium, would be located in Flushing Meadows, between LaGuardia and Idlewild (later renamed Kennedy) airports. Hence, the name New York Jets.
That is from the Jets official Web site.
so far from my research the Jets are called the Jets becuase at the time the United States was entering the “jet age” and also becuase they were slated to play in Shea Stadium which is located rigt near LaGuardia airport. The first hess trucks sold in 1964 were red yellow green and white and continued to be this way until the mid 80’s when they changed to just green and white.
This doesn’t prove me right or anything, but it would be logical to believe that Leon Hess added green and white to the red and yellow color scheme after he became owner of the Jets.
[quote comment=”136201″]On the NY Rangers website, the new RBK edge jerseys are for sale for a whopping price of 114.99 for a jersey with no name on the back. Strange this is, you could still buy the old style of jersey, but only the white one. Seems very strange to me.[/quote]
Ottawa’s prices are as follows, for comparison
RBK “Premiere” Replica – C$130
RBK authentic – C$300
So the RBK jerseys will be more expensive than the old ones, but not by too much. I think I spent C$250 for an authentic CCM
[quote comment=”136323″]so far from my research the Jets are called the Jets becuase at the time the United States was entering the “jet age” and also becuase they were slated to play in Shea Stadium which is located rigt near LaGuardia airport. The first hess trucks sold in 1964 were red yellow green and white and continued to be this way until the mid 80’s when they changed to just green and white.
This doesn’t prove me right or anything, but it would be logical to believe that Leon Hess added green and white to the red and yellow color scheme after he became owner of the Jets.[/quote]
link
I am still looking for more info on the colors
link
[quote comment=”136317″][quote comment=”136307″][quote comment=”136301″][quote comment=”136294″][quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
that’s pretty impressive. What’s link? I don’t recognize it at all…[/quote]
The former QMJHL link.
Voisin = neighbor.[/quote]
Crap… good call on Voisins. I got a little ahead of myself. They changed the name after Lemieux left.[/quote]
Second-guessing yourself sometimes turns out for the best.
“In his final year in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League (QMJHL), Lemieux scored a record 133 goals and added 149 assists for 282 points in 70 games for the Laval Titan.”[/quote]
you might be right, but i definitely photo referenced it before buying it, link he definitely wore that sweater in the Q
Vaguely apropos of today’s topic, last night I was editing a manuscript from Israel, and although it wasn’t written in Hebrew, obviously, the justification was reversed. If I left-jusified the text, it would justify to the right, and vice-versa.
[quote comment=”136326″]link[/quote]
Nice motion W in the fourth picture. Bucky is going to be pissed!
[quote comment=”136139″][quote comment=”136103″]How interesting … I guess EVERY profession has uniforms in 2007 … with excessive logo creep to boot! Saw an autograph of this guy on a coworker’s wall … couldn’t help but share it here:
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interesting, but i dont see logo creep here at all.
what i see is that enterprise rent-a-car has sponsored the rodeo clown or at least the clowns uniform. they have paid to put their bilboard on his clothes, just like they do for tv or print ads.
i think the term logo creep is starting to get thrown around way too loosely now.
if im not mistaken it was a term derived to mean that a manufacturers “logo” has “crept” all over the uniform and accessories, (ie. logos on shoes, socks, wristbands, braces, under-gear or mock shirts, gloves, et. al.) creating a distraction from the general uniform (like a virus spreading over it until it completely overtakes the uni)
i understand the above description from a manufacturers standpoint.
a swoosh, 3 stripes or vector on a shirt, wrist band, shoe, glove, towel, sock, whatever, is not logo creep, its identifying and branding a piece of apparel for the sake of resale.
now when worn all together, on a college or pro field, i guess i’ll have to say, yes its a bit much.
but there is a significant difference between the above and me wearing a nike logo’ed shirt to a game with my air max 360s
im not even gonna go into the crossword puzzle logo creep reference because i still dont understand what that meant.[/quote]
THANK YOU!! about time someone agreed
Tony Gwynn’s new statue at Petco Park has a drop shadow, that is down and to the right, on his #19 on the jersey he is wearing. The whole statue is beautiful except for that minor detail since the jersey he is wearing never used drop shadow on the numbers.
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you might be right, but i definitely photo referenced it before buying it, link he definitely wore that sweater in the Q[/quote]
That jersey in the HHOF is definitely from the Titan. He destroyed all the scoring records in the QMJHL that season.
[quote comment=”136332″][quote comment=”136326″]link[/quote]
Nice motion W in the fourth picture. Bucky is going to be pissed![/quote]
That, and the baserunner in that photo committed a Vintage Base Ball faux pas by wearing logo-adorned (adidas) cleats.
The 49ers wear drop shadows because in 1995 the league had everyone wear throwback uniforms and the Niners chose the jersey from 1955, which had drop shadows. They were too cheap to buy red helmets to complete the look, but the combo of the red & black jersey and the gold helmet became their new look. They went on a tear, and kept wearing the jersey even though I thought you could only wear the throwbacks twice. The first time they went back to their regular uniforms they got creamed by the Eagles, so they returned to the ’55s and didn’t lose another game all season. Two years later the current uniforms appeared.
The Dodgers wear red numbers because in 1939 no one was hiring professional fashion designers to come up with rational schemes for lowly sports uniforms. Check out “Dressed to the Nines” on the Hall of Fame site – there’s plenty of bizarre quirks in early uniforms: cap logos are replaced by blank caps, the cap monogram and jersey monogram don’t match, and of course the 1938 Dodgers wore Padre-style sand with green trim, after many years of drifting between navy and royal. Clearly no one was masterminding a consistent corporate identity here.
Also, maybe the red numbers were meant to make the uniform more garish for the night games that began at Ebbets the prior year.
Tod H…..It is great to see another TOD with his name spelled right. Good to see that another single D loves uni watch. I’m sure I will see more comments from you.
Tod M.
[quote comment=”136267″][quote comment=”136161″]I thought the 153 on her shoes was to remind her how much she gets paid per game to play in the WNBA.[/quote]
I was gonna guess that its her height in inches.[/quote]
She’s 6-5, so you’re a little off. 153 inches is 13 feet, 1 inch. Just sayin’.
Oops. My fuzzy math fails me again. 153 inches is 12’9″.
Interesting story just moved on AP:
A lineup of team logo baseball caps denounced as tailor-made for gang members was ordered removed from store shelves by its manufacturer Friday after complaints from baseball officials.
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The three styles in question used colors and symbols linked to three gangs: an all-white cap with a blue bandanna, the trademark of the notorious Crips; an all-white cap with a red bandanna worn by the rival Bloods; and a black cap with a gold team logo and an embroidered crown, a symbol favored by the Latin Kings.
[quote comment=”136150″][quote comment=”136129″]Looks like the Leafs were inspired by link from the 2003 Juno awards. Hopefully the Canadiens don’t get link link.[/quote]
While I hope to never see a hockey team outfitted like that, seeing Shania dressed like that makes this hockey fan warm and fuzzy inside.[/quote]
That’s an interesting companion outfit to the NBA logo dresses, as perhaps most famously worn by Mariah Carey.
[quote comment=”136102″]For anyone interested in seeing the New York Yankees gang caps, check out link.[/quote]
After reading that article I was glad to see this show up
link
[quote comment=”136277″]anyone want a link[/quote]
Great… now we have puppet strings on hats! You think Reebok is proud of their piping?
The Bills retros against the titans away uniforms are making for a terrible sea of blue. It’s hard to even tell who is who once the play starts
[quote comment=”136285″][quote comment=”136145″][quote comment=”136137″]Paul,
The drop shadowing to bottom and right does not just pertain to lettering. In architecture school, we were taught when rendering to always depict the light source coming from the top left corner of the page because it was more visually appealing to have the shadows drop to the right rather than the other way around.[/quote]
Faaaascinating. That’s precisely the type of info I was hoping this entry would generate. But WHY is it considered more visually appealing to have shadows dropping off to the right? On what basis was that determination made?[/quote]
As a cartographer, I use shading all the time in my maps and graphics. In college we were told that the light source should come from the upper left (generally northwest) because it “looks better that way. It’s more pleasing to the eye, more common, etc.” There may have been more details there but, uhh, I don’t remember. I’m sure it has to do with northern hemisphere, sun setting, etc. Looking online, there are a few sites that give reasons and what not. link for one.[/quote]
My guess is that before the days of computer design, sketches were originally drawn before a prototype was made. And as anyone that has the seen “the Babe” with John Goodman knows that back in the day being lefty was always frowned upon and people were always taught to do things right handed. That being said, it would be near impossible for a lefty to draw bottom and right and chances are most designers of the time were probably righties. Hope that makes sense.
Interesting note from NHL.com the RBK Primier jerseys are only displayed for teams that have had official uniform unvailings the Sens, Caps, Red Wings etc. for the other teams it is just listed as “image unavailable”, if not every team is planing a press conference why not just show them now
I believe the reason that teams such as the mariners do not have a coolbase away jersey is because they have not created one that is a suitable fit for a replacement. I thought I have read somewhere, probably on here before that there are no Grey coolbase at all because they aren’t the same, or dont look right.
Vamos Mets!
My Spanish sucks; I hope that translates to “Let’s go Mets!”.
Anyhow, it took me a couple innings to notice the “Los” on the Mets jerseys.
Paul, apparently your message to the Mariners got through, but no one passed it on to the Rangers… tonight they are wearing their BP jerseys.
Anyone notice that the Seattle Mariners sometimes wear their BP jerseys during games. That’s so cool!
In today’s post, Paul said, My feeling is that while drop and block shadows often look good (especially on a membership card), they can also add unnecessary clutter to a design. And while I haven’t done a formal tally, my sense of things is that more teams are employing shadows these days than in the past, because they’re so easy to execute digitally. I’m fairly certain teams like the Mets, Dolphins, and 49ers, all of which added drop shadows within the past decade, wouldn’t have done so if it hadn’t been so easy for a designer to call everyone over to his computer and say, “Look, what if we just did this…†I’m not saying there’s no place for shadows, but most of them these days come with the distinct echo of “Because we can.â€Â
I’ll be the conspiracy theorist here. Niners added shadow, as mentioned previously, because it’s part of their uniform heritage. But I think most teams that add shadow now do so because it’s an easy way to incorporate black (or navy blue) into the uniform design when it’s not an official team color. Added black = added merchandising $$$$$$
Tonight’s Mets game marks a momentary departure from their home uniform history (albeit a minor one) with the addition of the definite article “Los”.
The Amazins have always had “Mets” and only “Mets” scripted on their home jerseys since 1962.
And tonight, Shea Hillenbrand is the first player named “Shea” to play at Shea Stadium.
More Mets info than you ever needed to know…
[quote comment=”136362″]Paul, apparently your message to the Mariners got through, but no one passed it on to the Rangers… tonight they are wearing their BP jerseys.[/quote]
WTF? Players aren’t allowed to wear uniform sanctioned caps during batting practice, but it’s okay to wear cheap BP jerseys during actual games?
Heckuva job, Bud!
[quote comment=”136367″][quote comment=”136362″]Paul, apparently your message to the Mariners got through, but no one passed it on to the Rangers… tonight they are wearing their BP jerseys.[/quote]
WTF? Players aren’t allowed to wear uniform sanctioned caps during batting practice, but it’s okay to wear cheap BP jerseys during actual games?
Heckuva job, Bud![/quote]
Well put
You can get that Lemieux Laval jersey here, along with a bunch of other nice jerseys: link
[quote comment=”136120″][quote comment=”136116″]The link wordmarks and numbers go down and to the left. Is that technically a block shadow?[/quote]
No, that’s a bevel. And the Nats’ bevel indicates a light source coming from the left — which is the same thing indicated by a drop shadow going to the right. In other words, just another manifestation of the same phenomenon.[/quote]
The light source is coming from the left, yes, but from the bottom left. A top-left lightsource would look like link on the Nats’ numbers.
Perhaps my last shot at Bud Selig was over the line. I don’t know what factor the commissioner plays with regards to uniforms.
Does anyone want a USFL Oakland Invaders windbraker jacket thing?: link
A discussion on drop shadowed numbers? Lord I love this place. Drop shadowed numbers are one of my favorite uniform styles of all time.
One thing that made me just go crazy is I swear to the Heavens that the 1991 North Stars jersey is the single most poorly customized, most often screwed up jersey in the history of jersey collecting. FROM DAY ONE when CCM first came out with their Vintage Line the North Stars jerseys have been an absolute train wreck.
CCM started it all by putting the damn star on the front of the jersey backwards! The “N” leans right and the stupid star leans to the left! Then they compounded it by making a half a billion MODANO jerseys with the so called “drop shadow” going UP and to the LEFT, when it should go down to the right. Basically they put the white layer in the lower right instead of the upper left of the yellow layer. Think of it as a “6” put on upside down. Many places don’t even try to do a drop shadowed number, which is also common and incorrect. Then there’s your jersey with Dallas Stars lettering on a North Stars jersey, which I’ve seen before. How about a black drop shadow layer outlined in yellow? The number of ways to screw one of these up is staggering and yet sadly impressive at the same time.
Case in point, do a search for “Modano North Stars Jersey” on ebay right now.
I’ll bet you NINE out of NINE are wrong and in FOUR different ways as well.
There just aren’t enough drop shadowed teams out there. I wouldn’t want everyone to go that route, but there’s certain room for more.
[quote comment=”136377″]A discussion on drop shadowed numbers? Lord I love this place. Drop shadowed numbers are one of my favorite uniform styles of all time.
One thing that made me just go crazy is I swear to the Heavens that the 1991 North Stars jersey is the single most poorly customized, most often screwed up jersey in the history of jersey collecting. FROM DAY ONE when CCM first came out with their Vintage Line the North Stars jerseys have been an absolute train wreck.
CCM started it all by putting the damn star on the front of the jersey backwards! The “N” leans right and the stupid star leans to the left! Then they compounded it by making a half a billion MODANO jerseys with the so called “drop shadow” going UP and to the LEFT, when it should go down to the right. Basically they put the white layer in the lower right instead of the upper left of the yellow layer. Think of it as a “6” put on upside down. Many places don’t even try to do a drop shadowed number, which is also common and incorrect. Then there’s your jersey with Dallas Stars lettering on a North Stars jersey, which I’ve seen before. How about a black drop shadow layer outlined in yellow? The number of ways to screw one of these up is staggering and yet sadly impressive at the same time.
Case in point, do a search for “Modano North Stars Jersey” on ebay right now.
I’ll bet you NINE out of NINE are wrong and in FOUR different ways as well.
There just aren’t enough drop shadowed teams out there. I wouldn’t want everyone to go that route, but there’s certain room for more.[/quote]
i thought those were upside down! never bothered to do my research on it though. quite aggrivating
[quote comment=”136377″]A discussion on drop shadowed numbers? Lord I love this place. Drop shadowed numbers are one of my favorite uniform styles of all time.
One thing that made me just go crazy is I swear to the Heavens that the 1991 North Stars jersey is the single most poorly customized, most often screwed up jersey in the history of jersey collecting. FROM DAY ONE when CCM first came out with their Vintage Line the North Stars jerseys have been an absolute train wreck.
CCM started it all by putting the damn star on the front of the jersey backwards! The “N” leans right and the stupid star leans to the left! Then they compounded it by making a half a billion MODANO jerseys with the so called “drop shadow” going UP and to the LEFT, when it should go down to the right. Basically they put the white layer in the lower right instead of the upper left of the yellow layer. Think of it as a “6” put on upside down. Many places don’t even try to do a drop shadowed number, which is also common and incorrect. Then there’s your jersey with Dallas Stars lettering on a North Stars jersey, which I’ve seen before. How about a black drop shadow layer outlined in yellow? The number of ways to screw one of these up is staggering and yet sadly impressive at the same time.
Case in point, do a search for “Modano North Stars Jersey” on ebay right now.
I’ll bet you NINE out of NINE are wrong and in FOUR different ways as well.
There just aren’t enough drop shadowed teams out there. I wouldn’t want everyone to go that route, but there’s certain room for more.[/quote]
link isn’t a Modano jersey, but I doubt it’s wrong. Hehe.
[quote comment=”136367″][quote comment=”136362″]Paul, apparently your message to the Mariners got through, but no one passed it on to the Rangers… tonight they are wearing their BP jerseys.[/quote]
WTF? Players aren’t allowed to wear uniform sanctioned caps during batting practice, but it’s okay to wear cheap BP jerseys during actual games?
Heckuva job, Bud![/quote]
Actually, I don’t think the link wore the link. These are just two photos though. I’m not sure what everybody else did.
[quote comment=”136362″]Paul, apparently your message to the Mariners got through, but no one passed it on to the Rangers… tonight they are wearing their BP jerseys.[/quote]
When I flipped over to the Rangers game tonight and spotted those jerseys, I damn near puked. It doesn’t help that their BP jerseys are even uglier than most. I am ashamed.
Here is number 78 of Bomani Jones’s 100 Reasons to love College Football on ESPN… coming from Oregon and being an OSU fan (though in the uniform department, the Beavers have link, I thought it very appropriate.
78.) Making jokes about Oregon’s uniforms, sent straight from the year 3000. However, not even Andre 3000 would want to wear them.
Excuse Me if I Have Missed This Posting But…
Has anyone else noticed that Chicago Bears Quarterback Rex Grossman has been buckling both lower chin straps this year? This appears to be the first time in a number of years. Considering all of his professional and college photos show him with with only one lower chin strap buckled as well. Any idea why he decided to begin to buckle both this year? Change of luck perhaps…
Secondly, Devin Hester has switched from a Riddell helmet to a Schutt/AHIR style helmet. Most likely due to the fact that, most if not all University of Maimi football players where AHIR/Scutt helmets. ANy confirmation on that?
Most greatful for a answer!!!
[quote comment=”136361″]Vamos Mets!
My Spanish sucks; I hope that translates to “Let’s go Mets!”.
Anyhow, it took me a couple innings to notice the “Los” on the Mets jerseys.[/quote]
That actually translates to go mets, go meaning like go somewhere
[quote comment=”136388″]Excuse Me if I Have Missed This Posting But…
Has anyone else noticed that Chicago Bears Quarterback Rex Grossman has been buckling both lower chin straps this year? This appears to be the first time in a number of years. Considering all of his professional and college photos show him with with only one lower chin strap buckled as well. Any idea why he decided to begin to buckle both this year? Change of luck perhaps…
Secondly, Devin Hester has switched from a Riddell helmet to a Schutt/AHIR style helmet. Most likely due to the fact that, most if not all University of Maimi football players where AHIR/Scutt helmets. ANy confirmation on that?
Most greatful for a answer!!![/quote]
i heard somewhere, and i can’t back this up with a link, that all players were required to snap on their chinstraps completely, something about concussions. oddly enough, i think we’ve seen more helmets fly off this preseason than ever before
Apparently, according to a particularly astute member of the almighty link, Justin Germano is the only Padre missing the link patch on his left sleeve.
[quote comment=”136245″][quote comment=”136237″][quote comment=”136203″]Great uni-related site that takes photos of people with obscure jerseys link[/quote]
if he were in erie, pa (where i go to school) i’d be on that website 10 times or so.
for those who doubt me: link which i wear daily[/quote]
link is probably my favorite hockey sweater ever.[/quote]
I prefer link
Why are these link. Doesn’t Reebok have a say in this kinda stuff. link
[quote comment=”136387″]Here is number 78 of Bomani Jones’s 100 Reasons to love College Football on ESPN… coming from Oregon and being an OSU fan (though in the uniform department, the Beavers have link, I thought it very appropriate.
78.) Making jokes about Oregon’s uniforms, sent straight from the year 3000. However, not even Andre 3000 would want to wear them.[/quote]
To the credit of Oregon, they introduced FOUR jerseys, four pants (green, white, yellow and black) and only THREE helmets, out of respect to the black helmets of OSU*
* – OSU is Oregon State. Ohio State would be TOSU, since they insist being called The Ohio State University. We’d also accept aOSU for “An Ohio State University, as Kent State, Wright State, Cleveland State, Youngstown State, Bowling Green State, Cincinnati State, Kent State-Ashtabula, and others, are all State Universities in Ohio
I was looking at this site and came across this link
[quote comment=”136366″]The Amazins have always had “Mets” and only “Mets” scripted on their home jerseys since 1962.[/quote]
I seem to recall them wearing Negro League uniforms from the New York Cubans in a game at home at least once a few years ago.
The Rangers wore their bp jerseys last night joining the Mariners who did it twice against Chicago and at Texas yesterday
[quote comment=”136423″][quote comment=”136366″]The Amazins have always had “Mets” and only “Mets” scripted on their home jerseys since 1962.[/quote]
I seem to recall them wearing Negro League uniforms from the New York Cubans in a game at home at least once a few years ago.[/quote]
Nice catch. I forgot that.
[quote comment=”136426″]The Rangers wore their bp jerseys last night joining the Mariners who did it twice against Chicago and at Texas yesterday[/quote]
The Mariners have done it at least three times, because they have worn them against Texas twice. So I guess the Rangers just returned the favor.
[quote comment=”136322″]I don’t have any information on the uniform colors for the Jets, but here is information about the name:
April 15, Name Game
On April 15, Werblin, the club’s president and CEO, renamed the team the Jets. The reasons were twofold. At the time, the United States was entering the “Space” or “Jet” age. Commercial airlines were filling the air and soon there would be men walking on the moon. Also the Jets’ new venue, Shea Stadium, would be located in Flushing Meadows, between LaGuardia and Idlewild (later renamed Kennedy) airports. Hence, the name New York Jets.
That is from the Jets official Web site.[/quote]
Read in other sources [“Gang Green” by Gerry Eskenazi of the NYT] that David “Sonny” Werblin was born on March 17, 1907 – St. Patrick’s Day – and always liked the kelly green color. And applied same to the Jets when they came under his control in 1963. FYI Leon Hess was a minority owner then with two others and Werblin.
[quote comment=”136345″]Interesting story just moved on AP:
A lineup of team logo baseball caps denounced as tailor-made for gang members was ordered removed from store shelves by its manufacturer Friday after complaints from baseball officials.
…
The three styles in question used colors and symbols linked to three gangs: an all-white cap with a blue bandanna, the trademark of the notorious Crips; an all-white cap with a red bandanna worn by the rival Bloods; and a black cap with a gold team logo and an embroidered crown, a symbol favored by the Latin Kings.[/quote]
I saw that story, those things are insane. I can’t believe they made it to retail. There’s already reports of people(kids, natch) getting jumped for wearing the wrong hat in the wrong neighborhood.
[quote comment=”136078″]the hat that vince found isnt new–its the sideline cap from 2005 link[/quote]
yeah, but it looks more red than brown and the dog logo is downright hideous.
Can’t believe that nobody mentioned the most famous example of a block shadow, which flows down and to the right. Of course, I’m speaking of the Uni Watch logo.
Is anyone familiar with the football jersey worn by LSU sometime in the mid-1950s? (Yeah, I know…long ago)
My recollection is that they were identified by position and also by number…..for example a guard might be G5 or G4 or G8 while a tasckle would be T4.
Ring a bell with anyone?